Re: [css-d] Can somebody explain IE quirks mode?

2006-10-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David O'Neill wrote:
> [...] a few of the examples I have looked at the code refers to IE
> and "quirks mode". Can somebody explain what this means and does it 
> affect positioning in Firefox?

It's a fair question, and here's a pretty good explanation...


XHTML 1.0, with a proper 'doctype declaration' on top and served as
'text/html', will trigger 'standard mode' in Firefox, Opera etc.
IE6' mode depends on whether an 'XML declaration' is present above the
'doctype declaration' - or not...


Firefox 'positioning' isn't affected at all in this scenario.


> [...] I have been looking into fixed header and footer positioning 
> with the aim of creating a 3 column layout[...]

This article...

...describes a solution where IE6' mode doesn't really matter all that
much, because it uses a mode-independent workaround (IE-expression) for
IE-win.

You're left with some coding-decisions when it comes to other
mode-dependent differences though, which is one reason why I most often
runs IE6 in 'quirks mode' and design for a 'mode-independent box'...


regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Can somebody explain IE quirks mode?

2006-10-07 Thread Jim Nannery
Morning David

You wrote;

> Hey one and all, forgive me if I sound ignorant or even stupid, but I
> have been looking into fixed header and footer positioning with the aim
> of creating a 3 column layout with needless to say fixed headers and
> footers and in a few of the examples I have looked at the code refers to
> IE and "quirks mode". Can somebody explain what this means and does it
> affect positioning in Firefox?
>

Here are a few links that should explain the differences between Quirks Mode 
and Standards Mode and how different browsers handle them.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirks_mode
[2] 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp
[3] http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/
[4] http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla's_DOCTYPE_sniffing

and saving the best for last

[5] http://gutfeldt.ch/matthias/articles/doctypeswitch.html

hth

Jim Nannery
www.redfernenterprises.com 


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Re: [css-d] Can somebody explain IE quirks mode?

2006-10-07 Thread Rick den Haan
David O'Neill wrote:
>  Can somebody explain what ["quirks mode"] means
>  and does it affect positioning in Firefox?

David,

Take a look at the following[1] page. It had enough information to 
explain it to me.

HTH,
Rick.

[1]: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html
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[css-d] Can somebody explain IE quirks mode?

2006-10-07 Thread David O'Neill
Hey one and all, forgive me if I sound ignorant or even stupid, but I 
have been looking into fixed header and footer positioning with the aim 
of creating a 3 column layout with needless to say fixed headers and 
footers and in a few of the examples I have looked at the code refers to 
IE and "quirks mode". Can somebody explain what this means and does it 
affect positioning in Firefox?

Thanks a million in advance,
David
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