Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread David Hucklesby
On 6/9/10 9:41 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:
 http://applegateelements.com/test.html



 the nav displays correctly in chrome and ff but ie.



 line 33

 margin-top : 10px;



 as well as



 line 171

 margin-top : -15px;





 Is there a fix for this?



Yes. Take out those br tags so the negative margin is not needed. The
negative margin-top is px, while br tags create space based on size of
line-height, which will be different from px in a great many circumstances.

Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? Not I...

AFAICT the margin-top is working. In which browser do you not see the
margin? (I checked FF, Safari, and IE 6 and 7...)



 Also, if I adjust



 Line 122

 left : -82px;



 it lines up properly in chrome and ff but ie. is there a fix?


Well, the subnav is a no-show at the moment. I hesitate to go further as
there is so much redundant CSS that I'm sure to break things.

Remember the K.I.S.S. rule!

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew P. Johnson


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Subject: Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

On 6/9/10 9:41 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:
 http://applegateelements.com/test.html



 the nav displays correctly in chrome and ff but ie.



 line 33

 margin-top : 10px;



 as well as



 line 171

 margin-top : -15px;





 Is there a fix for this?



Yes. Take out those br tags so the negative margin is not needed. The
negative margin-top is px, while br tags create space based on size of
line-height, which will be different from px in a great many circumstances.

Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? Not I...

AFAICT the margin-top is working. In which browser do you not see the
margin? (I checked FF, Safari, and IE 6 and 7...)



 Also, if I adjust



 Line 122

 left : -82px;



 it lines up properly in chrome and ff but ie. is there a fix?


Well, the subnav is a no-show at the moment. I hesitate to go further as
there is so much redundant CSS that I'm sure to break things.

Remember the K.I.S.S. rule!

Thank you for the replay David. I will play with it. I had combined 
several peoples code and will remove the redundancy. I am a Network/System 
Admin/Engineer not a CSS Pro. I am learning a lot of this project thanks to all 
of you on CSS-D. :0)

Oh, Century Gothic... Yes I know I just really like the font. I will 
have to find another font to replace it with. 

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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread David Laakso
Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

 Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? 






Tiger got it. Don't know about Leopard/Snow Leopard.

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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Climis, Tim
 Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

 Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer?

My computer has it.  I think it's included with MS Office - because I've only 
installed a few other fonts and that wasn't one of them.  Which means that a 
pretty fair number of people have it, probably.

(I wouldn't use it, because I think it's ugly as sin, but to each his own.)

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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/06/10 09:20 (GMT-0700) David Hucklesby composed:

 On 6/9/10 9:41 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

 http://applegateelements.com/test.html

 Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? Not I...

I have it on several, but why the question? What is it about web developers
that they're so insistent visitors never get to see their defaults without
disabling styles entirely? If Century Gothic is my default, it's not because
someone else picked it out for me, and I'd like to see it more often than not
without having to stick to pages I created myself.
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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Bradley
Ar 10/06/10 21:28, ysgrifennodd Felix Miata :
 Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? Not I...

 I have it on several, but why the question? What is it about web developers
 that they're so insistent visitors never get to see their defaults without
 disabling styles entirely? If Century Gothic is my default, it's not because
 someone else picked it out for me, and I'd like to see it more often than not
 without having to stick to pages I created myself.


I think you misunderstand the point.  You have, in your styles:

font-family : Century Gothic;


The problem here is that if users don't have it installed (as I don't, 
for example), then they will see whatever default their browser thinks 
they should see - which may not be at all what you want.  You might, 
therefore, want to consider a font list (in order of your preference) 
that contains some more common fonts and ends with a generic font (e.g. 
'serif' or 'sans-serif'

HTH


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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew P. Johnson

My computer has it.  I think it's included with MS Office - because I've
only installed a few other fonts and that wasn't one of them.  Which means
that a pretty fair number of people have it, probably.

(I wouldn't use it, because I think it's ugly as sin, but to each his own.)

Tim, HAHAHA. Yes to each their own. I am looking for a solid font
that looks nice and clean. I am sick of Tahoma and all the other fonts we
typically see. :0)

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Re: [css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew P. Johnson

Ar 10/06/10 21:28, ysgrifennodd Felix Miata :
 Who in the world has Century Gothic on their computer? Not I...

 I have it on several, but why the question? What is it about web
developers
 that they're so insistent visitors never get to see their defaults without
 disabling styles entirely? If Century Gothic is my default, it's not
because
 someone else picked it out for me, and I'd like to see it more often than
not
 without having to stick to pages I created myself.


I think you misunderstand the point.  You have, in your styles:

font-family : Century Gothic;


The problem here is that if users don't have it installed (as I don't, 
for example), then they will see whatever default their browser thinks 
they should see - which may not be at all what you want.  You might, 
therefore, want to consider a font list (in order of your preference) 
that contains some more common fonts and ends with a generic font (e.g. 
'serif' or 'sans-serif'


Hi Peter, I understood. Thank you for the advice. :0) 

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[css-d] nav placement issue - ff and chrome great, ie not so great

2010-06-09 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
http://applegateelements.com/test.html

 

the nav displays correctly in chrome and ff but ie.

 

line 33

margin-top : 10px;

 

as well as

 

line 171

margin-top : -15px;

 

 

Is there a fix for this?

 

Also, if I adjust

 

Line 122

left : -82px;

 

it lines up properly in chrome and ff but ie. is there a fix?

 

Sincerely, 

 

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320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 |  http://ecoitsf.com
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