Re: [css-d] Alternative Menu suggestions to the Suckerfish

2007-09-26 Thread Richard Brown
Hi

On 22/09/2007, Alan Gresley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 21/09/2007, David Laakso wrote:
Could you please check the following menu in IE6 and 7? I am told the
menu is not behaving correctly.
http://theriverchurch.info/
 

 Before you rush off delving into more CSS menus, the current problem in IE7 
 (sticky hover bug) is easy fixed by.

 #nav li:hover {background-position: 0 0;}

 For the reason why it happens or other fixes please visit.

 http://css-class.com/articles/explorer/sticky/index.htm

 Other CSS menus can be google with these keywords CSS dropdown menu. Quite 
 similar but quite different from the suckerfish is this menu.

 http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/index.htm

I've been away for a few days and haven't seent he huge response. Many
thanks to all who have helped. I will be reading replies and looking
into the sticky over the next few days. I will post a url to show the
fix. Once again my huge thanks for the replies.
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[css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Marcos
Hi all,

I'm primarily a web component developer and now I'm performing two roles 
(developer/designer)
and one doubt always remain in my mind  Should I use tables to 
layout form components such
as combos, textboxes and so on ?

I think the Css approach for forms very difficult to implement for 
complex forms :-(

Thank you very much
Marcos
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Re: [css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Marcos wrote:

 Should I use tables to layout form components such
 as combos, textboxes and so on ?

Please check the list archives. This has been discussed several times. 
Basically, you can use tables if you like (and you can then do all the 
styling of a table in CSS, except for the basic tabular presentation), or 
you can use different CSS techniques. The details strongly depend on the 
specific form and desired formatting.

 I think the Css approach for forms very difficult to implement for
 complex forms :-(

Complex forms are generally difficult, and both for usability and for 
styling, it might be a good idea to consider dividing them into pieces 
(several pages).

But there's nothing particularly complex in the idea of making a form field 
label a floated element, so that comparable labels have the same width 
assigned to them. The appearance then almost automatically becomes tabular.

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[css-d] centering a horizontally styled ul

2007-09-26 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all,

I'm putting together a little backend control site for a company's
manipulation of their customer email list.

http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/test.php
un: test
pw: test
css: http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/adminstyles.css

Layout wise, I'm struggling to get the bottom nav centered, and haven't
been able to get that positioning even though I've /margin: auto;/ where
I thought it needed to go.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA and Best Regards,
~Ray

PS  This page and it's 'family of like pages' will be password protected
and only used by the client's admin people.
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Re: [css-d] centering a horizontally styled ul [SOLVED]

2007-09-26 Thread Ray Leventhal
 On 26/9/07 14:54, Ray Leventhal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm putting together a little backend control site for a company's
  manipulation of their customer email list.
 
  http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/test.php
  un: test
  pw: test
  css: http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/adminstyles.css
 
  Layout wise, I'm struggling to get the bottom nav centered, and
haven't
  been able to get that positioning even though I've /margin: auto;/
where
  I thought it needed to go.
 
  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
  TIA and Best Regards,
  ~Ray
 
  PS  This page and it's 'family of like pages' will be password
protected
  and only used by the client's admin people.
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Phil Holt wrote:
  Try adding .nav after the id:
 
  #bottom_nav .nav
 
  This does it for me in FF.
 
  Phil
 
Thanks for the lightening fast reply...AND the solution  :)

Much much much appreciated.

~Ray

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Re: [css-d] centering a horizontally styled ul

2007-09-26 Thread Ray Leventhal
Karen Healey wrote:
 I'm putting together a little backend control site for a company's
 manipulation of their customer email list.

 http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/test.php
 un: test
 pw: test
 css: http://www.cprtools.net/adminemail/adminstyles.css

 Layout wise, I'm struggling to get the bottom nav centered, and haven't
 been able to get that positioning even though I've /margin: auto;/ where
 I thought it needed to go.

 
 Zero out the padding on the ul and the nav will center.
 
 adminstyles.css (line 71)
 
 ul.nav
 padding:0px;
 text-align:center;
 }
 

Hi Karen,

Thank you for your reply :)

I'll play with your (and Phil's) solution to see what's most efficient.

I do appreciate your input!

Best regards,
~Ray
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[css-d] Float Problem in IE6

2007-09-26 Thread Lyn Williams
I'm having problem with a some floats on IE6. Could someone checkout  
the following page and let me know exactly what is wrong.

http://www.ragonline.co.uk/main/
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Re: [css-d] Float Problem in IE6

2007-09-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Williams wrote:
 I'm having problem with a some floats on IE6. Could someone checkout
  the following page and let me know exactly what is wrong.
 
 http://www.ragonline.co.uk/main/

Some content, or residue from IE's white-space bug, is pushing
mainrightcol from the inside, and IE6 by default doesn't respect
declared dimensions - making mainrightcol too wide.

You can add...

#mainrightcol {overflow-x: hidden;}

...to eliminate IE6' auto-expansion bug and thereby prevent the float
drop.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Jason Das
 I think the Css approach for forms very difficult to implement for
 complex forms :-(

Sometimes difficult things are worth doing anyway. Once you do a few,  
it gets easier! Complex sets of nested tables are pretty hard, too,  
as I recall.

I highly recommend writing out forms in very clear and correct html,  
use label and fieldset where it makes sense, make everything as  
accessible as possible. Once you have a perfect unformatted html  
form, then go in and start styling. In the end, you'll have cleaner  
code and a much more useable (and updateable and copyable) form.

FWIW, As far as I'm aware, the only thing tables can do for layout  
that you can't do with css is  liquid equal hight columns.

best,
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Re: [css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Marcos wrote:
 I'm primarily a web component developer and now I'm performing two roles 
 (developer/designer)
 and one doubt always remain in my mind  Should I use tables to 
 layout form components such
 as combos, textboxes and so on ?

 I think the Css approach for forms very difficult to implement for 
 complex forms :-(
   

Marcos,

I don't think tables make sense unless you have a form where no 
checkboxes or radio buttons, and since I never have forms like this, I 
never use tables to lay out forms. Some good semantic list markup makes 
styling even complex forms not too difficult. This is a great tutorial 
describing one approach:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/fancy-form-design-css

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Displaying Applicable Styles on Element Mouse Over

2007-09-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Sasha H wrote:
 I would like to know if there is a means of writing JavaScript that will
 dynamically display the styles which are currently applied to any DOM
 element on a web page (i.e., those applied by ID, those applied by class,
 etc.) as the user moves their mouse over them.
   

Sasha,

I suggest you take this question to a list that deals with JavaScript in 
addition to CSS, such as webdesign-l. While CSS can handle the display 
of the boxes themselves, it's not meant for dynamically creating data. 
You'll need some sort of scripting language to pull that information 
from the DOM and insert it into the page with the proper markup.

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Displaying Applicable Styles on Element Mouse Over

2007-09-26 Thread oa berg

26 sep 2007 kl. 06.00 skrev Sasha H:

 I would like to know if there is a means of writing JavaScript that  
 will
 dynamically display the styles which are currently applied to any DOM
 element on a web page (i.e., those applied by ID, those applied by  
 class,
 etc.) as the user moves their mouse over them.

Hi,

Maybe this link will help you http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/ 
library/ms438349.aspx
(It's a tip for developers dealing with SharePoint themes)

I guess you are aware of IE Developer Toolbar? http:// 
www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E59C3964-672D-4511- 
BB3E-2D5E1DB91038displaylang=en
and the dev toolbar for Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/ 
firefox/addon/60

Cheers
/oa berg


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[css-d] liquid equal height columns without tables [WAS Re: Use or not to use Css to layout form components]

2007-09-26 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Jason Das wrote:
 FWIW, As far as I'm aware, the only thing tables can do for layout  
 that you can't do with css is  liquid equal hight columns.
   

For the record, CSS can do this perfectly well using display: 
table-cell. It's just IE that can't do it.

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] menu test - follow up +more

2007-09-26 Thread JGardner
Thank you to everyone who took the time to test my menu!

Per the problems below I made some changes, which I think solved the +1 break, 
but something caused some extra padding/margin, something in IE6.  So now the 
page has all of this extra which space on the right side.  You can see it here 
- http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm

If anyone has any suggestions, please send them my way.  Also, due to the 
changes the navigation now is on the left side, I had wanted it aligned on the 
right side.  I can live with it since it is more functional now, but if anyone 
knows how I can get it to align to the right side of the page that would be a 
big bonus!

Thank you again for taking the time to help me with this!
Jennifer



os x 10.4.01

I think the menu is as intended in safari, ff, and camino: but +1 breaks 
it in all. In opera, the menu is aligned left with the about block 
breaking left approximately 30px out of the outermost page container.

xp ie6 and ie7 on parallels/os x 10.4.01

In ie7 the link blocks break the top of the nav background band approx. 
8px. At text-sixe largest they break out the bottom of the background 
band.

In ie6 the menu is the same as opera/mac (it is aligned and breaking 
left). And, as well, the link blocks break the top of the nav background 
band approx. 8px.

Sorry for all the bad news...

Best,

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Re: [css-d] liquid equal height columns without tables [WAS Re: Use or not to use Css to layout form components]

2007-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jason Das wrote:
  FWIW, As far as I'm aware, the only thing tables can do for layout
  that you can't do with css is  liquid equal hight columns.

 Zoe wrote:
For the record, CSS can do this perfectly well using display:
table-cell. It's just IE that can't do it.

Actually, I've done this before - 2 columns (I haven't tried to do it 
with three yet), and *not* using display:table-call.  Works fine in 
IE5+ (and I think I even checked it on IE5 mac and it worked - but it's 
been a while, so I'd have to check again.  I still have the code, though 
in my little play folder.)

I just specifically remember this because the person I did it for wanted 
pixel-perfection between browsers in the *widths* of said divs 
(something about a paragraph in the div that spanned the entire width of 
the content area, but it was either overlapping or underlapping the 
sidebar by 1 pixel only), but the equal height stuff was no 
problem...and no, I didn't use a background image, either!

Just sayin' - it can be done, and for IE, too :)

~Shelly
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[css-d] IE6 Non-Existant Class Bug

2007-09-26 Thread Seth Green
As you will see if you load the page below... In IE6 the div remains 
red, even though it is explicitly set to green in the last rule.

It seems that the middle rule, which targets a non-existant class is 
causing the problem. Remove that, and the div is green, even in IE6.

Note: If instead of using the additional class selector in the last 
rule, I just use the id, then this problem also goes away.

Has anyone ever experienced this issue? Is there a workaround?



!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
head
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleUntitled/title
style
#testDiv {
background-color: red;
color: #fff;
font-size: 2em;
}

#testDiv.nonExistantClass {
}

#testDiv.foo {
background-color: green;
}
/style
/head
body
div id=testDiv class=foo
This DIV should have a GREEN background. But it doesn't in IE6
/div
/body
/html
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[css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread erin
Hello all,

I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag and
have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :) For example, this is what
I WANT to do:

_

pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
height=147 alt=French Bulldog /
h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2 I acquired
my first French Bulldog... /p

_

But I know that I'll need to do it this way instead:

_


pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
height=147 alt=French Bulldog //p
h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2
pI acquired my first French Bulldog... /p

__

But, as expected, that floats my image to the left, gives me my header and
then the paragraph starts below it. I want the paragraph text to start up
against the header text.

I tried using display:inline in my css for my header, but that didn't do
it for me. Any suggestions on how to get what I'm attempting???

Thanks in advance!

Erin Spangler
www.thedogsonline.com
Web Design and Hosting
for the Dog Enthusiast

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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Ray Leventhal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag and
 have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
 paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :) For example, this is what
 I WANT to do:
 
 _
 
 pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
 height=147 alt=French Bulldog /
 h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2 I acquired
 my first French Bulldog... /p
 
 _
 
 But I know that I'll need to do it this way instead:
 
 _
 
 
 pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
 height=147 alt=French Bulldog //p
 h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2
 pI acquired my first French Bulldog... /p
 
 __
 
 But, as expected, that floats my image to the left, gives me my header and
 then the paragraph starts below it. I want the paragraph text to start up
 against the header text.
 
 I tried using display:inline in my css for my header, but that didn't do
 it for me. Any suggestions on how to get what I'm attempting???
 
 Thanks in advance!
Hi Erin,

I'd do an inline span style=whatever style you'd like for h2 for the
first sentence within the paragraph, to achieve that goal easily.

There's likely a more elegant solution; I'm not a big fan of inline
styles,  but at first glance, that'd be my suggestion.

I'm looking forward to others' replies here!

HTH,
~Ray

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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Seth Green
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag and
 have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
 paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :) 

Can you tell us why you need to have an H2, specifically, within the 
paragraph? Why can't you just use a span and style the span?
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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Hakan K
URL...?


I think H2 usage is for SEO purposes ?




Thanks
http://dominor.com

On 9/26/07, Seth Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag and
  have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
  paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :)

 Can you tell us why you need to have an H2, specifically, within the
 paragraph? Why can't you just use a span and style the span?
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[css-d] Setting a border-bottom on html/body

2007-09-26 Thread Office @ GraphicsPlus
Hello list,

I'm trying to set a border-bottom on my document.

I've tried setting it on both html and body, but I still get a gap
between the  border and the browser, and then only on some pages.

---

Works OK here:
http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/diary-index.php

Problem here:
http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/contact.php

CSS here:
http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/css/

---

NOTE: The layout is currently only tested in FF!

TIA :)
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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread erin
Yes, that is correct. It's not the text styling (larger, bolder font,
etc.) that I'm looking for, it's the SEO purpose of having a proper
outline from the heading tags. I'm trying to design for the spiders and
the humans. :)

No URL yet, although I can pop up a temporary one if necessary.

Thanks,

Erin Spangler
www.thedogsonline.com
Web Design and Hosting
for the Dog Enthusiast

 URL...?


 I think H2 usage is for SEO purposes ?




 Thanks
 http://dominor.com

 On 9/26/07, Seth Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag
 and
  have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
  paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :)

 Can you tell us why you need to have an H2, specifically, within the
 paragraph? Why can't you just use a span and style the span?
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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Ray Leventhal
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  Yes, that is correct. It's not the text styling (larger, bolder font,
  etc.) that I'm looking for, it's the SEO purpose of having a proper
  outline from the heading tags. I'm trying to design for the spiders and
  the humans.  :)
 
  No URL yet, although I can pop up a temporary one if necessary.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Erin Spangler
  www.thedogsonline.com
  Web Design and Hosting
  for the Dog Enthusiast

Erin,

If it's for SEO and no other purpose, consider a class for h2 that's
display:hidden.  Then you can span within your p for the desired
visual effect (if any).

~R

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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Erin,

 I tried using display:inline in my css for my header, but that didn't do
 it for me. Any suggestions on how to get what I'm attempting???

Use inline-display both for the header and the following paragraph, like this:

Markup:

pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
height=147 alt=French Bulldog //p
h2 class=inlineI am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2
p class=inlineI acquired my first French Bulldog... /p

CSS:

.inline
  {
display: inline;
  }

You might want to adjust font size and font weight as well:

.inline
  {
display: inline;
font-size: 1em;
font-weight: normal;
  }

That should work as intended.

Cheers,

jens

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[css-d] Form styling problems in IE6

2007-09-26 Thread phidlerwerf
Well, I've taken the care to create an interoperable Web page at
http://northminpres.org/stewardship.html
but of course IDWIMSIE (at least, IE6). Can anyone clue me in to how  
to address the two biggest problems:

1) The paragraph in the middle of the form, which begins The  
following questions... overlaps the span above it (i.e., the text  
appears on top of/behind the other text). I tried wrapping a DIV  
around the P tag, but to no avail. I suspect it might be something  
I've done wrong in using a checkbox and an input field in the same span?

2) The Submit and Cancel buttons appear within the boundaries of the  
final 8x49 text area.

Both the XHTML and CSS on this page pass validation. It works pretty  
well on Firefox (Mac and PC) and Safari.

Thanks,
Paul
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Re: [css-d] Setting a border-bottom on html/body

2007-09-26 Thread Office @ GraphicsPlus
No, didn't fix it here (FF Mac)


On 26/09/2007, Walter Kosicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Add a minimum height attribute to the body tag of 100%, worked in FF For me

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Office @
 GraphicsPlus
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:27 PM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] Setting a border-bottom on html/body

 Hello list,

 I'm trying to set a border-bottom on my document.

 I've tried setting it on both html and body, but I still get a gap between
 the  border and the browser, and then only on some pages.

 ---

 Works OK here:
 http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/diary-index.php

 Problem here:
 http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/contact.php

 CSS here:
 http://graphics-plus.co.uk/clients/poeticlicence/demo/css/

 ---

 NOTE: The layout is currently only tested in FF!

 TIA :)
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Re: [css-d] using a header inline in a paragraph

2007-09-26 Thread Chris Ladd
Hey All,

How about something like this:

html
   head
 style type=text/css
   h2 {
 display: inline;
   }
   p.image {
 float: left;
 padding: 4px;
 margin: 4px;
 border: 1px solid #66;
   }
   p.first {
 display: inline;
   }
 /style
   /head
   body
 p class=imageImage Here/p
 h2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit./h2
 p class=firstAenean non tellus. Vivamus urna odio, lacinia at, 
adipiscing et, luctus a, nulla. Donec vestibulum purus ac libero. 
Vivamus fringilla. Nulla at risus at est tempor suscipit. Nulla eu felis 
vitae neque malesuada suscipit. Sed pretium. Fusce a tortor. Class 
aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per 
inceptos hymenaeos. Cras nec mauris. Pellentesque velit ipsum, 
condimentum ut, sollicitudin sed, sollicitudin eu, risus. Morbi eu 
sapien in ligula pretium vulputate. Integer porttitor. In ut justo. Sed 
est orci, feugiat eget, ornare nec, dapibus sed, lorem. Phasellus nibh 
nibh, sodales non, convallis in, blandit sed, sapien. Donec commodo 
metus quis tellus. Fusce vulputate augue et urna./p
 pFusce ut urna id velit vehicula vulputate. Etiam diam odio, 
scelerisque eget, consectetuer a, congue sit amet, nunc. Integer lacus 
augue, viverra ac, pretium nec, tincidunt in, elit. Mauris rhoncus 
scelerisque massa. Nam commodo hendrerit nibh. Nulla facilisi. Duis 
lobortis, mi nec imperdiet ultrices, tellus nunc porta metus, ac 
scelerisque massa sem at eros. Curabitur sit amet arcu eget nunc 
interdum viverra. Donec vel eros. Integer urna ante, accumsan ut, 
suscipit id, dictum ut, lectus. Suspendisse vehicula mattis mi./p
   /body
/html

- Chris


Ray Leventhal wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'd like to enclose the first sentence of my paragraph in a h2 tag and
 have it display inline. But I know I can't have a h2 tag inside a
 paragraph, but I want it to look like I can. :) For example, this is what
 I WANT to do:

 _

 pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
 height=147 alt=French Bulldog /
 h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2 I acquired
 my first French Bulldog... /p

 _

 But I know that I'll need to do it this way instead:

 _


 pimg class=floatleft src=images/frenchie.jpg width=190
 height=147 alt=French Bulldog //p
 h2I am a hobby breeder of French Bulldogs in California./h2
 pI acquired my first French Bulldog... /p

 __

 But, as expected, that floats my image to the left, gives me my header and
 then the paragraph starts below it. I want the paragraph text to start up
 against the header text.

 I tried using display:inline in my css for my header, but that didn't do
 it for me. Any suggestions on how to get what I'm attempting???

 Thanks in advance!
 Hi Erin,
 
 I'd do an inline span style=whatever style you'd like for h2 for the
 first sentence within the paragraph, to achieve that goal easily.
 
 There's likely a more elegant solution; I'm not a big fan of inline
 styles,  but at first glance, that'd be my suggestion.
 
 I'm looking forward to others' replies here!
 
 HTH,
 ~Ray
 
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[css-d] Overspill images outside of content area

2007-09-26 Thread trystano
Hi all, 

I have the following website where I want to be able to have the rose flowers 
to spill outside of the content area. An example of what I want to finally 
achieve is in the image, which I have also provided the link for below. I have, 
in the content area, a couple of DIVs holding in the content, they are 
#content-wrap, #content, #main, and then the individual divs for each piece 
of content (i.e.'Wedding Info' and 'Location' etc). I think ideally I'd like to 
have an image on each content section that overflows (also like I have in the 
image). I have tried applying a negative horizontal to the 'background' style 
for the left-hand image, but that seems to cut out the image (same with the 
right-hand image when I apply a horizontal value that is greater that the 
#content DIV. Can anyone point me in the right direction as I am a relatively 
noob on this level of CSS :)

Current website...
http://www.trystandsamthewedding.com/home2.htm

Stylesheet...
http://www.trystandsamthewedding.com/styles/style.css

image of what I want to achieve...
http://www.trystandsamthewedding.com/WesiteLayout.gif


Thanks in advance to those who help.

Tryst


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Re: [css-d] css and frames

2007-09-26 Thread Richard Grevers
On 9/24/07, Andrew Doades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, I have been working a a website the needs a menu, I have managed
 to get my menu and working with css, but the main page is using frames,
 and the menu is listed down the left frame (on the left side) but some
 text is long in the buttons, is there a way I can shrink the buttons or
 allow the buttons/ menu to fix to the text??

We'd need to see the site in order to offer constructive advice, but
in general I would put eliminating the frameset at a much higher
priority than converting the layout to css.


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[css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread J Hodge
Good evening to everyone.

Testbed:
http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/portfolio/cybernomics1.html

Testbed CSS:
http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/css/primary.css


I'm trying to get this site ready for the final
cosmetic touches, and so far it is displaying
correctly in the majority of modern browsers WITH
JavaScript enabled.  Unfortunately, when JavaScript is
disabled, almost all browsers render ul#portNav
incorrectly.  I've had varied results from toggling
the positioning between relative and absolute (with
the necessary changes to top, left, etc), but nothing
that has yielded cross-browser consistency.  The goal
is to have the ul#portNav display as it does in
browsers using JavaScript, even when JavaScript is
disabled.

Any ideas?

Secondly, Opera 9.x has some funky issues in rendering
the ul#portNav as well, beyond the above issue.  I
found that out of FF/NN/IE/Saf/Op, it was the only one
that used the primary.css (prior to adding hacks)
and rendered that ul as being positioned at the *top*
of the container.  After adding an Opera hack to the
primary stylesheet, I found that it rendered even more
oddly once the scripts were turned off, so I added a
noscript filter to correct the issue for Opera in the
head of the affected pages.  Unfortunately, a noscript
in the head does not validate for either strict or
transitional.  

Does anybody have any idea how to approach this in a
way that will validate?

Lastly, before I go in and start adjusting all the
fonts to relative sizing, I'd love input from anybody
with an eye for typesetting on how to make the right
sidebar and the left sidebar look more harmonious. 
I've been looking at this for so long trying to get
everything else sorted out that my eyes already feel
like they are about to bleed

Thank you in advance for your time and attention.  I
hope everyone is having a lovely evening.  Time for me
to go wrangle sick lilliputians...

~~J.
(treswife at gmail dot com)
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[css-d] problem vertically aligning within a div

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Marshall
Hi,

I've having problems vertically aligning 2 paragraphs and an image on 
the bottom of a div. I can't get them to come off the top of the div.

Here's my HTML:

div id=contentHome

pLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Duis eu 
dui ac lectus accumsan semper. Cras in felis. Suspendisse posuere 
turpis a est. Class aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per 
conubia nostra, per inceptos hymenaeos. Sed lacinia elit et lorem. 
Morbi facilisis leo in velit molestie aliquet. Maecenas pulvinar quam 
non tellus. Curabitur ac turpis eget dui ullam corper hendrerit. 
Maecenas neque. Nulla dignissim risus at orci aliquet./p
div id=interior/div
pCras in felis. Suspendisse posuere turpis a est. Class aptent 
taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per inceptos 
hymenaeos./p

/div

Here's my CSS:

p {
font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:#fff;
font-size:11px;
padding-left:25px;
}

#interior {
width:224px;
height:168px;
background-image:url(images/interior.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
float:left;
margin-left:25px;
margin-right:25px;
}

#contentHome {
background-image:url(images/home_content_bkgd.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
width:590px;
height:451px;
float:right;
}

Any help will be greatly appreciated.. thanks!

Steve (sorry about the HTML layout above)



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Re: [css-d] Overspill images outside of content area

2007-09-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
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 http://www.trystandsamthewedding.com/home2.htm

 image of what I want to achieve... 
 http://www.trystandsamthewedding.com/WesiteLayout.gif

Background images can't spill out of their own container, so you'll have
to offset the entire container(s) if you want a stable spill-over effect.

Example: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/try/test_07_0926.html

Such an offset will make the page wider, but the main part will center
nicely and stay within whatever width you give the main containers. I've
used 'width: 720px'.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread David Laakso
J Hodge wrote:
 Good evening to everyone.

 Testbed:
 http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/portfolio/cybernomics1.html

 Testbed CSS:
 http://www.lostinxlation.net/sandbox3/css/primary.css


 I'm trying to get this site ready for the final
 cosmetic touches

I regret that any font-scaling whatsoever breaks your site with or 
without javascript enabled in any browser on any operating system. It 
may be best to tackle that before moving on to other issues.

Regards,

~dL

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Re: [css-d] Cross-browser Display Issue / Problem With NOSCRIPT Validation

2007-09-26 Thread J Hodge
Thank you, David.  I am aware that scaling is
problematic, and was thinking the best approach would
be to write the CSS so that the content areas become
scrollable once the text size is increased.

However, upon further consideration, it occurs to me
that that it might also be beneficial to scale up the
dimensions of the overall layout as well...  the
particular layout I'm using was one I picked for some
practice in source ordering and the use of relative
positioning, and it has certainly posed its own little
challenges.  =0)

Thoughts on the relative merits of scrollable divs and
larger dimensions, in this particular context?

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Re: [css-d] problem vertically aligning within a div

2007-09-26 Thread Mauricio Samy Silva
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:57 PM
Subject: [css-d] problem vertically aligning within a div

 I've having problems vertically aligning 2 paragraphs and an image on
 the bottom of a div. I can't get them to come off the top of the div.
-
Hi,
I can't figure out what you are trying to achieve.
Playing with your code without knowing the context where
it is running I found the following:

Wrap the two paraghaphs and the small image within a div#wrap and add the 
following to your CSS:

#contentHome {
position: relative;
...
}

#wrap {
position: absolute;
left: 0;
bottom: 0;
}

Regards

Maurício Samy Silva
http://www.maujor.com/ 

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[css-d] configure full height iframe

2007-09-26 Thread Bob Meetin - www.dottedi.biz
is there any way to configure the height of an iframe to expand/contract 
dynamically with the amount of input?

i have tried general things like: height: 100%, height: auto; some 
various things with divs.

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Re: [css-d] menu test - follow up +more

2007-09-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JGardner wrote:
 http://www.jgardnerdesigns.com/web-design-services.htm

 Per the problems below I made some changes, which I think solved the 
 +1 break, but something caused some extra padding/margin, something 
 in IE6.  So now the page has all of this extra which space on the 
 right side.

Wrong width on menu, combined with IE6' auto-expansion bug. A lethal
combination.

IE6 also needs to establish a relation between #menuh-container and
#menuh.


 Also, due to the changes the navigation now is on the left side, I 
 had wanted it aligned on the right side.  I can live with it since it
  is more functional now, but if anyone knows how I can get it to 
 align to the right side of the page that would be a big bonus!

Float the entire #menuh right, and _contain_ it. Background color goes
on #menuh-container.

Example: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/jg-2/test_07_0926.html

New styles for the relevant elements are found in page-head.

Only tested in IE6, IE7, Firefox 2.0.0.7 and Opera 9.23.

regards
Georg
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[css-d] negative margins and Ie6

2007-09-26 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Hi guys,

Working on a simple column which has a round right corner on the div 
(via background image.)
the rest of the right had side has a single px border going up it.

In order to get the border not to display, i applied a -1px margin right 
to the element that has the rounded element.
this bumped me over in FF and ie7, but no luck in ie6.
anyone have a work around?


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Re: [css-d] Use or not to use Css to layout form components

2007-09-26 Thread Keith DiSarno
OFFTOPIC:

Zoe,

Wow! I am in the middle of something similar and was doing a little poking
around on this web of ours looking for some stuff, and you have hit the nail
right on the head. That link was exactly what I needed to see. Thanks!!!


Keith

On 9/26/07, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marcos wrote:
  I'm primarily a web component developer and now I'm performing two roles
  (developer/designer)
  and one doubt always remain in my mind  Should I use tables to
  layout form components such
  as combos, textboxes and so on ?
 
  I think the Css approach for forms very difficult to implement for
  complex forms :-(
 

 Marcos,

 I don't think tables make sense unless you have a form where no
 checkboxes or radio buttons, and since I never have forms like this, I
 never use tables to lay out forms. Some good semantic list markup makes
 styling even complex forms not too difficult. This is a great tutorial
 describing one approach:
 http://www.sitepoint.com/article/fancy-form-design-css

 Zoe

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