[css-d] Navigation

2007-05-25 Thread trevor bayliss
Hello everyone I am new!
   I am having problems with the last tab on a navigation bar. For some reason 
I can´t make it fit with the light blue line above it and I am stuck as to how 
to do it. Also the navigation bar doesn´t show up in Netscape 4.78 (no Flash) 
with Windows 2000 Professional and the thing just goes crazy with Explorer 4.0 
(no Flash) Windows 98. I imagine that the problem is that they are too old so I 
won´t worry that much about them. What can I do to make the navigation line up? 
Thanks 
 
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd;
HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
STYLE type=text/css
UL {
 LIST-STYLE-TYPE: none
}
LI {
 LIST-STYLE-TYPE: none
}
A {
 COLOR: #7f99ae; TEXT-DECORATION: none
}
#topnav {
 BORDER-TOP: #d8e1e9 4px solid; MARGIN: 9px 0px 0px
}
#topnav LI.l {
 WIDTH: 20px
}
#topnav LI {
 DISPLAY: inline; BACKGROUND: #849eb3 no-repeat left top; FLOAT: left; WIDTH: 
85px; HEIGHT: auto
}
#topnav LI SPAN.last-tab {
 DISPLAY: inline; BACKGROUND: #849eb3 no-repeat left top; FLOAT: left; WIDTH: 
80px; HEIGHT: auto
 }
#topnav A {
 BORDER-RIGHT: #d8e1e9 1px solid; DISPLAY: block; BACKGROUND: no-repeat left 
top; FONT: 11px/20px tahoma, arial; WIDTH: 85px; COLOR: #fff; TEXT-ALIGN: center
}
#topnav A:hover {
 BACKGROUND: #fcda2e no-repeat left top; TEXT-DECORATION: none
}
#topnav A.selected {
 BACKGROUND: #fcda2e no-repeat left top; TEXT-DECORATION: none
}
#width {
 MARGIN-LEFT: auto; WIDTH: 882px; MARGIN-RIGHT: auto; TEXT-ALIGN: left
}
/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY id=body
DIV id=width
UL class=clearfix id=topnav
  LIA title= href=index.cfmHome /A/LI
  LIA title= href=About/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Shops/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Entertainment/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Malls/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Environment/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Local/A /LI
  LIA title= href=Information/A/LI
  LIA title= href=Contact Us/A /LI
  LI class=lA href=Login/A/LI
/UL/div


   
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[css-d] How to view someone else's CSS source?

2007-05-25 Thread Forafo San
I'm new to CSS, but enjoying the CSS paradigm tremendously. While it's
easy to view the HTML source behind any webpage, how does one view the
CSS markup in external style sheets that renders the page?

If there are no built-in tools in browsers that allow you to view the
CSS source, what about, say, a Perl or Python script that allows it?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [css-d] How to view someone else's CSS source?

2007-05-25 Thread Rory Fitzpatrick
On 25/05/07, Jukka K. Korpela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 24 May 2007, Forafo San wrote:

  I'm new to CSS, but enjoying the CSS paradigm tremendously. While it's
  easy to view the HTML source behind any webpage, how does one view the
  CSS markup in external style sheets that renders the page?

 That's rather awkward, so if possible, download and install the Web
 Developer Extensions to Firefox, from

 http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper

 It's a great tool that lets you study (and modify) many aspects of a
 document. Select CSS/View CSS (or ) to see the stylesheets.

I'd also get the Firebug extension, it allows you to select an element
on the page and view its current style attributes (including those set
by javascript)oh and it does a few other things as well ;-)

http://www.getfirebug.com
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Re: [css-d] Centering a floating list.

2007-05-25 Thread Melianor
Hi, sorry i see now what you are trying to do, by wanting to center
the list itself as well.

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
titleUntitled Document/title
style type=text/css
.mpl {
float:left;
display: block;
text-align:center;
font-size:0.9em;
padding-right:1em;
}
.mpl strong {
font-size:1.3em;
display:block;
}
.last {
padding:0;
}
/style
/head
body
div style=margin:0 auto; text-align:center; class=list
div style=display:block; text-align:center;strongCenter |
Center/strong/div
ul style=width:350px; margin: 0 auto; border: 1px solid black;
li class=mpl1 - 14br /strong$6.62/strong/li
li class=mpl15 - 49br /strong$5.00/strong/li
li class=mpl50 - 199br /strong$3.76/strong/li
li class=mpl last200+br /strong$3.38/strong/li
/ul
/div
/body
/html

I added some code to the listing actually, just margin: 0 auto and a
border to see how far the list reaches out. This displays centered in
IE7,IE6,FF,Safari,Opera.

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Re: [css-d] How to view someone else's CSS source?

2007-05-25 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Forafo San wrote:

 I'm new to CSS, but enjoying the CSS paradigm tremendously. While it's
 easy to view the HTML source behind any webpage, how does one view the
 CSS markup in external style sheets that renders the page?

You could view the HTML source, find the referring link elements, pick 
up the URLs, and convert them to absolute URLs, then write the URLs in the 
browser's address line.

That's rather awkward, so if possible, download and install the Web 
Developer Extensions to Firefox, from

http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper

It's a great tool that lets you study (and modify) many aspects of a 
document. Select CSS/View CSS (or ) to see the stylesheets.

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[css-d] Styling OL

2007-05-25 Thread Joanne
I have an ordered list, and I want to style the numbers differently to the
text. Is this possible?

Ie: I want the numbers large and blue, and the text to be small and black.

Joanne
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Re: [css-d] Styling OL

2007-05-25 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Fri, 25 May 2007, Joanne wrote:

 I have an ordered list, and I want to style the numbers differently to the
 text. Is this possible?

 Ie: I want the numbers large and blue, and the text to be small and black.

I'm afraid there is no direct way to achieve that, since the numbers are 
effectively treated as anonymous parts of li elements, as far as styling 
is considered.

However, this implies that you can circumvent the restriction by adding 
extra markup for li contents. For example, if you write

lidiv class=lilist item contents/div/li

instead of the natural lilist item contents/li, you can set e.g.

li { font-size: large; color: blue; blackground: white; }
.li { font-size: medium; color: black; blackground: white; }

That is, the properties that you want for the numbers are assigned to the 
li elements but overridden for the element that contains the list item 
proper. Note: if you set the font-sizes using % or em, remember the 
cumulative effect. For example, if you set font-size: 150% for li, you 
need to set font-size: 66.67% for .li in order to make the list item 
content appear in normal (medium) font size.

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Re: [css-d] Conditional Statement

2007-05-25 Thread James Gadrow
Ingo Chao wrote:
 david wrote:
   
 James Gadrow wrote:
 
   david wrote:
   
 Vicki Stebbins wrote:
   
 
 ...
 !--[if lt IE 7]
 
   
 Hmmm, that's saying If you're IE version LESS THAN 7, pay attention to 
 this style. So IE6, IE5.5, IE5 are all seeing that style - while IE7 is 
 NOT.

 
 What david's trying to say is use !--[if IE7] instead :p the 'lt' 
 stand for 'less than' as david pointed out.
   
 Thanks, I couldn't remember the CC to target only IE7. #-/

 

 There has to be a blank between IE and the version number.

 !--[if IE 7]

 ![endif]--

 http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512.aspx


 Ingo
   
D'oh! Didn't even realize that my space obviously didn't register. 
Thanks for pointing it out Ingo! Could have frustrated the OP to no end :)

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[css-d] Got It! - png fix

2007-05-25 Thread Kirsten Rourke
I found a website with an easy version of the IS png fix
 http://bjorkoy.com/past/2007/4/8/the_easiest_way_to_png/ - an easy 
interpretation

That site sent me to the originators site...
http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ 

..and I used one of the versions he suggested (below). The only other thing 
needed was a blank gif and an .htc file which both of which he was nice enough 
to offer on download.

*{ behavior: url(iepngfix.htc); }
Kirsten
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Re: [css-d] Centering a floating list.

2007-05-25 Thread Jon Hughes
I'm not sure if we still have a misunderstanding or if you pasted the
wrong code, but that didn't work :)

Basically, the numbers should be centered to the | which is in Center
| Center

Right now, it's shifted way over to the left, in FF and IE7.


-Original Message-
From: Melianor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:00 AM
To: Jon Hughes

Hi, sorry i see now what you are trying to do, by wanting to center
the list itself as well.

[[ code ]]

I added some code to the listing actually, just margin: 0 auto and a
border to see how far the list reaches out. This displays centered in
IE7,IE6,FF,Safari,Opera.
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[css-d] Overflow bug?

2007-05-25 Thread Martin Paton
Hi
 
I've got a flash movie as a header in my three column container layout
which I want to set overflow:hidden when the page is resized so it
doesn't blow out of the side of the page. 
 
I've set overflow:hidden on all containers that the flash movie would
push past - it works superbly in all IE versions, but not in
Firefox/Opera/NS, etc...
 
Is there a known problem with overflow:hidden?
 
Thanks


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[css-d] How to center the entire page

2007-05-25 Thread jana coyle
I am looking to have my page evenly centered on the screen.  It is currently on 
the left side of the screen. Here is the link to my site 
http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/help1.html  I would like it to have two 
even spaces on both sides of the page, here is an example 
http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/sample.gif  Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: [css-d] Different ways of doing the same thing

2007-05-25 Thread James Gadrow
Les Mizzell wrote:
 It's always interesting to look at other folks stuff. I just inherited a 
 site, and in looking at their CSS, the main div is listed thusly:

 #pageWrapper {
width:760px;
position:absolute;
left:50%;
margin-left:-380px; }


 Where I would have just done:

 #pageWrapper {
width:760px;
margin: 0 auto 0 auto;  }


 Any advantage of doing it the first way?
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Well, it won't confuse a browser that won't center with margin: auto 
(such as IE 7 in quirks mode). And for some reason they're taking the 
page out of the normal flow so maybe they had a reason for that? Other 
than that, I can suggest that you could also do it as:

#pageWrapper {
width: 760px;
margin: 0 auto; }

Which saves a few more bytes of data which means faster download times 
for your clients, sure not by much, but each optimization is still an 
improvement :)

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Re: [css-d] How to view someone else's CSS source?

2007-05-25 Thread Andy Hey
 I'm new to CSS, but enjoying the CSS paradigm tremendously. While it's
 easy to view the HTML source behind any webpage, how does one view the
 CSS markup in external style sheets that renders the page?
 
 If there are no built-in tools in browsers that allow you to view the
 CSS source, what about, say, a Perl or Python script that allows it?
 
 Thanks in advance.

My first post to the list and hopefully a helpful one.

Its a good question and one I personally haven't found a really elegant
solution for!

I tend to use FF and the Web Developer Toolbar extension
(http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/) which allows you to View CSS
or indeed edit the CSS live through its CSS menu.

Alternatively I view source of the page find the style sheet declaration and
then append that to the URL of the page this normally serves up the plain
text CSS file.

The toolbar is far the simplest way but offers no code highlighting etc not
a problem for some but I'm a sucker for a bit of highlighting!

HTH

Andy


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[css-d] Different ways of doing the same thing

2007-05-25 Thread Les Mizzell
It's always interesting to look at other folks stuff. I just inherited a 
site, and in looking at their CSS, the main div is listed thusly:

#pageWrapper {
   width:760px;
   position:absolute;
   left:50%;
   margin-left:-380px; }


Where I would have just done:

#pageWrapper {
   width:760px;
   margin: 0 auto 0 auto;  }


Any advantage of doing it the first way?
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Re: [css-d] Different ways of doing the same thing

2007-05-25 Thread Craig Cook
 #pageWrapper {
width:760px;
position:absolute;
left:50%;
margin-left:-380px; }


 Where I would have just done:

 #pageWrapper {
width:760px;
margin: 0 auto 0 auto;  }

Without seeing the rest of the page or style sheet, my first guess
would be they were attempting to center the div in IE5 and IE6 in
quirks mode, which don't calculate the auto value for margins. Or if
there was some other reason the wrapper needed to be removed from the
normal flow by positioning it, if it needed to overlap other elements
for example.

But it's also just as likely that whoever authored that rule simply
didn't know about margin: 0 auto;

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Re: [css-d] How to center the entire page

2007-05-25 Thread James Gadrow
jana coyle wrote:
 I am looking to have my page evenly centered on the screen.  It is currently 
 on the left side of the screen. Here is the link to my site 
 http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/help1.html  I would like it to have 
 two even spaces on both sides of the page, here is an example 
 http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/sample.gif  Any help would be great.

 Thanks,
 Kevin
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Here's a link that's short and to the point:

http://bluerobot.com/web/css/center1.html

HTH!

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[css-d] Column Alignment in IE6

2007-05-25 Thread Ian Young
Hi List

TGIF. Hope your week has been better than mine.

This page which has three columns (original design is different on every
page). Aligns on FF and IE7 vertically with the grey spacer at the top right
but on IE6 it is aligned about 10px to the left. In addition, in FF the
aboutr div is dropping below the centre col.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Ian

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[css-d] IE7 changes size of div

2007-05-25 Thread Stephan Schindler
I have a problem with IE7 rendering the code below differently.

Please take a look at image files illustrating the issue at 
http://www.flickr.com/groups/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Here is my CSS


form input.submit {
  padding:3px 8px;
  border:1px dotted #787860;
  vertical-align:middle;
  background:#EDEDD5;
  color:#787860;
  font:bold 80%/1.3em Verdana,Sans-serif;
  text-transform:uppercase;
  cursor:pointer;
  }
 
p input.submit {
font-size:100%;
vertical-align:middle;
}

Any ideas how I can make the submit button appear in IE7 just like it 
does in FireFox?

Thanks a bunch for any help!
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[css-d] Background image in IE 7 and IE 6 not displaying.

2007-05-25 Thread David Merwin
I am having the hardest time getting a background image to display in  
a project I am working on. The image in question is a gray divider  
line to the right of the left sidebar. I have tried everything I can  
think of and I have searched everywhere to try and find a solution to  
the issue. I am missing something, but I just can't see what.

You can see the code here: http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/

The CSS is here: http://orcas.purebluedesign.com/Step2/css/ 
sp_default.css

ANY suggestion is welcome at this point.

Thanks.

The document can be seen at:
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Re: [css-d] Different ways of doing the same thing

2007-05-25 Thread Ernie Finlay


Hi Liz, I think the code you looked at centers the wrapper...,I'm not sure 
that your code does that.

Ernie.


From: Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Different ways of doing the same thing
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:30:13 -0400

It's always interesting to look at other folks stuff. I just inherited a
site, and in looking at their CSS, the main div is listed thusly:

#pageWrapper {
   width:760px;
   position:absolute;
   left:50%;
   margin-left:-380px; }


Where I would have just done:

#pageWrapper {
   width:760px;
   margin: 0 auto 0 auto;  }


Any advantage of doing it the first way?
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