Re: [css-d] Need Text To Wrap

2008-02-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Elli Vizcaino wrote:

 I have coded this weather module for work: 
 http://e7flux.com/weathercenter/weathercenter.html
 
 and I need the text inside the bottom 2nd column to wrap onto next
 line underneath the temperature. It does so in IE7 but not in FF or
 Safari.

You can add a suitable width...

.fh3daytemp {width: 85px;}

...and the text will be forced to wrap.

Note that no matter the method used, the text will overflow those small
containers when subjected to font-resize - in all browsers.

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Re: [css-d] Site problem on ONLY ONE Linux browser

2008-02-13 Thread david
Martin Espericueta wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 My site does render fine in all flavors of browsers on WinXP. But on 
 Linux (Ubuntu), the site collapses on Koncoror.
 However, the site looks fine on FF/Opera on Ubuntu.
 
 Can any Koncoror fans help?
 
 The site is: http://fiercestreetnetworks.com

Don't know, but perhaps Konqueror isn't reading your ?xml style way of 
bringing in stylesheets? Or is otherwise having trouble with it? I went 
to validate your stylesheet but the W3C validator says it finds no 
stylesheet.

I also don't know about Konqueror support for advanced CSS such as 
a:hover[href* ...

You're way beyond my simple ways.

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Re: [css-d] Site problem on ONLY ONE Linux browser

2008-02-13 Thread David Dorward
On 11/02/2008, Martin Espericueta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My site does render fine in all flavors of browsers on WinXP. But on
 Linux (Ubuntu), the site collapses on Koncoror.

I think you mean Konqueror, and while I don't have it handy for
testing, the site falls apart in Safari 2 as well.



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Re: [css-d] Swap two elements horizontally

2008-02-13 Thread Thomas Watson
On 11/02/2008, at 22.11, Thomas Watson wrote:
 You can see an example of what I would like to achieve here:
 http://tws.name/resources/2008/02/tabs-with-text.png

By request, I've just added an HTML/CSS example page:
http://tws.name/resources/2008/02/tabs-with-text.html

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[css-d] everything looks ok until loaded in --- IE6

2008-02-13 Thread Amy Carr
hi All - I just joined after finding a link on the position is everything site. 
i have a website that i'm doing right now that looks good and works in explorer 
7 and firefox browsers. But then I happened to look at it in explorer 6... 
problems! i'm using a spry sliding panels extension on the page in question. It 
seems that the numberlinks at the bottom of the containing div are not 
displaying at all. I've tried just about everything and am hoping that someone 
out there can save the day! (especially because my client is using explorer 
6!!) 

the page : http://www.marshall-legacy.org/!news_and_events/main-news.html

the css : http://www.marshall-legacy.org/css/mainlasttime.css

screenshot of how it should appear : 
http://www.marshall-legacy.org/sceernshot.jpg

thanks in advance,
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[css-d] Bullet list position problem In IE

2008-02-13 Thread adriana escandon
Hi,
I created an unordered list inside a div which works as the division for the 
main content of the page. 
The css of the list looks like this: 

#inContent ul li {
font-size: 1.3em;
font-weight: normal;
width: 100%;
line-height: 2em;
list-style-type: disc;
list-style-position: inside;
position: inherit;
}

The problem is that in IE, the bullets appear on the last line of the sentences 
of the list instead of on the first one. One sentence from the list that 
appears in three lines has its corresponding bullet next to the third line. I 
don't have that problem in FF.

I have tried creating a separate ul tag with the same style, but the properties 
under #inContent ul li take precedence on the style. 

I hope you can help me with this.

Thank you,

Adriana

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Re: [css-d] Hello CSS Problem (explained)

2008-02-13 Thread Christopher
Hello, thank you this gallery e2 Gallery 
http://www.e2interactive.com/e2_photo_gallery/ I'm trying to get to 
work in my page.  The problem, I am having currently is that
I don't know what version of PHP to get this to work on.  I know someone 
who tried on PHP 4.4.8 and it didn't work if someone is
willing to try for me to get it working so I can see it in action. 

Onto the CSS problem, I contacted the author on this and all I was told 
was to use absolute positioning.  What I'm trying to do
is get this gallery the entire thing to fit within a box that is on a 
graphic which is a style sheet on my page, I was told by the author
it can be done again by using absolute positioning.  Now two problems 
first off when I import a style sheet from the gallery into
dreamweaver to see it it completely takes over my main page style sheet 
which I don't want, so I was informed to link or classes
to solve this (and I'm confused on this) second I don't see the style 
sheet in able to move it at all from the gallery.

Thank You
Christopher





Hi Christopher,

Usually the best option is to include a link to the page you are having 
issues with, and include what the exact problem you are having is.

The more detailed the better.

Welcome to the list!

On Feb 11, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Christopher wrote:

 Hello, I am new to this mailing list and I wanted to say Hello to
 everyone.  I joined this
 mailing list for one to get help and techniques when using CSS, but also
 I want to get my
 web page up and I'm having real problems using a gallery system and
 placing it into
 my web page, the main problem is CSS if anyone can help me I would
 appreciate it.

 Thank You
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[css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think

2008-02-13 Thread Nicole Aebi
Hello
I'm trying to create a CSS layout with a central body that has 4 stories in it. 
Each story will have a photo on the left with text relating to it on the right. 

At the moment, I can create one story but the moment I try to add a second or 
third it doesn't work. 

The site is: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/
With the CSS at: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/lgso4.css

I've tried several things like clearing the photo div or having four different 
divs - numbered 1 to 4, but neither worked and having different divs seemed not 
very elegant - much like this sentance!

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks
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[css-d] newbie CSS questions

2008-02-13 Thread AJ Putnam
Greetings,

Have just joined this list and am looking for insight into a couple of
problems I am having.  I have been building websites for years, but this is
my first attempt to use CSS heavily as a design/layout tool.  Mostly, I have
been able to figure it out but have two problems that are just stopping me
in my tracks. (Oh and I am using Dreamweaver 8, primarily, to set everything
up)

A little context... a designer created layouts in photoshop which I am
adapting for the web.  There are set-size images to use on the outside and
as a center background.  But on some pages, the content will go longer than
the images.  Because divs don't easily allow for that without tiling the
images (which are not conducive to tiling), I went to a basic table set up
with 1 row and three columns, and used divs in the cells for more layout.
What I had hoped would happen is that the table cell would lengthen with the
content and below the images, a background color would fill in the
bacground.  That does not seem to be happening.  Example:

http://ajputnam.com/sky/ontour

as you can see, the content table just sort of hangs over the lower edge.

Also, on one set of pages, the center image is not appearing at all, and
neither is any background color.  I seem to have a phantom row of sorts at
the top of the page but nothing going on in the background aside from that,
and can't figure out why:

http://ajputnam.com/sky/discography

The hanging over the edge problem would happen here too if the center was
working at all as intended.

I have run the pages and the css file through W3C validators and all come up
as good to go.  So, I do not know how to fix these problems.  Any and all
insight will be most gratefully accepted.  Thank you!

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Re: [css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Nicole Aebi wrote:
 Hello
 I'm trying to create a CSS layout with a central body that has 4 stories in 
 it. Each story will have a photo on the left with text relating to it on the 
 right. 

 At the moment, I can create one story but the moment I try to add a second or 
 third it doesn't work. 

 The site is: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/
 With the CSS at: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/lgso4.css

 I've tried several things like clearing the photo div or having four 
 different divs - numbered 1 to 4, but neither worked and having different 
 divs seemed not very elegant - much like this sentance!

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks
 Nicole


   

Create a class (named whatever you like) and repeat as many times as needed 
beneath the #news division.

css:
.more-news {float:left;clear:left;}

html

div id=news
p.../p
/div 


div class=more-news
p.../p
/div 

div class=more-news
p.../p
/div 


div class=more-news
p.../p
/div 

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Re: [css-d] Need Text To Wrap

2008-02-13 Thread Elli Vizcaino

--- Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elli Vizcaino wrote:
 
  I have coded this weather module for work: 
  http://e7flux.com/weathercenter/weathercenter.html
  
  and I need the text inside the bottom 2nd column
 to wrap onto next
  line underneath the temperature. It does so in IE7
 but not in FF or
  Safari.
 
 You can add a suitable width...
 
 .fh3daytemp {width: 85px;}
 
 ...and the text will be forced to wrap.
 
 Note that no matter the method used, the text will
 overflow those small
 containers when subjected to font-resize - in all
 browsers.
 
 regards
   Georg
 -- 
 http://www.gunlaug.no
 

Thanks Georg! You're a genius!



  

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Re: [css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think

2008-02-13 Thread Nicole Aebi
Thanks. So near and yet so far! I've managed to get it working for the photos 
but the news bit just ends up all crammed under the first news story.

Stuck :-)
Nicole

David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicole Aebi wrote:
 Hello
 I'm trying to create a CSS layout with a central body that has 4 stories in 
 it. Each story will have a photo on the left with text relating to it on the 
 right. 

 At the moment, I can create one story but the moment I try to add a second or 
 third it doesn't work. 

 The site is: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/
 With the CSS at: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/lgso4.css

 I've tried several things like clearing the photo div or having four 
 different divs - numbered 1 to 4, but neither worked and having different 
 divs seemed not very elegant - much like this sentance!

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks
 Nicole


   

Create a class (named whatever you like) and repeat as many times as needed 
beneath the #news division.

css:
.more-news {float:left;clear:left;}

html


...


 



...


 


...


 



...


 

Best, 
~dL





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[css-d] Need help with a float inside a DIV

2008-02-13 Thread Webmaster
I've got what seems to be a simple problem, but I can't find the answer. I've 
got this page: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new.html

I have a simple heading with an logo image, and I want to float the address 
text to the right inside the header DIV. I tried this, but in both IE and 
Firefox, the text drops out of the header DIV. I tried putting the image in a 
DIV and floating it to the left, but that still doesn't work with Firefox, and 
it looks ugly in IE.

The relevant CSS file is here: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/css/box.css

 I apologize in advance for the ugliness of the CSS and the simplicity of this 
problem, but I appreciate any help. Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] newbie CSS questions

2008-02-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
AJ Putnam wrote:
 http://ajputnam.com/sky/ontour
 
 as you can see, the content table just sort of hangs over the lower 
 edge.

1: delete _all_ instances of 'position: absolute', or else you'll get
nowhere.
Absolute positioned elements are treated as if they do not take up any
space, so the expansion you're expecting can't take place. 'A:P' also
deactivates 'float', so you'll get no float-behavior.

2: use margins to push elements into place.

3: don't restrict height on elements that are supposed to expand with
content, and clear below floats.

Pity IE7 doesn't support CSS table, or else you could have started here...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213.html

...and just trimmed some margins.

I've used...

* {margin-top: 0!important; position: static!important;}
div {display: table;}

...to override the problematic parts of your styles. That works fine in
Firefox, Opera, and even IE6, but in order to make it work as intended
across browser-land you'll have to go through your stylesheet and
correct it line by line.

BTW: you don't need a layout table, since regular elements - divs - will
also expand with content when height is unrestricted. The layout table
does no real harm though.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think

2008-02-13 Thread Chris Akins
This page sounds like what you're trying to do.  It's close to what David L.
suggested, but not exactly.  His methods are more tried and true than mine
I'm nearly positive.

http://www.springfieldmo.gov/egov/planning_development/econ_dev/brownfields/success.html

relevant CSS is here:

http://www.springfieldmo.gov/css/brownfields.css

On Feb 13, 2008 8:02 AM, Nicole Aebi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello
 I'm trying to create a CSS layout with a central body that has 4 stories
 in it. Each story will have a photo on the left with text relating to it on
 the right.

 At the moment, I can create one story but the moment I try to add a second
 or third it doesn't work.

 The site is: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/
 With the CSS at: http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/lgso4.css

 I've tried several things like clearing the photo div or having four
 different divs - numbered 1 to 4, but neither worked and having different
 divs seemed not very elegant - much like this sentance!

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks
 Nicole




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Re: [css-d] Need help with a float inside a DIV

2008-02-13 Thread Jim Davis
Remove clear: left; from .header-text and clear the float later in the
markup.

Jim

On Feb 13, 2008 7:59 AM, Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've got what seems to be a simple problem, but I can't find the answer.
 I've got this page: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new.html

 I have a simple heading with an logo image, and I want to float the
 address text to the right inside the header DIV. I tried this, but in both
 IE and Firefox, the text drops out of the header DIV. I tried putting the
 image in a DIV and floating it to the left, but that still doesn't work with
 Firefox, and it looks ugly in IE.

 The relevant CSS file is here:
 http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/css/box.css

  I apologize in advance for the ugliness of the CSS and the simplicity of
 this problem, but I appreciate any help. Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Nicole Aebi wrote:
 Thanks. So near and yet so far! I've managed to get it working for the 
 photos but the news bit just ends up all crammed under the first news 
 story.

 Stuck :-)
 Nicole

 */
 /*



Reference uri:
http://www.bond.org.uk/Newsite/
 


Oh my, that will never do (smacks self alongside head). See if this is 
more like what you want-- you'll see changes in the embedded css and in 
the markup:
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/ut.html/


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Re: [css-d] Need help with a float inside a DIV

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Webmaster wrote:
 http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new.html

 I have a simple heading with an logo image, and I want to float the address 
 text to the right inside the header DIV. I tried this, but in both IE and 
 Firefox, the text drops out of the header DIV. I tried putting the image in a 
 DIV and floating it to the left, but that still doesn't work with Firefox, 
 and it looks ugly in IE.


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#header {
  position: relative;
  width: 765px;
  /*height: 90px;*/ - :: delete ::
min-height: 6.5em; - :: add::
  margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px; - :: delete ::
background-color: #ff9933;
border-bottom: 1px solid #000;- :: add::
border-style: solid;  :: delete this and all rules below ::
border-bottom-width: 1px;
border-top-width: 0px;
border-left-width: 0px;
border-right-width: 0px;
border-color: #00;
}


#header {
  /*height: 90px;*/ 
min-height: 6.5em; 
}


* html #header {height: 6.5em;  }  :: add for ie/6  ::

.header-text
{ 
position: absolute; - :: add::
top: 5px; - :: add::
right: 0; - :: add::
width: 420px;
font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:#00;
font-size:10px;
/*float:right;   :: delete this and all rules below ::
line-height:13px;
margin:4px;
padding:1px;
clear:left;*/
}


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Re: [css-d] Need help with a float inside a DIV

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote:
 Webmaster wrote:
   
 http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new.html

 I have a simple heading with an logo image, and I want to float the address 
 text to the right inside the header DIV. I tried this, but in both IE and 
 Firefox, the text drops out of the header DIV. I tried putting the image in 
 a DIV and floating it to the left, but that still doesn't work with Firefox, 
 and it looks ugly in IE.


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I meant to delete this before hitting send as the changes are included 
in the #header ruleset above it in my initial reply

#header {
  /*height: 90px;*/ 
min-height: 6.5em; 
}



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Re: [css-d] Hello CSS Problem (explained)

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Christopher wrote:
 Hello, thank you this gallery e2 Gallery 
 http://www.e2interactive.com/e2_photo_gallery/ I'm trying to get to 

 Onto the CSS problem...]  Now two problems 
 first off when I import a style sheet from the gallery into
 dreamweaver to see it it completely takes over...]


 Christopher




   



Put *your page* on a public server with a clickable link to it in your 
post-- someone may be able to help with CSS issues you may have with it.
Problems with server-side scripting is best addressed to a PHP list.
I do not use Dreamweaver, and have no idea where one goes for assistance 
with your editor.

Best,

~dL

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Re: [css-d] everything looks ok until loaded in --- IE6

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Amy Carr wrote:

 the page : http://www.marshall-legacy.org/!news_and_events/main-news.html

 the css : http://www.marshall-legacy.org/css/mainlasttime.css

 screenshot of how it should appear : 
 http://www.marshall-legacy.org/sceernshot.jpg

 thanks in advance,
 lisa
   



I think you'll need to re-think your approach and positioning scheme. 
The numerals are only positioned where you want them if the page is 
viewed at 1024 in compliant browsers. And since the content font-size is 
considerably less than some users prefer, font-scaling will do a number 
on the whole page because of the fixed height restrictions that have 
been imposed.

Regards,

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[css-d] strange gaps (was: cant do bottom background )

2008-02-13 Thread Erland Flaten
Thanks, Tusen takk und vielen dank for help on this to Gunlag and  
Christian :)

I have tried to use the solution and it works as it should, but I have  
still has some issues.
- There is a gap between the header section and the three DIVs  
sidebar1, sidebar2 and maincontent.
- There is also a gap between the footer and botom of this DIVs

There are also some adjustment to do on the grapics

Den 13. feb.. 2008 kl. 03.56 skrev Gunlaug Sørtun:


 One way to solve your problem is to rearrange the entire kors
 image complex.

 - The crossing - horizontal with curves - part should be declared as
 background on a separate div above #footer, where you have a br
 class=clearfloat / now.

 - The vertical part above needs its own container surrounding  
 #sidebar1,
 #sidebar2  #mainContent. Image should be taller so the container can
 grow in height without running out of background.

 - The vertical part below should be declared on #footer, as now.

 - Containers/elements above and below the crossing, can be pulled/ 
 pushed
 up and/or down until they line up as you want. The element with the
 crossing can then be stacked - position: relative; z-index: 1; - so  
 the
 kors crossing appears in the right place. Further stacking will keep
 relevant elements on top.

 Such an arrangement will keep the entire kors perfectly aligned even
 under severe stress.
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[css-d] strange gaps 2 (was: cant do bottom background )

2008-02-13 Thread Erland Flaten
Sorrry, Forgot the URL: http://www.nuna.no/ahus/forside.html

Thanks, Tusen takk und vielen dank for help on this to Gunlag and  
Christian :)

I have tried to use the solution and it works as it should, but I have  
still has some issues.
- There is a gap between the header section and the three DIVs  
sidebar1, sidebar2 and maincontent.
- There is also a gap between the footer and botom of this DIVs

There are also some adjustment to do on the grapics

Den 13. feb.. 2008 kl. 03.56 skrev Gunlaug Sørtun:


 One way to solve your problem is to rearrange the entire kors
 image complex.

 - The crossing - horizontal with curves - part should be declared as
 background on a separate div above #footer, where you have a br
 class=clearfloat / now.

 - The vertical part above needs its own container surrounding  
 #sidebar1,
 #sidebar2  #mainContent. Image should be taller so the container can
 grow in height without running out of background.

 - The vertical part below should be declared on #footer, as now.

 - Containers/elements above and below the crossing, can be pulled/ 
 pushed
 up and/or down until they line up as you want. The element with the
 crossing can then be stacked - position: relative; z-index: 1; - so  
 the
 kors crossing appears in the right place. Further stacking will keep
 relevant elements on top.

 Such an arrangement will keep the entire kors perfectly aligned even
 under severe stress.
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Re: [css-d] newbie CSS questions

2008-02-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
AJ Putnam wrote:
 So, I did what you indicated.  I went and removed all a:p from the 
 style sheet.  Really messed with my layout.  i added your short bit 
 of code to the top and it helped marginally.  so, i am still at a 
 loss.

Delete that short bit of code now, as it was only for demo/debugging
and serves no purpose anymore.

 what did I do wrong?

Nothing really - at least not yet, but you have to complete the job.

 2: use margins to push elements into place.

Which means you have to correct nearly all margins used in your
stylesheet - especially all those large 'margin-top'.

 3: don't restrict height on elements that are supposed to expand 
 with content, and clear below floats.

Which for that particular page means deleting 'height : 720px;' on
#tourmiddle.

Have a look at a reasonably well-aligned example...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213-b.html

...that will render the same across browser-land.

Take a close look at the stylesheet for that example - as seen through
the validator...

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213-b.htmlwarning=1profile=css21

All those errors are made by me, as I've rendered almost all instances
of 'margin-top' useless in a way that the validator flags. This way I
won't have to write about every single one of them.
Now you correct those margins and give them values that suits your
layout now that all 'a:p' are gone, and all browsers will render your
layout properly.

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] strange gaps 2

2008-02-13 Thread David Laakso
Erland Flaten wrote:
  http://www.nuna.no/ahus/forside.html


 - There is a gap between the header section and the three DIVs  
 sidebar1, sidebar2 and maincontent.
 - There is also a gap between the footer and botom of this DIVs
   




p {margin: 0;} -- :: add this ruleset to your style sheet ::

#container #verticalcrossupper {
height: /*340px*/319px; - :: the img is 319px tall not 340px ::
}




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Re: [css-d] strange gaps 2

2008-02-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erland Flaten wrote:
 Sorrry, Forgot the URL: http://www.nuna.no/ahus/forside.html
 
 Thanks, Tusen takk und vielen dank for help on this to Gunlag and 
 Christian :)
 
 I have tried to use the solution and it works as it should, but I
 have still has some issues. - There is a gap between the header
 section and the three DIVs sidebar1, sidebar2 and maincontent.

Collapsing margin[1].

Style it...

#container #verticalcrossupper {
margin: -1px 0 0 0;
padding: 1px 0 0 0;
}

...and the margin will be contained and the gap disappear.

 - There is also a gap between the footer and botom of this DIVs

The addition of...

#container #horisontalkors {
margin-top: (some suitable value);
}

...will fix that - once you have the other layout parts under control.

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#collapsing-margins
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Re: [css-d] Suckerfish Dropdown Problem with IE6

2008-02-13 Thread Richard Grevers
On 2/13/08, Nancy Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using suckerfish drop down in a section of my website.

 One page of this section also has a form with select boxes.

 In IE6, the suckerfish drop-down menu which is at the top of the
 section appears behind the select boxes instead of in front of the
 select boxes.  IE6 is the only browser I test in that this happens.
 Any suggestions to correct this?

 I cannot put this on a public site to show you.  If someone responds
 offline, then I am happy to send a screen shot.

Form elements have infinite z-index in IE6. No way to correct it, so
you will have to work around it in the design:
Either
1) Move the form so that the menus won't intersect the form elements
or
2) Hide the form elements when the menus extend.

-- 
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Dramatic Design www.dramatic.co.nz
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