Re: [css-d] Disappearing items in dropdown menu
> I did think about that, but the support for tabbing through the menu is > mainly designed to just ease things for people using the keyboard, most > of these kind of menus I've seen just won't show submenus at all when > used that way. The way it works now, though not ideal, is just the same > as it would be to tab through a normal list of links that was completely > unformatted. It would certainly be nice to add support for another key > to make them "drop" but I'm trying to keep it simple and just using > focus on the links at the moment. Adding support for another key to open > menus would change that and considerably complicate things... It's > certainly a good point though, thanks! It is a very good point that is always overlooked. The only dropdown menu I know that allows for real keyboard navigation (tab and cursor keys) is brothercake's: http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ > Does anyone else have any thoughts? Would you be irritated using it the > way it is now? And has anyone spotted my Mac problem yet? I always wince at the work "accessible dropdown navigation" when it comes to multi level menus. It is not generally accessible, as it does require a visual browser to work properly and is confined to a certain screen estate. If you check your menu in a small window, you will realise that you can expand to the fourth level, but when you scroll the window there to read what is in the menu, then you will lose the menu again, and you get stuck in an endless frustrating loop. Further accessibility issues are: - no current state - the current page is linked to itself and is probably buried in a third level - too many links not related to the current page - by using a menu like that you offer a sitemap on each page. More: http://www.icant.co.uk/forreview/dynamicelements/ -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/ Binaries: http://www.onlinetools.org/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Disappearing items in dropdown menu
I don't know about the Mac side of things, but the biggest problem I see with this menu system is when tabbing through the items, the sub-menus are fully expanded out, whether you've selected that submenu or not, and you are forced to tab through all the submenus before you can get to the next selection in the menu you're currently on. I did think about that, but the support for tabbing through the menu is mainly designed to just ease things for people using the keyboard, most of these kind of menus I've seen just won't show submenus at all when used that way. The way it works now, though not ideal, is just the same as it would be to tab through a normal list of links that was completely unformatted. It would certainly be nice to add support for another key to make them "drop" but I'm trying to keep it simple and just using focus on the links at the moment. Adding support for another key to open menus would change that and considerably complicate things... It's certainly a good point though, thanks! Does anyone else have any thoughts? Would you be irritated using it the way it is now? And has anyone spotted my Mac problem yet? Cheers, John. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
RE: [css-d] Disappearing items in dropdown menu
> I've been working recently on a cascading menu system that > has support > for tabbing through links and using multiple levels. I > thought I'd just > about got it nailed, but a friend tells me that it looks a bit screwy > when he views it in IE 5 on the Mac. > > Description of how it all works is here: > http://www.johnlawrence.net/naviguide/ > The finished menu (the one with the bug) is here: > http://www.johnlawrence.net/naviguide/step5.html > > Oh, and if anyone spots any problems in other browsers I'd be > grateful > to hear about them too! > > Cheers, > > John. John- I don't know about the Mac side of things, but the biggest problem I see with this menu system is when tabbing through the items, the sub-menus are fully expanded out, whether you've selected that submenu or not, and you are forced to tab through all the submenus before you can get to the next selection in the menu you're currently on. I would think you'd want the submenus to not expand until a key was pressed to open them. Of course, then you'd also need some sort of indicator, visual and otherwise, to show that there is a submenu to be activated. Ron __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
