[css-d] IE 5.0
Hi Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Thanks -- Regards Terry O'Leary Web Developer @ The Elektron Group ~Online dating community ? www.d8-m8.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
On 14/08/06, Terry O'Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Thanks -- Regards Depends on your audience. Generically, I still allow for it because it is still used, but its usage is minimal so I guess it's a judgement call. -- http://www.web-buddha.co.uk http://www.projectkarma.co.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
BrowserCam now has VCN access where you can log into the servers and test things like JavaScript. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Goodchild Sent: 14 August 2006 11:01 To: Terry O'Leary Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] IE 5.0 On 14/08/06, Terry O'Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Thanks -- Regards Depends on your audience. Generically, I still allow for it because it is still used, but its usage is minimal so I guess it's a judgement call. -- http://www.web-buddha.co.uk http://www.projectkarma.co.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
this feature seems to be a pay for feature, was looking for a free solution at the present, thanks. On 8/14/06, Tew, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BrowserCam now has VCN access where you can log into the servers and test things like JavaScript. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Goodchild Sent: 14 August 2006 11:01 To: Terry O'Leary Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] IE 5.0 On 14/08/06, Terry O'Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Thanks -- Regards Depends on your audience. Generically, I still allow for it because it is still used, but its usage is minimal so I guess it's a judgement call. -- http://www.web-buddha.co.uk http://www.projectkarma.co.uk __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ -- Regards Terry O'Leary Web Developer @ The Elektron Group ~Online dating community ? www.d8-m8.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
From: Terry O'Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site It's your own choice, but it's generally not too difficult to make the adjustments necessary to support this browser (assuming IE5/Win is what you're talking about). does anyone know a site apart from browsercam Again, assuming IE5/Win, how about your own site/computer? http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone http://www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html ~holly __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
Terry O'Leary wrote: Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) Dunno. and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... If you are on a PC, you can download ie 5 and 5.5 from http://evolt.org/ or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 I do not have 5.0 at the moment. Here are 2 screen shots in 5.5 on xp http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/security1.jpg http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/security2.bmp and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html And here are ie captures from browsercam (win/2000 and xp) http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=276699 And a screen shot in Opera9.01(xp) http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/images/security.jpg (I default to fuchsia in Opera) Thanks Regards, ~dL __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
Terry - and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot Why don't you download the standalones? That's what I use for IE5. You can get the standalone versions from evolt, and there's a tutorial on making them work at positioniseverything.net Works great. And it's free. ~Shelly __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
Thanks for every1 who answered my query earlier, I've now decided on the best solution to take this forward. Thanks. Terry. On 8/14/06, Shelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry - and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot Why don't you download the standalones? That's what I use for IE5. You can get the standalone versions from evolt, and there's a tutorial on making them work at positioniseverything.net Works great. And it's free. ~Shelly -- Regards Terry O'Leary Web Developer @ The Elektron Group ~Online dating community ? www.d8-m8.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
From: Terry O'Leary ...does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where I could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Terry, get the free VMware Player or Microsoft Virtual PC and install an old version of Windows in a virtual machine. Then you will be able to test any older Windows browsers with no hassles. You can set up any number of virtual machines (clone the first one to make it easier) with different configurations. This will also let you test Firefox 1.0.7 and the like. -Mike __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE 5.0
On Aug 14, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Dave Goodchild wrote: On 14/08/06, Terry O'Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Two things to ask today (thanks to people who answered my li:hover query) , what are peoples opinion on IE 5.0 and the need to consider its lack of CSS support during designing a site (i.e should i not be considered now as its kind of obsolete?) and does anyone know a site apart from browsercam where i could test the site as i have problems with rollovers i need to be able to interact with the page not just view a screen shot... or do one of you have access to IE 5.0 and can you tell me / screen shot the rollover actions on the menu at www.bulgin.co.uk/HTMLDocs/test.html Thanks -- Regards Depends on your audience. Generically, I still allow for it because it is still used, but its usage is minimal so I guess it's a judgement call. Look at your stats. I took the opportunity to look at mine and see that all flavors of IE 5.x account for less than 0.4% of my traffic. All flavors of Netscape combined is about 0.6%. Firefox is about 5.5% and Safari is about 2.8%. Thats just me, YMWV. So for me, 5.0 browsers are a pretty insignificant minority and so I am not too worried about them. That being said, I do make sure that the site is functional in all those... meaning I don't have anything that prevents anyone in a 5.x browser from using the site, but I don't worry that much about the details. -- Kevin Murphy Webmaster: Information and Marketing Services Western Nevada Community College www.wncc.edu 775-445-3326 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 5.0 Windows problem
I'm using sliding doors method for the global navigation in a site
header and the links are not clickable in Windows IE 5.0. Does anyone
have ideas or suggestions as to why this would happen?
http://winningconnections.com/
http://winningconnections.com/css/wc-layout.css
The offending bit of CSS is below.
Thanks for any insight,
Michael
/* =Nav
--- */
#header #nav1 {
position: relative;
left: 0;
top: 0;
width: 770px;
height: 27px;
}
#header #nav1 #menu1 {
width: 770px;
height: 27px;
background: transparent url(../img/header-nav.png) top left no-
repeat;
position: relative;
padding:0;
margin:0;
}
#header #nav1 #menu1 li {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style: none;
position: absolute;
top: 0;
}
#header #nav1 #menu1 li, #header #nav1 #menu1 li a {
height: 27px;
display: block;
border: none !important;
}
#header #nav1 #menu1 li a {
text-indent: -px;
text-decoration: none;
}
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[css-d] IE 5.0 PC - what should I be looking at?
I have a menu that (I think) works everywhere except IE 5.0 PC http://www.iraqproject.org http://www.iraqproject.org/base.css I asked already about this and didn't get an answer - so I'm rephrasing - what kinds of things might IE 5 PC do differently than every other browser? Thanks, Christy __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE 5.0 and 5.5 hacks
Hi guys, I have come up against my first ie5 nightmares, do any of you know
some good sites that explain the various hacks in plain English? I know a
few already, like the body {text-align:center;} one for 5.5, but really I
need to know more. From what I understand after reading some articles by
Eric, if you use divs with no borders, margins or padding, and apply the
styling to the contents, you should get round most of the problems?
Cheers for your help, and any good links!
anthony
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Re: [css-d] IE 5.0 and 5.5 hacks
anthony croshaw wrote:
Hi guys, I have come up against my first ie5 nightmares, do any of
you know some good sites that explain the various hacks in plain
English? I know a few already, like the body {text-align:center;} one
for 5.5, but really I need to know more. From what I understand after
reading some articles by Eric, if you use divs with no borders,
margins or padding, and apply the styling to the contents, you should
get round most of the problems?
That'll get you around the MS-box vs. the W3C-box problems - to a degree.
For some more insight:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html
http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/
My simplest hack is to keep IE6 in quirks mode, as it doesn't have a
real standard mode anyway. Then I give IE/win an MS-box and all other
browsers a W3C-box - before I start killing IE/win bugs in a
'conditional commented' stylesheet:
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item2
(plain Norwenglish, with a lot of extra links and stuff)
regards
Georg
--
http://www.gunlaug.no
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