Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

2007-01-23 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:17 AM, david wrote:

 That's too bad. I can't imagine any browser in the world is doing
 anything with these elements scattered in the code:

 spacer type=block width=916 height=37

Actually, the spacer element is supported by Gecko browsers (in  
quirks mode only, I think) for historical reasons. It is legacy code  
coming from dear old Netscape 4.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

2007-01-23 Thread Dave Pierce
To my query about this:

 No matter what I do, the large text box on the left shifts to
 the right just over half the width of the whole window...I've
 tried *http hacks, conditional comments, nothing seems to
 work. I've been back and forth with the BrowserCam quite a
 few times. It works fine in all browsers except IE Win.


Wayne wisely wrote:

 Hi David

 Just took a quick look at your source code and I suspect your  
 problem is in
 the positioning, combined with the div nested in a table cell.  
 Remove the
 positioning and see what you get, then work from there.
Wayne, thanks. I've been struggling trying to learn CSS so long, and  
had never done any HTML in the past, that I couldn't let go of the  
CSS styling. Your answer solved the problem for me. Many thanks!

And Dave, who answered my question about where in the page those  
comments are supposed to go, Thank you too!

Sincerely,
Dave (the other one...of many)


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Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

2007-01-23 Thread david
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:17 AM, david wrote:
 
 That's too bad. I can't imagine any browser in the world is doing
 anything with these elements scattered in the code:

 spacer type=block width=916 height=37
 
 Actually, the spacer element is supported by Gecko browsers (in  
 quirks mode only, I think) for historical reasons. It is legacy code  
 coming from dear old Netscape 4.

Well, if supporting dear old dead Netscape 4 is a requirement, then the 
original poster is stuck with tables for layout, because that's the only 
reliable way to get multi-column layouts in browsers that old ...

I believe one of the characteristics of the Gecko engine that hindered 
its adoption is the fact that it does NOT support the old Netscape 
proprietary things in any mode.

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Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

2007-01-22 Thread david
Dave Pierce wrote:

 I may be putting the conditional comment into the wrong place in the  
 code, as I've not found any source that actually says put it here
 
 Here's the URL: http://www.thenottingham.org/pages/aging_gracefully.html

Hmmm, I don't see any conditional comments in that file at all? They're 
supposed to be in the HTML, not the CSS.

 As I said, I cannot re-style the entire page...it must be done in the  
 style of the rest of the site.

That's too bad. I can't imagine any browser in the world is doing 
anything with these elements scattered in the code:

spacer type=block width=916 height=37

but what would I know? I have Javascript turned off, so if there's some 
JS routine that's supposed to use them for something, I'm not seeing the 
results of it.


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Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

2007-01-22 Thread Wayne Babineau
 
 Hi gurus,
 
 I've been stuck (again) doing a small addition to an old 
 web site that was designed in an older version of GoLive, and 
 is definitely not CSS based. The old version of GL always 
 creates table-style pages. I am not getting paid to do 
 anything but change an old page with a new text box with some links.
 
 No matter what I do, the large text box on the left shifts to 
 the right just over half the width of the whole window...I've 
 tried *http hacks, conditional comments, nothing seems to 
 work. I've been back and forth with the BrowserCam quite a 
 few times. It works fine in all browsers except IE Win.

Hi David

Just took a quick look at your source code and I suspect your problem is in
the positioning, combined with the div nested in a table cell. Remove the
positioning and see what you get, then work from there.

Wayne

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