Re: [css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-16 Thread Rachael Beale
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:
Page: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/monitoring-simple.htm
CSS: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/css/layout-stripped.css
It seems like
 you should be able to remove the top margin on #centrecontent, give it
 1px of top padding, then give .trail the appropriate amount of top
 margin to push it down from the navigation bar.

I thought so too, but sadly not :-( - thank you for the suggestion,
though, it was worth a shot.

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 It isn't obvious at all what's going on in there :-)
 Had to make several attempts before cracking it.

Glad it's not just me :-) Sometimes working with these sorts of things
can make me feel SO stupid

 Finally I added a clearing-element, and everything fell into place...

 /ul/div
 br style=clear: both; /
 div class=left_menu

 Then I added 'padding-top: 1px;' to #centrecontent, and it worked as
 expected because of the clearing-element. You can now adjust
 'margin-top' on #centrecontent, and get the same result in all browsers.

That's fantastic - thank you so much! I think I need to read up a bit
more on effective clearing.

Thanks also to Donna for additional suggestion - I'm going with
Georg's suggestion since it means I don't have to use a hack or CC to
get round IE :-)

Cheers,

Rachael
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[css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Rachael Beale
Hello,

I'm not sure if I didn't get any replies previously because the
solution is really obvious to everyone else... but it's certainly not
obvious to me, and I am being badgered to hand over this template!
I've Googled and searched the Wiki and am no closer to understanding
what the problem is. Can anyone help me?

Page: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/monitoring-simple.htm
CSS: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/css/layout-stripped.css

In IE6, the top margin of #centrecontent appears to be measured from
the bottom of the navigation div, which means there is a large white
gap between the bottom of the navigation and the breadcrumbs. In
Firefox/Opera/Safari, the margin is apparently being measured from the
top of the #page div.

I thought this might be the collapsing margins issue, but applying
borders and padding to everything I could think of seemed to make no
difference.

What am I missing here??

(Am aware of the messy left nav in IE6 also, but haven't yet had a go
at fixing that one myself so won't trouble the rest of you with it).

Many thanks,

Rachael
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Re: [css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Rachael Beale wrote:

Page: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/monitoring-simple.htm
CSS: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/css/layout-stripped.css

In IE6, the top margin of #centrecontent appears to be measured from
the bottom of the navigation div, which means there is a large white
gap between the bottom of the navigation and the breadcrumbs. In
Firefox/Opera/Safari, the margin is apparently being measured from the
top of the #page div.

I thought this might be the collapsing margins issue, but applying
borders and padding to everything I could think of seemed to make no
difference.

What am I missing here??
  


It seems like a margin collapsing issue to me too.  Unfortunately, I'm 
about to run out the door, so I can't dig into right now.  It seems like 
you should be able to remove the top margin on #centrecontent, give it 
1px of top padding, then give .trail the appropriate amount of top 
margin to push it down from the navigation bar.

Zoe

-- 
Zoe M. Gillenwater
Design Services Manager
UNC Highway Safety Research Center
http://www.hsrc.unc.edu

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Re: [css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rachael Beale wrote:
 I'm not sure if I didn't get any replies previously because the 
 solution is really obvious to everyone else... but it's certainly not
  obvious to me, and I am being badgered to hand over this template! 
 I've Googled and searched the Wiki and am no closer to understanding
  what the problem is. Can anyone help me?
 
 Page: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/monitoring-simple.htm

It isn't obvious at all what's going on in there :-)
Had to make several attempts before cracking it.

It is a margin-collapse of sort. It can be seen clearly if borders are
put on those elements, but as you have already found out; that doesn't
solve it, and I didn't find any element to put the fix on either.

Finally I added a clearing-element, and everything fell into place...

/ul/div
br style=clear: both; /
div class=left_menu

Then I added 'padding-top: 1px;' to #centrecontent, and it worked as
expected because of the clearing-element. You can now adjust
'margin-top' on #centrecontent, and get the same result in all browsers.

I'm still not sure if this is the best solution, but at least it's a
stable one.

regards
Georg
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