[css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Ruben van den Berg

Dear all,
I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu (red 
background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements and 
[float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the 
whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks a bunch!
Ruben
[URL] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL] 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css

  
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Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Isabel Santos
Hi Ruben,

we can download the css file, but the link
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL] even
taking out the [URL] portion of it
isn't working, so I'm not sure how the markup is layed out, could you fix
the link, or paste the markup to the list?

isabel



On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Ruben van den Berg <
ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dear all,
> I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu
> (red background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements and
> [float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the
> whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
> Thanks a bunch!
> Ruben
> [URL] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL]
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css
>
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Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Ruben van den Berg

Dear Isabel,
Thx for pointing that out. The html link is:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html
or please see below for the html as plain text.
Thanks!
Ruben
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:17:19 +0100
> From: unboun...@gmail.com
> To: ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com
> CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
> Subject: Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements
> 
> Hi Ruben,
> 
> we can download the css file, but the link
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL] even
> taking out the [URL] portion of it
> isn't working, so I'm not sure how the markup is layed out, could you fix
> the link, or paste the markup to the list?
> 
> isabel
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Ruben van den Berg <
> ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Dear all,
> > I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu
> > (red background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements and
> > [float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the
> > whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
> > Thanks a bunch!
> > Ruben
> > [URL] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL]
> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css
> >
> >
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Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Isabel Santos
I'm not sure why is it happening,
but
 div:first-child {height:236px;}
removes the white space

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Ruben van den Berg <
ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dear Isabel,
> Thx for pointing that out. The html link is:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html
> or please see below for the html as plain text.
> Thanks!
> Ruben
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="nl" lang="nl">
>   
> name="keywords" content="trefwoorden, gescheiden, door, komma's" />
> Flamencotype="txt/css" />
> 
>  alt="Afbeelding Flamencodanseres" />
>   Homehref="#">Nieuws Wat is Flamenco?
> FAQWoordenboek
>  Spanjetips Boekingen
>  Contact
> HomeWelkom op flamenco.nlOp
> flamenco.nl kun je uitgebreide informatie vinden over flamenco: de
> temperamentvolle muziek, dans en zang uit Zuid Spanje.  Daarnaast kunnen
> dansworkshops, optredens en lezingen geboekt worden via flamenco.nl; we
> beschikken daartoe over een uitgebreid netwerk van professionele en
> enthousiaste flamencoartiesten en docenten.Voor een overzicht van
> flamenco-websites verwijst flamenco.nl je graag naar de flamenco
> startpaginaVoor een flamenco agenda, bezoek
> www.terremoto.Contact opnemen kan via: i...@flamenco.nl
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:17:19 +0100
> > From: unboun...@gmail.com
> > To: ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com
> > CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
> > Subject: Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements
> >
> > Hi Ruben,
> >
> > we can download the css file, but the link
> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL] even
> > taking out the [URL] portion of it
> > isn't working, so I'm not sure how the markup is layed out, could you fix
> > the link, or paste the markup to the list?
> >
> > isabel
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Ruben van den Berg <
> > ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > > I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu
> > > (red background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements
> and
> > > [float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the
> > > whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing
> wrong?
> > > Thanks a bunch!
> > > Ruben
> > > [URL]
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html[URL]
> > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css
> > >
> > >
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Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 11 juil. 2012 à 20:41, Ruben van den Berg a écrit :

>>> I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu
>>> (red background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements and
>>> [float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the
>>> whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>> Thanks a bunch!
>>> Ruben
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css

Images are inline elements and rest on the baseline of the text. That leaves 
some space for descenders (like p, q, j). The small gap you see under the image 
and above the red block is that space.

#himg {display: block } would remove that space
or
#himg { vertical-align: bottom; }


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Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements

2012-07-11 Thread Ruben van den Berg

Thanks a lot! That was very helpful!
Ruben

> From: e...@l-c-n.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:20:30 +0900
> To: ruben_van_den_b...@hotmail.com
> CC: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
> Subject: Re: [css-d] Remove whitespace between elements
> 
> 
> Le 11 juil. 2012 à 20:41, Ruben van den Berg a écrit :
> 
> >>> I'd like to remove the whitespace between the header image and the menu
> >>> (red background) below it. I specified [margin:0;] for both elements and
> >>> [float:left;] for the menu. But I somehow can't seem to get rid of the
> >>> whitespace between them. Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
> >>> Thanks a bunch!
> >>> Ruben
> >>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.html
> >>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39492899/Flamenconl/flamenco_1.css
> 
> Images are inline elements and rest on the baseline of the text. That leaves 
> some space for descenders (like p, q, j). The small gap you see under the 
> image and above the red block is that space.
> 
> #himg {display: block } would remove that space
> or
> #himg { vertical-align: bottom; }
> 
> 
> Philippe
> --
> Philippe Wittenbergh
> http://l-c-n.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[css-d] Float problem. I think.

2012-07-11 Thread BHomis
I'm doing over a very old website, and I'm having a problem with a floated  
div (content_main) not staying to the upper right.  The problem can be  
found on _http://www.sportsmansresource.com/contact.htm_ 
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/contact.htm) .   No matter what I'm trying, 
it drops below the 
div floated left  (left_content).  It works fine on a possible homepage I 
created (_http://www.sportsmansresource.com/home_page_css.htm_ 
(http://www.sportsmansresource.com/home_page_css.htm) ).
If you can help or offer any help, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks
Bruce
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[css-d] Vendor-prefixed CSS3

2012-07-11 Thread Kyle Sessions
When utilizing CSS3, I know it's generally best to make vendor-prefixed AND
non-vendor-prefixed declarations, i.e., you should declare -moz-transform,
-webkit-transform, -o-transform, and -ms-transform, along with just
transform itself. Is there a suggested best practice for what order these
declarations should be made in? My instinct would be to declare the
non-vendor-prefixed one last, so if/when the browser supports that version
of the declaration, it will overwrite the vendor-prefixed version of
the declaration. Does that sound right? Is there something I'm not thinking
of?

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] Float problem. I think.

2012-07-11 Thread Georg

On 12.07.2012 01:17, bho...@aol.com wrote:

I'm doing over a very old website, and I'm having a problem with a floated
div (content_main) not staying to the upper right.


You are apparently using "overflow: auto;" on  to 
contain floats, which creates a scrollbar that takes up space so the 
right float can't fit alongside the left.

Make that '.section {overflow: hidden;}' and it will line up as intended.

regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Vendor-prefixed CSS3

2012-07-11 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 12 juil. 2012 à 09:05, Kyle Sessions a écrit :

> When utilizing CSS3, I know it's generally best to make vendor-prefixed AND
> non-vendor-prefixed declarations, i.e., you should declare -moz-transform,
> -webkit-transform, -o-transform, and -ms-transform, along with just
> transform itself. Is there a suggested best practice for what order these
> declarations should be made in? My instinct would be to declare the
> non-vendor-prefixed one last, so if/when the browser supports that version
> of the declaration, it will overwrite the vendor-prefixed version of
> the declaration. Does that sound right? Is there something I'm not thinking
> of?

It is not a best practice, it is a requirement to future proof your 
declarations. The non-prefixed declaration _must_ come last. Remember that the 
cascade is at work here. 

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Re: [css-d] Vendor-prefixed CSS3

2012-07-11 Thread Georg

On 12.07.2012 02:05, Kyle Sessions wrote:

My instinct would be to declare  the non-vendor-prefixed one last, so

> if/when the browser supports that version of the declaration, it will
> overwrite the vendor-prefixed version of the declaration. Does that
> sound right?

Yes. Always the non-prefixed version last, for the reason you state.


Is there something I'm not  thinking of?


Only that a browser vendor may choose to mess up the order/priority for 
whatever reason. And if that happens they will soon have to fix their 
own mess anyway, so no need for us to bother about it.


regards
Georg

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Re: [css-d] Vendor-prefixed CSS3

2012-07-11 Thread Kyle Sessions
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Georg  wrote:

> On 12.07.2012 02:05, Kyle Sessions wrote:
>
>> My instinct would be to declare  the non-vendor-prefixed one last, so
>>
> > if/when the browser supports that version of the declaration, it will
> > overwrite the vendor-prefixed version of the declaration. Does that
> > sound right?
>
> Yes. Always the non-prefixed version last, for the reason you state.
>
>
>  Is there something I'm not  thinking of?
>>
>
> Only that a browser vendor may choose to mess up the order/priority for
> whatever reason. And if that happens they will soon have to fix their own
> mess anyway, so no need for us to bother about it.
>
> regards
> Georg


Thanks, Philippe and Georg; that all makes total sense! I saw some
vendor-prefixed declarations after some non-prefixed declarations in a CSS
file I'm working on, and, after a long day, I wasn't entirely sure if that
was right or not. ;)

Best,
Kyle

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Re: [css-d] Float problem. I think.

2012-07-11 Thread BHomis
Greg,
Thanks.  That always bites me.
Thanks again,
Bruce
 
 
In a message dated 7/11/2012 8:40:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gunla...@c2i.net writes:

On  12.07.2012 01:17, bho...@aol.com wrote:
> I'm doing over a very old  website, and I'm having a problem with a 
floated
> div (content_main)  not staying to the upper right.

You are apparently using "overflow:  auto;" on  to 
contain floats, which creates a  scrollbar that takes up space so the 
right float can't fit alongside the  left.
Make that '.section {overflow: hidden;}' and it will line up as  intended.

regards
Georg
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