Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
Jenn Mears-Nickerson wrote: http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com [...] Here is the relevant CSS as it stands now. [...] Sorry, but it wouldn't make sense to try to debug on CSS level when the source-code it has to act on is as weak as this... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com/ What you're attempting is quite easy when the source-code is good and prepared for it, but more like a maneuver in the dark when the source-code is totally dependent on error-handling across browser-land - like yours is now. Focus on getting the source-code right - not just valid but also somewhat logical in its use of elements/containers - before going any further. Otherwise you may spend days and weeks making it appear to work, only to see it fail again when you try to add something or modify it ever so slightly. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
Hi All, Thank you, at least I know I'm not crazy. I am trying to modify a pre-existing Wordpress template that another person created for a client. I will try and clean up the code and eliminate the table and clutter. The template I am working with had a function installed to switch the sidebar either from left to right and I at least managed to circumvent that, but that last bit of positioning is killing me. Thanks, Jenn Mears-Nickerson From: mx.css...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:41 AM To: Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net, j...@jennmearswebdesign.com, css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue I have to agree with Georg here. I've noticed you are partially using tables (top section) and then DIVs for layout. You need to clean the code and stick with DIVs. Also the 'IE6 fix' conditional comments need to be removed! ie So if it loads in IE6 it'll add even more tables! I'm unsure why the [if IE 7] you close the but not in any other browser. Next step once you've re-coded it into DIVs is to ensure its at least HTML or XHTML Transitional valid. That should be your starting point. Sorry to seem unhelpful but as was said it would only fail again if further modifications were make or may break in IE7/6 due to the conditional comments. ~Mx On Feb 6, 2009 10:57am, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Jenn Mears-Nickerson wrote: http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com [...] Here is the relevant CSS as it stands now. [...] Sorry, but it wouldn't make sense to try to debug on CSS level when the source-code it has to act on is as weak as this... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com/ What you're attempting is quite easy when the source-code is good and prepared for it, but more like a maneuver in the dark when the source-code is totally dependent on error-handling across browser-land - like yours is now. Focus on getting the source-code right - not just valid but also somewhat logical in its use of elements/containers - before going any further. Otherwise you may spend days and weeks making it appear to work, only to see it fail again when you try to add something or modify it ever so slightly. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
I have to agree with Georg here. I've noticed you are partially using tables (top section) and then DIVs for layout. You need to clean the code and stick with DIVs. Also the 'IE6 fix' conditional comments need to be removed! ie LIA href=/pay-per-click.htm!--[if IE 7]!--/a!--![endif]--!--[if lte IE 6]TABLETBODYTRTD![endif]-- So if it loads in IE6 it'll add even more tables! I'm unsure why the [if IE 7] you close the /a but not in any other browser. Next step once you've re-coded it into DIVs is to ensure its at least HTML or XHTML Transitional valid. That should be your starting point. Sorry to seem unhelpful but as was said it would only fail again if further modifications were make or may break in IE7/6 due to the conditional comments. ~Mx On Feb 6, 2009 10:57am, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net wrote: Jenn Mears-Nickerson wrote: http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com [...] Here is the relevant CSS as it stands now. [...] Sorry, but it wouldn't make sense to try to debug on CSS level when the source-code it has to act on is as weak as this... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://testblog.jennmearswebdesign.com/ What you're attempting is quite easy when the source-code is good and prepared for it, but more like a maneuver in the dark when the source-code is totally dependent on error-handling across browser-land - like yours is now. Focus on getting the source-code right - not just valid but also somewhat logical in its use of elements/containers - before going any further. Otherwise you may spend days and weeks making it appear to work, only to see it fail again when you try to add something or modify it ever so slightly. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:05:58 -0800, Erika Meyer wrote: A lot of work already done for you here: http://www.theholiergrail.com/ Hmm. Seems to be a work in progress. Using those links on the left of the home page brings up a succession of pages with blank content this end. (Opera 9.6 on Win xp). ??? Cordially, David -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
David Hucklesby wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:05:58 -0800, Erika Meyer wrote: A lot of work already done for you here: http://www.theholiergrail.com/ Hmm. Seems to be a work in progress. Using those links on the left of the home page brings up a succession of pages with blank content this end. (Opera 9.6 on Win xp). ??? In its defense, I've been using the template (downloaded from the site) and so far worked fine for me, in various browsers. I'm using it for a current project so I'll have a more complete opinion in a few weeks/months. Erika __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] Tricky 3-col layout issue
http://www.theholiergrail.com/ Hmm. Seems to be a work in progress. Using those links on the left of the home page brings up a succession of pages with blank content this end. (Opera 9.6 on Win xp). ??? In its defense, I've been using the template (downloaded from the site) and so far worked fine for me, in various browsers. I'm using it for a current project so I'll have a more complete opinion in a few weeks/months. Erika Hi all-- I've been inundated with work recently (what recession?) and have little time to update theholiergrail.com with new content. I have a much more streamlined version which I plan to upload within the next few weeks but if anybody is eager for the new version and/or the accompanying PDF documentation, please let me off-list and I'll try to get it to you within 24 hours. Thanks. (And thanks, Erika, for the plug.) Bill -- !-- ! Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com ! Web Developologist, WebDevelopedia.com -- __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
