Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-06 Thread Tim Dawson
Tim Dawson wrote:
> Ingo Chao wrote:
>> Tim Dawson wrote:
>>> ...
 See IE/6 duplicate char bug-- 
 
>>>
>>> Thank you.  That looks promising; I've had a quick look, but need to go
>>> back.  I habitually use a comment when I close a division, as: 
>>>   So that's going to get me into lots of trouble.
>>
>> Not necessarily, because the problem shows up on - 2 html-comments 
>> (mostly) -
>> near hidden-inputs - near display:none-elements - in tight float settings
>> with or without html-comments
>>
>>> I note the article says the problem is fixed in IE7, so if I'm seeing it
>>> there too it must be something else.  I thought I'd fixed it, by 
>>> updating a
>>> file, but it's still there on some pages, so I'm working on it.
>>
>> what page?
>>
> Well it WAS happening on
> http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-central-mull.php but I've 
> increased the space at the bottom of each item and it has gone away.  At 
> this point I'm unsure exactly whether it was margin or padding I 
> changed, but it did the trick.  To find out which, I'll have to see if I 
> can reverse it.
> 
Thanks to everyone who helped.  Removing the comments after div closures has 
solved the problem in IE6.  I haven't been able to produce it again in IE7, but 
I certainly wasn't imagining it.  Now that the comments are gone I doubt if 
I'll 
see it no matter what I try.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Tim Dawson
Ingo Chao wrote:
> Tim Dawson wrote:
>> ...
>>> See IE/6 duplicate char bug-- 
>>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.  That looks promising; I've had a quick look, but need to go
>> back.  I habitually use a comment when I close a division, as:   So that's going to get me into lots of trouble.
> 
> Not necessarily, because the problem shows up on - 2 html-comments (mostly) -
> near hidden-inputs - near display:none-elements - in tight float settings
> with or without html-comments
> 
>> I note the article says the problem is fixed in IE7, so if I'm seeing it
>> there too it must be something else.  I thought I'd fixed it, by updating a
>> file, but it's still there on some pages, so I'm working on it.
> 
> what page?
> 
Well it WAS happening on
http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-central-mull.php but I've increased 
the space at the bottom of each item and it has gone away.  At this point I'm 
unsure exactly whether it was margin or padding I changed, but it did the 
trick. 
  To find out which, I'll have to see if I can reverse it.

Tim

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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Tim Dawson
Mark Senff wrote:
> --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Tim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text
>> twice.  The page advertises eight B&B properties, each in 
>> identical format.   Underneath the last entry, the last
>> part of the last line is getting repeated at the top of
>> the footer (on the left).
> 
> It's IE6's "duplicate characters" bug -- it can happen to the last of a 
> series of DIVs that are floated left combined with comment-tags in your 
> source code (see 
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html for details).
> 
> All you need to do to fix it, is add the property "display:inline" to your 
> div "item" (line 21 in the source).
> 
Thanks, I'll make that change.
I'm also seeing the same problem in IE7: 
http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-central-mull.php

But NOT http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-tobermory.php

Which is curious because both pages call the same CSS (so that would also rule 
out a caching problem, I think).  However, the Tobermory page has more space at 
the bottom of each item, so there clearly is a difference somewhere !

Tim
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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Tim Dawson wrote:
> ...
>> See IE/6 duplicate char bug--
>> 
> 
> Thank you.  That looks promising; I've had a quick look, but need to go back. 
>  I 
> habitually use a comment when I close a division, as:   So that's going to get me into lots of trouble.

Not necessarily, because the problem shows up on
- 2 html-comments (mostly)
- near hidden-inputs
- near display:none-elements
- in tight float settings with or without html-comments

> I note the article says the problem is fixed in IE7, so if I'm seeing it 
> there 
> too it must be something else.  I thought I'd fixed it, by updating a file, 
> but 
> it's still there on some pages, so I'm working on it.

what page?

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Tim Dawson
David Laakso wrote:
> Tim Dawson wrote:
>> Tim Dawson wrote:
>>  
>>> I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text twice.  The 
>>> page
>>> advertises eight B&B properties, each in identical format.   
>>> Underneath the last
>>> entry, the last part of the last line is getting repeated at the
>>> top of the footer (on the left).
>>>
>>> There's no problem in FF3 or IE7, the HTML and CSS validate, I've 
>>> looked at 'View Source' (in notepad) and there's no extra text there.
>>> 
>>
>> I spoke too soon, I've seen it in IE7 now (previously hidden owing to 
>> colour selection)
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>   

> Only see it in IE/6.0 on this end (color disabled for the blind).
> See IE/6 duplicate char bug--
> 

Thank you.  That looks promising; I've had a quick look, but need to go back.  
I 
habitually use a comment when I close a division, as:   So that's going to get me into lots of trouble.

I note the article says the problem is fixed in IE7, so if I'm seeing it there 
too it must be something else.  I thought I'd fixed it, by updating a file, but 
it's still there on some pages, so I'm working on it.

Tim
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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread David Laakso
Tim Dawson wrote:
> Tim Dawson wrote:
>   
>> I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text twice.  The page
>> advertises eight B&B properties, each in identical format.   Underneath the 
>> last
>> entry, the last part of the last line is getting repeated at the
>> top of the footer (on the left).
>>
>> There's no problem in FF3 or IE7, the HTML and CSS validate, I've looked at 
>> 'View Source' (in notepad) and there's no extra text there.
>> 
>
> I spoke too soon, I've seen it in IE7 now (previously hidden owing to colour 
> selection)
>
> Tim
>
>   


Only see it in IE/6.0 on this end (color disabled for the blind).
See IE/6 duplicate char bug--



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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Mark Senff
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Tim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text
> twice.  The page advertises eight B&B properties, each in 
> identical format.   Underneath the last entry, the last
> part of the last line is getting repeated at the top of
> the footer (on the left).

It's IE6's "duplicate characters" bug -- it can happen to the last of a series 
of DIVs that are floated left combined with comment-tags in your source code 
(see http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html for 
details).

All you need to do to fix it, is add the property "display:inline" to your div 
"item" (line 21 in the source).



  
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Re: [css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Tim Dawson
Tim Dawson wrote:
> I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text twice.  The page
> advertises eight B&B properties, each in identical format.   Underneath the 
> last
> entry, the last part of the last line is getting repeated at the
> top of the footer (on the left).
> 
> There's no problem in FF3 or IE7, the HTML and CSS validate, I've looked at 
> 'View Source' (in notepad) and there's no extra text there.

I spoke too soon, I've seen it in IE7 now (previously hidden owing to colour 
selection)

Tim

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[css-d] IE6 displaying some text twice

2008-10-05 Thread Tim Dawson
I have a problem with IE6 displaying (part of) some text twice.  The page
advertises eight B&B properties, each in identical format.   Underneath the last
entry, the last part of the last line is getting repeated at the
top of the footer (on the left).

There's no problem in FF3 or IE7, the HTML and CSS validate, I've looked at 
'View Source' (in notepad) and there's no extra text there.

http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-central-mull0.php

I thought it might be overflow (there's a hack in the CSS using overflow), so I
have made the div backgrounds transparent and outlined them black, for clarity.
No sign of repeated text on any but the last entry.

I've tried adding some extra text, and find that only the last eight characters 
show ('y with us').  If I remove the words 'with us' then 'and stay' gets 
repeated.  I think that would rule out an overflow effect ?

It's not something peculiar to the CSS or content of the last div itself:
http://www.holidaymullandiona.co.uk/accn/bb-central-mull.php shows the same
page, but with the order of divs randomised.  The extra text is shown no matter
which entry is last (different words, of course).  (The order will change if 
you 
refresh after 4 mins, or turn cookies off).

Can anyone help with this one, please ?  I'm resigned to the fact that it's 
probably something trivial I've overlooked.

Tim

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