Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
 This only seems to affect list-items (li) with a transitional doc  
 type or in quirks mode.
 Transitional
 http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/padding-inline2.php
 Strict
 http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/padding-inline.php
 
 Konqueror 3.5.1 also clips partly when using a strict doctype.

Thank you for clarifying. My Tidy kicked in, moved it to strict.

Are implementors free to do so with transitional doctype, or is it a bug?

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
Fixed after reading this tutorial:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200501/ 
turning_a_list_into_a_navigation_bar/

added
float: right;
width: 100%;
to #navcontainer

and

float:left;
width:auto;
to #navlist li

I'm still unclear why some browsers support padding-top on the inline  
li but Safari doesn't.  Is this a bug or is Safari just more strict?   
Does it make sense that it would except horizontal padding but not  
vertical padding?

And as an aside - fishing around on the net and visiting bulletin  
boards highlights the high quality of information available on this  
list.  Thanks everyone.

-Christy



 On Apr 21, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Christy Collins wrote:

 Now there's one last thing.  Safari doesn't like it.  It didn't like
 it before either, so this fix didn't break it.  We have a heap of
 Safari users.
 ...
 http://ee.berkshireradio.org/index.php/main/test/

 -Christy


 Found this on a bulletin board:

 the display: inline on safari does not let you use padding or height
 or anyting to adjust the height of the box

 but no fix or resolution was posted - at least not one that didn't
 involve tables.  Can anyone verify if this is true?  Is there any fix?

 -Christy
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Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Christy Collins wrote:
 
 I'm still unclear why some browsers support padding-top on the inline  
 li but Safari doesn't.  Is this a bug or is Safari just more strict?   
 Does it make sense that it would except horizontal padding but not  
 vertical padding?

I cannot verify this. The local testcase I made with the scrapbook 
extension from your initial file regarding the IE problem did not show 
any problem in my copy of Safari 2.0.3

Here is a version I made for IE:
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/index.html

As long as you are speaking of the padding-top of 22px in #navlist li, 
this seems to be no problem here. I see the yellow small images within 
the padding. (I am aware of that scrapbook does some rearrangement of 
the shorthand property values.)

Here a red bordered div containing a simple pink span with a padding-top 
of 50px and a bg-image
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/index.html

But I might have missed something.

Anyway, it would be easier to search for fixes if you would leave the 
version you are providing with your question unchanged. Debugging a 
moving target is no fun. And others who might read the digest (like me a 
while ago) wonder about what the author is speaking of. No real problem 
here, though.


Ingo

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Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Sorry

 Here a red bordered div containing a simple pink span with a padding-top of 
 50px and a bg-image

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/inlinepadding.html

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Christy Collins
The difference between your version and mine is the doctype

http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_strict.html
http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_transitional.html

Sorry about the moving target - I should have added the css to the  
test file I originally made.

I spent much of my day working on this and found several references  
to a lack of support for vertical padding on inline elements in  
Safari - but no solutions.

-Christy
(who is now going to stop being such a wimp and change her doctype to  
strict)


On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:43 PM, Ingo Chao wrote:

 Christy Collins wrote:

 I'm still unclear why some browsers support padding-top on the inline
 li but Safari doesn't.  Is this a bug or is Safari just more strict?
 Does it make sense that it would except horizontal padding but not
 vertical padding?

 I cannot verify this. The local testcase I made with the scrapbook
 extension from your initial file regarding the IE problem did not show
 any problem in my copy of Safari 2.0.3

 Here is a version I made for IE:
 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/index.html

 As long as you are speaking of the padding-top of 22px in #navlist li,
 this seems to be no problem here. I see the yellow small images within
 the padding. (I am aware of that scrapbook does some rearrangement of
 the shorthand property values.)

 Here a red bordered div containing a simple pink span with a  
 padding-top
 of 50px and a bg-image
 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/20060421004039/index.html

 But I might have missed something.

 Anyway, it would be easier to search for fixes if you would leave the
 version you are providing with your question unchanged. Debugging a
 moving target is no fun. And others who might read the digest (like  
 me a
 while ago) wonder about what the author is speaking of. No real  
 problem
 here, though.

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Re: [css-d] SOLVED: Now-Safari broken Was-background images missing in IE

2006-04-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Apr 22, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Christy Collins wrote:

 The difference between your version and mine is the doctype

 http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_strict.html
 http://ee.berkshireradio.org/test_transitional.html

 Sorry about the moving target - I should have added the css to the
 test file I originally made.

 I spent much of my day working on this and found several references
 to a lack of support for vertical padding on inline elements in
 Safari - but no solutions.

This only seems to affect list-items (li) with a transitional doc  
type or in quirks mode.
Transitional
http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/padding-inline2.php
Strict
http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/padding-inline.php

Konqueror 3.5.1 also clips partly when using a strict doctype.

Philippe
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