[css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to target all PC/Windows machines. How can this be done? Thanks __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Brett wrote: Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to target all PC/Windows machines. How can this be done? In what PC operating system and in what PC browsers and browser versions is the text larger than on a Mac? -- A thin red line and a salmon-color ampersand forthcoming. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
For example, Win2000 in IE6 and FF2.0, both browsers display the text much larger. David Laakso wrote: Brett wrote: Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to target all PC/Windows machines. How can this be done? In what PC operating system and in what PC browsers and browser versions is the text larger than on a Mac? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Brett wrote: Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to target all PC/Windows machines. How can this be done? Not at all in CSS, and although you can detect environment (OS, screen-resolution etc) through scripting and inject different base-font based on that, there's really no way or method you can use to control, or enforce, font-size at the user-end on any OS and/or browser. You'll also have a large range to cover, as PCs come with a whole range of OSes and screen-resolutions and a wide range of browsers. Not all combinations are transparent enough to be detected correctly, so you'll probably get it wrong more often than right. FWIW: the leading underscore only works in IE6 and older, and if users of those browsers don't like the result they can simply make their browser ignore all your font-sizing attempts. Other browsers have somewhat similar defenses against enforced font-sizes. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Brett wrote: For example, Win2000 in IE6 and FF2.0, both browsers display the text much larger. In what PC operating system and in what PC browsers and browser versions is the text larger than on a Mac? Is IE/6 set at default (text--size medium) and Firefox/2.0 set at default (font-size 16px)? -- A thin red line and a salmon-color ampersand forthcoming. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Georg, Thanks. Of course you are right, there are way too many variables to make every OS and every browser look exactly the same, and it's a fools dream to attempt it. I really just want to have the text size a bit closer between the two platforms. I design on a MAC and I try to set text sizes suitable for a normal text setting on the PC, and to accommodate up to two increases in text size without drastically altering the layout. I guess this is just another joy of designing for the web. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
David, Yes, both of the browsers are set to display the normal text size. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Brett wrote: David, Yes, both of the browsers are set to display the normal text size. Then I suppose the good news is it is highly unlikely any user will be running around with a pixel ruler comparing the page's font sizes among operating systems or even among browsers on the same operating system. -- A thin red line and a salmon-color ampersand forthcoming. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows
Brett wrote: Georg, Thanks. Of course you are right, there are way too many variables to make every OS and every browser look exactly the same, and it's a fools dream to attempt it. I really just want to have the text size a bit closer between the two platforms. Make sure your PC and your Mac have same-size screens set with same resolution - and that your browsers are set identically, and you shouldn't be far off. Oh, and decide whether you want to count screen-pixels or visible size. I haven't noticed more than */+ 1 screen-pixel deviation in font-size when same document is evaluated in same browser across my PCs and my Mac. Depends somewhat on how you declare your font-sizes and other variables though, as not all methods work equally well across the entire range. I design on a MAC and I try to set text sizes suitable for a normal text setting on the PC, and to accommodate up to two increases in text size without drastically altering the layout. Last time I looked the VCAG advised to allow for at least up to 200% font-resizing above normal at the user-end - without creating problems for end-users. IMO: designs that can't take that much are not designed for the web, but there are plenty of them around. I guess this is just another joy of designing for the web. Yes, and if you want same size - same look everywhere it'll only get worse as new software/hardware combinations arrive on the market. I'm looking forward to having more of these variables, but I know that's not too common an attitude. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
