[css-d] Can't figure out this positioning...

2007-04-04 Thread Robert Lane
The example is here: http://tinyurl.com/3a4h6c

I have some simple divs - I just want the wrapper div to float 
centered horizontally in the browser window with some background color 
and either side and the top and bottom.  I was looking for 20px for the 
top background and the same at the bottom. I just don't seem to get this 
positioning. Why can't I get this to float centered with some background 
color above and below and centered horizontally?

The html is roughly:

body
div id=wrapper
div id=top_mast
 div id=logo
 img src=logo.jpg alt=PRA
 /div
 div id=logo_name
 img src=logo_name.jpg alt=PRA
 /div
/div

 div id=maincontent

 div id=group_shot
 img src=group.jpg alt=Friendly Staff
 /div

 div id=footer
 img src=canvas_group_r2_c2.jpg
 /div

 /div
/div
/body

The CSS I am trying to use is:

body {
 background-color: #67;
 margin: 0; padding: 0;
 font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
 font-size: 1em;
 color: Black;
 position: relative;
}

#wrapper { position: relative; top: 20px; width: 760px;
 margin: auto; margin-bottom: 100px;}
#top_mast { background-color: #80;
 background-image: 
url(../../../Assets/images/page_pics/maroon/Take2/topmast_bg.jpg);
 background-repeat: repeat-x;
 width: 760px; height: 144px;
 margin: auto;
 position: absolute;
   }
   #logo_name { position: absolute; left: 120px; top: 91px; z-index: 2000;}
   #logo { position: absolute; left: 10px; top: 8px; z-index: 1000;}
#maincontent {  position: absolute; top: 144px;
 width: 760px; margin: auto;
 background-color: #FFF;
 }
#group_shot { border: 1px solid green;  }
#footer {color: #FFF; font-size: small; height: 144px;
 background: 
url(../../../Assets/images/page_pics/maroon/Take2/foot_bg.jpg) repeat-x;
}
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Re: [css-d] Fixex/fluid column issues

2007-04-04 Thread Gate Wizard
Hello Daniel,

On 4/3/07, Daniel Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a page where the left column is the navigation with a fixed width
 in
 pixels, and the content to the right of it is fluid in its width. I tried
 following these guidelines:
 http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala31.html.

 Here is my URL: http://www.objectivedesigns.com/other/mcc/default1.htm.
 And the CSS:
 http://www.objectivedesigns.com/other/mcc/css/2col_leftNav1.css.

 The problem I'm having is that the content protrudes out to the right what
 seems to be the same amount of space that the navigation is taking up on
 the
 left. I simply want the content to extend to the right side of the browser
 window instead of out of the bounds of the window.


In your CSS you have:

div#content{
width: 100%;
background: #ddd;
margin-left: 200px;
}

removing width:100%;
will resolve your problem.
width + margin = total container size,
in this case it causes the content to extend 200 pixels past the right side
of the browser window.

Daniel Hammond
 2227 Dunseath Ave.
 Atlanta, GA 30318
 770-842-8817
 www.objectivedesigns.com


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Re: [css-d] IE overflow problems with horizontal scrolling gallery

2007-04-04 Thread Ingo Chao
charles wrote:
 ...
 
 http://www.spiritone.com/~charlesd/cecilia2/index.html
 
 ... IE 6 is painting the horizontal scrollbar in the correct place, but when 
 used, the content within the scrolling area doesn't move (the marker 
 moves, but the content does not).
 
 IE 7 does the same thing, but adds the extra feature of an additional 
 scrollbar at the bottom of the page, ignoring any overflow:hidden set in 
 the page.
 
 I've spent far too much time tossing hasLayout triggers around, applying 
 position:relative, and removing position:relative, all to no avail.


That's an interesting position:fixed simulation for IE ...


position:relative in #scrollholder

should make IE listen to reason.

Don't ask me which of the descendants really need their 
position:relative, and in what combination.

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] Can't figure out this positioning...

2007-04-04 Thread bill scheider
Hi Robert

The example is here: http://tinyurl.com/3a4h6c

I have some simple divs - I just want the wrapper div to float 
centered horizontally in the browser window with some background color 
nd either side and the top and bottom.  I was looking for 20px for the 
top background and the same at the bottom. I just don't seem to get this 
positioning. Why can't I get this to float centered with some background 
color above and below and centered horizontally?

Here are two links to articles that may help with a css solution. 

http://bluerobot.com/web/css/center2.html 
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/how-to-vertical-centering-with-css

I think I've also read about a js solution; someone else would have to help
with that. :-)

HTH,
Bill


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[css-d] Form and fieldset problems

2007-04-04 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All

The site is at:
http://theriveryouth.info/
http://theriveryouth.info/wp-content/themes/riveryouth/style.css

In the navcontainer the Go bit should be alongside the search box
but I can't get it to go there.

Any ideas please?

Thanks.
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Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him.
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Re: [css-d] Form and fieldset problems

2007-04-04 Thread James Leslie

The site is at:
http://theriveryouth.info/
http://theriveryouth.info/wp-content/themes/riveryouth/style.css

In the navcontainer the Go bit should be alongside the search box but
I can't get it to go there.



Because you are floating the form, if you float the fieldset and inputs
inside it, it should work (it does using FF web dev extension):

#navcontainer fieldset, #navcontainer input{
float:right;
}

Hope that helps
James
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Re: [css-d] Form and fieldset problems

2007-04-04 Thread Richard Brown
Hi James

On 04/04/07, James Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The site is at:
 http://theriveryouth.info/
 http://theriveryouth.info/wp-content/themes/riveryouth/style.css

 In the navcontainer the Go bit should be alongside the search box but
 I can't get it to go there.

 

 Because you are floating the form, if you float the fieldset and inputs
 inside it, it should work (it does using FF web dev extension):

 #navcontainer fieldset, #navcontainer input{
 float:right;
 }

 Hope that helps
Perfect thanks - it helped a lot.
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Re: [css-d] print problem

2007-04-04 Thread ejg502
Is your text contained in a float? There's an article on Alistapart which 
discusses this problem.

http://alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/

Hope that solves it.

Emma 


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Hi all,
I have a problem with printing this long page. It stops after the first page
is printed.
In the print.css the relevant divs and classes are set to overflow: visible.
What do I forget? Problem is in IE and FF.

http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/nieuws.html
http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/helma.css
http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/helmaprint.css

Thanks in advance,
J. Krant

www.arobase.nl


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[css-d] floated img not right in IE

2007-04-04 Thread Laura Gattoni
Hi,
I finally got a page to look the way I wanted in Firefox. Then opened
it in IE Win and the floated images are all over the place.

Here's the link:
http://www.lauragattonihandwovens.com/csstest/scarves.html


Also, if you can help, notice that my 3px double borders around the
photos are missing in IE. I  know I've got a border=0 and that is
because every img was showing up with a 1px purple border (I don't
know why). Also why is my copyright at the bottom not formatting?
(compare http://www.lauragattonihandwovens.com/csstest/logo.html).

Here's the css:
body {
  margin: 20px 40px 0 40px;
  padding: 0;
  background-color: white;
  color: black;
  background-image: url(wpscarf8copy.jpg);
  background-repeat: repeat-y;
  position: absolute;
  font-family: small Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
#bodybackground {
  background-color: white;
  color: black
}
#banner {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
}
#navlinks {
  font-weight: bold;
  font-size: .9em;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 3px 0 3px 275px;
  text-decoration: none;
  background-color: #A2A2D8;
  height: 1%;
}
#navlinks ul {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
}
#navlinks li {
  display: inline;
  padding: 3px;
}
#navlinks a:hover {
   color: white;
   font-style: italic;
}
#main {
  color: black;
  text-align: left;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 20px;
}
#thumbnail {
  margin: 40px 25px 0 0;
  padding: 35px;
  border: double white 3px;
  background-color: black;
  float: left;
}
p.spacing {
 margin-top: 45px;
 height: 1%;
}
#copyright {
   text-align: left;
   font-size: .8em;
   font-style: italic;
}

Let me know if you need more info. Thanks again!
--Laura
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Re: [css-d] print problem

2007-04-04 Thread Josine Krant
Thanks,
Replaced the floats by a position: relative.
This solved the problem in IE7, but not in Firefox.

Any more ideas?

Josine


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| Is your text contained in a float? There's an article on Alistapart which
| discusses this problem.
|
| http://alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/
|
| Hope that solves it.
|
| Emma
|
|
| Message: 5
| Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:54:08 +0200
| From: Josine Krant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: [css-d] print problem
| To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
| Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
|
| Hi all,
| I have a problem with printing this long page. It stops after the first 
page
| is printed.
| In the print.css the relevant divs and classes are set to overflow: 
visible.
| What do I forget? Problem is in IE and FF.
|
| http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/nieuws.html
| http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/helma.css
| http://www.helmawiersma.nl/nieuw2/helmaprint.css
|
| Thanks in advance,
| J. Krant
|
| www.arobase.nl
|
|
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Re: [css-d] floated img not right in IE

2007-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Laura Gattoni wrote:

 I finally got a page to look the way I wanted in Firefox. Then opened
  it in IE Win and the floated images are all over the place.

 http://www.lauragattonihandwovens.com/csstest/scarves.html

Try adding...

#thumbnail {clear: left;}

 Also, if you can help, notice that my 3px double borders around the 
 photos are missing in IE.

The borders are there, but double white borders are almost invisible
against white background in IE.

 I  know I've got a border=0 and that is because every img was showing
  up with a 1px purple border (I don't know why).

That's normal link-decoration for images in most browsers.

 Also why is my copyright at the bottom not formatting? (compare 
 http://www.lauragattonihandwovens.com/csstest/logo.html).

Might have something to do with the bad state of the source-code...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.lauragattonihandwovens.com/csstest/scarves.html

Browsers can't recover from every thinkable tag-soup meal, you know, and
you have some of the most non-standard element-nesting (in addition to
other flaws) I've seen in a long time.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Site check for formever.org (PNG Info for anyone interested)

2007-04-04 Thread Joe Schmitt
Hi Dave,

Started working on this before I saw your Completed message. I used a few
of your images to show how to display PNG files in IE 5-6. A filter needs to
be loaded in the IE browser to allow the transparency to work. I created a
page with an example and some links to further info.
http://www.joeschmittjr.com/css-d/07-03-29_SiteCheckForFormever.org/HomePage-reduced.htm
Hope someone finds it useful.
Joe

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Subject: [css-d] Site check for formever.org


 CSS-d,

 If any of you out there would be kind enough to tell me if you see any
 errors on your browser/platform, that would be really awesome. I've
 checked that my design validates.

 The design I'd like to test is here:
 http://formever.org/css_test

 I'm using FireFox on Ubuntu(Linux), and that's all I personally have for
 testing (well, I suppose I could check in Konqueror, but I'm more
 interested in Mac and Windows issues).

 Here's what it looks like for me:
 http://formever.org/firefox_linux.png

 To get corners and borders around the main content area, I'm using the
 Javascript solution from here:

http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/transparent_custom_corners_and_borders_version_2/

 This does use PNGs with transparency, which I could probably avoid. But,
 since the new IE is supposed to properly support PNG, and phase out the
 old versions, hopefully the time is ripe to start going in the direction
 of taking full advantage of PNGs.

 The design should be reasonably fluid. It breaks if you shrink the
 window horizontally to below somewhere around 300 to 400 pixels. And
 will break if you scale to somewhere above 2000 pixels wide.

 I'm trying to leave it open for most text to be resized up or down
 without too much destruction, but right now the two tabs above the main
 content area move out of place if the text size deviates from 1em (on my
 machine, anyway). Suggestions for how to cope with that are welcome.

 Thank you for any help, and I hope to hear from you.

 -- 
 Dave M G
 Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
 Kernel 2.6.20-5-generic
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Re: [css-d] IE7 Window Resize

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Gutberlet
Thanks, ~dL.  Not sure what the errors were.  Perhaps I was working on the
file at the time you checked it.  I ran Tidy as you suggested and got 22
warnings and 0 errors.  I addressed all of the warnings.

The div still does not move with the page in IE7 when I resize the browser
window.  As you can see, I attempted to use conditional comments and use the
min-width property to trigger Layout.  All of the websites I visited made it
seem so straightforward that I just feel like I have a typo somewhere.

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Mark Gutberlet wrote:
 I am sure I am overlooking something simple...[trimmed]
 The page is currently live at:
 http://www.rhcbuilds.com/home.php




The first place to begin with html/css problem solving is to provide
valid files to the list. Your css is valid. And that is all good. The
html  file has more than 100 errors.
The problem you wrote about probably has to do with accounting for ap in
IE. But,  first back-up what you've got. Run the source document through
Tidy http://infohound.net/tidy/ . Tidy will point out the errors, and
correct many of them. Correct the balance by hand. Bring valid files
back to the list for the remaining and unresolved issues you encounter.
(You'll need to account for user discretion with regard to font-scaling
as well. Even a hint of scaling will wreck your page now).

Best,
~dL

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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread Jim Nannery
Morning David

You Wrote


 Don - HtmlFixIt.com wrote:

 snipped a bit

 try it again if you would ... think I have it in ie6, 7 and ff
 http://htmlfixit.com/tutes/css/pipe_delimited_faux.html

 Forgot ie6 won't respect the first child ... but I think this might do
 it ...

 Nice job, Don. You are good to go in IE6 and IE7.

 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/ require
 images and works in all versions of IE including mac/IE5.2. If I have a
 choice I would prefer /not/ to hack IE7.0.
 For example, something like this
 http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html (the file folder
 tab is not a requirement, although it is charming :-) ). It is the look
 and feel I am after.

 Anyone?

 Regards,

 ~dL


In the referenced NY Times link above, they are physically inserting a pipe 
(as I'm sure you noted) between each end /a and the start of each new a 
in the html.

If you want that effect in IE 7 using Fat Erik's code, you need to switch to 
Quirks mode. A simple test page [1] using an incomplete Doctype shows what I 
mean.  This will, I'm sure, create other problems to overcome in a 
production page / site.

IE 7.0.5xx shows the pipes on my Win XP Pro SP2 Box.

hth

[1] http://www.nannery.net/atest.html

Jim Nannery
www.redfernenterprises.com

PScan't tell if this works on mac IE 5.2 can't test that OS / 
browser combo locally. and IIRC, mac IE isn't affected by Doctype 
switching Jim


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Re: [css-d] Wrapping data in table cells without whitespace

2007-04-04 Thread David Hucklesby
 On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 01:46:33 + (UTC), John Wells wrote:
 Guys,

 Is there a way to wrap data in table cells, even though there is no 
 whitespace in
 that data to break?

[...]
 On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, David Hucklesby replied:
  

 Hi John,
 I don't know if this works in table cells, as I have little experience with 
 tables.
 But if this is only happening in IE, I suggest trying the IE special 
 declaration:
 word-wrap:break-word;


On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:45:05 +0300 (EEST), Jukka K. Korpela helpfully added: 

 I don't think the problem is IE-specific, since other browsers are a little 
 _less_
 inclined into breaking strings with no whitespace.

 [...]
 Besides, breaking at an arbitrary character isn't suitable for URLs in 
 general. There
 are specific recommendations (e.g., in the Chicago Manual of Style) where a 
 URL should
 be broken when needed. The practical way to do so is to add wbr tags at the 
 allowable
 break points; of course, this is a non-CSS and nonstandard approach, but it's 
 the only
 one that really works. More info on this:
 http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/nobr.html#suggest

~~~

Thank you for this useful information, Jukka.

I was thinking of situations where a long text string simply extends 
beyond the confines of its container. It's only IE that pushes the 
container wider.

But now I come to think of it, a table cell will likely expand in 
non-IE browsers as well. So glad you corrected me on this.

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jim Nannery wrote:

 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/ require
 images and works in all versions of IE including mac/IE5.2. If I have a
 choice I would prefer /not/ to hack IE7.0.
 For example, something like this
 http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html (the file folder
 tab is not a requirement, although it is charming :-) ). It is the look
 and feel I am after.

 Anyone?

 Regards,

 ~dL


 In the referenced NY Times link above, they are physically inserting a 
 pipe (as I'm sure you noted) between each end /a and the start of 
 each new a in the html.

 If you want that effect in IE 7 using Fat Erik's code, you need to 
 switch to Quirks mode. A simple test page [1] using an incomplete 
 Doctype shows what I mean.  This will, I'm sure, create other problems 
 to overcome in a production page / site.

 IE 7.0.5xx shows the pipes on my Win XP Pro SP2 Box.

 hth

 [1] http://www.nannery.net/atest.html

 Jim Nannery



While the page in quirks for IE7.0 does bring up poor Fat Erik's 
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal32.htm pipes, it does 
not a pretty picture make in my book. I think I'll pass on this option.
Nevertheless, /thank you/ for your time in checking this out, Jim.
 Best,

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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread Don - HtmlFixIt.com
~davidLaakso wrote:
 Jim Nannery wrote:
 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/ require
 images and works in all versions of IE including mac/IE5.2. If I have a
 choice I would prefer /not/ to hack IE7.0.
 For example, something like this
 http://www.nytimes.com/pages/todayspaper/index.html (the file folder
 tab is not a requirement, although it is charming :-) ). It is the look
 and feel I am after.

 Anyone?

 Regards,

Okay David,

Version 2 of my faux pipe delimited unordered list menu [1] has one less 
hack in it (no ie6 hack) and appears to work fine in win ie6, ie7 and 
ff.  I don't do mac often :-)

The trade off?  Well I class the first li and create a border-left: 0 
rule for that classed li.  Better?  Worse?

The beauty of the tabs in the NYT example is obviously that it works for 
all tabs because they have both left and right dividers.  They also 
special class the active tab.  They do not use pipes on the tabbed menu 
that I think you referred to.  They did down lower in the jump to, that 
confused me at first as well until I grasped what you were referring to.

I await colorful screen shots on the Mac 5.x platform :-)

Don

[1] Version 2: 
http://htmlfixit.com/tutes/tutorial_CSS_Generated_Faux_Pipe_Delimited_Unordered_List.php


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Re: [css-d] A little layout advice please...

2007-04-04 Thread Les Mizzell
  Perhaps Layout Gala has something you could adapt?
  http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/


Hmmm - but liquid layouts (the ones I've seen and worked with) are 
dependent on the browser window width, and that's not what needs to 
happen here. This needs to be *fixed* as far as the browser is 
concerned, but be liquid from *inside* the layout itself, depending on 
content.

Here's a GIF:
http://www.columbiacityjazz.com/PICS/page_layout.gif

The Recent Items table has to be expandable beyond the current width 
if needed, and when that happens, the entire layout has to expand to the 
right with it.

In a simplified form, let's say the default width for the entire 
layout is 800px with the left column fixed at 200px and the right column 
at 600px.

But, a 700px image is pulled into the Recent Items right column. The 
column now needs to expand for the image to fit, and when it does, it 
needs to push the master DIV wider to accomodate as well. So our layout 
expands to 950px wide.

Resizing the browser window width should have no effect in either case.


Ideas?

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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread ~davidLaakso
Don - HtmlFixIt.com wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:

 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/ require
 images and works in all versions of IE including mac/IE5.2. If I 
 have a
 choice I would prefer /not/ to hack IE7.0.
 [trimmed]

 Okay David,

 Version 2 of my faux pipe delimited unordered list menu [1] has one 
 less hack in it (no ie6 hack) and appears to work fine in win ie6, ie7 
 and ff.  I don't do mac often :-)


 Don

 [1] Version 2: 
 http://htmlfixit.com/tutes/tutorial_CSS_Generated_Faux_Pipe_Delimited_Unordered_List.php
  




Nine captures http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337404
No pipes: IE5.0/Win2000
Pipes appear but not in correct place (s): Mac/IE5.2
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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread Bruno Fassino
David Laakso wrote:
 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/
 require images and works in all versions of IE including
 mac/IE5.2. If I have a choice I would prefer /not/ to hack
 IE7.0.

David,

I had some (now old) horizontal list tests not using inline elements but
floats, exactly to overcome the problems that you are seeing now in IE
5.01/Win (missing borders), and maybe other problems in IE5/Mac. Some have
extra hacks to simulate a min-width.

I have now slightly revised them [1], have a look if you like. I'm sure you
will find they are broken in some conditions :-))

Bruno

[1] http://brunildo.org/test/NavBar8.php

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Re: [css-d] A little layout advice please...

2007-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Les Mizzell wrote:
 Hmmm - but liquid layouts (the ones I've seen and worked with) are 
 dependent on the browser window width, and that's not what needs to 
 happen here. This needs to be *fixed* as far as the browser is 
 concerned, but be liquid from *inside* the layout itself, depending on 
 content.

Sounds like a whole bunch of contradictions - or a table-based design, 
so maybe a monstrosity like this will do...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_10.html

regards
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[css-d] stairstep listings in IE7 need a fix!

2007-04-04 Thread Melinda Odom
Hi,

I am trying to do a new menu here using a definition list:
http://www.usprayercenter.org/test_new_list.html

It looks fine in Mozilla and Netscape but the main links are stairstepping
in IE7.  I don't know what it looks like in other browsers so if someone can
give me some feedback on other browsers I would appreciate it.

How would I fix this for IE7?

Sincerely,
Melinda Odom
Design Hosting, Inc.
www.designhosting.biz
479-471-0891



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[css-d] horizontal scroll bar in Opera

2007-04-04 Thread Mauricio Samy Silva
Hi all,
The document is valid XHTML and CSS and is hosted at: 
http://www.clickmaujor.com/tiradentes/index.html
Everything goes fine in FireFox - IE 5.5  6 - (IE7 not tested yet, but would 
appreciate a report). All under Windows
Things go wrong with Opera 9. 
I'm having an unnecessary horizontal scrollbar
and it seems that the problem comes from the 
following CSS:

#principal { 
 margin-bottom:20px; 
 margin-right:22px; /* === Fix Opera - Comment this CSS declaration
 and the horizontal scrollbar  disappear but the layout broke */
 width:580px;
 min-height:307px;
...
}

It would be great to have a way to get rid of the horizontal scrollbar in Opera.
Appreciate any help and thanks

Maurício Samy Silva
http://www.maujor.com/ 


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Re: [css-d] A little layout advice please...

2007-04-04 Thread Les Mizzell

 Sounds like a whole bunch of contradictions 

It is, that's part of the problem!

I'm tempted to say Can't be done exactly the way you wish...
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[css-d] Bug with extra space from clears. New?

2007-04-04 Thread Brandon Oto
Hi all,

I was helping a friend solve a problem just now and was able to  
isolate a bug that's caused by a clear:left or clear:both on an  
element; the first div in a series ends up with a bunch of extra  
whitespace (several lines) before the cleared element, but the rest  
of the divs are fine. This is in Safari, Firefox, Opera, not in IE6  
or 7 on Win.

clear: right has no such problems and using it was how I resolved his  
layout.

Has anyone seen this bug before? If not, I can throw together a quick  
isolated test case for the general edification.

Cheers,

- Brandon
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[css-d] The footer

2007-04-04 Thread John M Shepard
The footer on my subpages stays at the top

Go to:  http://mypracticesite.com/aboutmontessori.htm

Any help will be most appreciated.

PS- placement of headers I am still working on.

Thanks. John Shepard
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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread ~davidLaakso
Bruno Fassino wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
   
 I am seeking a pipe menu, or a border menu that does /not/
 require images and works in all versions of IE including
 mac/IE5.2. If I have a choice I would prefer /not/ to hack
 IE7.0.
 

 David,

 I had some (now old) horizontal list tests not using inline elements but
 floats, exactly to overcome the problems that you are seeing now in IE
 5.01/Win (missing borders), and maybe other problems in IE5/Mac. Some have
 extra hacks to simulate a min-width.

 I have now slightly revised them [1], have a look if you like. I'm sure you
 will find they are broken in some conditions :-))

 Bruno

 [1] http://brunildo.org/test/NavBar8.php


   


Absolutely superb! All of them. Looking good in /all/ versions of IE, 
including IE/Mac.

Captures for the curious:
NavBar8
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337457
NavBar3
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337462
NavBar5
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337465
NavBar6
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337468
NavBar7
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=337473

Thank you, Bruno!

Best,
~dL






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Re: [css-d] Bug with extra space from clears. New?

2007-04-04 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Brandon Oto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was helping a friend solve a problem just now and was able to  
isolate a bug that's caused by a clear:left or clear:both on an  
element; the first div in a series ends up with a bunch of extra  
whitespace (several lines) before the cleared element, but the rest  
of the divs are fine. This is in Safari, Firefox, Opera, not in IE6  
or 7 on Win.

clear: right has no such problems and using it was how I resolved his  
layout.

Has anyone seen this bug before? If not, I can throw together a quick  
isolated test case for the general edification.

Ah, Brandon!

Welcome (back). It's nice to see that an old regular will still drop by now 
and then. 

I'm sure someone's seen this before, there are many here smarter and more 
observant than me, but a test case would be welcome anyway. Yes, it helps with 
the general edification, definitely.

Cheers!

~holly 
 
   
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Re: [css-d] Selectors to cover wide range of IDs for Firefox

2007-04-04 Thread Devon Miller
On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a long shot...in the dark, but here goes:

 I have a td that has an ID on it, it is part of a Content Management
 System.  Every time a new template is created in the CMS the td's ID
 changes to a different value.

 template one: td id=lc110text here/td
 template two: td id=lc111text here/td
 template two: td id=lc113text here/td

 My question is; is it possible to specify a CSS 2.1 or 3.1 selector that
 can cover a range of values?  I only need this to work in Firefox, so
 compatibility with IE is not an issue.

 I've poked around on:
 http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200601/css_3_selectors_explained/

 This looks close:
 Substring matching attribute selector
 E[att^=val]
 Matches any E element whose att attribute value begins with val.

 The only problem is that there are other TDs that have IDs that begin with
 lc that I do not want to target.

 Any ideas?  This is an attempt at a quick fix solution that only needs to
 work for Firefox.

If you can list all the possible values of 'id' , then this should work:

TD[id~=lc110 lc111 lc113]

This will match any TD where the id is lc110, lc111, or lc113.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#q10

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Re: [css-d] Selectors to cover wide range of IDs for Firefox

2007-04-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a td that has an ID on it, it is part of a Content Management
 System.  Every time a new template is created in the CMS the td's ID
 changes to a different value.

 template one: td id=lc110text here/td
 template two: td id=lc111text here/td
 template two: td id=lc113text here/td

 ...
 This looks close:
 Substring matching attribute selector
 E[att^=”val”]
 Matches any E element whose att attribute value begins with “val”.

Yes that is what you want to use

 The only problem is that there are other TDs that have IDs that  
 begin with
 lc that I do not want to target.
How do you select those that you don't want to target. Do they get a  
class appended?
If yes, it is easy:
td[id^=lc]:not([class=bou]) {color:#fff; background:lime}
/* works in Gecko, Safar/WebKit/Konqueror */

or
td[id^=lc] {color:#fff; background:lime}
td.bou {color:#000; background:#fcf;}
/* works also in Opera and IE 7 */
sample:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/tmp-h190405.html

If no class on td available, it becomes more difficult.
If you happen to know a range of numbers for those ID's, possibly  
something like
td[id^=lc]:not([id^=lc3]) /* omit all those that start with lc3 */


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Re: [css-d] Pipe List

2007-04-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Bruno Fassino wrote:

 I had some (now old) horizontal list tests not using inline  
 elements but
 floats, exactly to overcome the problems that you are seeing now in IE
 5.01/Win (missing borders), and maybe other problems in IE5/Mac.  
 Some have
 extra hacks to simulate a min-width.

 I have now slightly revised them [1], have a look if you like. I'm  
 sure you
 will find they are broken in some conditions :-))

 Bruno

 [1] http://brunildo.org/test/NavBar8.php

You could of course minimise on hacking and use display:inline-block  
for everybody. Then use display:-moz-inline-box for Gecko =1.8 (up  
to Firefox 2.0 -  Gecko1.9alpha, FX 3.0alpha support inline-block  
pretty well) if needed (more often than not, I don't really need it).
IE 5.0 may need a little kick in the pants.

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