Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-21 Thread Austin, Darrel
 Though I note that it is, somewhat ironically, itself a fixed-width 
 column of text. :)

Not just that, but EXTREMELY wide. Good example of 'do what we say, not
as we do'. FYI, if it bothers anyone else, I built a scriptlet that will
covert ALAP's CSS to a nice liquid-width layout:

http://mnteractive.com/archive/fixing-the-fixed-width-design-again/

-Darrel
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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Austin, Darrel
 Does anyone know of good solutions that I could test and try 
 to make the files compatible for both resolutions (600x400 
 and 1024x640) ?

First of all, don't design for screen resolutions. It's mostly
irrelevant. What matters are browser viewport sizes, and that can be
anything and everything.

However, what you are asking is how to make a site that flexes to fit.
The common term is 'liquid layout' or 'fluid layout' with some variants
such as 'jello layout'.

If the site was designed initially for a specific width at 1024, it's
doubtful that a bit of CSS will fix it so that it properly resizes.
You'll likely have to rebuild the pages over again this time with the
liquid layout in mind. For ideas, just google 'css liquid layout' and
you should find plenty of examples.

-Darrel
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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 9/20/06, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know of good solutions that I could test and try to make
 the files compatible for both resolutions (600x400 and 1024x640) ?

I'm assuming you mean 640x480 and 1024x768.  But your goal should be
to make pages that work at any (reasonable) resolution, not just a
couple of popular ones.  The difference is between static and
fluid or elastic layout design.

There's no one simple solution, but there are several techniques that
are helpful.  If you post a link to a page that's giving you trouble,
we can offer some targeted suggestions.  Meanwhile, this article is a
good starting point:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/
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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Austin, Darrel wrote:
 Does anyone know of good solutions that I could test and try 
 to make the files compatible for both resolutions (600x400 
 and 1024x640) ?
 
 First of all, don't design for screen resolutions. It's mostly
 irrelevant. What matters are browser viewport sizes, and that can be
 anything and everything.

Agreed. I have been guilty of designing for specific resolutions for a 
while, and I am trying to break out of this. Liquid layouts with a 
decent max-width should work pretty well I think.

The sizes you mention are rather non-standard - 1024x640? Typo? If you 
need a quick fix, I would suggest using a resolution-dependant layout 
switcher, google resolution dependant layout for some solutions. 
Essentially it's a little javascript that switches from one stylesheet 
to another based on the width of the browser window. The usual caveats 
about browser size not equal to viewport apply.

Just out of curiousity, what device operates at 600x400? I'm assuming 
it's some kind of hand-held device?

Regards,
  - Rahul.

PS: Please do post new questions using a Create Message or whatever 
your mail client calls it. Otherwise for those of us using message 
threading, it becomes rather confusing; not to mention I have to 
manually cut and paste your email from the previous message, as I 
replied to Darrels response, IMHO, a more correct way than the other. 
I attach a small screenshot to illustrate what I mean.

http://rahulgonsalves.com/dump/threading.gif  - R.
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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Mike
it's typo.
I meant 800x600.

Thanks everyone for your advices, lots of work ahead apparently to fix this.
That's just horrible.

Rahul Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Austin, Darrel wrote:
 Does anyone know of good solutions that I could test and try 
 to make the files compatible for both resolutions (600x400 
 and 1024x640) ?
 
 First of all, don't design for screen resolutions. It's mostly
 irrelevant. What matters are browser viewport sizes, and that can be
 anything and everything.

Agreed. I have been guilty of designing for specific resolutions for a 
while, and I am trying to break out of this. Liquid layouts with a 
decent max-width should work pretty well I think.

The sizes you mention are rather non-standard - 1024x640? Typo? If you 
need a quick fix, I would suggest using a resolution-dependant layout 
switcher, google resolution dependant layout for some solutions. 
Essentially it's a little javascript that switches from one stylesheet 
to another based on the width of the browser window. The usual caveats 
about browser size not equal to viewport apply.

Just out of curiousity, what device operates at 600x400? I'm assuming 
it's some kind of hand-held device?

Regards,
  - Rahul.

PS: Please do post new questions using a Create Message or whatever 
your mail client calls it. Otherwise for those of us using message 
threading, it becomes rather confusing; not to mention I have to 
manually cut and paste your email from the previous message, as I 
replied to Darrels response, IMHO, a more correct way than the other. 
I attach a small screenshot to illustrate what I mean.

http://rahulgonsalves.com/dump/threading.gif  - R.



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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread ~davidLaakso
Mike wrote:
 I am having nightmares fixing CSS files and HTML pages which were initially 
 designed for 
 a 1024x640 screen resolution.
 I have been playing around with position:absolute, width:100% etc
 No luck so far.

 Does anyone know of good solutions that I could test and try to make
 the files compatible for both resolutions (600x400 and 1024x640) ?

 Thanks
Pick your poison.
Any of these layouts will satisfy your need.
Either the 2, or 3col layout on this page:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/
Or these 2, and 3col layouts which use same principle:
n.01-n.06
n.13-n.18
n.19-n.22
n.25-n.32
on this page http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/
Best,
~dL
PS Avoid absolute positioning as though it was a dread disease-- stick 
to float based layouts...all will be well :-) .




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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Al Sparber
 I'm assuming you mean 640x480 and 1024x768.  But your goal should be
 to make pages that work at any (reasonable) resolution, not just a
 couple of popular ones.  The difference is between static and
 fluid or elastic layout design.

 There's no one simple solution, but there are several techniques 
 that
 are helpful.  If you post a link to a page that's giving you 
 trouble,
 we can offer some targeted suggestions.  Meanwhile, this article is 
 a
 good starting point:

 http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/

It's kind of ironic that the above site requires a 1000 pixel-wide 
viewport :-)

Sorry - just couldn't resist. 


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Re: [css-d] css compatible for 600x400 and 1024x640 resolutions

2006-09-20 Thread Christian Heilmann
  http://www.alistapart.com/articles/elastic/

 It's kind of ironic that the above site requires a 1000 pixel-wide
 viewport :-)

 Sorry - just couldn't resist.

Please do. The amount of comments you get as an author about problems
of the site that publishes your stuff is simply staggering. One reason
I stopped publishing anything at devarticles.com although they pay for
articles.
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