Re: [css-d] Is a forum a tabular data?
On 12/28/06, Richard Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The very mention that you have multiple headings for organized data gives you your answer. It requires a table heading. Therefore, it's a table. Don't fear it. :) Yes, you're right, the main forum is definatly a table. And what of the threads themselves? Two columns, no real headings or complex data, that part of the forum is crying out to be an ol to me, and I'm imagining the markup to be something like this: ol li div class=sidebar strong a href=#username/a /strong img src=avatar_location.jpg width=100px height=100px alt=username#8217;s avatar / dl dtLocation:/dt ddNSW, Australia/dd /dl /div div class=main p class=date12:23 PM, 28 December 2006/p div class=post !-- post goes here -- /div div class=signature !-- signature goes here -- /div /div /li /ol I think this markup is fairly appropriate, any thoughts? -- Australian Web Designer – www.blakehaswell.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Is a forum a tabular data?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Blake wrote: Yes, you're right, the main forum is definatly a table. And what of the threads themselves? Two columns, no real headings or complex data, that part of the forum is crying out to be an ol to me, and I'm imagining the markup to be something like this: If you need a reference of semantic markup for a forum, take a look at PunBB (http://forums.punbb.org/)- they pretty much use valid, semantic markup throughout their forum package (which make it extremely easy to custom-style with just CSS). Ricky -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFk/MQiXbZ7NjlUcARAh35AKCpI/xtgvfAA/ldK7h+2JyMz3u6PACeLg1d aA6VI+Yxu+06hECzGIe9Vfk= =9bB5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Is a forum a tabular data?
Hi all, I'm going to be creating the front-end for a forum, and I was wondering if people had opinions on whether a forum was tabular data, or a list. The way it is planned, we will have a THREAD TITLE, STARTED BY, REPLIES, and LAST POST heading, and then we will have the obvious bits of data underneath. Personally, I think a table is the semantically correct way to do this, because I think any other method loses the association with the headings and the data. However, I can also see the argument for a list, because it is a list of threads. I think it is not a good way to create it, though, because as soon as you lose CSS these lists mean nothing... Perhaps I'm missing an elegant solution, so if you guys have any ideas, or opinions on whether or not it is tabular data I'd like to hear them. Regards, Blake -- Australian Web Designer – www.blakehaswell.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Is a forum a tabular data?
In my option, it's up to your definition. You've done a good job of defining a forum as a table (and as a list), so maybe you should decide based on issues of usability and practicality, instead. Will you have blind users with screen readers, who'll have an awful time reading through a table? Is it practical, time-wise, for you to code this as a list? I think that some plain-jane web sites could be rationalized as tables: navigation elements in one column, important content in the middle column, and links on the right. Rows, if more than one, indicate degrees of importance. Of course, no one ever puts row and column headers on a site's table... One question: is this forum served out by a database? In that case, you could easily serve it out in multiple page templates, depending on usage and the reader's requirements. that's my 2 cents, depreciated every day. --CC On 12/27/06, Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm going to be creating the front-end for a forum, and I was wondering if people had opinions on whether a forum was tabular data, or a list. The way it is planned, we will have a THREAD TITLE, STARTED BY, REPLIES, and LAST POST heading, and then we will have the obvious bits of data underneath. Personally, I think a table is the semantically correct way to do this, because I think any other method loses the association with the headings and the data. However, I can also see the argument for a list, because it is a list of threads. I think it is not a good way to create it, though, because as soon as you lose CSS these lists mean nothing... Perhaps I'm missing an elegant solution, so if you guys have any ideas, or opinions on whether or not it is tabular data I'd like to hear them. Regards, Blake -- Australian Web Designer – www.blakehaswell.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Is a forum a tabular data?
The very mention that you have multiple headings for organized data gives you your answer. It requires a table heading. Therefore, it's a table. Don't fear it. :) On Dec 26, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Blake wrote: Hi all, I'm going to be creating the front-end for a forum, and I was wondering if people had opinions on whether a forum was tabular data, or a list. The way it is planned, we will have a THREAD TITLE, STARTED BY, REPLIES, and LAST POST heading, and then we will have the obvious bits of data underneath. Personally, I think a table is the semantically correct way to do this, because I think any other method loses the association with the headings and the data. However, I can also see the argument for a list, because it is a list of threads. I think it is not a good way to create it, though, because as soon as you lose CSS these lists mean nothing... Perhaps I'm missing an elegant solution, so if you guys have any ideas, or opinions on whether or not it is tabular data I'd like to hear them. Regards, Blake -- Australian Web Designer – www.blakehaswell.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ . __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
