[css-d] Table with expanding detail rows

2009-02-27 Thread dimpie
Hi,
In a table I have detailrows which appear when you click on a regular row in 
the table. The amount of table cells in the detail row is not equal to the 
amount of table cells in the regular rows. Besides that I want to give the 
tablecells in the detail row different widths than the tablecells in the 
regular rows.

What I did is create a details table row tr with a classname details, and 
give the table cells different widths , but that doesn't work.
I also created a table with tbody around each tr. But that doesn't work 
either.

I am wondering if there is a way to get this result? What is the correct way to 
do this?
Please have a look at my attempts: http://www.glassbox.nl/test/table.html.

CSS
table#one {width: 600px; margin: 20px auto;}
table#one th {text-align: left;}
table#one td {width: 33%;  background: pink;}
table#one tr.details td {background: aqua;  width: 50%;}

table#two {width: 600px; margin: 20px auto;}
table#two th {text-align: left;}
table#two td {width: 33%;  background: goldenrod;}
table#two tr.details td {background: lightblue; width: 50%;}
th {background: yellow;}

XHTML
 table id=one
  thead
   trthEen/ththTwee/ththDrie/th/tr
  /thead
  tbody
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
   tr class=detailstddetails/tdtddetails/td/tr
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
  /tbody
 /table

 table id=two
  thead
   trthEen/ththTwee/ththDrie/th/tr
  /thead
  tbody
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
  /tbody
  tbody
   tr class=detailstddetails/tdtddetails/td/tr
  /tbody
  tbody
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
  /tbody
  tbody
   trtdeen/tdtdtwee/tdtddrie/td/tr
  /tbody
 /table

Thanks in advance.
Dimitri
. 

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[css-d] Is a missing ; OK?

2009-02-27 Thread Ian Piper
Hi all,

I am building on a style sheet for a Drupal website. I have noticed  
that in the styles.css file for the theme many of the styles have no  
; at the end of the line. This seems mostly to be where there is  
more than one line between the braces, like so:


#primarylinks a:hover {
background:#7d9eac;
text-decoration:none
}

I had always thought that the terminating ; was mandatory. Can  
someone advise me?

Thanks,


Ian.
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Re: [css-d] Is a missing ; OK?

2009-02-27 Thread Els
Ian Piper wrote:

 I had always thought that the terminating ; was mandatory. Can
 someone advise me?

It is not mandatory on the last rule in a set, but it is on the other 
ones, needed as separation between rules.
It is advisable to use them on all of them though, so that if you add 
another one after the last one, you don't forget to add the ; on 
what is now the second last one in the set.

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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 75, Issue 26

2009-02-27 Thread peter . twiggs

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Re: [css-d] Is a missing ; OK?

2009-02-27 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Hi,

According to CSS 2.1 section 4.1.8, Declarations and properties
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#declaration  the semicolon is
used to separate multiple declarations for the same selector.

As the last declaration in a declaration block isn't followed by anything
from which it needs to be separated, it doesn't need the semicolon. In the
case of a declaration that is _not_ the last, it would be an error to omit
the semicolon.

Personally, I'd recommend including the semicolon every time. When
somebody goes to modify the stylesheet in the future and adds a
declaration at the end of the block, they may well not notice the lack of
it; as a result, not only would their new declaration not be applied, but
the formerly-last declaration would also suddenly stop working. It's
little things like this that can lead to hours of head-scratching :-(

Regards,

Nick.

On Fri, February 27, 2009 3:29 pm, Ian Piper wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am building on a style sheet for a Drupal website. I have noticed
 that in the styles.css file for the theme many of the styles have no
 ; at the end of the line. This seems mostly to be where there is
 more than one line between the braces, like so:


 #primarylinks a:hover {
 background:#7d9eac;
 text-decoration:none
 }

 I had always thought that the terminating ; was mandatory. Can
 someone advise me?

 Thanks,


 Ian.
 --
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 Tellura Information Services - the web, document and information people
 Registered in England and Wales: 5076715, VAT Number: 874 2060 29
 http://www.tellura.co.uk/
 01926 811574 | 07590 685840
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[css-d] changing languages for a phrase

2009-02-27 Thread Sandy
I am working on a French/English site and each side has words in the 
other language. I want to make sure that screen readers switch languages 
for those isolated phrases.

Is this the correct syntax for the language declaration
span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span

Does the language declaration has to be in a span? Is it possible to do
it like this span class=frenchje ne sais quoi/span and have a
style on an external style sheet link

.french {
lang : fr;
font-style: italic;
}

I tried
lang {
font-style: italic;
}

but it doesn't seem to work.

thanks all,
Sandy


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Re: [css-d] Table with expanding detail rows

2009-02-27 Thread snak detek+0r
Dimpie,

the only way to have a tr that is non-conforming in terms of widths or 
number of cells is to use tons of colspans. a picure's worth a thousand 
words:

http://tinyurl.com/bf7uys

trs are shown in turquoise. desired end-user cells in white. actual 
cell (column) divisions required are shown by red lines. this requires 
colspans, shown in yellow.

basically this means that you end up with extra divistions and 
subsequent colspans cutting through NOT ONLY your non-conforming cells, 
but ANY cell that lines up with their non-conforming edges. these things 
can grow huge and messy like a hydra. for example, in my diagram, rows 
either have 3 or 4 cells each -- but the table structure needs to end up 
having 6 cells! i also always have the hardest time placing colspans 
within the table code. it's very unintuitive unless you use dreamweaver 
or something to do it for you.

the easy cheat for this is to use a second, inner table where your 
your 'details' row would be. ie:

table
   tr
 tdnbsp;/td
 tdnbsp;/td
   /tr
   tr
 td colspan=2
 table
   tr
 tdnbsp;/td
 tdnbsp;/td
 tdnbsp;/td
   /tr
 /table
 /td
   /tr
   tr
 tdnbsp;/td
 tdnbsp;/td
   /tr
/table

having said all that, i'm pretty sure that a lot of the people on this 
list would use divs for all of it. divs are a lot more modern, by which 
i mean more obedient and more flexible, than tables. the common logic of 
separation of page structure and page content implies that tables are 
appropriate if and only if you're using tabular data -- but i think a 
lot of us give up on the table as soon as it has to be hacked. but 
perhaps your data isn't that tabular?



hope that helps.

josh


 What I did is create a details table row tr with a classname details, and 
 give the table cells different widths , but that doesn't work.
 I also created a table with tbody around each tr. But that doesn't work 
 either.
 
 I am wondering if there is a way to get this result? What is the correct way 
 to do this?
 Please have a look at my attempts: http://www.glassbox.nl/test/table.html.
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Re: [css-d] changing languages for a phrase

2009-02-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sandy wrote:

 Is this the correct syntax for the language declaration span 
 lang=frje ne sais quoi/span

Yes.

 Does the language declaration has to be in a span? Is it possible to 
 do it like this span class=frenchje ne sais quoi/span and have 
 a style on an external style sheet link

Any element will do.

In the stylesheet, target the element with span:lang(fr){/*styles*/} or
whatever element you choose. A universal selector will also do, like
*:lang(fr){/*styles*/}, as long as you make sure you target the document
area you want, like for example #content *:lang(fr){/*styles*/}.

Note that IE7 and older don't support :lang(). IE8 and others are fine.

regards
Georg
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[css-d] Stack level in IE (problem with position:absolute and z-index)

2009-02-27 Thread Francois Jordaan
This IE quirk seems to catch me on nearly every project:

http://paper.isotoma.com/examples/_test-position.html

It comes down to the stacking model. All I remember from last time I
struggled with this is it's well-nigh impossible to work around. I really,
really want Item 3 to be above Item 2, but Item 2 *must* be
position:relative.

Anyone have a quick suggestion, something I might be missing?

Thanks,

francois

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Re: [css-d] changing languages for a phrase

2009-02-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Sandy wrote:

 I am working on a French/English site and each side has words in the
 other language. I want to make sure that screen readers switch
 languages for those isolated phrases.

That's a noble goal, but it's a matter of HTML markup (using the lang or 
xml:lang attribute or both). There's no way in CSS (as currently defined) to 
specify the language of text; you can only utilize the language as declared 
in HTML or XML.

 Is this the correct syntax for the language declaration
 span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span

Yes,

 Does the language declaration has to be in a span?

No, it can be in any element. But that's external to CSS.

 Is it possible to
 do it like this span class=frenchje ne sais quoi/span and have a
 style on an external style sheet link

 .french {
 lang : fr;
 font-style: italic;
 }

No, there is no lang property in CSS. Declaration of language is regarded as 
content (metadata), not a stylistic suggestion.

You can _use_ the language declaration made in HTML or XML in your CSS code. 
But that's a different issue.

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[css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Eric Katz
So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't either of
my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in the Products by
Genre Window here:
http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/

The lists of genres and the products are supposed to look something like
this:
http://www.akathletics.com/images/intialsetcopy/akathleticsNewSitev8.jpg

And in Firefox they are flying all the way horizontal and in internet
explorer they are just listing straight down the page.

I also have some jquery tabs set up in a way that should be only displaying
the correct div selected via the genre, and in internet explorer it
completely ignores the jquery.

Any ideas.
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Re: [css-d] changing languages for a phrase

2009-02-27 Thread Sandy

 Is this the correct syntax for the language declaration span 
 lang=frje ne sais quoi/span
 
 
 Yes.
 
 Does the language declaration has to be in a span? Is it possible to 
 do it like this span class=frenchje ne sais quoi/span and have a 
 style on an external style sheet link
 
 
 Any element will do.
 
 In the stylesheet, target the element with span:lang(fr){/*styles*/} or
 whatever element you choose. A universal selector will also do, like
 *:lang(fr){/*styles*/}, as long as you make sure you target the document
 area you want, like for example #content *:lang(fr){/*styles*/}.
 
 Note that IE7 and older don't support :lang(). IE8 and others are fine.

One more question about this - if I have an image on the page and the 
text contained in the image is English, so it looks something like this

img src=images/english.jpg alt=some English text /

should it read

img src=images/english.jpg lang=en alt=some English text /

so that the alt tag gets read with the right accent? or should the image 
get nested in a span?

span lang=enimg src=images/english.jpg alt=some English text 
//span

thanks!
Sandy
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Re: [css-d] changing languages for a phrase

2009-02-27 Thread Dan Gayle
 Is it possible to
 do it like this span class=frenchje ne sais quoi/span and have a
 style on an external style sheet link

 .french {
 lang : fr;
 font-style: italic;
 }

You can use attribute selectors though:

*[LANG=fr] { font-style: italic; }

Will not work, obviously, in some of our geriatric browsers. But at  
least they will simply ignore it.
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Re: [css-d] Stack level in IE (problem with position:absolute andz-index)

2009-02-27 Thread Els
Francois Jordaan wrote:

 This IE quirk seems to catch me on nearly every project:

 http://paper.isotoma.com/examples/_test-position.html

 It comes down to the stacking model. All I remember from last time I
 struggled with this is it's well-nigh impossible to work around. I
 really, really want Item 3 to be above Item 2, but Item 2 *must* be
 position:relative.

 Anyone have a quick suggestion, something I might be missing?

If you give Item 2 z-index:-1, it looks like it works.
Not tested for possible side-effects when more content is involved.

-- 
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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread David Laakso
Eric Katz wrote:
 So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't either of
 my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in the Products by
 Genre Window here:
 http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/


 Any ideas.

   


Attack the obvious first while we both wait for someone to actually 
solve the problem(s) :-) . Validate.

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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Eric Katz
Because I am a noob and forget to reply to all, what do you mean by
Validate? :(

2009/2/27 Eric Katz xtinct.k...@gmail.com

 I'm using the

  #specific-products li:before {
 content: »;
 }

 and

 #genres li:after {
 content: |;

 }

 to add the additional double arrows and pipes i want for the lists but they
 appear way off line, i feel like this is probably because of the line-height
 adjustments I made but without that then the lines are spread out too far.

 -Eric Katz

 2009/2/27 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com

 Eric Katz wrote:

 So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't either
 of
 my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in the Products by
 Genre Window here:
 http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/


 Any ideas.





 Attack the obvious first while we both wait for someone to actually solve
 the problem(s) :-) . Validate.

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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Shawn Lawler
Eric Katz wrote:
 Because I am a noob and forget to reply to all, what do you mean by
 Validate? :(
   


http://validator.w3.org/

or if you're using Firefox, grab the Web Developer Toolbar addon
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60

and after adding it to FF, load up your page and select the 'Tools' menu 
for a few validation options.

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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread MEM
 I'm using the

 #specific-products li:before {
 content: »;
 }

 and

 #genres li:after {
 content: |;

 }

 to add the additional double arrows and pipes i want for the lists but
they
 appear way off line, i feel like this is probably because of the
line-height
 adjustments I made but without that then the lines are spread out too
far.

 -Eric Katz

 2009/2/27 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com

 Eric Katz wrote:

 So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't either
 of
 my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in the Products by
 Genre Window here:
 http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/


 Any ideas.





 Attack the obvious first while we both wait for someone to actually solve
 the problem(s) :-) . Validate.

 --

 A thin red line and a salmon-color ampersand forthcoming.

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/





2009/2/27 Eric Katz xtinct.k...@gmail.com Wrote:

Because I am a noob and forget to reply to all, what do you mean by
Validate? :(


I believe you must use w3c Validator to see the errors. Correct them. And if
you see your issues don't disappear, post here the questions.

Regards,
Márcio




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Re: [css-d] Stack level in IE (problem with position:absolute andz-index)

2009-02-27 Thread Francois Jordaan
Hi Els,

 If you give Item 2 z-index:-1, it looks like it works.
 Not tested for possible side-effects when more content is involved.

I whooped with joy ...briefly. This is a miraculous fix in *some* cases
(where there is a predictable number of items), but in my case,
unfortunately all the sibling divs (Items 1 and 2) must have the same
z-index. There's an unpredictable number of items, see, and therefore a
single CSS rule must cover them all.

Still, this is very useful to know. z-index: 0 also works, incidentally. It
just has to be lower than its sibling.

francois

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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread David Laakso
Eric Katz wrote:
 Because I am a noob and forget to reply to all, what do you mean by 
 Validate?



Correct the markup errors:
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fteam-identity.org%2Fakathletics%2Fnewcode%2F

Wikipedia on validation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3C_Markup_Validation_Service

w3c Markup Validation Service
http://validator.w3.org/

w3c CSS Validation Service
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/





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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Eric Katz
So I think I fixed everything and validated via HTML 4.01 strict and CSS 2.1

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/

And it still is having display issues, firefox and ie look completely
different.

-Eric Katz

2009/2/27 Eric Katz xtinct.k...@gmail.com

 Oh okay, definietly ;D sorry guys im just so out of it, I had an abcess on
 my head a few days ago and I am still loopy from the drugs and stuff after
 they cut it out.

 Thanks,
 Eric Katz

 2009/2/27 MEM tal...@gmail.com

  I'm using the
 
  #specific-products li:before {
  content: »;
  }
 
  and
 
  #genres li:after {
  content: |;
 
  }
 
  to add the additional double arrows and pipes i want for the lists but
 they
  appear way off line, i feel like this is probably because of the
 line-height
  adjustments I made but without that then the lines are spread out too
 far.
 
  -Eric Katz
 
  2009/2/27 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
 
  Eric Katz wrote:
 
  So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't
 either
  of
  my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in the Products
 by
  Genre Window here:
  http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/
 
 
  Any ideas.
 
 
 
 
 
  Attack the obvious first while we both wait for someone to actually
 solve
  the problem(s) :-) . Validate.
 
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  A thin red line and a salmon-color ampersand forthcoming.
 
  http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
 
 
 


 2009/2/27 Eric Katz xtinct.k...@gmail.com Wrote:
 
 Because I am a noob and forget to reply to all, what do you mean by
 Validate? :(


 I believe you must use w3c Validator to see the errors. Correct them. And
 if
 you see your issues don't disappear, post here the questions.

 Regards,
 Márcio






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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Eric Katz wrote:
 So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't
 either of my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in
 the Products by Genre Window here: 
 http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/

Same as for the part above: IE7 and older need a hack to render *as*
inline-block. Also some margins and paddings to fix for intended line-up...

#genres {
width:675px;
margin:0 auto;
list-style:none;
text-align: center;
padding: 0 0 8px 0;
}

#genres li {
   display:-moz-inline-box;
display:inline-block;
padding:0 10px;
margin: 3px 0;
border-right: solid 1px #bbb;
   vertical-align: bottom;
}

/* fix IE6 */
* html #genres li {display: inline;}
/* fix IE7 */
*+html #genres li {display: inline;}

#genres h3 {
font-size:1em;
color:#929292;
margin: 0;
}

*Important*: keep the non-valid 'display:-moz-inline-box;' in there, or
else all the numerous browsers based on slightly older Gecko engines
will not render it well - see Philippe's post on earlier case for your
layout.
Working solutions _are_ more important than validity in such cases.

BTW: why are you using an h3 in those lists? I can't see any reason
whatsoever for headlines to be used there, but maybe you have one..?

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] First element of list hiding for some reason

2009-02-27 Thread Keith DiSarno
 Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:00 PM, JR Heard ewingpatria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Els:

 You are a fantastic person. Looks like that was the root cause after
 all - I can now see AdBrite again. I owe you a beer.

 -JR


Something funny is going on here.  I can't see it either. I swear that I
have never been to your site, nor ever remember ad-blocking or even visiting
a site that had that logo on it. (I can see it if I put the .png location in
the address bar.)

Yet, to my amazement, it is listed in red as a blocked item in AB+.


- Keith
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Re: [css-d] Is a missing ; OK?

2009-02-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-
 discuss.org] On Behalf Of Ian Piper
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:30 AM
 To: css-d css-d
 Subject: [css-d] Is a missing ; OK?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am building on a style sheet for a Drupal website. I have noticed
 that in the styles.css file for the theme many of the styles have no
 ; at the end of the line. This seems mostly to be where there is
 more than one line between the braces, like so:
 
 
 #primarylinks a:hover {
 background:#7d9eac;
 text-decoration:none
 }
 
 I had always thought that the terminating ; was mandatory. Can
 someone advise me?

It is not mandatory, but if the last declaration is skipped for some reason
then Safari 2 could not recover and drop most of the stylesheet (depending
where the rule is).

For example:

#primarylinks a:hover {
 background:#7d9eac;
 text-decoration:none;
 _text-decoration:underline
}


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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Eric Katz
2009/2/27 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net

 Eric Katz wrote:

 So I think I have really screwed up some stuff right now, i can't
 either of my lists formatted properly the way I want them to be in
 the Products by Genre Window here:
 http://team-identity.org/akathletics/newcode/


 Same as for the part above: IE7 and older need a hack to render *as*
 inline-block. Also some margins and paddings to fix for intended line-up...

 #genres {
   width:675px;
   margin:0 auto;
   list-style:none;
   text-align: center;
   padding: 0 0 8px 0;
 }

 #genres li {
  display:-moz-inline-box;
   display:inline-block;
   padding:0 10px;
   margin: 3px 0;
   border-right: solid 1px #bbb;
  vertical-align: bottom;
 }

 /* fix IE6 */
 * html #genres li {display: inline;}
 /* fix IE7 */
 *+html #genres li {display: inline;}

 #genres h3 {
font-size:1em;
color:#929292;
margin: 0;
 }

 *Important*: keep the non-valid 'display:-moz-inline-box;' in there, or
 else all the numerous browsers based on slightly older Gecko engines
 will not render it well - see Philippe's post on earlier case for your
 layout.
 Working solutions _are_ more important than validity in such cases.

 BTW: why are you using an h3 in those lists? I can't see any reason
 whatsoever for headlines to be used there, but maybe you have one..?

 regards
Georg
 --
 http://www.gunlaug.no


I guess they don't have to be there ^_^ I wanted it set up so the 'genres'
were an h3 in relevance to what the actual site is for, selling the products
which are set up with h2 tags in their respective lists, with h1 being the
'our genre products,'  and of course the h1s at the top of the page that
make up the original list buttons i had set up. Do you think this is a poor
idea, or ? I really just started playing with it not sure how seo friendly
it is or if its even all that proper. I went ahead and put the -moz
inline-block hack again.

Also do you know any reason why my javascript tabs set up through jquery
aren't showing properly in internet explorer? Maybe it has to do with the
other list problems I have already set up with the target #divs each link in
#genres are supposed to display.

Eric Katz
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Re: [css-d] css list

2009-02-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Eric Katz wrote:
 2009/2/27 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net

 BTW: why are you using an h3 in those lists? I can't see any 
 reason whatsoever for headlines to be used there, but maybe you 
 have one..?
 

 I guess they don't have to be there ^_^ I wanted it set up so the 
 'genres' were an h3 in relevance to what the actual site is for, 
 selling the products which are set up with h2 tags in their 
 respective lists, with h1 being the 'our genre products,'  and of 
 course the h1s at the top of the page that make up the original list
  buttons i had set up. Do you think this is a poor idea, or ?

Superfluous markup should in most cases be removed to avoid clutter and
unnecessary styling, and I do think those headlines in list-items
wrapping links are superfluous and misplaced. Those links are not
headlines for anything - they (are at least intended to) point to
something somewhere.

Style the list-item or link to achieve the same visual appearance.

 I really just started playing with it not sure how seo friendly it is
  or if its even all that proper. I went ahead and put the -moz 
 inline-block hack again.
 
 Also do you know any reason why my javascript tabs set up through 
 jquery aren't showing properly in internet explorer?

I don't know, and javascript is off-topic on this list. Try places
listen on the off-topic page...
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic

One thing though: don't serve old IE6 empty hrefs (a href=) even for
testing. That old bugger isn't well equipped for handling empty hrefs,
and may fail on several points.
Make all those links point somewhere, maybe by using something like...

a href=#nowhere

...until you know where you really want them to go.

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 75, Issue 27

2009-02-27 Thread peter . twiggs

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If you have any urgent queries please contact Steve Lee on 0113 391 2929.

Regards
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Re: [css-d] First element of list hiding for some reason

2009-02-27 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Keith DiSarno kdisa...@gmail.com

Something funny is going on here.  I can't see it either. I swear that I
have never been to your site, nor ever remember ad-blocking or even visiting
a site that had that logo on it. (I can see it if I put the .png location in
the address bar.)

Yet, to my amazement, it is listed in red as a blocked item in AB+.

I have the same phenomenon as Keith, here, and I think you need to try and find 
out why this particular thing is being blocked by AdBlock+. I, too, could not 
see the AdBrite image when I went to your site, regardless of whether you fixed 
it for your own display.

~holly 
 
   
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Re: [css-d] First element of list hiding for some reason

2009-02-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-
 discuss.org] On Behalf Of Holly Bergevin
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:06 PM
 To: css discuss; ewingpatria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [css-d] First element of list hiding for some reason
 
 From: Keith DiSarno kdisa...@gmail.com
 
 Something funny is going on here.  I can't see it either. I swear that I
 have never been to your site, nor ever remember ad-blocking or even
visiting
 a site that had that logo on it. (I can see it if I put the .png location
in
 the address bar.)
 
 Yet, to my amazement, it is listed in red as a blocked item in AB+.
 
 I have the same phenomenon as Keith, here, and I think you need to try and
 find out why this particular thing is being blocked by AdBlock+. I, too,
could
 not see the AdBrite image when I went to your site, regardless of whether
you
 fixed it for your own display.

If I recall, some ad blockers used to filter images based on their
dimensions.
It may be the case here.


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Re: [css-d] First element of list hiding for some reason

2009-02-27 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:

 Something funny is going on here.  I can't see it either. I swear  
 that I
 have never been to your site, nor ever remember ad-blocking or even
 visiting
 a site that had that logo on it. (I can see it if I put the .png  
 location
 in
 the address bar.)

 Yet, to my amazement, it is listed in red as a blocked item in AB+.

 I have the same phenomenon as Keith, here, and I think you need to  
 try and
 find out why this particular thing is being blocked by AdBlock+. I,  
 too,
 could
 not see the AdBrite image when I went to your site, regardless of  
 whether
 you
 fixed it for your own display.

 If I recall, some ad blockers used to filter images based on their
 dimensions.
 It may be the case here.

An image whose file name contains 'adbrite' or is wrapped in a link  
that contains 'adbrite' runs the risk of being blocked.
I'd have to do some cvs-archeology to find out the history of  
'a[href*=adbrite]' in the list in Camino's ad-blocker, but I think  
it pointed to an adserver with the same name. Don't have AdBlock+  
installed if that is the case there.

Philippe
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[css-d] Fixed footer behavior in mobile Safari

2009-02-27 Thread phidlerwerf
Here's a can of worms I'm reluctant to peer into...

I think I've got a new site, professionalvideoprofiles.com , fairly  
well in hand. But I checked it on my iPod Touch's Safari browser, and  
the footer (position:fixed and bottom:0) scrolls up with the page, and  
obscures the text beneath.

CSS: http://professionalvideoprofiles.com/style.css

Do I actually have to RTFM about handheld styles? And if so, where's  
the manual?
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Re: [css-d] Fixed footer behavior in mobile Safari

2009-02-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
phidlerw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think I've got a new site, professionalvideoprofiles.com , fairly 
 well in hand. But I checked it on my iPod Touch's Safari browser, and
 the footer (position:fixed and bottom:0) scrolls up with the page,
 and obscures the text beneath.

Mobile Safari doesn't support position: fixed, for obvious reasons - not
enough screen-area.

The fixed footer obscures content in regular browser-versions too in
small browser-windows, so you should add a reasonable large amount of
padding-bottom to the #wrap container.


In addition, you can fine tune layout for small screens by styling for
them through mediaquery - for example...

@media all and (max-width: 600px) {
/* additional styles for small screens here */
}

More info here:
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/how-to-serve-the-right-content-to-mobile/
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/safe-media-queries/

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