Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread Eric Gwin

He didn't. He said that the platform doesn't support java5:

Since Platform 3.8 it has certainly been impossible to run the complete platform 
using Java 5 due to Jetty dependency on Java 6 (and possibly other bundles).


On 03/09/2013 12:34 PM, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

I must be very dense. Where does it say The platform requires Java 6.

Regards

Ed Willink

On 03/09/2013 17:19, John Arthorne wrote:

I can't think of any way to be clearer than I already have. The platform 
requires Java 6, and it has required Java 6 for several years. Next time I do a 
plan update I will try to make that even clearer.

John




From: Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk
To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org,
Date: 09/03/2013 10:47 AM
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Hi

I'm sorry John but you are dodging the issue. There is far too much this is 
what we do, and very little of this is what we require.

/Most of the Eclipse SDK is pure Java code and has no direct dependence on 
the underlying operating system. The chief dependence is therefore on the Java Platform 
itself. Portions are targeted to specific classes of operating environments, requiring 
their source code to only reference facilities available in particular class libraries 
(e.g. J2ME Foundation 1.1, J2SE 1.4, Java 5, etc)./

/In general, the 4.3 release of the Eclipse Project is developed on a mix of 
Java SE 6 and Java SE 7 VMs. As such, the Eclipse SDK as a whole is targeted at 
all modern, desktop Java VMs. Most functionality is available for Java SE 6 
level development everywhere, and extended development capabilities are made 
available on the VMs that support them./

Yes there have been a few bundles that needed 1.6 for some time, but it seems 
like the critical parts of the platform have been 1.5. The list on 
_http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=eclipse#appendix_
still shows very little that needs 1.6, so I see no statement that the platform 
needs 1.6.

I delivered my Indigo, Juno and Kepler releases as Java 5 minimum requirement. 
Clearly the platform and many projects were highly Java 5 tolerant.

There should perhaps be a separate overall statement at the top that 1.6 is the 
minimum requirement (although some bundles may be more tolerant).

Or org.eclipse.core.* needs to change to 1.6

   Regards

   Ed Willink


On 03/09/2013 14:57, John Arthorne wrote:
I seem to have a knack for definitive statements lately so I'll take a try at 
this. The last Eclipse Platform release to officially support Java 5 was 
3.6/Helios. We have not run our tests against Java 5 for several years and can 
make no claim that it works. Since Platform 3.8 it has certainly been 
impossible to run the complete platform using Java 5 due to Jetty dependency on 
Java 6 (and possibly other bundles). Oracle Java end of life was in 2009 (in 
fact Oracle Java 6 is also past end of life now). Some individual bundles may 
still support older runtimes but at this point they are the exception rather 
than the norm. The list of bundle EE levels is updated with each plan revision, 
but as long as they are within the scope of the current list of reference 
platforms they are not generally announced individually.

John



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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] bugzilla down?

2013-07-04 Thread Eric Gwin

Denis,

It may be unrelated, but slow response times appear to be occurring again. Am 
attempting to ssh to build.eclipse.org, and login response is slow and terminal 
periodically freezes. sometimes for up to a minute.

Eric

On 03/07/2013 1:16 PM, Denis Roy wrote:

Our ISP has located the problem (a DDoS) and our site seems to be happy once 
again.

Denis



On 07/03/2013 12:07 PM, Roland Grunberg wrote:

I am experiencing very slow response times / hangs accessing

http://bugs.eclipse.org/

Is it me or is bugzilla down?

Jan

I seem to be experiencing the same.



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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] RC3 and Final Daze ...

2013-06-06 Thread Eric Gwin
Wayne, 

Sorry about the delay. It is coming from EclipseLink. After investigating, it 
seems the jar used to be just a compile dependency, so didn't contain the 
needful because it was never shipped. That changed recently, and updating to 
the Orbit version fell through the cracks. I'm going to make certain we have no 
issue running against 1.6.0, and slip that version from Orbit into our release 
p2 repo. If that fails I'm going to have to update our jar with appropriate 
files, and again regen our release p2 repo.

I hope to have this fixed in the next day or so.

Eric

On 2013-06-06, at 10:58 AM, Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org wrote:

 Thanks for looking. 
 
 I looked a little harder and--based on file dates--it's probably coming from 
 EclipseLink.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 06/06/2013 04:31 AM, sven.rottst...@sungard.com wrote:
 I’ve validated the P2 repository of Stardust at 
 /home/data/httpd/download.eclipse.org/milestones/kepler/1.0.0-RC3-SNAPSHOT/plugins
  which was picked up by the simrel aggregator build but we’ve no 
 javax.resource_1.5.0.v200906010428.jar included.
  
 Should I also check the Require-Bundle section of the MANIFEST.MF files?
  
 Von: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 
 [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] Im Auftrag von Wayne 
 Beaton
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2013 21:36
 An: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
 Betreff: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] RC3 and Final Daze ...
  
 I've broken David's missing abouts file into project responsibilities. In 
 some cases, a Kepler project is consuming a non-Kepler project's code. 
 Please connect with the source project's team to address the issue. Note 
 that the full list of files is in the link provided by David
 
 http://build.eclipse.org/simrel/kepler/reporeports/reports/layoutCheck.txt
 
 Please address this ASAP.
 
 David, can you please plan to re-run the script on Friday?
 
 EclipseLink or Stardust?
 Missing about.html in file: javax.resource_1.5.0.v200906010428.jar
 
 ECF
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.ecf.*
 
 GMF Runtime
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.gmf.runtime.*
 
 Gyrex
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.gyrex.*
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.gemini.jpa_1.1.0.RELEASE.jar
 
 Web Tools
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.jpt.doc.user_3.2.0.v201305240436.jar
 
 Koneki
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.koneki.*
 Missing about.html in file: com.cforcoding.jmd_0.8.1.201305031130.jar
 
 Mylyn
 Missing about.html in file: 
 org.eclipse.mylyn.reviews.edit.source_2.0.0.I20130529-1332.jar
 
 Riena
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.riena.*
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.grid_1.0.0.HEAD.jar
 
 TCF
 Missing about.html in file: 
 org.eclipse.tcf.te.tcf.launch.cdt_1.1.0.201305210728.jar
 
 Xtext
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.xtend.*
 Missing about.html in file: org.eclipse.xtext.*
 
 m2e-wpt
 Missing about.html in file: 
 org.sonatype.m2e.mavenarchiver_0.15.0.201207090125-signed-201209140800.jar
 
 BIRT
 Missing about.html in file: 
 uk.co.spudsoft.birt.emitters.excel.source_4.3.0.v201306041519.jar
 Missing about.html in file: 
 uk.co.spudsoft.birt.emitters.excel_4.3.0.v201306041519.jar
 
 Thanks,
 
 Wayne
 
 On 06/05/2013 02:58 PM, David M Williams wrote:
 Here we are, nearly at the end of RC3 (remember, staging repo builds close 
 at 5 PM Eastern, unless someone notifies us here they need an extra hour or 
 two). 
   
 I am a little disappointed there is still so much work for some projects to 
 do to meet minimum requirements to be released, 
  http://build.eclipse.org/simrel/kepler/reporeports/reports/layoutCheck.txt 
  
 http://build.eclipse.org/simrel/kepler/reporeports/reports/verifydiroutput/unsigned.txt
  
 But, I guess every year there are some projects that like to save it to the 
 very end. 
 
 The main purpose of this note is to educate everyone on some of the 
 mechanics over the next few weeks  what we call the Final daze. 
 For those of you that have been through it before ... it's all the same ... 
 just dates have changed ... but it wouldn't hurt for Project Leads and 
 release engineers to re-read.  For those of you new to Simultaneous Release, 
 I hope you find it a helpful reference on how to make things go smoother, in 
 a more coordinated way. 
 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/Kepler/Final_Daze 
 
 After reading it, and the documents it links to, please ask here on 
 cross-project list if there are questions, issues, or suggestions. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Permission issues on build.eclipse.org

2013-04-24 Thread Eric Gwin

Is this resolved? all our builds are failing.

Eric

On 24/04/2013 5:34 AM, Eike Stepper wrote:

Hi Laurent,

I think the drive is full: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=406391

Cheers
/Eike


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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Build.eclipse.org Down

2013-02-22 Thread Eric Gwin

Thanks very much.  I started a build, and it failed:

/opt/users/hudsonbuild/workspace/eclipselink-nightly-master/autobuild.xml:430: 
java.io.FileNotFoundException: 
/shared/rt/eclipselink/handoff-file-build-master-v20130222-547208e.dat 
(Permission denied)


Looks like Hudson may need some permissions updates.

-Eric

On 22/02/2013 8:55 AM, Denis Roy wrote:

Restore is complete, and Matt is kicking Hudson as I type this.

Thanks,

Denis

On 02/22/2013 08:54 AM, Eric Gwin wrote:

Any news? A cursory look at build.eclipse.org shows what appears to be a 
completed restore (/shared), but I still cannot get to Hudson.

Thanks much.

Eric

On 21/02/2013 4:29 PM, Denis Roy wrote:

/shared is in the process of being restored.

Unfortunately, it is absolutely huge, so it is taking a while

224GB done out of 894GB, restoring at about 40 MB/sec.

Denis


On 02/21/2013 04:26 PM, Alexander Nyßen wrote:

Denis,

when trying to run my promotion script (in order to prepare the GEF 3.8.2 
release), I run into the problem that file permissions do not seem to be 
properly restored on /shared, i.e. I am for instance not allowed to access 
/shared/jobs/gef-maintenance.

Cheers
Alexander

Am 21.02.2013 um 22:21 schrieb Alexander Nyßen alexander.nys...@itemis.de 
mailto:alexander.nys...@itemis.de:


I still can't access hudson.eclipse.org http://hudson.eclipse.org/...

Cheers
Alexander

Am 21.02.2013 um 20:17 schrieb Denis Roy denis@eclipse.org 
mailto:denis@eclipse.org:


build.eclipse.org http://build.eclipse.org/ is back online, and /shared is 
being restored.

Apologies for the long delay.

Denis


On 02/21/2013 01:50 PM, Dennis Hübner wrote:


Am 21.02.2013 um 17:45 schrieb Denis Roy:


FWIW, the failed hard drive in /shared is an almost 9-year-old IBM piece that 
has been taking a beating 24/7. Quality iron right there, folks.


Sounds like binford 3000 hard drive. hr hr hr hr.
:)


Regards,
Dennis Hübner

Xtext Commiter / Build Engineer






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[cross-project-issues-dev] Corrupt Simrel repo???

2013-01-18 Thread Eric Gwin

David,

For a while now I've been having trouble switching my simrel branch. I thought 
it was just my system, but tried from another system recently. Any attempt to 
switch to the Juno_maintenance branch is giving me:

error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by 
checkout:
 soa-bpel.b3aggrcon
Please commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches.

This is from a freshly cloned repo.

I don't know if the issue is mine (can't see how), or a corrupt git repo, or 
something to do with the soa-bpel file.

-Eric

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corrupt Simrel repo???

2013-01-18 Thread Eric Gwin

Ok. got past it again by unstaging the file. and was able to checkout the 
Juno branch, but it should still probably be looked into.

-Eric

On 18/01/2013 2:14 PM, Eric Gwin wrote:

David,

For a while now I've been having trouble switching my simrel branch. I thought 
it was just my system, but tried from another system recently. Any attempt to 
switch to the Juno_maintenance branch is giving me:

error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by 
checkout:
 soa-bpel.b3aggrcon
Please commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches.

This is from a freshly cloned repo.

I don't know if the issue is mine (can't see how), or a corrupt git repo, or 
something to do with the soa-bpel file.

-Eric

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corrupt Simrel repo???

2013-01-18 Thread Eric Gwin
Hi,

I understand that the message is usually a standard Git protection to keep me 
from inadvertently overwriting edited files. However, my point is I haven't 
edited the file. Ever. It comes edited when the repo is cloned. Therefore, I 
surmise that the file is, in fact, corrupt in the repo, and everyone using that 
repo is having to deal with the consequences.

It would be nice if it were fixed.

Eric

On 2013-01-18, at 4:54 PM, Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk wrote:

 Hi
 
 This is standard GIT protection for edited files.
 
 As the message says you must either preserve of lose the changed files.
 
 To lose it/them just replace all files shown in the Staging View by HEAD. 
 Then you're good to go.
 
Regards
 
Ed Willink
 
 On 18/01/2013 21:45, Benjamin Cabé wrote:
 FWIW I have the very same issue, so sth is probably wrong in the git repo 
 itself indeed...
 
 Benjamin
 
 Eric Gwineric.g...@oracle.com  a écrit :
 
 
 Ok. got past it again by unstaging the file. and was able to checkout the 
 Juno branch, but it should still probably be looked into.
 
 -Eric
 
 On 18/01/2013 2:14 PM, Eric Gwin wrote:
 David,
 
 For a while now I've been having trouble switching my simrel branch. I 
 thought it was just my system, but tried from another system recently. Any 
 attempt to switch to the Juno_maintenance branch is giving me:
 
 error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by 
 checkout:
  soa-bpel.b3aggrcon
 Please commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches.
 
 This is from a freshly cloned repo.
 
 I don't know if the issue is mine (can't see how), or a corrupt git repo, 
 or something to do with the soa-bpel file.
 
 -Eric
 
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corrupt Simrel repo???

2013-01-18 Thread Eric Gwin
David,

Perhaps EGit helps out so you didn't see the issue. I typically work directly 
from the Git command-line or use GUI tools, like TortoiseGit, or SourceTree. 
All three reported the issue. None of the other Git repos I use have ever 
gotten into that state. At least one of them is fairly active and receives 
regular cross-platform commits. The two platforms I'm using that had the issue 
were Windows and Mac OSx. Although I do have a linux box available I didn't 
check it.

Thanks for looking into it. I wasn't intending to sound snarky. I'd originally 
believed it to be a windows issue - not playing well with Git. However, when 
the Mac command-line tools also reported the same results I became a bit more 
worried. Though not finding any other reports of the issue was also odd. I just 
thought I bring it to folks attention, and see if there was something obvious I 
was missing.

I'll clone again in the morning and see if I still see the issue.

Thanks again.

Eric

On 2013-01-18, at 9:16 PM, David M Williams david_willi...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Do people who always have to deal with the consequences use Windows? Linux? 
 Mac? 
 Do they use EGit or command line? 
 
 I ask, since I do not see the problem you describe, using Linux and EGit. 
 
 But, I did look closely at the file, and see that it had mixed line endings 
 (some windows CRLF and some linux LF). 
 
 This, in turn, makes me wonder if participants have read 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#Configuring_the_repo
  
 and 
 http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simrel/Contributing_to_Simrel_Aggregation_Build#Configuring_the_workspace_content_types
  
 
 In short, use autocrlf=false and define your content types and/or associate 
 the file types with text editors. 
   
 autocrlf=false should prevent a change from occurring on checkout, and 
 having correct content types defined make it easy to fix using Convert Line 
 Delimiters To ... . If you're the CLI only type, you'd have to use 
 dos2unix to fix. 
 
 I have corrected the delimiters (so it is now no longer a test case) ... 
 but, having the repo configured correctly will help avoid it in future and 
 make it possible for you, participants, to fix files in the future, if it 
 happens again. 
 
 Maybe we should add a reminder test case file, with deliberate mixed line 
 endings that'd say if you see this file as changed, you need to set 
 autocrlf=false? :)   At least, I'm assuming that was (one of) the problems 
 ... like I said, I've not actually seen the issue. 
 
 HTH 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:Eric Gwin eric.g...@oracle.com 
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 Date:01/18/2013 07:09 PM 
 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Corrupt Simrel repo??? 
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 Hi,
 
 I understand that the message is usually a standard Git protection to keep me 
 from inadvertently overwriting edited files. However, my point is I haven't 
 edited the file. Ever. It comes edited when the repo is cloned. Therefore, 
 I surmise that the file is, in fact, corrupt in the repo, and everyone using 
 that repo is having to deal with the consequences.
 
 It would be nice if it were fixed.
 
 Eric
 
 On 2013-01-18, at 4:54 PM, Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  This is standard GIT protection for edited files.
  
  As the message says you must either preserve of lose the changed files.
  
  To lose it/them just replace all files shown in the Staging View by HEAD. 
  Then you're good to go.
  
 Regards
  
 Ed Willink
  
  On 18/01/2013 21:45, Benjamin Cabé wrote:
  FWIW I have the very same issue, so sth is probably wrong in the git repo 
  itself indeed...
  
  Benjamin
  
  Eric Gwineric.g...@oracle.com  a écrit :
  
  
  Ok. got past it again by unstaging the file. and was able to checkout 
  the Juno branch, but it should still probably be looked into.
  
  -Eric
  
  On 18/01/2013 2:14 PM, Eric Gwin wrote:
  David,
  
  For a while now I've been having trouble switching my simrel branch. I 
  thought it was just my system, but tried from another system recently. 
  Any attempt to switch to the Juno_maintenance branch is giving me:
  
  error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by 
  checkout:
   soa-bpel.b3aggrcon
  Please commit your changes or stash them before you can switch branches.
  
  This is from a freshly cloned repo.
  
  I don't know if the issue is mine (can't see how), or a corrupt git repo, 
  or something to do with the soa-bpel file.
  
  -Eric
  
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for Kepler M4 +3

2012-12-20 Thread Eric Gwin

David,

I was certain that I'd already updated EclipseLink, but that was not the case. 
I double checked this morning on a whim due to this thread, and discovered the 
issue. You are using our M5, but our build was still set to M4. That would 
leave two sets of jars in the aggregation. I've just submitted the new build 
file.

I apologize for the mix-up.

-Eric
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for Kepler M4 +3

2012-12-20 Thread Eric Gwin

David,

No. EclipseLink's M4 was 2.5.0.v20121016-ab08992, it is what was included in 
the aggregation files. However, Dali is including EclipseLink directly, and 
they are using M5 (2.5.0.v20121120-ec51fcc). So currently both versions are in 
the aggregation.

When I released our M5 I thought I had updated the aggregation files to reflect 
the new Milestone. However somehow it never did occur. I probably forgot to 
push my local change, and later issues caused me to re-clone so the change was 
lost.

In any case, the only issue I'm aware of is the multiple versions of most of 
our bundles. I'm unaware of any other repercussion. I just thought that if the 
aggregation was going to be redone, than syncing things up would be in 
everyone's best interest. Your call however.

-Eric

On 20/12/2012 12:24 PM, David M Williams wrote:

I'm a bit confused, but in any case would need more justification to do a rebuild, this 
late. What impact to users is there? Can they get your correct M4 from your 
own repo? Is there a work around? Does it effect EPP packages?

When I look for Eclipse link in .../releases/staging, I do see the same thing 
as in .../releases/kepler;
EclipseLink Target Components2.5.0.v20121016-ab08992

So, I think you are saying that's your M3 level? But your note, and your commit to get 
mention M5: update Kepler contrib to EclipseLink M5.

We are still on M4, if that's a point of confusion. But in any case, can you make an 
argument why this would be blocking.

FYI, we've not strict on dates just for sake of being strict (though, that is 
a good reason :) ... but the process of doing a rebuild is itself risky ... others might 
have changed something, intentional or not ... so introduces uncertainty and a lot of 
re-work for many.

So, if your users can get what they need from your project's repo, I'd prefer 
to go that route.

Thanks,




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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for Kepler M4 +3
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David,

I was certain that I'd already updated EclipseLink, but that was not the case. 
I double checked this morning on a whim due to this thread, and discovered the 
issue. You are using our M5, but our build was still set to M4. That would 
leave two sets of jars in the aggregation. I've just submitted the new build 
file.

I apologize for the mix-up.

-Eric
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Reminder Kepler M3 deadlines are next week

2012-11-12 Thread Eric Gwin

All,

EclipseLink just pushed its M3 contrib (EclipseLink 2.5.0 M4).

-Eric

On 08/11/2012 7:57 PM, David M Williams wrote:

Still several previous contributions that have not been re-enabled 

emf-query2.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
gyrex.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
jwt.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
mylyn-docs-intent.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
soa-bpel.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
soa-sca.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build


And a number of additional ones that contain disabled repos for features ... 
some of which may be waiting on the above contributions?

amp.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
dltk.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build (2 matches)
egit.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
emf-emf.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
mylyn.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build (2 matches)
tcf.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build (2 matches)
tm.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build
webtools.b3aggrcon - org.eclipse.simrel.build


Let me know if I can help.

And I'll give an early reminder that the next cycle (M4) will be a little shorter for 
some (most) projects since we shift to the one week window then,

From
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Kepler/Simultaneous_Release_Plan#Schedule

   Elapsed Weeks
   End Date  Span from +0 for RC0   for EPP 
avail
M1  Friday, August 24, 2012   08/10 to 08/24  6 8   
(from previous release GA)
M2  Friday, October 0509/21 to 10/05  6 6   
(from M1)
M3  Friday, November 16   11/02 to 11/16  6 6   
(from M2)
M4  Friday, December 21   12/14 to 12/21  6 5   
(from M3) (shift from 2 week window to 1 week window)


Thanks!


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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler initial daze

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Gwin

David,

I've updated EclipseLink's aggregation build file to our release repo (from the 
last milestone - they are identical repos, but in different locations).

-Eric

Comments on your points are inline:

On 31/07/2012 8:44 PM, David M Williams wrote:

Here's an outline of what is quickly coming up (I propose).

First, transition to Git. [1] I have been exploring and experimenting with moving the aggregation 
files and build to Git and am feeling confident enough to say we'll do it in about a week. So, at 
some point, let's say Friday, 8/3, will be the official cut off time for CVS changes. 
After that, I suspect there will be a little down time while I actually do the move, 
and get things working again before it'd make sense to make official changes to your Git files. So, 
anything not building by Friday will just be disabled.

1) Awesome. I'm looking forward to Git. As mentioned EclipseLink should be 
good-to-go

Second, change in aggregation build project name. [1] As we rethink this stuff, as we move to Git, and a 
new release, it makes sense to change the name of the projects to a persistent name, that won't change from release to 
release, and instead we'll just make persistent branches of those projects. The name currently proposed for new project 
will be org.eclipse.simrel.builds which will initially be a copy of 
org.eclipse.juno.builds (done after Friday 8/3).

2) Makes sense, I have no qualms about the name of the project. I assume the 
git repo
would actually be called org.eclipse.simrel.builds.git right?

Third, right after we migrate to Git, and get the build running again with those Git 
repos, we will branch master of org.eclipse.simrel.builds to 
Juno_maintenance. From that point on, master will be for Kepler and Juno_maintenance for 
Juno SR1.  I expect this all to happen before Kepler M1 +0 which is 8/10 [2]  (And Juno 
SR1 aggregation starts shortly after that. [3] )

3) Ok

Fourth, we need the maintenance branch to be able to build at any time ... so, 
everyone needs to get and keep that up to date, if anything breaks from what 
ever your final release was (which, should be unlikely). But ...

4) Again, okay. But I think we need to talk due to WTP's pickup of EclipseLink 
(soon), I'm not certain how it is decided what to include, and duplicates can 
easily ensue if we get out-of-sync.

Fifth, due to some discussions in some bug somewhere [4], it was decided that 
as we start a new release, ALL projects will start off disabled in the 
aggregation build. The project team will need to re-enable when they are ready 
and committed to Kepler, which should be for M1 for those participating in 
Juno. That would be by 8/22 at the latest.  Anyone in Juno, but not in Kepler 
M1 will be assumed to not be participating in Kepler or having some troubles. 
Projects new to Kepler (still) have until M4 (at the latest) to join the train 
(but, can join earlier, if they'd like!).

5) EclipseLink will be in Kepler, but we've just completed a migration to Git, 
and we've decided we won't be ready to contribute a new build for Kepler M1. 
Instead we were planning on leaving the Juno contrib in place, until M2. Is 
this decision going to result in extra admin steps? Is there any way 
EclipseLink could be left active, as I will also be away on vacation during M1, 
so won't be available to activate it?
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Aggregation failure...

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Gwin

Looks like the identical repo isn't good enough. I'm investigating the 
aggregation failure.

On 01/08/2012 11:46 AM, Eric Gwin wrote:

David,

I've updated EclipseLink's aggregation build file to our release repo (from the 
last milestone - they are identical repos, but in different locations).

-Eric

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Aggregation failure...

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Gwin

I think It is resolved... small path issue fixed.

On 01/08/2012 11:56 AM, Eric Gwin wrote:

Looks like the identical repo isn't good enough. I'm investigating the 
aggregation failure.

On 01/08/2012 11:46 AM, Eric Gwin wrote:

David,

I've updated EclipseLink's aggregation build file to our release repo (from the 
last milestone - they are identical repos, but in different locations).

-Eric



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[cross-project-issues-dev] publishing from Hudson???

2012-07-25 Thread Eric Gwin

All,

I'm moving our build processes over to Hudson, and am running into an issue 
getting access to the built artifacts. We used to generate on build and had a 
separate process that would grab the bits and publish them to download.

I was hoping to follow a similar model since Hudson doesn't have access to the 
download site. However, I am running into a similar issue, though reversed... 
my user (that runs the script) doesn't seem to have access to the Hudson 
workspace.

I'd rather not have Hudson copy the bits to build then have a separate process 
copy them again from build to download, so I'm posting here to find out what 
other teams are doing.

Thanks.

-Eric
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[cross-project-issues-dev] Contributed new build of EclipseLink (pre-RC4)

2012-06-08 Thread Eric Gwin

Hi All,

Since RC3 was announced complete, and Dali requested it, I have submitted a new 
build of EclipseLink to the Repo before RC4. At this point it looks like it 
will also be our RC4+1 contribution, but Monday will tell...

-Eric
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Orbit and Maven question...

2012-01-04 Thread Eric Gwin

Thanks.

On 03/01/2012 4:31 PM, David M Williams wrote:

because I'd like confirmation that Orbit bundles follow a versioning
standard where the bundle uses the version of the original jar
followed by the build date:
javax.foo.jar (version 1.0.3) -javax.foo_1.0.3.date/time built.jar

I see I never answered you main question, so will now confirm, yes, that's
pretty much it. The first three segments are meant to match exactly the
original 3rd party jar/bundle, but the qualifier is not literally
date/time built but rather date/time of last CVS change, just to be
explicit.

HTH





From:   David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To: Cross project issuescross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org,
Date:   01/03/2012 03:07 PM
Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Orbit and Maven question...
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Yes, I am still lead, and no, no eclipse-maven coordination about
versioning that I am aware of.
There is some ongoing discussion of maven-orbit issues in bug 364469 [1]
and elsewhere, but first I've heard of versioning issues.
The problem of OSGi and Maven treating 3 part versions opposite of each
other sounds like a whopper.

You might already know the answer, but a broader question might be if OSGi
and Maven have tried to coordinate anything about versioning, which could
be asked on OSGi mailing list,
osgi-...@mail.osgi.org .

As an aside, Orbit specific questions can be asked on
orbit-...@eclipse.org.
As another aside, the info pages produced by the Eclipse Foundation should
always be accurate in terms of leads, etc., see
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/listofprojects.php
or for orbit specifically,
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.orbit

Thanks, sounds like some important issues between communities and nice to
know someone is working on them. I'm sure many in Eclipse will be
interested in your progress or outcome.


[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=364469




From:Eric Gwineric.g...@oracle.com
To:  David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, Cross project issues
 cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org,
Date:01/03/2012 02:15 PM
Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Orbit and Maven question...
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David,

You are listed as the lead for Orbit, but the project pages don't appear to
have been updated for a while.

I'm wondering if you are still the lead, because I'd like confirmation that
Orbit bundles follow a versioning standard where the bundle uses the
version of the original jar followed by the build date:
javax.foo.jar (version 1.0.3) -javax.foo_1.0.3.date/time built.jar

My understanding is that this is the case, and that it is followed to
easily track the jar that is wrapped (1.0.3), and maintain the ability to
fix wrapping bugs (by changing the qualifier:1.0.3.x).

The reason I'm asking is that our team publishes a maven repository for our
artifacts, and has for years. A few years ago we added our run-time
dependencies (which come from orbit).
At the time there was no coordinated effort to support Maven at Eclipse,
and we were fairly new to Maven as well. Since Orbit could release many
updated versions of the same bundle:
javax.foo:1.0.3.x
javax.foo:1.0.3.y
javax.foo:1.0.3.z
We had a problem.

Maven standards recognize only a three-part version and qualifier, but
there are special rules, so in order to maintain the immutability of a
version (javax.foo:1.0.3.x) we had to publish Orbit bundles using the
qualifier as well. However, opposite of OSGi standards, with Maven a
three-part version alone (1.0.3) is always higher than three-part version
and qualifier (1.0.3-x) {That meant that 1.0.3 would always supersede
1.0.3-anything}. In an attempt to eliminate confusion between versions,
we normalized using the four-part Orbit version (1.0.3.x), so we could
publish updated Orbit bundles. A side-effect in Maven is that indexing
won't work.

I'm wondering if you are aware of any standards Eclipse has adopted for
Orbit bundles with the Mavenization projects. We've been asked to migrate
to the Eclipse Maven repository, and I want to be sure I don't duplicate
effort, and curious at the solution they reached.

-Eric
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[cross-project-issues-dev] Orbit and Maven question...

2012-01-03 Thread Eric Gwin

David,

You are listed as the lead for Orbit, but the project pages don't appear to 
have been updated for a while.

I'm wondering if you are still the lead, because I'd like confirmation that 
Orbit bundles follow a versioning standard where the bundle uses the version of 
the original jar followed by the build date:
javax.foo.jar (version 1.0.3) -   javax.foo_1.0.3.date/time built.jar

My understanding is that this is the case, and that it is followed to easily 
track the jar that is wrapped (1.0.3), and maintain the ability to fix wrapping 
bugs (by changing the qualifier:1.0.3.x).

The reason I'm asking is that our team publishes a maven repository for our 
artifacts, and has for years. A few years ago we added our run-time 
dependencies (which come from orbit).
At the time there was no coordinated effort to support Maven at Eclipse, and we 
were fairly new to Maven as well. Since Orbit could release many updated 
versions of the same bundle:
  javax.foo:1.0.3.x
  javax.foo:1.0.3.y
  javax.foo:1.0.3.z
We had a problem.

Maven standards recognize only a three-part version and qualifier, but there are special rules, 
so in order to maintain the immutability of a version (javax.foo:1.0.3.x) we had to 
publish Orbit bundles using the qualifier as well. However, opposite of OSGi standards, with 
Maven a three-part version alone (1.0.3) is always higher than three-part version and qualifier 
(1.0.3-x) {That meant that 1.0.3 would always supersede 1.0.3-anything}. In an attempt 
to eliminate confusion between versions, we normalized using the four-part Orbit version 
(1.0.3.x), so we could publish updated Orbit bundles. A side-effect in Maven is that indexing 
won't work.

I'm wondering if you are aware of any standards Eclipse has adopted for Orbit 
bundles with the Mavenization projects. We've been asked to migrate to the 
Eclipse Maven repository, and I want to be sure I don't duplicate effort, and 
curious at the solution they reached.

-Eric
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Empty EclipseLink p2 repository for Juno

2011-11-23 Thread Eric Gwin

Looks like the metadata failed to generate. reverted to previous.

-Eric

On 23/11/2011 3:55 AM, Zeb Ford-Reitz wrote:

As of the most recent commit to the Juno aggregator, the referenced update site 
for EclipseLink is empty. This breaks Juno projects that have a dependency on 
EclipseLink (which may actually only be Jubula). I've opened 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=364542 to track this issue.

 - Zeb


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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] For Maven users: Questions about versions and Eclipse

2011-11-08 Thread Eric Gwin

Thank you for your reply.

As I understand it you are saying that the naming in the repository is separate 
from the naming of the object once it is served back out for the purposes of 
another project. If so, then the Maven versioning information is completely 
separate from the OSGi bundle-version, and can be dealt with separately.

On 08/11/2011 11:07 AM, Joakim Erdfelt wrote:

The important thing to your question is how the various plugins for the maven 
projects finally place the dependencies into a means that satisfies the OSGi 
framework you are using.


Yes it was. Part of my concern was that P2 and/or Equinox seems to link the bundle's 
filename with the internal bundle-name and bundle-version, if Maven did the same with the 
version parameter the resulting bundle wouldn't work in Equinox/P2, and that 
led to the question of how other teams got around the issue (which seems not to be an 
issue).

Thanks.

-Eric
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