Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design
Den 15.02.2015 16:41, skrev Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh: As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering how much longer media queries can be useful. Phones will soon have the same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by physical comparison. Increasing resolution does in itself not create any real problems. We all want sharper and more detailed images, regardless of their size, and as viewing-distance vary with screen/window size we can pretty much deliver what the end-users want/need by targeting both their actual resolution and screen/window size. Media Queries don't have to play but a small role here, for which they in my opinion are quite adequate in their present form. Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, heading for a high speed crash? Or do I misunderstand how this works? Media Queries are incomplete for optimal control, but when applied well - for instance by not locking everything down to the same units - it isn't all that hard to keep it all together and deliver our designs across the resolution/size landscape - now and well into the future. If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the ultimate solution? There will always arrive new solutions. Some may be seen as improvements, and may actually work well in a number of cases. As long as CSS gets improved upon to solve real-world cases, CSS will be used by most as the base for delivering designs. I do not see any ultimate solutions - with or without CSS - in the near future that will cover all cases to perfection, and so far I haven't found the need for one either... :-) regards Georg __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design
I disagree. In my own area of development things are only getting more complicated. Will MQs evolve and become more complex? Yes. May other means of accomplishing the same thing come to pass? Wouldn't surprise me. Will pages be nothing but single-columns of text broken occasionally by an svg image? Hardly. On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh composed on 2015-02-15 14:41 (UTC-0700): As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering how much longer media queries can be useful. Phones will soon have the same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by physical comparison. Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, Yes. heading for a high speed . crash? Yes Or do I misunderstand how this works? Media queries are a band-aid solution to an artificial and needless problem. If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the ultimate solution? Most of the technology has long been in place, in the form of relative units. Their primary shortcoming is WRT background images. There is usually no compulsion to use background images, making that shortcoming rather inconsequential. IOW, divorce your mind from the existence of px units for all screen media use other than bitmap images, and you get automatic adaptation to display density, rather like life before CSS1 arrived. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design
As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering how much longer media queries can be useful. Phones will soon have the same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by physical comparison. Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, heading for a high speed crash? Or do I misunderstand how this works? If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the ultimate solution? -- /* Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh --oO0 */ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design
Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh composed on 2015-02-15 14:41 (UTC-0700): As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering how much longer media queries can be useful. Phones will soon have the same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by physical comparison. Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, Yes. heading for a high speed . crash? Yes Or do I misunderstand how this works? Media queries are a band-aid solution to an artificial and needless problem. If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the ultimate solution? Most of the technology has long been in place, in the form of relative units. Their primary shortcoming is WRT background images. There is usually no compulsion to use background images, making that shortcoming rather inconsequential. IOW, divorce your mind from the existence of px units for all screen media use other than bitmap images, and you get automatic adaptation to display density, rather like life before CSS1 arrived. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Two Phones one problem
I've run into an odd problem with a MQ between two different phones that have the same width when in landscape mode which is 480px. Those two phones are iPhone 4 and my Lumia 1520, the page I'm working on looks, for the most part, fine, when viewed on a iPhone 5, when I preview on my Lumia, the page breaks and I don't understand why ? Christopher __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/