Re: [css-d] IE6/7 (standards-mode) dynamic width divs (using percentages and float:left) seem to spill when = 100%?

2008-11-13 Thread Michael Park
 50% + 50% isn't always exactly 100% ... you can expect 100% +/-1px,

Yup, that's why I thought maybe one of the ('overflow', 'margin',
'padding', 'border') css properties would do the trick. I guess not in
this case.

 With line-ups like yours the easiest solution is to pull in the
 backside-margin on the last float, so the actual width becomes less than
 the visual width...

Aha, so that's the trick. Interesting, I wonder why the 'overflow'
property doesn't come into play here though.. At any rate, many thanks
for that clear and succinct explanation. That looks like the
work-around I've been looking for.

Thanks again Georg!
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Re: [css-d] IE6/7 (standards-mode) dynamic width divs (using percentages and float:left) seem to spill when = 100%?

2008-11-13 Thread Michael Park
 I've tried to explain this in more depth here...
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_26.html
 ...and included as many links to examples and relevant internal and
 external articles as I could think of.

Very cool, thanks again for your help with this Georg.


--Mike
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[css-d] IE6/7 (standards-mode) dynamic width divs (using percentages and float:left) seem to spill when = 100%?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael Park
Hi there,

I've been reading quite a bit about the various IE box model 
float-related work-arounds, but I haven't encountered anything yet to
my knowledge that  addresses or explains the issue that I'm seeing
with IE6/7 (thankfully, IE5.x is old enough to be out of the picture
for this project).

Basically, my intention is to create dynamic widths, evenly divided
amongst several columns totalling up to 100% of the containing div
(yes, this is more or less doable with tables, but I'm trying to
determine why this is so troublesome with divs). Here's the simplest
example I could think of:

...
  div id=x
div id=x_1part1/div
div id=x_2part2/div
  /div
...

http://emparq.com/scratch/test1.html

Note that:
- the width of parent div is unspecified (to allow resizing)
- each child div (containing the text 'part1' and 'part2')
  * gets 50% of the width (thus totalling 100%)
  * floated to the left

...when resizing the browser window in IE6/7, sometimes 'part 2' will
apparently exceed the container width, and spill over into the next
row (placed under 'part 1'). This looks like something float or
box-model-related, as quirks-mode doesn't seem to suffer this problem:

(note: only the DOCTYPE directive was removed)
http://emparq.com/scratch/test0.html

...and while that's all well and good, quirks-mode isn't really a
viable option. Moving on, I tried removing the 'width' and 'float' css
properties from the 2nd child div (the one containing the text
'part2') to let it consume the remainder of the parent's width:

http://emparq.com/scratch/test2.html

...which does succeed at rendering how I wanted. But really, what I'm
trying to understand is why floated divs with widths totalling up to
100% causes spillover? And is there a way to prevent that (perhaps
using some obscure combination of css properties?), while leaving the
'float' and 'width' properties intact?

Some other attempts: (that didn't correct the behavior):

- setting 'overflow:visible'
- setting 'margin', 'padding', and 'border' to 0 on child divs
- 'zoom:1' (I don't think 'hasLayout' should be an issue anyways,
since I'm already using width?)

Could anyone help enlighten me on what's going on with this behavior,
and if there's a better approach to
evenly-divided-yet-dynamically-resizing-width divs than what I've got
in 'test2.html'?

Thanks.


--Mike
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