Re: [css-d] Background images

2005-07-29 Thread Roberto Gorjão

Olá Abyss,


Maybe it's this you want?...

body {
  background-image: url(/images/whatever.jpg);
  background-position:center;
  background-repeat:no-repeat;
}

Hth!

Adeus,

Roberto


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Abyss Information wrote:

Hiya all,

does anyone know where I can grab some css code to display a 
background image right in the center of the page

regardless of the screen resolution?


Regards,
Abyss
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[css-d] absolutely positioned menu vanishes with IE

2005-07-29 Thread rupert
This is driving me a bit nuts so any help appreciated.  I'm trying to  
build my first site using CSS - taking the big leap from table based  
design.


Anyway, I'm wanting a page with a header, footer, a navigation menu,  
and a two column fluid layout for the contents and I found a design  
philosophy which seems to allow this to work really nicely, except I  
can't get it to work properly in IE.


I've chosen to do it the way I have as I wanted to have the source of  
the page to contain the information with the most important stuff at  
the top and the least important stuff at the bottom as this is  
apparently good practice.  For this reason (ignoring the header and  
footer) I have the main content appearing first in the page source,  
the stuff in a side pane on the left appearing second in the source  
and the navigation menu last .


To achieve this, I've found that using negative margins works really  
well - enabling me to have a two column design with a footer that  
appears properly however long either of the two columns are.


I've postioned the menu absolutly as this seems to be the only way to  
get it to appear where I want on the rendered page with it appearing  
after the other gubbins in the page source.


The problem is that in IE, if I try and combine the menu and stuff in  
the two columns, the menu vanishes.


Some test pages illustrating this are at:

http://www.rupespad.com/test1.php

This shows the two column layout working fine

http://www.rupespad.com/test2.php

This shows the menu (with nothing in the left hand column)

http://www.rupespad.com/test3.php

This is the same as test2, except this time I've added in the left  
hand column contents and the menu vanishes in IE (6 on PC).  Works  
fine in Firefox and Safari.


The css is at:

http://www.rupespad.com/test.css

Any suggestions what I can do about this without sacrificing my  
design principles.  I would like to avoid the use of hacks if  
possible.  Any help very very gratefully recieved.


Cheers and many thanks in advance.

Rupert

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Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-29 Thread Bob Easton
John Gruber has an article at Daring Fireball which shows another way 
of doing footnotes that has very simple markup and includes a return 
link that is both attractive and convenient.


http://daringfireball.net/2005/07/footnotes

I took a look at the accessibility of the techinhque here:
http://www.access-matters.com/2005/07/23/daring-fireball-footnotes/

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Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-29 Thread Beau Hartshorne

Hi Bob,

If the sidenote was inserted like this:

pSome textsup1/supsmall class=sidenote1. This is a  
sidenote./small that appears in the middle of a sentence./p


How would that be presented in a screen reader? What can we do to  
improve it?


Thank you,
Beau

On 29-Jul-05, at 5:51 AM, Bob Easton wrote:

John Gruber has an article at Daring Fireball which shows another  
way of doing footnotes that has very simple markup and includes a  
return link that is both attractive and convenient.


http://daringfireball.net/2005/07/footnotes

I took a look at the accessibility of the techinhque here:
http://www.access-matters.com/2005/07/23/daring-fireball-footnotes/


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[css-d] HUGE gap tween DIVS in Firefox, not in IE???

2005-07-29 Thread Thomas Hall
Please help - http://design.tmhdesign.com/szidonia   This page looks as it
should in IE, but not in Firefox. I validated it and also viewed the block
level outlines in Firefox but am clueless as to why the div is not butting
up in Firefox as it does in IE. Thanks in advance.

 

Thomas M. Hall

 

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Re: [css-d] Table of Contents with flexible dotted lines

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Cassidy


On Jul 28, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Christian Heilmann wrote:


On 7/28/05, Jared Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all, I've come up with this work-around to deliver a typical 
book-like table of contents entry appearance (with dashes/dots 
between toc entry and page number) and while it seems fully flexible, 
pretty reliable, and not too trashy in terms of coding, I'd still 
welcome anyone's alternative approaches or experiences.


Page available, with CSS embedded:

http://stein.uvsc.edu/steinja/tableofcontents.html


Nice, but suffering from non-semantic HTML and classitis. However, you
could apply the same styles to  a nested ordered list...

The other question is if I need to have a book style TOC on the web
when there are no page numbers per se


Page numbers, I can think of reasons:
1. Its easier for the readers to keep track of where they are/were if 
they are reading in multiple sessions.

2. If you are putting an old book with an index and TOC online.



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Re: [css-d] HUGE gap tween DIVS in Firefox, not in IE???

2005-07-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 7/29/05, Thomas Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please help - http://design.tmhdesign.com/szidonia   This page looks as it
 should in IE, but not in Firefox. I validated it and also viewed the block
 level outlines in Firefox but am clueless as to why the div is not butting
 up in Firefox as it does in IE. Thanks in advance.

Just tried to grasp what you are doing there, but the mix of embedded
styles, tables and css layout makes it really hard to trace what is
going on.

Things like that are mostly useless though:
div id=top
nbsp;
/div

I would think it a good plan to either do tables or do CSS layouts,
and either do all in the CSS or all embedded. Mixing and matching is a
maintenance nightmare.

Also, starting with Firefox and then fixing it for MSIE is the safer way ahead.
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Re: [css-d] IE navigation positioning/padding/margins

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Cassidy

I guess you don't realizes IE comes with OSX.
If I took your advice about 75% of my users would be ignored; since my 
corporate intranet people set up their sites for IE MAC and WIN and 
many of my users use IE MAC as their browser for everything.


Something tells that a site for a institute teaching graphic arts has 
MAC users. I know in NYC 95% of the graphic arts community uses MACs.


On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:13 PM, D Ross wrote:

Don't code your site for ie mac. ie mac has been abandoned by 
microsoft and hasnt been updated in 3 or so years and never will be.
More importantly, don't code for ie mac for the simple fact that your 
catering to people who havent updated their browsers and computers in 
a VERY long time.
The trouble it has with some basic css is not worth all the extra 
hours you'll spend coding for it when it's a browser only used by 1 in 
5,000 users.


If youre worried about mac browsers code for safari and firefox.


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Re: [css-d] IE navigation positioning/padding/margins

2005-07-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On 29 Jul 2005, at 7:02 am, Virtuallee wrote:


Not IE mac - haven't thought about mac yet :(

http://www.alisonbranagan.com/new_website/index.htm



The 30% or so Mac users who still use IE Mac in my stats will be happy. 
Your site display identically to Firefox 1.0+ latest nightly build.
(except that the font-size is pretty darn small for my old eyes, but 
let's not nitpick...;-)


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[css-d] spacing between bullets and text

2005-07-29 Thread Barbara Dozetos

Hi folks,

Our new design uses a graphic for bulleted lists.  Looks great in FF, 
etc, but IE leaves far too little padding between the image and the 
beginning of the text for each list item.  Is there a way to get IE to 
give it some more space without screwing up real browsers?


Example: http://www.pcc.com/pedguidetest/software.html

Thanks for you help.

Barb

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Re: [css-d] IE navigation positioning/padding/margins

2005-07-29 Thread Virtuallee

Hi

Thanks everyone for your feedback as well as advice on mac IE. Quite a 
debate on the subject! GREAT to hear it (miracle of miracles) actually 
looks okay in Mac IE (hadn't tested it yet). Thanks, Michael for your 
advice below on how to fix the positioning. I'm away for the night but 
will give it a go tomorrow and hopefully all sorted...


Cheers
Lee

Michael Landis wrote:


Virtuallee wrote (about http://www.alisonbranagan.com/new_website/index.htm):

 


I've got most of a site working in Firefox, but the navigation is
moving out of alignment in IE. I can't seem to get it right. Does
anyone have any ideas? Not IE mac - haven't thought about mac yet :(
   



Actually, a lot of this probably has to do with your HTML. The UL's
you are styling have title=Navigation or title=NavigationTop. It
looks like IE is improperly translating this into class=Navigation
and class=NavigationTop and therefore implementing the rules that
are removing your margins. Firefox is properly ignoring the titles,
and giving you the advantage of its default margins and padding. Try
switching title with class on your UL's, then start working on it
again.
 




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Fwd: [css-d] Mysterious gaps -first

2005-07-29 Thread Mark Holden
That space before the subnav div worked! Thanks a million. Never knew about 
that part of the bug.

Now, does anyone have any idea about the unwanted boxpunching? For 
reference, here's the relevant CSS:

#header {
 position: absolute;
 top: 7px; left: 0;
 margin-left: 180px; }
 
 #styleswitch {
 padding-left: 6.7em;
 text-align: right;
 float: right; }


For XHTML that goes like this:

div id=header
 div id=styleswitch title=Change the default font size.
 h3font size:/h3
 pa href=# onclick=setActiveStyleSheet('small');return false;s/a 
 | 
 a href=# onclick=setActiveStyleSheet('medium');return false;m/a | 
 a href=# onclick=setActiveStyleSheet('big');return false;l/a/p
 /div
 ...some code...
 /div


And for some reason, #styleswitch is extruding from its parent containers.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [css-d] spacing between bullets and text

2005-07-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
:
 Hi folks,
 
 Our new design uses a graphic for bulleted lists.  Looks great in FF,
 etc, but IE leaves far too little padding between the image and the
 beginning of the text for each list item.  Is there a way to get IE to
 give it some more space without screwing up real browsers?
 
 Example: http://www.pcc.com/pedguidetest/software.html

Instead of list-style use background image and padding. 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/introduction.htm

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[css-d] SOT: background-image article on A List Apart?

2005-07-29 Thread Robyn

Hi all,

A while back I stumbled across an article somewhere that detailed how to 
 apply a background image to just the bottom of the page and have a 
background color for the rest.  The article used a gradient for the 
bottom image.  I thought the article was at A List Apart, but I can't 
seem to find it.  I want to have my coworker read it (I already know how 
to do it, but thought it was a good article).


Anyone know where I can find it?  I searched the ALA archives and 
perused the CSS articles, but alas, I'm coming up empty.  Also checked 
out MezzoBlue, in case it was there, but I can't seem to turn anything 
up there either.


Thanks,
Robyn
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RE: [css-d] spacing between bullets and text

2005-07-29 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Barbara Dozetos ink wired:

 Is there a way to get IE to give it some more 
 space without screwing up real browsers?

Would it be practical to modify the bullet graphic with transparency on
the right that would create padding?  Just a thought...


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[css-d] Fieldset woes

2005-07-29 Thread Vincent Hide
Hi All,

I have been experimenting with creating forms without tables. I like it.

I have however noticed some issues in IE with fieldset.

The form is here and as you can see if you look in IE, the background
color of the fielset is overlapping outside of it's area (at the top
edge).

Also the margin that is present at the bottom of each fieldset in other
browsers is not there.

http://www.lampdesign.co.uk/formtest.html

Am I missing something here?

Thanks,

Vince

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Re: [css-d] CSS background images and Macromedia

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

KavinskyC wrote:


Anyone familiar with the WYSIWYG view in Dreamweaver and Contribute not
rendering background images imported via CSS properly? They render fine
in the browser. I haven't had any luck finding anything on the web on
it. The problem I'm having is we have content editors using Contribute
(which only views pages in WYSIWYG), and it renders the background image
as black, making the text impossible to see. Can anyone point me to a
resource that addresses this issue?
 



Chris,

I never saw an answer to your post, but I apologize if I'm providing 
info you've already found out... Anyway, DW will render a background 
image as black if it is positioned with a zero unit that has no unit 
identifier.  For example:


background: url(tile.gif) 0 50%;

The solution is to add a unit identifier to the zero unit.

Let me know if this doesn't solve your problem.

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Strange CSS Error in IE

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

Jim Jeffers wrote:


http://www.jltmobilecomputers.com/notyet/

If you browse through the site but then click the back button in IE the top
half of the page does not load.  Also, if you goto a page in IE and then hit
the refresh button the top half of the page does not load as well.
Awkwardly enough on this page specifically it does not even show up on the
initial load:

http://www.jltmobilecomputers.com/notyet/products/

This is very strange and I'm not experiencing the problem in Fire Fox or
Safari.  The top half of the page consist of two absolutely positioned divs
within the main container div.  Upon refresh these divs can no longer be
seen and the container divs tiling background is all that is displayed.
 



I'm not seeing this problem on any page in IE6, WinXP, SP2.  Did you fix 
it, and if so, can you post back to the list so that others can benefit 
from what you found?


Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Inline image not appearing in IE/Win

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

H Shaw wrote:


I'm having a problem in IE/Win where the background
color of the main content div in the page linked
below, is covering up the embedded divs (a
photo/caption div and the footer div) that reside
within the content div. It looks perfect in FireFox,
so you can reference what it's supposed to look like
by viewing it there.

http://www.urbancrunchy.com/surfrider/e_fordBoardContest.shtml
 



Heather,

It looks as though it's been fixed, as the page appears identical on FF 
and IE.  Would you mind sharing with the list how you fixed it, so that 
people searching the archives for a similar problem can benefit from 
your experience?


Thanks,
Zoe

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Re: [css-d] HUGE gap tween DIVS in Firefox, not in IE???

2005-07-29 Thread Michael Cassidy


On Jul 29, 2005, at 10:20 AM, David Laakso wrote:

 and coding to FF instead of  IE? It might make things go easier for 
you (if not everyone else).


Wondering about this: how do people tackle the problem of browsers 
working differently.
Since 90+% of users use IE Win wouldn't it be better for most sites to 
get their pages to work in IE Win then modify them for other browser? 
Or is it better to get it working in a browser that conforms to specs 
the go after IE Win?


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Re: [css-d] Win Firefox extra space first time loaded

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

i lagos wrote:


weired problem:  the first time
http://www.ilagos.com/marco/published-work is loaded in Win Firefox
there is extra space between the bottom of the box and the p that
has the caption. when i reload  the page, the extra spacing goes away.
once page is cached you can't see extra space. it only happen on first
load.  any one has run into this?  all other modern browsers in win
and mac ok (have not tested in opera).

http://www.ilagos.com/marco/published-work
style sheet: http://www.ilagos.com/marco/textpattern/css.php?s=default
 



This is actually not a CSS problem.  It is because you don't have a 
height set for your image.  Since the height of the box depends on the 
height of the image, the browser draws the box, then loads the image in, 
and your box ends up bigger than it needs to be.  Once it's in the cache 
the browser knows how tall the box needs to be and shortens it accordingly.


The old rule to always set the width and height of your images in the 
source still holds true.


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[css-d] Floats crashing IE6/Win?

2005-07-29 Thread ugo pozo

Hello everyone,

This homepage is giving me more headaches than I expected. Take a look 
at the following link in Firefox (and Firefox only, for now):


http://www.cityofdis.org/flash/?irpara=contato

(relevant css: http://www.cityofdis.org/flash/default/contato.css)

I have styled a form using backgrounds, both Firefox and IE6 seemed 
happy with this, but now IE6 is complaining about... floats.


I haven't tried to reproduce this effect in other computers, but it 
seems to me that IE6 crashes everytime it tries to load this page, with 
a pure virtual function call run-time error. If I remove the float: 
left from the short fields to the left, altough the layout is gone, IE6 
won't crash.


Curious is that I almost managed to solve this problem putting a div 
called leftform around the three floating fields. I have left its 
style commented out in contato.css. However, if I put a div inside a 
paragraph, the page won't validate.


Is this a problem of my IE only? And, if it's not, what should I do? 
Should I forget about validation, use the ugly and rude tables (I have 
tried this and it validated...)?


Thanks in advance.

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[css-d] indenting the text in a textbox?

2005-07-29 Thread Robyn
Anyone know how to indent the place where the cursor begins in a text 
box?  I'm having a hard time getting it to work without affecting other 
things in IE...


I have a text box with a background image (for a google search) and the 
textbox contains a 15 px image to the far left with the google 'G' in 
it.  I want the cursor for the text box to appear to the right of this, 
so I used the text-indent : 17px on the style for that textbox.  It 
works, but it creates a space between the TD that holds my drop down and 
the TD that holds my search box.  This happens in in IE only.  Firefox 
is ok.


I checked my doctype, 'cause I thought it could be box-model related, 
but I'm using XHTML strict in standards mode.  My CSS + HTML is below. 
Please excuse the layout with tables :-/




div#portal_header_navigation {
  background-image:url(/images/Header.gif);
  position:absolute;
  width:1000px;
  height:115px;
  z-index:1;
  left: 0px;
  top: 0px;
}

.portal_search_field_web {
  vertical-align:top;
  padding:0px;
  margin:0px;
  border: 1px black solid;
  font-size:10px;
  height:16px;
  width:120px;
  text-indent:20px;
  background-image: url(/images/GoogleSearch.gif);
  background-repeat: no-repeat;
}




div id=portal_header_navigation
table width=296 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0
  tr
td
  width=56
  id=portal_search_text
  align=right

  img
src=/includes/images/portal/Search.gif
border=0
  
/td
td width=65
  select
name=selSearch
id=selSearch
onchange=checkWebSearch(this);
class=portal_search_select
  
option
  value=school
  selected=selected

  School
/option
option
  value=people

  People
/option
option
  value=web

  Web
/option
  /select
/td

td width=175
  input
type=text
id=txtSearch
name=txtSearch
class=portal_search_input
  /
  input
type=submit
value=GO!
id=portal_search_button
  /
/td
  /tr
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Re: [css-d] faux columns need a border and curved look

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

Scot Schlinger wrote:


I am trying to use faux columns so that my columns will have the same
height in the body section of the page.  I have part of it working, but
now I wish to get a border and curved appearance to the bottom of each
division (box).  I was wondering if someone could shed some light on
this topic?

This is how I would like it to look:
http://www.rell.com/test/index1.html
 



Got a 404.


This is how it looks currently:
http://www.rell.com/test/index.html
 



This is basically the same sort of design Macromedia has.  I wrote an 
article about how their layout is constructed for CMX, and the same 
principles would apply to your design:

http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=AC5AC

Basically, since an element can only have one background, you either 
need to nest divs within divs and layer the backgrounds, or get creative 
and add the pieces of the backgrounds to elements that are already 
there, such as the headers in the boxes.


Zoe

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RE: [css-d] Refresh needed and Jumping Div's (IE6/Win)

2005-07-29 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
 From:  Glenn E. Lanier, II
 Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 4:28 PM

 http://bellsouthpwp.net/S/p/Speedy7/transcript.html (CSS inline
 for ease in troubleshooting)) that displays a section of a 
 form on page load.

 The problem is that when additional fields are displayed, the 
 bottom border of
 the fieldset is redrawn (as new items are contained in the 
 fieldset), but a
 little portion of the line is still displayed at the original 
 location. Resizing
 the window and/or switching to another window and back clears 
 this left-over
 bit. My question, what should I do to correct this behavior? 

Not sure it was the correct thing to do, but I fixed this by hiding the
containing div and redisplaying it.

 Also, in IE, when
 the additional fields are displayed, the last one is mostly 
 cut off -- why?

Also corrected, by adding a _margin-bottom:1em to the  div.Self, div.College,
div.Other, div.CollegeOther  definition.

 The second problem, and probably easier to diagnose, deals with the
 divAddTranscript (the Add Transcript) link -- when you 
 mouseover/hover in IE it
 shifts vertically toward the top of the screen a few pixels; 
 subsequent
 mouseovers have it staying put (once shifted, no more shifts).

I'm still having trouble with understanding what is causing the upward vertical
shift when hovering on the Add Transcript button the first time. 

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [css-d] Table of Contents with flexible dotted lines

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

Jared Stein wrote:


Hey all, I've come up with this work-around to deliver a typical book-like 
table of contents entry appearance (with dashes/dots between toc entry and page 
number) and while it seems fully flexible, pretty reliable, and not too trashy 
in terms of coding, I'd still welcome anyone's alternative approaches or 
experiences.

Page available, with CSS embedded:

http://stein.uvsc.edu/steinja/tableofcontents.html
 



Our wiki has a page with some examples of this, so I'd encourage 
everyone to keep it up to date and make it more useful.  I've added the 
two links mentioned in this thread, but I'd encourage the other 
participants to add more info about browser support, pros/cons, and 
techniques used to create the effect.


http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=DotLeaders

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Re: [css-d] HUGE gap tween DIVS in Firefox, not in IE???

2005-07-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
   and coding to FF instead of  IE? It might make things go easier for
  you (if not everyone else).
 
 Wondering about this: how do people tackle the problem of browsers
 working differently.
 Since 90+% of users use IE Win wouldn't it be better for most sites to
 get their pages to work in IE Win then modify them for other browser?
 Or is it better to get it working in a browser that conforms to specs
 the go after IE Win?

Personally I do the latter, seems more future proof to me.
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Re: [css-d] absolute div growth problem

2005-07-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater

Michael Landis wrote:


For more information on 2-column layouts, feel free to check out the Wiki:

http://www.westga.edu/~www/projects/library/index2.html
 



I think the wrong link got pasted there. :-)  Michael meant this:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=TwoColumnLayouts

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Floats crashing IE6/Win?

2005-07-29 Thread Ingo Chao

ugo pozo schrieb:

http://www.cityofdis.org/flash/?irpara=contato


Is this a problem of my IE only? And, if it's not, what should I do? 


No, it crashes mine too, thanks. On a local copy, it crashed when I was 
playing with the text-zoom. This can happen in tight fittings.


In
div#content form#contato p.formcontainer

I changed the  padding: 0px 20px; to  padding: 0px 19px; and I didn't 
manage to crash it anymore.


This is not a fix, of course. The cargo-box is shifted a little to the 
right for some reasons. Maybe a duplicated spurious char in a tight 
float fitting. You might try to reduce the width of the contained boxes, 
some air for exploder's bugs.


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[css-d] UAs which allow user to select alternate style sheets?

2005-07-29 Thread T. R. Valentine
I know that Firefox/Win, Mozilla/Win, and Opera 7/WinLinux 
8/WinLinux permit a user to select an alternate style sheet from a
menu.

I've looked for a 'comprehensive' list of UAs that give users this
ability, but have been unable to find one. At this point, I'd settle
for any kind of listing that includes the main browsers for Windows,
Linux, and Mac.

Any one know of something like that?

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RE: [css-d] float help

2005-07-29 Thread Scot Schlinger
Am I not understanding floats correctly?

Ben,

I am not the greatest at this either, as I am learning, but Jim Davis
passed this url
(http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/lists/grid.htm) along to me
and it help out with a project I am currently working on.

I hope it helps,
Scot
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RE: [css-d] HUGE gap tween DIVS in Firefox, not in IE???

2005-07-29 Thread Ian Skinner
I also do the latter.  A bit counter intuitive, but I have actually found that 
getting the site to work properly and as desired in FF and then tweaking what 
is necessary for IE is easier and quicker then the other way around.

I think it is because it separates the problems of whether the error is my code 
or quirks of IE.  Once I have it worked out in FF and verified by a validator.  
I know the problems with my code have been worked out.  Then I can test in IE 
and usually don't have too many problems as long as I have avoided the worst 
short comings of IE.


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...  you (if not everyone else).
...
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... Since 90+% of users use IE Win wouldn't it be better for most sites to
... get their pages to work in IE Win then modify them for other browser?
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[css-d] CSS Image Map Popup Dysfunctional with Netscape/Firefox

2005-07-29 Thread Mark A. Ebel
The following HTML is a simple example of a CSS image map.  The mapped image in 
this case is yahoo.gif which is the large red yahoo! at the top of the 
www.yahoo.com homepage.  For this example the 'h' in yahoo has been mapped.  
When the mouse cursor is moved over the 'h' in yahoo, a border is displayed 
around the 'h' and some text is displayed in a separate popup.

This example works correctly using IE6.  The background of the popup is clipped 
in Netscape/Firefox.  It appears that the background color of the popup will 
not extend beyond the edge of the block defined for the anchor located over the 
'h' in yahoo.  This is apparent by changing the left attribute of the popup 
text (#imap1 a:hover span) which is currently set to 20px.

There is an obvious difference in functionality between IE and 
Netscape/Firefox, but which is correct?  The IE functionality is definitely 
more desirable for this application.  I would like to find a solution for all 
the browsers.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

html
head
titlePopup HTML/title
style  type=text/css
#imap1 {
  display:block;
  width:232px;
  height:44px;
  background:url(yahoo.gif) no-repeat;
  position:relative;
}

#imap1 dd {
  position:absolute;
  padding:0;
  margin:0;
}

#imap1 #area1 {
  left:85px;
  top:6px;
}

#imap1 a {
  position:relative;
  display:block;
  width:42px;
  height:29px;
  text-decoration:none;
}

#imap1 a span, #imap1 a:visited span {
  display: none;
  }
 
#imap1 a:hover {
  border:1px solid #000;
  } 
 
#imap1 a:hover span {
  position: absolute;
  top: 30px;
  left: 20px;
  display: block;
  background: #fdd;
  border: 1px solid red;
  } 
/style
/head
body

dl id=imap1
dd id=area1a href=#spantable cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 
border=0trtdPopup/td/trtrtdtext!/td/tr/table/span/a/dd
/dl

/body
/html
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[css-d] IE form problem

2005-07-29 Thread Schalk Neethling

Greetings All!

Would you please have a look at the following page:
www.volume4.com/dmp/lead_buyer/update_registration.html

I have got this form to work completely except, in IE, the fourth group 
last field of the 'Additional Contacts' field set. For some reason IE 
drop this field down to the next line. I have changed the size of this 
form element but this does not produce any results. The other aspect of 
this that is strange to me is that the previous 3 groups do not produce 
this problem even though they are marked up the same.


Am I missing something? Thank you in advance.

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Re: [css-d] CSS Image Map Popup Dysfunctional with Netscape/Firefox

2005-07-29 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, July 29, 2005, 6:00:08 PM, Mark wrote:
 This example works correctly using IE6.  The background of the popup
 dd id=area1a href=#spantable cellpadding=0
 cellspacing=0
 border=0trtdPopup/td/trtrtdtext!/td/tr/table/span/a/dd

You can't have a TABLE in an A.  Invalid markup = unreliable results.

You probably want to use something like
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites/
or just a plain old image map.

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