Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 81, Issue 19

2009-08-25 Thread ross
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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 81, Issue 17

2009-08-20 Thread ross
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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 81, Issue 16

2009-08-19 Thread ross
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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 81, Issue 15

2009-08-16 Thread ross
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[css-d] list elements in ie6

2008-03-03 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

 

I am creating a vertical DD menu, and IE 6 does not like this. It outputs
the list like a set of steps/stairs

 

 

Menu item1

Menu item2

Menu item3

 



Can anyone tell me what the selector should be? I have sorted this in other
projects by defining the list element and the anchor separately (in 2
definitions) but this just seems WRONG. Is there a way to fix this for IE?

 

 

 

ul#mainMenu li  a{

float:left;

clear:none;

padding-right:20px;

height:25px;

display:block;

text-align:center;

text-decoration:none;

color:#7f7a26;

font-weight:bold;

padding-left:20px;

font-size:12px;

padding-top:5px;

}

 

 

R.

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[css-d] IE 6 absolute positioning bug

2007-11-14 Thread Ross Hulford
I  have a problem with my #home #middleColum totally disapearing in IE6. Any 
ideas why? Thanks.


The CSS

@charset utf-8;
/* CSS Document */

body {
padding:0;
margin:0;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
color:#FF;
/*background-image:url(../images/bodyBg.gif);*/

}

#container {
width:100%;
height:200px;
float:left;
position:relative;

}




#leftSide{
position:absolute;
left:0px;
top:0px;
width:135px;
height:800px;
padding-left:35px;
padding-top:100px;
background-image:url(../images/leftSide.gif);


}

#rightSide{
position:absolute;
width:300px;
height:800px;
background:url(../images/rightSide.gif) no-repeat;
left:690px;
padding-left:20px;
padding-top:240px;
}
#rightSide ul{
padding:0;
margin:0;
list-style:none;
font-size:11px;
color:#FF;
}

#rightSide ul a{
text-decoration:none;
color:#FFF;
}



#home #middleColumn, #history #middleColumn, #philosophy #middleColumn, 
#contact #middleColumn{
position:absolute;
top:0px;
left:170px;
width:520px;
height:600px;
background-color:#00;
background-image:url(../images/mainMiddle.jpg);
display:block;
}

#courses #middleColumn, #ptCourses #middleColumn, #ftCourses #middleColumn, 
#shortCourses #middleColumn, #postgradCourses #middleColumn{
position:absolute;
left:170px;
float:left;
width:520px;
height:600px;
background-image:url(../images/courseMiddle.jpg);
}



!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleMary Reid School of Beauty/title
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=css/maryReid.css
/head
body
div id=container
  div id=leftSide

ul id=mainMenu
li class=schoolButtona href=#/a/li
li class=coursesButtona href=#/a/li
li class=opportunitiesButtona href=#/a/li
li class=newsButtona href=#/a/li
/ul
/div
  
  
  


/div



  div id=middleColumn
  div id=content

  h1Intro Text. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer 
adipiscing elit. Vivamus vehicula justo sed enim. Maecenas tempus laoreet leo. 
Vestibulum sit amet est vitae pede consequat convallis./h1

h2Lorum Ipsom/h2
p
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Curabitur 
porttitor sapien sollicitudin lorem. Cras lacinia blandit felis. Aliquam erat 
volutpat. Nullam viverra aliquam neque. Nunc neque ante, tincidunt sit amet, 
feugiat ac, aliquet sit amet, arcu. Vestibulum iaculis, lorem at nonummy 
lobortis, nisl massa pulvinar odio, ut fermentum enim lacus id elit. Class 
aptent taciti sociosqu ad litora torquent per conubia nostra, per inceptos 
hymenaeos. Vivamus eu lacus. Maecenas nisl. Suspendisse massa. Nam turpis quam, 
pulvinar vel, adipiscing eget, vulputate in, urna. Donec vehicula quam quis 
pede./p


/div
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[css-d] footer disapears in ie 6

2007-10-18 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

My footer disapears in IE6. It seems to happen when my #container is reduced 
to 800px. Any ideas why?

Thanks,

R.

http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~suruch1/test/
http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~suruch1/test/css/





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[css-d] should I worry about the warnings?

2007-10-15 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

My CSS validates, however I get loads of warning

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwallacewhittle.comwarning=1profile=css21usermedium=all



Generally they are Same colors for color and background-color in two 
contexts


Should I be looking to eliminate the warnings if so how because I want the 
text and the container div to be white?


R. 


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[css-d] iepngfix disables my links

2007-10-12 Thread Ross Hulford
when I apply the iepngfix.htc in my css with the line

div{
behavior: url('css/iepngfix.htc');
}

all the links become inactive. Does anyone have any idea why this happens? I am 
using and old version of the .htc?

http://suruchirestaurant.com/test/css/iepngfix.htc
http://suruchirestaurant.com/test/index.php


Thanks,


R.
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Re: [css-d] iepngfix disables my links

2007-10-12 Thread Ross Hulford
No it is correct as the fix is applied (the shadow border is a transparent 
png IS transparent). It just seems to knock out the links.

R.




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 iepngfix.htc');
 }

 all the links become inactive. Does anyone have any idea why this
 happens? I am using and old version of the .htc?

 http://suruchirestaurant.com/test/css/iepngfix.htc
 http://suruchirestaurant.com/test/index.php


 Thanks,


 Hi Ross

 You have called the htc file from css/iepngfix.htc.
 Shouldn't this be ('./iepngfix.htc') as the fix is in the same folder as
 the CSS?

 Or have I missed something?

 Ian
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[css-d] newbie questions

2007-10-10 Thread Ross
Hey everyone. I'm new to the css-discuss community. Thanks for helping me
with these two super-simple newbie questions. I use DW8.

1. On this page http://adswebsite.net/yahoo-search-versus-google-adwords, on
the right column where it says More AdsWebsite Guides and below that, the
colored cells/rows are taller than I want. How can I keep them about the
same height as the text for each cell? On this page: html
http://adswebsite.net/affiliate-networks-for-webmasters.html I added a css
attribute for line-height = 1 ems, but that didn't help for the
http://adswebsite.net/yahoo-search-versus-google-adwords page. ???

2. The digg link is javascript, and when you click on it, it opens to the
same page. I would like it to open to a new page. How do I do that with this
particular link where the script is provided by digg? (oops, that's not a
css question)

Thanks for your time to answer these questions! Looking at the archives...I
have a LOT to learn.

Ross

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Re: [css-d] z-index - flash object on firefox under linux

2007-10-03 Thread Ross Hulford
try adding

param name=wmode value=transparent

if you haven't already beside the other ones

param name=movie value=mymovie.swf
param name=quality value=high
param name=wmode value=transparent


R.

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 happening only on firefox under linux.
 
 Is there any css hack or something?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Phillip
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[css-d] Absolute position problem in IE

2007-10-02 Thread Ross Hulford
I have an absolutely positioned div #button iside a relative container.


div id=container

div id=inside-container

 div id=top_curve/div

div id=buttona href=http://www.mysite.com;Our Website/a/div

This is fine in FF and ie7 but in ie6 it disapears. Anyone hazzard a guess 
why this happens. It reappears if I make it relative

#container {
width:751px;
margin-left:auto;
margin-right:auto;
float:none;
position:relative;

}
#inside-container {
 width:751px;
 min-height:400px;
 position:relative;
 margin-left:auto;
 margin-right:auto;
 float:left;
 background-image:url(../images/main_image.jpg);
 background-position:-2px 0px;
 background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-color:#80;

}

#button {
position:absolute;
display:block;
width:100px;
height:100px;
color:#99;
top:200px;
right:0px;
background-color:#00;
}




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[css-d] css style swapper

2007-09-28 Thread Ross Hulford
I am looking for a simple script that uses javascript to determine the the 
screen resolution and swap in etiher a high res or a low res stylesheet.


Thanks.



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[css-d] wordbreak

2007-09-17 Thread Ross Hulford
Is it possible to break up words inside a table? My words when too long jump 
to the next line instead of breaking up.

Is there any css porperty that works?

R.


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Re: [css-d] switching text size

2007-09-13 Thread Ross Hulford
http://www.dyn-web.com/dhtml/sizefont/index.php#examples

http://www.white-hat-web-design.co.uk/articles/js-fontsize.php

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[css-d] named anchors in IE

2007-09-12 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a css menu

lia href=#cadCAD Operators/a

a id=cad/a
when I try to link to a named anchor in ie it does not work what am I doing 
wrong?

R. 


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Re: [css-d] named anchors in IE

2007-09-12 Thread Ross Hulford
This code works

h2 id=cad name=cadsome text/h2

The problem is not that it uses 'id 'or 'name' but that it is empty. How do 
I use the haslayout property, like this? Does it validate?


h2 {
hasProperty = True;

} 


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[css-d] images and the suckerfish

2007-09-12 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a problem in ie6

http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~wallace/specialist_abilities/communications.php

The suckerfish menu goes behind the images. I had this working before but 
cannot figure out how I did it. Any ideas?


R. 


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Re: [css-d] images and the suckerfish

2007-09-12 Thread Ross Hulford
Foget this. It was working just my 
ie6_is_an_absolutey_tragic_excuse_for_a_browser.css file was not linking 
properly.

Ta,


R. 


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[css-d] Stepped menu in ie6

2007-09-09 Thread Ross Hulford
I a crearting a basic horizintal menu with CSS.  The problem is in IE6 is 
looks like a set of steps

First item
Second item
Third item
Fourth Item

I have done loads of these and cannot understand what is happening this 
time.

#cat_menu  ul{
list-style:none;
padding:0;
margin:0;


}
#cat_menu  li a{
color:#ccc;
float:left;
padding:5px;
border-right:1px solid #fff;
background-color:#333;
font-size:10pt;
height:20px;
display:inline;


}
#cat_menu  li a:hover{
background-color:#99;
text-decoration:none;

} 


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Re: [css-d] IE6 to IE7 to IE6 design

2007-09-07 Thread Ross Hulford
Take Nicks' advice:

- ALWAYS start with Firefox as your testing browser!
- if you have alignment probmlems (probably a few double float and width 
bugs) make a css file for ie6 and use the conditionals (put this below all 
your other css links)

!--[if IE 6]
link href=css/ie6.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
![endif]--


No more headaches just perfct cross-browser pages.


R.

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 patabilities.

 Now, I have to make the design cross browser (IE6, IE7 and Firefox).
 I'm sure I can do these with a lot of time (and right frame of mind)
 but is there any approach that you can suggest so that there will be
 less hair-pulling for me? :)


 The most important thing is to forget about IE 6 to start with; its 
 support
 for CSS is so badly broken that, pretty much by definition, if it works in
 IE 6, you've done it wrong.

 If you first get it looking right in Firefox, you'll find that things will
 work the same way in just about every other browser, including IE 7. 
 You'll
 also find that it's probably totally broken in IE 6. However, there are a
 few simple techniques to coerce IE 6 into interpreting things correctly,
 which is where this list can help you. Feed those fixes to IE 6 using an
 extra stylesheet included using conditional comments, and you're done.

 To give you an idea of the sort of thing I'm talking about: I built a page
 which took about an hour to style correctly for Firefox; it also then 
 worked
 correctly in Opera, Safari and IE 7. In IE 6 it exploded in a mass of 
 broken
 pieces scattered all over the screen. It took precisely two lines of
 non-standard IE-only CSS (setting zoom: 1; on a couple of elements to be
 precise) to get IE 6 looking the same as everything else.

 The best thing you can do, if you have it working in IE 6, is to throw it
 away and start again. Trying to go in the direction of getting IE
 6-compatible CSS to work in proper browsers is the road to insanity.

 Regards,

 Nick.
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[css-d] links in ie 6

2007-09-01 Thread Ross Hulford
I have 3 links...

page
a href=faq.php?q=faq1 class=unselected1/a
a href=faq2.php?q=faq82/a
a href=faq3.php?q=faq143/a


in FF they line up horizontally but in ie6 they clear so they look like a 
vertical list

page 1 2  3 4

and in IE6

page

1
2
3
4

the css


#faq_nav {
color:#00;
position:absolute;
bottom:10px;
margin-top:10px;
}

#faq_nav a {
display:inline;
color:#000;
}
#faq_nav a:link {
display:inline;
color:#000;
}
#faq_nav .unselected{
text-decoration:none;
}
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[css-d] img and the suckerfish IE6

2007-08-29 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

As you can see from this I am having problems with the stacking order with 
IMG tags over the sucker fish.

http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~wallace/sd/reducing_energy.php

I have tried a z-index but this does not work. This is the first time I have 
encountered this as I always use background images, however for this project 
the client needs to be able to update the images easily and without any CSS.

Anyone offer a suggestion?

R. 


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[css-d] indenting text not in a tag.

2007-08-08 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a news page like this


div id=container


span class=headingArchive News 1/span

span class=sub_headingitem 1/span 

This is ny news item

span class=headingArchive News 2/span

span class=sub_headingItem 2/span 

This is another news item


span class=headingArchive News 3/span

span class=sub_headingItem 3/span 

This is another news item


/div

This goes on forever. I need to indent all the text but when I use 

#container {
text-indent :30px;

}

the two spans indent but the ordinary text does not indent. Is there a way 
other than wrapping in P tags to get them to indent. This page is very long 
so adding p tags would take ages.


R.
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[css-d] validating the css htc

2007-08-05 Thread Ross Hulford
Morning,


Any ideas how I can get the PNG fix to validate? 

this is the offending line.

img, div, span { behavior: url(css/iepngfix.htc) }


Ta,


R.
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Re: [css-d] Suckerfish Challenge

2007-07-09 Thread Ross
You have done well so far. I have always found it is a bit of trial and 
error to get these working the way you want it.

If you use the list id's then you can set the width of each dropdown. e.g

ul#programs_submenu  li a {
width:20em;
background-color: orange;
}

You will also have to tweek the horizontal sub menus so they move along a 
bit.


R.

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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: [css-d] Suckerfish Challenge


I am preparing a site for a redesign.  For now I am just trying to make
 the site more accessible while keeping the old design (it isn't mine) in
 place so I am reworking one element at a time.  I am starting with the
 top navigation menu, which is a horrible (in terms of being accessible)
 javascript drop-down which you can see here:
 http://www.thecentersd.org/programs.php
 Is it possible to replicate this using some form of Suckerfish?
 I have a basic Son of Suckerfish experiment here
 http://www.thecentersd.org/navtest.html
 and the problems I am facing should be obvious.  I need the sub-item
 ul's to be wide enough not to wrap (I have specified 10em per the
 original Son of Suckerfish on html dog which is too short) but as it is
 they are already too wide for my top level (I only have 786 pixels to
 work with)
 I have never tried anything like this with Suckerfish before and I am
 wondering if it is even possible. (I admit I am over my head.)  I have
 assigned ids for all of my top level li's as well as all sub-menu ul's.
 What I am thinking is I can specify the width of each of the different
 nav items and but then is there a way that I can make the top level li's
 evenly spaced as they are on the current menu?
 Any help is really appeciated!!!




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Re: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6

2007-07-06 Thread ross
Well know bug.


There is a javascript fix but it only applies to img not background images 
for divs as far as I know.

Anyone else?

Ross
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Subject: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6


 HI,

 Hopefully if you check this page in any browser it should work ok.
 http://www.3pointdesign.com/websites2.html
 However in IE6 the transparency of the pngs does not work. I can go
 back and add the right background colour to all the images but would
 rather know if there was a fix, or whether that is the only option.

 Thanks

 Christopher Blake
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Re: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6

2007-07-06 Thread Ross
Thats is one ugly fix. Does it validate?

http://bjorkoy.com/past/2007/4/8/the_easiest_way_to_png/




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Re: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6

2007-07-06 Thread ross
Before I go delving into these. Do any of them validate. If no then I can't 
use them.

thanks,

R.
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From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6


 Hi, Chris...

 I'm using a script from TwinHelix.com, called IE PNG Fix v1.0 RC4...
 that's
 the current version.  It uses a CSS behavior modification to allow png's 
 to
 work in IE 5.5  IE 6.

 It's working perfectly...

 Go to www.TwinHelix.com and mouse-over CSS in the menu and you'll see the
 link.

 Check it out and let me know if you need some help implementing it.  Once
 it's
 working you'll never know it's there and you'll never want to leave home
 without it! :o)

 Rick

 (PS - Works on img's and background img's, too.  However, a limitation of 
 IE
 6 won't
 allow the IE PNG Fix solution to react to positional attributes when an
 image is used
 as a background image of a div... but you can work around that...)


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 Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:01 AM
 To: css-d
 Subject: [css-d] transparent pngs don't show transparent in IE6

 HI,

 Hopefully if you check this page in any browser it should work ok.
 http://www.3pointdesign.com/websites2.html
 However in IE6 the transparency of the pngs does not work. I can go
 back and add the right background colour to all the images but would
 rather know if there was a fix, or whether that is the only option.

 Thanks

 Christopher Blake
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Re: [css-d] alignment using CSS

2007-07-06 Thread ross
That to me looks like  tabular data. Why not...use tables.


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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: [css-d] alignment using CSS


 Dear Oh Most Helpful List,
 
 I have a list of hours
 
 Monday - Friday  9:00 AM - 9:00 PM  
 Saturday 9:00 AM - 7:00 PM 
 Sunday Closed
 
 
 I want the times to be aligned on one side and the days aligned. Any
 idea on how to do this?  All I can find is hack using tables. There's
 got to be a better way.
 
 I'm thinking code similar to this
 style
 
 .hours{
 list-style:none;
 text-align:left;
 }
 
 .time{
 text-align:right;
 position:absolute;
 left: 400px;
 }
 /style
 div
 ul class=hours
 liMonday - Fridayspan class=time9:00 AM - 9:00 PM/span/li  
 liSaturdayspan class=time9:00 AM - 7:00 PM/span/li 
 liSundayspan class=timeClosed/span/li
 /ul
 /div
 
 Now this will work however if I Stick this in a div then start moving
 the div around the absolute positioning will kind of mess things up
 right? This will position it absolutely to the page not the div. I'd
 also like to have something a little flexible for future updates.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Sarah
 
 
 
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[css-d] iframes - who still uses them

2007-07-02 Thread Ross
Hi,

Looking at the last post it got me thinking. Does anyone still use frames or 
iframes? Is it a valid development technique?


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[css-d] div 1px wide

2007-06-27 Thread Ross
I just want to create a 1px verical line. Is there a way to make divs 1px wide? 
Seem to be a minimum of 5-10px depending on browser.



Any other methods apart from bg images welcome.



Ross
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[css-d] son of suckerfish -IE6 problem

2007-06-18 Thread Ross
http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~wallace/long.php
http://vps.aztechost.co.uk/~wallace/css/


This works fine in FF but when I look at it in the IE 6  the sub lists have no 
background colour and are mis-aligned. Any ideas?


Ta,


R.


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[css-d] relative or absolute urls?

2007-06-17 Thread Ross
When linking to images do you use relative or absolute urls?

background-image:url(../images/myimage.jpg);

or

background-image:url(http://.mysite.php/images/myimage.jpg);





I have a common header on all pages with different folders and sub folders and 
the relative urls only work for the pages in main directory but the full url 
means I have to change them all when moving from local to remote hosts.

I can create a common page head with php but was looking for non php solution.

R.



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[css-d] min height with ie and ff

2007-06-13 Thread Ross
I did this a while back and cannot remember how.

I am sure I set 3 height properties to get it working and used !important 
somewhere.

min-height:400px; 
height:400px;


I want the div to have a min height of 400px; min-height works but if I put in 
the second height attribute the box does not get bigger as the content expands 
in FF;

any ideas?


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Re: [css-d] min height with ie and ff

2007-06-13 Thread Ross
In answer to my own question:

min-height:400px;
height:400px;
height:auto !important;


does height:auto !important; validate?




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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: [css-d] min height with ie and ff


I did this a while back and cannot remember how.

 I am sure I set 3 height properties to get it working and used !important 
 somewhere.

 min-height:400px;
 height:400px;


 I want the div to have a min height of 400px; min-height works but if I 
 put in the second height attribute the box does not get bigger as the 
 content expands in FF;

 any ideas?


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[css-d] css gradients

2007-06-07 Thread Ross
Are there any plans for gradient bg colours in CSS3?

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Re: [css-d] Positioning div without padding

2007-05-30 Thread ross
You need to make a container DIV for this whole bock of stuff and set 
text-align:center.


div id=right style=width:200px; height:400px; border:1px red solid; 
text-align:center
   img src=images/white_circ.gif border=0 alt=Image Swap Sample 
name=swap id=im style=padding: 12px; margin-bottom: 4px; 
padding-bottom: 0px; padding-top: 0px;


 div id=thumbnailtext style=border:1px solid greenpImage 
Description/p
  div id=productphotospbProduct Photos/b span 
class=style6(click to view)/div

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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:43 AM
Subject: [css-d] Positioning div without padding


I would like to center the text under image1 and have a blue border 
background around Product Photos click to view  I cannot seem to get the 
positioning right without using right padding.  If I use right padding then 
when I put the background color in it shows the padding also.  Here is a 
link to my site http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/help4.html and here 
is an image of what I am looking to do 
http://www.precisemessenger.com/private/images/samplesite.gif

 Thanks in advance,
 Kevin
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Re: [css-d] Divitis?

2007-05-29 Thread Ross Hulford
Yep. That;s the way I approach it. Much neater.

R.
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Divitis?


 Out of curiosity, why not use an unordered list--it would seem more
 semantically correct in this situation.
 
 You could change your div to a ul and wrap your items in li tags; then
 you can set the background of the the li tag to the image you want and
 position it appropriately.
 
 Brian
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Re: [css-d] Two background-images

2007-04-30 Thread Ross Hulford
Post full code with embeded css.
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Subject: [css-d] Two background-images


 Hi,

 I'm trying to place two background-images in the same document.

 one in the content element, and one in the nav element. I only get the 
 first
 one displaying no matter what I do.

 Have googled and what I've found seems to say can't be done, but like to
 make sure, hence this request.

 There was one site which implied they may have done something, but 
 couldn't
 get it to open in my browser.


 TIA for any help

 DG)
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[css-d] pure css tooltips

2007-04-30 Thread Ross Hulford
Hello,

I am trying to get this working and fails in.IE 6.  #map is just an anchor 
and the .popup is a span located inside the anchor. works fine in FF any ideas?



#lmap .popup {
 display: none;
}

#map:hover .popup { /*the span will display just on :hover state*/
 display: block !important;
 position: absolute;
 top: 5px; 
 left: 250px; 
 width: 150px;
 border: 1px solid #f00;
 background-color: #cff; 
 color: #000;
 padding: 10px;
 font-size: .8em;
 background-image:url(images/bg_butterfly.jpg);
}


 a href=# id=map style=width:300px; height:100px; display:block; 
border:1px solid green 
span class=popup
  This popup is set to 150px wide and is made absolute as well as 
  display:nbsp;block. which is the highest 
  value of the first three tests.
  /span
/a  
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Re: [css-d] pure css tooltips

2007-04-30 Thread Ross Hulford
That was jsut a typing errorin my email.
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [css-d] pure css tooltips


 Could it be
 
 #lmap .popup {
 display: none;
 }
 
 
 Should be 
 
 #map .popup {
 display: none;
 }
 
 
 But that doesn't explain how it worked in ff...
 


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[css-d] gettting a radiogroup to display horizontally?

2007-04-29 Thread Ross Hulford
Any ideas how this is done? 

Ross

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Re: [css-d] Trouble with positioning - not understanding this

2007-04-29 Thread ross
Make it absolutely postitioned within the footer div. To do this you must 
define the footer div as position:relative.

#outer_box{
margin:  0 auto;
padding: 0;
width: 760px;
}
#footer{ background-image: url(../bkgrnd_imgs/foot_bg.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-color: #0A2F76;
color: #FF; padding: 0;
margin:0 auto; height: 143px; width: 758px;
border: 1px solid #0A2F76;
 position:relative; // add this line
}
p.addr {text-align: center;
padding:  5px 0; margin: 0;
font-size: 0.8em;
}
#footer_tag { position: relative; bottom: 2px; }
 p.copy { position:absolute; left:0; bottom:0; }


div id=outerbox 

Some content divs for the top, and middle of the page


div id=footer 

p class=addr1815 S.W. Marlow,  Ashland, Oregon 97520br /
(541) 292-8912 #8226; (800) 681-3200/p


p class=copycopy; 2007 #8226; Progressive Associates
amp;a href=# Lane Design/a. All Rights Reserved./p


/div
div
/body
/html



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Subject: [css-d] Trouble with positioning - not understanding this


I am struggling with some positioning.  Basically, I have a div at the
 bottom of a page that is defined to have a height of 143px.
 It has a background image of that size.

 I then have some text that I want centered and positioned near the top
 of the div.  I put that in a p tag with a class=addr

 I then put another paragraph tag with a class of copy  I want this
 text at the very bottom of the footer div and aligned left.  I was
 having no luck with getting it on the bottom so  I wrapped the p.copy in
 a new div with an id of footer_tag, then I tried to position that
 relative with a bottom of 0.  But that doesn't seem to do it either.

 What would be the right way to get this bugger down to the bottom left
 of the footer?

 Here is the detail from the page:

 Styles
 #outer_box{
margin:  0 auto;
padding: 0;
width: 760px;
 }
 #footer{ background-image: url(../bkgrnd_imgs/foot_bg.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-color: #0A2F76;
color: #FF; padding: 0;
margin:0 auto; height: 143px; width: 758px;
border: 1px solid #0A2F76;
 }
 p.addr {text-align: center;
padding:  5px 0; margin: 0;
font-size: 0.8em;
 }
 #footer_tag { position: relative; bottom: 2px; }
 p.copy { padding: 6px ;  font-size: 0.7em;
 text-align: left; }

 Structure:

 div id=outerbox 

 Some content divs for the top, and middle of the page


 div id=footer 

p class=addr1815 S.W. Marlow,  Ashland, Oregon 97520br /
(541) 292-8912 #8226; (800) 681-3200/p

div id=footer_tag
p class=copycopy; 2007 #8226; Progressive Associates
amp;a href=# Lane Design/a. All Rights Reserved./p
/div  // closes footer_tag div

/div //closes footer div
 div //Closes the outerbox div
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[css-d] floating container

2007-04-28 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

I am looking for a way to make this expand with the content. The offending 
property is float:none. I can add another floating div inside called 
'floated-container' or something but is there a way to make float:none's 
recognised by it's children or a better way to center divs?

width:510px; 
min-height:400px; 
margin-left:auto; 
margin-right:auto; 
float:none; 
background-image:url(images/main_image.jpg); 
background-position:0px 0px; 
border:1px solid green; 
background-repeat:no-repeat; 
background-color:#CC;

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[css-d] transparent divs

2007-04-24 Thread Ross Hulford
 Hello,

This works in FF-

filter:alpha(opacity=60);
   -moz-opacity: 0.6;
   opacity: 0.6;

Is it valid?

Although it doesn't work in IE. Is there an ie transparency property that 
validates?

R.
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[css-d] sorting a list into blocks

2007-04-16 Thread Ross Hulford

I have a list of 10 items

ul
li
li
li
li
li
li
li
li
li
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[css-d] lists in blocks

2007-04-16 Thread Ross Hulford
I have an unordered list of 10 items

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

but I want to diaply it in block of 3

14710
258
369


Is this possible with css or any other method?


R.

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[css-d] css in HTML email

2007-04-06 Thread Ross Hulford
Quick question...

Do you:

(i) Embed CSS?

(ii) Link CSS?

(iii) Use inline CSS?


Do they all work equally well?


R.


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[css-d] does list-style-position actiually work

2007-03-27 Thread Ross Hulford
I tried ot on the li and ul

#content ul {
list-style:url(../images/li_flag.jpg);
list-style-position:60px 60px;
padding:20px;
}

can someone show me how?

R.
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Re: [css-d] does list-style-position actiually work

2007-03-27 Thread Ross Hulford
ok so it doesn't do what I thought it did.

I now revert back to background-image on the li

R.
- Original Message - 
From: Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] does list-style-position actiually work


 
 On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Ross Hulford wrote:
 
 I tried ot on the li and ul

 #content ul {
 list-style:url(../images/li_flag.jpg);
 list-style-position:60px 60px;
 padding:20px;
 }
 Never a bad idea to ask here:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#propdef-list-style-position
 
 Philippe
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[css-d] anchors and LI tags

2007-03-12 Thread Ross Hulford
li name=B id=BB

a class=pdflinks target=_blank href=download.php?id=100my title/a

/li

I get a warning line 382 column 7 - Warning: li proprietary attribute name.

I take it I cannot create a name on an li but what would be the best way to 
anchor the li to my link at the top of the page.

a href=#bB/a 
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[css-d] font style in disabled text boxes ie

2007-03-09 Thread Ross Hulford
The font in disabled textboxes takes on a horrible grey indented look (ie) does 
anyone know the property and how to overwrite it?


R.



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[css-d] turning off the text in a menu

2007-03-06 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a top leve' menu Item that are buttons. I need to turn the text off but 
display:none hide the button too.

 li class=topmenulia href=../home/index.php class=homeHome /a /li

Is it good practice to turn of the text like this

#dmenu .home {
font-size:0px;
}

It seems wrong. Is there an alternative way to turn just he text off?


R.
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[css-d] trying to override css form elements

2007-03-05 Thread Ross Hulford
I have all the input tags in a site but want to set a different value for all 
the checkboxes.

I have tried 

checkbox {

}

can checkboxes be isolated for css changes in this way or do I need to apply a 
class or id?

Ross
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Re: [css-d] 22. One CSS file for each browser (IE/Firefox)

2007-03-05 Thread Ross Hulford
When starting CSS this seems to be the major problem.

I tend to create a common CSS file and then make the page so they work in 
Firefox. Then, as suggested before, I have an IE fix css file that applies 
all the fixes needed for IE and this is inserted with the IE conditional.

This is the most tidy way to do it. No nasty hacks and your CSS will 
validate.

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[css-d] footer inside a centred container

2007-02-26 Thread Ross Hulford
Hello,

I have a centred container 


#container {
width:800px;
background-color:#3300FF;
margin-left:auto;
margin-right:auto;
position:relative;
float:none;
}


I have all my content in here but I also want a footer locked on to the bottom.


#footer {
position:absolute;
bottom:0;
height:10px;
background-color:#00CCFF;
border:1px red solid;
width:100%;
text-align:center;
}

This is fine when the parent (#container) div is floated but to centre it it 
needs to be float:none.


Is there a way around this problem other than to add a floated div inside the 
#container? Just seems a bit messy to add an extra div for this explicit 
purpose. 


R.
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Re: [css-d] footer inside a centred container

2007-02-26 Thread Ross Hulford
the oposite happened it worked in ie and  did nothing in firefox.

There is no reason this should work as CLEAR should only apply work on 
floated items not absolutely positioned one.



R. 


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Re: [css-d] footer inside a centred container

2007-02-26 Thread Ross Hulford
Have just bitten the bullet and added an extra wrapper id.

Life is too short!


R.

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[css-d] hiding menu text

2007-02-19 Thread Ross Hulford
I have the following menu and it works like this... topmenu list items are a 
class and display a background image. all the other submenu items are text.

I want to be able to hide the text on the topmenuli items but I need it to 
display when the css is switched off. Display:none hides everything and 
font-size:0px casscades down the menu. Is there a way to target and hide the 
text on the topmnenu.


ul class=topmenu id=dmenu
li class=topmenulia href=xxx class=homeHome /a /li
li class=topmenulia href=x class=aboutus About Us/a
  ul class=submenuul sub_about
 li class=submenulia href=xxxsome/li
  li class=submenulia href!more/li
   li class=submenulia href=sub/li
li class=submenulia href=menu/li
li class=submenulia href=items/a/li
  /ul


R.

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[css-d] targeting a link inside a h2 tag

2007-02-15 Thread Ross Hulford
Is there any way to target a link within a h2 tag. Link are already set and I 
want to set a style specificlly for links inside h2


h2Request our FREE recruitment DVD by clicking a class=link 
href=#here/a /h2


R.
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[css-d] link style problem

2007-02-13 Thread Ross Hulford
Hello,


I have about 20 links in a side menu


a href=1.phplink one/abr /
a href=2.phplink two /abr /
a href=3.phplink three /abr /
a href=4.phplink four/abr /
a href=5.phplink five/abr /
a href=6.phplink six /abr /

They are links to 20 locations. The layout of the pages are identical the only 
thing that changes is the address and map.

The body id of all 20 pages is the same body id=contacts but I need a 
clever way to highlight the link when I am on that particular pages.


I do not want multiple body id's if possible and the links list is a common 
file inserted via php (the locations often change and I only want to make one 
central ammendment)

I could do it with id's on the a tags and inline css but this seems a bit 
messy and bad practice.


Any ideas?


R.








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Re: [css-d] IE mac bugs

2007-02-08 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/8/07 6:55 AM, jeffrey morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 it's weird. when i view it online it looks ok but when i just view it
 locally on my imac the content column gets hung up. so if anyone looks at
 this and it's not working please let me know what you think is going on.
 thanks!!
 
 http://www.melissagerstein.com/ie_mac_bugs.html

It looks fine to me in Mac IE 5.2.

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[css-d] Links with separator lines

2007-02-08 Thread Diane Ross
I use  #page_links and .footerbar for links. The problem shows on this page
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

but

show OK on this page (and other pages on the site that use the same divs)
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/exchange/index.html

The Problem:

In Opera and FireFox on the Mac, I'm seeing two separator lines after the
first link. 

IE 5.2 on the Mac shows the separator lines inside the link or way to one
side in both #page_links and #footer. There are other problems with IE Mac
that I'll address in a separate subject.

Safari Mac and OmniWeb Mac are OK for both page links and footer links.

On the PC side there is no problem with the separator lines for IE 6. I'm
seeing space after the first link Search A-Z Index. I'm guessing this is a
padding issue. I haven't been able to test in other PC browsers yet. Have
been downloading Opera and Firefox and the rate they are going it's going to
be hours just to download. Running VPC isn't what you would call swift.

My first thought was to check for some extraneous code but there is none
that I see. I don't understand why it works on other pages and not the home
page. I can see that IE Mac would be problematic but for other browser to
have a problem with just this one page is confusing.


CSS
---
#page_links {text-align: center;
margin-top: 1.5em;
}
.linksbar {
list-style-type: none;
padding:4px 0;
}
.linksbar li {
display: inline;
border-left: 1px solid #00;
font-size: .8em;
padding: 0 1px 0px 3px;
}
.linksbar li.first {
border:none;
}


.footerbar {
list-style-type: none;
padding:4px 0;
}
.footerbar li {
display: inline;
border-left: 1px solid #00;
font-size: .8em;
padding: 0 1px 0px 3px;
}
.footerbar li.first {
border:none;
---

HTML
---

div id=page_links
ul class=linksbar
li class=first
a href=faq/index.htmlSearch A-Z Index/a
li
li
a href=faq/top_faqs.htmlMost Asked Questions/a
/li
li
a href=faq/2004.htmlFAQs for Entourage 2004/a
/li
li
a href=faq_topic/sync_services_ical.htmlSync Services/a
/li
li
a href=new2mac.htmlnew2mac amp; Entourage/a
/li
li
a href=menumachine/topnav/navigation.htmlSite Map/a
/li
/ul
/div

---
div id=footer
ul class=footerbar
li class=first
a href=http://www.entourage.mvps.org/;Home/a
/li
li
a href=http://www.entourage.mvps.org/about.html;About/a
/li
li
a href=disclaimer.htmlDisclaimer/a
/li
/ul

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Re: [css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-08 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/8/07 5:53 AM, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed, this is the direction to find the culprit. You assigned the
 {width:150px} to the .quicklinks and so on, but then the border-width is
 added to the box-width. Then FF is giving overflow + hor. scrollbar to
 see the overflow, and IE is extending the surrounding right-floated
 #sidebar (thus extending to the left, coming in conflict with the width
 of the content, and dropping down because later in the normal flow).

I omitted the width in the #sidebar and the drop down problem is fixed. I
appreciate knowing what I did and why.

I'm not sure if I created another problem because I also omitted the width
in the right sidebar boxes. They were identical to the left even though they
had not caused a problem. Now in IE 7, part way down in the MVP Links box
the links just stop and the following boxes are not showing up. It's not a
problem in any Mac browser or in IE 6.

Did removing the width do this, or is this a display problem using VPC to
view the pages?

http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

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Re: [css-d] Links with separator lines

2007-02-08 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/8/07 6:57 PM, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it´s not stupid at all if you don´t see one missing slash after
 numerous cut-copy-paste actions in a large and complicated code. But you
 don´t have to see everything yourself by eye and by hand: the validators
 are eager to help (if clicked ;-) ).
 As a lazy boy, I first validate if something seems not ok (2 seconds
 rest to take some coffee), and only if the validators are green, and the
 error is still there, I´m going to look in the code for bug hunting. :-)

Thanks for the reminder. I have become used to the GoLive bugs that are
added (obviously they don't cover very much) and have not gotten into the
habit of validating my code.

Again, thanks for the help.

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Re: [css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-07 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/4/07 11:31 PM, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * testpage 2 
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-base2.html
 
 So I guess it must be some margin or padding in the inner parts of the
 #sidebar, for when we make the width of the #sidebar some 10px smaller,
 it's ok.

How did you come up with 10px?
 
 * testpage 3 
 http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-base3.html

I have some questions on the change you suggested to the sidebar.

div class=quicklinks style=width: 140px;

You mention margins...do I adjust margins for divs inside the sidebar or
simply change the size as you suggested?

Rather than just do-it, I want to understand what I'm doing. I really
appreciate your patience with me on this.

#quicklinks is inside the #sidebar. I have both set for width 150. Is this
wrong thinking to make them the same?

#sidebar {
text-align: left;
width: 150px;
float: right;
margin-top: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-bottom: 0; }

/*Quicklinks
*/
.quicklinks {
width: 150px;
border: solid 1px #ccc;
margin: 0;
}


You can view the site with just the cleanup for the divs here:

http://www.entourage.mvps.org/
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Re: [css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-05 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/4/07 11:31 PM, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I guess it must be some margin or padding in the inner parts of the
 #sidebar, for when we make the width of the #sidebar some 10px smaller,
 it's ok.

I'm reluctant to even respond at this late hour when my head is mush, but I
don't see how you made the #sidebar 10 px smaller. Where in the 'CSS' did
you do this?

I'm off to bed and will get back to this tomorrow when I am hopefully more
clear headed.

Thanks for the quick responses.

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Re: [css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-05 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/4/07 8:40 PM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it may be markup rather than css issue. Compare the order in
 which the divisions are closed in Ryan Brill's layout with yours. It is
 a tricky layout-- very easy to get the division closings out of order.

I thought I was being careful to comment out the divs when I set up, but
somehow there were some critical changes made. It took a bit to go back and
correct my markup, but it's working now.

One of my biggest problems is knowing how to troubleshoot problems. I feel
like I have made a small step today learning from your suggestions.

Thanks to francky for his comments in sending me in the right direction. I
wish I had read his Golden Rules of CSS prior to starting my journey into
CSS. I especially want to point out to other newbies #5 The personal
archive: SAVE EVERY STEP with an OWN VERSION NUMBER!

http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/golden-rules-of-css.htm

I can recommend to Mac users FolderOrgX. FolderOrg is an AppleScript Folder
Action that organizes files and folders by moving them into dated
subfolders. This is helpful in keeping files and folders organized by the
day they were added, not created or modified.

http://homepage.mac.com/dougeverly/folderorg.html

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[css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-04 Thread Diane Ross
I was working on my template and broke something. Now the text in the main
content area flows into the right sidebar.

I added a div in the right sidebar trying to fix a problem on my own for IE
and made some minor changes to text in the right sidebar, but not sure what
I did to affect the content area. I didn't purposefully make any changes
there.

I am stuck until I get this fixed.

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/base.html

Link to CSS: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/css/

The template is based on the the 3 column layout on this page
http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins.


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Re: [css-d] Help broke my template

2007-02-04 Thread Diane Ross
On 2/4/07 8:40 PM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think it may be markup rather than css issue. Compare the order in
 which the divisions are closed in Ryan Brill's layout with yours. It is
 a tricky layout-- very easy to get the division closings out of order.
 But validate first (and I think you need a title other than untitled

There is no title since it's my template and I want pages I create ask me
for a title. 

I'll check the div closings. Can you give me a clue as to which one?

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Re: [css-d] right websites content development

2007-01-24 Thread Ross Hulford
The first thing I would do is not to use templates. You are never going to 
learn anything useful that way.

You need to get a decent book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CSS-Anthology-Essential-Tricks-Hacks/dp/0957921888/sr=8-1/qid=1169634670/ref=sr_1_1/203-8491694-5556701?ie=UTF8s=books

I like this book it actually answers questions you need to know. It will be 
hard at the beginning as browsers (IE) can be a bit quirky and you will have 
to learn and anticipate the quirky behaviour.

There's lots to learn and even the CSS gurus don't know everything but after 
about 6 months you should be well on your way to being well versed in the 
art of CSS!

'Quick fixes' like modifying a custom  templates are a good way of making a 
2 day job last a week.


Ross


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Subject: [css-d] right websites content development


 sorry i made a mistake, wrong typing, this is right:(
http://www.findtolinks.com
  http://www.getyydirectory.com
  http://www.search2info.net
  http://www.takeinfo.net
 I have found a free template form the net and applied on my sites. i
 want to develop contexts of sites but i do not know how. videos, news,
 discussion borads and so on. i have open for every suggestions. Thanks.



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Re: [css-d] one-off CSS values

2007-01-23 Thread ross
James,

With one-of css values I too can never decide what is the best approach.

For this example I would use id's to the rows and apply the width elemets in 
the css. It's not perfect but it is (probably) the best way.I do not really 
like class combinations and use id with a class instead. It will stop things 
getting too messy.

Ross












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Subject: [css-d] one-off CSS values


 Hi...
I hope I'm not going to start/rehash an argument, but I'm looking
 for the best practice for one-off css values.

For example, I have a table of data and I want a specific column
 to be 77px wide. I don't really like the style=width: 77px inside a
 td, because I'm not separating the presentation from the display.

So that leaves several options:
 1. The most re-usable would be give it a class - w77px -- and give
 that class the width:77px. That way when I have a div, on another
 page, that I also want to be 75px wide, I can assign that class. I
 can also have a class, maybe -- rtl -- that sets the text direction.
 This way I can do class=w77px rtl or class=w120px rtl. This seems
 the most straightforward, but not correct.

 So that leaves:

 2. A specific class, or a specific selector -- table
 td.stock_price_col -- that I assign the values to.
 3. Assigning to an id that I give that column -- #stock_price_col.

 It seems to me that #1 is the easiest, because I can just start
 assigning a bunch of classes to an element based on what I want it to
 do, but that #2 makes the most sense from the perspective of what CSS
 should be.

 However, it seems that a lot of people use IDs rather than class
 names (div id=footer rather than div class=footer), so I'm
 not really sure (except that id= implies there will never be more
 than one per page)

 Thanks for your thoughts,
 James
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[css-d] adding a class to a link

2007-01-15 Thread Ross Hulford
I am trying to overide the link class with

a class=plain_link href=Request More Information/a

.plain_link a{
border:none;
padding:0;
display:inline;
color:#3300CC;
}


why does this not work?


R.
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Re: [css-d] Centering images

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/13/07 1:19 PM, Mark Lundquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jan 13, 2007, at 1:17 PM, david wrote:
 
 Then the W3C's choice of TEXT-align is a bad choice. It specifies
 text when it's really talking about something broader than what
 people
 think of as text.
 
 I agree :-)
 ‹ml‹

From a newbie standpoint, I agree about the wording. I questioned this and
was unsure, but in GoLive the option to select txt-center style gave an img
as one of the options when an image was selected. When it didn't work, I
entered a fugue state of more newbie confusion.  :-)

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Re: [css-d] Centering images

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/12/07 7:04 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Should be...
 
 .img_center {display: block; margin: 0 auto;}

It's working now. Thank YOU!!
 

 I didn't find a class .img_center in your on-line stylesheet, so I can't
 say why it didn't work. I added one with the styles from my example
 above, and it worked perfectly.

I really appreciate your examples. It helps me tremendously.
 
 I'm having a big problem using hr / in the #main content area.
 After an hr / the text gets thrown way down the screen.
 
 http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/atest/
 
 It's pushed down because you have declared 'clear: both' on the hr.
 That's how 'clear' works in that kind of layout. It will clear
 *everything* in sight - including the side-columns.
 
 You should have a class for 'clear' so you can add it to the hr, or any
 other element, when you need it - not add 'clear' permanently to the hr.
 
 Now, for that particular page/layout you can keep that hr-styling, and
 solve it by adding...
 
 #main {overflow: hidden; margin: 0; }
 * html #main {overflow: visible; height: 1%; }
 * html #sidebar {overflow-x: hidden;}
 
 ...which will isolate all 'clear' inside #main (and correct the most
 troublesome bugs in IE6). Works in all browsers I can lay my eyes on,
 from IE6 and up.

I'm not quite sure if I should remove clear from the hr and add a clear
class if needed or add the corrected css you suggested above. Or do I really
need hr in my style sheet?

Where I get myself into trouble is I use examples from another site (I try
to 'borrow from the best) and I don't know enough to understand all the
attributes they have added to the style.

Is this OK?

.clear-both {
clear: both;
}

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Re: [css-d] Centering images

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/13/07 3:27 PM, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not quite sure if I should remove clear from the hr and add a clear
 class if needed or add the corrected css you suggested above. Or do I really
 need hr in my style sheet?
 
 I don't think you need HR in your HTML unless you want to have a
 horizontal rule there when visitors have CSS turned off. You can use CSS
 to add a bottom border to the element above the rule instead.

I've eliminated the hr for now. You guys are great!!

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Re: [css-d] Centering images

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/13/07 4:52 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since your page...
 http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/atest/
 ...is already broken in IE6, I suggest you add the extra css to the
 bottom of your stylesheet - and both the clearing hr problem and IE6'
 bugs will be gone. You can always remove those few lines later -
 especially if you comment them clearly so you know why you put them
 there and what they are supposed to achieve.

I'll add these. My audience is for Mac users. I'm a one pony show. I have a
FAQ page for a Mac application, Microsoft Entourage. I do realize that many
users search the site at work on their pcs so I do want the site to work in
all browsers.

As an example - I keep these classes in my stylesheets...

Thanks! I'll add these.

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[css-d] Centering images

2007-01-12 Thread Diane Ross
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. When I want to center an image I can only
get it to work if I select div align=center. If I use a class

.txtcenter, .center { text-align: center; }

Or #test img { text-align: center; } the image does not center.

Here is my example:

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/faq/center_images.html

Why are these simple things so hard for a newbie? sigh

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Re: [css-d] Centering images

2007-01-12 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/12/07 3:23 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Note that text-align: center should not be targeting the image.
 Instead: target the container - the div, p or other block-element - and
 text and images /inside/ the container will be centered.
 
 You can also center images directly with auto-margins.
 
 I've added a couple of examples to your test page here...
 http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/test_07_1560.html
 ...so you can see how it works.

OK, now I have another question...

If I don't want all my images to be centered, should I use a class for
centering or a style like your example

 #test2 img {
display: block; margin: 0 auto;
}

The majority of the images on the site will be centered while a few will be
wrapped in a paragraph.

I tried a class, but this did not work.
http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/atest/image_center.html

.img_center {margin: 0 auto;
}


I hate to put a different topic in a thread, but in your example you used:

div {border-bottom: solid 1px #777;}

I'm having a big problem using hr / in the #main content area. After an
hr / the text gets thrown way down the screen. At first I thought it was
erasing the text which made no sense until I scrolled down to see it. I
really don't want to have to make divs every where I want to use a
separation line. 

On this page, the hr / under the A, pushes text down where it does not
under B and C.

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/atest/

div id=abc

h2a id=A name=A/aA/h2

hr /

pa title=AOL Mail with Entourage
href=../accounts/aol.htmlAOL/a/p


My css:
hr {
clear: both;
color: #ccc;
height: 1px;
}
 
 Why are these simple things so hard for a newbie? sigh
 
 Probably so we who are slightly more experienced, can brag about it ;-)

It's humbling, I must say.

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[css-d] Internal style not honored

2007-01-10 Thread Diane Ross
In my external style sheet I have h2 as text-align: center. On one page I
want h2 text-align: left. It is not aligning left. What did I do wrong? I
tried making a div specific h2, but that didn't work either.

I used the same code on both pages but it doesn't work on this page. The
only thing that is different is the problem page was created with a template
in GoLive which shouldn't affect anything.

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index5.html
 
This page using same code is not linked to a template and it works.

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/faq/test2.html


head

!-- InstanceBeginEditable name=headContent --

meta name=keywords content= /

meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /

titleWebsite A-Z Index/title

style type=text/css
!--

@import url(../../web-content/css/layout.css);

@import url(../../web-content/css/sidebar.css);

@import url(../../web-content/css/style.css);

h2 { text-align: left; }

--
/style

 
!-- InstanceEndEditable --

/head

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Re: [css-d] Internal style not honored

2007-01-10 Thread Diane Ross
On 1/10/07 2:06 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Both the validator and my browsers respond with No style sheet found
 since you're importing local CSS files - not online CSS, so there isn't
 much we can do to check what's going on.
 
Apparently I don't understand @import. I used GoLive to set the @import and
assumed it would work when uploaded. Until I get that fixed, the css can be
found here. Centering is in style.

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/css/

 Apart from that: I'd expect the missing style is related to specificity,
 which is something you can check by simply writing...
 h2 { text-align: left!important; }
 ...to make that style more important.

I did have important and removed that to see if that was the problem. I just
uploaded the style.css with change added.

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[css-d] grouping pages

2007-01-05 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a website and each page has a div body id. 

This give me control over the individual pages but is there a way to group 
divs? For example I have a section called about us and it has 4 pages 
associated with it that follow the same layout. I also have a section called 
contact us that has 3 pages (map, contact details etc.) associated with it. Is 
there a way to apply grouping to pages so I can style accoring to body id and 
what group it is in?


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[css-d] div to display on one page only

2007-01-05 Thread Ross Hulford
I have a div that is only to display on one page. I have made it invisible on 
all pages with display:none and added the declaration under it but it doesn't 
appear.

Is there a way to do it without adding style tags to the individual page?


I thought because the declaration

#home #mybox {


}

is under display none it should work. any ideas?


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[css-d] shorthand css

2007-01-03 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,


I have a selector 

#page1 #container-inside, #page2 #container-inside, #page3 #container-inside {

}


is there a way to shorten this to combine the target divs or something?

#page1, #page2,  #page3  #container-inside 
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Re: [css-d] Firefox breaks sidebar

2007-01-02 Thread Diane Ross
Follow up: I found the problem. It was an extra main div showing up in the
sidebar. After removing it, everything works as expected. I swear I did not
put the div there. The change happened after I used GoLive to create a
template area. It had added another main div in the content area and I
caught that one, but the one in the sidebar was missed by me.

I did change the image size, but that did not fix the problem nor did
David's suggestion to the CSS. They did help over all so I appreciate the
changes.

BTW, my messages are taking days to show up on the list. Is anyone else
experiencing this problem?

-- 
Diane 

On 12/31/06 9:22 AM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Diane Ross wrote:
 I made a size change to my right sidebar and now Firefox shows only a part
 of the content. Other Mac browsers are OK with the changes. I have no clue
 as to what to even check. Help is gratefully appreciated.
 
 In IE7, there is no spacing between some of the side boxes.
 
 http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/pages/page3.html
 
 
 I thought my message to the list was lost since it didn't post for two days
 and I received a not able to deliver message so I changed the files I had
 uploaded. I had combined three css files into one named Entourage. Now I'm
 back to three.  :-)  Is there any benefit from one file over multiple css
 files?
 
 On 12/31/06 9:22 AM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ul {padding: 0/* 0 1em 5em*/ } zero out padding on ul
 #footer { clear: both;} added this ruleset
 #left { /*margin-left: 8px; */ }deleted
 #main { /*padding-right: 20px; padding-left: 20px; */}deleted
 Shorten the long-word so it will hold at text-size largest in ie
 from:liDuplicates..remove or create/li
 to:liDuplicates: remove or create/li

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Re: [css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-24 Thread Diane Ross
On 12/22/06 5:14 PM, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know what the footer solution is with that particular layout. If
 you are not far along, and can, or are willing to switch layouts, the 3
 column layout on this page
 http://alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins includes a footer
 across the entire bottom, and the tutorial explains the use of images to
 create faux columns for it.

It took a bit, but I started over with the layout you recommended. I have it
working correctly. I seems to be a simple thing to take a layout and modify
it, but I sure do find ways to mess things up in the process.  :-)

I have only tested in Mac browsers so no telling what will break in IE.

I appreciate your suggestion.

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[css-d] Footer problem with 3 col layout

2006-12-22 Thread Diane Ross
Happy Holidays to everyone.

I'm trying to convert my volunteer site from tables to CSS. I used the
example on http://www.positioniseverything.net/guests/3colcomplexside.html
for my base. The footer for the layout was in the container div, but I want
mine to go across the bottom. I added a clear div that I thought was going
to push it down, but it's not working. I'm a newbie and appreciate any help
you can offer so I can get to the real work of updating the content. GoLive
has mangled the code with extraneous divs. They have multiplied like
bunnies.  :-)  

Not sure if this is part of the same positioning question, but I need all
the columns to be of equal height. I just don't know enough to understand
where the problem is located.

I tried putting the cleardiv2 before and after contents, but the results
were the same.

You can view page (obviously rough) here:

http://www.test.entourage.mvps.org/

--
div id=cleardiv2/div
/div!--this is the end of container--

div id=footer
   footer info goes here
/div
div id=bottom/div
/body


CSS
 #cleardiv2
 {
 clear: both;
 height: 1em;
 }

/**Begin Footer**/
div#footer {
border-top: 2px solid #5C73BA;
text-align: center;
}

Great listI'm learning a lot.

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[css-d] ff only style problem

2006-12-06 Thread Ross Hulford
This is the head of my doc. It is supposed to change the page height based 
on the selection from the menu. It works in IE and validates ok but it is no 
go in firefox. Any ideas?? You can see it in action here...

http://suruchitoo.com/menu.php


!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 /
titleSuruchiToo - Menu/title
link href=suruchi.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

?php


$select = isset($_REQUEST['select']) ? $_REQUEST['select'] : '';

switch ($select) {
case starters:
  $selection = starters.php;

   break;
case mains:
   $selection = mains.php;
   ?style type=text/css#side, #main, #holder, {height:  1400px;} 
#menu_insert {height:950px;}/style?
   break;


case veg:
   $selection = veg.php;
 ??
   break;

case rice:
   $selection = rice.php;
 ?style type=text/css#side, #main, #holder, {height:  1000px;} 
#menu_insert {height:950px;}/style?
   break;
case drinks:
   $selection = drinks.php;
 ?style type=text/css#side, #main, #holder, {height:  1600px;} 
#menu_insert {height:950px;}/style?

   break;
default:
 $selection = starters.php;
   ?style type=text/css#side, #main, #holder, {height:  1400px;} 
#menu_insert {height:950px;}/style?
  break;

 }

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[css-d] frames and anchors a css alternative

2006-12-06 Thread Ross Hulford
http://legalss.co.uk/newsite/services.phps

http://legalss.co.uk/newsite/services.php


When I click the menu item on the left I want it to jump to the correct part of 
the text, however the full page jumps up. Can I use anchors with div ids so 
only the text skips to the anchor point?

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[css-d] expanding divs - FF

2006-12-04 Thread Ross Hulford

On the link below the inside containers (pink bordered divs) should push the 
main #container (green border) down when the inside contents expands

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/nss/about_us/whoweare.php

I have tried ems, which works however it makes the #container too big every 
time cntrl+ is pressed . The divs use min-height so should in theory this 
should work in FF, if you look at in IE7 it behaves the way it should. 

You can look at the css here (css_common.css)


Ta,


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[css-d] selecting all divs

2006-11-26 Thread Ross Hulford
What is the selector for all divs?


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[css-d] text in the box

2006-11-16 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,


This page is a work-in-progess however I am trying to make the text stay inside 
the div butttons when the text size is increased (firefox). I tried 
word-wrap:break-word; but this does not work.

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test.php

http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/test/bf.css


I do not really want the boxes to expand with min-width or make the text  
graphics. Any ideas?


R.






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Re: [css-d] IE6 vs IE7

2006-11-06 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi Ian,

Have been deleloping using ie7 for a few weeks now and will have to say it 
is much better. Really frustrating things like png alpha transparency are 
now working whcih although not stricly a css issue does cause problems. A 
nice feature is the full sceen zoom (which opera has had for a while now), 
this will effect the text size/page break issues and will probably allow 
accessible sites to be more design rich as you will not have to stick to the 
old two column layout for it to be bulletproof.

There are however a few things that do not appear to be resolved and maybe 
someone could confirm this


- double margin float
- min-width/max-width


Ross


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[css-d] (no subject)

2006-11-05 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

I have some buttons, but when the text  is increased it escapes from the div. 
Is there any way to force text wrapping?

.rollover a {
display:block;
width: 80px;
height:80px;
word-wrap:break-word;
color:#333;
background: url(../images/home.png) 0 0 no-repeat;
text-decoration: none;
float:left;


}
.rollover a:hover { 
background-position: -97px 0px;
color: #049;

}
.rollover a:active {
background-position: 0 -70px;
color:#fff;
}


the html


  div class=rollover

a href=#home/a
a href=#news/a
a href=#solutions/a
a href=#/a
/div


/div
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[css-d] png background not showing in firefox

2006-11-04 Thread Ross Hulford
works fine in IE7. 

#right {
background-image:url(../images/middle.png);
width: 510px;
position:absolute;
height:350px;
top:160px;
left:436px;
border:#006699 1px solid;
}
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[css-d] ie and firefox problem

2006-10-30 Thread Ross Hulford
I  have a header div #header is relatively positioned. Inside this is an 
absolutely positioned #menu_holder div that holds a suckerfish menu. The 
problem i when I use top:80px; on the menu holder it is perfect in both IE 
version and too low in FF. when I change it to 60px FF is the one that is 
perfect
 
As you can see from the example #menu_holder (the pink div) ie has the menu 
sitting in the middle where  FF pushes it down a bit.


http://www.blue-fly.co.uk/trisco/example.png
 
This is the css
 
#menu_holder {
width: 850px;
position:relative;
height: 20px;
float:left;
background-color:#99;
z-index:1000;
 
top: 80px;
left:0em;
padding:0;
margin:0;


}

 
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[css-d] declarations and embedded items

2006-10-27 Thread Ross Hulford
 I have this.


div id=header
 
div id=holder

ul id=mylist
li item 1/li 
li item2/li

ul

/div

/div



what is the correct way to change the ul properties without effecting other 
properties.

#header #holder #nav {
}


#header #holder #nav.ul {
}


 #nav.ul {
}

 #nav ul {
}


and what (if any). Is the difference between #nav.li and #nav li ?


thanks,


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[css-d] IE6 and 7 vs Firefox and absolute poisitoning error

2006-10-27 Thread Ross Hulford
Hi,

I have a header div #header is relatively positioned. Inside this is an 
absolutely positioned #menu_holder div that holds a suckerfish menu. The 
problem i when I use top:80px; on the menu holder it is perfect in both IE 
version and too low in FF. when I change it to 60px FF is the one that is 
perfect

The thing that seems may  difference is the way they react to a searchbox in 
the header...


table width=198 border=0 style=position:absolute; top:0px; right:0px;
  tr
td height=27div align=leftsearch this site for /div/td
tdnbsp;/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=149div align=right
  input name= type=text /
/div/td
td width=33input name=GO type=button value=GO //td
  /tr
/table


I have taken this out altogther and nothing moves so maybe not! Is there an 
absolute issue with FF or IE?


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