Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design

2015-02-15 Thread Georg

Den 15.02.2015 16:41, skrev Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh:

As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering
how much longer media queries can be useful.  Phones will soon have the
same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by
physical comparison.


Increasing resolution does in itself not create any real problems. We 
all want sharper and more detailed images, regardless of their size, and 
as viewing-distance vary with screen/window size we can pretty much 
deliver what the end-users want/need by targeting both their actual 
resolution and screen/window size. Media Queries don't have to play but 
a small role here, for which they in my opinion are quite adequate in 
their present form.



Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, heading for a high
speed crash? Or do I misunderstand how this works?


Media Queries are incomplete for optimal control, but when applied 
well - for instance by not locking everything down to the same units - 
it isn't all that hard to keep it all together and deliver our designs 
across the resolution/size landscape - now and well into the future.



If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the
ultimate solution?


There will always arrive new solutions. Some may be seen as 
improvements, and may actually work well in a number of cases.
As long as CSS gets improved upon to solve real-world cases, CSS will be 
used by most as the base for delivering designs.


I do not see any ultimate solutions - with or without CSS - in the 
near future that will cover all cases to perfection,  and so far I 
haven't found the need for one either... :-)


regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design

2015-02-15 Thread Tom Livingston
I disagree. In my own area of development things are only getting more
complicated. Will MQs evolve and become more complex? Yes. May other means
of accomplishing the same thing come to pass? Wouldn't surprise me. Will
pages be nothing but single-columns of text broken occasionally by an svg
image? Hardly.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:59 PM Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh composed on 2015-02-15 14:41 (UTC-0700):

  As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself
 wondering
  how much longer media queries can be useful.  Phones will soon have the
  same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by
  physical comparison.

  Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system,

 Yes.

  heading for a high speed

 .

  crash?

 Yes

  Or do I misunderstand how this works?

 Media queries are a band-aid solution to an artificial and needless
 problem.

  If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the
  ultimate solution?

 Most of the technology has long been in place, in the form of relative
 units.
 Their primary shortcoming is WRT background images. There is usually no
 compulsion to use background images, making that shortcoming rather
 inconsequential.

 IOW, divorce your mind from the existence of px units for all screen media
 use other than bitmap images, and you get automatic adaptation to display
 density, rather like life before CSS1 arrived.
 --
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 words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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[css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design

2015-02-15 Thread Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh
As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering
how much longer media queries can be useful.  Phones will soon have the
same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by
physical comparison.

Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system, heading for a high
speed crash? Or do I misunderstand how this works?

If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the
ultimate solution?



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Re: [css-d] Future of CSS and media queries for responsive design

2015-02-15 Thread Felix Miata
Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh composed on 2015-02-15 14:41 (UTC-0700):

 As the resolution of cell phones rapidly escalates I find myself wondering
 how much longer media queries can be useful.  Phones will soon have the
 same nominal resolution as desktop monitors, and yet still be tiny by
 physical comparison.

 Aren't media queries, as they now are a flawed system,

Yes.

 heading for a high speed

.

 crash?

Yes

 Or do I misunderstand how this works?

Media queries are a band-aid solution to an artificial and needless problem.

 If so--if a technology change is indeed looming--will CSS be part of the
 ultimate solution?

Most of the technology has long been in place, in the form of relative units.
Their primary shortcoming is WRT background images. There is usually no
compulsion to use background images, making that shortcoming rather
inconsequential.

IOW, divorce your mind from the existence of px units for all screen media
use other than bitmap images, and you get automatic adaptation to display
density, rather like life before CSS1 arrived.
-- 
The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/
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