[css-d] Help - images being pushed in IE 7

2008-12-15 Thread u24y...@gmail.com


Hi to all

I'm creating a new web site using css
I'm using a hybrid - 2 columns with the left fixed (position  
absolute) and the main one using %  ems (position relative)

I have 8 pages all working from the same template that I have created  
using an external style sheet.

I'm just working on the index page to set-up the template.

Problem:
The site looks great on a Mac –– using safari, firefox, explorer #5

The only problem is with explorer  with the footer.
I have 2 images with a single line of text between the images, all  
centered
The 2 images are about 2 inches below the line of text?

On a PC, no problem with any of the other browsers except explorer 7.
This time the images are in their proper position in the footer, but  
the text below which is in a smaller size, isn't lining up to centre,  
but the images are?

The really big concern is the side navigating  bar image and the css  
text is being pushed about 3 inches toward the centre which destroys  
the whole lay-out on the page.
This is only happening on a pc using explorier 7.

I'm wondering what explorer bugs am I encountering and what hacks I  
need to write in.

The other problem that I have with all browsers on both mac  pc is  
that the Image behind the navigation bar doesn't repeat as the main  
body text increases in size. I have it set to repeat on the y axes.

I've read that explorer doesn't like padding so I've stayed away from  
using any at all.

I'm still new at this so any ideas would be great.

You can view the site at this url

http://www.drbjornsauto.com/index_01.html

Thanks

chris








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Re: [css-d] Help - images being pushed in IE 7

2008-12-15 Thread Rasal Postill
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:33:59 -0800, u24y...@gmail.com wrote:

| http://www.drbjornsauto.com/index_01.html

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drbjornsauto.com%2Findex_01.html
shows 25 errors.

Suggest you fix these first.
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Re: [css-d] Banner width 1px less than page width

2008-12-15 Thread Dermot Ward
Thank you David.

I thought there might be some bug workaround going on so thanks for 
clearing things up.



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[css-d] Problem with float?

2008-12-15 Thread Marty Martin
On this page- http://southerncommunityguide.com/dev/landing-gallery.html
the first div class=sidebar (with the St. James logo) should be floated up
beside the div class=gallery (big photo) but for some reason I can't get
it to get up there.  I have floats set but still...it won't go.

Can someone spot check me and see what I'm forgetting?

Thanks!

Marty Martin
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Re: [css-d] image display issue...something silly, I'm sure

2008-12-15 Thread Ray Leventhal
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 please) nudge in the right direction.
 

 In the html code: div id=hcenterimage
 In the stylesheet: div#hcenterimg

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Hi Philippe,

I did say I'd gone blind, eh?  Thanks so much for the gentle nudge...another 
set of eyes was definitely needed.

Now I'm off to get it in line and contained :)

Kindest regards,
-Ray

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Re: [css-d] Help - images being pushed in IE 7

2008-12-15 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:33:59 -0800, u24y...@gmail.com wrote:

[...]

 The really big concern is the side navigating  bar image and the css text is 
 being
 pushed about 3 inches toward the centre which destroys the whole lay-out on 
 the page.
 This is only happening on a pc using explorier 7.

 I'm wondering what explorer bugs am I encountering and what hacks I need to 
 write in.

 The other problem that I have with all browsers on both mac  pc is that the 
 Image
 behind the navigation bar doesn't repeat as the main body text increases in 
 size. I
 have it set to repeat on the y axes.

 I've read that explorer doesn't like padding so I've stayed away from using 
 any at all.

 I'm still new at this so any ideas would be great.

 You can view the site at this url

 http://www.drbjornsauto.com/index_01.html


The bugs you are encountering are in your code, not the browser.

There are conflicting rules for #sidebar1, forcing browses to guess.
You have a float declaration followed by position: absolute;
- but you have no position specified, forcing browsers to guess.
Delete the float declaration, and give it the top and left that
you want, and browsers will then agree.

Declaring  base font in EMs triggers the extreme font sizing bug
in IE. I suggest you use a base font of 100%, or you may have other
problems with text sizes.

As has been mentioned, you have errors in both HTML and CSS.
I suggest you validate before posting your next query.

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] Help - images being pushed in IE 7

2008-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
u24y...@gmail.com wrote:

Once you have cleaned up the source-code - as has already been pointed
at - you can look for solutions to the more CSS related problems.

 The only problem is with explorer  with the footer. I have 2 images 
 with a single line of text between the images, all centered The 2 
 images are about 2 inches below the line of text?

Delete the 'vertical-align: -25%;' you have on those images. IE/Mac
can't handle it as intended - see below.

 On a PC, no problem with any of the other browsers except explorer 7.
  This time the images are in their proper position in the footer, but
  the text below which is in a smaller size, isn't lining up to 
 centre, but the images are?

I'm not sure how you want those images to line up with the text, but I
suggest you try 'vertical-align: middle;'. Will align text/images the
same in all browsers, I think, and even IE/Mac can handle that style.

 The really big concern is the side navigating  bar image and the css 
 text is being pushed about 3 inches toward the centre which destroys 
 the whole lay-out on the page. This is only happening on a pc using 
 explorier 7.
 
 I'm wondering what explorer bugs am I encountering and what hacks I 
 need to write in.

Somewhat wrong approach.

1: an element can either be absolute positioned or floated - not both,
since absolute positioned elements can't float.

2: if you choose absolute positioning for the #sidebar1, then you also
have to declare 'left: 0;' on it as IE/win will otherwise not know where
to position that element and places it where it falls.

I suggest you float #sidebar1, like in my example below.

 The other problem that I have with all browsers on both mac  pc is 
 that the Image behind the navigation bar doesn't repeat as the main 
 body text increases in size. I have it set to repeat on the y axes.

The height of #sidebar1 is unaffected by the height of other elements,
and background can't go outside its own element.
For solutions: google for faux columns, or apply Equal Height Columns...
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/equalheight
...as I have in the example below.

 I've read that explorer doesn't like padding so I've stayed away from
  using any at all.

Only true for IE in quirks mode - related to IE's proprietary box model.
IE6 and later versions are in standards mode for your page, and
therefore use the W3C box model same as all other browsers.

 http://www.drbjornsauto.com/index_01.html

Example that'll render the same in all browsers:
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/nm/test_08_1215.html
...all major CSS corrections / additions here...
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/nm/test_08_1215_files/index000.css
Not intended for copy and paste.

I have removed all unnecessary relative and absolute positioning from
the CSS, and also all superfluous br / and pnbsp;/p from the
source-code in this example.

(The source-code is clean apart from that I have butchered some of your
UTF-8 coding. It didn't play well with my editor's default settings and
I didn't bother to change settings...

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunlaug.no%2Ftos%2Falien%2Fnm%2Ftest_08_1215.htmlcharset=utf-8doctype=Inliness=1group=0user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.606

I have also partially ignored IE/Mac, since that old bugger will need
special treatment the way I have styled my example :-) )

regards
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[css-d] IE6 Win list-style problem

2008-12-15 Thread Brett
I have a feature box containing a ul which I want styled with bullets.  
For some reason, the bullets are not showing up in IE6 Win, they do show 
up in FF2 Win, FF3 Mac, Safari 3.2 Mac, and Opera 9.5 Mac.  Following is 
an excerpt from my stylesheet.

li.farray {
width: 100px;
float: left;
color: #66;
margin-right:0px;
margin-left:30px;
_margin-left:15px;
}
#features ul.featurearray {
width: 280px;
overflow:hidden;
background-color:#DDD;
border:1px #777 solid;
padding-top: 10px;
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#features ul li {
list-style:disc;
}

To increase specificity I have even tried:

#wrapper #container #content #maincontent #features ul.featurearray {
list_style:disc;
}


and about every other permutation, none will cause IE6 Win to display a 
bullet.  Can anyone make a suggestion?

To state the obvious, I have checked all ul definitions in all 
stylesheets, specifically any stylesheets and definitions that are 
loaded *after* this.

Going crazy!!
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[css-d] alignment question

2008-12-15 Thread Angela French
If I have a container div that is  400px high and I place another div
inside it that is only 200px high and want the next one to sit at the
bottom of its parent container, what css property should I use?  I tried
vertical-alignment:bottom, and vertica;-alignment:baseline in the parent
container, but I can't get that child div to sit at the bottom.

 

Any suggestion appreciated.  

 

Angela French

Internet Specialist

State Board for Community  Technical Colleges

360-704-4316

http://www.checkoutacollege.com

http://www.sbctc.ctc.edu

 

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[css-d] Horizontal nav displays vertically in IE

2008-12-15 Thread Kim Brooks Wei
Hi People,

I've noticed that in a few IE browsers [not sure which version/s] my 
horizontal menu is displaying as a vertical list. In those browsers, 
the default style type shows ups too. What's a more reliable way of 
creating the effect I'm after?

http://tinyurl.com/64pxaz

Help appreciated muchly as always
Kimi

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[css-d] mystery gap plaguing me

2008-12-15 Thread Scott Thigpen
I have a mystery gap in my website and I can't figure out what's going on.
Could someone tell me what the root cause of it is?  I've tried everything I
know but can't figure out what is giving me grief

here is the site
http://www.sthig.com/unisource/

here is the css
http://www.sthig.com/unisource/style.css

best
scott

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Re: [css-d] Horizontal nav displays vertically in IE

2008-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kim Brooks Wei wrote:

 I've noticed that in a few IE browsers [not sure which version/s] my
  horizontal menu is displaying as a vertical list.

IE7 and older don't support CSS table display-values. You have to feed
them some additional 'display: inline-block' trickery. See below.

 http://tinyurl.com/64pxaz

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/kbw/test_08_1215.html
CSS:
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/kbw/test_08_1215_files/bc4hkids.css

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Re: [css-d] mystery gap plaguing me

2008-12-15 Thread David Laakso
Scott Thigpen wrote:
 I have a mystery gap in my website and I can't figure out what's going on.
 Could someone tell me what the root cause of it is?  I've tried everything I
 know but can't figure out what is giving me grief

 http://www.sthig.com/unisource/



 best
 scott
   




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#side_top {
border: 1px solid lime/*4 position only*/;
height: 16px;
background: url(images/right_top.jpg) top right no-repeat;  
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Re: [css-d] Horizontal nav displays vertically in IE

2008-12-15 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Kim Brooks Wei wrote:
 I've noticed that in a few IE browsers [not sure which version/s] my 
 horizontal menu is displaying as a vertical list. In those browsers, 
 the default style type shows ups too. What's a more reliable way of 
 creating the effect I'm after?

See the (horizontal) list tutorials at http://css.maxdesign.com.au/

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[css-d] drop down menu fixed position?

2008-12-15 Thread Kitty Garrett
Hello all,

Is it possible to keep a drop down menu displaying once you have  
arrived at the page? For e.g., from the index page you click a link  
for the Results page.
When you get to that page, can the drop down menu display  
permanently,  cancelling the disappearing rollover effect? It seems  
to me that this must have to do with the display, but I am not getting  
it?

Thanks for any help or direction to instructions.

KittyG


 http://www.prettygoodwebsites.com/phchelp/results.htm

 http://www.prettygoodwebsites.com/phchelp/phc_stylin.css


BTW, if it's helpful to anyone, the best answer to my last problem  
turned out to be:

Try adding:

ul ul {padding: 0;}

 Can anyone help me with why the drop downs are not centered
 under the links? They are off to the right. They are supposed to be
 centered.


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