Re: [css-d] Hello, spent the time learning CSS now understood some questions

[Rahul Gonsalves]

On 02-Oct-08, at 6:26 AM, Majestic wrote:

> Do any of you know a working reliable IE6 PNG hack that works and I
> can depend on?

Try:

http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/

Best,
  - Rahul.
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[css-d] Positioning a website in the middle

[Krystian - Sunlust]

Hi,
I was trying to google for it but I can't find a solution,
I know how to position website with margin: 0 auto, but it stays on the top
of the website on bigger screens, what I need is it to stay in the middle,
vertically and horizontally, I'm looking for a simple solution, don't mind
the JS if needed.

Any help/tips/links appreciated.

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Re: [css-d] Positioning a website in the middle

[Alexandru Dinulescu]

Hello. (i found out how to reply to all so others can see this results)

Thats quite not possible to do this with CSS only, because you cant set a
margin full auto for exemple so everything is placed in the middle. The only
way to do this is by using this sort of structure










thats about it, and afterwords on the TD a height: 100% or height: auto; or
something to make it span the entire window of the screen in height. (sorry
if parts of the code are incorrect)

This is the only trick i know and it works (i did it for an image which had
to be centerly positioned in a bigger div *and the image was inserted via
PHP so the image had different size)

Hope it works.

Also there is a JS solution. something like 1) calculate the entire height
of the browser viewable space (aka the stuff that is page content not the
toolbars/etc) 2) calculate the height of the website's main DIV 3) do 1) -
2) / 2 and that is the vertical margin and it has to be inserted like a js
on the Main websites div. I am still very new to JavaScript so i cant help
you with the coding of the script but thats what it should be like.

Hope i could help you and sorry if i replied to you instead of the entire
mailing address, i'm also new to those things.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Krystian - Sunlust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi,
> I was trying to google for it but I can't find a solution,
> I know how to position website with margin: 0 auto, but it stays on the top
> of the website on bigger screens, what I need is it to stay in the middle,
> vertically and horizontally, I'm looking for a simple solution, don't mind
> the JS if needed.
>
> Any help/tips/links appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [css-d] Positioning a website in the middle

[Christian Heilmann]

{table example snipped}

Hi Krystian, you don't need a table for that. Here's a well explained 
solution:

http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html


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Re: [css-d] Hello, spent the time learning CSS now understood some questions

[Serge Krul]

>
> > Also one other thing is CSS round corners using images


I would suggest to use Roger Johansson technique:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/transparent_custom_corners_and_borders_version_2/

After trying many other techniques [with niftycube (
http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html) being the best when you
have lots of round boxes and solid backgrounds], imho Roger's is the
simplest, smartest and the most customizable.
Note: it works with JS, but you can easily make it work without it with
the sacrifice of clean HTML.

Serge


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Re: [css-d] Div covering up sub menu in Safari

[Serge Krul]

Hi, without disrespecting the importance of the SWFObject script, i suggest
to try simple solutions first, which may be sufficient in your case. You
should try to put the wmode="transparent" parameter on your flash.
See here:
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15523
Serge


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Re: [css-d] Positioning a website in the middle

[Alexandru Dinulescu]

Hello.

I have read through that exemple and it still uses the CSS property display:
table which IE6 does not understand. Your exemple makes the user create a
special code for IE6 and then the code for the other browsers. From my own
point of view its not the best solution or easiest solution to implement.


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> {table example snipped}
>
> Hi Krystian, you don't need a table for that. Here's a well explained
> solution:
>
> http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html
>
>
>


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Re: [css-d] IE7 only: zoom text issue with global navigation

[Serge Krul]

One solution would be to give "layout" [
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html ] to your links (in your
ie css):

.navbar2 li {
zoom:1;
}

You will need to adjust your top and bottom padding and your line-height,
because now ie treats the box differently (i'm not sure exactly why and how
it's connected to the fact you're in quirksmode, if anyone here knows please
enlight us).

Serge


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Re: [css-d] IE7 only: zoom text issue with global navigation

[Serge Krul]

oops i wrote .navabar2 li {} instead of .navbar2 li a {}

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Re: [css-d] Div covering up sub menu in Safari

[Jimmy]

Serge,

Thanks for taking the time to provide an alternate solution for the drop
down menu issue. Simple is always good.

The SWFObject looks as if it actually replaces my "D.W." method of inserting
flash to compensate for before yesterday unknown issues to me within it. The
list is absolutely great.

Thanks everyone for all you do on this.

Jimmy Priest 


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[css-d] Visual CSS interpreter

[Sohail Aboobaker]

Hi,

We often need to take exisitng HTML / CSS files from a website and map it to
a pre-existing (templated) xhmtl format which contains most common elements.


Most of work involved is in mapping one HTML div tag names, stylenames etc.
to another. Is there a tool which would examine the current CSS and HTML for
a given page and draw boxes around the div tag or visually mark each tag for
easy mapping?

Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Visual CSS interpreter

[Martin Möller]

Sohail Aboobaker wrote:
> Is there a tool which would examine the current CSS and HTML for
> a given page and draw boxes around the div tag or visually mark each tag for
> easy mapping?

Firefox Web Developer Toolbar should be sufficient.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60
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Re: [css-d] Visual CSS interpreter

[Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis]

Sohail Aboobaker wrote:
> We often need to take exisitng HTML / CSS files from a website and map it to
> a pre-existing (templated) xhmtl format which contains most common elements.
> 
> 
> Most of work involved is in mapping one HTML div tag names, stylenames etc.
> to another. Is there a tool which would examine the current CSS and HTML for
> a given page and draw boxes around the div tag or visually mark each tag for
> easy mapping?

Probably, but this work sounds like a job for XSLT.

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Re: [css-d] Hello, spent the time learning CSS now understood some questions

[Majestic]

Roger Johansson technique says that you gotta apply CBB to a class
what if I have a  which has it's own name, that I'd like to use?
And there don't seem to be options to Roger Johansson round corners
for adjusting things as in the corner roundness etc, I'm no javascript
person so I wouldn't now how to go in their and adjust this option.


On 10/2/08, Serge Krul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Also one other thing is CSS round corners using images
>
> I would suggest to use Roger Johansson technique:
> http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/transparent_custom_corners_and_borders_version_2/
>
>
> After trying many other techniques [with niftycube
> (http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html) being
> the best when you have lots of round boxes and solid backgrounds], imho
> Roger's is the simplest, smartest and the most customizable.
> Note: it works with JS, but you can easily make it work without it with the
> sacrifice of clean HTML.
>
> Serge
>
> >
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[css-d] Mysterious offset in 3-column layout

[Nadine Misiaszek]

I find a mysterious offset of 10 px in my 3-column layout, my first 
such layout.

I have validated the HTML and the CSS.  I used Firebug for another 
perspective.  My column 1 header 2 has a mysterious offset of 10.  I 
do not know where it comes from.

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~nmisiasz/test/page1.html

The header tags of column 1 and column 2 line up in IE 6 but not in 
Firefox 3.  I tried some negative numbers for margin-top.  Then 
things work in FF but not in IE.

Thanks for any help you may give.


Nadine 

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Re: [css-d] Mysterious offset in 3-column layout

[Alexandru Dinulescu]

Inside your head tags put a Conditional comment



and in your CSS file put the good code that makes all standard modern
browsers behave.
Also IE6 has a problem with margins set on float elements
for ex:
div1 { float: left; margin:10} will be div1 {float: left; margin:20px} in
IE6, to fix this common proboem add a display: inline to all floated
elements with margins
div { float:left margin: 10px dispplay: inline}
this will fix some other issues also, standard complient browsers do not
take the display: inline because all float elements are block level elements
and in ie6 the margins will be set properly.

Hope it will help you
Best Regards

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Nadine Misiaszek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I find a mysterious offset of 10 px in my 3-column layout, my first
> such layout.
>
> I have validated the HTML and the CSS.  I used Firebug for another
> perspective.  My column 1 header 2 has a mysterious offset of 10.  I
> do not know where it comes from.
>
> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~nmisiasz/test/page1.html
>
> The header tags of column 1 and column 2 line up in IE 6 but not in
> Firefox 3.  I tried some negative numbers for margin-top.  Then
> things work in FF but not in IE.
>
> Thanks for any help you may give.
>
>
> Nadine
>
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Re: [css-d] IE7 only: zoom text issue with global navigation

[Nancy Johnson]

Thank you I will try this.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Serge Krul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> oops i wrote .navabar2 li {} instead of .navbar2 li a {}
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Re: [css-d] Mysterious offset in 3-column layout

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Nadine Misiaszek wrote:

> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~nmisiasz/test/page1.html
> 
> The header tags of column 1 and column 2 line up in IE 6 but not in 
> Firefox 3.  I tried some negative numbers for margin-top.  Then 
> things work in FF but not in IE.

You're experiencing "collapsing margins"...

...where margins on the headlines (h2) are either contained by their
containers, or they escape their containers and collapses into, or
create, vertical margins on their respective parents and grandparents.

Margins can't escape absolute positioned containers (#column1) but they
can escape relative positioned containers (#column2), which is what
causes the line-up problem. Nasty stuff, but in accordance with CSS
specs I'm afraid.


The difference between IE6 and non-IE browsers, is caused by different
margin-defaults. IE has zero margin-top default on h2, while other
browsers have a non-zero margin-top default.

So, to equalize without having to hack browsers, you can zero out
margin-top on h2 by adding...

h2 {margin-top: 0;}

...and all browsers will agree and make those headlines and their
respective containers line up where they should.

Further vertical adjustment (if necessary) is best done by declaring a
suitable padding-top on #column1 and #column2.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Positioning a website in the middle

[David Hucklesby]

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> {table example snipped}
>>
>> Hi Krystian, you don't need a table for that. Here's a well explained 
>> solution:
>>
>> http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html
>

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:37:44 +0300, Alexandru Dinulescu responded:
>
> I have read through that exemple and it still uses the CSS property display: 
> table
> which IE6 does not understand. Your exemple makes the user create a special 
> code for
> IE6 and then the code for the other browsers. From my own point of view its 
> not the
> best solution or easiest solution to implement.
>
~~~


"Internet Explorer 6 was the first fully CSS Level 1-compliant version
 of Internet Explorer"[1]

Other browsers have supported CSS 2.1 for some time. So you will
find many situations where IE 6 needs special treatment. Sorry.

[1]  

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] Mysterious offset in 3-column layout

[David Hucklesby]

On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:32:33 -0700, Nadine Misiaszek wrote:
> I find a mysterious offset of 10 px in my 3-column layout, my first such 
> layout.
>
> I have validated the HTML and the CSS.  I used Firebug for another 
> perspective.  My
> column 1 header 2 has a mysterious offset of 10.  I do not know where it 
> comes from.
>
> http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~nmisiasz/test/page1.html
>
> The header tags of column 1 and column 2 line up in IE 6 but not in Firefox 
> 3.  I tried
> some negative numbers for margin-top.  Then things work in FF but not in IE.
>
~~~

Your column 1 is absolutely positioned, and the top margin on the H2
pushes it down by 11px. The margin-top on column 2 H2 pushes the
whole of #contentWrapper down, as it "pokes through" the top in
all browsers except IE.

Perhaps the simplest solution is to eliminate the top-margin on those
H2 elements. Add a margin-top to #contentWrapper to push it down
instead of relying on the H2 margin, viz:

#contentWrapper { margin-top: 1em; }
#contentWrapper h2 { margin-top: 0; }

It "works" in IE because #contentWrapper has a width defined on it.
This triggers the IE proprietary "hasLayout" feature, which "traps"
the margin-top on the column 2 H2 (among other non-standard
behaviors.)

I hope this hasn't confused you further.

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] fluid layout within a div with title and controls

[graham.hays]

 Just realised I'd sent this to Mansour only - Just in case anyone else is
interested..


 

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> Subject: [css-d] fluid layout within a div with title and controls
> 
> Hello all:
> I have been trying to do this for a while with no luck. I am trying to 
> create a layout for sections of my page that looks like a window 
> (title bar, controls ..etc). Here's the html
> 
> 
> 
>  my title
> 
> 
> 
>my contents
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .window-bar{width:100%;}
> .title{float:left;}
> .controls{float:right;}
> 
> however, when I float .title and .controls the .window-bar resize and 
> disapear as they go out of this container. I tried many things but 
> nothing worked. Can someone please suggest something?
> 

Hi

I have exactly this on my own site (www.visualcomputing.co.uk) - and yes, I
had fun getting it to work!! I want to revisit it but there's always
something else .. So this can probably be trimmed down somewhat, but
basically what I ended up with:


Title  Window contents 

.web-look {
margin-top: 1em;
float: right;
}
.web-look h1 {
color: #FF;
background: url(../i/weblookbar.gif) repeat;
margin: 0em;
padding: 0em;
}
.web-look h1 img {
margin-right: 0.25em;
margin-left: 0.25em;
margin-top: 0.1em;
}
.web-look p{
margin-right: 1em;
margin-left: 1em;
padding-bottom: 0.5em;
}
.web-look img{
float: left;
margin-right: 1em;
}
.web-look p.webbar
 {  margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
background: url(../i/webiconsend.gif) repeat-x;
height: 2.5em;
}
.web-look img.webbar {
height: 2.5em;
}

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Re: [css-d] More than one background image to ?

[Erik Harris]

On 10/1/2008 9:47 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
>> I'd recommend against this.  I haven't tested it on recent browsers,  
>> but
>> when I tried this solution in 2004, it crashed Gecko-based browsers
>> hard.  They would max out the CPU and then crash.  It affected all

> I've used that technique for years (since Gecko 1.0 !, well before  
> Firefox 1.0 was released) without ever noticing a crash or hang like  
> that. And recent Gecko versions certainly don't suffer from this.
> Occasionally the background-image attached to the  element would  
> not display at all, but that is a different issue.

That's strange.  In my case, both the HTML and BODY images displayed, 
but they caused serious problems.  In my case, they were small pictures 
vertically repeated down the left and right sides of the screen (as they 
are now with the BODY and a DIV element on my gungfu club homepage).  A 
number of people in alt.html verified that it crashed their systems as 
well, so it was something about the CSS on the page, and not unique to 
my setup.

That issue was actually what prompted me to join this discussion forum. 
  Judging from the message date and the Firefox release history, this 
was Gecko 1.6, and Firefox 0.8 that had the problem.  I kept an 
alternate CSS file around and verified that a couple later versions had 
the same problem, but I stopped checking shortly after that.

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Re: [css-d] Hello, spent the time learning CSS now understood some questions

[Luc]

Good evening Majestic, 

It was foretold that on 01/10/2008 @ 20:56:47 GMT-0400 (which was
21:56:47 where I live) Majestic would write:



>  I have spent the longest time trying to get PNG 24 images
> to work with IE6.  I have tried from IEPNGFIX to IEFIX all javascript
> none of them worked infact I did get one to work but only and
> literally once, that was it.

Have you tried this:

http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2008/01/ie7-2/

It's a JavaScript   library   to   make  MSIE  behave  like  a
standards-compliant  browser.  It  fixes  many  CSS  issues  and makes
transparent PNG work correctly under IE5 and IE6.

Never used it myself

 
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[css-d] Need images centered vertically

[Carol Huddleston]

Is there a way for me to get the images on this page to center  
vertically in their divs?

http://www.prairiedreamstudio.com/galleries/testgallerybay.html
http://www.prairiedreamstudio.com/css/layout.css

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Re: [css-d] Need images centered vertically

[Estelle Weyl]

Hedger Wang has a good example that may help:
http://www.hedgerwow.com/360/dhtml/css-layout-gridview.html

-Estelle
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--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Carol Huddleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Carol Huddleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [css-d] Need images centered vertically
> To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 4:36 PM
> Is there a way for me to get the images on this page to
> center  
> vertically in their divs?
> 
> http://www.prairiedreamstudio.com/galleries/testgallerybay.html
> http://www.prairiedreamstudio.com/css/layout.css
> 
> Carol
> 
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[css-d] CSS Round Corners

[Majestic]

Anyone have experience doing CSS round corners ? I need some help as
nothing so far as been working out for me, including javascripts.
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Re: [css-d] CSS-based drop-shadow images - troubleshooting help?

[cssdiscuss]

>


probably an easy one for you guys...

if you have a page with links styled with the pseudo-classes (a:link,  
etc.), how do you set another link with different pseudo-syles (for  
the link) ?

thanks
david







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Re: [css-d] CSS Round Corners

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Majestic wrote:
> Anyone have experience doing CSS round corners ? I need some help as 
> nothing so far as been working out for me, including javascripts.

Not sure. What, which layouts, is it supposed to be used on or fit into?

If you want round corners as defined in CSS3...

...which aren't fully supported across browser-land yet, then I haven't
bothered with those.

But if you want something like this...

...which is fairly well supported but more complex and relies on
scripting + CSS, then I do have some experience.

The latter used on layouts...



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