Re: [css-d] IE7 a la Dean Edwards

2007-05-17 Thread Brian Crescimanno
On 5/17/07, Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uh... Deans' IE7 is just a bit of Javascript (or Jscript) that is
> loaded together with the page - ok, more than a 'bit'. No need for
> the user to install add-ons.

Ahh, my mistake.  I was under the impression that that this was some
type of hack to be installed for IE.

Brian
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Re: [css-d] IE7 a la Dean Edwards

2007-05-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On May 17, 2007, at 9:30 PM, Brian Crescimanno wrote:

> The main issue with something like this is it will harm; not hurt,
> your testing environment.  Installed on your machine, you will get
> this "more standards compliant" version of IE.  However, I would
> imagine you have to work with the assumption that 99% of IE users
> would not have this addon installed--and thus, your copy of IE would
> be useless for testing.

Uh... Deans' IE7 is just a bit of Javascript (or Jscript) that is  
loaded together with the page - ok, more than a 'bit'. No need for  
the user to install add-ons.

That said, I've only used part of it to get IE 6 to collaborate for  
one project, and never needed/had to test against IE 7, the real one.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] IE7 a la Dean Edwards

2007-05-17 Thread Brian Crescimanno
The main issue with something like this is it will harm; not hurt,
your testing environment.  Installed on your machine, you will get
this "more standards compliant" version of IE.  However, I would
imagine you have to work with the assumption that 99% of IE users
would not have this addon installed--and thus, your copy of IE would
be useless for testing.

As to the validity of the project itself--I can't speak on it because
I've never tried it.

Brian
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[css-d] IE7 a la Dean Edwards

2007-05-17 Thread Doug Jolley
A couple of days ago I ran across http://dean.edwards.name/IE7 and thought I
had found the Holy Grail.  The mere thought of being able to bring IE even
into near compliance with CSS standards excites me no end.  But the more I
read the less I understood.  I think it is clear that Dean Edwards IE7
(hereafter DEIE7) is pointed at conforming IE5 and IE6 (hence the name).
During 2006 this seemed to be a fairly active on-going project.  One post
that I read even indicated that Dean had trademarked 'IE7'.  However, when
MS released their version of IE7 (hereafter MSIE7) it appears that interest
in DEIE7 seemed to completely vanish overnight.  We know that MSIE7 failed
to address many of the CSS issues that it should have.  However, the release
of MSIE7 could have morphed them.  I would have thought that Dean would have
quickly made an assessment and re-released DEIE7 with a new name and tweaked
to work with MSIE7.  It appears that that didn't happen.  What's more
surprising is that I can't seem to find any mention from Dean or anyone else
as to how DEIE7 can be used with MSIE7 if at all.  I've tried it and it does
seem to fix a lot of problems; but, I'm real nervous about going down that
path because there seems to be no commentary on the Net about it.

So, that brings me to my question which is:  Does anyone know what's going
on with DEIE7 and whether or not it's usable with MSIE7?  If it is so
usable, are there any caveats that I should know about?

Thanks for any input.

   ... doug
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