Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
On 10/26/06, Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/26/06, Chris Ovenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is incorrect. It used to be true of other IE versions, but this time around Microsoft have provided a way to roll back the installation to IE6, using the Add/Remove Programs control panel. The functionality is there, but have you tested it? I admittedly haven't tried with the official IE7 release, but when I tried to roll back from the last release candidate it left me with no functioning IE at all. Deskside tech support wasn't able to get it working and we wound up reinstalling Windows. So you might be able to roll back, and if it really works, that's great - but I'm still sticking with the standalone installs. Fair point, and sorry to hear of your troubles. I successfully rolled back the beta a couple of times - haven't actually tried the final release, but I'm not worried that it won't roll back. When I installed, it automatically uninstalled the RC1 version which was on there at the time - which is the correct behaviour. It has to do this so that rolling back the final release results in IE6 not whichever test version. PITA though, as it rebooted my machine twice. If it hadn't done that, though, I would be worried. I didn't know there were standalone versions of IE7. I have to say, I have already started to see IE6 as a browser on which sites may degrade gracefully. -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com Imagine all the people / Sharing all the world __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
I didn't know there were standalone versions of IE7. There probably are, but that's not what I meant. I was referring to using standalone versions of IE6, as opposed to trying to roll back to it. -- Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
On 10/27/06, Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know there were standalone versions of IE7. There probably are, but that's not what I meant. I was referring to using standalone versions of IE6, as opposed to trying to roll back to it. Sorry I misunderstod. I thought you meant you were sticking with IE6. I too am happy to use a slightly defective version of IE6 for testing purposes. -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com Imagine all the people / Sharing all the world __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
On 10/19/06, Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming you want to upgrade, do be careful about installing it, as there's no going back. This is incorrect. It used to be true of other IE versions, but this time around Microsoft have provided a way to roll back the installation to IE6, using the Add/Remove Programs control panel. -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com Imagine all the people / Sharing all the world __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
On 10/26/06, Chris Ovenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is incorrect. It used to be true of other IE versions, but this time around Microsoft have provided a way to roll back the installation to IE6, using the Add/Remove Programs control panel. The functionality is there, but have you tested it? I admittedly haven't tried with the official IE7 release, but when I tried to roll back from the last release candidate it left me with no functioning IE at all. Deskside tech support wasn't able to get it working and we wound up reinstalling Windows. So you might be able to roll back, and if it really works, that's great - but I'm still sticking with the standalone installs. -- Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
snip Kenoli's rant OK, IE7 may just have been officially released this week, but it's been available for download as a beta for months and months. There have been several discussions about its capabilities on this list, and there's a dediated discussion board here: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 ...which I see Alex has pointed out while I was being slow to reply... Anyway, the short answer is that IE7 is a massive improvement in terms of standards compliance. I believe that if everyone upgraded immediately we would see our cross-browser compatibility concerns reduced to various minor issues of the sort that all browsers have, rather than the major gaps which seem to have characterized IE for so long. Sadly, not everyone will upgrade immediately, and we may not see widespread adoption of 7 until there's widespread adoption of Vista, which of course won't happen until some time after Vista's release. Assuming you want to upgrade, do be careful about installing it, as there's no going back. You may want to look into the varioius standalone solutions that let you have multiple versions of IE installed, to make multibrowser testing easier. -- Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
Is there any way of running IE7 or earlier on a Mac? Phil On 19/10/06 16:39, Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Kenoli's rant OK, IE7 may just have been officially released this week, but it's been available for download as a beta for months and months. There have been several discussions about its capabilities on this list, and there's a dediated discussion board here: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 ...which I see Alex has pointed out while I was being slow to reply... Anyway, the short answer is that IE7 is a massive improvement in terms of standards compliance. I believe that if everyone upgraded immediately we would see our cross-browser compatibility concerns reduced to various minor issues of the sort that all browsers have, rather than the major gaps which seem to have characterized IE for so long. Sadly, not everyone will upgrade immediately, and we may not see widespread adoption of 7 until there's widespread adoption of Vista, which of course won't happen until some time after Vista's release. Assuming you want to upgrade, do be careful about installing it, as there's no going back. You may want to look into the varioius standalone solutions that let you have multiple versions of IE installed, to make multibrowser testing easier. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release
On 10/19/06, Phil Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way of running IE7 or earlier on a Mac? There used to be a Mac version of IE, but it's no longer supported. You can, of course, run IE with any of the various solutions for running a full Windows environment on your Mac - such as Parallels (if you have an Intel system), for example. -- Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
