Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
If accuracy is your bag in the end you'll want to break down and purchase a mobile device I'm with David here. Simulators/emulators don't bring you very far. As far as layout ( css) is concerned, most of the testing can be done using Chrome and Safari, as most devices use Webkit based browsers (probably better Safari release builds, as Chrome has a much faster release cycle, esp compared to the default browser included with Android devices… cough cough upgrade path ?). Just resize your window to evaluate your layout at various viewport dimensions. The added bonus is that you can use the build in developer tools (Webkit Inspector) to troubleshoot. Where Simulators of all kind fail completely is testing interaction design. There are so many pages out there that are very hard to use, simply because it is near impossible to click on links with fatty fingers - the touchable area is simply too small. Remember that a mouse pointer is very precise device with a _small_ tip. And that is only one issue. Nothing beats the real device for that. hi all, When I got various folks to look at this http://sandyfeldman.com/resources/css3animation/ one friend with the latest iphone saw all the animations, another with an iphone a generation older couldn't get at some of them. Folks on the list with other devices saw no animations, or some, or all. Philippe, David, you are both absolutely right - simulators are a pale second choice. Rob's comment I think in the end you'll want several devices is pretty much the way it is. I want several devices. Sadly, while one thing to test with is an option, several things aren't. I am really *really* missing browsercam, which instead of simulations provided actual screenshots and remote access to devices. Is there anything else like that out there? Philippe, in the meanwhile I will take your advice and use chrome and safari resized windows to get an idea of what the various devices will display. thanks everyone for your thoughts. Sandy __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
On 04/07/2012 03:25, David Laakso wrote: I've no idea about that site, but the official Android SDK includes an If accuracy is your bag in the end you'll want to break down and purchase a mobile device and save the receipt for your business accountant. I think in the end you'll want several devices, aside from the different OS versions, the different UI layers from different manufacturers and different form factors can have a significant effect when actually using a device. On 04/07/2012 04:21, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: probably better Safari release builds, as Chrome has a much faster release cycle, esp compared to the default browser included with Android Staring with 4.1 tablets, Chrome will become the default browser on Android devices. Where Simulators of all kind fail completely is testing interaction design. You could always install the emulator on a Windows 7 tablet... Rob __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
http://android-emulator.org/ http://blackberry-emulator.org/ http://tablet-emulator.org/ if someone has the device and could compare the version offered up by the emulator to the real thing and let me know if the emulator is somewhat accurate I would be very grateful. What are your favourite emulators? Screen capture services? Other ways of checking various browser and hardware combinations? Without getting into details, I develop for android and iOS products (iPhone, iPad) and I don't concern myself with the others. From several different sources, those two hold over 80 percent of the market and their share is growing. You can also sign up for Browser Cam -- they support several different devices. Hi Tedd, Thanks for taking the time to answer. I am looking for emulators and screen capture services mostly because browsercam, a service that I relied on for years, is closing. My membership has expired http://www.browsercam.com/important-message/ and I find myself a bit at sea. Do you know of any comparable services out there? http://android-emulator.org/ is this a reasonably accurate emulator? thanks! Sandy __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
http://ripple.tinyhippos.com/ For Webkit-based Blackberrys, at least, Ripple is officially supported by RIM, who manufacture Blackberries. Which is a good start. Regards, Barney Carroll barney.carr...@gmail.com +44 7429 177278 barneycarroll.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
http://ripple.tinyhippos.com/ For Webkit-based Blackberrys, at least, Ripple is officially supported by RIM, who manufacture Blackberries. Which is a good start. Barney - thanks! I've just installed this and will check it out soon. best regards, Sandy __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
On 03/07/12 13:20, Sandy wrote: http://android-emulator.org/ is this a reasonably accurate emulator? I've no idea about that site, but the official Android SDK includes an emulator: http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html Rob __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
I've no idea about that site, but the official Android SDK includes an emulator: http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html Rob - Thank you - this looks like it's got to be accurate! best regards, Sandy __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
I've no idea about that site, but the official Android SDK includes an emulator: http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html Rob - Thank you - this looks like it's got to be accurate! best regards, Sandy Use whatever emulator or simulator does it for you. If accuracy is your bag in the end you'll want to break down and purchase a mobile device and save the receipt for your business accountant. In my experience none of the emulators/simulators really give little more than a very cursory view of the page and its spacing... Best, David Laakso -- Chelsea Creek Studio http://ccstudi.com __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] android blackberry emulators
Le 4 juil. 2012 à 11:25, David Laakso a écrit : Use whatever emulator or simulator does it for you. If accuracy is your bag in the end you'll want to break down and purchase a mobile device and save the receipt for your business accountant. In my experience none of the emulators/simulators really give little more than a very cursory view of the page and its spacing… I'm with David here. Simulators/emulators don't bring you very far. As far as layout ( css) is concerned, most of the testing can be done using Chrome and Safari, as most devices use Webkit based browsers (probably better Safari release builds, as Chrome has a much faster release cycle, esp compared to the default browser included with Android devices… cough cough upgrade path ?). Just resize your window to evaluate your layout at various viewport dimensions. The added bonus is that you can use the build in developer tools (Webkit Inspector) to troubleshoot. Where Simulators of all kind fail completely is testing interaction design. There are so many pages out there that are very hard to use, simply because it is near impossible to click on links with fatty fingers - the touchable area is simply too small. Remember that a mouse pointer is very precise device with a _small_ tip. And that is only one issue. Nothing beats the real device for that. Philippe -- Philippe Wittenbergh http://l-c-n.com/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] android blackberry emulators
hey all, I am looking for a good way to check my work on various platforms. I've found these emulators - http://android-emulator.org/ http://blackberry-emulator.org/ http://tablet-emulator.org/ if someone has the device and could compare the version offered up by the emulator to the real thing and let me know if the emulator is somewhat accurate I would be very grateful. What are your favourite emulators? Screen capture services? Other ways of checking various browser and hardware combinations? thanks! Sandy __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
