[css-d] forcing an element to the bottom of a cell?
Hi, On http://www.microcinemadvd.com/documentary/, I want to get the BROWSE ENTIRE STORE link (on the left side) to always end up just above the newsletter signup form. But on FF, the link always seems to end up in the middle of the page - on the first display of the page. If the page gets redrawn, the link goes to the bottom. this link is within a table cell and the table cell has vertical-align: bottom etc. the table and the div surrounding that left hand table have height:100% - I presumed that would stretch the table/div to the height of the main area but so what is the trick here? I can not put the link right above the form b/c that wouldn't work with how tables are used to structure the page. or a negative margin perhaps? Safari does not even do the right thing on a redraw I have no idea what it's like in IE but most of me just doesn't really care I bet this is something simple... I left this problem months ago and had to deal with other stuff thanks doug __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Jumping buttons in IE6 fixed position hack. - update
... And some more no-style friendly (and searchbot friendly), a beginning: * updated testpage http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-universal_index6-update.html Good luck, francky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Do this here but not there...
Hello folks,
My apologies for the title, but I couldn't think of another way to
signal my question.
I have a div within which can appear table, p, or li elements. I want
these elements to have a left hand margin of 10px so...
#myDiv p, #myDiv table, #myDiv li {
margin-left: 10px;
}
However, sometimes the li elements are within a table within
#myDiv. I'd appreciate some guidance on how to write my CSS so that
those li elements (within a table within #myDiv) are not given a left
margin of 10px?
Thanks,
Bruce
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Re: [css-d] Styling legend in fieldset
I have just been doing something similar again and dug out my basic page... Looks like it will work for whatever width you want, (just set the formWrapper to what you want.) http://art-dept.org/test/standardform.html All the css id in the head and there is one background image. Any comments are welcome on improvements etc. It was done as an aid for some other developers. I seem to be spending more and more time on forms so found it useful to get the stuff in one place, maybe I'll start getting a library of these things together at some point... Austin - Eystein Alnaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-tibbits_form-legend-6.htm I'm still not getting there, and as off now my legends have been replaced with h3s :( Time is an issue, can't always get what we want. -E __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Do this here but not there...
Bruce,
on Friday, February 23, 2007 at 12:27 Bruce MacKay wrote:
#myDiv p, #myDiv table, #myDiv li {
margin-left: 10px;
}
However, sometimes the li elements are within a table within
#myDiv. I'd appreciate some guidance on how to write my CSS so that
those li elements (within a table within #myDiv) are not given a left
margin of 10px?
1.)
#mydiv { padding-left: 10px; }
2.)
#mydiv table li,
#mydiv table p { margin-left: 0; }
regards
Martin
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[css-d] Nested Percentage Values
Hi Recently I've been moving from 'px' based sites and onto more fluid and elastic layouts. I've just been playing around with using % heights and margins in the following document: http://sixtyten.co.uk/test.html Basically, it's a div nested inside a container div. I've set a height and width for the container div in %, and then applied a similar format to the nested div... this has all worked fine. However the problem comes when I set a top-margin of 50% to the nested div. Theoretically I would have thought the nested div would have though calculated the 50% from it's parent, however that doesn't seem to be the case and looks as though it's getting it from the body. Maybe I'm just confused about how this should work and any advise or links to explaining why this is happening would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Lee __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Styling legend in fieldset
http://art-dept.org/test/standardform.html Austin That looks a lot like what I needed 2-3 days ago :) Deadline is today, and the site is almost done. With some bad markup. But I'm definitly bookmarking your example for later use. Thanks! ~eys __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Nested Percentage Values
On Feb 23, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Lee Powell wrote: http://sixtyten.co.uk/test.html Basically, it's a div nested inside a container div. I've set a height and width for the container div in %, and then applied a similar format to the nested div... this has all worked fine. However the problem comes when I set a top-margin of 50% to the nested div. Theoretically I would have thought the nested div would have though calculated the 50% from it's parent, however that doesn't seem to be the case and looks as though it's getting it from the body. From CSS 2.1, 8.3 Margins percentage The percentage is calculated with respect to the width of the generated box's containing block. Note that this is true for 'margin-top' and 'margin-bottom' as well. If the containing block's width depends on this element, then the resulting layout is undefined in CSS 2.1. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#propdef-margin 'with respect to the width' is key here. Resize you window horizontal to see what happens (using a decent browser, that is. IE sometimes does crazy things with % margins). Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE7 text size bug?
I seem to be triggering a text size bug in IE7. I don't have a copy of 7 yet, but when I went to a test machine to view the site, all the text was microscopic. The markup is XHTML 1.0 strict and validates as such. The CSS has validation errors on lines 230, 239, 704 and 705. The latter two are uses of opacity and the former two are uses of display:marker, a rule that was valid in CSS2 but not in 2.1 Since the text size issue is outside of those areas, I don't see why they would affect it. All text on every page, whether in a list or not, whether in a highlighted box (the use for opacity) or not, is affected. And *only* under IE7. IE 6 displays the text OK, as does Firefox, Safari and Opera. Any idea what weird rendering bug I just triggered? I suspect there will be other problems with 7, and I've arranged for some time with the test machine later to do the searchdestroy bit, but if I can get some advance information it'll be a help. Site: http://www.whc2008.org/ Apologies in advance for the disorganization in the CSS file. Multiple designers with differing workstyles worked on it, and the workstyles haven't been resolved, yet. Site is due for its Grand Opening in about a month. Have Fun, Arlen -- In God we trust, all others must supply data __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 text size bug?
I seem to be triggering a text size bug in IE7. I don't have a copy of 7 yet, but when I went to a test machine to view the site, all the text was microscopic. Just checked the site on another PC with IE6. On first load the site is Ok, menus work, except preferences. On clicking on a menu, the font on the menus reduce in size. Refreshing the page results in the page starting normal size and then the menu font changing to a smaller size. The rest of page is OK. Ian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/698 - Release Date: 23/02/2007 04:39 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 text size bug?
Arlen Walker wrote: I seem to be triggering a text size bug in IE7. Site: http://www.whc2008.org/ Arlen You are not triggering a text-size-bug . Check and re-set the machine. Default in IE/7.0 is: pagezoom100% viewtext-size medium Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 text size bug?
On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Ian Young wrote: Just checked the site on another PC with IE6. On first load the site is Ok, menus work, except preferences. On clicking on a menu, the font on the menus reduce in size. Refreshing the page results in the page starting normal size and then the menu font changing to a smaller size. The rest of page is OK. Yeah, I'm tracking that one down myself. I think it's something in the styleswitcher code I'm using, related to the FOUC bug. It's not as serious as the IE7 bug, though. The preferences menu works, but what's happening is it's dropping down behind the yahoo search box, so you can't see it. It's next on my hit parade after the IE7 text size bug. It comes and goes as I twiddle with things like z-index; I've fixed it three times, but I just didn't like the kludges I was fixing it with, so I keep on. I may be forced pop the search into the menu bar before I'm done. We've about resolved the CSS workstyle issues, so I'll clean that up before finalizing the search box problem. Have Fun, Arlen -- In God we trust, all others must supply data __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 text size bug?
Arlen Walker wrote: Site: http://www.whc2008.org/ Observations on a slow connection. In IE6: page loads ok with pretty normal text, but once everything is in place _all_ text switches to a size I need glasses to read - 10px I think. Same happens on reloads. Some javascript that overrides font-size after load? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE7 text size bug?
Arlen Walker wrote: On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:56 AM, ~davidLaakso wrote: You are not triggering a text-size-bug . Check and re-set the machine. Default in IE/7.0 is: pagezoom100% viewtext-size medium Hmmm. I had done that. One thing, though, that machine had custom font size in the video control panel and the custom size was 113% (108dpi). I didn't try resetting that to a normal setting. So you're telling me you were able to read the text in IE7? re: http://www.whc2008.org/ XP Yes. I am telling you I am able to read the text in IE7.0 at 1280 without any problem. And, yes... I am telling you I am able to read the text in IE6.0 at 1280 without any problem. And, yes... I am telling you both IE6.0 and IE7.0 are set at default. And, I am telling you neither IE6.0 nor IE7.0 are in accessibility mode. Arlen Best, ~dL -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] forcing an element to the bottom of a cell?
Douglas Fraser wrote: On http://www.microcinemadvd.com/documentary/, I want to get the BROWSE ENTIRE STORE link (on the left side) to always end up just above the newsletter signup form. But on FF, the link always seems to end up in the middle of the page - on the first display of the page. If the page gets redrawn, the link goes to the bottom. Step one: fix the 346 HTML validation errors: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.microcinemadvd.com%2Fdocumentary%2F -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty, community __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Styling legend in fieldset
Austin Harris wrote: [...] http://art-dept.org/test/standardform.html [...] Hi Austin, This kind of pages we like! :-) I seem to be spending more and more time on forms so found it useful to get the stuff in one place, maybe I'll start getting a library of these things together at some point... Austin ... and more easy to realize (in the meantime): adding this example to the css Wiki page about FormElements: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FormElements Idea? Greetings, francky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] FooterStickAlt with a background color
So, I've created a page using the exact code from footerStickAlt http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/ except I've given a background to the HTML. Unfortunately, the background applies only to the page to the extent of the viewport height. Which means that if the page is taller than the viewport, the area below the viewport will not have the background applied. Any solutions? -- Rakesh Pai Mumbai, India. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://piecesofrakesh.blogspot.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Help with box
I have a basic question. I am learning how to design a site with rounded corners. The test URL is below. I have a top and bottom graphic with a div box in between but am seeing whitespace under the top graphic. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.wildfiremediagroup.com/test.html -- Adam Boettiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] CSS Navigation: Unordered lists within unordered lists / scaling with increased fonts
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[css-d] forcing an element to the bottom of a cell?
Hi, On http://www.microcinemadvd.com/documentary/, I want to get the BROWSE ENTIRE STORE link (on the left side) to always end up just above the newsletter signup form. But on FF, the link always seems to end up in the middle of the page - on the first display of the page. If the page gets redrawn, the link goes to the bottom. this link is within a table cell and the table cell has vertical-align: bottom etc. the table and the div surrounding that left hand table have height:100% - I presumed that would stretch the table/div to the height of the main area but so what is the trick here? I can not put the link right above the form b/c that wouldn't work with how tables are used to structure the page. or a negative margin perhaps? Safari does not even do the right thing on a redraw I have no idea what it's like in IE but most of me just doesn't really care I bet this is something simple... I left this problem months ago and had to deal with other stuff thanks doug __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] New Image Replacement Method
Hi everyone, A few years back, I developed an image replacement method that I hope works in almost all situations. Going off Dave Shea's page (http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/), a good image replacement method will work with screen readers, work with 'images off, CSS on', not use empty span tags and work with most browsers. I believe my method does all this, but without having screen reading software or multiple browsers and platforms to test on, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind testing this method for me. Two slightly different methods can be found here: http://people.aapt.net.au/~joian/ir/test1.html http://people.aapt.net.au/~joian/ir/test2.html Please test these pages with different settings (images, CSS, JavaScript - on/off) and let me know how it goes. I'd be very interested in hearing suggestions for making it better, etc. My method may not work well (if at all), but this is what I'm trying to test. I'd very much like to be able to come up with a good, solid image replacement method that works for everyone in all situations - and I'll need your help to do it. Thank you very much! Kind regards, Peter Anderson. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] ie6 problem: nav list border visibility, positioning, tranparency
just launched a new site:
http://stormpetrel.us/black_swan_excerpt.htm
the XHTML 1.0 Strict DOCTYPE pages use inline 'tab' type list Navigation with
background images and hover/active states based upon Dan Cederholm mini-tabs
#nav
{
position: relative;
margin: 0 0 15px 0;
padding: 0 0 20px 30px;
border-bottom: 1px solid #9FB1BC;
}
all is well in ie7, FF, Safari etc but -
i added margin-top: -1px; to all a:* states to shift up background images 1px
to hide visible border-bottom for Mozilla on PC
but... now
border-bottom: 1px solid #9FB1BC is not visible in ie6 in region where #nav li
is present
if i do this
margin-top: -1px;
* margin-top: 0;
i think it /might/ make border-bottom visible in ie6 but not so in ie7?
(i work on a mac so do not see ie6 until i check on borrowed pc or $$
browsercam)
another thought is to change the background: #fff; used in the #nav container
[.navspace] to transparent
any thoughts/ideas/advice are appreciated; this is my first post!
Thank You!
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Re: [css-d] Help with box
Adam Boettiger wrote:
I have a basic question. I am learning how to design a site with
rounded corners. The test URL is below. I have a top and bottom
graphic with a div box in between but am seeing whitespace under the
top graphic. Any help would be appreciated.
http://www.wildfiremediagroup.com/test.html
images are inline elements by default, and will be given a space for
text-descenders.
Solution: turn those images into block-elements by adding...
.image {display: block;}
Block-elements are not centered by 'text-align: center' on body, so you
must place them in a wrapper-element and center that wrapper. Images
_should_ be inside a block-element anyway since you're using a Strict
doctype, so such a wrapper is a necessary element.
Note also that images are empty elements. They don't have closing tags.
This is wrong...
img class=image src=images/top.gif/img
This is correct closing of empty elements in XHTML 1.0...
img class=image src=images/top.gif alt= /
...with a space and a back-slash.
You should also have an alt-attribute. Leave that alt-attribute empty
since those images are purely decorative additions.
Check also the correct closing of the 'link' element in XHTML 1.0, which
also is an empty element.
Valid and working version of your test-page...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/test_07_3040.html
...and stylesheet...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/stylesheet.css
...with comments so you can study the vital parts.
(I vandalized your rounded corner images since they were too wide for
the design and the centering-method is changed. You may have to offset
your original images to the left by a couple of pixels (negative
margin-left) if you want to use them as is.)
regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Help with box
Adam Boettiger wrote:
I have a basic question. I am learning how to design a site with
rounded corners. The test URL is below. I have a top and bottom
graphic with a div box in between but am seeing whitespace under the
top graphic. Any help would be appreciated.
http://www.wildfiremediagroup.com/test.html
Another way of handling the box-- not better, just different than the
method already presented.
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
meta name=generator content=HTML Tidy for Linux/x86 (vers 1st
November 2002), see www.w3.org /
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titlewild fire mediagroup/title
style type=text/css
/*![CDATA[*/
body {
color: #000;
background-color: #fff;
font: 100% arial, sans-serif;
margin: 30px 0; padding: 0;
text-align:center;
}
h1 {
font-size: 190%;
margin: 0;
padding-top: 30px;
padding-bottom: 200px;
}
#container {
width: 760px;
color: #fff;
background-color: #0066ff;
margin: auto;
}
img {
display: block;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 0;
}
/*]]*/
/style
/head
body
img src=http://www.wildfiremediagroup.com/images/top.gif; alt= /
div id=container
h1Wildfire Media Group/h1
/div
img src=http://www.wildfiremediagroup.com/images/bottom.gif; alt= /
/body
/html
Best,
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