Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

2015-12-29 Thread COM
Eric, List;

I think that to discontinue the list would be a tragic loss. I respect and 
value the list’s purity/adherence to mission (CSS-only) and the speed/response 
time that others have cited. 

It might be nice to expand the scope of what this list covers, but it’s a 
slippery slope…if you include HTML, why not include javascript, too?  All three 
(and more) technologies work with each other, so where would the limits be?

On the other hand, CSS and HTML are like salt and pepper, bert and ernie, bread 
and butter. They seem to be the keys to each other’s locks, or perhaps together 
they form a whole technology, and within that perspective, I can see a list 
embracing both technologies as a focus.

Either way, please continue the list. Thank you for what you have done so 
far..I know that these things don’t put themselves together!

John
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Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS

2013-11-13 Thread COM

On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Philip Taylor  wrote:
>>> http://pattle.github.io/simpsons-in-css/  is 404?
> 
> Update: Pattle has temporarily removed his project from Github while he
> seeks legal permission to reproduce the Simpsons characters
> 
> Translation : the suits and bean-counters have threatened litigation for
> infringement of copyright.

makes perfect sense…you don't replicate one of the hottest properties on earth 
without inviting a little C&D action…

thanks for the alternate link.

J
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Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS

2013-11-13 Thread COM
..it also just dawned on me that illustration converted to code can be 
dynamically changed…

some dizzying implications to that, eh?

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Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS

2013-11-13 Thread COM

On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Tim Arnold  wrote:

> It's possible that graphics apps will eventually have an option to
> export something like this, but I lean toward "probably not."  More
> likely (particularly since it's already happening with Adobe) is that
> illustrations will export to .  Illustrator can already export
> to SVG which will probably fill in where  does not.

Sketch for OS X, a vector draw app, does some level of this, tho the actual 
success of the exported code could use some work, but I've gotten it to spit 
out lean code for a box with border radius and both inside and outside shadows, 
and IIRC, web kit moz kit, etc.

I can get on board with a draw app that converts my creative work into useable 
CSS. I can't get on board with drawing by sticking my hands into a set of 
rubber gloves attached to tongs attached to tweezers way at the other end.

..which is how I personally view "drawing with CSS" as being..the thought of 
tapping out the code for bart's noggin…where's the Maaloxx??


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Re: [css-d] The Simpsons in CSS

2013-11-12 Thread COM
This is cool and all, but…seriously, is CSS being touted as an illustration 
tool?
Am I missing a concept here?

I am very impressed by the samples shown…

John
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[css-d] iOS simulator vs FireFox?

2013-09-03 Thread COM
At the link below, you can see how the same page shows differently in the 
iPhone simulator compared to Firefox' responsive design view..

Shouldn't they be the same? Note FF set to display 480 px wide. Any thoughts to 
what is going on to cause the discrepancy?

Thank you!

John

http://coffeeonmars.com/screenshots/discrep.jpg
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[css-d] what should go in html{ } ?

2013-06-26 Thread COM
my css all begin like what's pasted below. I have no idea what things ought to 
be inside the html selector. Any thoughts on what the best practices are?

Thank you!

John



*{
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
html{
}
body{
font-size:16px;
color:rgb(0,0,0);
font-family:helvetica-neue, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
}

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[css-d] can last child be spec'd?

2013-06-20 Thread COM
Let's say you have N-number of paragraphs in an article, and you want the last 
paragraph to have some different attributes as the other , such as a greater 
margin-bottom.

Is there a way to describe that in css?

Thank you!

John
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Re: [css-d] background image AND background color?

2013-06-19 Thread COM

On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:43 AM, David Laakso  wrote:

> The red-like color is opaque: no texture whatsoever seen in Windows 7
> any browser.

well that blows a hole right through that technique..thank you for telling me 
that, David.


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Re: [css-d] background image AND background color?

2013-06-19 Thread COM

On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:35 AM, "Tom Livingston"  wrote:

> You won't get PhotoShop "multiply" layer effects exactly, but using a 24bit 
> png for your image with areas of alpha transparency to allow the bg color to 
> come through is as close as u can get I believe.


confirmed…here's what worked for me, aside from David and Karl's correction of 
my code:

To make my png partially opaque in my image editor (Pixelmator)…I set it to 50% 
just for grins and NOW the influence of that red is taking effect on the PNG 
texture occupying the same element.

link:http://coffeeonmars.com/test/flextest/flextest.html

weird…my connection shows the red load first and then s-l-o-w-l-y replace by 
the texture..

Thank you for the code corrections and ideas about png/opacity

Spoze the CSS consortium is considering giving us some photoshop-like layers? 
Compared to the many other effects CSS is now handling, it doesn't seem 
far-fetched..

John
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Re: [css-d] background image AND background color?

2013-06-19 Thread COM

On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Karl DeSaulniers  wrote:

> Tested on safari 6.0.5...
> 
> background-color: rgba(240,0,0,0.4);
> 
> althought it looks like rgba(240,0,0,0.2) might be better suited. :)
> 

weird…no change for me at all, tho when I refresh, I do see the reduced-opacity 
red flash for just a second, right before the .jpg loads…..


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Re: [css-d] background image AND background color?

2013-06-19 Thread COM

On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:37 AM, David Laakso  wrote:

> 
> For those among us who dwell in the visual world, one picture is worth
> a thousand words... a click able link to your coded page would help.

A link to the page in question is here:   
http://coffeeonmars.com/test/flextest/flextest.html

the part I'm talking about is at top, where it says "heading one" and "heading 
two"; behind them in the  is a jpg of what looks like some light 
texture. in the css is also a background color for that element: a red at 0.4 
alpha.

my goal is to have the texture image's color influenced by that background 
color, IOW, by varying the opacity of the color, the image would have more or 
less of a reddish cast to it.

Thank you!

John
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[css-d] background image AND background color?

2013-06-18 Thread COM
Fiddling with trying to combine a background image with background color 
applied to the same element and hoping to vary either one or both opacity.

Is this possible to do…I guess what I'm looking for is to do with CSS, images 
and color what you can do with Photoshop layers.

Thank you!

John
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Re: [css-d] responsive design

2013-06-17 Thread COM

On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Olivia A  wrote:
> But for the web page layout by default, (with no media query applied) ,
> when i resize down the pages "a propos.php" and "enregistrement.php"; the
> two containers (below the long picture ) which are floated elements don't
> float as it should, but instead there is one container falling down
> underneath the other one.This only occur when i resize down the browser.
> 
> 
> 2/when I don't resize the pages , the two containers float but the sum of
> their width is not equal to the pic above them which is a 100% width. So
> there is a gap .
> 
> Please could you help me sort this out:
> 
> 
> http://urbanstyle.bugs3.com/about.php
> http://urbanstyle.bugs3.com/enregistrement.php

If I am understanding you, to me, your page changes as it ought to for 
mobile…my understanding is that floats *should* go away or be "none"…and that 
we should think of mobile devices as essentially single-column-layout platforms.

I do see some inconsistency with the space above "Lorem" (purple head) and the 
box below, but you could fix that quickly in your MQ.

Also, I  might put the menu to the top. And something going on with your 
Desktop menu such that "a propos" breaks. Is this your intention?

Overall, I like the way your layout flexes down, and ultimately slips into 
single column.

HTH,

John
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Re: [css-d] css-based flyout menu for mobile?

2013-06-15 Thread COM
On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:32 AM, David Hucklesby  wrote:

> On 6/14/13 4:20 PM, COM wrote:
>> Can anyone point me to a 100% css-based flyout menu for use with mobile
>> devices? By flyout, I mean that when User presses a Menu icon, the menu
>> slides out or otherwise appears, User presses their choice and menu hides,
>> chosen page loads.
>> 
> 
> Brad Frost has some useful resources for many responsive design patterns that
> you may find useful. Check out "The Toggle" and "The Left Nav Flyout" in his
> Responsive Navigation Patterns for example -
> 
> <http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/web/responsive-nav-patterns/>
> 

as per usual, IE is the fly in the meta-ointment…these tutes look pretty good!

John

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[css-d] css-based flyout menu for mobile?

2013-06-14 Thread COM
Can anyone point me to a 100% css-based flyout menu for use with mobile 
devices? By flyout, I mean that when User presses a Menu icon, the menu slides 
out or otherwise appears, User presses their choice and menu hides, chosen page 
loads.

Thank you!

John
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Re: [css-d] why does shadow disappear?

2013-06-08 Thread COM
I believe I found the problem: failure to close a div tag…

this is by far and away my #1 coding problem.

sorry,

John
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[css-d] why does shadow disappear?

2013-06-08 Thread COM
I hope this is considered a CSS problem…

at this link:  http://jsfiddle.net/6Wg8g/

I have a menu icon whose addition makes other things disappear: not a wanted 
outcome.

is the fault in my #menu declarations? I just don't get why that addition makes 
other things vanish. Any clues would be appreciated.

John
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Re: [css-d] limitations to sprites?

2013-06-05 Thread COM

On Jun 4, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh  wrote:

> So yeah, eventually good for small icons and the like, that are used 
> repeatedly all over the site. As for the size, bear in mind the above about 
> browser memory usage, and then your ability to keep track of them. All 
> depends on your target audience, targeted devices, etc.

Thank you, Philippe…

am I correct that any app that can show a given icon's x-y coordinates in 
pixels is suitable for creating/exporting the final sprites sheet? All one must 
do is jot down the coordinates for the given sprite and have them handy when 
writing the css?

I find myself using an OS X draw app called Sketch more and more these days..it 
seems nicely focused toward web graphics workflow, but so far, I don't notice 
that it exports a sheet of coordinates; just the graphic. Guess I'll have to do 
the coordinates old-school..

John
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[css-d] limitations to sprites?

2013-06-04 Thread COM
If the benefit to using sprites is to whack http request/times, is there a 
limit to how big the sprites documents are?

these are best used for small graphics and not the sites' main images, correct?

if used for small icons, etc, perhaps the limit in size is in sheer numbers of 
little icons and keeping track of them?

thanks for any info about this.

John
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Re: [css-d] RES: RES: child margin affecting parent?

2013-05-12 Thread COM

On May 12, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Alan Gresley  wrote:

> No, you simply have collapsing margins. Just change the value of the top 
> margin to zero. Like so.
> 
> header{
>   margin:0 0 1em 0;
>   border:red 1px solid;
> }

Thank you. Couple questions…I did have a border on the header..isnt that 
supposed to prevent the collapsing margins scenario?

Also,  need to have a top margin value for the header so that I can position it 
vertically where I need it to, so am I forced to use padding for this?

thank you..off to read the link you provided

J
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Re: [css-d] RES: RES: child margin affecting parent?

2013-05-12 Thread COM
sorry for seeming dumb but why would adding padding prove its collapsing margin?

wrapper contains header in this case, plus, I have other child objects whose 
top margin value will not do this.

is there some special property to the  tag? I realize that's HTML…





On May 12, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Mauricio Silva"  wrote:

> Set top padding: 1px 20px; for #wrapper and margin uncollapse proofing that
> this is a collapsing margin issue.
> 
> Maurício Samy Silva
> http://maujor.com
> http://facebook.com/maujor
> @maujor
> 
> 
> -Mensagem original-
> De: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
> [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] Em nome de COM
> Enviada em: domingo, 12 de maio de 2013 18:27
> Para: CSS-Discuss
> Assunto: Re: [css-d] RES: child margin affecting parent?
> 
> I am not sure that this is collapsing margins..perhaps I don't get "margin
> collapse" but I thought it meant if 2 block level items touching vertically,
> the larger margin value will be expressed, the smaller will "disappear."
> 
> what I'm seeing here as the problem is child element margin top value is
> pushing its parent downward.
> 
> and I don't get why?  Is the parent the "boss" of the child?
> 
> 
> Thank yoU!
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 2:17 PM, "Mauricio Silva"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi J,
>> 
>> THis happens due the classic "CSS Collapsing Margins" behavior Have a 
>> look at: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Collapsing_Margin
>> for a compreensive explanation.
>> Regards
>> 
>> Maurício Samy Silva
>> http://maujor.com
>> http://facebook.com/maujor
>> @maujor
>> 
>> 
>> -Mensagem original-
>> De: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
>> [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] Em nome de COM Enviada 
>> em: domingo, 12 de maio de 2013 17:50
>> Para: CSS-Discuss
>> Assunto: [css-d] child margin affecting parent?
>> 
>> Given the css below, why should the header margin value also push the 
>> wrapper downward? In my markup, the wrapper div is the parent, 
>> margin:0, auto;
>> 
>> thank you
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> *{
>> padding:0;
>> margin:0;
>> }
>> body{
>>  background-color:rgb(200,200,200);
>>  font-family:helvetic-neue, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
>>  font-size:100%;
>> }
>> #wrapper{
>>  margin:0 auto;
>>  width:940px;
>>  padding:0 20px;
>>  background-color:rgb(220,230,220);
>> }
>> header{
>>  margin:20px 0 1em 0;
>>  border:red 1px solid;
>> }
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Re: [css-d] RES: child margin affecting parent?

2013-05-12 Thread COM
I am not sure that this is collapsing margins..perhaps I don't get "margin 
collapse" but I thought it meant if 2 block level items touching vertically, 
the larger margin value will be expressed, the smaller will "disappear."

what I'm seeing here as the problem is child element margin top value is 
pushing its parent downward.

and I don't get why?  Is the parent the "boss" of the child?


Thank yoU!

John


On May 12, 2013, at 2:17 PM, "Mauricio Silva"  wrote:

> Hi J,
> 
> THis happens due the classic "CSS Collapsing Margins" behavior
> Have a look at: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Collapsing_Margin
> for a compreensive explanation.
> Regards
> 
> Maurício Samy Silva
> http://maujor.com
> http://facebook.com/maujor
> @maujor
> 
> 
> -Mensagem original-----
> De: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org
> [mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] Em nome de COM
> Enviada em: domingo, 12 de maio de 2013 17:50
> Para: CSS-Discuss
> Assunto: [css-d] child margin affecting parent?
> 
> Given the css below, why should the header margin value also push the
> wrapper downward? In my markup, the wrapper div is the parent, margin:0,
> auto;
> 
> thank you
> 
> J
> 
> *{
> padding:0;
> margin:0;
> }
> body{
>   background-color:rgb(200,200,200);
>   font-family:helvetic-neue, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
>   font-size:100%;
> }
> #wrapper{
>   margin:0 auto;
>   width:940px;
>   padding:0 20px;
>   background-color:rgb(220,230,220);
> }
> header{
>   margin:20px 0 1em 0;
>   border:red 1px solid;
> }
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[css-d] child margin affecting parent?

2013-05-12 Thread COM
Given the css below, why should the header margin value also push the wrapper 
downward? In my markup, the wrapper div is the parent, margin:0, auto;

thank you

J

*{
padding:0;
margin:0;
}
body{
background-color:rgb(200,200,200);
font-family:helvetic-neue, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size:100%;
}
#wrapper{
margin:0 auto;
width:940px;
padding:0 20px;
background-color:rgb(220,230,220);
}
header{
margin:20px 0 1em 0;
border:red 1px solid;
}
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Re: [css-d] background image not appearing

2013-04-26 Thread COM

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:29 PM, "Tom Livingston"  wrote:

> Right so you have to back out of the CSS dir then go into the image dir to 
> get your background image, where as the HTML just had to go into the CSS dir 
> to get the sheet.
> 

OK..alright…this is a key bit of learning for Johnny today..thank you.

J

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Re: [css-d] background image not appearing

2013-04-26 Thread COM

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, COM  wrote:

>> Background images are relative to the CSS not the HTML 

Wait..so…you're saying that the .css document is "making the call" for the 
background image and NOT the HTML page?
so, if the styles were in the html document head, THEN it would be one up?

Sorry, I just really need to get this straight in my head, who's lookin for 
what in this hierarchy..

thank you,

John
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Re: [css-d] background image not appearing

2013-04-26 Thread COM

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "Tom Livingston"  wrote:

> Background images are relative to the CSS not the HTML 

I get that but here's a screen grab showing that the image is "1 folder up" and 
that the .css file is, too "1 folder up"

ergo, the same relationship from html file to css file as from html file to 
image file. Isn't it? Different folders, yes, but "1 up?"

link:

http://coffeeonmars.com/screenshots/imagecsshtml.jpg

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Re: [css-d] background image not appearing

2013-04-26 Thread COM

On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Micky Hulse  wrote:

> Have you tried:
> 
> background-image:url(../image/bricktile.jpg);

That works, but I don't get it because for the css, THIS works: 
css/hwthreestyles.css

where css is the folder where the .css file lives.  why the leading ../ for the 
image but not needed for the css?

thank you!

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[css-d] background image not appearing

2013-04-26 Thread COM
given the  code below and that my "bricktile.jpg" is 1 level up from my 
index.html in a folder named "image" can anyone tell me why my background-image 
refuses to appear?

I've been looking at it for half hour and I am baffled. thank you for any clues.

John

body{
font-size:100%;
font-family:Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
background-image:url(image/bricktile.jpg);
}


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Re: [css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM

On Apr 18, 2013, at 3:07 PM, "Jukka K. Korpela"  wrote:

>> What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the "M" is?
> 
> You don't. The font designer decides the dimensions of letters, relative to 
> the font size.

OK…so the 1em is just a starting point and you adjust to suit..or these are all 
*relative* sizes because in the child elements you might spec font-size: .85em ?

..so that if User cranks up the sizes, everything sizes up (or down) in the 
same relationship?

J
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[css-d] font-size in body selector?

2013-04-18 Thread COM
My understanding of font-size spec is: 100% = 1 em = the size of an "M" and 
that this is 16px high.

What I am not clear is: where do you tell the browser how large the "M" is? Is 
it universally understood that 1 "M" is 16 pixels high?

thank you!

John
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[css-d] ul bullets: change color?

2013-04-14 Thread COM
I am having a tough time finding online (google, w3schools) the correct way to 
change the color of bullets in an unordered list, *independently* from the 
color of the bullet text.There seem to be what the authors refer to as hacks, 
and some techniques where the bullet is a .gif.

I'd like to keep the bullets all code, but have control of their color AND the 
color of the bullet text.

can someone point me in the right direction?

thank you!

John
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Re: [css-d] Problem with floated links at right of page in FF

2008-02-12 Thread haveboard . com
> the sidebar links FF places a faint dotted line around the link that
extends
> all the way across the page to the left side. It is intended as an
> indication that the link is actively selected, but it is very distracting,

a {outline:none;}

this should do the trick

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Re: [css-d] CSS/XHTML/PHP/MYSQL shopping carts?

2005-07-24 Thread Brent - Bibleinfo . com

Thanks for the reply... Didn't mean to reply off list.

I'll have to look at CubeCart as I am just getting very frustrated with  
xCart. Too bad I already paid for xCart, but it is just driving me  
nuts!


Cheers,
Brent Hardinge
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On Jul 24, 2005, at 1:31 PM, BJ wrote:


http://www.cubecart.com/site/home/

I just got it installed, haven't yet started work on the  
customization, but I already have a few great things to say about it.   
The only hosting account without fantastico is the one I set it up on,  
and without a doubt it's the easiest install I've ever done.  The  
default template has NO TABLES.  So I'm hoping it's robust enough for  
my needs.  Seems to be pretty cool, support board is active, and the  
price is right (free with linkback)


Good luck!

Brent - Bibleinfo.com wrote:


BJ,

Just wondering if you found anything. I'm still looking too.

I've been playing with xcart but that is a nightmare as well with  
lots of non valid code.


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On Jun 6, 2005, at 5:04 PM, BJ wrote:

Adam C., did you ever finish developing that css friendly shopping  
cart you posted about last fall? Inquiring minds wanna know . . .  
and after looking at ZenCart's supposedly css friendly design I'm  
really hoping you've got something in the can.  What a nightmare  
THAT one is!  Tables up the darkside, and nothing that looks clean.  
I doubt any one page would make it through a validator.


Barring that, does anyone have any suggestions?  There's nothing in  
the wiki re shopping carts.  Looking for something mysql/php since  
that's what I'm most familiar deciphering, and that uses CSS in the  
themes/templates with total customization possible.  I don't need a  
bunch of bells and whistles.  There are only going to be a few  
hundred product pages in less than a dozen categories  Paypal  
processing is enough.



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