Re: [css-d] Menu items expanding with browser window

2010-08-31 Thread Ann Randall
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Ellen Heitman 
 wrote:

> Please take a look at the following test page:
>
> http://www.pottersignal.com/sales_test.aspx
>
> Notice that if you expand or contract the page the horizontal menu at the
> top of the page expands and contracts with it. How can I fix this?
>
> Also, please ignore the tabulated structure of the website overall. This is
> an inherited project and I am working on transitioning to a semantic
> layout,
> but that will take quite some time. Is there anyway to fix this issue now?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Here is the HTML for the menu:
>
> 
>  [snip]
> 
>
> Here is the CSS:
>
> [snip]
> #menu {
>  position: absolute;
>  top: 55px;
>  right: 150px;
> }
> [snip]


I don't have a solution atm, but I think the problem lies in the code I've
isolated above. The #menu has an absolute position of 150px from the right.
So it isn't really expanding or contracting; it's just staying 150px from
the right margin side of the browser. Right?

AnnR
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Re: [css-d] Deprecations in recent versions of HTML cause C SS problems‏

2010-02-11 Thread Ann Randall
>
> --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Ann Randall  wrote:
> >
> > <> I do have a
> > question about the best way to style for APA 6, which took a
> > giant step backward to require 2 spaces after the ends of
> > sentences. It seems to me that, assuming the rule is not
> > disregarded, there would be a CSS way to add an extra space
> > at the end of most sentences-- at least those ending with
> > periods. I'm trying to wrap my head around just how that
> > could be done, though. Any ideas?
> >
> > Ann Randall
>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Bobby Jack  wrote:

> Hi Ann,
>
> <> I agree with you - requiring 2 steps at the end of sentences is
> insane! HTML doesn't provide for a 'nice' way of doing this: in the simple
> case, all whitespace is equivalent to a single space, so that text can be
> laid out very flexibly in the source document. Having said that, there are a
> couple of ways of forcing a double-space:
>
> 1. '  ' will result in two spaces, the second being a 'non-breaking space'.
> Of course, it's a pain putting those in manually, but not much more than
> having to hit the spacebar twice at the end of each sentence.
>
> 2. The CSS delcation 'white-space: pre' will preserve all white space,
> allowing you to just double space at the end of each sentence, but you need
> to be aware that ALL whitespace (including tabs and newlines) will be
> preserved.
>
> As far as I know, there's no way for CSS to target 'sentences'. CSS works
> at the level of the document structure, rather than at the lower level of
> text and specific characters. The 'wobbly' definition of 'a sentence' may
> well cause problems, particuarly across language boundaries.
>
> I couldn't actually find a reference to APA that mentioned this double
> space requirement - do you have a pointer?
>
> Regards,
>
> - Bobby
>

First, before someone else points it out, I profusely apologize for
top-posting. I've rearranged the posts to try to right my wrong. I think the
CSS 'white-space: pre' might work for me, since I usually do grep search and
replace to get rid of things like extra white spaces and tabs. Thanks for
the idea.

And yes, you can read about the APA's return to two spaces at the end of
sentences at http://www.apastyle.org/manual/whats-new.aspx
Scroll down just below the "Chapter 4" subheading.
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Re: [css-d] create expandable banner

2008-01-03 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 1/2/2008 at 4:20 PM, "Rebecca Richter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi David,

Here's my site so far, with expandable banner and footer images. I
still don't know what this looks like on different-sized monitors. I
made the bg image in Photoshop with a width of 2000 px. Is this how it
works?

Thanks :)

Becca

Becca, what you want, I think, for your background is a thin slice that
repeats across (x direction) the page. Here's a prototype I'm working on
that does that: http://izann.com/studentservices/
The stylesheet for the page is at:
http://izann.com/studentservices/styles/main.css
 
The style directions for the background start on about line 194. The
important part is:
 
  background-image: url(/studentservices/images/bannerbg.png);
  background-repeat: repeat-x;

My background image is only 54 pixels wide (it could be a lot
narrower).
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Re: [css-d] How will firefox 3 affect web developers?

2007-12-03 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 12/2/2007 at 3:48 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Therefore, right now at least, IE truly is the only *major* browser. 
Even FF
is simply a more serious contender.  Notice a wrote *more* serious
contender.  Not
even a serious contender, yet.  It's simply enough in use that I decide
to
devote time to making content look good on it.  What makes a browser
*major*
is simply how much usage it has.  Not how much it does or does not
comply with
standards.
 
== snip ==
 
As far as standards go, the most important standards are decided by the
using public,
not by the W3C.

Some developers are idealists who want to live in the world *they*
develop as far
as what browsers deserve attention and development time.  The rest of
us live in
the real world.

I challenge any developer to develop an app for general consumption
that works
perfectly in FF and looks terrible in IE and see how much money that
make from it.

Rick

You have good points, Rick, from a very pragmatic view. However, it is
essential to webmasters interested in a user-friendly site that their
sites look good in any browsers being used by 10% or more of their
clientele. I'm afraid that the history of Microsoft is one of making
applications that integrate well only with other Microsoft applications.
W3C has helped to prevent a monopoly caused by this type of marketing
practice. I feel duty-bound to pay attention to an organization whose
standards have allowed the development of more sophisticated and
user-friendly browsers such as Firefox.
 
As far as browser market share is concerned, webmasters need to take it
into account primarily as it applies to the sites they design and
manage. Though Mozilla market share may be as low as 15% in some venues,
for instance, on my university site Mozilla browser use is nearly 25%.
And while Safari use is less than 3%, that is equal to 89 visits at my
site, so I'm not going to ignore that either. There were only 17 visits
from Opera users, so I don't worry about that too much. However, if
sites look good in both IE and Mozilla, they usually look fine in Opera
as well.
 
One more consideration. As you say, FF is not even a serious contender
*yet*. You are wise to recognize that its market share is growing every
year. I am sure that one reason webmasters consider FF in building their
sites is strategic. They don't want to have to redesign their sites
later as the Firefox market share trend takes more and more of the
browser market share.
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Re: [css-d] How to centre text in a div

2007-12-03 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 12/2/2007 at 4:28 PM, "Clare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello!

I have a general question about vertically aligning text within a div,
I
would just like to check which is the correct way to get this to
happen.
When I have a div say for example 50px high and I have a line of text
within
the div, I normally either use padding to get the text to appear
roughly
central or I set the line height to 50px. Is there an easier or more
correct
way to accomplish this?

Regards,

Clare Green.

While CSS does not have a property for aligning horizontally, it does
have a property for aligning vertically. Check "vertical-align" in the
W3C property table at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/propidx.html 
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Re: [css-d] Holy Grail Alternatives

2007-11-29 Thread Ann Randall
See below... Ann
>>> On 11/29/2007 at 10:29 AM, Ernie Finlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
IE 6...
Header overlaps the content/left sidebar.
 
Right sidebar is at the top of  the Header section.

Ernie :))

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:47:39 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
> Subject: Re: [css-d] Holy Grail Alternatives
> 
> >>> On 11/29/2007 at 8:40 AM, "Ann Randall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>> On 11/28/2007 at 4:32 PM, "Ann Randall"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> All right, I've redone my site prototype using an alternative to the
> ALA "Holy Grail." I think this is kind of an amalgamation of these 
> two:
> http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ 
> http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html 
> ...plus a couple variations. I'm away from the office and don't have
> any Windows machines at hand at the moment, and since IE was 
> where my original site broke, I was wondering if someone could 
> check this on IE6 and maybe IE7 on Windows. I haven't verified 
> the coding yet but am going to do that right now. Thanks!
> Ann
> 
> 
> Well, I checked it myself this morning, and it looks awful in IE 7.
I
> think the problem is with declaring any positional variables. In
this
> case, I positioned the banner. If I come up with a solution I will 
> share it, as I'm guessing others may wish to position the top as 
> well. Meanwhile, any suggestions?
> 
> Ann
> 
> Ann Randall, Faculty Support and Projects Coordinator
> Distance Education, Extended Studies
> 1910 University Drive-MS 1120
> Boise ID 83725-1120
> 
> 
> Geez, just realized I forgot to include my site links:
> http://izann.com/studentservices/elearn/ 
> http://izann.com/studentservices/ 
> http://izann.com/studentservices/styles/main.css 
> --
> Ann

Thanks, Ernie. I think it is Okay now. This fix seems too easy, 
but it seems to work. I changed margin-top: 40px in the container div 
that goes below the banner into padding-top: 40px.
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Re: [css-d] Holy Grail Alternatives

2007-11-29 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 11/29/2007 at 8:40 AM, "Ann Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>> On 11/28/2007 at 4:32 PM, "Ann Randall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
All right, I've redone my site prototype using an alternative to the
ALA "Holy Grail." I think this is kind of an amalgamation of these 
two:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ 
http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html 
...plus a couple variations. I'm away from the office and don't have
any Windows machines at hand at the moment, and since IE was 
where my original site broke, I was wondering if someone could 
check this on IE6 and maybe IE7 on Windows. I haven't verified 
the coding yet but am going to do that right now. Thanks!
Ann


Well, I checked it myself this morning, and it looks awful in IE 7. I
think the problem is with declaring any positional variables. In this
case, I positioned the banner. If I come up with a solution I will 
share it, as I'm guessing others may wish to position the top as 
well. Meanwhile, any suggestions?

Ann

Ann Randall, Faculty Support and Projects Coordinator
Distance Education, Extended Studies
1910 University Drive-MS 1120
Boise ID 83725-1120


Geez, just realized I forgot to include my site links:
http://izann.com/studentservices/elearn/ 
http://izann.com/studentservices/ 
http://izann.com/studentservices/styles/main.css 
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Re: [css-d] Holy Grail Alternatives

2007-11-29 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 11/28/2007 at 4:32 PM, "Ann Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
All right, I've redone my site prototype using an alternative to the
ALA
"Holy Grail." I think this is kind of an amalgamation of these two:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ 
http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html 
...plus a couple variations. I'm away from the office and don't have
any
Windows machines at hand at the moment, and since IE was where my
original site broke, I was wondering if someone could check this on
IE6
and maybe IE7 on Windows. I haven't verified the coding yet but am
going
to do that right now. Thanks! Ann


Well, I checked it myself this morning, and it looks awful in IE 7. I
think the problem is with declaring any positional variables. In this
case, I positioned the banner. If I come up with a solution I will share
it, as I'm guessing others may wish to position the top as well.
Meanwhile, any suggestions?
 
Ann
 
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Boise ID 83725-1120
 
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[css-d] Holy Grail Alternatives

2007-11-28 Thread Ann Randall
All right, I've redone my site prototype using an alternative to the ALA
"Holy Grail." I think this is kind of an amalgamation of these two:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/
http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala13.html
...plus a couple variations. I'm away from the office and don't have any
Windows machines at hand at the moment, and since IE was where my
original site broke, I was wondering if someone could check this on IE6
and maybe IE7 on Windows. I haven't verified the coding yet but am going
to do that right now. Thanks! Ann

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Re: [css-d] IE7 zoom breaking the Holy Grail layout

2007-11-26 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 11/26/2007 at 12:45 PM, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Ingo Chao wrote:
> David Laakso wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I notice that the Holy Grail layout on A List Apart 
>>> (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail) breaks in IE7 when
the 
>>> zoom feature is used. The columns appear to shift horizontally as
the 
>>> zoom is increased or decreased. This is a popular layout, has
anyone 
>>> figured out a way to keep it from breaking whilst zoomed?
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>> That's nothing. That horror show (personal opinion) drops the left 
>> float at zoom-level 100% text-size "largest in IE7, too.
>>...
> 
> #container {zoom:1; overflow-x:hidden) helps a little, but won't fix

> other issues, like
> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/hgjump.html 

This will let the left column appear on the screen here, but doesn't 
prevent the shifting. Further wrappers are needed to make it more 
stable, or choose another layout.
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions/alalevine.html 
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/companions.html 

Ingo

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Oh, gosh, that's a disaster. Any good alternatives to ALA's Holy Grail?
I completed a prototype in that format at
http://izann.com/studentservices/ and can't even see the left-side
navigation links in IE7. Ann
 

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Re: [css-d] Best option for simple contact form?

2007-10-15 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 10/15/2007 at 11:00 AM, David Hucklesby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Hi Ann,
| 
| You asked:
| 
|> How about this feedback form?
|> http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml 
|>
| 
|  From the sample page, it looks very "old school" - tables and font
| tags.  :(
Yeah, I did my own formatting.

| The other forms mentioned use a technique to defeat spam that
| has a "dummy" field that lead spam bots to fill it in, but humans
| will not. This has proven pretty effective at reducing spam. The
| form you refer to does not have this feature.
Ah, good point. Thanks for pointing this out! This would reduce or
eliminate spam to the site administrator, wouldn't it. Don't know why I
didn't consider that sooner. Thanks.
 
| On other thing you need to guard against - so-called "injection
| attacks." This is quite hard to guard against, but is taken care
| of in Wufoo and in Mike Cherim's solution. I did not look at the
| code in the site you referenced, so cannot advise you on that.
This, actually, was what led me to the sitewizard feedback form. It is
specifically set up to defeat injection attacks, which I was having at
the time.
 
| Cordially,
| David
| --
Thanks for the comments.
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Re: [css-d] Best option for simple contact form?

2007-10-15 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 10/14/2007 at 3:59 PM, David Hucklesby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Hi Jenn and Alison,
| 
|> On 12-Oct-07, at 11:42 PM, Allison Kelly wrote:
|>
|>> I need to build a very simple email form for a contact page.
|>>
| 
| On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:38:21 +0530, Rahul Gonsalves replied:
|>
|> I have had good results with this form. It seems well thought out.
|> http://green-beast.com/blog/?page_id=71 
| 
| After building my own PHP-driven form that got spammed within a
week,
| I came across the form script that Rahul refers to. I agree with
| his recommendation.
| --
| 
|> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:42:15 -0700, Jenn Mears wrote:
|> Hi David,
|> I have been looking into web form handling companies for a client
that uses 
| a hosting
|> company which doesn't offer cgi-bins(who knew?)  I came across a
company 
| called Web
|> Form Buddy and they offered a pretty good range of services for $40
per 
| year.  They
|> seemed like the best company I could find after quite a search, but
I 
| couldn't find any
|> online reviews about them.  Have you heard anything about them?
|> http://www.web-form-buddy.com/ 
|>
| 
| Sorry, no. I am fortunate in that someone I helped "paid" me by
| giving me free hosting. :) So I have little experience in that
regard.
| 
| Cordially,
| David
| --
How about this feedback form?
http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml 

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Re: [css-d] Weird IE6 Navigation Issue

2007-10-12 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 10/11/2007 at 9:33 AM, Jeph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Any CSS people out there have time to look at a problem I'm having?
| 
| http://omnidev2.com/MOAA/1.html 
| 
| The navigation on this page works well in IE6 except for the last
menu 
| item. No dropdown appears but the hover image does. We've been
looking 
| at it for days we're stumped - it makes no sense.  Is anyone out
there 
| not stumped and know why this is happening?
| 
| We're using Son of Suckerfish and all of the sfhover classes are 
| accounted for, we're just not sure why it stops working for the last
item.
| 
| Thanks,
| Jeph

Hi, Jeph. I just have to post a reply to this because I had a very
similar problem with a dropdown menu, and it only appeared in IE6. It
isn't just Son of Suckerfish that's doing it either, because I used the
hover.htc method. Mine is a float right setup, so the menu item floats
in backwards, and the last list item that disappears is the bottom one
in the left-hand menu "Get Started" menu item. See:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/getstarted.shtml 

I was about to give up and stick with JavaScript when our Tech
Assistant suggested I add a blank list item at the end, so that's what I
did, then added some code to obscure it. My stylesheet is at:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/styles/main.css 

I also had a problem with the menu items moving during hover, creating
a space between list items, so you will see som IE6-specific code for
that as well.

AnnR

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Re: [css-d] The valid drop down menus

2007-10-10 Thread Ann Randall
>>> David Hucklesby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/9/2007 7:24 PM >>>
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:11:55 -0600, Ann Randall wrote to Anne
Pennington:
>>>
>>> I have been seeking the perfect drop down menus for ages but I was
away and missed
>>> this thread:
>>>
[...]
>> Hi, Annie. Did you click over to the new page?
>> http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/final_drop.html 
>>
>> There is a link there to a text version of the xhtml code:
>> http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/css/final_drop.txt 
>>
>
>Hmm. Personally, I would not call that "perfect". It's pretty well
>unusable from the keyboard in all my Windows browsers.
>
>Sorry.
>
>Cordially,
>David
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That's a disappointment. I hadn't looked at the code or tried it out
yet. I've been using the csshover.htc method successfully for a couple
of years now. I was hoping this would provide a usable alternative.
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Re: [css-d] The valid drop down menus

2007-10-09 Thread Ann Randall
>>> Anne Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/9/2007 4:42 AM >>>
>I have been seeking the perfect drop down menus for ages but I was  
>away and missed this thread:
>
. . . . . snip . . . .
>
>As for this bit:
>
>> He has a different workaround for the Multi-level Drop Down Menu  
>> than the
>> (csshover.htc) hack. Visit his page then go to 'Menu' in the top
nav.
>
>I can't find it!
>
>I will put credit to Steve when I have finished - I have already left 

>his comments in the style sheet. Much appreciate feedback on these  
>questions and I am on the digest so please copy me in to any answer. 

>Much appreciate this. Thank you.
>
>Annie

Hi, Annie. Did you click over to the new page?
http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/final_drop.html 

There is a link there to a text version of the xhtml code:
http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/css/final_drop.txt


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Re: [css-d] Pure CSS Pop-Up Menu & IE 6 png Transparency Problem

2007-10-05 Thread Ann Randall
>>> David Terrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/4/2007 2:48 PM >>>
. . . . .
I'm trying to create a pure css pop-up menu as per
http://moronicbajebus.com/wordpress/wp-content/cssplay/pop-up-menus/ 
and it just isn't working out.  The sub-list elements 
are now hidden, but I can't seem to make them 
appear on the mouseover. I am also have problems 
with IE 6 showing a tranparent png correctly.  
Firefox and Safari are both showing the 
transparency correctly.  The site is
located at www.cometothewell.org/newsite.  
The css is located at 
http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/styles.css.
 . . . . .

Thank You,
David Terrell
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David, This is an alternate. It's my favorite css popout menu. There
are two versions - one vertical, one horizontal.
http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/horizontal/ 
http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/vertical/ 

And here are some implementations I've designed based on those
templates:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/ 
stylesheet: http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/styles/main.css 

http://ppa.boisestate.edu/ 
stylesheet: http://ppa.boisestate.edu/common/ppa.css 

http://izann.com/studentservices/ (this is a prototype at the moment)
stylesheet: http://izann.com/studentservices/styles/main.css 

http://linkingdots.com/ 
stylesheet: http://www.linkingdots.com/include/style.css 

Nice effect, popping up instead of down for a change, by the way. I'm
assuming the text on the pix is temporary, since there are a couple of
typos. Cheers!
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Re: [css-d] best menu for safari

2007-10-04 Thread Ann Randall
>>> "Don Stefani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/3/2007 11:35 AM >>>
>Hello,
>I am going to have need for a pop out menu for an intranet that runs
safari
>3 as their house browser.
>
>I looked in the Wiki but didn't see anything mentioned.
>
>Any favorite CSS based ones,.. that don't break in Safari?

Yes. These two (one vertical, one horizontal):
http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/horizontal/
http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/vertical/

Here are some implementations I've designed based on those templates:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/
stylesheet: http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/styles/main.css 

http://ppa.boisestate.edu/
stylesheet: http://ppa.boisestate.edu/common/ppa.css 

http://izann.com/studentservices/ (this is a prototype at the moment)
stylesheet: http://izann.com/studentservices/styles/main.css 

http://linkingdots.com/
stylesheet: http://www.linkingdots.com/include/style.css 

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Re: [css-d] will u help me any CSS issue?

2007-09-18 Thread Ann Randall
>>> On 9/17/2007 at 7:48 PM, "Nay Myo Win" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> will u help me any CSS issue?
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Re: [css-d] IE fails to put border on one link...

2007-07-06 Thread Ann Randall


>>> "Richard Grevers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/5/2007 10:12 PM
>>>
On http://www.paen.net/en/live-interpreting.mv, links are styled with
a dashed bottom border.
<= = = snip = = =>

Notes on validity: The page has four validation errors. Three of them
are because the email munging javascripts are not contained in  blocks.

<= = = snip = = =>
One of your validation errors may be because your email javascript
lacks a backslash in the . Try <\/a> and see if that helps.
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Re: [css-d] images won't align in IE

2007-07-05 Thread Ann Randall
>>> Christopher Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/5/2007 12:57 PM >>>
Here is an image of what it looks like in IE:
http://www.3pointdesign.com/stuff/itis.jpg 
Here is an image of what it should be looking like (safari!!)
http://www.3pointdesign.com/stuff/shouldbe.jpeg 

I don't mind the white (intended border whilst creating the images),  
I don't even mind if they have uneven gaps - what i want is for them  
to sit on the same row  - like they do in the 2nd link.

If anyone is prepared to help:
http://www.3pointdesign.com/websites2.html 

http://www.3pointdesign.com/styles/mystyle.css 

This must be really easy and simple but I am confused. My posts don't 

seem to get answered and I can't play with css/code because I can't  
test in IE! Do I need a hack? Ihave never written one? Do I give up  
(not in my nature) do I learn a whole new way of css cos of IE - I  
seriously hope not! Please just help no matter how stupid it may seem 

- I am screwed and this problem has already cost me 2 days.

Thanks Chris

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Chris, I note the display is as you want it to be in IE 7. I'm
assuming, therefore, that your problem is in IE 6 or earlier?
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[css-d] Hover.htc dropdown-flyout menu invisible link in IE6

2007-07-05 Thread Ann Randall
Hi, I'm new to this list. I have a problem I haven't found by searching
the list archives. If someone knows of an answer there, please let me
know. I have a dropdown/flyout horizontal menu in which the very last
link doesn't show up in IE6. It's OK in every other browser I've
checked. In this case, since the menu floats right, the missing link is
the bottom link of the first menu item on the left, which says "FAQ."
Actually, it is there, but the color that makes the font visible is
missing. This is the fifth time I've used Peterned's hover.htc for a
dropdown or flyout, and this is the first time I just can't get
something to work. HTML and CSS validate. Here's a link to one of the
pages that uses the menu:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/contact-us.shtml 

Here's a link to my stylesheet:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/styles/main.css 

And if anyone's curious, here's a link to a page with the JavaScript
menu I am trying to mimic:
http://www.boisestate.edu/distance/forstudents_declasses.htm 

Oh, I should add... I gave up and used one small table in the layout in
order to get the menu to line up properly.
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