Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Hulse wrote:
 Oh, I also just found this:
 
 (Gunlaug's IE-expressions in CSS)
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item3

Unless you prefer to put IE6 in quirks mode (like I do most of the time) 
then you may be better of with a version that works in both Strict and 
quirks mode. Same page... 
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item34

(IE/Mac still has a hard time following up on CSS-changes for that page, 
but it'll get there - one day)

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Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-02 Thread Al Sparber
As a point of information, we've had this page floating around a long 
time:
http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm

All of the expression solutions we write work in strict mode. Most are 
descendant from solutions we pack with custom products but are useful 
in their own right. Poke around some of our PagePack demos and other 
gems can be found :-)


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 Michael Hulse wrote:
 Oh, I also just found this:

 (Gunlaug's IE-expressions in CSS)
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item3

 Unless you prefer to put IE6 in quirks mode (like I do most of the 
 time)
 then you may be better of with a version that works in both Strict 
 and
 quirks mode. Same page...
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item34

 (IE/Mac still has a hard time following up on CSS-changes for that 
 page,
 but it'll get there - one day)

 regards
 Georg
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Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Al Sparber wrote:
 As a point of information, we've had this page floating around a long
  time: http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm

I've ran some of your solutions earlier, and found them a bit slow and
jerky. No such problems with this one though - it worked really
smooth. Nice.

Since this is js/expressions simulating standard CSS-properties, do you
have an open page with a bit more info to go with those demos? Something
that someone, who can read all kinds of code without necessarily being
able to write them, can make use of before running site wide testing?

Basically interested in min/max both height and width, as defined in
CSS, for IE/win.

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Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-02 Thread Al Sparber
From: Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Al Sparber wrote:
 As a point of information, we've had this page floating around a 
 long
  time: http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm

 I've ran some of your solutions earlier, and found them a bit slow 
 and
 jerky. No such problems with this one though - it worked really
 smooth. Nice.

I guess that's better than calling me jerky :-) I'm glad you like 
this, though. If the jerky solution happened to be the Equal Height 
Columns script, the animation is probably the reason, but it can be 
easily turned off. Let me know if that was an issue - if not, let me 
know which solution you did find jerky so we can look at it... we 
haven't noticed anything, but if you see it, we'd like to examine it.


 Since this is js/expressions simulating standard CSS-properties, do 
 you
 have an open page with a bit more info to go with those demos? 
 Something
 that someone, who can read all kinds of code without necessarily 
 being
 able to write them, can make use of before running site wide 
 testing?

We've been meaning to turn it into an article/tutorial like the EQ 
Columns one, but we're in the middle of developing a new commerical 
tool for Dreamweaver and are a bit backlogged. We'll get around to it 
though. If you have specific questions in the meantime, mail us 
offlist and we'll try our best to accomodate.


 Basically interested in min/max both height and width, as defined in
 CSS, for IE/win.

We've never found a need to do height. Can you give me an example of 
how that would be useful? -or would a smoother Equal Height Columns 
solution take care of that?

Al Sparber
PVII
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mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that 
repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday.


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Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-01 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/1/05, Michael Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2. Should I be worried about the above expression breaking in IE7?

If you are, use a conditional comment, [if lte IE 6]


 3. How would I get min-width and max-width to work in IE/Mac? The
 above expression appears to have no affect on that browser/platform.

If you are concerned about IE Mac, just use straight Javascript, it's
the same as the expression but it's not invalid CSS:
http://pro.html.it/articoli/id_620/idcat_31/pag_1/pag.html


 4. What would you suggest is a good max-width for a fluid-layout site?

I really like 1100 px. Of course, your width should be related to the
number of columns, the width of each column, and the default size of
your text... you might even want to use ems for your max width... I
think you are the best judge of that.

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Re: [css-d] Min-width/Max-width: IE PC/IE Mac too?

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Hulse
On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:37 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:
  I think you are the best judge of that.

Thanks for the response Christian, I really appreciate your time. :)

I probably should not worry about IE/Mac, but I do (I am a Mac guy, and 
I also like the feeling of having my CSS look good in that 
browser/Platform... although, I probably have gotten the biggest 
headaches in my lifetime because of stupid IE/Mac bugs/issues...)

Oh, I also just found this:

(Gunlaug's IE-expressions in CSS)
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_01.html#item3

Thanks!
Cheers,
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