[css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether the 
content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why, if 
possible).

http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in Mac/Safari, 
but I have no means of viewing it myself.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
 
 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
 
 #txtcol {clear:both}
 
 I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
 the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
 it overflows to the right.
 
 Philippe
 ---
Thanks, Philippe and Martin.

Martin: I'd better get myself set up with Safari for Windows pdq.

Philippe: div#nav is set to 770px in sfnav.css, I can't see any other setting 
(nor should there be one), but I agree it would be a problem if it were 760px. 
Where are you getting this value from ?  No margins or padding on div#nav 
either, although there is inside the lis.

I had #txtcol {clear: both;} originally, but it seemed to cause some other 
problem.  Unfortunately my notes don't tell me, so I'll put it back and see !

Tim
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
 
 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php
 
 #txtcol {clear:both}
 
 I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
 the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
 it overflows to the right.
 
 Philippe

I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.

#txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a very tall thin 
column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the problem is 
resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px wide.

Thank you for your help.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] drop down menus/flash

2008-10-16 Thread Ed Pybus
Thanks for the advice - unfortunately none of it has worked for me! I've 
give the elements of the dropdown menus higher z-index numbers than the 
flash player and tried the wmode param on the flash player and neither 
seem to work (at least on FF3 on ubuntu). I know there seems to be some 
FF/Flash problems could some check if the menus are coming down in front 
of the flash player on other operating systems?

http://www.slrecords.net/test_videos.php

Or do I just have to accept that at the moment you can't get drop down 
menus to drop in front of a flash player??

Thanks again,

Ed

Ed Pybus wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone help me get my dropdown menus coming down in front of a flash 
 player rather than behind it?

 http://www.slrecords.net/test_videos.php

 CSS here

 http://www.slrecords.net/css/master2.css

 This is my first website so and other comments/improvements/criticisms 
 welcome.

 Thanks,

 Ed


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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

 #txtcol {clear:both}

 I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:
 the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is
 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of  
 course
 it overflows to the right.

 Philippe

 I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.

 #txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a  
 very tall thin
 column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the  
 problem is
 resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px  
 wide.

 Thank you for your help.

When I originally loaded the page, The Webkit Inspector reported 760px  
for that orange bar. I don't remember the name of the stylesheet.
I reloaded the page now, and it reports 770px.
The clear:both on the #txtcol is not necessary anymore, although safe  
to add.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Raoul Snyman wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 
 On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:47:52 +0100, Tim Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether
 the content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

 It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in
 Mac/Safari, but I have no means of viewing it myself.
 
 I've taken a screenshot, it's attached.
 
Thanks, Raoul, that's what my colleague reported.  All the content is appearing 
outside the (intended) page, to the right.  It feels like a float gone wrong. 
My problem is to determine why when I can't reproduce it on any machine I've 
got.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] drop down menus/flash

2008-10-16 Thread jono
 http://www.slrecords.net/test_videos.php

 Or do I just have to accept that at the moment you can't get drop down
 menus to drop in front of a flash player??


No, the scriupt is the culprit.  Even Dreamweaver gets this wrong out of
the box.  Use [1]swfObject, as follows:

Include swfobject in the head of your document:
  script type=text/javascript language=javascript
src=path/to/swfObject.js/script

In your HTML, for the flash piece:

div id=wrapper
  div id=slideshow/div
  script type=text/javascript language=javascript
  var so = new
SWFObject('path/to/flashFile.swf','slideshow',700,400,8,'#ff');
   so.addParam('quality','high');
   so.addParam('wmode','transparent');
  so.write('Slideshow');
/script
/div

Note:
div id=slideshow/div is where the SWF will appear/be injected. The
ID can be whatever you'd like, but that ID must match up in the code right
after the path.
700 is the width
400 is the height
8 is the version to detect

Also, make srure you set z-index where necessary.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Tim Dawson
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
 
 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

 #txtcol {clear:both}

 I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:
 the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is
 770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course
 it overflows to the right.

 Philippe

 I installed Safari for Windows, and was able to see the effect.

 #txtcol {clear:both} seems to have fixed it, but IE7 then made a very 
 tall thin
 column.  Removing #txtcol {width: auto;} fixed that, so I think the 
 problem is
 resolved.  I still can't see anywhere that div#nav is set to 760px wide.

 Thank you for your help.
 
 When I originally loaded the page, The Webkit Inspector reported 760px 
 for that orange bar. I don't remember the name of the stylesheet.
 I reloaded the page now, and it reports 770px.
 The clear:both on the #txtcol is not necessary anymore, although safe to 
 add.
 
 Philippe

Thanks.  The problem wasn't the absence of {clear: both;}, but the presence of 
{float: none;}.  The other browsers were happy, but not Safari.
I'd better get myself 'Webkit Inspector' now.  I've found the nightly builds at 
webkit.org.  Is that it, or is there a released stable version ?

Tim

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Re: [css-d] drop down menus/flash

2008-10-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ed Pybus wrote:
 ... could some check if the menus are coming down in front of the 
 flash player on other operating systems?
 
 http://www.slrecords.net/test_videos.php

Seems to be working as intended in all browsers on windows 2000/XP/Vista
and on Mac OSX - dropdown gets in front of flash.

As you have observed: no good in any browser on Ubuntu.

regards
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[css-d] centring in IE7 and Sharepoint aspx master pages

2008-10-16 Thread miriam clinton (iriXx)
Hi,

I'm working on a design at the moment using the width + margin: auto;
trick to centre the main container (in this case a table, ick, because i'm
adapting a Sharepoint master page and dont want to go through too much
hell figuring it out from scratch.

My design works beautifully in Firefox - I begin the table tag just after
the body tag and before the form tag on the aspx page, set width to
80% and margin-auto. This has the effect of centring my table in Firefox
but aligning it left in IE7.

Unfortunately its on a login-protected intranet site so unless a demo is
needed I can really only describe the problem at this stage.

thanks
iriXx

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[css-d] Newbie question on IE 7 menu bug

2008-10-16 Thread MJ Kewley
I am working on a template for the redesign of my city's website. I'm using 
Bill Brown's 'The Holier Grail' as the base css for the framework, and have 
added one of Stu Nicholl's menus. It works beautifully in FF, but not in IE 7 
(haven't tested 6 yet). I'm wondering if someone could point me to which one of 
the 170 or so IE 7 bugs I might be dealing with here:
 
http://dev.greatergreenville.com/csstesting/default3column.aspx 
 
Thank you,
MJ
 
MJ Kewley
Web Manager
City of Greenville
864-467-4584
www.greatergreenville.com 
 
 
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[css-d] Suckerfish issue in IE6

2008-10-16 Thread lists

Hello CSS folks,

I'm having a heck of a time debugging a suckerfish menu for IE6, and was 
looking for some input.

test/sample page is here:

http://www.irregulara.org/test/dosing.htm

relevant CSS is here:

http://www.irregulara.org/test/css/nav.css
http://www.irregulara.org/test/css/main.css
http://www.irregulara.org/test/css/ie.css
http://www.irregulara.org/test/css/reset.css


Originally I thought this was a float clearing issue, but after stripping out 
everything but the menu, it still is getting mangled.




thanks,


/scott johnson
/irregulara medialab

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Re: [css-d] Form layout

2008-10-16 Thread Snipes, Jason L
 Can someone point me to a good online tutorial describing various
 techniques for tableless form layout?


I have found the techniques described in this A List Apart Article very helpful.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/prettyaccessibleforms/


 If possible, I'd like to create some forms that would allow me to use CSS
 to switch between two common layouts - one in columns and the other
 line-oriented.  That is:

 Name  [   ]
 Email [   ]


 Name
 [   ]

 Email
 [   ]

Under the styling the form section, I think you can change the selector for 
form.cmxform label display from inline-block to block to meet your second 
example.

form.cmxform label {
  display: inline-block; Change to block;
  line-height: 1.8;
  vertical-align: top;
}

Hope this helps,

Jason Snipes


 






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Re: [css-d] Moving Layout

2008-10-16 Thread David Laakso
Adam Stemple wrote:
 www.passivepokerincome.com

 Hovering over login reveals the login using overflow:hidden.  In IE it works
 fine, but in FF it shifts the whole layout over.


 Thanks.
   


See this article on correcting short page shift:
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=528A0



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[css-d] Left column problems in IE 6 @ 800x600

2008-10-16 Thread Mike Breiding
Greetings,

IE 6 reduces the left margin enough to knock the left column navigation 
to the bottom at resolution of 800x600

http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/
http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/ert_index_style.css

It is OK in FF 3.0.3 and Opera 9.5

HTML validates except for ID error which is in the PHP menu.
Error  Line 203, Column 8: ID currentpage already defined.
li id=currentpagea href='index.php'strongW/strongednesday - 
September

Any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks,
-Mike
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[css-d] SEO, MetaTags what is the best method?

2008-10-16 Thread Majestic
I have a question, what is best for search engines metatags ? I am a
bit in the dark on what is best to include for search engines.  I
don't expect to be googles first page ranking just like many out there
to be found, instead of being the needle in the haystack being the
orange in the haystack.
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[css-d] Cleaning up unused style sheets!

2008-10-16 Thread Majestic
Hello, anyone know a quick method maybe a program or a technique to
clean up style sheets that have declarations within them that are not
used ?
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Re: [css-d] SEO, MetaTags what is the best method?

2008-10-16 Thread Majestic
Don't flame me please, I'm sorry just wanted to ask the question !
(Now has high anxiety that he will be flammed)

Thank you for the information Erwan.

On 10/16/08, Erwan Deverre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Majestic,

  prepare to be shot down in flames since this is rather off topic.
  Incidentally, a clean  coherent HTML structure held by crisp CSS helps a
 lot more than any meta tag could do: those have been worked on for 12/15
 years now, and chances are that many have more experience than you do.
  Clean code, on the other hand, is quite rare and that's where you can feel
 the difference.

  Anyway, Google et al. give prominence to code and backlinks over meta tags,
 though the latter help a bit for less performant engines. Try to keep on
 focus in your description  keywords, and don't fool the potential visitor
 with high-value keywords. He'll hate it if you lie to him.

  hth
  Erwan



  Majestic wrote:

  I have a question, what is best for search engines metatags ? I am a
  bit in the dark on what is best to include for search engines.  I
  don't expect to be googles first page ranking just like many out there
  to be found, instead of being the needle in the haystack being the
  orange in the haystack.
 
 


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[css-d] DocType on page question.

2008-10-16 Thread Majestic
I have come across some pages that do not used a DocType so does that
mean you don't need a Doctype on a page and if so how do these pages
work around this so that there page validates ?
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Re: [css-d] Cleaning up unused style sheets!

2008-10-16 Thread Majestic
Oh, sweet thank you so much..

On 10/16/08, Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Majestic wrote:

  Hello, anyone know a quick method maybe a program or a technique to
  clean up style sheets that have declarations within them that are not
  used ?
 
 
 
  There's Dust Me Selectors:
 http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/26/dust-me-selectors-version-20/


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Re: [css-d] DocType on page question.

2008-10-16 Thread David Dorward
2008/10/16 Majestic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I have come across some pages that do not used a DocType so does that
 mean you don't need a Doctype on a page

The Doctype is mandatory in most versions of HTML.

Documents served as text/html with no Doctype trigger Quirks modes in
browsers which leads to much inconsistency and pain.

 and if so how do these pages
 work around this so that there page validates ?

In theory, another system of validation could be used - such as an XML schema.

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Re: [css-d] Cleaning up unused style sheets!

2008-10-16 Thread Christian Heilmann
Majestic wrote:
 Hello, anyone know a quick method maybe a program or a technique to
 clean up style sheets that have declarations within them that are not
 used ?

   
There's Dust Me Selectors:
http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/11/26/dust-me-selectors-version-20/

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Möller


 It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in
 Mac/Safari,
 but I have no means of viewing it myself.



I just checked in Windows Safari  3.0.3 - same Problem there.
You can get it here: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
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Re: [css-d] ADMIN: SEO, MetaTags what is the best method?

2008-10-16 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 10:46 AM -0400 10/16/08, Majestic wrote:

I have a question, what is best for search engines metatags ? I am a
bit in the dark on what is best to include for search engines.  I
don't expect to be googles first page ranking just like many out there
to be found, instead of being the needle in the haystack being the
orange in the haystack.

This is entirely (and multiply) off-topic for a CSS discussion 
list, so the thread needs to end now, before it starts.  Thank you.

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:

 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me  
 whether the
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why,  
 if possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

#txtcol {clear:both}

I'm not clear exactly what Safari/WebKit is doing. From a quick look:   
the orange nav is 760px wide (on purpose ?), the wrapper (outer) is  
770px wide and Safari puts the #txtcol inside that 10px gap. Of course  
it overflows to the right.

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Re: [css-d] Newbie question on IE 7 menu bug

2008-10-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
MJ Kewley wrote:
 ... I'm wondering if someone could point me to which one of the 170 
 or so IE 7 bugs I might be dealing with here:
 
 http://dev.greatergreenville.com/csstesting/default3column.aspx

Stu Nicholl's menu isn't complete for IE7.

Add...
.globalmenu ul li {
position: relative;
}
.globalmenu ul ul li {
position: static;
}
...so IE7 knows what to position dropdowns in relation to, while
keeping the dropdown-stacking correct.

Next, delete...
.fixed-wide-none {
width: auto!important;
width: 800px;
}
...so that container can flex properly in IE6.

That will make both IE7 and IE6 behave reasonably well.


The missing /ul...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.greatergreenville.com%2Fcsstesting%2Fdefault3column.aspxcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inliness=1group=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.591
...isn't critical for performance, but should be fixed.

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Re: [css-d] A problem on safari

2008-10-16 Thread Vahis
Tim Dawson wrote:
 Could someone check this page on Mac/Safari, please, and tell me whether the 
 content is being 'floated' (?) way off to the right (and if so why, if 
 possible).

 http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/sealife/whales.php

 It's OK in FF3, IE7, and IE6.  A colleague reports the problem in Mac/Safari, 
 but I have no means of viewing it myself.

   
Here's one way to check with different browsers:

http://browsershots.org/

Att: They only let you do one check per day.

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Re: [css-d] DocType on page question.

2008-10-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Majestic wrote:
 I have come across some pages that do not used a DocType so does that
  mean you don't need a Doctype on a page

Only IE (and the validator) needs a doctype...
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_34.html
...although most web designers need a doctype to assure some consistency
across browser-land.

 and if so how do these pages work around this so that there page 
 validates ?

Generally: they don't.

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Re: [css-d] Left column problems in IE 6 @ 800x600

2008-10-16 Thread David Laakso
Mike Breiding wrote:
 IE 6 reduces the left margin enough to knock the left column navigation 
 to the bottom at resolution of 800x600

 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/
 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/ert_index_style.css


 Any ideas on how to fix this?

 Thanks,
 -Mike

   


Mike, the difficulty may be pixel width wrappers contained within a 
percent width parent wrapper-- affects all browsers at a narrow window, 
but only IE/6 drops the left nav.
Aside: the above uri for the style sheet does not point to the actual 
style sheet in use.

In the head of the document replace these styles:
#intro {margin-left: 50px; margin-bottom: -5px}
#intro p{width: 450px;}
img
{margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom:0}

with these styles:
#intro { border:1px solid red;/*test only*/ }
#intro p{margin: 0 25%;}
#intro img {max-width: 95%; display: block; margin: 10px auto;}
* html #intro img {width: 95%;}

In your external style sheet php-nav-index_style.css replace these styles:
#anchor {width: 100%; margin: 20px 0 15px 0;padding:}
#anchor blockquote p {color: #804000;font-size: 95%; margin-left: -30px}


With these styles:
#anchor {width: 100%; margin: 20px 0 15px 0;}
#anchor blockquote p {color: #804000;font-size: 95%; margin: 0 20%;}









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Re: [css-d] centring in IE7 and Sharepoint aspx master pages

2008-10-16 Thread David Laakso
miriam clinton (iriXx) wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm working on a design at the moment using the width + margin: auto;
 trick to centre the main container (in this case a table, ick, because i'm
 adapting a Sharepoint master page and dont want to go through too much
 hell figuring it out from scratch.

 My design works beautifully in Firefox - I begin the table tag just after
 the body tag and before the form tag on the aspx page, set width to
 80% and margin-auto. This has the effect of centring my table in Firefox
 but aligning it left in IE7.

 thanks
 iriXx
   

Dunno. Try:
body
div id=anchor
table
whatever else you got
/div!--/anchor--
/body

css
body {text-align: center;}
#anchor {width: 80%; margin: 0 auto;text-align: left;}

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Re: [css-d] Moving Layout

2008-10-16 Thread Nancy Johnson
This is a great article.  I was having the same problem with short
pages.  I had previously put a min-height in my footer which had a
transparent background and forced a scrollbar on each page, but this ,
 min-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 1px; , works better.

Nancy


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:26 AM, David Laakso
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 Adam Stemple wrote:
 www.passivepokerincome.com

 Hovering over login reveals the login using overflow:hidden.  In IE it works
 fine, but in FF it shifts the whole layout over.


 Thanks.



 See this article on correcting short page shift:
 http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=528A0



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Re: [css-d] not aligning in MSIE6

2008-10-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Goss Ito wrote:

 while in other browsers it seems to work perfectly, in IE6 the  id 
 container of the rating system is pushed under the span

 http://www.newdawnmedialtd.com/dev/jacquesbasilephotographie/

Delete...
.post-ratings { width:100%;}
...since IE6 fails to see what to calculate 100% of, and therefore makes
the element as wide as it can - too wide in your case.

Alternatively, add...
* html .post-ratings {width: 80px;}
...to give IE6 a clear message.

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Re: [css-d] Left column problems in IE 6 @ 800x600

2008-10-16 Thread Mike Breiding
David Laakso wrote:
 Mike Breiding wrote:
 IE 6 reduces the left margin enough to knock the left column 
 navigation to the bottom at resolution of 800x600

 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/
 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/ert_index_style.css
 Any ideas on how to fix this?

 Thanks,
 -Mike

 Mike, the difficulty may be pixel width wrappers contained within a 
 percent width parent wrapper-- affects all browsers at a narrow window, 
 but only IE/6 drops the left nav.
 Aside: the above uri for the style sheet does not point to the actual 
 style sheet in use.

Howdy,
Ooops. Sorry for the confusion.

I made the changes you suggested  below.
Ok in FF but in IE the images area stretched at widths over 800px.
SS:http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/streach_in_IE.jpg

After implementing and checking your changes I made these changes:
In order to reduce the width and center the #content p
I removed:
div#content p {color:#000;padding:0px 5px;border:none;}
And changed:
div#content p {margin: 6px 0;} to
div#content p {margin:6px  auto; width: 75%}
This had the desired effect and did not seem to effect anything else.

I attempted to add margins to the top and bottom of .pushImgLeft images 
by changing this:
.pushImgLeft {position: relative; margin-left: -85px;} to
.pushImgLeft {position: relative; margin-left: -85px; margin-bottom:0; 
margin-top: 20px}

But I could see no difference.
The photos are a little tight to the bottom of the p to suit me.

As always,Thanks.
-Mike.

 
 In the head of the document replace these styles:
 #intro {margin-left: 50px; margin-bottom: -5px}
 #intro p{width: 450px;}
 img
 {margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom:0}
 
 with these styles:
 #intro { border:1px solid red;/*test only*/ }
 #intro p{margin: 0 25%;}
 #intro img {max-width: 95%; display: block; margin: 10px auto;}
 * html #intro img {width: 95%;}
 
 In your external style sheet php-nav-index_style.css replace these styles:
 #anchor {width: 100%; margin: 20px 0 15px 0;padding:}
 #anchor blockquote p {color: #804000;font-size: 95%; margin-left: -30px}
 
 
 With these styles:
 #anchor {width: 100%; margin: 20px 0 15px 0;}
 #anchor blockquote p {color: #804000;font-size: 95%; margin: 0 20%;}
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[css-d] Problem with Firefox and images as links

2008-10-16 Thread Karlo Lozovina
Hi all.

I have an A tag, with one IMG tag inside. If I set IMG property
display to block,
in Firefox the link area seems much bigger than the image itself. For
example, here
the link area is as wide as the page:

http://www.mosor.net/ff

Opera and IE don't have a problem with this. I can work around this by using
`vertical-align: bottom` instead of `display: block`, or by wrapping
the link tag in a DIV,
and setting DIVs' width manually. But all of this doesn't seem right,
is there a better
way of fixing this?

Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] Problem with Firefox and images as links

2008-10-16 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith
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From: Karlo Lozovina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [css-d] Problem with Firefox and images as links


 http://www.mosor.net/ff

 But all of this doesn't seem right,
 is there a better
 way of fixing this?

 Thanks.

 Mosor

Mosor:

Might I suggest you first start by using an imbedded or separate style sheet 
for your CSS, rather than using inline styles. As you build your site(s), 
you'll have an uneditible spaghetti mess of a tag soup otherwise. BTW there 
doesn't seem to be a huge difference between IE8, FF3 (which render the 
same) and O9 for me. Reset CSS such as,

*{margin: 0; padding: 0;}

...and...

img, a img, :link img, :visited img{border: none;}

resolve some of these issues.

Peter
www.fatpawdesign.com
developed in: WinXP/SP2 + FF3.0.3 at 1280x1024
checked in: IE8.0beta/O9.52/Av11.6/Cr0.2
In God we trust, all else bring data... 

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Re: [css-d] Problem with Firefox and images as links

2008-10-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Karlo Lozovina wrote:

 If I set IMG property display to block, in Firefox the link area 
 seems much bigger than the image itself.

 http://www.mosor.net/ff

Solution depends on scenario.

If, as it seems, you want a default or declared block-element inside an
anchor to line up inline, with anchor tightly around the block-element,
the most natural would be to declare...
a {display: inline-block;}

To get Firefox 2.x in on the game you can declare...
a {display: -moz-inline-box; display: inline-block;}
...since pre-3 versions of Firefox don't support 'display:inline-block'.

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Re: [css-d] Left column problems in IE 6 @ 800x600

2008-10-16 Thread David Laakso
Mike Breiding wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
   
 Mike Breiding wrote:
 
 IE 6 reduces the left margin enough to knock the left column 
 navigation to the bottom at resolution of 800x600

 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/
 http://epicroadtrips.us/2007/summer/california/ert_index_style.css
 Any ideas on how to fix this?

 Thanks,
 -Mike

   
 Mike, the difficulty may be pixel width wrappers contained within a 
 percent width parent wrapper...trimmed]
 


 I made the changes you suggested  below.
 Ok in FF but in IE the images area stretched at widths over 800px.

 After implementing and checking your changes I made these changes:...trimmed]
   

 I attempted to add margins to the top and bottom of .pushImgLeft 
 images...trimmed] 

 But I could see no difference.
 The photos are a little tight to the bottom of the p to suit me.


 -Mike.

   





Comment out or delete this entire selector.
.pushImgLeft {position: relative; margin-left: -85px; margin-bottom:0; 
margin-top: 120px;border: 1px solid red;}

Re-set width:
div#content{f width75%;}:/*was 70%*/

Add new selector to contain the width in IE/6.0:
* html div#content{overflow-x:hidden;}

Delete both of these selectors to prevent the image distortion:
#intro img {max-width: 95%; display: block; margin: 10px auto;}
* html #intro img {width: 95%;}

Re-set this selector:
#intro img {display: block; margin: 10px auto;}
to (and tweak the top and bottom margin to get the horizontal gutters 
separating the images/captions text as you see fit):
#intro img {display: block; margin: 45px auto 20px auto;}





















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[css-d] Safari problem?

2008-10-16 Thread Dave Pierce
Hi, s'been a lng time. Trying to stay out of this part of the  
field and stick with illustration, but no can do for my biggest client.

Aforementioned client got in touch, and a web site they have has  
gotten messed up somehow, and nobody knows why...including me.
The HTML is good, except in the Flash insert section, and the CSS is  
OK too, except where there's no colors given, or they are set for  
transparent. Not my problem, in this case, let their graphics guy  
handle it.

The problem is that the three lists at the bottom don't line up in  
Safari. They DO line up in Firefox and Opera. Haven't checked 'em in  
IE versions yet.

Anyone out there see what may be going on?

http://www.lorettoheritage.org/

Thanks in Advance!

;-Dave



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