[css-d] VERTICAL 3-pixel gap in IE6

2008-03-17 Thread Andrew Frazier
On this page:

www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/broken.php

IE6 shows a gap between the divs that hold the grey/black band and the one  
below with the orange background.

In all the browsers I've tested in (Opera 9.5, IE7, Firefox 2, Firefox 3b,  
Webkit) it works as I intended with no gap.

This is a problem i've not encountered before and I presume is due in some  
way to the nested divs that I have had to use to make the design work as  
the designer intended with a horizontal stretch.

CSS here: www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/structure.css and  
www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/stylesheet.css

All advice gratefully received.

-- 
Andrew Frazier
www.kidderminsterharriers.com

Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

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Re: [css-d] Text size issue in IE6 and IE7

2008-03-17 Thread Nancy Johnson
Thank you for your help.  The fix seems to be when I took  margin {0
.06em 0 .06em} out of the main head div.

Nancy Johnson

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Kepler Gelotte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If you mean: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/images/defects_banner.jpg
   Hold its height, crop its width?

  You could also resize the image along with the text. In your CSS you
  currently have:

  .head img {margin: .19em 0 .19em  0; }

  Add width and height where 1em = 16px (on most monitors) at 100%:

  .head img {margin: .19em 0 .19em  0; width: 41.3125em; height: 3.125em; }

  41.3125 * 16 = 661
  3.125 * 16 = 50

  Best regards,
  Kepler Gelotte
  Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
  156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
  www.neighborwebmaster.com
  phone/fax: (732) 302-0904



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Re: [css-d] VERTICAL 3-pixel gap in IE6

2008-03-17 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Hello,

IE6 doesn't like empty DIVs. It computes it's size as if there was a 
space character in it.

You have the following in your code:
DIV id=phoneBar/DIV

Replace it with:
DIV id=phoneBar!-- --/DIV

...and everything should be fine.

Best Regards,

Christian
*Directmedia Publishing GmbH* · Möckernstraße 68 · 10965 Berlin
www.digitale-bibliothek.de
AG Berlin-Charlottenburg · HR B 58002 · USt.Id. DE173211737
Geschäftsführer: Ralf Szymanski · Erwin Jurschitza


Andrew Frazier schrieb:
 On this page:

 www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/broken.php

 IE6 shows a gap between the divs that hold the grey/black band and the one  
 below with the orange background.

 In all the browsers I've tested in (Opera 9.5, IE7, Firefox 2, Firefox 3b,  
 Webkit) it works as I intended with no gap.

 This is a problem i've not encountered before and I presume is due in some  
 way to the nested divs that I have had to use to make the design work as  
 the designer intended with a horizontal stretch.

 CSS here: www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/structure.css and  
 www.milesquarefabricstudio.com/stylesheet.css

 All advice gratefully received.

   
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[css-d] setting up a rule for different monitors

2008-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a 2 column layout. Fixed, elastic - float -left

When I preview on a 19 in monitor, (1024 X 768) and zoom in on the  
text, the text wraps at 775 px. (width set to 775px)

When I preview on a 19in monitor, (800 X 600) the text flows off to  
the right.
(horizontal scroll bar kicks in, which isn't great when you are  
reading a lot of text)

If I set the width to 580px, I'm okay.

Is it possible to set a rule for different  monitors resolutions?
Can the browser sense what resolution the monitor a web surfer is using?

Any other solutions using css

thanks in advance

chris


Web site URL

http://inno-vision.ca/thetreeoflifecentre/index.html
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[css-d] Footer won't move down with text

2008-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I finally got to a point where I've hosted my web site.

http://inno-vision.ca/thetreeoflifecentre/index.html

I've tried to do most of the entire site using CSS.

Problem I have is that I'm using Spry - collapsible panel.

When I open the panel, the footer stays in the middle of the page,  
instead of moving down with the text.

It was working on another page, moving down as you zoom into the  
text, but in trying different settings in the external style sheet,  
it is no longer working . I'm loosing my hair over this one. ;-)

I would also welcome any feedback on my use of CSS.

thanks in advance

chris
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Re: [css-d] Footer won't move down with text

2008-03-17 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
Hello,

first of all I've recognized that in your css you have two empty print 
sections. The css between the first and the last is almost identical two 
the css before the first empty print section.

To your problem. The content div is positionied absolute. By that it is 
taken out of the box flow and following boxes (divs etc.). When the 
position of a following box (like the footer div) is computed, the 
positioned divs are not taken into account. The left column div is the 
last static one. The footer is placed exactly under that (vertically). I 
am afraid you will have to come up with a different solution for the two 
column layout you want to achieve.

Regards,

Christian
*Directmedia Publishing GmbH* · Möckernstraße 68 · 10965 Berlin
www.digitale-bibliothek.de
AG Berlin-Charlottenburg · HR B 58002 · USt.Id. DE173211737
Geschäftsführer: Ralf Szymanski · Erwin Jurschitza


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 I finally got to a point where I've hosted my web site.

 http://inno-vision.ca/thetreeoflifecentre/index.html

 I've tried to do most of the entire site using CSS.

 Problem I have is that I'm using Spry - collapsible panel.

 When I open the panel, the footer stays in the middle of the page,  
 instead of moving down with the text.

 It was working on another page, moving down as you zoom into the  
 text, but in trying different settings in the external style sheet,  
 it is no longer working . I'm loosing my hair over this one. ;-)

 I would also welcome any feedback on my use of CSS.

 thanks in advance

 chris
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Re: [css-d] setting up a rule for different monitors

2008-03-17 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 17-Mar-08, at 8:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible to set a rule for different  monitors resolutions?

Old articles [1] and [2], but I'm sure they're still good to peruse.

 Can the browser sense what resolution the monitor a web surfer is  
 using?

Yes; however resolution alone does not indicate the actual width that  
is being used. Browser toolbars/infobars and/or a non-maximised window  
can reduce both the horizontal and vertical space on offer.

 Any other solutions using css

You could use percentages for widths - this will allow the browser to  
dynamically resize the content to fit the available space.

Best,
  - Rahul.

[1] http://particletree.com/features/dynamic-resolution-dependent-layouts/

[2] http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2006/01/19/
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Re: [css-d] IE6 dropping floats

2008-03-17 Thread Julie Wetherill

At 05:20 PM 3/14/2008 -0700, you wrote:
How about making mid-container-inner a static div rather than floated, 
then floating one of the ul's left and the other ul floated right. See 
this demo:

http://www.jimdavis.org/test/list_this.htmlhttp://www.jimdavis.org/test/list_this.html

Will re-size gracefully in IE6 win, FF 2.0 and Opera 9.26

Jim


Thanks for your suggestion Jim. I have deployed it on this test page:
http://hul.harvard.edu/oisnew/systems/oasis/upload.new.html

The floated lists inside the static container no longer drop below the 
layout when the viewport is narrowed, but now I'm having problems placing 
text below the container that stays below the container. I imagine this is 
because the containing div does not have a height calculated for it because 
the floats aren't really *there*. The cleared div in your example solves 
the problem in IE but not Firefox. In FF, the clearing div is also clearing 
the left/right layout columns -- forcing that bottom text below the layout. 
I assigned a min-height to the container, which seems to help in FF.

Jim -- Do you know of a way to clear interior floated content that does not 
also blow away a floated layout? This has been a regular problem in the 
layout I'm forced to work within.

Thanks for your help!  --julie


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[css-d] Max-width/min-width percentage in IE 6

2008-03-17 Thread Jack Blankenships
I am trying to apply a max-width and min-width feature to a page for
IE6, but all of the examples I see online appear like this:

(see: http://www.antix.co.uk/code/css/imposing_minimum_width/default.htm)

  #example_3 .main
  {
min-width:450px;
/* IE Dynamic Expression to set the width */
width:expression(document.body.clientWidth  550 ? 450px : 100% );
  }

The problem is that instead of having a specific number of pixels I
want it to be a percentage, and ideally it should be with respect to
the containing block element (ex. a div) rather than the client
width.

Any suggestions?
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Re: [css-d] Max-width/min-width percentage in IE 6

2008-03-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jack Blankenships wrote:
 I am trying to apply a max-width and min-width feature to a page for 
 IE6, but all of the examples I see online appear like this:
 
 (see: 
 http://www.antix.co.uk/code/css/imposing_minimum_width/default.htm)

 The problem is that instead of having a specific number of pixels I 
 want it to be a percentage, and ideally it should be with respect to 
 the containing block element (ex. a div) rather than the client 
 width.

Apart from the example page and 'min-width' expression being made for
IE6 quirks mode only, it sounds like you're using 'min/max-width'
backwards relative to plain 'width' in all browsers.
Do you have a link so we can see what exactly you're trying to achieve?

In the mean time; here are some working 'min/max-width' solutions, with
demos, that are not relying on IE6' mode...

http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Max-width/min-width percentage in IE 6

2008-03-17 Thread Jack Blankenships
What I am trying to do is create a set of images in a fluid layout
that adjusts based on the browser size.

The code is really very simple.  I have a css-p div that contains an
image placed in a certain spot on the page.  The container div is
sized based on the client browser.  The idea is to have the large
image inside sized to match the container.  Using min-width and
max-width (both set to 100% in this case) as percentages resizes the
image based on the container (yay!) rather than the original image
size (which is not helpful in this case).  Using width as has been
suggested refers back to the original image size.

This sample code works in Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, Opera ... but not
in Internet Explorer because there is apparently no suppourt for
min-width and max-width:

style
.fluidcontainer {overflow: hidden; border: none; position: absolute;}
.fluidimage {min-width: 100%; max-width: 100%; border: none;
position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px;}
/style
...
div class=fluidcontainer style=top: 11.8%; left: 26.3%; width:
36.2%; height: 35%;
img class=fluidimage src=/images/coolpic.jpg id=coolpic /
/div

Any other suggestions?

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jack Blankenships wrote:
   I am trying to apply a max-width and min-width feature to a page for
   IE6, but all of the examples I see online appear like this:
  
   (see:
   http://www.antix.co.uk/code/css/imposing_minimum_width/default.htm)


  The problem is that instead of having a specific number of pixels I
   want it to be a percentage, and ideally it should be with respect to
   the containing block element (ex. a div) rather than the client
   width.

  Apart from the example page and 'min-width' expression being made for
  IE6 quirks mode only, it sounds like you're using 'min/max-width'
  backwards relative to plain 'width' in all browsers.
  Do you have a link so we can see what exactly you're trying to achieve?

  In the mean time; here are some working 'min/max-width' solutions, with
  demos, that are not relying on IE6' mode...

  http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_14.html

  regards
 Georg
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Re: [css-d] Max-width/min-width percentage in IE 6

2008-03-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jack Blankenships wrote:
 What I am trying to do is create a set of images in a fluid layout 
 that adjusts based on the browser size.
 
 The code is really very simple.  I have a css-p div that contains an 
 image placed in a certain spot on the page.  The container div is 
 sized based on the client browser.  The idea is to have the large 
 image inside sized to match the container.  Using min-width and 
 max-width (both set to 100% in this case) as percentages resizes the 
 image based on the container (yay!) rather than the original image 
 size (which is not helpful in this case).  Using width as has been 
 suggested refers back to the original image size.

No. 'Width' refers to the image's container. This is also true in
IE/win, as long as the container has 'Layout'[1] - which yours have.

 This sample code works in Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, Opera ... but not
  in Internet Explorer because there is apparently no suppourt for 
 min-width and max-width:

IE6' lack of support is correct.

 [...]

Your example is the same as 'width: 100%; height: auto;' since
'min/max-width' are both 100%. That's regular image-scaling, which works
in IE6 (and older) too - to a degree.

IE6 isn't good at scaling images, and may lose the width/height
proportions on large or many images over a slow connection.
The scaling issue you describe and exemplify can otherwise be solved as
in this demo...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_19c.html
See the relevant article linked in at the bottom for more details about
image-scaling in browsers in general.

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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[css-d] CSS Templates

2008-03-17 Thread Laura
Hello

Thank you again for all your help on my last question. Now I'm
struggling with this

I want the site to have the top margin and left side as the
constant and the rest to be variable. I really don't want to
clone this page for the rest of the pages for the site. How does
one go about making part of the CSS variable while leaving the
header and side panel code the same without copying it to each
page in the site?  The other thing I need to do with the site is
add a log in page which will also be on the left side, I don't
think that would affect the style sheets though.

My site is http://www.returnengagement.org

Thanks for any insight. Much appreciated!

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Re: [css-d] CSS Templates

2008-03-17 Thread David Laakso
Laura wrote:
 I want the site to have the top margin and left side as the
 constant and the rest to be variable. I really don't want to
 clone this page for the rest of the pages for the site. How does
 one go about making part of the CSS variable while leaving the
 header and side panel code the same without copying it to each
 page in the site?  The other thing I need to do with the site is
 add a log in page which will also be on the left side, I don't
 think that would affect the style sheets though.

 http://www.returnengagement.org
   




I may be way off target, as I am not sure I understand the question (s)...
If you are seeking content management, you might look into Wordpress-- 
it is sometimes used as an effective, and simple CMS (Content Management 
System).




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[css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

2008-03-17 Thread Jason Ogle
Hello kind and enlightened folks,

I'm inquiring for a friend and will take the credit for your answer. Jk.
She's not having a butt problem, but a button problem.

She's having a doozie of a time (no pun intended) trying to get some
buttons to work. The problem is the css is nested like three levels deep
for SEO friendliness.

Could you guys take a look and offer a solution on the best way to
activate the nav buttons on the right at:
http://www.elements-of-creation.com/html/index2.php

Thanks for any insight! Hope all is well.

Jason




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Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

2008-03-17 Thread Jason Ogle
Hi Jennifer

Thanks for digging deeper and responding. Sorry if I didn't provide
enough info. It's actually quite a simple problem. The buttons that look
like navigation elements on the right are not clickable in any browser.
How should this be done?

http://www.elements-of-creation.com/html/index2.php

Thanks!

Jason

-Original Message-
From: jennifer ham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Jason Ogle
Subject: Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

What exactly is the problem? What's happening wrong? What isn't
happening that should? What browser is having a problem?

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Jason Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello kind and enlightened folks,

  I'm inquiring for a friend and will take the credit for your answer.
Jk.
  She's not having a butt problem, but a button problem.

  She's having a doozie of a time (no pun intended) trying to get some
  buttons to work. The problem is the css is nested like three levels
deep
  for SEO friendliness.

  Could you guys take a look and offer a solution on the best way to
  activate the nav buttons on the right at:
  http://www.elements-of-creation.com/html/index2.php


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Re: [css-d] CSS Templates

2008-03-17 Thread Del Wegener



 Laura wrote:
 I want the site to have the top margin and left side as the
 constant and the rest to be variable. I really don't want to
 clone this page for the rest of the pages for the site. How does
 one go about making part of the CSS variable while leaving the
 header and side panel code the same without copying it to each
 page in the site? 

 I may be way off target, as I am not sure I understand the question (s)...
 If you are seeking content management, you might look into Wordpress-- 
 it is sometimes used as an effective, and simple CMS (Content Management
 System).

It is probably not wise for me to try to clarify someone else's question, 
but I will do it because I have the same concerns.
I believe she has hundreds of pages all of which are to have the same 
content in a top margin and the same content in the left margin while the 
remainder of the page will vary from page to page.

This is exactly what I must do with a site revision in a month or so.  In 
the past I did this with frames, but the desire is to move to all CSS.

Del 


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[css-d] Stray line between columns

2008-03-17 Thread David Weatherston
I would appreciate help with a vexing problem. On this site, 
http://www.troubleshootingphotos.com/ 
 , there is a grey line between the placed image at upper left  
(loupeicon.gif consists of photos, a camera and magnifying glass with  
images as a background) and the background image, photoband.jpg, on  
the top of the main column. I've tried realigning the image, changing  
the size of loupeicon.gif and a variety of less reputable tricks.  
Where is it coming from and how do I get rid of it?

CSS is at http://www.troubleshootingphotos.com/styles/sbd.css.

Thank you for all assistance.


David Weatherston






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Re: [css-d] Stray line between columns

2008-03-17 Thread Jason Ogle
Hi David,

Try applying:

padding: 0; 
to td#sidelinks

Fixed it in FF. Test it in other browsers and see if it works.


jason ogle | designer | myspace.com
310.969.7124 | myspace.com/ogletine


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Weatherston
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:17 PM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] Stray line between columns

I would appreciate help with a vexing problem. On this site, 
http://www.troubleshootingphotos.com/ 
 , there is a grey line between the placed image at upper left  
(loupeicon.gif consists of photos, a camera and magnifying glass with  
images as a background) and the background image, photoband.jpg, on  
the top of the main column. I've tried realigning the image, changing  
the size of loupeicon.gif and a variety of less reputable tricks.  
Where is it coming from and how do I get rid of it?

CSS is at http://www.troubleshootingphotos.com/styles/sbd.css.

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Re: [css-d] Stray line between columns

2008-03-17 Thread David Weatherston
Jason,

That works in Safari, FF Mac, FF Windows, IE 6 and IE 7, which covers  
99.987% of the target market (the rest will be considered a rounding  
error and ignored).

Thank you.

David Weatherston






On Mar 17, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Jason Ogle wrote:

 Try applying:

 padding: 0;
 to td#sidelinks

 Fixed it in FF. Test it in other browsers and see if it works.

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Re: [css-d] Stray line between columns

2008-03-17 Thread Jason Ogle
No sweat man. Glad I could help!

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-Original Message-
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That works in Safari, FF Mac, FF Windows, IE 6 and IE 7, which covers  
99.987% of the target market

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Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

2008-03-17 Thread Katherine Coynor
They're clicking for me (ie 6.0  ff 2.0)...has the issue been resolved?




On 3/17/08, Jason Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jennifer

 Thanks for digging deeper and responding. Sorry if I didn't provide
 enough info. It's actually quite a simple problem. The buttons that look
 like navigation elements on the right are not clickable in any browser.
 How should this be done?

 http://www.elements-of-creation.com/html/index2.php

 Thanks!

 Jason

 -Original Message-
 From: jennifer ham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:23 PM
 To: Jason Ogle
 Subject: Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

 What exactly is the problem? What's happening wrong? What isn't
 happening that should? What browser is having a problem?

 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Jason Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello kind and enlightened folks,
 
   I'm inquiring for a friend and will take the credit for your answer.
 Jk.
   She's not having a butt problem, but a button problem.
 
   She's having a doozie of a time (no pun intended) trying to get some
   buttons to work. The problem is the css is nested like three levels
 deep
   for SEO friendliness.
 
   Could you guys take a look and offer a solution on the best way to
   activate the nav buttons on the right at:
   http://www.elements-of-creation.com/html/index2.php


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Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

2008-03-17 Thread Jason Ogle
Yes it has been resolved. She ended up rebuilding it as the code was
getting really messy and her solution lined up pretty much with what Ray
had put forth.

Thank you for following up Katherine!

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From: Katherine Coynor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:55 PM
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Cc: jennifer ham; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Greets/Butt Problem

They're clicking for me (ie 6.0  ff 2.0)...has the issue been
resolved?

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[css-d] IE woes in pure CSS drop-down menu

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Lundquist
Hi all,

This site

http://dev.bell.wd-2.net

works fine in FF/Safari, but it's still lacking in IE.  The problem is  
with the :hover behavior of the navigation links.

Notes:

1) I've got Dean Edward's brilliant-but-unfortunately-named IE7  
package in the loop here (I use it for all my sites);

2) Notwithstanding (1), a bit of extra coercion is still needed to  
beat IE into submission.  This comes in the file IE/fix.css that's  
loaded in a conditional comment (no hacks in this file, only extra  
normal CSS rules that are needed to make IE behave).  But still, there  
are problems...

3) In IE7 (that is, IE7, The Browser) the menus mostly work.  There  
is a problem with falling off or losing the hover as you try to move  
from the triggering element (the primary nav link) down into the  
secondary nav menu.  Not sure what to do about it.  There are  
currently some positioning tweaks in place to deal this problem (or  
something much like it) that I was seeing in IE6 (see below) (and  
perhaps also in FF  Safari, I can't remember now).  Anyway, whatever  
I did, it's not enough in IE7, and I don't know if the fix is going to  
be the same but more of it, or if there's some better way...

4) IE6 has a whole different problem.  The secondary nav menu looks  
good when you first trigger it by hovering over the primary menu item,  
but then when you slide down onto the secondary menu proper, the width  
explodes to 100%.  What the heck!?!?!

Ideas/suggestions much appreciated! :-)

cheers,
—ml—

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