Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>> Possible depending on what you have installed; that is not what I asked
>> though…
>> The Q was specifically about OS X 10.7
>
> Now I am intrigued : if (as per your original message),
>
>> Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with
>> any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko.
>
> and the first two paragraphs (in fact, the first three)
> display as serif fonts in XP with a Gecko browser, why
> is this not also an indication of a bug in Gecko ? Why
> does it have to manifest itself only in OS X 10.7 in order
> to demonstrate the existence of a bug ? I thought that
> HTML & CSS were platform-neutral, and therefore if one
> sees unexpected behaviour on /any/ platform using the same
> underlying rendering engine this could be indicative of
> a rendering engine bug.
Because the fonts used are specific to OS X (10.6+) and thus not installed on
Win XP ?
The question was – does this testcase work on OS X 10.7. The answer is
currently NO on any release version of Gecko based browser. That is an OS
specific bug - I wanted to make sure that what I saw on my machine(s) was not
due to some odd combination of settings on my side.
Safari 5.1 appears to have another bug specific to @font-face { src:()} with
the same font. I'm not clear yet where exactly the bug is (the bug is fixed in
nightly webkit builds).
Satisfied ?
I thought the subject line was clear enough about the scope of the question…
Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Seamonkey 2.5 (/still/ no auto-update to 2.6.1; has this been completely forogtten ?), Win/XP : Serif, serif, serif, sans-serif, sans-serif. Possible depending on what you have installed; that is not what I asked though… The Q was specifically about OS X 10.7 Now I am intrigued : if (as per your original message), Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. and the first two paragraphs (in fact, the first three) display as serif fonts in XP with a Gecko browser, why is this not also an indication of a bug in Gecko ? Why does it have to manifest itself only in OS X 10.7 in order to demonstrate the existence of a bug ? I thought that HTML & CSS were platform-neutral, and therefore if one sees unexpected behaviour on /any/ platform using the same underlying rendering engine this could be indicative of a rendering engine bug. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a default). The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all font-caches. Other browsers work correctly. Seamonkey 2.5 (/still/ no auto-update to 2.6.1; has this been completely forogtten ?), Win/XP : Serif, serif, serif, sans-serif, sans-serif. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
glad to help…and to be clear…it's 10.7.2, Safari 5.1.2, and initially, I tried in FF 5 (just did a re-install and wrongly assumed it was the latest) tried again in FF 9.0.1, and the first two paragraphs are serif; the following 3 are SANS serif…yes, sorry about my earlier typo. J __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:49 PM, John wrote: >> url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html >> >> Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with >> any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. >> (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a >> default). >> >> The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all >> font-caches. >> Other browsers work correctly. > > in FF, the first two paragraphs are serif, the rest are serif. (only the first two paragraphs are serif, for the rest you meant sans-serif I guess) It appears to be fixed in Nightly builds; should work fine with Firefox 11. > In Safari, the first is serif and the second is sans, as are all the rest. really ? …… oh wait – let me test again. Indeed. WebKit nightly builds work fine, though, as do Chrome 16+. Thanks for testing John. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html > > Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with > any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. > (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a > default). > > The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all > font-caches. > Other browsers work correctly. > > Philippe in FF, the first two paragraphs are serif, the rest are serif. In Safari, the first is serif and the second is sans, as are all the rest. J __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] Test on OS X 10.7 Lion please
url: http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/helveN-L.html Do the first two paragraphs display as serif fonts on Lion (OS X 10.7) with any Gecko/ Firefox browser? If yes, there is a bug in Gecko. (I assume default font preferences - 'western' should use 'serif' as a default). The test fails (displays a serif font) on my side; I already cleared all font-caches. Other browsers work correctly. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
