Re: [CTRL] GLOBAL WORKING GROUPS, II
-Caveat Lector- Dear John, I totally agree and regret that I forgot to mention our address: http://www.unitedpeoples.net Ole Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:14:48 +1000 From: "John Nydam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I suppose this message came through the mai-not listings. Please introduce yourself more intimately, who are you, what is your background, (maybe my ignorance), but you could be the Ku Klux Klan for whatever I know. The organizers "formative world parliament of the united peoples", sounds a bit old hat, personally I would like to see something more original! I do share your concern and offer all encouragement, but don't start singing the "internationale", we did that for you years ago, which turned out a waste of time. John Nydam, Sydney "Beware of Global Corporate Tyranny" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 26 July 1999 7:04 Subject: GLOBAL WORKING GROUPS, II ENVIRONMENTALISTS OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE ! The transnational corporations are not only behind all destruction of the nature, poisoning of our food, etc. By means of their mass media monopoly and their politicians they also prevent any efficient steps to stop the alarming destruction and poisoning from being taken. All progressive environmentalists therefore must pool all of their expertice by forming one global movement. The main tasks should include: 1. Together with the other task groups (e.g. consumers, workers, farmers, fisherfolk, outcasts, human rights, culture, women, youth, indigneous peoples, alternative economics) to set up a strategy for inter-. nationalization of the corporations. 2. To define and promote the way of life, production and consumption that will allow for restoration of the environment. 3. Globally organizing and coordinating the daily struggles against the ecologic crimes. 4. Advising the future WP. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is hereby opened as provisional contact point. The organizers, the formative world parliament of the united peoples -- For MAI-not (un)subscription information, posting guidelines and links to other MAI sites please see http://mai.flora.org/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NY TIMES HOLDS BACK STORY ON CITIBANK AND CHINA [drudge]
-Caveat Lector- NY TIMES HOLDS BACK NEW GERTH STORY ON CITIBANK AND CHINA **Exclusive** The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that the NEW YORK TIMES is holding back a new blockbuster report that details how a New York City bank has been slow to cooperate with various federal investigations looking into money transfers from China to individuals suspected of passing cash to the Democratic National Committee. According to publishing sources, NEW YORK TIMES star reporter Jeff Gerth filed his story last Friday. And publication of the report has now been bumped from Saturday to Sunday to Monday... to one day. "It is a big story, and its fair to say that the editors are nervous," one newspaper source explained early on Monday. "And sure, CITIBANK is a huge advertiser." The exclusive report details how CITIBANK has failed to cooperate with various law enforcement officials in the China case. Investigators have subpoenaed bank account records of suspected money runners. According to the report, CITIBANK has balked at providing any such records, citing, among other things, a "language barrier" problem with its Hong Kong office. [CITIBANK also claimed the twelve hour time differential between New York and Hong Kong has led to communication difficulties.] One congressional committee investigating the cash transfers from China is now threatening to subpoena individuals from CITIBANK to explain the lack of cooperation. China's alleged money laundering scheme has been on Gerth's radar for months. "[Gerth] filed a solid story, that was very well sourced," one TIMES insider said of the Pulitzer Prize winner. "No one really knows why it hasn't run." Or if it will ever run? Developing... http://www.drudgereport.com/matt1.htm Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WASHINGTON POST ASKS BUSH ABOUT COCAINE
-Caveat Lector- WASHINGTON POST ASKS BUSH ABOUT COCAINE It didn't come from a grocery store tabloid. It didn't come from any of the nation's cable news channels. It didn't break on an "Internet gossip" website. Instead, it was in a Page One, 5,000-word, columns 1-5 above-the-fold scream sensation Sunday special of the WASHINGTON POST. "We need to ask the cocaine question." A question for Texas Governor George W. Bush. POST reporters Lois Romano and George Lardner Jr. finally saw the first of their reports on Bush reach publication over the weekend. The duo had been working on the spread for months. The first report was on Bush's personality -- and his past. The POST interviewed dozens of friends, family and business associates for the series, including Bush's wife, sister and mother. In the report, the WASHINGTON POST used the word "alcoholic" five times; "alcohol" 14 times; "drinking" 20 times. And then it came. POST: "We need to ask the cocaine question. We think you believe that a politician should not let stories fester. So why won't you just deny that you've used cocaine?" BUSH: "I'm not going to talk about what I did years ago. This is a game where they float rumors, force a person to fight off a rumor; then they'll float another rumor. And I'm not going to participate. I saw what happened to my dad with rumors in Washington. I made mistakes. I've asked people to not let the rumors get in the way of the facts. I've told people I've learned from my mistakes -- and I have. And I'm going to leave it at that. " POST: "Do you believe there's a statute of limitations?" BUSH: "There's never a statute of limitations evidently. Particularly when people are spreading gossip and rumors." After all of these years, no one does it better than the WASHINGTON POST. [Even though the WALL STREET JOURNAL's Ellen Pollock did take the first run at the cocaine question a few months back.] Next in the Romano/Lardner Bush series: A Texas Childhood. [And what was in those diapers?] http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DemocRat thugs Hope to raise $200 million in unregulated $ [wnd]
-Caveat Lector- 07/25/1999 04:25:54 Dems going for the big bucks The Democratic Party is seeking to raise $200 million in unregulated party donations, or soft money, by November 2000 to counter Republican front-runner Gov. George W. Bush's $37 million war chest, The New York Times reported Sunday. In interviews, nearly two dozen unnamed Democratic Party officials and fund-raisers said they wanted to collect nearly twice as much soft money as they did in 1996 because they feared Bush ``will have millions more to spend during the nomination battle early next year,'' the Times reported. The paper noted that Bush would not be constrained by federal spending limits in the primary elections because he had decided not to accept federal matching funds, while the Democratic nominee could hit the primary spending limit of nearly $40 million or run out of money by late March. It said that could mean that by spring and early summer 2000, Bush would still have ample funds while his Democratic challenger would be constrained from spending any money. After the parties' conventions, each will receive some $66 million in public funds to run campaigns, it added. ``Soft money'' refers to large contributions from labor unions, corporations and wealthy individuals that fall outside Federal election law. But going after such money places Democrats in an awkward position because President Clinton, Vice President Al Gore and former Sen. Bill Bradley have all called on Congress to ban soft money as part of overhauling the campaign-finance system, the paper said. Bradley earlier this week portrayed Gore and Bush ``as hypocrites on campaign-finance reform because they intended to rely heavily on soft-money donations next year,'' the Times said. It also said that Democratic fund-raisers, strategists and party officials were concerned that the Democratic National Committee was not equipped to meet the goal of raising $200 million. One problem it faces is that both Gore and Bradley trail Bush by wide margins in most polls, and ``people want to give to the candidate they believe will win,'' in one fund-raiser's words, according to the Times. Counting just soft money, the Republican Party outraised the Democratic Party by $17 million in the two years leading up to the 1998 congressional elections, it said. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/July1999/072599/demsbucks072599.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Karl Marx: Racist, Satanist, Anti-Semite
-Caveat Lector- MARX AND SATAN by Richard Wurmbrand, 1986 A BOOK REVIEW - PART ONE OF TWO Karl Marx has been celebrated in leftist media and academic circles as a visionary humanitarian whose compassion for the downtrodden industrial working class of the nineteenth century consumed his life. This propaganda, of a "compassionate" Marx, has been one of the most effective weapons in the left wing arsenal. In 1986, Richard Wurmbrand, himself once a prisoner of the Communist dictatorship of Romania, exploded the myth of Marx as "compassionate savior of the working class." Drawing on Marx's personal correspondence, plays, and poetry, Wurmbrand exposes the reader to a Marx hidden from our view: A Marx that despised humanity, and, rather than not believing in the existence of God, Marx believed that God exists. In fact, Marx believed in God enough to hate Him with unbridled fanaticism. ATHEISM: COVER FOR SATAN WORSHIP For someone who did not believe in God, Marx expended a lot of energy expressing his hatred of God. In his poem, "Invocation of One in Despair," Marx declares a war of personal revenge on God: "So a god has snatched from me my all In the curse and rack of destiny. All his worlds are gone beyond recall Nothing but revenge is left for me. I shall build my throne high overhead, Cold, tremendous shall its summit be. For its bulwark, supersitious dreads. For its marshal, blackest agony" Later on in the "poem," Marx declares himself to be the equal of God: "Then I will be able to walk triumphantly, like a god, through the ruins of their kingdom. Every word of mine is fire and action. My breast is equal to that of the creator." Marx, the "atheist," believed in God enough to hate Him. As we will see in later sections of this review, Marx's extreme hatred of humanity led him to his hatred of humanity's Creator. In his play, OULANEM, Marx admits that there is an eternal life, but for him, it is an eternal life of hatred. The chief object of Marx's hatred was made clear in the "poem," "Invocation of One in Despair:" "I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above." As no one can hate, or desire revenge, against someone he claims to believe does not even exist, Marx's suppressed writings clearly indicate that he really believed two things about religion: 1. Marx believed in God. 2. Marx hated God. Moses Hess, socialist revolutionary, brought Marx into the world socialist movement. Hess said of Marx: "Dr. Marx, my idol, will give the last kick to medieval religion." Georg Jung, another friend and fellow revolutionary, bragged that Marx would "chase God from his heaven." For Marx, socialism was just bait to trick the working classes into helping him with his unending war on God, when liberals claim Marx didn't believe God exists. Wurmbrand turned up solid research of Marx's connections with the Satan worshipping cults that rose up in nineteenth century Europe. Marx's daughter, Eleanor, received her father's permission to marry Edward Eveling. Eveling was another "thinker" of the period, who lived to lecture on such topics as "The Wickedness of God." Eveling described God as "an encourager of polygamy and an instigator of theft." Eveling exposed himself as a worshipper of Satan when he came up with his own bit of "poetry:" "To thee my verses, unbridled and daring, Shall mount, O Satan, king of the banquet. Away with thy sprinkle, O priest, and thy droning. For never shall Satan, O priest, stand behind thee. Like the whirlwind spreading its wings, He passes, O people, Satan the great! Hail, of reason the great Vindicator! Sacred to thee shall rise incense and vows! Thou hast the god of the priest disenthroned!" Marx's "atheism" was a cover for his true allegiance to Satan. That is the conclusion Richard Wurmbrand arrived at as the result of his research. --- Posted by: roughrider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * 11/15/98 20:39:37 PST http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a364fac8c56ed.htm --- In Part 2, Marx, the "Great Humanitarian," expresses his actual hatred for all humanity. We will see that he called for a solution to what he called THE JEWISH QUESTION, in a diatribe that heralded the coming of ADOLF HITLER. --- MARX AND SATAN by Richard Wurmbrand, 1986 A BOOK REVIEW - PART TWO OF TWO The modern media and academia portray Marx as a great humanitarian, concerned for the downtrodden, the poor, and the oppressed. The true Marx is far different, as Richard Wurmbrand learned after reading all of Marx's literary works, and most his private papers. MARX: ANTI-SEMITE Marx, himself
[CTRL] Fw: Konformist: 1999 Area 51 People's Rally Report
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; undisclosed-recipients:; Date: Monday, 26 July 1999 22:54 Subject: Konformist: 1999 Area 51 People's Rally Report Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/51rally.htm 1999 Area 51 People's Rally Report NEVADA RALLY RIPS NEW WORLD ORDER ON 6,6,6, 1999 by Segundo Enolagay It was the 6th hour of the 6th day of the 6th month. Nearly 200 people from various ethnic backgrounds, eight states and four countries had gathered outside of Area 51, America's top secret military installation to protest an emerging Luciferian New World Order. Area 51, often called Dreamland, or Groom Lake, has been the home of Black Op's weapons testing of bacteriological, chemical, nuclear, biological weaponry and a wide variety of space-age military craft such as the S.R.71 Blackbird, the F. 117, the U-2, and the current Mach 10 plus Aurora. What the protesters were objecting to was not the military's privacy in testing the exotic weaponry, but rather secret experiments allegedly being conducted upon human beings in what the organizer, Anthony J. Hilder, referred to as "Frankenstein Factories" the actual "staging" of an INVASION FROM SPACE to panic the public into surrendering their national sovereignty and the development of bacteriological, biological, and chemical warfare weaponry to be used on unsuspecting civilian populations. Nevada's Nellis Testing Range, which is as large as the state of Rhode Island and encompasses Area 51, was the testing ground for the first atomic bomb. It is located 120 miles north of Las Vegas in a remote area of the high desert, along with what is now officially named the Extra Terrestrial Highway, and is home to consistent "sightings" of anti-gravational flying discs, most commonly referred to as U.F.O.'S Consequently, tens of thousands of hopeful U.F.O. aficionados have been lured to the area over the years to see and photograph the strange lights in the sky. Television crews from as far away as England, the Netherlands, France and Germany have shown up at Joe and Pat's LITTLE A "LE" INN" to get the latest scuttlebutt about the BLACK OP activities Hilder served as a guide and consultant for Japan's Asahi television network whose staff flew to the U.S. to film an introduction special for the X-FILES, which aired to 60 million across the island Empire. Robert Lazar, a scientist who worked as a reverse engineer at S4, nine miles south of the secret underground Groom Lake facility, claims that the military has nine captured alien flying craft that they have been analyzing and testing there for the past several years. This adds credence to the fact that the thousands who have witnessed sightings from the adjacent Tikaboo Valley weren't looking at "pie-in-the-sky" but rather manned alien aircraft or carbon-copies of "the real thing". Anthony J. Hilder meets with Blaine Heald and Bill Wagers, the District Manager of the Bureau of Land Management to discuss the 666 Rally. Hilder is furnishing copies of NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY to the boy at the BLM as part of the FREE WORLD ALLIANCE "Revelation 2000" program to educate government workers to the evils of the New World Order. What concerns Norio Hayakawa and Anthony J. Hilder, who initially started these protests on the same date last year, is the giant leap leftward towards a Global World-being directed by a Cabalistic Cartel whose agenda is the establishment of a Luciferian New World Order. Hilder and Hayakawa, who see Area 51 as a testing ground for future controlled "catastrophic" events, trace the source of the high-treasonous activities conducted there to individuals like Bush, Clinton, Kissinger and Gore who work through organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the privately owned Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, the Skull Bones and the Club of Rome. They claim that this Cashist Cartel has taken control over Area 51's research facilities and plan to use the weaponry developed there to bring about One World Government. They charge that major government investigative agencies such as the C.I.A., D.l.A., l.S.A., N.S.A., F.B.I. and the Justice Department have been compromised and serve as willlng tools for the establishment of an Orwellian Evilarchy where truth, justice and the American Way would be conside red mere anachronisms of the past. One very credible individual featured in Hilder and Hayakawa's video presentation...THE PANIC PROJECT, accompanied by two young ladies, witnessed from a position approximately two miles from the protest site, what can best be described as a dress rehearsal for a "MOCK INVASION FROM SPACE". They believe that the "staged event" which continued for approximately one-hour and five-minutes and included some twenty-five or more anti-gravitiomal flying craft, will may
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis July 26, 1999
___ Visit Stratfor's NEW Middle East Africa Intelligence Center http://www.stratfor.com/meaf/default.htm ___ ALSO ON STRATFOR.COM A Midsummer's View of Japan and China's Economic Status http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special34.htm Russia Argues for Debt Forgiveness http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/c9907242355.htm Iran Warns Against Reactionary Backlash http://www.stratfor.com/MEAF/commentary/c9907242335.htm __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis July 26, 1999 China, Falun Gong and the Politics of Economic Depression Summary: China has become obsessed with a couple million middle-aged members of a group that does a lot of strange exercises and whose leader lives in New York. Sensible people - like those at the New York Times - can't understand why the Chinese government cares about Falun Gong when there are so many serious economic problems to worry about. That's a good point, since China is in deepening economic depression (for our latest read on Asia's economy, see http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special34.htm ) The reason China is so concerned is because the Chinese know that there is no solution to their economic problems. Therefore, they are bracing for the social and political consequences of long-term economic failure. Beijing understands that in times of misery, seemingly harmless groups can suddenly challenge the regime. The crackdown on Falun Gong expresses Beijing's deep-seated insecurity. If China's economy can't recover, can the regime survive? President Jiang Zemin intends to do whatever is necessary to make certain it can. Analysis: The Chinese government has mounted a massive public attack on the Falun Gong, a quasi-religious group that is reported to involve large numbers of middle- aged people doing to strange exercises. To outsiders, Beijing's obsession with this group appears strange and even bizarre. The New York Times, for example, ran an article today pointing out that with China's economy in deep trouble, there are much more important things to worry about than strange cults. What the Times and other observers fail to understand is that Beijing is obsessed with Falun Gong precisely because it cannot get control of the economy. Beijing knows full well that the economy is in trouble. It also knows that there is little it can do about it. Therefore, Beijing is bracing for the inevitable social consequences of economic depression, an extreme condition under which even innocuous cults can quickly get out of hand. In our view, the internal dynamic of China resembles that of Indonesia more than it does Japan. Although Japan and Indonesia both suffered from similar economic defects, there was real social and political difference between the two countries. Japan's economy was obviously much more developed than Indonesia's, but the more significant difference was that Japan itself was much more socially integrated and stable. It could absorb the consequences of economic failure without being torn apart by social and political tensions. Indonesia, quite apart from its level of economic development, lacked the social integration needed to handle bad times. Thus, the consequences of economic failure had immediate and severe social and political consequences in Indonesia, consequences that could be contained for a longer period of time in Japan. China is politically integrated. It is not socially integrated. It has ethnic, religious, class and regional tensions that Beijing was able to paper over during economic good times. When the economy contracts and the task becomes the distribution of scarcity rather than the management of prosperity, these forces emerge and the state has to struggle to contain them. Now, Beijing is much stronger the Jakarta and has more political tools at its disposal than the Indonesian government had. Nevertheless, it is nowhere near as stable as Japan. China, in the end, is a country with more than a century of experience in revolution and social upheaval. Beijing is exquisitely aware of its vulnerabilities. It is also aware that seemingly nonpolitical movements that do not owe their primary loyalties to the regime can rapidly be transformed into political challenges. At a time when Beijing is dealing with the social consequences of economic decline, the Falun Gong is one of dozens of challenges that China will take seriously. Why is Beijing concerned with Falun Gong when it has more serious economic problems to worry about? The answer is simple. China does not have the ability to do anything about its economic problems without worsening its social problems. Therefore, since it regards its economic problems as a given, it is focusing on the dimension that it can do something about: the socio-political consequences of economic decline. China is dealing with the
[CTRL] Fw: Weekly Analysis (China) July 26, 1999
-Caveat Lector- As I started posting over one year ago, China is in for some "interesting" times. This will have a big effect on the US economic and political situation. flw STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update Weekly Analysis July 26, 1999 China, Falun Gong and the Politics of Economic Depression Summary: China has become obsessed with a couple million middle-aged members of a group that does a lot of strange exercises and whose leader lives in New York. Sensible people - like those at the New York Times - can't understand why the Chinese government cares about Falun Gong when there are so many serious economic problems to worry about. That's a good point, since China is in deepening economic depression (for our latest read on Asia's economy, see http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special34.htm ) The reason China is so concerned is because the Chinese know that there is no solution to their economic problems. Therefore, they are bracing for the social and political consequences of long-term economic failure. Beijing understands that in times of misery, seemingly harmless groups can suddenly challenge the regime. The crackdown on Falun Gong expresses Beijing's deep-seated insecurity. If China's economy can't recover, can the regime survive? President Jiang Zemin intends to do whatever is necessary to make certain it can. Analysis: The Chinese government has mounted a massive public attack on the Falun Gong, a quasi-religious group that is reported to involve large numbers of middle- aged people doing to strange exercises. To outsiders, Beijing's obsession with this group appears strange and even bizarre. The New York Times, for example, ran an article today pointing out that with China's economy in deep trouble, there are much more important things to worry about than strange cults. What the Times and other observers fail to understand is that Beijing is obsessed with Falun Gong precisely because it cannot get control of the economy. Beijing knows full well that the economy is in trouble. It also knows that there is little it can do about it. Therefore, Beijing is bracing for the inevitable social consequences of economic depression, an extreme condition under which even innocuous cults can quickly get out of hand. In our view, the internal dynamic of China resembles that of Indonesia more than it does Japan. Although Japan and Indonesia both suffered from similar economic defects, there was real social and political difference between the two countries. Japan's economy was obviously much more developed than Indonesia's, but the more significant difference was that Japan itself was much more socially integrated and stable. It could absorb the consequences of economic failure without being torn apart by social and political tensions. Indonesia, quite apart from its level of economic development, lacked the social integration needed to handle bad times. Thus, the consequences of economic failure had immediate and severe social and political consequences in Indonesia, consequences that could be contained for a longer period of time in Japan. China is politically integrated. It is not socially integrated. It has ethnic, religious, class and regional tensions that Beijing was able to paper over during economic good times. When the economy contracts and the task becomes the distribution of scarcity rather than the management of prosperity, these forces emerge and the state has to struggle to contain them. Now, Beijing is much stronger the Jakarta and has more political tools at its disposal than the Indonesian government had. Nevertheless, it is nowhere near as stable as Japan. China, in the end, is a country with more than a century of experience in revolution and social upheaval. Beijing is exquisitely aware of its vulnerabilities. It is also aware that seemingly nonpolitical movements that do not owe their primary loyalties to the regime can rapidly be transformed into political challenges. At a time when Beijing is dealing with the social consequences of economic decline, the Falun Gong is one of dozens of challenges that China will take seriously. Why is Beijing concerned with Falun Gong when it has more serious economic problems to worry about? The answer is simple. China does not have the ability to do anything about its economic problems without worsening its social problems. Therefore, since it regards its economic problems as a given, it is focusing on the dimension that it can do something about: the socio-political consequences of economic decline. China is dealing with the problem that is both important and manageable. It is not dealing with the problems that are unmanageable. In that sense, the Falun Gong episode is completely understandable. The key to all of this is understanding that
[CTRL] Fwd: **EXCLUSIVE-FBI REPORT-JFK JR DOWNED BY BOMB
http://www.sightings.com/politics4/blasted.htm WORLD EXCLUSIVE SIGHTINGS WORLD EXCLUSIVE FBI Document: BOMB BLASTED JFK's PLANE Says Skolnick By Sherman Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7-25-99 NOTE - Sherman Skolnick will be Jeff's Guest at 8 pm Pacific tonight What Happened to America's Golden Boy - Pt 4 By Sherman Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7-25-99 Excerpts from FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION PRELIMINARY REPORT ON THE RECOVERY OF PIPER SARATOGA AIRCRAFT OF JOHN F. KENNEDY, Jr. 1. No declassification until 7/22/2029. 2. This is in deference to the wishes of a senior member of the Kennedy family. 3. Also in deference to the order of the national government and in respect to certain foreign intelligence agencies having reciprocal agreements with the U.S. 4. POTUS order and national security findings attached. 5. The recovered aircraft shows evidence of an explosive device having been glued or affixed within the tail luggage compartment. 6. Device was apparently actuated by a barometric trigger. Radio signals not ruled out. 7. Tail of aircraft was dismembered from the plane making it front heavy. 8. Study of radar shows the plane fell in excess of 6,000 feet per minute up to radar cutoff. 9. Satellite images supplied by the National Reconnaissance Office record an outbursting flash from the aircraft just prior to it going into perpendicular descent. 10. Tail structure was dismembered just prior to descent. 11. Recovery of a piece of luggage from beyond the flight path of the aircraft correlates with it being hurtled out of the tail luggage compartment at outburst. 12. Preliminary examination of the aircraft shows residue of an explosive device the Laboratory identifies as being the type used by certain foreign intelligence agencies. Refer to POTUS order and findings. 13. Study of Air Traffic Control and other radio signals shows no Mayday report from the aircraft, explained by rapidity of descent. 14. Investigation and examination has been strictly compartmentalized. 15. A short, perfunctory examination of the recovered bodies was completed. Examination revealed that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was in third trimester pregnant, the fetus a boy. The four bodies were transferred to a senior member of the Kennedy family. The Bureau was not informed whether the bodies were actually cremated. Indirect advisories report that the bodies may have been shipped in untagged containers to foreign destinations. Reliable assets are to submit reports. For a heavy packet of printed stories send $5.00 [U.S. funds] plus a stamped, self-addressed BUSINESS sized envelope with three stamps on it, to Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, Sherman H. Skolnick,Chairman,9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870. Office: 8 a.m. to midnight, 7 days, (773) 375-5741. Recorded phone message (773) 731-1100. E-mail: skolnick@ameritech. net website: skolnicksreport.com NOTE "s" after skolnick in website address. We hope in near future to have portions of our TV Show on video streaming on internet.
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Was Kubrick Killed?
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/flicks/kubrickkill.htm http://www.konformist.com/flicks/kubrick.htm Was Kubrick Killed? John Madziarczyk You guys at Konformist have probably seen Eyes Wide Shut, but I figured I should throw my two cents in anyways..Well, I don't know about Kubrick dying because of portraying elites having sex, but I think it's pretty clear that Kubrick was using the idea of the Illuminati as a thematic device. Consider: the place where this 'group sex' occurs is at a different amazingly fancy house each time, the piano player is blindfolded during it.more importantly, what those 'group sex' accounts leave out is that it isn't just a bunch of rich people getting off, it's all ceremonial. Yeah, complete with officials in semi-ecclaisiastical garb, ritual masks, and chanting in an unknown language. The head guy walks around a circle of cloaked and hooded women in masks, censes them, and bangs his staff on the ground. I'm not too familiar with all the Illuminati history, but at least in Robert Anton Wilson's books wasn't group ritual sex part of the illuminati, plus in Crowley's accounts of various 'Rosicrucian' gatherings that he attended with the German leaders of the original OTO? The scene is just visually overwhelming, and I don't mean because of the women, really. And I don't think that he was commenting on anything 'real' working from experience or trying to tell anyone anything, the Illuminati serve to wake up this yuppie to the fact that there are other things in this world besides cute little dinner parties, vacations on Martha's Vinyard, and nice smooth upperclass whitebread life in general. It is called Eyes Wide Shut after all. If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Don't know which one to buy? Productopia does. http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/554 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/konformist http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: 1999 Area 51 People's Rally Report
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/51rally.htm 1999 Area 51 People's Rally Report NEVADA RALLY RIPS NEW WORLD ORDER ON 6,6,6, 1999 by Segundo Enolagay It was the 6th hour of the 6th day of the 6th month. Nearly 200 people from various ethnic backgrounds, eight states and four countries had gathered outside of Area 51, America's top secret military installation to protest an emerging Luciferian New World Order. Area 51, often called Dreamland, or Groom Lake, has been the home of Black Op's weapons testing of bacteriological, chemical, nuclear, biological weaponry and a wide variety of space-age military craft such as the S.R.71 Blackbird, the F. 117, the U-2, and the current Mach 10 plus Aurora. What the protesters were objecting to was not the military's privacy in testing the exotic weaponry, but rather secret experiments allegedly being conducted upon human beings in what the organizer, Anthony J. Hilder, referred to as "Frankenstein Factories" the actual "staging" of an INVASION FROM SPACE to panic the public into surrendering their national sovereignty and the development of bacteriological, biological, and chemical warfare weaponry to be used on unsuspecting civilian populations. Nevada's Nellis Testing Range, which is as large as the state of Rhode Island and encompasses Area 51, was the testing ground for the first atomic bomb. It is located 120 miles north of Las Vegas in a remote area of the high desert, along with what is now officially named the Extra Terrestrial Highway, and is home to consistent "sightings" of anti-gravational flying discs, most commonly referred to as U.F.O.'S Consequently, tens of thousands of hopeful U.F.O. aficionados have been lured to the area over the years to see and photograph the strange lights in the sky. Television crews from as far away as England, the Netherlands, France and Germany have shown up at Joe and Pat's LITTLE A "LE" INN" to get the latest scuttlebutt about the BLACK OP activities Hilder served as a guide and consultant for Japan's Asahi television network whose staff flew to the U.S. to film an introduction special for the X-FILES, which aired to 60 million across the island Empire. Robert Lazar, a scientist who worked as a reverse engineer at S4, nine miles south of the secret underground Groom Lake facility, claims that the military has nine captured alien flying craft that they have been analyzing and testing there for the past several years. This adds credence to the fact that the thousands who have witnessed sightings from the adjacent Tikaboo Valley weren't looking at "pie-in-the-sky" but rather manned alien aircraft or carbon-copies of "the real thing". Anthony J. Hilder meets with Blaine Heald and Bill Wagers, the District Manager of the Bureau of Land Management to discuss the 666 Rally. Hilder is furnishing copies of NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY to the boy at the BLM as part of the FREE WORLD ALLIANCE "Revelation 2000" program to educate government workers to the evils of the New World Order. What concerns Norio Hayakawa and Anthony J. Hilder, who initially started these protests on the same date last year, is the giant leap leftward towards a Global World-being directed by a Cabalistic Cartel whose agenda is the establishment of a Luciferian New World Order. Hilder and Hayakawa, who see Area 51 as a testing ground for future controlled "catastrophic" events, trace the source of the high-treasonous activities conducted there to individuals like Bush, Clinton, Kissinger and Gore who work through organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the privately owned Federal Reserve, the Trilateral Commission, the Skull Bones and the Club of Rome. They claim that this Cashist Cartel has taken control over Area 51's research facilities and plan to use the weaponry developed there to bring about One World Government. They charge that major government investigative agencies such as the C.I.A., D.l.A., l.S.A., N.S.A., F.B.I. and the Justice Department have been compromised and serve as willlng tools for the establishment of an Orwellian Evilarchy where truth, justice and the American Way would be conside red mere anachronisms of the past. One very credible individual featured in Hilder and Hayakawa's video presentation...THE PANIC PROJECT, accompanied by two young ladies, witnessed from a position approximately two miles from the protest site, what can best be described as a dress rehearsal for a "MOCK INVASION FROM SPACE". They believe that the "staged event" which continued for approximately one-hour and five-minutes and included some twenty-five or more anti-gravitiomal flying craft, will may well be repeated over a major American city to panic the population into accepting a One World Government if demonstrations such as these fail to draw
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The John-John Conspiracy
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/john-john.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/jfkjr.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/jfkblank.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/kthomas.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/ritual.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/anarchists.htm The John-John Conspiracy Robalini's Note: For The Komplete John-John Conspiracy Story, you must visit the site. Here is but a sampler. Richard Metzger of Disinformation ( http://www.disinfo.com ) wrote, concerning the JFK, Jr. death (and a nasty piece yours truly wrote on it, "Why JFK, Jr. Isn't the Victim of a Conspiracy"): Robert, Why are you so down on the guy??? It's very unseemly to kick a man when he's DEAD. Yours affectionately, Richard Well, Richard, it's a nasty job, but somebody has to do it. Do you think I like being the one who has to point out what a dumbass John-John was? Do you think I like being the one who had to point out that Mother Teresa was a fraud? Well I don't. OK, I'm lying. I REALLY, REALLY do enjoy it. But seriously, I must say that few have been rewarded as much as I have from the Kennedy family tragedy, so much that it's amazing I'm not a suspect in one of those wacky internet conspiracy theories. (Man, where do these people come up with this shit?) Still, to the credit of those internet investigators, they keep on coming up with some interesting facts to back up the claim of a supposed John-John conspiracy. The Konformist official position remains that JFK, Jr. was too much of a dumbass to be worth being killed by the power structure. Having said that, here are some theories and evidence that are contrary to that, and other amusing bits. Stay tuned. Much credit must go to The Konformist friend Ru Mills of the Rumor Mill News Agency ( http://www.rumormillnews.com ). Please visit her site and join her mailing list to get the latest goods from dear Ru. http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/kthomas.htm Thursday, July 22, 1999 01:51:22 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Battle of the JFK Jr. Conspiracy Theories By Kenn Thomas The news of JFK Jr.'s demise came to me while I was in Seattle, Washington lecturing on the JFK assassination. A friend commented that the Kennedy family had made a great sacrifice for the sake of publicizing my talk. He apologized later for the grim joke, but it had already served as a reminder that this lecture would have to be more sensitive than the last several. The lecture looks coldly at the Zapruder film, describing as objectively as possible mysterious aspects like the Umbrella man and his radio-controller companion, the direction of the shots, even the significance of the dying president's flailing arms. From repeated practice, the lecture puts distance between these details and the emotional reaction that accompanies such a graphic presentation of a brutal murder and also from its personal context for many Americans. That became less possible on the weekend that JFK Jr. had suffered an early and brutal end like his father. The news would re-ignite passions about the assassination and, as it turned out, the crowd was especially attentive and alert. Many questions were asked about the possibility of conspiracy in the death of JFK's son. By then, of course, several competing theories had arisen, and my friend's tasteless joke became tame by comparison. The first to reach me, courtesy of Jim Martin of Flatland Magazine, was that the Kennedy family had suffered a curse of water. John, Jr.'s plane had crashed into water, just as Joseph Kennedy, Jr. died in a flight over water during World War II. John Kennedy's PT 109 was on the water; Ted Kennedy drove off bridge into water at Chappaquiddick. (JFK Jr's flight took off from Caldwell, NJ, whose only significant alum was Chappaquiddick's Mary Jo Kopechne) That JFK Jr.'s death came on the 30th anniversary of Chappaquiddick, of course, escaped little notice; neither did the anniversary of the downing of Flight 800. The "water theory" started silly and got worse, eventually betraying a partisan bias. It also held that Michael Kennedy's fatal skiing accident involved snow, a form of frozen water, and concluded that the Democrats will soon propose legislation banning water. The theory to take seriously, however, argued that John F. Kennedy, Jr. had plans to run for the senate seat in New York and threatened the campaign of either Hilary Clinton or Rudolph Guiliani In the first scenario, the death of John Kennedy Jr. becomes the latest in a long line of deaths connected to the Clinton administration, an anomalous list that has circulated among conspiracy theorists for many years. Reported marriage tension between the Clintons in the wake of the Lewinsky affair, however, casts that theory in doubt. The second view, the Guiliani theory, holds that the plane crash was sabotage
[CTRL] OEN 7/26/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From Tao Te Ching The Master doesn't try to be powerful; thus he is truly powerful. The ordinary man keeps reaching for power; thus he never has enough. The Master does nothing, yet he leaves nothing undone. The ordinary man is always doing things, yet many more are left to be done. . . . When the Tao is lost, there is goodness. When goodness is lost, there is morality. Whe morality is lost, there is ritual. Ritual is the husk of true faith, the beginning of chaos. Therefore the Master concerns himself with the depths and not the surface, with the fruit and not the flower. He has no will of his own. He dwells in reality, and lets all illusions go. = Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia RAF Points Finger at U.S. Intelligence 11-week bombing did almost no damage to Serb forces Serious failings in intelligence, training, weapons and other hardware lay behind NATO's disappointing performance in Kosovo, according to extracts from a British Royal Air Force study seen by the London Sunday Telegraph. Intelligence reports about Serbian troop and equipment locations took up to three days to reach front-line attack squadrons, by which time the Serbs had changed position. Many pilots found themselves "bombing old tank tracks" or civilians as a result, the document says. U.S. intelligence "bureaucracy" is blamed. Secure communications were sometimes inadequate, meaning vital information could not be passed to RAF attack units for fear of the Serbs hearing it. NATO believes the Serbs may even have intercepted some transmissions. Several RAF Harrier pilots had never practiced dropping live laser-guided bombs before the Kosovo crisis, the paper says. They dropped their first bombs only in combat. Some of the weapons developed "unexpected and extremely difficult" characteristics in flight, making it harder than anticipated to drop them accurately. There are also fears that none of the NATO air forces -- apart from the United States -- has all-weather precision weapons of the type deemed necessary to avoid undue civilian casualties. RAF laser-guided bombs, although precise, cannot cope well with bad weather and smoke. The draft paper, compiled by a senior RAF commodore closely involved in the bombing campaign, is a contribution to a British Ministry of Defense study into the lessons of Kosovo. Commanders have been asked to submit final papers by September. The exercise has been given greater urgency by evidence that the 11-week NATO bombing campaign did almost no damage to Serbian forces in Kosovo. Even the widely quoted Serbian figure of just 13 tanks destroyed by NATO may be an overestimate, ministry insiders admitted. The true figure is believed to be closer to seven. Political factors, such as the slow start to the air campaign, the reluctance to permit low-level flying, and some governments' wish to approve all targets at ministerial level, are blamed indirectly in the paper, but the document appears reluctant to criticize politicians directly. One senior RAF officer at the Defense Ministry said: "NATO did all right on the strategic level (targets such as command centers, bridges and telecommunications buildings) but exceptionally badly on the tactical level (such as tanks and groups of soldiers). "We were fighting under very serious political constraints about low flying and collateral damage, but much of the infrastructure and equipment we had to work with didn't do us any favors." Some of the precision weapons that the RAF lacked are already on order. The Sunday Telegraph has learned that the RAF is highly likely to be allowed the American JDAM missile, the most sophisticated precision-guided weapon available, but previously rejected by Britain on grounds of cost. Other problems will be more complicated to resolve. The delays that made intelligence on Serbian forces "days behind" real events are blamed on the Americans, whose spy satellites, drones and aircraft mostly supplied the raw material. "Everything had to be exhaustively processed and analyzed through this bureaucratic American intelligence machine, and it took far too long," said one RAF officer. "By the time target information came down to us the targets were often no longer there." The aerodynamic characteristics of some newer weapons will also need to be studied closely, the paper says. The most sensitive question will be the issue of political interference -- which Ian Duncan-Smith, the Conservatives' defense spokesman, blamed for many of the failures of the bombing campaign in Serbia and Kosovo. "From this report it is clear that the military seem to have been fighting with one hand tied behind their back because of restrictions by politicians and bureaucrats," he said. The Washington Times, July 26, 1999 Spy
[CTRL] [6a] AmericaÕs Dreyfus Affair
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola It is a crime to lead public opinion astray, to manipulate it for a death-dealing purpose and pervert it to the point of delirium. I have said it elsewhere and I repeat it here: if the truth is buried underground, it swells and grows and becomes so explosive that the day it bursts, it blows everything wide open along with it. -- Emile Zola Americas Dreyfus Affair, Part 6 by David Martin The Reign of the Lie It was a Wednesday night in the late summer of 1998 at the mausoleum-like headquarters for Americas information commissariat in Washington, DC, the National Press Club building. Deputy White House Counsel Vincent W. Foster, Jr., had now been dead more than five years, and in spite of three official investigations of his July 20, 1993, violent death, all heavily involving the FBI, and some Congressional pecking around the edges often represented as investigations as well, the evidence of homicide as opposed to the official verdict of suicide was as strong as ever. But in the dominant hollow terminology of the time and the place, most of the nations citizenry, we were given to believe, had achieved "closure" over this matter, and many other very serious things of a highly-suspicious nature as well, and were satisfied to "get on with their lives." The gathering was the periodic meeting of an odd mixture of the civic-minded, policy junkies, and likely government agents, replicating in the flesh what one sees on Internet news groups. Officially, it is called the Sarah McClendon Study Group, after the hostess of the meetings, the doyenne of the Washington press corps who, as she does periodically, had reserved the room for the occasion. On this evening the guest speaker is another grande dame of the Washington press, long-time chief UPI Washington correspondent, Helen Thomas, speaking on the timely impeachment issue. Assiduous Foster-case researcher, Hugh Turley, and I are there not only to hear what Ms. Thomas has to say but also to see to it in the question-and-answer period that larger issues dont get overlooked by the 20-odd attendees. We managed to get our points in. Mine, picking up on Ms. Thomas remark that President Clinton remains quite popular with women, was that he would likely not be if the numerous allegations of thuggish intimidation of various of his actual or would-be paramours had been properly reported to the American people by the American press. Turleys was that Kenneth Starr is a good deal less upright than we are given to believe, and the beliefs about his rectitude persist only because the American press has failed to report on the lawsuit against several members of his "investigative" team for witness intimidation. Ms. Thomas, who comes across in person as every bit as much a Clinton partisan as news magazine reporters and TV celebrities Eleanor Clift or Margaret Carlson, was immediately hostile to my suggestion and, perceiving an "enemy" of Starr as a friend, was initially quite receptive to Turley. By the time Turley revealed that he was talking about the Foster case and t he lawsuit of Patrick Knowlton, Ms. Thomas had agreed to review carefully a copy of the addendum to Starrs report on Foster that the three-judge panel had forced Starr to include in his report on Foster. In the process she had had to shush a couple of men in the back of the room who knew right off the bat where Turley was headed and had tried to prevent him from getting there. Turleys real main point, as was mine, was a truly heretical one to make in such a place, that is, that there is major news suppression in the country. That point was most vociferously challenged by a large, blond fortyish man in the back--one of the shushees--who really didnt like the use of our word "suppression" one bit. Wielding the authority of one who claimed to have worked for Ted Koppels Nightline and for ABC News for many years, he staked his objection upon what seemed to me the pedantic point that suppression requires conscious, collective agreement not to report something that is newsworthy, and if we had no proof of that we were irresponsible to sling around the charge of "news suppression." After the meeting formally ended, we continued our discussion of this point in private. Attempting to get around the collective-action prerequisite, I asked him if he would consider the actions of The Washington Post alone in the Tommy Burkett case "news suppression." "No," he responded, "just sloppiness." "How can you say that? What do you know about the Burkett case, anyway?" I shot back. "I know
[CTRL] [6b] AmericaÕs Dreyfus Affair
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Americas Dreyfus Affair, Part 6 -cont- Did the government people simply withhold the information from the press? Anyone who could even entertain the idea has no notion of the cozy relationship that exists between the White House, especially Bill Clintons White House, and the national press, The Washington Post in particular. But theres no reason to speculate. This passage comes from a very important op ed piece, "Vincent Foster: Out of His Element," by Arkansas native, Walter Pincus, in the August 5, 1993 Post: "Near midnight that Tuesday at the Foster home in Georgetown, I sat in the garden with a few of his Arkansas friends for half an hour." Pincus doesnt say what time he arrived, but the police, on the record, were there from shortly after 10 to sometime after 11 (In fact, the police in all likelihood were there even longer, arriving sometime before 10. The later arrival time presumes they went to the morgue first to search for Fosters car keys again in his pants, an almost certain untruth.). He surely would have known that the police were not "turned away," let alone by Foster family attorneys. Then we have this from White House attorney Jane Sherburne of Sherburne and Nemetz, prepared on May 16, 1996: "[Mickey] Kantor had been with Vernon Jordan and David Gergen at Ben Bradlees house when David got the news about Foster. They all wound up at Fosters house." As you might have suspected, Gergen, we see, wasnt just repeating what someone had told him, he was simply lying when he agreed that the police were turned away. Not only did he know it, but The Posts Bradlee very likely knew it as well, and notice how well this little gathering illustrates what we have just observed about the coziness between The Post and the White House. So, the president, the police, and the press knew that the police did not wait nine days to talk to family members about Fosters death, as had been widely reported as fact and was not contradicted for a year. What of it? Wouldnt the loved ones have been too emotionally wrought up to have been of much help to the authorities? To be sure there are those who would want us to believe that, though even if it were true, it does not excuse the bald-faced lie told the public. True or not, it is what Clinton lawyer Jane Sherburne was peddling as late as May of 1996. Here she summarizes some of the doings of White House aide, David Watkins, that fateful evening: It took ten or fifteen minutes to drive to the house. When they arrived, no one else was there. They walked up to the house; the police officers, who insisted on doing the official notification themselves, walked ahead, with Watkins right behind them. As they went up the steps, another group of people, including Webb Hubbell and Fosters sister, came up behind them. They entered the house and Mrs. Foster came down the steps. The male officer told them that Foster had committed suicide. Mrs. Foster became hysterical; she could not possibly have been interviewed. Perhaps Ms. Sherburne can claim simple ignorance, thereby admitting incompetence. If not, what we have here is another conscious lie. The following is from Rollas public testimony almost a year before, on July 20, 1995: Some people were not approachable. We tried to talk to different people. We talked to--I think we talked briefly to both sisters. I had more of a rapport with Mrs. Foster, so I talked to her. Cheryl talked to Laura, the daughter. The sons werent home. We talked to Mr. Watkins. Other than that, we didnt talk to anyone else there. Well, now, lets try taking Rolla at his word on this. They talked only briefly with Sheila Anthony and Sharon Bowman, and only Ms. Braun talked with the daughter, while the only other person Rolla talked to was Lisa Foster, with whom he developed a "rapport." Yet he writes in his report that he was there for more than an hour. What was he doing all that time, eating hors doeuvres? The first twenty-four hours after a crime has been committed are crucial. If it is not essentially solved within that period, the chance that it will ever be solved falls drastically. The Park Police obviously know that, which is why they did their proper police work and no doubt wrung as much information out of the immediate relatives of the victim as they could. Then why would they be party to this gigantic, apparently gratuitous lie that they did not? In "Dreyfus 1" I speculated that one reason might be that they didnt hear what they wanted to hear from the family concerning Vinces "depression," his inclination toward suicide. Rolla did say in his report, after all, that no one present could think
[CTRL] Hackers, Cyberpunks, and the Apocalypse
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Hackers, Cyberpunks, and the Apocalypse by Randy Danneskjöld Cyberpunk literature is nothing less than the epic texts of a radical new philosophy of life, the universe and everything. In his book Hackers, Steven Levy has commented on what he calls the hacker ethic - a loosely identified set of beliefs that he can't seem to quite put his finger on precisely, but which pervades hacker communities everywhere. You might find these statements puzzling. What do bits dancing around in electronic circuits have to do with weighty questions of ethics and metaphysics? As it happens, plenty. Life, The Universe and Everything Life, to a hacker, is an integral part of hacking. Life is a laboratory, a place to experiment, shake things up, fiddle with the system till something interesting pops out. No other class of human beings could as a general rule have this much detachment towards their own individual fortunes and misfortunes, except perhaps professional religious ascetics. Every life experience is, to a hacker, just that. An experience - a rich source of information - of intel. He will take it apart, analyze it, get exalted and paranoid over it in turns, to experience it from every angle. Then he will break it right down to its basic educative points, remember those and forget the rest. Remember also that the present generation of hackers, most in their late teens or early twenties, and even the 'oldies' still around, have lived through probably the most dramatic, turbulent phase of human and technological history. Rapid change and an almost bizarre variety of experience is normal. Who better to comment on life in today's technosaturated world than those who are most at home in it? Further, hackers are quite used to playing God. When you're in control of a powerful piece of computing machinery, you're in control of a little universe, with its immutable laws and (if it's a real hackers' computer) a multitude of complex information systems in constant, dynamic interaction. You have the power to create structures and systems of arbitrary complexity, limited only by your own imagination and level of technological mastery. Who better to speculate on the nature of the Universe than someone whose life has been a virtual SimUniverse game since as far back as he1 can remember? Computer programmers are also the greatest generalists since Da Vinci. The core tasks of programming are, as any hacker will tell you, problem-domain independent, and a good hacker can tackle programming jobs in any field. Every competent hacker who's worked on more than a few projects has surely developed highly effective techniques for quickly extracting and representing all the relevant information required to achieve his goals in most any system or situation. "Specialization is for ants" is a favorite hacker slogan. Who better to make grand statements about everything than someone who knows how to instantly specialize in anything? Add to all that the typical hacker's natural curiosity about everything, his unquenchable thirst for higher levels of knowledge and expertise, his sophisticated ability to access, process and analyze information, and you have the makings of a great philosopher. And an opinionated one. Most hackers have very strong views on practically any topic, which they can articulate brilliantly and defend with all the right arguments and references. Making life especially uncomfortable for those who derive their spiritual upliftment and enlightenment from Saturday newspaper supplements and TV talk shows, a hacker will never stand by silently and allow inaccuracy to go unchallenged. The easiest way to recognize the hacker at a dinner party - he's the guy who listens intently and doesn't say a word, except for frequently interjecting 'Not true' and lapsing back into smug silence. He really does believe he has all the answers to life, the universe and everything. The Hacker Ethic So what is the hacker ethic? What is this common ethical philosophy that all hackers above a certain level of sophistication subscribe to? Free software, free markets, and a free society would probably top the list. The hacker way of life generally couples basic humanity with a healthy appreciation of the value of minding one's own business (what could be more interesting anyway?). Hackers usually combine a very benevolent live-and-let-live attitude with a very strong emphasis on personal responsibility and individual effort. Taking the initiative and the risks is almost universally accepted amongst hackers as the only route to the big time2. Most talented hackers are gentle, friendly creatures with a versatile sense of
[CTRL] [4a] Viet Nam - John Kennedy, Playing in the Sandbox
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Viet Nam Part 4: John Kennedy, Playing in the Sandbox by Robert L. Kocher For many of us the Kennedy presidency came at the time when we were in the prime of youth. I will always look back upon that period with great fondness for I was in my 20s and would be invincible forever. Kennedy's death happened to occur at a time when we were scheduled to make the transition out of our youth. There has been an unconscious tendency for many people to idealize the period, to blame Kennedy's death as having been the cause of that transition to adulthood, and to suppose if Kennedy had remained president we somehow would not have had to leave our young world as it existed at that time. There was also an unconscious tendency to make Republican presidential candidate Goldwater, and to a lesser extent Lyndon Johnson, the target of unconscious resentment over loss of our youth. This muddled, and still muddles, the conception of the politics and events of that period. But, when Bobby Kennedy was running for the presidency, his supporters began to make what was for them a horrifying observation. Bobby was beginning to develop gray hair and look older. It had to happen--to all of us. For many of us the world would never be the same after John Kennedy died. What doesn't seem to be understood and accepted is that the world would still never have been the same if he had lived. Time marches on. Several years ago, upon returning to the town where I spent my teenage years, I was saddened to find the old hamburger drive-in that had been the teen meeting place for many years, and had the memories of what had once been twenty thousand high school kids invested in it, was gone and replaced with a shopping center parking lot. It wasn't gone because of Kennedy's death or Viet Nam. It was gone because that's the way life is. It's part of the sadness of growing older. It was the end of picnics on the beach and picking up dates at the girl's dorm. It was the beginning of the time when some of us would make the personal mistakes that would mean the end of our dreams and innocence. Kennedy's death became a spiritual marker for many of us. It happened to accidentally coincide with the passage of a period we will forever look back upon with longing. However, it is a mistake to let one's longing for the period be confused with a belief in the Kennedy Presidency. Many people confuse the two. Many members of the Kennedy administration are still around and continue to write books idealizing Camelot. For many of them association with the Kennedy period will have been the only significant event in their life, and in magnifying Kennedy they magnify their own significance. The Kennedy public relations corps, living in its idealized memories, as well as its political commitment, continues to be active. It plays into a wishfulness and nostalgia. For this, and other reasons, there are people who will continue to view Kennedy as a god until their final moments and nothing will change it. It has become a sacrilege to view Kennedy realistically. In the media and the bastions of liberalism, criticism of the Kennedys evokes postures of melodramatic horror which induces panic within the suggestible segment of the public. The Reality of the Kennedy Presidency Kids, we can survive the supposed horror and it is about time we did. It's a necessity to understand the Viet Nam war--and a great many other things. I an aware that the recent book by Seymour Hersh and several other books preceding have documented ugly aspects of Jack Kennedy's personal life. Little in the way of concrete events will be added here. It is not my intent to cash in on what has been said by repeating it for reader titillation. My concern, here, is that reasonable interpretation of what is known points to a condition of the presidency that was far more serious than even these highly critical investigators are inclined to conclude. Their interest was one of investigating and cataloging, not inference. The interest here is the condition of the presidency and its impact on foreign policy, including the war. To paraphrase a series of catchy lines started by Lloyd Bentsen in the 1988 presidential debates: I remember John Kennedy and believe me, John Kennedy was no John Kennedy. The idealization of John Kennedy has had a stranglehold on this country for more than thirty-five years. My political involvement began during the Nixon-Kennedy debates. As might be imagined, I was much younger then. I was a college student. Until the Nixon-Kennedy debate, I had no interest in politics. My political conversion came as Kennedy was speaking. The other guy sitting
[CTRL] The Bill-of-Rights for President
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola The Bill-of-Rights for President An Interview with L. Neil Smith by Alberto Mingardi It is a commentary on Bill Clintons America that it takes a libertarian-anarchist to believe in Bill of Rights enforcement, including the Second Amendment rights of gun owners. L Neil Smith is a campaigner against Big Brother government who is willing to boldly hack away at the statist empire fed and nourished by recent "New World Order" presidents like George Bush and Bill Clinton, presidential-wanna-bes like Al Gore and George Bush, Jr., and others of their ilk. Answering the question "who is a libertarian" some time ago, science-fiction writer (Probability Broach, Pallas) L. Neil Smith said that "a libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim." (Oh, dont get the wrong idea. Libertarians dont initiate force. But they will damned well defend themselves against someone who does.) According to this definition, Smith is of course a libertarian, a strong libertarian and anarchist whos been fighting against the State for more than twenty years. Turning 53 next year, Neil is now starting his new last journey: a campaign for White House in 2000 against the "bipartisan ticket" of George Bush Jr.-Al Gore and, maybe, the minarchist libertarian Harry Browne also. Neils program is simple: "Bill of Rights enforcement", as hes preaching on his e-magazine, The Libertarian Enterprise ( http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/index.html, the Liberty of this Benjamin Tucker of the 21st Century. Smith is not new to political campaigns: in 1978 he ran for the Colorado legislature. About this experience, in a previous interview with The Laissez Faire City Times (http://zolatimes.com/V2.16/neilsmith.html), he said, "I ran openly as an anarchist, concentrating on telling people what everyday life would be like without the burden of taxation and regulation. I was the only candidate that season who elicited any kind of reaction from the audience." Were sure that this time, too, Neil will give the people something to remember, dressed in his "leather jacket -- no necktie" and jeans. Looking at Neils new (crazy?) adventure, I cant help recalling Kiplings old verses: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with triumph and disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools; If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; (...) Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son! Neil, a campaign for White House: what are the conditions under which you might run for the President of the United States in 2000? If those who want me to do it will collect 1,000,000 petition signatures to convince me I'm not wasting everybody's time and energy, I'll run for President of the United States in the year 2000 as an independent. In fact, my friends will actually be collecting 2,000,000 signatures, just to make sure. This allows me a personal indulgence. Why as an independent and not a Libertarian Party candidate? Whether I'd refuse the nomination of the Libertarian Party, which I joined in 1972 . . . (I've learned only recently of a group who want to draft me as the LP candidate for President.) I believe the LP has reached a point where, if I were to walk into its convention with a million petition signatures, or five million, or ten million, the clique that owns the party would still find an excuse to reject my candidacy. But if the laws of physics and human nature were repealed and the LP membership did ask me to be their candidate, after all these years, I couldn't find it in my heart to say no. Why are you doing this now? Let me remember some moments of my life: Decades ago, when I was my nine-year-old daughter's age, I calculated that I'd be 53 years old when the year 2000 arrived. I envisioned a brilliant, colorful future, based on the science fiction I was reading and
[CTRL] [4b] Viet Nam - John Kennedy, Playing in the Sandbox
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.30/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 30 /A - Laissez Faire City Times July 26, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 30 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Viet Nam - John Kennedy, Playing in the Sandbox (-cont-) Back to School The Reeves essay borders on the hilarious, and yet is very serious. It could have been made into a movie. There was a Rodney Dangerfield movie comedy called Back to School (1986). In it, Dangerfield plays a middle-aged millionaire who goes to college to get the education he missed. He doesn't want to get involved with the classwork, so he hires people from the Rand Corporation and dozens of others to do his papers and classwork for him. In the end, Dangerfield gets caught at it, and is made to pass a tough oral examination before an academic panel of several deans or whatever to graduate, but passes after an intense period of study. The Kennedy story is similar, except for the ending, but is real. A 23 year-old kid with a history of getting C grades in easy courses during his earlier years at Harvard writes, with considerable help, a paper which is judged to have serious deficiencies. Professionals are brought in to make the thing into a book. People are bought and sold with whatever money it takes. It still isn't worth a damn. The kid's father buys 35,000 copies the first week of publication to make it a best seller. The kid is awarded Magna Cum Laude and graduates from Harvard. He never gets caught, and the kid's father spreads enough money around to see that nobody looks too hard. Unlike Dangerfield in the movie, Kennedy slides by without the necessity of ever really passing on his own merit, then goes on to con his way into the presidency. The entire project is an exercise in massive dishonesty and fraud by everybodythe kid, the kid's father, university faculty, and anybody else that can be bought, cajoled, or pressured. Without a trace of embarrassment John Kennedy claimed the work to be entirely his own, and was warped and spoiled enough to have believed it. At this point, John Kennedy, a kid from a political family that had eventual designs on the presidency had positioned himself as a political aspirant who was a graduate with high honors from a prestigious school, a certified intellectual, and a best-selling author. Harvard degree with great praise, an author, an intellectual; it looked good on paper, but the reality is that there was no substance to any of it. It was entirely fraudulent. The truth is, the kid was not very bright and was barely literate. As reported in the Reeves book, his tutors at Harvard evaluated him as someone who would never show much originality. Kennedy would always take pride in the intellectual content of his book. The basic reason he could do so is that he didn't have the intellect to realize how poor it was. There are four elements here that would become a pattern throughout Kennedy's life, including his presidency. First, no morality or ethics would ever be evidenced by Kennedy in his life. He could do anything, say anything, or lie about anything without a trace of concern. Second, he exhibited a pattern of a basically deficient man who would buy (or attempt to buy) his way out of responsibility. Third, is the point Harold Laski partially made to Kennedy's father. Close examination of Kennedy would show superficiality and vacancies of mentality for the remainder of his life. There was an absence of content. Any person of intellectual stature would perceive it immediately, as did Laski, as did Eisenhower, as did Khrushchev two decades later. In ordinary interactions with men of stature, Kennedy would be dismissed as a slick kid trying to work a confidence game, even at the age of thirty or forty. He would never be taken seriously by men of depth and perception throughout his life. Kennedy's performance in the presidential debates would require large doses of Dramamine to suppress the nausea felt by any intelligent listener. Fourth, and importantly to the point, there comes a point when money and deception won't work, and substance is required. It is possible to buy elections, to get through school by cheating, or to get into positions by deception and image manipulation. However, if the time comes when a person needs to actually function with intelligence, needs judgment, needs depth, and needs education, needs grit, and needs experience, then having faked it in the past won't get that person through. That means trouble. The bigger the position of responsibility the person has manipulated and cheated himself into, the bigger the trouble, for everybody. In Over His Head Kennedy cheated and manipulated himself into the presidency while having faked the qualifications. He was in far over his head. Khrushchev would, in an indirect way, tell him that.
[CTRL] [2] EIR on British gold war vs. Africa - correct version.
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Sorry, but I sent two copies of part one. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:539872"EIR on British gold war vs. Africa Pt. II /A - Subject: EIR on British gold war vs. Africa Pt. II From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 July 1999 04:22 PM EDT Message-id: 7nfrmr$7ok$[EMAIL PROTECTED] TONY PAPERT: Another sign that the financial elites think that their system has a very short life ahead of it, is the huge attrition among finance ministers and officials in charge of monetary affairs in advanced countries. RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes. Well, when Robert Rubin said he was not going to re-hitch up on July 1st and he was leaving, Lyndon LaRouche said "Well, this is a case of the ships leaving the sinking rats." (Laughter.) I think that's probably true. TONY PAPERT: Maybe Greenspan. RICHARD FREEMAN: Maybe Greenspan. But then, -- TONY PAPERT: Gore had said he's going to reappoint Greenspan, by the way. We may have said that -- RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes, and so has Lindsey (ph), Larry Lindsey, the spokesman for Bush. So we can both see what the Intelligence Quotient of those people are -- (laughter) -- and why people need to absolutely elect Lyndon LaRouche president. But Eisuke Sakakibara left. He was the deputy finance minister in Japan, known as "Mr. Yen," always spoke out on international financial questions. And he told the {Australian Financial Review,} he said "Look, the reason I'm leaving, is I expect a Wall Street crash." and this is absolutely remarkable, for a finance minister -- we suspected that. But for him then to say that, is to confirm that the people who know the real shape of the financial system, are getting out, which again raises the question of the need to change policy direction right now, not to be afraid of this financial crisis, but adopt the type of solutions LaRouche has put out for getting out of it. TONY PAPERT: Right. You're listening to "EIR Talks," and we'll be back in just a moment. TONY PAPERT: Welcome back to "EIR Talks." It's Wednesday, July {EIR} economics writer Rich Freeman and {EIR} Africa editor Linda de Hoyos. Linda, Richard was speaking about the declines in standard of living, especially food consumption, joblessness, in Latin America. The Ibero-Americans themselves often refer to this as the "Africanization of South America." What is the situation now in Africa? LINDA DE HOYOS: Well, what has happened in Africa, is essentially that a lot of the levels of austerity that countries are beginning to go through now, or over the last year: Indonesia, South America, countries in South America, countries in Southeast Asia, Russia -- these are levels of austerity that Africa went through in the mid-1980s. TONY PAPERT: My God. LINDA DE HOYOS: That is, about 15 years ago. And there has been no improvement since that time. In the 1980s, most African countries were put through what is called a "Structural Adjustment Program" (SAP) of the International Monetary Fund. And this meant that they had to lay off many government workers, and most of the health services of African countries collapsed at this point. There was massive unemployment, food subsidies were eliminated, and also subsidies for the production of food were eliminated, and many African countries then had to turn to food imports. And at the same time, the terms of trade of African countries has dropped more precipitously than any other region of the world. That is to say, that the terms of trade for coffee, tea, cocoa, diamonds, gold -- all of these different commodities have absolutely collapsed, at least by one-third if not more. And the African countries had debts. So the International Monetary Fund was forcing devaluations. They were -- say, for example, if you're exporting -- if you're spending 15% of your government revenue and export earnings on debt service in the early 1980s, for most African countries, this was going t up to levels of 25%, 30%, 40%, 50% or more. And in the northern African countries of Algeria, in particular, and Egypt, this was even higher. In Algeria, the debt service ratio to export earnings was 75%. The same with Nigeria: the debt service went up way higher. So, that also means that they have to export a lot more. So they are forcing people to come out of food production into production for export. And this has created what I call a "vacuum cleaner effect," that everything is just being sucked right out of the country. And the effect of this, was a takedown of national economies, and a takedown of all government services. So that today, for example, in Niger, which is a very poor country in the world today, there is one doctor for 70,000 people, which really means that there is no health care. There's no medical care whatsoever. And, under conditions where there is
[CTRL] Handbook of Texas Online: STILLMAN, JAMES
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dstdb=handbook; doc_id=4662query=american+national+bank+austin A HREF="http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dstdb=han dbookdoc_id=4662query=american+national+bank+austin"Handbook of Texas Online: STILLMAN, JAMES /A- STILLMAN, JAMES (1850-1918). James Stillman, son of Elizabeth Pamela (Goodrich) and Charles Stillman,qv was born on June 9, 1850, at Brownsville, Texas. He took over his father's financial and mercantile empire in New York, Texas, and Mexico in 1872 and turned it into the controlling interest in the National City Bank in New York and the most powerful force in the development of the Rio Grande valley. He greatly expanded the interests in Texas that he inherited from his father. His Texas holdings included the bonds of sixteen banks; control of land-development companies in the lower Rio Grande valley,qv Corpus Christi, and Kerrville; an interest in the Swenson Ranch; and, with the other three members of the "Big Four"- W. H. Harriman, Jacob Henry Schiff,qv and William Rockefeller-control of most Texas railroads. The Big Four served as directors under his chairmanship on the board, put together by Stillman, of the National City Bank. They controlled the Texas and Pacific, the Southern Pacific, the International-Great Northern, the Union Pacific Southern, the St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico, and the Mexican National, which ran from Corpus Christi to Mexico City and from the St. Louis, Brownsville and Mexico terminus on the border at Brownsville to the Mexican capital. In 1876 Stillman supported the successful Revolution of Tuxtepec, conducted by Mexican general Porfirio Díaz from Brownsville, which resulted in the overthrow of the Mexican government. Díaz's partisans called themselves the "railroaders." During the fighting Stillman purchased 100 percent of the riparian rights to the Rio Grande at Brownsville and up the river for an indeterminate distance. He sold two-thirds interest in those rights to the Mexican National Railroad in the 1890s. In 1880 Stillman, his employee Thomas Carson, who was the mayor of Brownsville, James Belden, and other Brownsville men received the concession from the Mexican president for the railroad to be built from Matamoros to Monterrey, where Stillman and Belden had large investments. During the twentieth century Stillman's enormous properties along the border were developed and sold by the American Rio Grande Land and Irrigation Company of Mercedes, a confidential subsidiary of the National City Bank. Although Stillman's interests became global and he held more than 20 percent of the stock in the world's largest bank, he retained his father's $200,000 share in George W. Brackenridge'sqv San Antonio National Bank throughout his life. He used that and his father's long ties with Brackenridge to develop property in West Texas and Mexico. His heirs expressed surprise when Brackenridge's will returned the $200,000 to them; they had apparently lost track of it. Stillman's two daughters married sons of his lifelong close friend William Rockefeller, the chairman of the board of the Standard Oil Company. Stillman died on March 15, 1918, in New York City. BIBLIOGRAPHY: John K. Winkler, The First Billion: The Stillmans and the National City Bank (New York: Vanguard, 1934). John Mason Hart - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gore Quotes
-Caveat Lector- Is there something about being Vice President that makes you talk like this?... I certainly have a new target for the upcoming Presidential election here in the USA. And people used to make fun of Dan Quayle... "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." Al Gore "Democrats understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child." -- Vice President Al Gore "Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts." Vice President Al Gore "Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." Vice President Al Gore, 8/11/94 "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -- Vice President Al Gore, 9/15/95 "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy -- but that could change." Vice President Al Gore, 5/22/98 "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, that one word is 'to be prepared.'" Vice President Al Gore, 12/6/93 "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." Vice President Al Gore, 11/30/96Amen. See below "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." Vice President Al Gore "The future will be better tomorrow." Vice President Al Gore "We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world." Vice President Al Gore, 9/21/97 "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." -- Vice President Al Gore "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." Vice President Al Gore to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93 "We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a *part* of Europe." -- Vice President Al Gore (emphasis added by Gagler) "Public speaking is very easy." Vice President Al Gore to reporters in 10/95 "I am not part of the problem. I am a Democrat." Vice President Al Gore "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." -- Vice President Al Gore "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame." -- Al Gore "Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it." Vice President Al Gore, 5/20/96 "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." Vice President Al Gore, 9/22/97 "For NASA, space is still a high priority." Vice President Al Gore, 9/5/93 "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." Vice President Al Gore, 9/18/95 "The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Al Gore may or may not make." Vice President Al Gore "We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made." --Vice President Al Gore "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -- Vice President Al Gore "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system." -- Vice President Al Gore DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Le Metropole - The Cyberspace Cafe for Investors and Intellectuals
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/ A HREF="http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/"Le Metropole Cafe/A - Le Metropole The Cyberspace Cafe for Investors and Intellectuals Welcome to Le Metropole. It is a venue where investors and intellectuals from all over the world can meet to discuss the vibrant economic and financial issues of the day. Our theme is the French cafes of the early to mid 20th century, Le Moulin Rouge ( Pigalle ), Les Deux Magots ( St. Germain ), Le Flore ( St. Germain ), La Coupole ( Montparnasse ) and Brasserie Lipp ( St. Germain ). Paris was a place where artists, intellectual figures, public personalities, etc., all met to engage, share, and learn. Times have changed but the human craving for knowledge and association with the most fascinating minds and creators out there has not. The internet has made it possible for us to present economic and financial commentary via " The Minds of Le Metropole", an economic dream team, and for you to be able to interact with others about this commentary. Our team of authoritative experts will focus on: U. S. Financial Markets , World Financial Markets, Asia, Gold ( commodities ) and International Events that affect these markets. The Minds of Le Metropole The roster of the economic dream team thus far are: From the National School of Statistics and Economic Studies in Paris, the Institut D'Etude Politiques, and the Masters Program in Pure Mathematics at the University of Paris, Eric Barande. Eric is well known in Europe as an independent strategist on economics and financial markets. Out of Manila and the San Francisco Art Institute, Greg Pickup. Greg, our market technician and author has been at the Chicago Board of Trade since 1979. He advises commercial grain and oilseed companies worldwide. John BrimelowFrom the University of London and the Business School at Stanford, John Brimelow. John is a notable, institutional stock broker with a vast information network and possesses a keen sense of the market significance of world events. From Lake Forest College in Illinois, Charles Peabody. Charles has been a bank analyst since 1981 and is a former II rated analyst in both money center and regional banks. As an independent in New York, he provides analysis unencumbered by bureaucracies and corporate pressures. Out of the undergraduate and graduate schools at Texas Christian University, David W. Tice. David, both a C.F.A. and C.P.A., manages the Prudent Bear mutual fund. His Dallas-based research firm advises more than 150 institutional investors. Out of Christchurch, New Zealand and the London School of Economics, Neville Bennett. Neville, a PhD., teaches " Japan and the World Economy " at the Canterbury Graduate School and writes a column for the prestigious National Business Review. In the Cafe you will find tables named after some of the well known celebrants of the by-gone Paris days. Here, food for thought will be served via posting forums in which you can present your own opinions and learn from others about the subjects of most interest to you. Le Metropole is a Cafe privé in the sense that membership is $149 per year (when fully opened) or $14 per month. So that you may learn if our Cafe is for you, we would like to extend to you a "two week free membership". Please note: Like a real Cafe, this is a soft opening. We are working out the kinks before we determine our final macro squad and open the entire Cafe with "Grande Premiere Mondiale". Therefore, our pre opening membership price is only $99 per year. Our address for inquiries and membership payments by mail is: Bill Murphy 4718 Cole Ave, #1203 Dallas, TX 75205 If you wish to take advantage of this opportunity: sign in with our maitre'd and come in and look around. Bon Appetit! Bill Murphy Cornell University, School of Hotel and Restaurant Administration Le Patron Yes cfid=671204cftoken=3905 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
[CTRL] Gold Anti Trust Action Committee
-Caveat Lector- from: a friend - Kris: Mighty interesting, I think... *** Senator Phil Gramm Senate Banking Committee 534 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, D.C. 20510 Attention: Madelyn Simmons From: Bill Murphy Chairman, Gold Anti Trust Action Committee Dear Senator Gramm, We thank Madelyn Simmons for taking the time to contact us, listening to what we have to say and for requesting our contentions in writing. It is with that spirit and understanding that I am writing this letter to you in behalf of the Gold Anti Trust Action Committee. I have a financial website, www.lemetropolecafe.com and write commentary about the gold market for the "Caf_". I am a veteran trader in the markets and it became apparent to me after the Long Term Capital Management bailout that the gold market was being manipulated and the manipulation was being carried out by various bullion dealers. The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, a non-profit Delaware corporation, was formed in January of this year to investigate this matter and we have retained one of the top anti-trust law firms in the U.S., Berger Montague out of Philadelphia, to assist us in our quest to learn the truth about what is really going on behind the scenes in the gold market. Because of the way in which the Bank of England sale was announced, we also suspect that the current administration ( perhaps the Federal Reserve or U.S. Treasury ) may be active in the gold market through a trading account at Goldman Sachs and, therefore, may have some role in the orchestration of a lower gold price. If our assessment is correct, this account is the responsibility of Mr. Peter Fisher of the New York Federal Reserve. The relationship between the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, Goldman Sachs and the Bank of England is strong and illuminating. Throughout this letter I will bring to your attention various news articles, press wire reports, statements by public officials and personal commentary that ties our suspicions and allegations together. I hope that you will see what we have here is quite the "duck" story -- in that it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc. GATA asks, that if you find this letter to be credible, your Committee investigate whether what looks like a duck indeed is a duck. Our findings are brought to you in the spirit of proud U.S. citizens that cherish democratic principles. For if our suspicions prove to be correct, those democratic principles are being cruelly trampled. The few people and institutions in the know in this scheme are gaining incredible riches at the expense of many. The manipulation of the gold price is destroying mining companies and their employees and shareholders as well as whole countries dependent on gold production. We suspect that what we have here is a scandal that is more profound in nature than "Watergate" because so many people are suffering unnecessarily, while, in a bigger picture sense, the manipulation could affect the stability of the banking system. We believe that to suppress the price of gold, the "collusion crowd" has borrowed so much gold from central banks and sold it into the market that it could not be paid back as promised should the price of gold rise quickly and unexpectedly. Last year the gold supply coming out of the mines was 2,529 tonnes. Later in this letter I will refer to a sophisticated study that indicates the gold borrowings were 8,000 tonnes two years ago and are even larger today. There was speculation last year that the investment banks that bailed out Long-Term Capital Management somehow assumed a 300-tonne gold position of the firm because the position was too large to be covered at the market. How would this same cabal help thousands of tonnes of gold shorts get out of the market in a pinch? Such a problem could result in a market calamity and cause great stress for banking institutions. That is why we believe these matters should be investigated by the Senate Banking Committee. Since last Fall I have been documenting what led my associates and me to believe that there has been a coordinated effort to hold down the price of gold But it was the Bank of England's announcement of its plans to sell gold that sent off alarm bells around the world. No other central bank has announced a gold sale prior to its completion in over 20 years, and the Bank of England's announcement just happened to be made as the gold price was storming past a key gold loan borrowing point and interest in the gold market was finally rising again. Gold share volume in various bourses was at its greatest levels in six years. It also appeared that a long- awaited gold rally was finally underway and the "collusion crowd" might finally be losing their grip on the market. Yet, the night before the BOE announcement ( May 6, 1999 ) , I feared duplicity, and this is what I wrote in my Midas du Metropole commentary entitled, "XAU surges 46%": "We know "the squad" are all lining up to try and
[CTRL] a bank joke (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Dear Bank Manager, I am writing to thank you for bouncing the check with which I endeavored to pay my plumber last month. By my calculations some three nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting the check, and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to honor it. I refer, of course, to the automatic monthly deposit of my entire salary, an arrangement which, I admit, has only been in place for eight years. You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account with $50 by way of penalty for the inconvenience I caused to your bank. My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has caused me to re-think my errant financial ways. You have set me on the path of fiscal righteousness. No more will our relationship be blighted by these unpleasant incidents, for I am restructuring my affairs in the second half of 1999, taking as my model the procedures, attitudes and conduct of your very bank. I can think of no greater compliment, and I know you will be excited and proud to hear it. To this end, please be advised about the following changes: First, I have noticed that whereas I personally attend to your telephone calls and letters, when I try to contact you I am confronted by the impersonal, ever-changing, pre-recorded, faceless entity which your bank has become. From now on I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh and blood person. My mortgage and loan repayments will, therefore and hereafter, no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank, by check, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee of your branch, whom you must nominate. You will be aware that it is an offense under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope. Please find attached an Application Contact Status which I require our chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there is no alternative. Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Justice of the Peace, and that the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course I will issue your employee with a PIN number which he/she must quote in all dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modeled it on the number of button presses required to access my account balance on your phone bank service. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Let me level the playing field even further by introducing you to my new telephone system, which you will notice, is very much like yours. My authorized contact at your bank, the only person with whom I will have any dealings, may call me at any time and will be answered by an automated voice. By pressing buttons on the phone, he/she will be guided thorough an extensive set of menus: 1. To make an appointment to see me 2. To query a missing repayment 3. To make a general complaint or inquiry 4. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there; Extension of living room to be communicated at the time the call is received; 5. To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am still sleeping. Extension of bedroom to be communicated at the time the call is received; 6. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature. Extension of toilet to be communicated at the time the call is received. 7. To transfer the call to my mobile phone in case I am not at home. 8. To leave a message on my computer. To leave a message a password to access my computer is required. Password will be communicated at a later date to the contact. 9. To return to the main menu and listen carefully to options 1 through 8. The contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service. While this may on occasion involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration. This month I've chosen a refrain from The Best Of Woody Guthrie: "Oh, the banks are made of marble With a guard at every door And the vaults are filled with silver That the miners sweated for" After twenty minutes of that, our mutual contact will probably know it by heart. On a more serious note, we come to the matter of cost. As your bank has often pointed out, the ongoing drive for greater efficiency comes at a cost. A cost which you have always been quick to pass on to me. Let me repay your kindness by passing some costs back. First, there is the matter of advertising material you send me. This I will read for a fee of $20 per page. Inquiries from your nominated contact will be billed at $5 per minute of my time spent in response. Any debits to my account, as, for example, in the matter of the penalty for the dishonored check, will be
[CTRL] Fwd: Pat Milton's New Book, In the Blink of an Eye (book review)
I received this book yesterday and I have dipped into it a bit and checked the index for some items. I would say it is a very good book for any of us to have - but not because it is the simple truth. Using Francis Bacon's categories, that some books are to be tasted, and others to be swallowed, and some to be chewed and digested, this one needs to be chewed and digested - but mainly because it is not the simple truth. Were it a simple account it could then be simply swallowed (read once instead of having its words pondered over) It is a little hard to get my stray thoughts put together quickly, but I will try to give some of my thinking about this book. With more time, and also a little more scanning of the book, I could write a good essay , but I should say right now, this is a resource. It is extremely useful as a frame of reference too. This book contains some facts I didn't know, and it is missing some important facts I do know, and it contains some assertions of fact I find extremely doubtful and others that are just plain wrong and there are some things in here that I had heard vaguely about where details are filled in (and makes the thing make sense) And there are a few places where I have a strong suspicion that she knows she is covering some things up (unless she wrote what some people wanted her to write without understanding why they wanted it) It contains some facts I didn't know: Some details about the airport delay are in this category or some claims of responsibility. It is missing facts I do know: The conversation about mistaken failure to match passengers and bags (there is a extra detail here about why - something about a tag but it is not cleart. Now for some specifics. Ian Goddard is mentioned 3 times in the index Two of those mentions simply link him with Pierre Salinger and the third is about Kallstrom saying that he had backed off from his theories. She calls Goddard a private investigator which I think he is not, since he never said anything like that. That claim might be a simple error as I cannot figure out how it would hep the FBI or diminish Goddard's credibility to say that. Perhaps she read somewhere about him being an "investigator" and misunderstood. While many erros in here probably have a purpose it could also be there are other errors i here soimply because the FBI and Kallstrom or the cover up people in general needed or referred someone who did not know too much - who didn't know much more than she was told and did not have a lot of curiousity that was not job-related. Victoria Cummock is not mentioned in the index and neither is Michael Forbes. PETN and explosive residue is not mentionbed in the index although it is in the book a lot. Traficant is mentioned and treated as an honest person. Questions he asked Kallstrom et al are quoted - and Kallstrom did not have good answers for them, a fact that does not seem to bother her. Traficant's reversal is not mentioned although it does indicate he stopped pursuing the TWA Flight 800 issue after one year. he date of the discovery of the PETN is put as August 7 when everything I read before was July 22. But hinking about this I realized that appearently the FBI must have staged its own "discovery" of this at Calverton. No other PETN disovery is mentioned nr the pressure washing. The location is changed from what I heard and the ETN and RDX put in the same location. The word Mafia appears a lot in the index but alost all the rreferences are to kallstrom's gight (and alleged successs) in the war against them. There are several full pages maybe on this. The world TradeCenter bombing gets a lot of space. Thurman of the FVBI crime lab is mentioned once. he gets only praise. The criticiosm of the FBI crime lab or what happened to him later is not mentioned. The story about Clinton ordering the reconstruction over the objections of the NTSB comes from this book. Panetta is mentioned in that connection. There are many things you can learn from the patterns of lying.
[CTRL] [Fwd: Fw: About August 11, 12, 13th 1999]
Just wanted to share this message from a friend of mine concerning the power that we as Humans may have over events that are coming to pass...tamre - Forwarded message -- From: lpollaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I have been wanting to post this for a few days...but keep getting distracted until this morning when I am compelled to pass this around. As you all know...those rituals at Giza for August the 11,12, 13th are being planned RIGHT NOW. We need to start our prayer plans now too! I thought it would be helpful...immenantly necessary to begin a cycle of prayer today to offset what they are doing in Egypt. They have members strategically placed at certain points all over the world also doing these rituals while the August rituals are going on. My idea was for us to all remember to pray to offset this every three hours6am, 9am, 12pm, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, 12am, 3am and 6am...again. If we do this according to our own time zones...we have prayer around the clock. Some of us believe that time is irrevalent...so the unity can be in spirit. I know it is probably that we might miss some of the times...but if we think of it and pray even if for a momentI am sure they will be heard. We need to start now and keep this up through August 18th when the comet or Cassini is to re-enter the atmosphere...whatever happens then. It is important in praying that we focus on love as the essential element and direct it toward not only the world...but to the Illuminati and persons involved doing the rituals...that they might find enlightenment in God's love. Pass this on to as many people as you can...and as many lists as possible. I believe that love and God are stronger than any negative or hosted operatives working for the dark side. We need to be united in this effort though.as this is a very critical time. Love to all, Linda (Cassie) P. ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
[CTRL] Fwd: To Pres. Congress re: JFK Jr MURDER
Hi-- This is the letter we are emailing to the president, vice-perpetrator and all members of Congress today, July 26, 1999. Unlike situations such as the downing of TWA Fl. 800 going all the way back to the murder of PRESIDENT John F. Kennedy, THIS TIME, there IS a BURNING HOT "SMOKING GUN". We MUST use this fact to the FORCE THE ISSUE NOW! Feel free to use this in your own emailings. This same exact letter can be used as an OPEN LETTER to the Pres. vice-perp and that bunch in Congress by emailing it to ALL RECIPIENTS on the mass media email list--included again by NewsHawk at the very end of THIS email. Best Wishes, John Quinn *** === Mr. President, Vice President, All Members of Congress-- It is increasingly clear John F. Kennedy Jr. was MURDERED. Please publicly address the contents of this FBI preliminary report (enclosed) and other evidence presented herein immediately.. We DEMAND an immediate investigation by all relevant branches of government into ANY and ALL ASPECTS of this most outrageous and extraordinary situation. Rest assured this issue will NEVER GO AWAY. AN AMERICAN === This email contains a number of articles. Scroll down to retrieve ALL INFORMATION. NewsHawk INC === http://www.sightings.com/politics4/blasted.htm WORLD EXCLUSIVE SIGHTINGS WORLD EXCLUSIVE FBI Document: BOMB BLASTED JFK's PLANE Says Skolnick By Sherman Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7-25-99 NOTE - Sherman Skolnick will be Jeff's Guest at 8 pm Pacific tonight What Happened to America's Golden Boy - Pt 4 By Sherman Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7-25-99 Excerpts from FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION PRELIMINARY REPORT ON THE RECOVERY OF PIPER SARATOGA AIRCRAFT OF JOHN F. KENNEDY, Jr. 1. No declassification until 7/22/2029. 2. This is in deference to the wishes of a senior member of the Kennedy family. 3. Also in deference to the order of the national government and in respect to certain foreign intelligence agencies having reciprocal agreements with the U.S. 4. POTUS order and national security findings attached. 5. The recovered aircraft shows evidence of an explosive device having been glued or affixed within the tail luggage compartment. 6. Device was apparently actuated by a barometric trigger. Radio signals not ruled out. 7. Tail of aircraft was dismembered from the plane making it front heavy. 8. Study of radar shows the plane fell in excess of 6,000 feet per minute up to radar cutoff. 9. Satellite images supplied by the National Reconnaissance Office record an outbursting flash from the aircraft just prior to it going into perpendicular descent. 10. Tail structure was dismembered just prior to descent. 11. Recovery of a piece of luggage from beyond the flight path of the aircraft correlates with it being hurtled out of the tail luggage compartment at outburst. 12. Preliminary examination of the aircraft shows residue of an explosive device the Laboratory identifies as being the type used by certain foreign intelligence agencies. Refer to POTUS order and findings. 13. Study of Air Traffic Control and other radio signals shows no Mayday report from the aircraft, explained by rapidity of descent. 14. Investigation and examination has been strictly compartmentalized. 15. A short, perfunctory examination of the recovered bodies was completed. Examination revealed that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was in third trimester pregnant, the fetus a boy. The four bodies were transferred to a senior member of the Kennedy family. The Bureau was not informed whether the bodies were actually cremated. Indirect advisories report that the bodies may have been shipped in untagged containers to foreign destinations. Reliable assets are to submit reports. END Recipients: America is under siege as of right now. Jeff Rense's broadcast tonight with Sherman Skolnick, on the contents of the leaked FBI document pinpointing an onboard bomb as the cause of the JFK Jr. plane crash, was temporarily yanked from the net in an UNPRECEDENTED move in the brief history of the Internet. Here is Jeff's reply to messages sent to him by NewsHawk saying "Where's the JFK Jr broadcast? Is everything smooth?," after the broadcast failed to come on for over 30 minutes. Apparently deciding that, as Jeff noted in this email to me, this action VALIDATES the content of the leaked report, "they" relented at about 8:37 PM and the show is now on. Note the time of Jeff's email--8:20 PM PDT. John Quinn NewsHawk Inc. Original Message Subject: Re: Broadcast re JFK Jr./Bomb Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:19:50 -0800 From:xxx To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'They' have cut the show off the net. Validates the material. Jeff Rense == 7.25.99 Recipients-- This portion of the FAA's OWN regulations regarding emergency procedures REQUIRED TO BE INITIATED, was CLEARLY AND UNILATERALLY
[CTRL] The best of the broadband apocalypse
-Caveat Lector- CTRL readers might be interested in Gonzo Links, bringing you links to the best of the broadband apocalypse. Think of it as your online guide to millennial America, including links to conspiracy, ufos, spooks, panic culture, and the usual suspects. http://members.tripod.com/gonzolinks Cheers, Lucio DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Radio Show: LOST HISTORY
THE EXPERT WITNESS RADIO SHOW WBAI New York City (99.5 FM-Tuesdays 7-8pm)) KPFK Los Angeles (90.7 FM) (Los Angeles: Roy Tuckman's "Something's Happening Show, rebroadcasts all Expert Witness Shows on Thursdays at 1: am) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-209-2800 (voice mail #2970) Host: Michael Levine, 25 Year veteran federal agent and author of NY Times bestseller "DEEP COVER" - "THE BIG WHITE LIE"(optioned for movie) -The fact-based thriller (now in paperback) THE TRIANGLE OF DEATH ("Compelling authenticity..." N.Y. Times ) HYPERLINKS A HREF="http://www.radio4all.org/expert"http://www.radio4all.org/expert/A- which includes many of the shows, taped and archived, books, photos and opinion articles. Shows may be downloaded free of charge. HEAR THE EXPERT WITNESS LIVE ON THE INTERNET: The EXPERT WITNESS show is now being broadcast on the Internet, live, on Tuesday Evenings, 7-8PM, New York City Time. Just hit: http://www.wbaifree.org. or Hear WBAI on the web at http://205.158.50.198/rams/wbai.ram or: www.realradio.org. Robert Parry, (editor of IF Magazine) the Associated Press journalist who was the only mainstream media journalist to "out" Oliver North for his documented involvement in protecting massive drug smuggling into the brains and veins of our children will be interviewed by Michael Levine, host of THE EXPERT WITNESS SHOW, about his new book: LOST HISTORY the history of how the "Monica Lewinsky Press Corps" diddled and our Congress fiddled, while the uncontrolled, unmonitored gang that can't spy straight edged us closer to Armagedon. (including the most recent and frightening events, barely noticed by mainstream media). Tune in and have your tape-recorders ready. You will want to pass this show on to your elected representatives. EXPERT WITNESS SHOW - FOR TUESDAY EVENING-LIVE ON THE INTERNET AND IN NEW YORK CITY ON 99.5 FM...7-8PM (NEW YORK TIME).
[CTRL] Fwd: FBI Document-Kennedy death
Recipients-- To clear up any confusion neither I nor my organization endorsed as genuine or true the material made public by Sherman Skolnick said to be a preliminary FBI report showing John Kennedy Jr. was murdered by means of an onboard bomb. To repeat: I never said I was endorsing what Skolnick released. I only noted that it was released and that whatever happened with Rense's show DID happen. I then felt that it is reasonable to present the information (along with that from other sources) to others AND to the clowns in government and media. Furthermore I NEVER SAID I believe it true or genuine--ONLY that it existed and that the bizarreness with the Rense broadcast DID occur. Jeff Rense indicated he believed the fact the broadcast was "yanked" validated the material. I didn't say that, he did. Let's see what "they" have to say about THE SOLID EVIDENCE we've pieced together, showing a clear trail of after-the-fact manipulation of news and information in the entire business. MAINLY, Kennedy was NOT in ANY kind of trouble AT ALL when he radioed the airport minutes before landing. Yet within seconds AFTER this, the REAL radar shows his plane dropped like a rock. This radio call occurred LATER in time than the subsequently "found" (RIGHT) radar data which supposedly "indicated" he was having control problems minutes BEFORE he made this all-important call. THAT'S why all mention of this radio contact was ERASED from mass media slop-news. I have posted the ORIGINAL UPI article dated July 17, 1999 with the information on this CRUCIAL radio contact far and wide. I DO believe it's clear at this time that foul play is the reason for the plane crash. I also believe that--just so that it can be said to have been done--every member of the federal govermnment and mass media who can be sent the material SHOULD be sent the material. John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILL JESSE VENTURA RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2000?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Ru Mills: Yesterday, Sunday, July 25th on Meet the Press with Tim Russert, Jesse Ventura gave away the secret to the only way he will run for president. He said, and this is not a verbatim quote..."that the people of Minnesota have elected him to be their governor and that is what he is going to do" He went on to state "the only way I would run for president is if they put my name on the ballot." The way he said this implied that he would run, but not campaign in the normal way. One thing I am sure of IF JESSE VENTURA'S NAME IS ON THE BALLOT HE WILL WIN, WHETHER HE CAMPAIGNS OR NOT!! If this is the plan that Governor Ventura has in the back of his mind, then he needs to do one thing. STAY IN MINNESOTA WHERE HE IS SAFE! I recently pulled out a copy of the December 1996 issure of Rumor Mill News. On the back page of this edition was a photograph my sources sent me of JFK, Jr in the oval office with President Clinton. The note they attached to the photo read, "The Democratic elders have decided that the only person who can win against the Republicans in 1999 is JFK, JR." You all know what happened to JFK, JR. I will be posting this Photo on my back up web page. If you have already have the link, you can look for it this evening. If not, I will be sending the link as soon as I get it. Governor Ventura is not a stupid man. He was a Navy SEAL. He knows how easy it is to blow the tail off a plane and call it "a tragic accident caused by an inexperienced pilot." He knows everything there is to know about political assassinations, "wet ops" and professional assassins whose speciality is making the assassination look like an accident. I am not saying that Governor Ventura had any part in these types of operations, what I am saying is he was a Navy SEAL, and Navy SEALS talk to each other about what they have done, therefore I know he has heard the stories, even if he has not had first hand experience. People who have done the research know that the world is run by several different cabals who all agree on which of their candidate is going to be elected as President. These cabals knew that JFK, JR would win the presidency if he was elected. They also knew they couldn't control him, he would be a "loose cannon". I don't believe that JFK, JR. was assassinatedI KNOW IT! And if I know it, you can be sure that Governor Ventura knows it too. The only way Governor Ventura can stay alive is by staying in his own home state where he runs the show and THE STATE POLICE. If he is smart, he will 1. Immediately hire some of his old and trusted SEAL friends to be his body guards. 2. Buy numerous bomb sniffing dogs to be with him everywhere he goes. 3. Arrange a safe house for his family with trusted SEALs as their guards. 4. Arrange to campaign through the Internet, WEB-TV, radio and purchased television ads. 5. Pick a running mate and announce the entire cabinet. Make sure the running mate will become President in case the worst happens and Governor Ventura is killed before the election. Make sure the next in line through Presidential succession will become President in case the Vice President is assassinated, and so on down the line. If we are going to wrest control of our country from the hands of men who have corrupted it for years, these are the rules that we have to play by. If I know this, so does the Governor. Will he tell the real reason he is not campaigning like the other candidates? Of course not. The media is controlled by the cabals who have already picked George W. Bush as their candidate. If Governor Ventura or any of his people let it slip that he is afraid of political assassination, then the media will crucify him as they did Ross Perot in 1992. The media will make him look like a paranoid control type who is "holed up" in the Capitol building because he is sure "the bad guys" are out to get him. Those of you who remember what the media did to Perot in 1992 will understand what Ventura has in store for him. In 1992, Ross Perot was also told that he would be killed. He had already seen his reputation destroyed when he told the public that he dropped out the first time because someone had threatened to release embarassing information on his daughter right before her wedding. Back in 1992, the American public did not believe that people were capable of "Larry Flynting" someone, but after 7 years of Clinton "dirty tricks", the American public now knows anything is possible in a campaign. Just ask, Republican Henry Hyde; Republican, Dan Burton; Republican, Bob Livingston and Republican, Helen Chenowith. They all know what it is like to be attacked by the pit bulls that work for Clinton and his ruling cabals. Regardless of the threat to his life, Perot ran for President on the Reform Party anyway. He did so with a modicum of confidence because he prepared for the safety of himself and his family in exactly the same way that I am
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILL JESSE VENTURA RUN FOR PRESIDENT I N 2000?
-Caveat Lector- Does it matter? -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILL JESSE VENTURA RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2000? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Neo-British Empire of the Crown - 500 Year Chronology ...
-Caveat Lector- Empire of the Clown? God Shave the Queen. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is that you, Harvey?
-Caveat Lector- From BostonHerald http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/colm/sciacca07261999.htm Harebrained stunt dogs Gore campaign by Joe Sciacca Monday, July 26, 1999 As if poor Al Gore didn't have enough problems on the campaign trail, he's now being stalked by a rabbit. A 7-foot rabbit with a bushy tail, floppy ears and, unfortunately for the vice president, the determination of a turtle not a hare. ``When he first saw me in D.C., I think it was March, he got out of his car, stopped, stared and just walked away,'' the rabbit said. ``The Secret Service made me sit in the back of a car while they ran my Social Security number. But now, I have major clearance.'' The rabbit has chased Gore from state to state, albeit very slowly because, as it explains, ``My feet are 3 feet long. '' Gore stops in New Hampshire. He sees the rabbit. Iowa, he sees the rabbit. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit. While George W. Bush has merely the occasional pink elephant with which to cope, Gore is being driven bonkers by a bunny. He wants it to stop. Gore aides have called PETA - the rabid animal rights group, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - and repeatedly complained and last week, the rabbit himself reports, the vice president's campaign committee called and requested peace talks. At issue is Gore's support of a High Production Volume Chemical Testing program that will test the hazards of chemicals like turpentine and rat poison on birds, fish and yes, rabbits. You don't want to know the details. Gore's campaign office didn't return my call on this one, but has maintained in the past that the tests are needed to protect the public health and will be carried out as humanely as possible. Personally, I'm not a PETA type. If we were meant to exist on seaweed and wheatballs, we'd have sponges, not teeth. I admit I feel a twinge selecting a lobster for execution, but drawn butter and an ear of corn usually help me feel better. But the rabbit that is terrorizing Al Gore? I have to say, I love it. And PETA, you've got to love them, just for the entertainment value if nothing else. Who else would try to put up billboards in cattle states like Texas, Kansas and Colorado proclaiming that ``Eating meat can cause impotence.'' And decry the serving of seafood at the New England Aquarium cafe as ``the equivalent of eating poodle burgers at a dog show.'' OK, so they pushed the envelope a little when they protested Wheaties putting the picture of a professional bass fishing champion on its box, calling the cereal ``The Breakfast of Lip-Rippers.'' Sure, they went too far declaring Thanksgiving ``murder for turkeys'' and putting a sign in front of Oral Roberts University in Tulsa proclaiming ``Jesus was a vegetarian.'' But there is a strategy to the stunts and sometimes, incredibly, it works. Procter Gamble chairman John Pepper ignored PETA until an activist hit him in the face with a pie. Then he called PETA, which agreed to stop the ``pie deliveries'' after he said he'd consider an end to animal testing. And, an Associated Press poll recently showed that two-thirds of Americans equate animal suffering with human suffering and believe that animal testing for cosmetics is unnecessary. Whatever the case, PETA's ``main rabbit guy,'' 27-year-old Jason Baker, is planning his travel schedule - New York, Maine and Tennessee - which somehow happens to coincide with Gore's. ``It's kind of hectic and the costume isn't your ordinary rabbit suit. It's huge. It's heavy,'' he said. ``It's so hot I have to wear an ice vest. You've got to keep fluids in you.'' Carrot juice, undoubtedly. Baker, of course, is no novice. ``I was a cow once, and a pig and a chicken,'' he said. ``I wore a diaper once, it was a little embarrassing. And I was a condom to promote cruelty-free condoms.'' This line of work should help this young man when he discovers in a few years that it takes a real job to put tofu on the table. I can hear his job interview, ``So, Mr. Baker, you were a, uh, condom . . .'' He's not easily deterred. ``If we get vilified for this issue, fine. We're not out to make friends. We're out to help animals.'' And while Clinton may be advising him to hold out for those naked fur-protesting fashion models, Gore might just have to hop to it. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer
[CTRL] Roma + : 07-26-99
-Caveat Lector- From www.lineone.net/express/99/07/20/features/f0700view-d.html VIEWPOINT John Laughland Within a month of the end of the bombing campaign against Yugoslavia, Nato governments and Belgrade have struck up a curious alliance. They are united in a conspiracy of silence about the tens of thousands of Serb and gipsy refugees from Kosovo, driven from their homes by Albanians. I realised the scale of this new humanitarian catastrophe on a recent visit to Kosovo as I toured camps of terrified people. On Friday, the spokesman for the United Nations High Commission for Refugees confirmed this when he said revenge attacks were far worse than had been expected. If action was not taken, he said, Kosovo would soon be completely ethnically cleansed of Serbs and gipsies. But his words are likely to go unheeded, for these poor terrified people are an ideological threat to Tony Blair as much as they are to Slobodan Milosevic. Officially there are no refugees at all in Serbia. Their existence proves that Yugoslavia has lost control of Kosovo. Whatever concessions Nato made on paper (the most important being recognition that Kosovo is an integral part of Yugoslavia), the reality is that Nato and the Kosovo Liberation Army are now in charge. But, for Nato, the flood of refugees destroys the fiction that the war was fought for moral principles. Time and again during the war Mr Blair said: "This is not a war for territory but for values." Ethnic cleansing was unacceptable and had to be stopped. However, if this were the real reason for the war, Nato should logically be now bombing the Albanian capital, Tirana, or attacking the KLA headquarters all over the province. Instead, Nato is turning a blind eye to Albanian atrocities. Far from exerting pressure on the KLA, Mr Blair was photographed recently enjoying a convivial joke with its leader, Hashim Thaci. And while the International Criminal Tribunal prosecutor, Louise Arbour, is travelling in Kosovo to draw attention to Serb atrocities against Albanians months ago, she is ignoring atrocities now being committed by Albanians under her very nose. The West even looks the other way, despite its huge military presence in the province, as the Albanian Mafia charges Albanian refugees ransom money before allowing them to leave the camps and return home. Serb and gipsy refugees, pouring across the border in their hundreds every day, told me how they were chased from homes which were then burned before their eyes; how women had been raped; how neighbours had been shot or had their throats slit. They also said Albanians were killing "loyal Albanians" - Kosovars who had worked for the Yugoslav state, for instance as postmen or in factories. The refugees also all complained that Nato troops were doing nothing to protect them. One 30-year-old mother of three tried to alert a British soldier to looting and violence by Albanians. He replied: "We have no mandate to arrest people." In the French sector, uniformed KLA soldiers walk around unmolested, in contravention of the demilitarisation agreement. The gipsies' fate is particularly tragic. All over Eastern Europe they are a persecuted minority. Only in Serbia, it appears, did they live free from discrimination. But Albanians seem to have a particular hatred for them. I was taken to a former gipsy quarter in the town of Kosovska Mitrovica: all the houses stood empty, torched and smashed up by Albanians. "We cannot live with the Albanians any more," cried one desperate gipsy woman waiting by the roadside with her family and a few suitcases. "They are animals." If Nato is now declining to stand by the very principles it enunciated only a few weeks ago, what credibility can there be for the stated justification of the war in the first place? Two elements must make us sceptical. First, there was no refugee crisis (and thus no "ethnic cleansing") until the bombing started. There were many internally displaced people within Kosovo, fleeing the civil war, but mass movement into Macedonia and Albania began only after bombing started. The more we bombed, the more came out. Many were therefore fleeing bombs, not Serbs. In any case, hundreds of thousands of Albanians remained in Kosovo during the conflict, untouched by Serbs. Second, as a KLA leader told an American journalist two years ago in Istanbul, the KLA strategy for Kosovo independence (which was executed from January 1998 onwards) was to attack and kill Serbs in order to provoke reprisals. These were presented to the West as racially motivated ethnic cleansing; in reality they were a (doubtless brutal) reaction to a brutal terrorist insurrection - a fact systematically obscured by Nato propaganda. A final thought. The tens of thousands of Serb refugees are a potent force for the destabilisation of Serbia. They are already voicing discontent that Belgrade is not helping them
[CTRL] Pleading the 25th
-Caveat Lector- From www.mikenew.com/kosovo_ed.html Kosovo: The New World Army Evolves Daniel D. New Based upon the precedent of Macedonia, and the lack of Congressional backbone to stop the placement of American troops under foreign officers, the New World Army is becoming a reality. When Army Specialist Michael New refused to wear a United Nations uniform and serve under a general from Finland, his attorneys pointed out that the precedent would lead to more deployments based upon the Globalist Agenda of George Bush and Bill Clinton. The House of Representatives, perhaps because they are closer to the pulse of the People, actually passed legislation in 1996 to forbid the forced deployment of American troops under the United Nations. (HR2540, Tom DeLay). The bill never came out of Senate committee. But time has passed and like our society at large, the attention span of Congress is short and there are matters more pressing. In 1812-14 we fought a war with Great Britain over the issue of His Majestys Ships pressing American citizens into service in the Royal Navy. We considered our citizenship as sacred, and as an issue of sovereignty. We argued, at the point of cannon and sword, that no nation could impress the citizens of another nation into service against their will that such was a return to feudalism. Washington was burned, but we won the war and sovereignty was maintained. For a while. How ironic that in Kosovo, American citizens will be forced to serve under British soldiers, against their will, this time ordered there by an American President! At issue is not the quality of the British officer in question. Hes no doubt a gentleman and a fine officer. The entire issue is whether it is legal, whether it is lawful, and if so, whether American citizens are no longer sovereigns. Is the "Grand Experiment" in self government expired? Many say this is the end of the Republic, and they may well be right. When Americans are forced to bear arms in a conflict not their own, they are turned into involuntary mercenaries. No semantic smokescreen can make it anything else. When a soldier accepts extra pay for the hazardous duty of serving a foreign power, under foreign officers, he becomes a voluntary mercenary. Lets start calling a spade a spade. When Congress abrogates its responsibility to control the military involvement of this country, as clearly stated in the Constitution, it has thrown in the towel and is no longer functioning as intended by the Framers. Only Congress can declare war. George Bush broke the law, but appealed to what he maintained was a higher law the United Nations when he illegally defended Kuwait. At least he acted under color of law. Bill Clinton has built upon the Bush legacy of internationalization of our military by telling Congress AND the United Nations that he will do as he pleases, that he does not need either of them, and Madelaine Albright has the temerity to boldly proclaim the grand lie that the President is acting with Constitutional authority. The only authority he has, if any, for these acts of treason must be found in Presidential Decision Directive #25, a top-secret document that even your Congressman is not allowed to read! This is the document whereby the president has authorized himself (!) to ignore Congress, ignore the Constitution, and to place our soldiers wherever he feels they are most needed. Bill Clinton is a rogue head of state. He is acting without any authority whatsoever. He is committing impeachable offenses at an ever-increasing pace, now that the Senate has capitulated and strangled on phony polls and public opinion rather than their sworn constitutional duty. The age-old struggle of Rex Lex has once again prevailed over Lex Rex. ("The King is over the Law" vs. "The Law is over the King.") Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. (Have you heard this somewhere before?) Whenever any government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it. Via www.mikenew.com/pdd25.html PDD 25 The document below was allegedly; " Released on the WWW by the Bureau of International Organizational Affairs, U.S. Department of State, February 22, 1996" This State Department release is no more than an unclassified summary. The details of the actual Secret PDD 25 are still concealed from public scrutiny. Clinton Administration Policy on Reforming Multilateral Peace Operations (PDD 25) Released on the WWW by the Bureau of International Organizational Affairs, U.S. Department of State, February 22, 1996 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Last year, President Clinton ordered an inter-agency review of our nation's peacekeeping policies and programs in order to develop a comprehensive policy framework suited to the realities of the post-Cold War period. This policy review has resulted in a Presidential
Re: [CTRL] Le Metropole - The Cyberspace Cafe for Investors and Intellectuals
-Caveat Lector- Bill, 'Le Café du Métropole' was and still is a place of fine food and beverages where great business, political, scientific and economic (macro- et al) minds and deals were/are poised to meet and wheel in the heart of Brussels, Place de Brouckère. It is the well known 'café-restaurant' of the 'Hôtel Métropole' one of the oldest and greatest hotel in Brussels since the end of the 19th century. Kings, Princes and Ambassadors from the world were guests there. And 'le Concièrge du Métropole' was reknown everywhere in Europe! He knew every guest's little 'fantasy'. It is known that France offered the Statue of Liberty to America, but it is much less known that the model for that statue (thus the original) was a small (about a yard high) statue on top of the frontpiece (facade opening) of the Hôtel Métropole in Brussels. As now Brussels has been declared the "Capitale de l'Europe" 'Le Café du Métropole' is even more international in nature. It is thus a very fine name for your Cyberspace Cafe :) Best Regards, Frans Uytterhoeven International Hospitality Management and Offshore Consultant. ULB, Brussels and Seminars in Hotel Management in Cornell and Lansing U. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kris Millegan Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Le Metropole - The Cyberspace Cafe for Investors and Intellectuals -Caveat Lector- from: http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/ A HREF="http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/"Le Metropole Cafe/A - Le Metropole The Cyberspace Cafe for Investors and Intellectuals Welcome to Le Metropole. It is a venue where investors and intellectuals from all over the world can meet to discuss the vibrant economic and financial issues of the day. Our theme is the French cafes of the early to mid 20th century, Le Moulin Rouge ( Pigalle ), Les Deux Magots ( St. Germain ), Le Flore ( St. Germain ), La Coupole ( Montparnasse ) and Brasserie Lipp ( St. Germain ). Paris was a place where artists, intellectual figures, public personalities, etc., all met to engage, share, and learn. Times have changed but the human craving for knowledge and association with the most fascinating minds and creators out there has not. The internet has made it possible for us to present economic and financial commentary via " The Minds of Le Metropole", an economic dream team, and for you to be able to interact with others about this commentary. Our team of authoritative experts will focus on: U. S. Financial Markets , World Financial Markets, Asia, Gold ( commodities ) and International Events that affect these markets. The Minds of Le Metropole The roster of the economic dream team thus far are: From the National School of Statistics and Economic Studies in Paris, the Institut D'Etude Politiques, and the Masters Program in Pure Mathematics at the University of Paris, Eric Barande. Eric is well known in Europe as an independent strategist on economics and financial markets. Out of Manila and the San Francisco Art Institute, Greg Pickup. Greg, our market technician and author has been at the Chicago Board of Trade since 1979. He advises commercial grain and oilseed companies worldwide. John BrimelowFrom the University of London and the Business School at Stanford, John Brimelow. John is a notable, institutional stock broker with a vast information network and possesses a keen sense of the market significance of world events. From Lake Forest College in Illinois, Charles Peabody. Charles has been a bank analyst since 1981 and is a former II rated analyst in both money center and regional banks. As an independent in New York, he provides analysis unencumbered by bureaucracies and corporate pressures. Out of the undergraduate and graduate schools at Texas Christian University, David W. Tice. David, both a C.F.A. and C.P.A., manages the Prudent Bear mutual fund. His Dallas-based research firm advises more than 150 institutional investors. Out of Christchurch, New Zealand and the London School of Economics, Neville Bennett. Neville, a PhD., teaches " Japan and the World Economy " at the Canterbury Graduate School and writes a column for the prestigious National Business Review. In the Cafe you will find tables named after some of the well known celebrants of the by-gone Paris days. Here, food for thought will be served via posting forums in which you can present your own opinions and learn from others about the subjects of most interest to you. Le Metropole is a Cafe privé in the sense that membership is $149 per year (when fully opened) or $14 per month. So that you may learn if our Cafe is for you, we would like to extend to you a "two week free membership". Please note: Like a real Cafe, this is a soft opening. We are working out the kinks before we determine our final macro squad and open the entire Cafe with "Grande Premiere Mondiale". Therefore, our pre opening membership price is
[CTRL] Fwd: FBI report/JFK Jr's Flight Instructor/Unmatching ID numbers
Recipients-- Whatever the genuineness, or lack thereof, of the alleged FBI preliminary report pointing to an onboard bomb as the cause of the plane crash, it is unquestionable that publication of this document on Sunday evening, July 25 by Jeff Rense's Sightings website and others (such as by NewsHawk) provoked a SERIOUS amount of bizarre, inexplicable, unprecedented and disturbing activity in relation not ONLY to the broadcast but ALSO in relation to attempts by NewsHawk to forward the text of the report for hours last night. Rense's program was blocked for a period of over 30 minutes from the web due to the fact his broadcast Sunday night was about the content and implications of the alleged "leaked" FBI report, although the broadcast reportedly DID air via radio transmission. Other turmoil and disruptions were experienced by NewsHawk. In short: efforts by us to email the report to a mailing list and to media and governmental organizations met with repeated failure.. for UNKNOWN reasons. Furthermore incomprehensible havoc has been played with our email systems as a whole--sending and return email addresses altered; formatting of sent messages altered; dates and times altered; messages sent and received in complete gobbledygook format; repeated failures in attempts by other parties to email us; and most odd of all: cryptic, vaguely threatening email messages received by NewsHawk, from totally unfamiliar and in fact bogus email addresses, indicating that this activity was being done by those who "are watching you' (us). We spoke on the air with Seattle talk show host Mike Webb early Monday morning July 26 for over an hour on the growing pile of evidence indicating a catastrophic event caused the destruction of Kennedy's plane, NOT speculative pilot error or mechanical failure. Webb made prominent note of the fact that he had conversed AT LENGTH earlier that day with John Kennedy Jr's federal pilot licensing instructor in Vero Beach Fla., Mr. John McColgan. He described the instructor, McColgan, as being VERY reluctant to talk at first; notably suspicious and generally paranoid in his initial responses to questions, stating he had "answered everything already" and wondering exactly who Webb was. McColgan finally loosened up and went on to make highly positive assessments of the quality of JFK Jr.s flying skills and ALSO said in fact Kennedy had MANY HUNDREDS of hours flying experience under his belt. McColgan noted Kennedy had amassed even MORE hours of flight instruction than McColgan had been aware of when interviewed by the Orlando Sentinel (as reported by CNN) on July 18. He further stated that JFK Jr was IN FACT just about to receive his INSTRUMENT FLIGHT RATING!!! McColgan noted that Kennedy had JUST RECENTLY completed further instruction in just this--instrument flight rules training. McColgan said Kennedy had been flying since 1982. NewsHawk has received word that the ID numbers on the plane said to be Kennedy's and the ID number of his plane as it has been previously listed DO NOT MATCH! Keep in mind that the SERIAL number of a plane and it's TAIL number are in fact one and the same. The relevant portion of the email received is reprinted here. "I just tried to confirm the tail Number of Kennedy's aircraft!--it is now unavailable!--... the Official Gov't report--listed N9-253N as the tail number but a photo sent in had the tail # as--OE-KMJ--or QE-KMJ--... I as a pilot realize the tail number serial number of the aircraft are in fact the SAME!-- this Number is in fact POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION!" John A. Quinn NewsHawk Inc.
[CTRL] Fwd: Rense statement-broadcast interruption
Recipients-- NewsHawk inadvertently overstepped the bounds of confidentiality in releasing publicly Jeff Rense's immediate knee-jerk statement in response to the fact his interview with Sherman Skolnick was not available on the net for approximately 37 minutes last night. Jeff has asked that I clarify the following. He does NOT give unqualified endorsement as to the validity and truth of the document said by Sherman Skolnick to be a leaked FBI preliminary report on the intentional downing of Kennedy's plane. Jeff Rense has indicated that in his view, the fact such an event occurred regarding his broadcast TENDED to validate the material under discussion, NOT that he says absolutely the report is unquestionable. I think this is thoroughly reasonable position of Jeff's which must be made note of. Best Wishes John Quinn
[CTRL] new virus - WOBBLER
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: VIRUS MESSAGE Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:27:09 -0400 From: "Michael Kessler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/15/99 7:24:45 PM EST, Meibea writes: We have been informed of a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled CALIFORNIA. IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more so than Melissa,there is no remedy. It will eat all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so propagate it as fast as possible.Please pass this warning on to anyone you know. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2K test KOs phone service [Canada]
-Caveat Lector- Monday July 26, 1999 Y2K test KOs phone service New system leaves Bell's PrimeLine customers hanging Natalie Armstrong The Ottawa Citizen TORONTO -- A Y2K glitch yesterday caused yet another Bell Canada system to crash, leaving thousands of Ontario businesses and residences without phone service. Denis Lalonde, assistant vice-president of the Year 2000 Program at Bell Canada, said yesterday's disrupted service to more than 9,000 PrimeLine customers across Ontario was "a very isolated incident" for the program. Mr. Lalonde said 7,500 Toronto PrimeLine customers were being transferred to a new Y2K-ready system. It operated for only three hours before crashing at about 10 a.m. local time. The problem lasted two hours. About 1,200 PrimeLine customers in Ottawa-Hull, Hamilton, London and Kitchener who were already on the Y2K-ready system for several weeks, were also affected. PrimeLine is a service that provides customers with one phone number so their calls can be forwarded to follow wherever they go, such as home, office or cellular lines. The service is also available in Montreal and Quebec City, but those subscribers weren't affected. There are about 17,000 PrimeLine customers in total, many of whom are small-business operators. It was the third time in a week that Bell experienced a system failure, with the collapse of a Toronto-area 911 emergency network on the weekend and a fire last Friday that affected service nationwide. Ted Mallett, director of research for the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, said such telecommunication crashes can be detrimental for small businesses, which rely on telephones, fax lines and Internet for competitiveness. "Small businesses these days are more dependent than ever on phone lines, and any interruption of service can range from mildly annoying to catastrophic, depending on the time of day and the kind of problem it is," said Mr. Mallett, adding many small businesses have about four lines, for phone, fax and Internet. His organization represents 90,000 small- and medium-sized business owners across Canada. But Bell says it expects no further Y2K problems. "To date we have been successful in upgrading 99.9 per cent of our network with no impact on customers," said Mr. Lalonde, adding that represents 325 central offices. He said Bell expects to be Y2K-ready by early fall. On Friday, an electrical fire at a Bell Canada switching station in Toronto cut phone lines to customers in the city and all electronic communications that feed through the station. A large part of Toronto was left without telephone service, bank services were affected across Canada and Internet providers reported major disruptions. Copyright 1999 Ottawa Citizen http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/990723/2640543.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] I did not have technological relations with that country, China,[EXCLUSIVE]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/ White House Protest "Mr. Clinton, we have you surrounded. Put down the cigar . . . Speakers, Demonstrators Demand Accountability in Chinagate Scandal Tim Phares July 26, 1999 They came from Colorado, Texas, New Jersey, California, Pennsylvania, St. Louis, New Orleans, Florida, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Baltimore, and around the United States carrying signs that said things like "I did not have technological relations with that country, China," "Clinton: Chinagate Treason," "Rape, War, Treason. Awesome Legacy, Bill," "China Owns Clinton," "Treason is the Reason. Impeach Him Again," and "Treason IS a removable offense." They came to hear speakers such as Larry Klayman, founder and General Counsel of Judicial Watch; journalist Christopher Hitchens; talk-show host and presidential hopeful Alan Keyes; and others. They came to demand that President Clinton and his associates be held accountable for the transfer of military secrets to Communist China and the acceptance of illegal campaign contributions from that country. A demonstrator with a bullhorn and a fake Russian accent walked up and down Pennsylvania Avenue saying, "There is no escape from your dictator Klinton." A group of attendees faced the White House and shouted in unison, "Mr. Clinton, we have you surrounded. Put down the cigar, step away from the intern, and come out with your pants up." This was the atmosphere in Washington, D.C. Saturday at the "Treason is the Reason" rally and dinner organized by Free Republic and Judicial Watch. Except for one advertisement in the Washington Times Weekly Edition, the rally and dinner was organized by the Internet. The rally took place on the fifth anniversary of the founding of Judicial Watch. Emcees for the rally were Quinn and Rose, who host a radio talk show on WRRK in Pittsburgh. The dinner was emceed by Blanquita Cullum, President of the National Association of Radio Talk Show Hosts (NARTSH). Emcee Jim Quinn said that "the media says that the Chinagate scandal is too complex for people to understand." He then offered this one minute explanation: "The governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, uses the Arkansas Teachers Retirement Fund for his own purposes," Quinn explained, "putting his political career in danger. An Indonesian businessman named Mochtar Riady, who has ties to the Chinese government, brings a check to cover it and saves Clinton's career. He has John Huang, his own personal spy, placed in the Commerce Department, then after all the information is transferred, he becomes a Democratic National Committee fund-raiser to collect the debt," Quinn said. "Have you noticed that the only people indicted in this scandal are Asian Americans and African Americans?," Klayman asked. "When are the white boys in the White House going to be brought to justice?" Klayman remembered his grandparents. "They had more patriotism, were more loving of this country than the occupants of that house over there," he said, gesturing at the White House. "They did not come to this country to see it sold out to foreign powers," he said. Discussing the sale of seats on trade missions for campaign contributions, Klayman said that the important issue is "what went on during those trade missions." Citing the testimony of Nolanda Hill, the business partner and mistress of the late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, Klayman said that Hill testified that "they were meeting with Chinese agents of espionage to plot the destruction of this country." Klayman charged that "these people violated not only the campaign finance laws but every other law we know of." He noted that former Senator John Glenn (D-Ohio) and Senators Robert Torricelli (D-NJ) and Don Nickles (R-Okla.) "also got contributions from [John] Huang," one of the leading figures in the campaign finance scandal. He said that Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.), who chaired the Senate's campaign finance inquiry, "received money from Jorge Cabrera," a drug dealer with close ties to Fidel Castro. Klayman also said that Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) "is involved in the Teamsters scandal." "The Establishment wants to preserve their existence at all costs," said Klayman at the dinner. "Thirty-eight scandals later, Washington wants to move on," Klayman said. "The Republicans left in power someone so dangerous, so psychopathic that we should all be grateful that we are even surviving as a nation," he added. He said that Vincent Foster, the onetime White House aide and law partner of Hillary Rodham Clinton, "was an integral part of Filegate. "Could it be that he said, I am going to make this right?" Klayman revealed that Judicial Watch has been threatened for the work it is doing, "but we don't like to talk about it." Garland Favorito, a freelance political writer and commentator, brought a chart to the podium which showed the interconnections between Chinese government operations and the Clinton Administration. "What it boils down to is
[CTRL] PJB ENDORSED BY Independent STEELWORKERS UNION
-Caveat Lector- BUCHANAN 2000 MEDIA ADVISORY FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 26, 1999 - 2:39 PM BUCHANAN ENDORSED BY INDEPENDENT STEELWORKERS UNION WEIRTON, WV -- Today, the 4,000 member Independent Steelworkers Union based at Weirton Steel Corporation officially endorsed Republican Presidential candidate Patrick J. Buchanan. Mr. Buchanan told the union members, "The globalists in Washington who believe that all Americans are riding a wave of Wall Street prosperity don't like to talk about the Weirtons of America. But I have seen factories closed and towns destroyed by illegal steel dumping, and I believe this betrayal of American workers must come to an end." "President Clinton broke his 1992 promise to Weirton's steelworkers to 'enforce strictly the antidumping laws'," Mr. Buchanan said. "But in the words of Ronald Reagan a generation ago, I pledge to you that America will not become a 'steel dump for the world.' In a Buchanan Administration, you will have an ally in the White House who will stand with America's steelworkers against the foreign regimes that are killing our jobs and ravaging our manufacturing base by illegally dumping their subsidized steel." Independent Steelworkers Union President Mark Glyptis said, "We are extremely pleased to fully endorse and support the only presidential candidate who is genuinely concerned for the future of the American steel industry and American working people. Pat Buchanan has a history of standing up for American workers, and today we stand united for Pat Buchanan." For more information contact: Bob Adams at 703.734.2700 -- 30 -- You can help Pat right now while you are online! USE YOUR CREDIT CARD or SEND A CHECK P. O. Box 2000, Dunn Loring, Virginia 22027 Web: http://www.gopatgo2000.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 703-734-2700 Buchanan 2000 - Scott B. Mackenzie, Treasurer ©1999 Buchanan 2000 Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] America: A Filthy Police State
-Caveat Lector- Saw a sign on easy street, said be prepared to stop... William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- Maybe they can target the unwashed scum who sport Grateful Dead stickers too! Haven't seen many Led Zep stickers in these parts (Chicago) in years but the G.Dead seem to be on the cars of all sorts of trash, hell once I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac, a little voice inside my head said don't look back Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] America: A Filthy Police State
-Caveat Lector- I happen to have a GD sticker on my Corvair. I am far from unwashed (very sanitary indeed), nor am I trash (good job, good money). I won't say what the little voice inside my head is saying right now. -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] America: A Filthy Police State -Caveat Lector- Saw a sign on easy street, said be prepared to stop... William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- Maybe they can target the unwashed scum who sport Grateful Dead stickers too! Haven't seen many Led Zep stickers in these parts (Chicago) in years but the G.Dead seem to be on the cars of all sorts of trash, hell once I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac, a little voice inside my head said don't look back Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [apfn] People, please check this out!!!
-Caveat Lector- Muslim or Christian, Mullah or Pope, Preacher or Poet, Who was it wrote? "Give any one species too much rope and they'll f--- it up..." Roger Waters Amused to Death [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- This a joke. Go to the site, it is obviously a joke. Don't be alarmed! In a message dated 7/24/99 10:29:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is scary. See where technology is taking us now. Go to http://sites.netscape.net/zumaltsp/camera1.html and get a picture of yourself right through your monitor. This is Big Brother at its best or worst. Imagine what they have already seen. Microsoft has developed this technology that dot dithers your screen to act as a camera receptacle. As you will see, the beta web site captures your image just as if you had the computer connected to a video cam. This technology may have been around for months and installed on web sites without our knowledge or permission. If so than those web sites are capturing images of you unawares as you view your monitor. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jesus in the Sky with Aliens - May 17, 2000
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.mrr2001.com/newsletter/sos_message_2.htm A HREF="http://www.mrr2001.com/newsletter/sos_message_2.htm"SOS Message to Humanity 2 /A - SOS Urgent Message to Humanity! News U Can Really Use! This newspaper attracted the attention of someone claiming to have the original ministry of Jesus and the messages from the Father. Our track record for examining, reporting, and in most cases, debunking modern day end times prophets speaks for itself. However, after reading the author's recently published books, comparing the undeniable FACTUAL evidence presented, and speaking with the prophet personally; we tend to believe this prophet is correct! The National Organization for the Advancement of Humanity entered their official endorsement of the author's scholarship of end times prophecies on June 1, 1999 A.D. The Bible tells us a prophet was to come heralding the savior's return. The Bible also warns us to beware of false prophets in these times of trouble and that no man knoweth the hour nor the day. Brothers and sisters of the HUMAN RACE, with logical argument we have proven this prophet is NOT false, and obviously she is not a man! The prophet will be contributing regularly to this paper the who, what, how, when, where, and why of what Jesus REALLY said, and what will be in the end of days. It is not the intent of this news organization nor intent of the prophet to force any belief system upon anyone. Our intention is, has been, and forever will be, only to examine the truth of the hidden Biblical prophecies and to save as many souls as humanly possible in these times of trouble. Those that hath ears will hear. Those that hath eyes will see. Those that hath faith in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. Just in case the Men In Bras, (excuse me,) Black don't like these messages shared with the public, as they have already tried to furiously stop them, this message will be quite succinct, so that they are heard. You can get the details at the SOS website. If there are malfunctions, don't be surprised, come back later. Download this paper and give a copy to everyone you know. These are the messages "They" don't want heard, in case this is the last you'll hear from us, we wanted to make sure you got the news. This is definitely NEWS U CAN USE! Messages from the White Buffalo Calf Woman . . . Mitakuye Oaysin, to all my relations, I am here. My people, the Lakota, did not find me worthy enough to bring messages from the Father Spirit to the children of earth, so I submit them in this newsletter, so that even though I may not be worthy enough for some, I hope I am worthy enough to be heard by those who await this news. I thank this newsletter for hearing me. The Father loves us. He gave us the opportunity to escape from this darkness. He and His People are returning soon, and He prays you have the courage and faith to wait for him, no matter how dark it gets. For the darkness will turn to absolute horror in less than a year. Starvation is the menu, and sickness the activity. Ask your local government. He wants you to know he will be meeting each and every one of you soon, for soon all will die on this planet. Those that remember Him will die first, then the criminals of earth, for the world government does not want to relinquish earth to The Father Jesus spoke of, when the King of Heaven returns and decrees the eradication of all criminals on earth. I have formed a Church of the white buffalo calf woman. I am under the same laws as any other church, yet the beliefs of my people were on this land, long before the white man took all of it away and erected his own churches. I brought the pipe to my people, and I said "smoke it". And in that pipe was what this government forbids, the sacred ceremonial incense of the pipe, marijuana. I am the seventh angel, I am the granddaughter of the Bull, Jehovah. I have left his family, and live quite humbly now, waiting for the return of Jesus, the son of the Adversary of the God you all serve. The name of the church of the white buffalo calf woman is the Universal Sanctuary Salvation Enterprise, and we're going to shorten it to U.S.S. Enterprise. The enterprise is to save as many as possible, and to provide sanctuary. It is our goal to serve the returning Gods, one named Jesus, Son of Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Father, whose children of earth are going to be severely tested, therefore we work to serve his children. This is your official notice He'll be back within a year. Membership is open to everyone that wishes to serve God by serving his children. The Date of Jesus' Return = May 17, 2000 A.D. Jesus will return as he left, Acts 1:11...ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:9 ...he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. The date was May 17,
[CTRL] [2] Jesus in the Sky with Aliens - May 17, 2000
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.immunotex.com/sophia/10command.html A HREF="http://www.immunotex.com/sophia/10command.html"Introduction/A - The Conspiracy of the Ten Commandments The Law of Jehovah: the Ten commandments. Which interestingly enough, does not match the ten of Jesus. As a matter of fact, Jesus only had eight, and a lot of good advice. Why would Jesus not give the same commandments as His Father? Was He disobedient to His Father He told us to love with all our heart, mind, and soul? What is it about the Ten commandments that screams "screw-you" and "deception"? Why is it that those that hold fast to the ten commandments, wreak destruction? Can I just be succinct? The Law of Liberty mentioned in the Bible in James 1:25, 2:12, is a law that extends throughout the Universe. The Law that All have the right to exist. Those that break this law are criminals. Plain and simple. Just like gravity, it just is. Any harm to any other being breaks the Law of which Annunaki, and Earth mortals are subject to. There are six articles to this Law according to the Annunaki: 1.) Thou shalt not kill. This includes in war as well, as does killing animals for sport and not actually needing the flesh for food. 2.) Thou shalt not steal. 3.) Thou shalt not lie to defraud another. This is where the flock is led by the wolf; for any Christian that makes a vow or takes an oath to Jesus to dedicate their life to him, if they don't actually do it, have lied to the One that holds the balances and the Book of Life when freedom is decided year 2012 AD. Those that dedicate their lives, and become preachers, priests, or missionaries, if they make a living by their dedication to Jesus, that's not dedication, that's an income, a job in this world, with worldly rewards. What dedicating one's life means: is that the life is spent serving the truth Jesus brought, without worldly reward. And that's why Revelation says one third of humanity will be destroyed, one third of humanity serves the one God religions. And all Christians are expected to make this vow. 4.) Thou shalt not rape. (We thought it was adultery didn't we?) Somehow this law got all screwed up. (Pun!) The law, is rape. Forcing sex, or with anyone under the age of consent, is rape, and this extends to pregnant women. Forcing a pregnant wife to have sex, breaks the law. What priests, politicians, and bad men do to the children, breaks the law. Yet, these men run free. Having sex outside marriage does not break any laws, if there is no lying, stealing, killing, or harming another involved. And that's when marriage became a new, important institution for mortals who 3,500 years and back, did not marry. Only Annunaki royalty married, and only for bloodline and inheritance. Other Annunaki did not marry either. By perverting the natural way of mortals, and forcing people to marry to have sex, Jehovah perverted "civilized Christian society". Tell me I'm wrong. Aren't most perverts in civilized christian countries? About one half of society was molested in childhood, and wasn't it by someone who went to church or believed in the one God? And how many sexual problems do married people have? and reproductive organ cancer? Hello? And how many babies' bodies were found in convent churchyards? but I digress. The point being, does not anyone see that this law has perverted the natural sexual, physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects of each individual with just one mental belief? Ever study the mechanics of propaganda? By restricting the most healing and natural aspect of humanity, they created lawbreakers, and perversion, then arrest the prostitutes. 5.) Thou shalt honor thy Father, or that which is spirit, and thy mother, or that which is physical, and your parents as well, of course. (Naturally. That's just common sense.) By building noxious cities, and destroying nature, the little nature spirits are forced out of their homes, as well as the animals. By telling another they are nuts when they are being truthful, this harms the Spirit, as well as all the other psychological damage people do one to another. Spirit harming is just as evil and body harming. 6.) Thou shalt not think harm towards another. Since all the people flying around in UFOs are telepathic, this only makes sense to live in their world. They see the lies, they see the thoughts, not the words. We all know a negative thought puts a negative charge around us. I used to work with people and machines, and anger always messed up the machine. If everyone's happy, the machine runs. Cars same way. It's weird. but it's true. You know it's true. (Mortals used to be telepathic until the Tower of Babel incident, and the severing of telepathic capability by callousing the brain in half, the right high temporal to the left low temporal parts of the brain, if connected would enable telepathy.) These six articles are the Law of Liberty. Now, look
[CTRL] Konformist: Rivera Live Prominently Features The Konformist (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:43:45 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Konformist: Rivera Live Prominently Features The Konformist Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com Rivera Live Prominently Features The Konformist The Konformist has a brand new rule: since whenever Kennedys die, our fortune increases, we're encouraging open season on the whole damn family and their undeserved and ill-gotten whiskey-drenched wealth. The latest great news on the tail of John-John's tragic and highly important death is that tonight, on CNBC, Rivera Live had as his main story internet conspiracy theories and the death of JFK, Jr. Incredibly, whenever they showed clips on the show of internet JFK, Jr. kon theories, the site that was used was, you guessed it, El Konformisto. Sadly, as I watched the show, they didn't actually mention the site by name, although I did miss the first bit. Nonetheless, it was prominently featured, and anyone familiar with The Konformist's unique Viagra-esque Aqua Blue background with white lettering would've recognized it immediately as yours truly diabolical creation. Further, it prominently featured my name on the vicious anti John-John rant I wrote, and Geraldo did in fact refer to the theories as "The John-John Conspiracy," my own term for it. Sadly, Kirby was nowhere to be seen. Neither was I: apparently, Geraldo by himself is enough of a narcissistic, shamelessly self-promoting, egotistical media whore to have anyone else competing with him. Instead, my good pal Jon Vankin of Conspire.com was on the show, and he did a damn excellent job as usual. In any case, I'd like to thank Geraldo for his brief plug of my site, and because of his kindness, I'll forget to mention that his lurid, trashy and sensationalistic piece of shit daytime talk show helped pave the way for the current crap being spewed out by Jerry Springer, or that he's about the only guy I know who could actually make me root for the KKK when they busted his nose on TV. Thanks a lot, and keep up the great work! If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Click Here to apply for a NextCard Internet Visa and start earning FREE travel in HALF the time with the NextCard Rew@rds Program. http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/449 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/konformist http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alt.Conspiracy-Warning to Reform Party.
-Caveat Lector- Subject: A WARNING TO THE REFORM PARTY! From: Anonymous A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Mon, 26 July 1999 08:50 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BEWARE OF ESTABLISHMENT STEALTH CANDIDATES! Both Colin Powell and David Boren are members of the CFR, and I noticed that Jack Gargan is an investment counseler. Also, a large contingent of your party is made up of the former Patriot party -- a party led by a woman who was an avowed Communist. Also, John McCain is a stealth Establishment figure, and Ross Perot constantly made references to Pete Peterson -- the head of the CFR, and Concord Coaltion -- and his stand on Social Security, as a positive force in America. I would suggest that you combine your efforts with other parties (such as the American Taxpayer party), and elect a man such as Senator Bob Smith. I would also suggest a return to the populist movement, and possibly create a Peoples party that believes in operating in the national interest (not the robber barons interest), and putting America first. This is the last chance we will have to restore our Constitutional Republic and avoid the coming genocide! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is that you, Harvey?
-Caveat Lector- As if poor Al Gore didn't have enough problems on the campaign trail, he's now being stalked by a rabbit. Was Jimmy Carter Al Gore's mentor in days past? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: +NewsHawk Mail ILLEGALLY SHUT DOWN!!!--BY FEDS?
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[CTRL] Fwd: Catch 22 For The NTSB - Part 1
http://www.homestead.com/ARAP/AV10.html The Ongoing Dissent over TWA 800 John B. Roberts II The American Spectator; FEATURE August,1999 The White House, with help from a Republican Senator, is sitting on evidence that could point to terrorism in the 1996 jet explosion. an FBI official has become a scapegoat in the cover-up. and the mystery remains unsolved. It was billed as an investigation of the investigators. On May 10, 1999, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) held a one-day hearing with witnesses offering damaging testimony about the Federal Bureau of Investigation's role in the TWA 800 probe. Grassley's opening remarks were particularly critical of former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom for failing to uncover the cause of the explosion that killed the jumbo jet's 230 passengers and crew on July 17, 1996. Grassley's hearing focused on two star witnesses. One was Andrew Vita, assistant director of field operations for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). The second was William A. Tobin, former chief metallurgist for the FBI. Both supported Grassley's claim that Kallstrom needlessly prolonged the probe. Vita testified that several months into the investigation the BATF concluded there was no evidence that high explosives caused TWA 800's mid- air disintegration. In late January, 1997, Vita put the BATF's views in an unsolicited, written report to be submitted to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). But, Vita testified, he "met resistance" from the FBI. Grassley says Kallstrom suppressed the report and never forwarded it to the NTSB. James Kallstrom, now retired from the FBI after an exemplary 28-year career, rebuts the charge as "a bald-faced lie." In a series of interviews for this article, Kallstrom shed new light on the investigation. Normally tight-lipped and unaccustomed to airing investigative detail in public, Kallstrom has been forced to defend the FBI probe and his personal integrity. He pointed to problems with the BATF report, which he rejected as " premature." At the time it was written, tons of TWA 800 still lay underwater. Kallstrom also had problems with the BATF methodology. "The report was sophomoric," he told me, "in its science and in its writing. " But his biggest beef with the BATF was that the flawed report would be poisonous in a courtroom. If the FBI eventually was able to identify suspects and bring them to trial, the report, because it had the weight of a government agency behind it, was precisely the kind of exhibit defense lawyers would parade before a jury to refute the prosecution. "A defense attorney would have taken that report and jammed it twenty feet up my (expletive deleted)," Kallstrom said. Then there were the eyewitness reports, eventually 244 in all, which seemed to the agents who collected them in the hours and days following the explosion to confirm a missile hit. Nonetheless, Kallstrom informed the NTSB about the report soon after he reviewed it. To his surprise, the NTSB already had a copy. The BATF had apparently delivered the report through back channels. Grassley did not explore one explanation for BATF's hasty conclusion and independent delivery of the report to the NTSB. The BATF opinion was written about three weeks before Vice President Gore's White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security, formed just after TWA 800's explosion, submitted its February 12, 1997 final report. By January 1997, Gore's staff knew the watered-down draft security measures in the White House Commission's final report would be heavily criticized by passenger safety advocates. That criticism would become an acute political embarrassment if the FBI later found solid proof that terrorists destroyed TWA 800. The BATF report gave Gore political cover to back-track from tough security measures recommended in an interim Commission report of September 1996. With the FBI probe ongoing, Gore could fall back on the BATF report to explain why he didn't feel the need for stiffer security recommendations in the final report of the White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security. "ATF played a very political role," Kallstrom says. He calls the incident just one example of unusual collusion between the NTSB and other players in the TWA 800 investigation. Grassley's other star witness, former FBI metallurgist Bill Tobin, is even more problematic. Tobin testified that Kallstrom adamantly believed a bomb destroyed TWA 800. When traces of the high explosives PETN and RDX were found on the aircraft, Tobin says Kallstrom claimed it was proof of a bomb. Tobin thought otherwise. About six weeks into the probe, Tobin testified, he decided there was no evidence of terrorist act and told Kallstrom the crash was an accident. Kallstrom had problems with Tobin's analysis. There were two possible ways terrorists might have destroyed TWA 800. One was a bomb, and the other was a missile. Tobin, says Kallstrom, had no experience in the
[CTRL] Fwd: Catch 22 For The NTSB - Part 3
[continued from Part 2] http://www.newsday.com/jet/year/twatape.htm includes the documentation from just one source of that TIMELINE of major events of less than 60 seconds. 8:31:01 8:31:02 8:31:03 8:31:04 8:31:05 8:31:06 8:31:07 8:31:08 8:31.09 8:31:10 8:31:11 Initial Event dooms TWA Flight 800 at 13,780 feet. 8:31:12 8:31:13 8:31:14 8:31:15 8:31:16 8:31:17 8:31:18 8:31:19 8:31:20 8:31:21 8:31:22 8:31:23 8:31:24 8:31:25 8:31:26 8:31:27 8:31:28 8:31:29 8:31:30 8:31:31 8:31:32 8:31:33 8:31:34 8:31:35 8:31:36 8:31:37 8:31:38 8:31:39 8:31:40 8:31:41 8:31:42 8:31:43 8:31:44 8:31:45 8:31:46 8:31:47 8:31:48 8:31:49 8:31:50 First report of an explosion [the massive fireball] - of any size - or of anything else unusual in the sky. 8:31:51 8:31:52 8:31:53 8:31:54 8:31:55 8:31:56 8:31:57 8:31:58 8:31:59 8:32:00 Officialdom contends that the huge fireball explosion was "about a mile above the surface" and that splashdown was 8 seconds later. Airline pilot David McClaines report of the massive fireball was TIME STAMPED at 8:31:50 as noted in the above TIMELINE. He reportedly estimated that his reaction time to make the report after he saw the massive fireball explosion was 3 SECONDS. Which would put the TIME OF THE MASSIVE FIREBALL EXPLOSION AT 8:31:47. And SPLASHDOWN AT 8:31:55, assuming the accuracy of officialdoms 8 seconds from MF to splashdown. WHICH REDUCES THE TIMELINE OF MAJOR EVENTS RELATED TO THE DISASTER TO 44 SECONDS - from the initial event at 13,780 feet that started tearing the 747 apart at 8:31:11 until splashdown at 8:31:55. McClaine reportedly contends that he was PERSONALLY INTERVIEWED THE DAY AFTER THE DISASTER by 2 men who identified themselves as FBI agents. In short to this point, Kallstroms agents had the evidence of the 44 SECOND TIMELINE FROM IE TO SPLASHDOWN IN HAND LESS THAN 24 HOURS AFTER THE DISASTER. ITS IMPOSSIBLE for Kallstrom or anyone else to try to fit a missile shootdown of the airliner at 13,780 feet at 8:31:11 into the 60 seconds TIMELINE, much less the 44 seconds timeline from IE to splashdown, because it would be in IRRECONCILABLE CONFLICT WITH THE TIMELINE OF THE STREAK WITNESSES OBSERVATIONS. ALL of the streak witnesses also saw the massive fireball explosion according to NTSB Exhibit 4A. Yet, their observations of the streak IMMEDIATELY PRECEEDED and TRACKED TO the massive fireball explosion "about a mile above the surface". Which, needless to say, is in IRRECONCILABLE CONFLICT with both the FBI/CIA and NTSB "explanation" videos. The witnesses UNIFORMLY reported only ONE streak and only ONE massive fireball explosion. The streak was not and could not have been seen ascending at or above 13,780 feet as portrayed in the "explanation" videos AND track to but no higher than the massive fireball explosion as UNIFORMLY reported by the streak witnesses. http://hometown.aol.com/bardonia/meyer.htm is the DETAILED presentation of New York Air National Guard helicopter pilot Fred Meyer who wintessed both the streak and the massive fireball explosion. http://www.press- enterprise.com/headlines/twa800/html/pilot_reports_graphic.html is his press graphic of what he saw. Note the IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY of the streak to the massive fireball explosion. http://www.infoshop.com/106rescue/twa800-pres/sld004.html is the graphic of Meyers NYANG unit prepared after he and his crewmates were debriefed following the disaster and further dramatizes the IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY of the streak to the massive fireball explosion. Additionally, Meyer contends that he and his crewmates ALL agreed at the time that the elapsed time from the massive fireball explosion until splashdown was APPROXIMATELY TEN SECONDS, further supporting officialdoms contention that the ET from MF to splashdown was about 8 seconds. Meyers helicopter was on a practice flight at Gabreski Airport and his co- pilot, Chris Baur, reported what they saw to Gabreski tower and requested clearance to leave the pattern to investigate. Interestingly, Meyers DETAILED presentation earlier noted documents his later contentions that what he saw was a missile shootdown of the 747 at 13,780 feet. Keep in mind the "shootdown" would have had to occur at 8:31:11 at that altitude. Yet, he obviously did not and could not have seen a "shootdown" of the airliner at 13,780 feet only 3 to 4 seconds before he saw the massive fireball explosion well over a mile lower in the sky. How big was the massive fireball explosion? http://www.multipull.com/twacasefile/aviator.html is the personally prepared detail report of witnesses Sven Faret Ken Wendell who flew over to the smoke cloud it left and found its top to be at 7700 feet. A Missile Hugger has calculated that the massive fireball explosion was 2000+ feet in diameter. If the bottom of the massive fireball explosion was "about a mile above the surface" as alleged by officialdom and if the massive fireball was 2000+
[CTRL] Fwd: Catch 22 For The NTSB - Part 2
[continued from Part 1] NTSB Chairman Hall's high-level background briefings for reporters also undermined the FBI. Hall and other NTSB senior staff ridiculed competing theories of the case, misleading the press and public to believe that only the accidental-explosion theory--for which there still isn't any conclusive evidence--could explain TWA 800's destruction. Despite the salt-water immersion, traces of military high-explosives components PETN and RDX were found on the plane's wreckage. Kallstrom thought he had the evidence he'd been searching for, especially after his agents checked the aircraft logs for TWA 800 and found no sign of recent use of the plane to transport explosives or conduct canine bomb-detection tests. The FAA subsequently claimed that logs of canine bomb tests are not maintained by individual airplanes, but by local police agencies. A check with the St. Louis Airport Police showed a test was carried out on a wide- body jet on June 10, 1996, about a month before the TWA 800 explosion. No records of the test were kept. The sole policeman who carried it out was seen by no other aircraft crew or witnesses. He did not note the tail number of the aircraft. Two months later, when interviewed by the FBI on September 20, 1996, he recalled it was a 747 jet. One of the explosives used in the test was a 1.4 pound block of C-4, a military high explosive. The patrolman told the FBI that the plastic wrapping for the explosive was partially disintegrated. There were two wide-bodied jets parked nearby on June 10. Because the patrolman did not note the plane's tail number (TWA 800, parked at Gate 50, was 17119) it is possible he confused the planes. It is hard to reconcile the patrolman's timeline for the dog test with the records of when the aircraft departed Gate 50. If the patrolman is correct, it means after his test was complete the pilot and crew boarded the aircraft, conducted all pre-flight procedures and checklists, completed boarding and seating passengers, and pulled away from the gate in less than half an hour. Even assuming that the test was indeed carried out on TWA 800, the mystery remains how such casual contamination could leave traces of explosive after weeks of immersion in salt water. Both FBI laboratory and independent scientific tests show that within 24 hours salt water washes away all traces of high explosives. After Kallstrom won his White House battle for permission to re-create the airplane at Calverton, the FBI and the NTSB sought outside experts to examine the damage patterns. All agreed that the center fuel tank had exploded catastrophically. The question was, how? Salinger's sensational theory about a missile strike had unfortunately obscured and discredited the very real prospect that a MANPAD (man-portable air defense system, better known as a shoulder-fired rocket) hit TWA 800. In more than 100 cases around the world, shoulder-fired rockets have been used to down large aircraft. At first the probability that TWA 800 was struck by such a missile seemed remote. The plane's altitude of 13,700 feet was at the outer limit of a MANPAD "footprint," the necessary flight path the missile would have taken to hit the plane. But it was a possibility that Kallstrom took seriously-- more seriously than has ever before been disclosed. FBI Special Agent Steve Bongart worked the missile team. An FBI agent was assigned to accompany the salvage teams as parts of the aircraft were identified and then removed from the ocean floor. Each agent was issued a nine-page "Trawler Operations Manual" featuring debris unique to a missile, including the ejector cans that would be left after a Stinger launch, the expendable battery, and a picture of the distorted shape a small rocket body might take after passing through an aircraft the size of a 747. "Twisted like a corkscrew," one observer put it. The manual instructed the agents to pick up every piece of man-made debris found in the search field. But no "eureka" piece from a missile was found. As the wreckage at Calverton took shape, the FBI called on military experts from the Defense Department to help analyze the probability that a surface- to- air missile hit TWA 800. The military teams had far more experience in air crashes involving rockets than either the FBI or the NTSB had. In fact, as Kallstrom found early on, no one in the world had a good forensic, courtroom- evidence-standard database of the damage missiles do to large aircraft. In addition to Navy teams from China Lake, whose active presence in the probe has been acknowledged publicly, the FBI drew on other centers of military expertise including Missile Space Intelligence Center at Huntsville, Alabama, and Air Force teams from Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. Using computerized DOD databases, the military experts concluded that a Stinger could have hit the aircraft even at its 13,700- foot elevation. Cummock says the Clinton appointees "had a ton of
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-128, Peace 22, July 27 - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's Kosovo War and Peace
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA All 127 earlier Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's Kosovo War and "Peace" can also be seen at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org, along with numerous photos and other memorable images. The TiM GW Bulletins are now divided into two sections: NATO's War (106 issues) and NATO's "Peace" (22 issues). Also check out the (gruesome) updates and photos to our last Kosovo "Peace" TIM GW Bulletin - about the murder of the 14 Serb farmers who were harvesting wheat - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/Peace/ps21.html when they were killed and mutilated. Issue S99-128, "Peace" 22 -- July 27, 1999 HEADLINES London 1. A Kosovo Gypsy: We Cannot Live with Albanians Any More. They are animals. Rijeka 2. Conspiracy of Silence: Plight of the Kosovo Romany (Gypsies) Detailed Belgrade 3. Kosovo Heroin Mafia Thriving Under KFOR Serbia 4. A Letter from a Hungarian in Serbia: Zivela Srbija! (Long Live Serbia! -- 1. A Kosovo Gypsy: We Cannot Live with Albanians Any More. They are animals. LONDON, July 24 - Although more than 100,000 Serbs have fled the KLA terror and the KFOR peace since the end of the NATO air campaign, the Serbs are not the only Kosovo minority suffering from the ethnic cleansing being carried out by the Albanians. The Romany (Gypsies), ethnic Turks, and even local Albanians who refused to support the KLA terrorists, have been brutally evicted from their homes, some beaten or murdered, too. John Laughland, who reports for the London Times from Kosovo, recently described the current humanitarian tragedy as follows: Within a month of the end of the bombing campaign against Yugoslavia, NATO governments and Belgrade have struck up a curious alliance. They are united in a conspiracy of silence about the tens of thousands of Serb and Gypsy refugees from Kosovo, driven from their homes by Albanians. So Laughland took it upon himself to tour some of the refugee camps. And what he saw were tens of thousands of poor terrified people are an ideological threat to Tony Blair as much as they are to Slobodan Milosevic. From which the London Times correspondent concludes: For Nato, the flood of refugees destroys the fiction that the war was fought for moral principles. Time and again during the war Mr. Blair said, This is not a war for territory but for values. Ethnic cleansing was unacceptable and had to be stopped. However, if this were the real reason for the war, NATO should logically be now bombing the Albanian capital, Tirana, or attacking the KLA headquarters all over the province. Instead, NATO is turning a blind eye to Albanian atrocities. Far from exerting pressure on the KLA, Mr. Blair was photographed recently enjoying a convivial joke with its leader, Hashim Thaci. And while the International Criminal Tribunal prosecutor, Louise Arbour, is travelling in Kosovo to draw attention to Serb atrocities against Albanians months ago, she is ignoring atrocities now being committed by Albanians under her very nose. The West even looks the other way, despite its huge military presence in the province, as the Albanian Mafia charges Albanian refugees ransom money before allowing them to leave the camps and return home. Serb and Gypsy refugees, pouring across the border in their hundreds every day, told me how they were chased from homes which were then burned before their eyes; how women had been raped; how neighbors had been shot or had their throats slit. They also said Albanians were killing loyal Albanians - Kosovars who had worked for the Yugoslav state, for instance as postmen or in factories. [ ] The Gypsies' fate is particularly tragic. All over Eastern Europe they are a persecuted minority. Only in Serbia, it appears, did they live free from discrimination. But Albanians seem to have a particular hatred for them. I was taken to a former Gypsy quarter in the town of Kosovska Mitrovica: all the houses stood empty, torched and smashed up by Albanians. We cannot live with the Albanians any more, cried one desperate Gypsy woman waiting by the roadside with her family and a few suitcases. They are animals. --- 2. Conspiracy of Silence: Plight of the Kosovo Romany (Gypsies) Detailed RIJEKA, July 26 - With the foregoing Laughland piece about the Kosovo peace as an introduction, here are now some firsthand testimonies by the Kosovo Gypsies who have managed to escape to Croatia. The Association of the Romany of Croatia, which has published the original testimonies, has asked Slobodan Drenovac of Rijeka to translate them into English, before presenting them to the NATO embassies and at the press conference in Zagreb. Here are some excerpts, for example, from a testimony by Dzemail
Re: [CTRL] America: A Filthy Police State
-Caveat Lector- Isn't the point that this isn't about anti-social ideologies portrayed by musicians, but a further need by authority to squeeze harder on the liberty of reasonable people. Sure, a social indicator of anti-establishment sentiment might be some groupX, but this doesn't identify who the social criminals really are. We all know that on this list - that Led Zepplin = Petty low capital crime, so lets take this simplistic low IQ rubbish further and make the assertion that: Mozart, Wagner, Bach [+ Klintons favourite Group] = Serious High capital crime. Surely a Mozart Bumper Sticker would give everybody immunity from arrest if the police really are that superficial ??? Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Christian Common Law Institute: Votescam:
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="http://www.coolmedia.net/nbn/votescam.html"Christian Common Law Institute: Votescam: Elect /A - Lawgiver.Org The Christian Common Law Institute "For the Lord is Our Judge, the Lord is Our Lawgiver, the Lord is Our King; He will save us" -Isaiah 33:22 The following is a satirical parody based on the November 2, 1998 release by ABCNEWS.com© of "election results" the evening before the purported election. The figures and percentages used are accurate according to their "pre-release" and the purported "final vote". Following this is a message from James Collier, co-author of Votescam: The Stealing of America, which helps explain how the "media" knew these figures long before the un-elections ever took place. http://www.defnews.com/votescam.html Wednesday, November 4, 1998 Continuously reload this page for the latest VoteScam returns DEFNEWS.com VOTESCAM '98 "More U.S. Citizens under martial law get their news before it's ever the news from DEFNEWS.com than any other Federal Government information source" GOVERNOR'S RACES SPECIAL GOVERNOR (UN)ELECTION REPORT (JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE KNEW THE DAY BEFORE) a DEFNEWS.com NEWS EXCLUSIVE by DEFNEWS.com's 20/200 host Dam Sonaldson The day before the non-elections, because of information we received from Janet Reno our confidential election sources, DEFNEWS.com on November 02, 1998 already knew miraculously predicted the average percentage of the winner's vote as 57.55 %. The day after the (un)elections, with 100% of the VoteScam Federal Districts reporting, our DEFNEWS.com November 04, 1998 actual winner average percent of vote was 57.36 %. Aren't we amazing! Our margin of error was only 0.19% ! Key to the below information FEDERAL STATE NOV 2 "PREDICTION" PERCENTAGE NOV 3 "WINNER" PERCENTAGE DISCREPANCY PERCENTAGE: COMMENTS THE VALEDICTORIAN LIST ALABAMA SIEGELMAN 58% SIEGELMAN 58% 0%: "Watchdog" Wallace is gone, so now it's alot easier ARIZONA HULL 60% HULL 60% 0%: Don't anger the indians in Phoenix...they own the airport COLORADO OWENS 49% OWENS 49% 0%: Ski resorts are real good places to hide FLORIDA BUSH 55% BUSH 55% 0%: George's little boy... got any questions? GEORGIA BARNES 53% BARNES 53% 0%: Keep the south quiet and tax 'em some more RHODE ISLAND ALMOND 51% ALMOND 51% 0%: Named for our mentor Cecil Rhodes, who else! THE "GIVE 'EM A LITTLE EXTRA BOOST" LIST ALASKA KNOWLES 63% KNOWLES 65% +2%: Part payment still due to the Russians HAWAII *(LINGLE predicted with 53%)) CAYETANO 46% CAYETANO 50% +4%: Big deal... Don Ho wasn't running anyway KANSAS GRAVES 68% GRAVES 73% +5%: Previous credit due to Bob Dole was applied MARYLAND GLENDENING 52% GLENDENING 56% +4%: It's an even number and it looks good NEVADA GUINN 48% GUINN 51% +3%: It's a lucky number and we like it, OK? NEW MEXICO JOHNSON 49% JOHNSON 54% +5%: We really thought he was LBJ SOUTH DAKOTA JANKLOW 58% JANKLOW 64% +6%: Small population...who cares? WISCONSIN THOMPSON 58% THOMPSON 60% +2%: We like the Green Bay Packers THE "TAKE 'EM DOWN A NOTCH OR TWO" LIST ARKANSAS HUCKABEE 62% HUCKABEE 60% -2%: 6 out of 10 sounds much better IOWA VILSACK 55% VILSACK 52% -3%: Wasn't he Horshack's cousin? MICHIGAN ENGLER 65% ENGLER 62% -3%: Edsels were really ugly cars NEW HAMPSHIRE SHAHEEN 68% SHAHEEN 65% -3%: We didn't like Charlie "Sheen" anyway OREGON KITZHABER 66% KITZHABER 63% -3%: 66 was too close to 666 PENNSYLVANIA RIDGE 60% RIDGE 58% -2%: They let the Quakers vote? SOUTH CAROLINA HODGES 54% HODGES 53% -1%: What's just 1% anyway? TEXAS BUSH 69% BUSH 68% -1%: George owed us 1% from his first election WYOMING GERINGER 58% GERINGER 56% -2%: We think "Beringer" wine is much better THE "DON'T MAKE IT LOOK TOO OBVIOUS THEY WON" LIST CONNECTICUT ROWLAND 71% ROWLAND 63% -8%: Whose submarine shot down TWA 800 from New Groton? IDAHO KEMPTHORNE 74% KEMPTHORNE 68% -6%: Too many spuds in the potatoes ILLINOIS RYAN 60% RYAN 51% -9%: We made it look like a close one just for fun MAINE KING 66% KING 59% -7%: A really bad lobster season MASSACHUSETS CELLUCCI 55% CELLUCCI 51% -4%: Ted still owes us for the Mary Jo coverup NEBRASKA JOHANNS 59% JOHANNS 54% -5%: We were confusing him with Bach all the time OHIO TAFT 57% TAFT 50% -7%: Chill out... He still won, OK? OKLAHOMA KEATING 65% KEATING 58% -7%: Was riding too high on the OKC publicity VERMONT DEAN 63% DEAN 56% -7%: The maple syrup has too many additives THE "MAKE IT LOOK VERY OBVIOUS THEY WON" LIST CALIFORNIA DAVIS 49% DAVIS 58% +9%: Lot's of karma there leftover from Ron Reagan NEW YORK PATAKI 43% PATAKI 55% +12%: We're still confused... just what is a Pataki? TENNESSEE SUNDQUIST 58% SUNDQUIST 69% +11%: "Sunkist" oranges are good for you THE "IT'S JUST TOO COLD
[CTRL] ARTICLES REQUIRED !!! Contributors PAID!!! (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:33:40 + From: Philip Mantle - QUEST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Articles required!! Contributors paid Dear All, I'm the Editor of a new British newsstand magazine entitled BEYOND and we are interesting in hearing from anyone interested in writing for us. All contributors are paid and the details are as follows. Subscribers will notice that the subject material is very similar in content to the issues discussed on this list; The magazine itself will concentrate upon balanced reporting of the following subjects: Extra Terrestrial Intelligence/SETI Mind Power Natural and Unnatural Phenomena Space Travel Our Planets The Living Earth UFOs/UAP Investigative reporting Future Hazards Scientific Speculation, Prediction and Investigation Secret Technology We are particularly looking for contributions on out-of-body experiences, and near-death experiences, earth mysteries, and the planets. The magazine will be monthly and will have an approximate circulation of 12,15-000. Uri Geller will be associated with the magazine from the start. Contributors will be paid 60 days after publication date upon receipt of a numbered invoice which can be mailed or faxed to the publishers, Top Events Ltd. Articles are usually a maximum 2,500 words based upon our standard 650 word page (9.5 pt). Please do not hesitate to contact us for further information. Thanks!! Tim Matthews (Editor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philip Mantle (Commissioning Editor). [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE FORWARD TO OTHER POSSIBLE INTERESTED PARTIES. = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fight VOTESCAM in Your Communities
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.parascope.com/mx/votesca2.htm A HREF="http://www.parascope.com/mx/votesca2.htm"Fight VOTESCAM in Your Communities /A - Fight VOTESCAM in Your Communities Computer voting is dangerous and unnecessary. Ballot boxes cannot be programmed; manipulating physical ballots requires much more effort than hacking a vote tabulation program. Where votes are tallied by computer, citizens have little hope of uncovering and proving the existence of vote fraud, in spite of whatever circumstantial evidence may exist. Work at the precinct level to re-establish ballot boxes in your area, and observe voting practices in your locality. Take notes, and videotape procedures whenever possible. Tape conversations, and be sure to have witnesses with you. Take the day off work and head for the closest precinct. (And don't feel bad about it--voting day should be a holiday in America anyway.) Organize with VOTESCAM investigators in your area, or start your own group. Demand paper ballots! Your actions will accomplish several goals: you will help uncover voting abuses, and you will act as a deterrent to corruption at the ballot box. Not only that, but you'll soon develop a more intimate understanding of the voting process and realize what it means to be a REAL American: paranoid, butt-headed, and NOT to be screwed with. Also write your state and national legislators to alert them of any information you uncover. Hold their feet to the fire, and demand an investigation of the Voters News Service. To assist Jim Condit's investigation, call 513-471-1500, or write Cincinnatus PAC, P.O. Box 11339, Cincinatti, Ohio 45211. Also check out the Cincinnatus PAC web site at http://www.networkusa.org Read Jim and Ken Colliers' book, "VOTESCAM," available for $12.50 (shipping handling included) from The Baker Report, 3615 W. Waters Ave., Suite 308, Tampa, Florida 33614. Audio cassettes of Condit's interview on The CDR Info Hour are also available from The Baker Report for $10.00. For more information on voting fraud in American see the November 7, 1988 issue of New Yorker Magazine. Now get to work! [Special thanks to Jackie Patru, Dan Druck and the Council on Domestic Relations. Join the freedom fight by contacting them at: P.O. Box 138, Carlinville, Illinois, 62626. Phone 708-471-6747. Fax 847-854-8403. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] The CDR web page is at http://www.logoplex.com (in "shops").] 1. Cheated at the Electronic Ballat Box - 2.VOTESCAM in the 1996 Republican Primaries? 3.Fight VOTESCAM in Your Communities - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Staggering Numbers
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.gatewayva.com/rtd/dailynews/virginia/pot0726.shtml Going to pot: Weed making comeback / Marijuana growing on rise in Va. Monday, July 26, 1999 BY REX BOWMAN Times-Dispatch Staff Writer ROANOKE -- Some speak about the moonshining that goes on in the western hills of Virginia as if the illicit trade defines the state's lawless spirit; but bootleg whiskey is only half the story. The other half is marijuana. In Virginia's cornfields, in roadside ditches, greenhouses and national forests, on back porches and mountain slopes, alongside railroad tracks, beneath power lines and around the muddy banks of swimming holes, marijuana plants are growing tall and in abundance. More than ever, law enforcement officials say, pot growers are staking their claim to the commonwealth's fertile soil. But they're becoming as wily as the secretive moonshiners: Police say the trend over the past few years is for professional pot growers to spread their lucrative crop out over many plots, reducing the chances that agents will find and seize all their plants. Consequently, while arrests are up, seizures are down. "You used to have large plots with 2,000, with 3,000, or with 6,000 plants, and commercial airliners could look down and see them from 20,000 feet," said state police 1st Sgt. J.C. Lewis, statewide coordinator for marijuana eradication. "Now, instead of putting all their eggs in one basket, they may have five or six plots with 100 or 200 plants each." Agents are also turning up more small operations where growers lavish their attention on no more than 20 plants, said state police Lt. Mark Petska, deputy assistant director of the Drug Enforcement Division. Baby boomers who learned to roll joints and toke on bongs in the tie-dyed '60s are beginning to grow their own, keeping some for themselves and selling the rest to an intimate circle of friends, Petska theorized. Marijuana use among teen-agers, meanwhile, is up from a decade ago, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. It all adds up to one thing, say proponents of legalizing marijuana: Time for the law to cry uncle. Despite the millions of dollars spent to stamp out Virginia's massive marijuana crop, they say, the legions of pot smokers and growers have been undeterred, and as things now stand, the "war" against this particular drug is a quagmire of wasted resources. "You can only fail so much before people start questioning the public policy, and the policy is a failure," said Lennice Werth, a Crewe resident and head of Virginians Against Drug Violence. "And it's not even a policy, it's a crusade. We're against prohibition because the prohibition of drugs is what causes drug-related violence." A House of Representatives subcommittee recently turned back various drug-legalization proposals. Werth conceded that Virginia's General Assembly will likely be as unreceptive to any legalization plans. "Legislators are followers, not leaders," she said, "so it's up to the public to lead on this." Though Virginia law enforcement officials claim to arrest more pot growers per capita than most other states, it's tough to make a dent in the unlawful trade because the Old Dominion is such a large producer. The state agriculture department keeps no statistics on marijuana, but the Washington-based National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws estimates that marijuana is the commonwealth's largest cash crop, surpassing even tobacco. Saying that its numbers are conservative and based on DEA's eradication data, NORML estimates that Virginia pot growers in 1997 harvested more than 121,600 plants worth $197 million. Nationwide, pot wholesale revenues ranged between $15.1 billion and $26.3 billion. Lewis, the state police marijuana eradication coordinator, said he couldn't begin to estimate the value of Virginia's crop. "It's grown throughout the whole state, in back yards, in gardens, on mountain tops," Lewis said. "It's everywhere." No more so than in western Virginia, which has two contraband capitals, according to Petska. If Rocky Mount is the center of the state's moonshining trade, he said, then Roanoke is the heart of pot country. The Allegheny highlands north of the city feature vast forests and hidden hollows that make it difficult for agents to spot marijuana fields. The rugged terrain south and west of Roanoke is largely rural and ideal for pot growers looking to stay out of sight. And where once the area around Wytheville was the site of some of the most high-intensity pot farming, Petska said, the illicit agriculture in recent years has spread east, to Pulaski, Floyd, Franklin and Henry counties, where rural landscapes and woodlands abound. "Unlike Norfolk, for instance, you don't have houses on top of each other and large subdivisions," Lewis said. "In Roanoke and Salem, or around there, you can
[CTRL] Does Your Vote Really Count?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://thenewamerican.com/tna//1996/vo12no21/vo12no21_vote.htm A HREF="http://thenewamerican.com/tna//1996/vo12no21/vo12no21_vote.htm"The New American - Does Your Vote Really Count? /A - Vol. 12, No. 21 October 14, 1996 Table of Contents Does Your Vote Really Count? by Robert W. Lee There are many reasons why eligible voters opt to forego visits to the polls on election day. Apathy is one. Distaste for (or, perhaps, satisfaction with) all candidates on the electoral menu is another. Some of anarchistic bent conclude that it is improper to participate in a governmental process when government is the enemy. Perhaps most disturbing, however, is the notion, presently circulating in some conservative circles, that the results of key elections are determined in advance by sinister forces willing and able to steal votes through fraud. Why bother to vote, ask proponents of this theory, if your ballot is to be neutralized by such chicanery? It is a dangerous and seriously flawed notion, especially when combined with the added claim, also circulating, that the Constitution has been suspended.* * See "Is the Constitution Suspended?" in our February 5, 1996 issue. It can lead to a sense of hopelessness that causes one to "drop out" of the system in despair -- or, worse yet, reach a level of frustration that entices one to become associated with extremist movements that utilize extra-legal means to achieve their supposedly anti-government ends. While there are indeed serious flaws in the ground rules by which our elections are presently conducted, and the potential for vote fraud is disturbingly high (and enhanced by mechanical and computerized voting devices that leave no paper trail by which controversial elections can be authenticated), it is important to keep matters in perspective. It makes no sense for otherwise patriotic Americans to allow themselves to be driven from the polls (thereby helping to assure the election of collectivists) or enticed into law-breaking fringe movements (which provide the excuse for government to expand its police-state power in the guise of coping with such "right-wing extremists"). Vote fraud and rigged elections are neither new nor peculiar to the United States, but are an unfortunate attribute of any political system in which the governed are authorized to vote. There is little reason to believe that the votes we cast today are any less meaningful than those cast by our forebears in earlier eras. Now, as then, the vast majority of winners are those who actually do receive the most votes. Then, as now, there were notable exceptions that are familiar because they are exceptions. Consider the 1876 presidential contest between Republican Rutherford B. Hayes and Democrat Samuel J. Tilden, which was arguably the most unscrupulous presidential election in our history. Tilden received 261,035 more popular votes than did Hayes (out of more than 8.3 million cast) and held an undisputed lead in states with 184 electoral votes, one short of the 185 required for victory. "However," write University of Virginia professor of government Larry J. Sabato and journalist Glenn R. Simpson in Dirty Little Secrets (1996), "twenty electoral votes in Florida, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Oregon were in dispute. Tilden had actually carried the first three of these states, but GOP-controlled election boards disqualified enough Democratic votes, for dubious reasons, to potentially tip the states to Hayes." In January 1877, Congress passed legislation establishing a 15-member Electoral Commission to settle the dispute between Hayes and Tilden. The panel was supposed to be non-partisan, but when the dust cleared it was comprised of eight Republicans and seven Democrats. By strict party-line votes of eight to seven, the commission gave each disputed vote -- and the election by a single-vote margin -- to Hayes. The Hayes-Tilden episode brings to mind the arrogant question posed by Tammany Hall boss William Marcy Tweed in 1871: "As long as I count the votes, what are you going to do about it?" In similar spirit, Soviet despot Josef Stalin once observed that it does not matter who votes, but rather who counts the votes. Daley Delivery? The 1960 presidential contest between Democrat John F. Kennedy and Republican Richard M. Nixon also raised the specter of vote fraud in the key states of Illinois (27 electoral votes) and Texas (24 votes), both of which JFK is said to have narrowly won. Kennedy bested Nixon in the nationwide popular vote by a razor-thin margin of 118,574 (out of more than 68.8 million cast). In the all-important Electoral College, he received 303 votes to Nixon's 219, with 269 required to win. Had Nixon carried both Illinois and Texas, he would have eked out a 270-vote Electoral College victory. Sabato and Simpson write, "Strong suspicions exist that the Illinois electoral votes were stolen for Kennedy by Mayor Richard J. Daley, who late on election night
[CTRL] James Collier responds to Does Your Vote Really Count?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://thenewamerican.com/tna//1996/vo12no24/vo12no24_editor.htm A HREF="http://thenewamerican.com/tna//1996/vo12no24/vo12no24_editor.htm"The New American - Letters to the Editor - Nove /A - Both Collier Brothers have passed on. Interesting JBS arguing against a conspiracy . . . they're(Collier brothers) just a bunch of hippes what do they know? Om K - Vol. 12, No. 24 November 25, 1996 Table of Contents Letters to the Editor Brickbats from Votescam Author Im sure the intent of the article by Robert W. Lee (October 14th issue, Does Your Vote Really Count?) was to destroy the credibility of my book Votescam: The Stealing of America. Based on the feedback I have received, he has failed miserably. Most knowledgeable people feel that Lees article was merely a dreadful bit of bad reporting and purposeful distortion. Lets start with Lees assertion that people such as Pat Robertson and Mike Wallace did not report on the book due to its lack of credibility. Votescam clearly states that Gaeton Fonzi, one of the top investigators in the country, and Brian Ross, NBCs chief investigative reporter, quoted Wallace as saying: Votescam is a scandal of major proportions. In 1994 I personally handed Wallace the Votescam book and he said: Jim, as far as this book is concerned, I have permanent Alzheimers. Pat Roberston paid $2,500 to show the Votescam video shot in Miami (showing the League of Women Voters using pencils to punch holes in the computer vote card) just once on his 700 Club. ABCs Supreme Court correspondent, Tim OBrien, was prepared to air the tape nationally when he was stopped by his bosses. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, when she served on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington, ruled that our evidence was worth a full hearing. All of that is in the book. How could Robert Lee have possibly missed it? Lee also excuses Elvera Radford, former Election Supervisor of Cincinnati, for officially issuing 98 cent tweezers to the League of Women Voters. We videotaped them plucking out a slate of candidates on the computer-ballot card. Lee said that nobody was prosecuted, thereby assuming that it was an honest way of handling the votes. He reports: ... merely tapping a card loosens the chad, but in some instances tweezers are necessary. The videotape we shot shows blistered vote cards, not hanging chad that could be whisked away. Mr. Lee should ask himself why the Elections Division presupposed hanging chad, then hired a contingent of women (at taxpayers expense) and issued them tweezers where a flick of the finger would have been sufficient. In fact, the act of issuing pencils (as they did in Miami) or tweezers in Cincinnati, or hors doeuvres sticks in California, is illegal. To allow a private group of people to determine voter intent is a third-degree felony. He continues that it is truly remarkable, if the videotape actually documented the illegalities they allege, that no prosecution followed. I cannot believe Mr. Lee is so naive as to assume that the District Attorney of Cincinnati or then-State Attorney in Miami, Janet Reno, would automatically order prosecution in politically controlled cities. As detailed in Votescam, when Attorney Ellis Rubin, appointed by the Miami Circuit Court, brought our evidence of vote fraud to Janet Reno in Dade County, she told Rubin that prosecution would bring down too many people, including judges and news media heads. Mr. Lee claims there is no hard evidence of vote fraud in the Arizona primary, when in fact the Maricopa County Elections Department printed 60,000 extra vote cards and issued them to privileged voters so that they could vote twice. I have documented this evidence and Pat Buchanan is aware of it. However, Mr. Lee alibies for the duplicate cards, saying there is no credible evidence the duplicate cards resulted in multiple voting. There is indeed credible evidence they were voted twice. I interviewed the election chief of Maricopa County and was told that ten people were hired after the election to punch 219,000 seven-digit numbers into a computer. The seven-digit number was an identification number on the ballot card. When a voter registers in a precinct, the card is punched so it cannot be voted twice, and the seven-digit number is recorded in the precinct. The elections chief said the ten worked for 34 hours after the election punching approximately 1.5 million digits (219,000 voters times seven-digit ID numbers) into computers. It would have meant punching one digit per second into the computer, without a break, for 12 hours. She said only two numbers came up twice out of 60,000. I asked for the names of those ten people. She refused to give them. I asked for the readouts which showed the 219,000 numbers punched in. She again refused. To this date, no citizen in Maricopa County has been able to obtain names of those supposed ten people who surely must be suffering
[CTRL] Votescam - Chapter 1
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.copi.com/VOTESCAM/VSCM_01.HTM A HREF="http://www.copi.com/VOTESCAM/VSCM_01.HTM"Votescam - Chapter 1/A - 1 ELECTRONIC HOODWINK "We can now speak the most Majestic words a democracy can offer: 'The people have spoken' .. " -First words spoken by President-elect, George Bush, November 8, 1988 victory speech in Houston, Texas, 11:30 PM EST "Once, during the time when days were darkest I made a promise. Thanks, New Hampshire!" Same speech, final words. It was not "the People" of the United States of America who did "the speaking" on that election day, although most of them believed it was, and still believe so. In fact, the People did not speak at all, and George Bush may have known it or, at least, strongly suspected it. The voices most of us really heard that day were the voices of computers - strong, loud, authoritative, unquestioned in their electronic finality. The computers counted more than 55 million American votes in 1988 - more than enough to swing election after election across the nation. In that election, a difference of just 535,000 or so votes would have put Dukakis into the White House. The computers that spoke in November 1988 held in their inner workings small boxes that contained secret codes that only the sellers of the computers could read. The programs, or Source codes," were regarded as "trade secrets." The sellers of the vote-counting software zealously guarded their programs from the public, from election officials, from everyone on the dubious grounds that competitors could steal their ideas if the source codes were open to inspection. You may ask: What "ideas" does it require to count something as simple as ballots? Can the "ideas" be much more complex than, let's say, a supermarket computerized cash register or an automatic bank teller machine? The computer voting machines do not have to do anything complicated at all; they simply must be able to register votes for the correct candidate or party or proposal, tabulate them, count them up, and deliver arithmetically correct additions. People with no formal training, even children, used to do it all the time... ...potently candid study of the U.S. electoral system conducted in 1980 by the CIA-linked Air Command and Staff College in cooperation with the University of New Mexico. It establishes the TV corporate networks' interest in NES. The study was commissioned by the CIA and published in the International Journal of Public Administration that was distributed to selected government agencies. We discovered a copy in the Library of Congress. It is safe to say that almost nobody in America is aware of the activities of NES on election night. The on-air scripts of each TV network during the years since the founding of NES have seldom, if ever, mentioned its existence. The silence smacks of collusion among press "competitors" to keep NES away from public scrutiny. A portion of the study read: "The United States government has no elections office and does not attempt to administer congressional elections. The responsibility for the administration of elections and certification of winners in the United States national election rests with a consortium of private entities, including 111,000 members of the national League of Women Voters. The formal structure of election administration in the United States is not capable of providing the major TV networks with timely results of the presidential and congressional elections. In the case of counting actual ballots on national election night, public officials have abdicated responsibility of aggregation of election night vote totals to a private organization, News Election Service of New York (NES). NES is a wholly-owned subsidiary joint-venture of national television networks ABC, CBS and NBC and the press wire-services AP and UPI. This private organization performs without a contract: without supervision by public officials. It makes decisions concerning its duties according to its own criteria. The question and accountability of News Election Service has not arisen in the nation's press because the responsibility NES now has in counting the nation's votes was assumed gradually over a lengthy period without ever being evaluated as an item on the public agenda. (Underlined for emphasis. Ed.) This privately owned vote counting cartel (NES) uses the vast membership of the network-subsidized League of Women Voters as field personnel whose exclusive job is to phone in unofficial vote totals to NES on election night. NES also operates a "master computer" in New York City, located on
[CTRL] ON TV NOW: Consperacy Theory on the NET
-Caveat Lector- Rivera Live on CNBC is regarding the propagation of conspiracy theories in the day of the internet. He has various experts on, a few web site conspiracy "experts," i.e., the author of www.conspire.com and others. Someone from this list should have been called on, FOR SURE! = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] information on mind control and cults
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Here is some information on mind control and cults. Sincerely, Neil Brick PS I also wanted to let ritual abuse survivors know that there will be a conference in a few weeks. Details are at: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/SMART-1999-Conference.htm IMO, his book is excellent : "Combatting Cult Mind Control" - S. Hassan, Park Street Press, One Park St, Rochester, VT 05767 http://www.shassan.com/faq.htm#6 Copyright ©1999, Steve Hassan Freedom of Mind Selected excerpts: What is the difference between a destructive cult and a cult? Essentially a destructive cult is a pyramid-shaped authoritarian regime with a person or group of people that have dictatorial control. It uses deception in recruiting new members (e.g. people are NOT told up front what the group is, what the group actually believes and what will be expected of them if they become members). It also uses mind control techniques to keep people dependent and obedient. Destructive cults try to "clone" people to become small versions of the cult leader, rather than respect people's individuality, creativity and self-will. Cult groups are any group of people who have a set of beliefs and rituals which are non-mainstream. As long as people are freely able to choose to join with full disclosure of the group's doctrine and practices and can choose to disaffiliate without fear or harassment, then it doesn't fall under the behavioral/ psychological destructive cult category. Of course, there are also those groups which are anti-social (e.g. the KKK, nazis, white supremacists) which teach hate openly which can certainly be considered to be destructive also. Are all destructive cults religious? No, in addition to religious cults, there are therapy cults, political cults, business cults. Destructive relationships and destructive psychological influence can take place in small numbers (one person controlling another person, for example) or in groups that become political state/cults which contain millions of citizens. Many destructive cults encompass religious, political and business enterprises. Are all cults equally as bad? No, there are definitely wide variations among different organizations. Aum Shinrikyo, the Japanese "nerve gas" cult, used physical imprisonment, illegal drugs, and forms of torture to indoctrinate new members. People would be forced to turn over all of their assets and cut off from their families and friends. If members tried to leave the group or oppose its leadership, often they would be killed. This is vastly different from large group "training" programs which merely use hypnotic techniques to get you to believe the leader is the "messiah" and which inculcates the membership to recruit all of their families and friends. Is all mind control bad? "Mind Control" as described in my book is certainly focused on the abuses of the knowledge of the mind. However, I believe that many mind control techniques (such as hypnosis, visualizations, meditating, prayer, ritual, altered breathing) can be used ethically and to great positive benefit, providing the locus of control is within the individual and there is no hidden agenda to have people submit and turn over their power to some other human being. Being in control of your own mind includes being in touch with your feelings, having the ability to think analytically, question, look at issues from multiple perspectives, having control of your behavior to take periodic "time-outs" in order to reflect and be able to have access to information which may be "negative" to the group leadership. Why do destructive cults say that you are anti-religious or bigoted? Destructive cults have a long history of manufacturing propaganda against "enemies". Groups have mounted a campaign to attempt to convince members and the general public not to listen to me or read my materials because too many people were leaving their ranks. I am a human rights activist who very much values my spirituality as the core of my existence. I pray and meditate daily. My work has received endorsements from virtually every major religious denomination. I definitely believe in a God who created us with free-will and wants us to use our minds to live lives of love, peace, beauty, and goodness. My work has grown out of my own desire to grow in understanding and to help people to realize that they need not be psychologically constricted. I am a licensed mental health counselor. I got my Master's degree from Cambridge College in 1985, and have taken the time and undertaken the expense to receive counseling training from some of the top people in America and the world. I have experience doing individual, couple and family counseling. I teach communications techniques and strategies and encourage a legal approach which I call "strategic interaction therapy". What should I do if I suspect a family member or friend is getting involved with a destructive cult? My best advice is to take a "curious,
[CTRL] klintoon requests new funds 4 FBI [federal bureau of internment]
-Caveat Lector- New Benefit Program! Recently developed as a result of the early tragic demise of one of the Nation's most revered and respected Citizens who gave so much of himself to further the productive cause of indept coverage of the activities of the members of the Establishment. The funding bill was forwarded to the House of Representatives today, where a "bi-partisan" vote is expected; the Author having dispensed wet cigars as an inducement to give favorable consideration. God bless him, and those he took with him. Some details of the proposed legislation: You'll have your choice of, 1. Mausoleum Cyrpt 2. Burial as sea Features available at extra cost; otherwise all will paid for by federal taxpayers. Cost of television coverage extra. This program is limited to federal employees, irrespective of sexuality, race, religious belief (or non-belief), and completes the chain of cradle to grave benefits. Provisions are pending to include all illegal immigrants who falsified their employment applications. "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it; and this I know, my lords, that where laws end, tyranny begins." --- William Pitt "The resistance to a new idea, is increased by the square root of its importance" --- Astronaut Brian O'Leary... IT IS THE LAW: "Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal or moral duty to speak, or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading... We cannot condone this shocking conduct... If this is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of decption will not be torerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately" U.S. v. Twell 550 F2d 297, 299-300 Patrick J. Buchanan Tax Plan: http://www.gopatgo.org/000-c-taxes.html http://www.gopatgo.org/ Alan Keyes Tax Plan: http://keyes2000.org/issues/taxandspend.html http://keyes2000.org The Constitution Party Tax Plan: http://www.constitution.net/policys/tax.htm http://www.constitution.net/ The Draft Jesse Ventura for President Committee Tax Plan (developing): http://news.mpr.org/features/199808/05_mccalluml_venturatax/index.shtml http://www.presidentventura.com/ The Libertarian Party Tax Plan: Select "Text Files" on the Left. http://harrybrowne2000.org/ Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om