[CTRL] I Agree (Clinton)

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> Subject: I Agree...
>
> This letter was written by Eric Jowers, a retired Army Officer,
> who served as public affairs officer at Fort Rucker from 1989 to 1991.
> He now lives in Ozark, Alabama.
> -
> Dear Mr. President:
> It's not about sex.
> If it were about sex, you would be long gone.
> Just like a doctor, attorney or teacher who had
> sex with a patient, client or student half his age,
> you would have violated the ethics of your office
> and would be long gone.
> Just like a Sergeant Major of the Army, Gene McKinney,
> who though found not guilty, was forced to resign
> amid accusations of sexual abuse.
>
> Remember the Air Force General you wouldn't
> nominate to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
> because he freely admitted to an affair almost 15
> years before, while he and his wife were separated?
> Unlike you, he was never accused of having a
> starry-eyed office assistant my daughter's age
> perform oral sex on him while he was on the
> phone and his wife and daughter were upstairs.
>
> If it were about sex, you should be subjected to the
> same horrible hearings that Clarence Thomas was
> subjected to because of the accusations of Anita Hill.
> The only accusation then was that he talked dirty to her;
> he didn't even leave semen stains on her dress.
> No, it's not about sex.
> It's about character.
> It's about lying.
> It's about arrogance.
> It's about abuse of power.
> It's about dodging the draft and lying about it.
> When caught in a lie by letters you wrote,
> you concocted a story that nobody believed.
> But we excused it and looked away.
>
> It's about smoking dope, and lying about it.
> "I didn't inhale," you said.
> Sure, and when I was 15 and my buddies and I
> swiped a beer from an unwatched refrigerator,
> we drank from it, but we didn't swallow.
> "I broke no laws of the United States," you said.
> That's right, you smoked dope in England or Norway or
> Moscow; where you were demonstrating against the U.S.A.
> You lied, but we excused it and looked away.
>
> It's about you selling overnight stays in the White House to
> any foreigner or other contributor with untraceable cash.
> It's about Whitewater and Jim and Susan McDougal and
> Arkansas, Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and Vincent Foster and
> Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones and Karen Willey and
> nearly countless others.
>
> It's about stealing the records from Foster's office while his
> body was still warm and putting them in your bedroom and
> "not noticing them" for two years.
>
> It's about illegal political contributions.
> It's about you and Al Gore soliciting contributions and selling
> influence at Buddhist temples and in the same Oval Office
> where Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt led their
> countries through the dark days of wars that threatened the
> very existence of our nation.
> But we excused you and looked away.
>
> It's about hiding evidence from Ken Starr, refusing to testify,
> filing legal motions, coaching witnesses, obstructing justice
> and delaying Judge Starr's inquiry for months and years,
> and then complaining that it has gone on too long.
> The polls agreed.
> Thank goodness that Judge Starr didn't read the polls,
> play politics or excuse you and look away.
> He held on to the evidence like a tenacious bulldog.
>
> Your supporters say that you've confessed your wrong doings
> and asked for our forgiveness.
> Listen, what you said on TV the night you testified to the grand
> jury was not a confession; overwhelming evidence is not a
> confession at all.
> Not that it would make a lot of difference.
> A murderer who contritely confesses his crime is still a murderer.
> When your "confession" didn't sell, even to your friends, you
> became more forthcoming.
>
> Maybe someday you'll confess more, but probably not.
> You've established such a pattern of lying that we can't
> believe you anymore.
> Neither can your cabinet, the Congress or any of the leaders
> of the nations of the world.
>
> When a leader's actions defame and emasculate our country
> as profoundly as yours have, it's no longer a personal matter,
> as you claim.
> It's no longer a matter among you, your family and your God.
>
> By the way, I don't believe for a minute that Hillary was unaware of
> your sexual misadventures, abuses of power and pattern of lying.
> She has been a party to your wrong doings since Whitewater
> and Jennifer Flowers just as surely as she lied about the Rose
> law firm's billings and hid the Vincent Foster evidence in your
> bedroom for two years.
> Why? So she could share in the raw power that your office carries.
> The two of you probably lied to Chelsea, but that is a matter among
> you, your family and your God.
>
> Remember the sign over James Carvill's desk during the l992 campaign?
> It said, "It's the economy, stupid! Place this sign over your desk:
> "It's about character, stupid!"
> No, it's not about sex, Mr. Presi

Re: [CTRL] quitting

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Don't quit Theryn, get a Yahoo account. You are allowed 3MB of storage.
They don't care in what form or how many emails you get per day. If you
subscribe to more than one list, like I do, get a separate Yahoo
account for each list. I have 11 Yahoo accounts, and they don't give a
hoot that I do. And you can be anyone you want to be. You do need a
non-Yahoo email backup; you can use your hotmail account. That is so if
you are having problems with your Yahoo account, Yahoo can send tech
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[CTRL] Illuminati Symbol Censored from Discovery Channel

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The show about spirits on the Discovery Channel was very interesting, esp.
the part about avowed-Satanist Alister Crowley. In two separate video pans
of images of Crowly, the 'Eye of Horus' symbol over a pyramid was not
shown (censored), apparently the same one on the back of the dollar bill
and also the AOL symbol ;-( and several financial companies, like Fidelity. I
guess the advertisers would not have liked having their symbol associated
with a Satanist who conjured up spirits in order to expand his powers over
other humans. Have a nice day, Lucifer Technologies

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[CTRL] Child Murders Stun Europe - September 2, 1996 Volume 148, No. 11 - TIME International

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 http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/archive/toc/960902.toc.html
 INTERNATIONAL COVER
  UNSPEAKABLE CRIMES:
   Child Murders Stun Europe
After the bodies of two young victims
were unearthed in the backyard of
Marc Dutroux, an unemployed electrician,
shocked Belgians began to learn the extent
of his crimes


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TIME International
September 2, 1996 Volume 148, No. 11

THE TERROR AND PITY

AFTER TWO KIDNAPPED GIRLS
ARE SAVED FROM A HELLHOLE
AND TWO OTHERS ARE FOUND
DEAD, BELGIUM ERUPTS IN FURY
AT A SEX OFFENDER WHOSE
SCHEMES AUTHORITIES DID NOT
TAKE SERIOUSLY

BY JAMES WALSH

Fourteen months ago, Julie Lejeune and Melissa
Russo, both eight years old, were two happy little girls.
Playing in the fields near home, they stopped at
an overpass to wave with delight at cars streaming
down the highway below. Then they vanished.
No word, no trace, no hint of what might have
happened. The day was June 24, 1995, and their
hometown of Grace-Hollogne, a suburb of Liege in
southeastern Belgium, lay at the very heart of
West European civilization. Nearby is the German city
of Aachen, the seat of Charlemagne's court
1,200 years ago, and just downstream on the River Meuse
is Maastricht, birthplace of the European Union.
At this crossroads of five countries, the heir of such a
proud history, how could two sunny children
simply disappear? Like Eurydice, they seemed to have
been swallowed up by the earth, taken to some
netherworld that mortals could only guess and shudder
at.

All guessing ended last week when the netherworld's
curtains parted, and Belgians sensed that their
homeland had suddenly transformed into the heart
of darkness. Amid an outpouring of grief and rage
unlike anything in recent memory, Belgium buried
its smallest of missing citizens in a pair of white
coffins. The Liege funeral, broadcast nationally
on television, followed a week of one shock,
heartbreak and outrage after another. Police had
dug up Julie's and Melissa's bodies in the backyard of
a house owned by Marc Dutroux, 39, an unemployed
electrician who had no fewer than six houses in
and around Charleroi, some 70 km southwest of
Liege. After interrogation, Dutroux had led authorities
to the burial place and admitted killing an accomplice,
Bernard Weinstein, whose body was found in the
same backyard garden. Dutroux also disclosed a
hideaway where two other abducted girls, ages 12
and 14, were still alive. They emerged pale and
tearful from a homemade dungeon hidden behind a
cellar cabinet. The 14-year-old's mother said her
daughter had been drugged and raped several times,
and the 12-year-old had been sexually attacked as well.

So wrenching was the pace of these discoveries
that Belgians had not finished feeling relief over the
rescue when they heard of Melissa's and Julie's
fate: starved to death after spending nine months in the
underground dungeon, their food supply cut off
when Dutroux went to jail for another crime. As if all
that were not hideous enough, the jobless handyman
then confessed to the abduction of yet another
pair of girls, An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks,
19, friends who had disappeared while vacationing
on the Belgian coast last August. Police said they
had reason to believe these teenagers may still be
alive elsewhere in Europe--perhaps swept up by
an international ring of pedophiles and sex slavers.

Concern for these missing youngsters intensified,
and Europeans in general recoiled in horror from the
tale. It exposed a macabre underground of child
molestation that most people like to think could not
exist--at least not in placid, enlightened Europe.
What revolted public opinion most, however, was the
way authorities had so mishandled these cases.
They had long known about the prime suspect and his
prior record, could have seen that he lived far
beyond his ostensible means and even searched his
premises more than once. Yet they inquired only
in a desultory way, and they cold-shouldered the
victimized families' anxious inquiries and offers to help.

A convicted rapist, Dutroux was paroled in 1992,
just three years after his sentencing to 1312 years on
multiple charges of kidnapping, unlawful confinement
and sexual violation of five girls ages 12 to 19.
The grounds for his release: good behavior. As
recriminations engulfed the Justice Ministry last week,
the police got scorched as well. Leaked documents
disclosed that investigators had received tips about
Dutroux's designs on children as long as three years
ago, and that late last year they had visited the
house where Melissa and Julie were being held
captive. The visitors left when Dutroux told them the
children's voices they heard were those of his own kids.

"The system is worthless," 36-year-old Jean-Denis
Lejeune, Julie's father, told TIME last week. "All
we can hope for now," he said, "is that their deaths
will have served a cause." In f

Re: [CTRL] books on Mormonism online

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Hi !

There are several books about Mormonism online. They are below.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

This might be triggering for survivors of abuse. All accusations are alleged.

http://www.utlm.org/navonlinebooks.htm

Online Books

The Changing World of Mormonism by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, as printed by
Moody Press.

Mormon Claims Answered by Marvin Cowan.

Mountain Meadows Massacre by Josiah F. Gibbs. Originally printed in 1910,
this book details one of the worst massacres west of the Mississippi.

Introduction to 3,913 Changes in the Book of Mormon - Introduction covers how
and why changes were made to the Book of Mormon after its first printing. The
book 3,913 Changes in the Book of Mormon is a reproduction of an original
Book of Mormon with the changes marked, and is available through us.

>From : http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/changech22b.htm#Chapter 22

The Changing World of Mormonism by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, as printed by
Moody Press

Here are some excerpts:

  These oaths have been greatly modified since Joseph Smith's time. The
changes were probably made within the last sixty years. Below are comparisons
of the oaths as they were published in Temple Mormonism in 1931 with the way
they are given today. The first oath we will deal with was printed as follows
in 1931:

"We, and each of us, covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of
the secrets of this, the first token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its
accompanying name, sign or penalty. Should we do so; we agree that our
throats be cut from ear to ear and our tongues torn out by their roots"
(Temple Mormonism, p.18).

This oath has been changed to:

"I, - (think of the new name) do covenant and promise that I will
never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, together with its
accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life
to be taken" (Mormonism - Shadow or Reality? p.468).

The second oath was printed as follows by Paden in 1931:

"We and each of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal the
secrets of this, the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its
accompanying name, sign, grip or penalty. Should we do so, we agree to have
our breasts cut open and our hearts and vitals torn from our bodies and given
to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field" (Temple Mormonism, p.20).

This has been softened to:

"I, - (think of the first given name), do covenant and promise that I
will never reveal the second token of the Aaronic Priesthood, together with
its accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my
life to be taken" (Mormonism - Shadow or Reality? p.470).

The third oath, as printed in Temple Mormonism, p.20, read: "We and each
of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of
this, the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, with its accompanying
name, sign or penalty. Should we do so, we agree that our bodies be cut
asunder in the midst and all our bowels gush out."

This oath now states:

"I covenant in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the first
token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or sign of the nail, with its
accompanying name, sign or penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life
to be taken."

Although the oaths are no longer as crude as they used to be, Mormons who
go through the temple still draw the thumb across the throat, stomach, etc.,
as they take these oaths and are told that "The representation of the
penalties indicates different ways in which life may be taken (Mormonism -
Shadow or Reality? p.468).

To the early Mormon people these oaths were a very serious matter. In a
discourse delivered December 13, 1857, Heber C. Kimball, a member of the
First Presidency, declared: "Judas lost that saving principle, and they took
him and killed him they actually kicked him until his bowels came out.

  A person can only begin to imagine how serious these oaths must have been
to the Mormon people when the doctrine of "Blood Atonement" was practiced.
Now that the oaths have been modified and the practice of "Blood Atonement"
abandoned, the Mormon leaders do not have as much control over their people.

One of the oaths which was formerly taken in the temple ritual was the
source of so much trouble that the Mormon leaders finally removed it entirely
from the ceremony. This oath was printed in Temple Mormonism, page 21, as
follows: "You and each of you do solemnly promise and vow that you will pray,
and never cease to pray, and never cease to importune high heaven to avenge
the blood of the prophets on this nation, and that you will teach this to
your children and your children's children unto the third and fourth
generation."

One of the oaths which was formerly taken in the temple ritual was the
source of so much trouble that the Mormon leaders finally removed it entirely
from the ceremony. This oath was printed in T

[CTRL] Vote-For-Me Hilliary Claims Jewish Roots

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 http://www.forward.com/CURRENT/news.html


 Meet Hillary Clinton's Grandmother, Della Rosenberg --
 The Feisty Wife of a Yiddish-Speaking Jewish Immigrant

 Family Secret's a Boost For Her Senate Chances

 By SETH GITELL
 FORWARD STAFF

 WASHINGTON -- As she embarks on her campaign to represent New
 York in the Senate, Hillary Rodham Clinton will be able to tap
 a little-known aspect of her family background -- her maternal
 grandmother was married to a Russian-born Jew named Max
 Rosenberg, and Mrs. Clinton's half-aunt, Adeline Friedman,
 was a Jew who was interred at a Jewish mortuary.

 While Mrs. Clinton has been the subject of at least three
 book-length biographies and numerous newspaper and magazine
 profiles, the colorful story of the first lady's grandmother, a
 feisty woman who carried the name Della Rosenberg, has until now
 been unknown even to many of Mrs. Clinton's closest friends.
 After the Forward asked about the matter this week, Mrs. Clinton
 said through a spokesman that she had "very fond memories" of Max
 Rosenberg. Two members of the Rosenberg family told the Forward
 this week that Mrs. Clinton remained in contact with her
 half-aunt Adeline until Adeline's death last year.

 As Mrs. Clinton prepares to run for Senate in a state where
 Jewish voters are an important swing vote, the fact that the
 first lady had a grandmother named Rosenberg may provide a boost,
 some political analysts say. To be sure, Mrs. Clinton is herself
 a Methodist, and Jewish voters in New York have a record of
 paying more attention at the ballot booth to policy than to
 religion or cultural background. And no one is comparing Mrs.
 Clinton's story to that of Secretary of State Albright, whose
 parents hid their Jewish roots from their daughter. Still, the
 Rosenberg story opens a window into Mrs. Clinton's warm relations
 with the Jewish community and into the concern for family issues
 that have marked her involvement in public policy.

 "Jews will now feel that she's almost one of their own. It will
 make it easier for Jews to connect with her," said a New York
 political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf, a Democrat. "People will
 feel that she's more like them and they'll be more likely to
 listen to what she has to say."

 Mr. Sheinkopf cautioned that "the professional Hillary-haters
 will say, 'why didn't she tell us sooner,' but it won't matter.
 It will help her with the Jewish voters immensely. The overall
 impact will be favorable."

 The director of New York University's Taub Urban Research Center,
 Mitchell Moss, said the news will have a positive effect on Mrs.
 Clinton's campaign. "I think it humanizes her. Hillary's family
 background is going to be both engaging and interesting to the
 voters of New York," said Mr. Moss, speaking from Jerusalem.
 "This new revelation humanizes Hillary and points out that she's
 not only a wife and a mother, but also a granddaughter."

 Asked about Max Rosenberg, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton's Senate
 exploratory committee, Howard Wolfson, said the first lady "has
 very fond memories of him. They spent a fair amount of time
 together. He took her to a place called Kiddieland, which was an
 amusement park in Chicago." As for Max Rosenberg's religious
 background, Mr. Wolfson said, "her memories of him are not in a
 religious context. I did not ask her if she remembered seeing the
 Yiddish Forward around the house."

 Mrs. Clinton's grandmother was born Della Murray in Aurora, Ill.,
 on June 17, 1902, according to a copy of her birth certificate.
 Census records show her parents were of French Canadian descent.
 Della Murray and Edwin Howell were married by a Baptist minister
 in 1918 in Chicago, according to a copy of the Cook County
 marriage license. A year later, the couple's first child was
 born: Dorothy Emma Howell, Mrs. Clinton's mother. The record of
 that birth shows that Edwin Howell was working as a chauffeur,
 while Della Murray was a housewife. A second child, Isabelle, was
 born five years later. But the marriage did not last long. In
 1926, Mr. Howell filed for divorce.

 In her 1996 book, "It Takes a Village," Mrs. Clinton hints at the
 trouble within her own family's background that prompted her
 commitment to children's issues. "When my mother was only eight
 years old and her sister barely three, her father sent them alone
 by train to Los Angeles to live with his parents, who were
 immigrants from England," Mrs. Clinton writes. "When my mother
 first told me how she cared for her sister during the three-day
 journey, I was incredulous. After I became a mother myself, I was
 furious that any child, even in the safer 1920s, would be treated
 like that." In an interview with Talk magazine published earlier
 this week, Mrs. Clinton refers to the "terrible obstacles" her
 own mother, Dorothy, faced, and she says, "My mother...vowed that
 she would break the pattern of abandonment in her family and
 did."

 The story, as detailed in

[CTRL] (Fwd) NCPA Policy Digest 8-5-99

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National Center For Policy Analysis
DAILY POLICY DIGEST
Thursday, August 5, 1999

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IN TODAY'S DIGEST

   o   SUNSPOT CYCLES CORRELATE WITH GLOBAL TEMPERATURE
   INCREASES, say some scientistsGEORGE C. MARSHALL
   INSTITUTE/WALL STREET JOURNAL

   o   CLINTON PROPOSES $95 BILLION IN NEW TAXES AND $1.032
   TRILLION SPENDING INCREASES, says former Federal Reserve
   governor Lawrence B. LindseyAMERICAN ENTERPRISE
   INSTITUTE/WALL STREET JOURNAL

   o   THE NUMBER OF LAWYERS IS FAST APPROACHING ONE MILLION, and
   restrictions on legal actions are increasingNEW YORK
   TIMES

   o   THE AVERAGE U.S. FAMILY SPENDS 14 PERCENT OF INCOME ON
   FOOD, but poverty figures assume the poor spend one-third
   -- which may inflate the number in povertyINVESTOR'S
   BUSINESS DAILY

   o   SAUDI ARABIAN OIL COSTS $1.50 A BARREL TO PRODUCE and
   sells for more than $15 a barrel; but U.S. companies
   accuse the Saudis of dumping itNEW YORK TIMES

   o   PROJECTED SPACE STATION COSTS ARE MORE THAN $100 BILLION,
   up from an estimated $8 billion for a grander project in
   1984.WEEKLY STANDARD

IN TODAY'S NEWS

The SUN'S ROLE IN GLOBAL WARMING

Those who promote the controversial theory that the Earth is
getting warmer due to burning of fossil fuels are overlooking an
important factor, scientists say: the changing nature of the sun.

Computer simulations say the "greenhouse effect" should have
raised the global temperature by about one degree Celsius -- or
1.8 degrees Fahrenheit -- over the past 100 years.  But in fact
temperatures rose 0.5 degrees C over the century, peaking before
1940.  Then it decreased until the 1970s, and has since risen a
modest 0.2 degrees C.  Experts point out that because more than
80 percent of manmade carbon dioxide entered the air since the
1940s, the earlier warming of 0.5 degrees C must be natural.

Sunspots may very well be that natural factor:

   o   The sun is brightest during peak sunspot periods -- which
   change every 11 years or so, making for a 22-year magnetic
   cycle.

   o   Studies show that changes in the cycle correlate closely
   to changes in North American land temperatures over three
   centuries.

   o   If recent NASA data are indicative, changes in the sun's
   magnetism track changes in the sun's brightness.

   o   If this is so, changes in the sunspot cycle would explain
   the average temperature change of 0.5 degrees Celsius over
   the past 100 years.

Changes in the cycle also correspond to temperature variations
over many millennia.  Sunspots were rare from about 1640 to 1710
-- a period which coincides with the coldest century of the
millennium.

While we lack temperature data for other centuries, the role of
sunspots in climate change can be inferred from historical
fluctuations of wheat prices.  In periods of few sunspots, the
climate gets colder.  Indeed, five prolonged periods of few
sunspots coincides with periods of higher wheat prices in
England.

Source: Sallie Baliunas (George C. Marshall Institute, Mt. Wilson
Observatory), "Why So Hot? Don't Blame Man, Blame the Sun," Wall
Street Journal, August 5, 1999.

For NCPA's Global Warming Hotline go to
http://www.ncpa.org/hotlines/global/gwhot.html

QUICK, SPEND THE SURPLUS BEFORE TAXPAYERS GRAB IT

That is essentially the view of the tax-and-spend crowd in
Washington, economists warn.  While Federal Reserve Chairman Alan
Greenspan has come down on the side of delaying a tax cut until
the economy needs it, he has also made it clear that a major
increase in outlays "is the worst of all possible worlds from a
fiscal-policy point of view, and, under all conditions, should be
avoided."

He went on to add in recent testimony that he has "great sympathy
for those who wish to cut taxes now to preempt that process, and
indeed, if it turns out they are right, then I would say that
moving on the tax front makes good sense to me."

But former Federal Reserve governor Lawrence B. Lindsey warns
that spending more is exactly what President Clinton has in mind.

   o   Clinton calls for a 10 year spending increase of $1.032
   trillion -- offset by a further $95 billion increase in
   taxes.

   o   Thus he uses $937 billion of the projected surplus to grow
   government.

   o   By contrast, the congressional budget resolution calls for
   cutting taxes by $778 billion and spending by $59 billion,
   reserving $218 billion for deficit reduction -- more than
   the president's.

   o   In the past four fiscal years, inflation-adjusted domestic
   spending has actually increased $74 billion -- although
   partially offset by a $34 billion cut in real defense
   spend

[CTRL] MINISTERS DOWN UNDER MANDATE BIOTECH FOOD LABLES, ALLOW LOOPHOLE

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MINISTERS DOWN UNDER MANDATE BIOTECH FOOD LABLES, ALLOW LOOPHOLE

By Bob Burton
CANBERRA, Australia, August 4, 1999 (ENS) - Some genetically modified foods
will carry identifying labels but Australian and New Zealand health
ministers have created a loophole that has angered consumer and
environmental groups.
Copyright Environment News Service (ENS) 1999
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  Environment




 Ministers Down Under Mandate Biotech Food
 Labels, Allow Loophole

 By Bob Burton

 CANBERRA, Australia, August 4, 1999 (ENS) - Some genetically
 modified foods will carry identifying labels but Australian and
New
 Zealand health ministers have created a loophole that has
angered
 consumer and environmental groups.

 After a tense seven-hour meeting Wednesday, the ministers
reached
 a compromise agreement that requires only some genetically
modified
 foods to be labelled.

 The Australian New Zealand Food Standards Council ministers
have
 "agreed to require mandatory labelling of foods produced using
gene
 technology and food in containing genetically modified
ingredients."

   Grant Tambling is Senator for the Northern
   Territory (Photo courtesy government of
Australia)

   Chair of the Food Standards Council,
Australian
   Senator Grant Tambling, said that under the
   agreement some foods produced using gene
   technology would not need to be labelled if
they
   fall below an as yet undetermined "threshold
   level" of genetically modified material.

   Australian Consumers Association Policy
Officer,
   Mara Bun, rejects the concept of threshold
 levels. "The idea of threshold levels for modified ingredients
in foods
 to trigger disclosure is unlikely to be accepted by consumers.
 Consumers want to know absolutely, whether the foods they eat
do
 or don't contain even small amounts of modified ingredients or
 ingredients obtained from modified plants," she said.

 "Threshold levels can be eliminated if food companies are
required to
 audit their supply of ingredients for genetic status. It's
planned to
 apply this method to qualify for a 'NON-GM' label, so it should
also be
 used for disclosing the presence of any GM ingredients" Bun
said.

 Soy foods that are
 guaranteed to contain
 no genetically
 modified soy beans by
 Australian Natural
 Foods Holdings Ltd.
 (Photo courtesy ANF)

 The Australian Food and
 Grocery Council argues
 that it should not be
 expected to label
 products "if suppliers
 don't know, if there is no
 identifiable difference between GM and non-GM ingredients or if
there
 is no reliable diagnostic test."

 The health ministers agreed that food manufacturers' labels may

 state that the foods do or do not contain genetically modified
 ingredients or that "foods might contain genetically modified
 ingredients approved by health authorities."

 Over the next month, Australia New Zealand Food Authority will
draft
 the new food standard on labelling. The ministers are scheduled
to
 ratify it at a meeting in October.

 The ministers also supported voluntary measures proposed by the

 food industry including 1-800 phone information services as
well as
 posters and leaflets in stores.

 Bob Phelps convenor of the Australian Gene Ethics Network, a
pure
 foods group, said, "Posters, leaflets and 1-800 numbers
supplied by
 companies are not an alternative to comprehensive labelling and
are
 a recipe for disinformation and propaganda."

  Logo of the Australian Gene Ethics
  Network (Image courtesy AGEN)

  "By deliberately withholding key
  information on controversial new food,

  indust

[CTRL] Political Philosophies[get educated for vote2000]

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Political Philosophies

Libertarian
Libertarians are self-governors in both personal and economic matters. They
believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and
violence. They value individual responsibility, and tolerate economic and
social diversity.

Left-Liberal
Left-Liberals prefer self-government in personal matters and central
decision-making on economics. They want government to serve the
disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Leftists tolerate social diversity,
but work for economic equality.

Moderate
Moderates favor selective government intervention and emphasize practical
solutions to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on new issues.
Many moderates feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.

Conservative
Right-conservatives prefer self-government on economic issues, but want
official standards in personal matters. They want the government to defend
the community from threats to its moral fiber.

Authoritarian
Authoritarians want government to advance society and individuals through
expert central planning. They often doubt whether self-government is
practical. Left-authoritarians are also called socialists, while fascists
are right-authoritarians.





I will NOT vote for any DemocRat or Republican
in the General Election!!!
I will be voting for the candidate of
The Libertarian Party!!
No more lesser of two evils.

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Curious facts and stories




© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

We have recently been hit with a wave of curious stories. For example, there
recently appeared a report about illegal immigration from Mexico. Strangely,
it wasn't about Mexican illegal immigrants. It was about OTMs -- Other Than
Mexicans -- slinking across our southern frontier. Apparently the United
States Border Patrol's Tucson and Yuma sectors, over the past two years,
have apprehended 119 mainland Chinese, 31 Bulgarians, 15 Cubans, 10
Lebanese, 10 Poles, nine Filipinos, nine Indians, seven Iranians, six
Romanians, and six Russians.
What's so curious about these figures? China, Bulgaria, Cuba, Poland,
Romania and Russia -- six of the ten countries mentioned -- are part of the
"former" Communist bloc. Of the OTMs caught trying to penetrate that
particular sector of the U.S. border, 187 out of 222 were either from
Communist countries or "former" Communist countries.

Here's another interesting story: The Russian General Staff is preparing for
a large military exercise called "Combat Commonwealth 99." This giant war
game will involve forces from Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan and
Kyrgystan. The drill will commence with operations carried out by the Air
and Air Defense forces. The exercise will simulate defense against a missile
strike on the "former" Soviet Union (now dubbed the "Commonwealth of
Independent States").

Here is another curious story: Last Saturday Russian news sources told of a
high level Kremlin meeting chaired by Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin. The
meeting was about improved methods for protecting the Russian people in the
event of a thermonuclear war. Sources reported that a new civil defense
doctrine was being prepared. Itar-Tass said, "Participants at the meeting
believe that protection of the population is the most important task of the
state."

Another curious fact reared its head in Khabarovsk, Russia, last Sunday.
According to railway chief Aleksandr Strelnik, the amount of freight hauled
on Russia's Far Eastern Railway has recently jumped by 49 percent. No
explanation was offered for this increase. As you might guess, tourists are
not exactly flocking to Siberia, and the local economy is said to be
stagnant. Of course, the Russian Far East is noted for being one of the
world's largest repositories of mothballed tanks, self-propelled guns,
armored personnel carriers, hydrogen bombs and missiles. A dramatic increase
in Siberian rail traffic could mean that the repository is being tapped.

Here's another item: Last Sunday they were celebrating Airborne Trooper Day
in Moscow. General Aleksandr Lebed, himself an old paratrooper, attended the
festivities and offered an alarming prediction about growing unrest in the
North Caucasus (i.e., Chechnya). Lebed said that "complications in the North
Caucasus might lead to a state of emergency in the whole of Russia."

On Monday, the day after the general's statement, there was a huge gun
battle in the North Caucasus between "bandits" and Russian authorities,
leaving 10 dead and several wounded.

And yet another odd story appears: Adm. Dennis Blair, commander in chief of
U.S. forces in the Pacific, met with members of Congress and congressional
aides last week. According to Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, Adm. Blair
referred to Taiwan as "the turd in the punchbowl." On the subject of
defending Taiwan in the event of a Communist invasion, Adm. Blair was quoted
as saying: "I don't think we should support them at all."

Anyone familiar with the military knows that a ranking admiral wouldn't dare
make statements of this kind unless supported by the president. If any top
commander ever says something political that goes against policy, then he is
sure to be slapped down. And that leads us to what recently happened to Gen.
Wesley Clark, NATO supreme commander.

Well, he's not supreme for long.

It appears that Gen. Clark did something rather foolish last month when he
testified before a Senate committee about the Russians capturing Pristina
airport. When asked why he'd been caught off guard by the Russian march on
Pristina, Clark replied that he hadn't been caught off guard. According to
Clark, a higher authority had purposely allowed Pristina to fall to the
Russians.

Uh oh. This was a naughty thing to have said. Everybody knows that only one
authority stands higher than a four star general. It's not nice to imply
that the president was to blame for the most embarrassing debacle of the
Balkan campaign. Obviously, this could not go unpunished. So it wasn't
surprising when President Clinton retaliated by cutting short General
Clark's term as supreme NATO commander by two months.

Worse yet, a story was leaked to Newsweek suggesting that Clark had risked
World War III by ordering an air assault to grab Pristina before the
Russians could reach it. Clark's subordinate, British Lt. Gen. Michae

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[CTRL] Chinese Military Calls For Special Hacker Force

[Nicky Molloy]

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Chinese Military Calls For Special Hacker Force



  By Staff, Newbsytes
HONG KONG, CHINA,
04 Aug 1999, 4:53 PM CST
 The Chinese military is looking for a few good men - to be trained in the
art of government sponsored hacking over the Internet.

According to a report by asia.internet.com, The Liberation Army Daily
newspaper, a "mouthpiece" of China's Peoples Liberation Army, recently
called for the development of a hacking (more commonly called "cracking")
capability made up of civilian experts and specially trained military
personnel that could engage in online and Internet warfare.

Problems have been steadily escalating recently between the Chinese
government and elements critical of the regime.

NATO's bombing of the China government's Belgrade Embassy in the recent
conflict in the Kosovo region, was followed by a number of incidents where
crackers obtained unauthorized access to several US government sites.

The Liberation Army Daily then claimed US hackers countered with
unauthorized access to a number of civilian sites in China. This, in turn,
apparently led to the military's call for hacker training for select
personnel.

As reported by Newsbytes, the Chinese government's recent clampdown on
supporters of the banned Falun Gong sect in the country also spilled over
onto the Internet, with Web sites originating in the US and the UK, as well
as Canada, reportedly being attacked and brought down because they provided
links to the sect's sites. The crackers were traced to Chinese domains.

Just this week Newsbytes reported that a Webmaster of an attacked site said
that Internet addresses used in the incident were registered to telephone
numbers in Beijing, which in turn were verified as belonging to the Internet
Monitoring Bureau of the Public Security Ministry.

Another Webmaster said that a denial of service attack on his site, which
hosts Falun Gong information, was traced back to the Beijing Application
Institute for Information Technology and the Information Center of Xin An
Beijing.

The Chinese government also extended its propaganda war on the cult to the
Internet recently with the launch of a special Website, "Expose the
fallacies of Falun Gong, safeguard the well being of the people."

The news comes at the same time as the Associated Press is reporting that
China has warned the US Congress today against backing moves by Taiwan
towards independence for the island. AP quotes a Chinese official as saying
Beijing was ready to pay "any price" to defend China's claim to the island,
which has functioned as a separate entity ever since the Communist
government took over the mainland in 1949 following a civil war.

Reported by Newsbytes.com, http://www.newsbytes.com

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Another "Manchurian" Killer In Alabama

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

10 20 30 40 50 or more...80 men died before the end of that
spreethe bloody Red Baron, of Germany...

Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>   
>
> Subject: Another "Manchurian" Killer In Alabama
> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:30:32 +
> From: "NewsHawk Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: NewsHawk Inc.
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
> 8.5.99
> Recipients--
> Another "Manchurian" killer goes gun-crazy in Alabama.
>
> Need we say more??
>
> NewsHawk Inc.
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> WIRE:Aug. 5, 0:40 p.m. ET
> Gumnman kills three in Alabama office
> shootings PELHAM, Ala., (Reuters) - A gunman shot and killed three
> people on Thursday in two office buildings in Pelham, Alabama, police said.
>
> A police spokesman said that a suspect had been detained after the
> incident, the latest in a series of multiple shootings in recent months
> in the United States.
>
> It happened just a week after a disgruntled stock market day trader
> bludgeoned his wife and two children to death and then went on a
> shooting rampage at two Atlanta brokerages, killing nine people.
>
> Local Police Chief Alan Wade said that the suspect in Pelham, a
> 34-year-old white male, opened fire at the office where he worked and at
> the place he formerly worked.
>
> The man was detained when police hunting for him pulled him over in his
> vehicle on a nearby highway. He was held after a brief scuffle, Wade
> said. Pelham is a small city south of Birmingham.
>
> Local television stations reported that the man arrested in the Pelham
> incident had been fired and that one of the people he shot was his
> former boss.
>
> Copyright 1999 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material
> may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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Re: [CTRL] Gunning for guns (fwd)

[Bill]

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Gunning for Guns is enforcement of the police
statefinal, all encompassing enforcement of the police
state.

MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> August 5, 1999 /23 Av, 5759
>
> Thomas Sowell
>
> Gunning for guns
>
> http://www.jewishworldreview.com
>
> -- NOW THAT THE MASS SHOOTINGS in Atlanta have led to predictable
> demands for more federal gun control laws, let us at least make
> an effort to think rationally. Is the way to prevent more
> tragedies like the one in Atlanta to pass laws ensuring that
> virtually all Americans will be as helpless as those who were
> shot and killed by Matt Barton? Does that make any sense?
>
> When people ask emotionally, "How can we stop these things?" the
> most straightforward answer is to ask: How was it in fact
> stopped? It was stopped, like most shooting sprees, by the
> arrival on the scene of other people with guns.
>
> It is the monopoly of guns by people with evil intentions that is
> dangerous. Some of the most dangerous places in America are
> places where strict gun-control laws provide assurance to violent
> criminals that their victims will not be able to defend
> themselves.
>
> What if every third or fourth person in that building in Atlanta
> had a gun available at the time? Under such conditions, it is
> very unlikely that Matt Barton could have shot 22 people before
> he was stopped.
>
> There are communities whose gun laws permit law-abiding citizens
> to have ready access to firearms and where many citizens
> accordingly have registered guns. These communities have less
> violence in general and fewer shooting sprees like this in
> particular. Wouldn't it be better if nobody had guns? Of course
> it would. It would be better if man had never invented the bow
> and arrow, much less modern weapons. But that is not a serious
> option.
>
> The one thing that so-called "gun control" laws do not do is
> control guns. They disarm potential victims. People who do not
> care about the law can always get guns in a country with 200
> million guns and more coming in, both legally and illegally.
>
> We can't even stop millions of human beings from coming into this
> country illegally -- and a handgun is a lot smaller than a
> person. That basic reality is not changed by politicians and
> media loudmouths who appeal to emotions and symbolism by crying
> out for more guns laws. You can always pass feel-good laws and
> ignore their actual consequences. In fact, we have already done
> too much of that on too many other issues.
>
> The biggest hypocrites on gun control are those who live in
> upscale developments with armed security guards -- and who want
> to keep other people from having guns to defend themselves.
> Affluent homeowners pay to have private armed security patrols
> cruising their neighborhoods. Many of them are also for gun
> control. Of course you don't have to have a gun yourself when you
> are paying other people to carry guns for you. But what about
> lower-income people living in high-crime, inner city
> neighborhoods? Should such people be kept unarmed and helpless,
> so that limousine liberals can "make a statement" by adding to
> the thousands of gun laws already on the books?
>
> Could gangs of armed hoodlums and criminals flourish and
> terrorize whole neighborhoods, as they do, if people all around
> them had guns? We don't have to speculate. Studies at the
> University of Chicago show that violence drops immediately in
> communities that pass laws permitting law-abiding citizens to
> carry concealed weapons.
>
> Such communities do not have shoot-outs on the streets or
> vigilante actions -- the big bugaboos of those who love to
> believe that others lack the brains or the decency that they
> reserve for the anointed like themselves. Contrary to those to
> whom politics is an ego trip, both citizens and criminals have
> common sense. That is why there are more shootings when only one
> side has guns.
>
> If the real purpose of gun control laws was to prevent crime,
> then we would expect their most zealous advocates to be zealous
> about other anti-crime measures as well. They are not. On the
> contrary, those who are most vocal against guns are generally the
> most reluctant to put criminals behind bars and keep them there.
>
> How many gun-control advocates have even noticed -- much less
> protested -- the fact that John Hinckley, who attempted to
> assassinate President Reagan and grievously wounded press
> secretary Jim Brady in the process, is now walking the streets
> again on furlough? Instead, they have exploited the shooting of
> Jim Brady to pass laws disarming more citizens who have never
> shot anybody.
>
> There is a very real possibility that the tragedy in Atlanta will
> lead to more laws making more such tragedies more likely.
>
> =
>Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT
>
>   FROM THE DESK OF: 

Re: [CTRL] [conservative] RECALL THE TYRANT!

[Bard]

Andre, Sixty percent voted in favor of Proposition 187.

Bard


bard,
First of all, I think Davis should be recalled. NOt because of 187, but
because of the idiotic gun ban he suports. But there is an arguement in
this post that I categorically reject; namel that the governor's main
crime was that he didn't listen to the people. WEll, I don't care what the
peope say that's irreleveant. By that standard, you might as well have
ligislators and executives who govern by polls, because that's the will of
the people. But we don't live in a democracy, we live in a constitutional
republic. That means that weneed to govern by cerain principples,
regarldwww of what the people think. If the majority wanted gun control,
that doesn't mean we should have it. It is principple, not the will of the
mob, that should be the basis of sound goverment.
andre

Re: [CTRL] Diet of worms solves gut problems

[piper]

 -Caveat Lector-

I do not want my immune system damped down
like in AIDS, MCS, MS, Diabetes,
EPD (Enzyme Potentate De- senseiation)
seems to do when done wrong, ect
I want to know if I am having a reaction to
pesticides, herbicides, or anything else that
I need to stay away from.

Instead of worms (since I read that
ulcers are usually cause by bacteria,
I opt for a higher dose of acidophilus
in my diet - instead of worms!
piper

Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> 'Yum,' she thought digging through her shelf for a cookbook.
>
> Hilary
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_412000/412142.stm
>
> Wednesday, August 4, 1999 Published at 17:52 GMT 18:52 UK
>
> Diet of worms solves gut problems
>
> Parasitic worms could hold the key to good digestive health
>
> Drinking live parasitic worms has been found to be an effective treatement
> for Crohn's Disease and Irritable Bowel Disease (IBD).
>
> Researchers at the University of Iowa think that the virtual elimination of
> such creatures from the human gut over the years has left the body
> vulnerable to the massive immune reactions which typify the conditions.
>
> Although only six sufferers took part in this trial, the results were so
> impressive that larger experiments could now follow.
>
> All six were given a drink containing microscopic worms which can survive,
> although not reproduce in the human gut.
>
> Between two or three weeks later, their symptoms completely disappeared,
> and stayed away for about a month.
>
> A sterile existence
>
> Dr Joel Weinstock, who carried out the tests, said: "We're living in boxes,
> breathing sterile air and drinking sterile water.
>
> "As we've de-wormed, people have developed immune systems which are not
> damped.
>
> "The worms living in the gastrointestinal tract have been with us for three
> million years, and our immune systems have got used to their presence."
>
> Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis and other forms of inflammatory bowel
> disease appear to be cause by an overactive immune system, which causes
> inflammation in the digestive system.
>
> Symptoms include abdominal pain, bowel obstruction and bleeding.
>
> The condition is incurable, and normal treatments include steroids, which
> can reduce the inflammation, although these have been known to produce side
> effects.
>
> Dr Weinstock pointed out that the rise in such diseases over recent years
> has coincided with a reduction in the incidence of parasitic worms in
> humans.
>
> Four tenths had worms
>
> As little as 70 years ago, he said, 40% of US children enjoyed the company
> of worms which could grow up to 20 centimetres long.
>
> Dr Mark Cottrill, a Lancashire GP with a special interest in IBD, said the
> use of worms was certainly novel.
>
> He said: "I'm always open-minded about any innovation, even though
> treatments have become much better."
>
> He said that he occasionally found harmless worms living in peace in his
> patients when he examined them with a colonoscope.
>
> He said: "You do see these white things which don't like the light and
> wriggle away."
>
> Other scientists, such as Dr Balfour Sartor, from the University of North
> Carolina, are experimenting with the use of bacteria to damp down the
> immune system in IBD patients.
>
> He said of Dr Weinstock's work: "It's an appealing way of using something
> that's of fairly low toxicity to treat a set of diseases that for now we
> don't have a cure for."
>
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[CTRL] China Spy Probe Bungled, Panel Finds; U.S. May Never Know if Atomic Secrets Were Lost (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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"compound missteps"; "bungled", "blunders" = code words for cover-up

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-08/06/073r-080699-idx.html

China Spy Probe Bungled, Panel Finds

Senators Say U.S. May Never Know if Atomic Secrets Were Lost

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 6, 1999; Page A01

The FBI and the Energy Department bungled the investigation of a
nuclear scientist suspected of giving China secret information
about the design of the W-88 warhead, America's most advanced
nuclear weapon, a Senate committee said yesterday.

The bipartisan report by the Senate Committee on Governmental
Affairs says the investigators failed to look into other
suspects, fought among themselves over a search warrant to a
computer, and made other "compound missteps." As a result, the
truth of what happened at Los Alamos National Laboratory may
never be known.

The Chinese American scientist at the heart of the investigation,
Wen Ho Lee, has been fired from his job at Los Alamos for an
alleged security breach, but the Justice Department is still
trying to determine whether to charge him with a crime. And the
32-page Senate report notes that it is still unclear whether any
secrets really were stolen.

"We take no position in this document on whether W-88 or other
nuclear weapons information was in fact compromised, or by whose
hand this may have occurred," the committee wrote.

Some members of Congress have charged for months that China stole
classified data from America's national laboratories, and that
the Clinton administration dragged its feet after being alerted
in 1997 to the espionage, which allegedly took place throughout
the 1980s and '90s. The allegations, combined with NATO's
accidental bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia, have
seriously strained U.S.-Chinese relations.

The Senate report contains some disclosures that are damaging to
Wen Ho Lee, and others that appear to bolster his assertion of
innocence.

The report discloses that Lee failed a polygraph test early this
year in which he was asked whether he had passed nuclear secrets
"to any unauthorized person." It also reveals that Lee and his
wife, a secretary at Los Alamos, were already the subjects of an
FBI security investigation when Energy Department investigators
focused on them in late 1995 as the possible source of Chinese
data on the W-88.

According to the committee, the FBI had "in the early 1990s"
begun an inquiry based on information could reasonably be
interpreted to indicate that Lee had provided significant
assistance to" China. Neither the FBI nor the committee chairman,
Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.), would comment yesterday on what
that information was.

The report quotes a Department of Justice memo as saying the
investigation of the alleged theft of information on the W-88 was
"flawed from the start" because the FBI and the Energy Department
had "multiple suspects" but quickly focused on Wen Ho Lee and his
wife, Sylvia Lee, ignoring the others until much later.

At least some of the other suspects worked at Los Alamos, had
access to secret information, were Chinese American, had traveled
to China, and had made contact with visiting Chinese delegations,
all of the elements that cast suspicion on the Lees, the report
says.

However, the report notes one bit of information that might also
have pointed investigators toward the couple: the FBI obtained a
1987 note, on the letterhead of a Chinese nuclear weapons
institute, indicating that Sylvia Lee had requested that three
Los Alamos documents be sent to the institute's deputy director
"if they are unclassified."

A large section of the committee report focuses on two years of
infighting between the FBI and the Justice Department over a
warrant to search Lee's computer. The FBI repeatedly requested a
warrant, but the Justice Department said it did not have
sufficient information to justify one.

According to the committee, Lee had signed a waiver allowing his
computer to be searched, but the FBI did not know about the
waiver, because an Energy Department counterintelligence officer
had given the bureau misleading information. At the same time,
the report says, the FBI field agent failed to pass information
about the computer search to his superiors and allowed months to
pass before following up on inquiries.

When investigators finally combed through Lee's office computer
last March, they found that he had transferred top-secret files
from Los Alamos's classified computer system to the unclassified
computer on his desk. It is still unknown, however, whether
anyone outside the lab got access to the files.

One possible outcome of the Senate report, according to Thompson
and the committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman
(Conn.), is that Congress may revise the law on such searches.
Lieberman said he believes Congress should consider lowering the
legal barriers for searches and surveillance in cases involving
secrets of "huge

[CTRL] Eclipse August 11th May Fill The Sky.

[Nicola Molloy]

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Audio Eclipse August 11th May Fill The Sky...08/05/99

(NASA) During a total solar eclipse, day becomes night for a few
precious minutes. The temperature drops,
birds stop
singing, and bees return to their hives for a premature rest. An eerie
quiet envelopes the landscape inside
the path of totality.

However, from the unique perspective of a ham radio operator, night is
anything but quiet - and neither is a
solar eclipse.
Many shortwave radio stations that are undetectable in daytime are easy
to pick up at night. The reason has
to do with the
Sun's effect on Earth's atmosphere. During the day, solar UV radiation
ionizes atoms and molecules in the
upper atmosphere,
creating a zone called the "ionosphere." The uppermost part of the
ionosphere, called the F layer, is so
thoroughly ionized that
some free electrons exist there - even at night - when the UV source
(the Sun) is not present. The F layer is
like a mirror for radio waves with frequencies below about 20 MHz.
Shortwave transmissions from earth hit
the F layer and bounce back down. In fact, many such bounces can occur,
and this is the reason why
over-the-horizon transmissions are possible at short wave frequencies.

As the Moon's shadow moves across the earth the temperature in the upper
atmosphere will drop, changing
the wind pattern
as air contracts in on the eclipse region. In the absence of UV
radiation from the Sun, the ionosphere rapidly
begins to decay.
The shadow of the moon races through the atmosphere at supersonic
speeds, causing wind and waves of
electron-ion
recombination to spread through the atmosphere from the eclipse region.
The effects could be global.

Folks, I think there will be a whole lot more to come. This article is
just touching the surface.  MB

Mitch Battros
Producer - Earth Changes TV
http://www.earthchangesTV.com

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[CTRL] [Fwd: IUFO: British 'supergerm' is created for defense / Racist BiologicalWarfare Five Years Away / Betting that no AID's, etc. type mutationsoccur to damage ]

[Nicola Molloy]

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Zombie Cow wrote:
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> >From The Washington Times,
> http://www.washtimes.com/internatl/internatl1.html
> -
> August 2,
> British 'supergerm' is created for defense
>
> By Joe Murphy
> LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH
>
> LONDON
>
> Britain's Ministry of Defense has disclosed that it is creating lethal
> genetically modified (GM) organisms in a secret program to prepare defenses
> against a new era of germ warfare.
>
>  Tests of the potential of "GM supergerms" are being conducted at
> Porton Down, the headquarters of the government's chemical and
> biological defense establishment.
>
>  The research uses similar genetic engineering techniques to those
> that create GM foods sold in supermarkets. It was launched to study
> the implications should such technology be developed for weapons of
> mass destruction by an enemy power.
>
>  The government has kept the experimental research secret, but the
> London Sunday Telegraph has learned it has been going on for at least
> five years.
>
>  The theoretical threat posed by GM germs has alarmed the Ministry
> of Defense. Genetic techniques can make biological weapons more
> dangerous to humans and less easy to detect or counter.
>
>  It is already feasible to use genetic engineering to introduce a
> lethal toxin into a pathogen -- an organism that attacks humans -- to
> increase its killing potential. Organisms can also be modified to
> resist antidotes.
>
>  In the future, it may be possible to wipe out an army with mutant
> germs that would then be made benign by a genetic flaw, enabling an
> enemy force to invade in safety.
>
>  An enemy may be more ready to deploy such "controllable" GM
> weapons than existing organisms such as anthrax. Ultimately, it may be
> possible to develop an "ethnic destruction" germ, that is, an organism
> that would attack the genes of a particular race.
>
>  In January, a study by the British Medical Association warned
> that a plague or toxin designed to kill specific racial groups could
> be only five to 10 years away.
>
>  Britain has signed treaties prohibiting the creation of
> biological weapons for military purposes. The sole reason for the
> research at Porton Down is to develop protection measures against any
> threat posed to the population or to servicemen.
>
>  A Ministry of Defense spokesman said: "To perform this task our
> scientists have to be at the cutting edge of biological scientific
> knowledge, including the techniques of genetics."
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[CTRL] [Fwd: [ThePentagonGuru] Y2K anyone?]

[Bill]

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David Gould wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the North info to this progammer, and received
> this reply:
>
> I agree with the statements below. I own a software development company
> in the heart of the Detroit automotive community, and among other
> things, we developed a software product for Y2K. We have been watching
> industry since '96 and believe many of them won't be ready come the
> Millenium.
>
> Here is an example for you:
>
> A small car like the Neon from Chrysler, has approximately 25,000
> individual part numbers ranging from bolts to tires. This works out to
> about 2000 suppliers.  What are the odds all 2000 suppliers will be
> prepared? The automotive industry is entirely automated, based on
> just-in-time manufacturing principles that require a three day inventory
>
> of parts. The logistics required to continually supply an assembly plant
>
> manufacturing 600 cars (average) a day, every three days is staggering.
> The big three will not be producing cars over the Millenium!
>
> The statistic you quoted "23. General Motors has 2 billion lines of code
>
> and 100,000 suppliers," was released to the public in early 1997. Gm
> hired Deloitte Touche to audit their systems and report back their
> executive with the results. Rumors had it that when Deloitte presented
> the numbers quoted above, some of their executives were on the verge of
> fainting. GM subsequently followed up later in the year with a statement
>
> that read that their remediation efforts were on schedule and that they
> would be testing the remediated code in 1999.  I couldn't count to 2
> billion in this time frame, let alone scan through that many lines of
> code scattered across factories all over the world.
>
> > 13. No microcomputer can safely be assumed to be compliant. All of
> them
> must
> > be tested. So must their software, especially spreadsheets. This has
> not
> > been done, and the sale of y2k testing software so far has been
> minimal.
>
> Approximately 170,000 organizations worldwide use a midrange server
> platform from IBM, called the AS/400, to run their mission critical
> business systems. To date, there have been only 2000 sales worldwide of
> software that could be used to remediate the source code stored on those
>
> machines. I know for a fact that this figure has been exaggerated by
> competitive software vendors.  We are not sure how or if these
> organizations fixed their systems, if at all.
>
> This problem is worse than the public imagines because they extent of
> automation is invisible. I have many engineering friends who are very
> knowledgeable about computers and automation, but have never worked in
> information systems to understand the extent of the issues at hand. They
>
> have written programs to run simulations, control a process, etc... but
> have never seen how banks, and large companies routinely move and store
> enormous amounts of information.  Unfortunately, most engineers believe
> Y2K is not a problem, and this lack of support hurt Y2K awareness from
> the start.
>
> I could go on about Y2K.
>
> If you are interested, I post current Y2K article links daily from news
> organizations around the world at www.pursuitcorp.com/articles.html.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Psinas
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Category:
> >  Introduction
> > Date:
> >  1999-07-30 20:09:10
> > Subject:
> >  The Y2K State of the Union as of July 30, 1999
> > Comment:
> >  It is time to present my summary of what is incontrovertibly true,
> with
> > only five months to go. I shall low-ball my remarks, making them as
> close
> to
> > unchallengeable as I can. These should be the starting points in any
> > discussion of the impact of y2k in 2000, whether national or personal.
>
> >
> > I hereby grant the right of anyone to reprint all or a part of this
> list,
> so
> > long as a link to this document is provided.
> >
> > 1. The number of companies in the world that have reported 100%
> compliance
> > of all mission-critical systems, and 100% compliance of its vendors
> and
> > suppliers, is zero. We do not have to raise the two issues of final,
> > integrated testing and third-party verification until one such company
>
> > appears.
> >
> > 2. Noncompliant data will corrupt compliant data when imported into
> > compliant systems.
> >
> > 3. To screen out bad data, an organization must cut off or filter
> > computerized communications with noncompliant computers. It must know
> which
> > outside computers are noncompliant. It must presume that all of them
> are
> > noncompliant until proven otherwise.
> >
> > 4. The larger the number of data exchanges, the greater the likelihood
> of
> a
> > major failure (the Beach/Oleson pain index). The Federal Reserve
> System
> has
> > 316,862 of these links to the outside.
> >
> > 5. When the cut-off of outside contacts takes place, no industry will
> remain
> > compliant with all of its present producers. Bankruptcies will
> escalate.
> 

Re: [CTRL] Diet of worms solves gut problems

[Bill]

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Hail the Maker Shai Hulud...

"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
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>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> 'Yum,' she thought digging through her shelf for a cookbook.
>
> Hilary
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_412000/412142.stm
>
> Wednesday, August 4, 1999 Published at 17:52 GMT 18:52 UK
>
> Diet of worms solves gut problems
>
> Parasitic worms could hold the key to good digestive health
>
> Drinking live parasitic worms has been found to be an effective treatement
> for Crohn's Disease and Irritable Bowel Disease (IBD).
>
> Researchers at the University of Iowa think that the virtual elimination of
> such creatures from the human gut over the years has left the body
> vulnerable to the massive immune reactions which typify the conditions.
>
> Although only six sufferers took part in this trial, the results were so
> impressive that larger experiments could now follow.
>
> All six were given a drink containing microscopic worms which can survive,
> although not reproduce in the human gut.
>
> Between two or three weeks later, their symptoms completely disappeared,
> and stayed away for about a month.
>
> A sterile existence
>
> Dr Joel Weinstock, who carried out the tests, said: "We're living in boxes,
> breathing sterile air and drinking sterile water.
>
> "As we've de-wormed, people have developed immune systems which are not
> damped.
>
> "The worms living in the gastrointestinal tract have been with us for three
> million years, and our immune systems have got used to their presence."
>
> Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis and other forms of inflammatory bowel
> disease appear to be cause by an overactive immune system, which causes
> inflammation in the digestive system.
>
> Symptoms include abdominal pain, bowel obstruction and bleeding.
>
> The condition is incurable, and normal treatments include steroids, which
> can reduce the inflammation, although these have been known to produce side
> effects.
>
> Dr Weinstock pointed out that the rise in such diseases over recent years
> has coincided with a reduction in the incidence of parasitic worms in
> humans.
>
> Four tenths had worms
>
> As little as 70 years ago, he said, 40% of US children enjoyed the company
> of worms which could grow up to 20 centimetres long.
>
> Dr Mark Cottrill, a Lancashire GP with a special interest in IBD, said the
> use of worms was certainly novel.
>
> He said: "I'm always open-minded about any innovation, even though
> treatments have become much better."
>
> He said that he occasionally found harmless worms living in peace in his
> patients when he examined them with a colonoscope.
>
> He said: "You do see these white things which don't like the light and
> wriggle away."
>
> Other scientists, such as Dr Balfour Sartor, from the University of North
> Carolina, are experimenting with the use of bacteria to damp down the
> immune system in IBD patients.
>
> He said of Dr Weinstock's work: "It's an appealing way of using something
> that's of fairly low toxicity to treat a set of diseases that for now we
> don't have a cure for."
>
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[CTRL] Ancient Theory of Threes

[Andrew Hennessey]

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The reason I'm putting this out, apart from the need to get it off my
chest, and the whole thesis http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~pegasus/   took
me a good ten years - is that I made the obvious but sickening discovery
that there is nothing new under the sun.
I uncovered a Secret Theosophical Degree which was supposed to have been
destroyed - and find that the following threeness stuff is EXACTLY the same
principle as the Occult degree, only mine doesn't use Hindu jargon, but
modern philosophical jargon.
This stuff is the real philosophy behind the fabled 'I CHING' and its
symbolism and shows, I think, that there always was one school for US, and
another, far better education for THEM, and 'THEY' have been sitting on
this stuff for a Very Long time.
It eventually leads to Free Energy and a non-Einsteinian particle physics
that look very much like Nicola Teslas 'Environmental Energy' Thesis 
It may well be stuff that THEY don't want out 
It makes use of Philosophy of Science jargon mainly because I wanted the
Scientists to 'understand'  but then, maybe they already knew.

Imagine my surprise when I read the First Degree of the Esoteric School of
Theosophy - which had been lying in a black box in a cupboard since 1920 ..

Andrew Hennessey

1. TRIPARTITE  ESSENTIALISM  ABSTRACT

1.  The Cosmos is in a state of flux
2.  A transfer of energy between two points or systems via a common
intervening medium is a process called Osmosis. [a Universal state of affairs]
3.  The most basic of an infinite number of transfers of energy in the
Cosmos of 3 dimensions of space and one of time is between two systems.
4.  This basic transfer can be modeled in several ways.
a.  Osmosis. ie. The diffusion of a high concentration to an area of lower
concentration through a semi-permeable membrane.
b.  As a metaphysically continuous extension of one system into another,
where the second system 'Emerges' out of the potential created by the
activity of the first. eg. Morphogenetic Attractor, Evolutionary Vacancy
c.  The relationship between the two systems can be empirically modeled by
an  inverse square power law ie. The more one system increases in
magnitude, the more the effect of the other system diminishes in turn.
d.  by a binary and tripartite arithmetic, where system A, system B and the
common medium system C  have a holistic relativity which can be represented
as efficacious by 1's or 0's denoting on/off, extant/disabled
  At any time 1, there can be eight essential states of that Tripartite
Relativity.
  These 'essences' or 'atomic state descriptions' at time 2  can be any
of the  other eight. The number of possibilities for changes of state is
modeled by a closed set of 64.
  When the 64 transitions of state are tabulated by placing
non-efficacious  relativity or chaos or non-structure in sequence with
time, we end up with a metaphysical model of the activity of elements in
the periodic table of chemistry, where top left, the reactive elements,
bottom right the most structured, and in the middle, transitional states
which are complex.
  Mathematical modeling of spontaneous emergence for artificial life
  experiments  [Langton 1992] with the same arithmetic criteria as these
  essences produce the same Periodic Table of states.
  From this metaphysics can be derived an Octal Arithmetic with an
unusual concept of zero, for zero in this system has substance, ie. Three
substances which are not relating at a given moment efficaciously - but
which also are
'something' in relation to a given context - ie. There is no absolute zero.
e.  Semantic model.
System1 is denoted 'Macro', it is the umbrella of basic constituents and
energy source from which emerges an energy transfer. Eg. the Sun
this energy is then processed by the intervening system, denoted 'Meso'
which has Structure and Mechanics eg. grass, that acts on system2 eg. cow,
the 'Micro', which is the Evolutionary Asset or product of this chain of
relativity. The cow is considered an evolutionary asset in some 'Context',
eg. human/sociological. This chain of relativity has given a general
evolutionary opportunity for a herbivore.
f.  Dr Plichta's model of Tripartite Relativity isbn 1-86204-014-1, pub
element 1997 demonstrates that 3'ness is an archetypal and a priori state
with the mathematics of prime numbers, and demonstrates that
Structure evolves out of mathematical chaos.

5.  Order spontaneously emerges out of Chaos - a Natural Law
6.  The Cosmos and its energies are in a state of Chaos, and emerge systems
that are ordered, but all energy and all matter and all time have the
characteristics of Chaos - they are Non-Linear, both in the Macrocosm  and
the Microcosm.
7.  The properties of matter modeled here, are Telic - end based and
suggests that Emergence doesn't stop at causing system 2, but that
successive systems emerge as part of an ongoing process.
8.  Entropy and demergence are part of this dualistic pro

[CTRL] Gunning for guns (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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August 5, 1999 /23 Av, 5759

Thomas Sowell

Gunning for guns

http://www.jewishworldreview.com

-- NOW THAT THE MASS SHOOTINGS in Atlanta have led to predictable
demands for more federal gun control laws, let us at least make
an effort to think rationally. Is the way to prevent more
tragedies like the one in Atlanta to pass laws ensuring that
virtually all Americans will be as helpless as those who were
shot and killed by Matt Barton? Does that make any sense?

When people ask emotionally, "How can we stop these things?" the
most straightforward answer is to ask: How was it in fact
stopped? It was stopped, like most shooting sprees, by the
arrival on the scene of other people with guns.

It is the monopoly of guns by people with evil intentions that is
dangerous. Some of the most dangerous places in America are
places where strict gun-control laws provide assurance to violent
criminals that their victims will not be able to defend
themselves.

What if every third or fourth person in that building in Atlanta
had a gun available at the time? Under such conditions, it is
very unlikely that Matt Barton could have shot 22 people before
he was stopped.

There are communities whose gun laws permit law-abiding citizens
to have ready access to firearms and where many citizens
accordingly have registered guns. These communities have less
violence in general and fewer shooting sprees like this in
particular. Wouldn't it be better if nobody had guns? Of course
it would. It would be better if man had never invented the bow
and arrow, much less modern weapons. But that is not a serious
option.

The one thing that so-called "gun control" laws do not do is
control guns. They disarm potential victims. People who do not
care about the law can always get guns in a country with 200
million guns and more coming in, both legally and illegally.

We can't even stop millions of human beings from coming into this
country illegally -- and a handgun is a lot smaller than a
person. That basic reality is not changed by politicians and
media loudmouths who appeal to emotions and symbolism by crying
out for more guns laws. You can always pass feel-good laws and
ignore their actual consequences. In fact, we have already done
too much of that on too many other issues.

The biggest hypocrites on gun control are those who live in
upscale developments with armed security guards -- and who want
to keep other people from having guns to defend themselves.
Affluent homeowners pay to have private armed security patrols
cruising their neighborhoods. Many of them are also for gun
control. Of course you don't have to have a gun yourself when you
are paying other people to carry guns for you. But what about
lower-income people living in high-crime, inner city
neighborhoods? Should such people be kept unarmed and helpless,
so that limousine liberals can "make a statement" by adding to
the thousands of gun laws already on the books?

Could gangs of armed hoodlums and criminals flourish and
terrorize whole neighborhoods, as they do, if people all around
them had guns? We don't have to speculate. Studies at the
University of Chicago show that violence drops immediately in
communities that pass laws permitting law-abiding citizens to
carry concealed weapons.

Such communities do not have shoot-outs on the streets or
vigilante actions -- the big bugaboos of those who love to
believe that others lack the brains or the decency that they
reserve for the anointed like themselves. Contrary to those to
whom politics is an ego trip, both citizens and criminals have
common sense. That is why there are more shootings when only one
side has guns.

If the real purpose of gun control laws was to prevent crime,
then we would expect their most zealous advocates to be zealous
about other anti-crime measures as well. They are not. On the
contrary, those who are most vocal against guns are generally the
most reluctant to put criminals behind bars and keep them there.

How many gun-control advocates have even noticed -- much less
protested -- the fact that John Hinckley, who attempted to
assassinate President Reagan and grievously wounded press
secretary Jim Brady in the process, is now walking the streets
again on furlough? Instead, they have exploited the shooting of
Jim Brady to pass laws disarming more citizens who have never
shot anybody.

There is a very real possibility that the tragedy in Atlanta will
lead to more laws making more such tragedies more likely.



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DECLA

[CTRL] I sing the body recontoured (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

 -Caveat Lector-

-- Forwarded message -
  Citation: Mother Jones March 1999, v.24, 2, 31(1)
Author:  Fraser, Laura
 Title: "The Hard Body Sell".(cosmetic surgery) by Laura Fraser

COPYRIGHT 1999 Foundation for National Progress
  "In a Web site photograph for the Beverly Hills, California, Barron Centers
Body Recontouring and Male Enhancement Clinic, a smooth-skinned, muscular man
embraces a lovely woman reclining in the grass. The site is advertising
liposuction and penile enlargement surgery. "The positive results are the same
for virtually every person: greater self-esteem, a new level of
self-confidence, the ability to feel your best," promises the copy. "This
improved self-image is evident not only in your sexual life, but in most other
arenas." Below that, a large banner announces: "New Lower Fees."
  Talk about a hard sell.
  Welcome to the macho world of cosmetic surgery. Once the hush-hush domain of
aging society women, the fast-growing market for cosmetic procedures
increasingly includes male baby boomers. Over the past five years, the number
of men having liposuction has tripled, according to the American Society of
Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons, and the number having face-lifts has
doubled. In 1997, men spent almost $130 million on liposuction, face-lifts,
nose reshaping, and eyelid surgery, up from $88 million in 1992. (Women, by
comparison, spent $882 million in '97, up from $479 million in '92.)
  "It's definitely a growing trend," says San Francisco-based plastic surgeon
Corey Maas. "After all these years of guys walking around with big
beer-bellies and wrinkly faces while women are looking better and better,
finally, men are catching on."
  Men are responding to a consumer culture that is less and less forgiving
toward those who are not young, trim, and attractive. Bombarded with
advertising images of perfect men, they're having manicures, dyeing their
hair, concealing blemishes, and getting facials. Cosmetic companies have
concocted macho-sounding campaigns for their men's product lines, and sales of
men's grooming supplies are increasing 11 percent per year, totaling more than
$3 billion in 1996.
  Cosmetic surgery, with ads promising quick and easy high-tech results, is
being marketed to men the way sports cars and stereo equipment are sold-as
accessories to make them more attractive, powerful, and masculine. "It's
extremely important for the working man to appear energetic and youthful,"
says a Web site ad for the Palm Beach Plastic Surgery Center. "You may feel
young and ready to go, but your sagging lids, loose neck, or thinning hair may
portray a less vibrant impression than you would like." As one male University
of California at Berkeley professor who had facial plastic surgery puts it,
"If it's available, and it makes me look better, and I have the money, why
not? It's not any stupider than going out and buying a Jaguar."
  Also, women are no longer settling for chubby, balding executives. They
don't have to. "It used to be that men responded to physical beauty and women
responded to power and status," says David Sarwer, a psychologist at the
University of Pennsylvania's Center for Human Appearance. "Now women have
their own power and status, and they're looking for more attractive men.
  "Increasingly, men are coming in for antiaging treatments," continues
Sarwer. "The baby boomers, who have been the generation on the forefront of so
many social changes, are now marching to the cosmetic surgeon's office."
  In some ways, this new trend among men finally validates what women have
always known: Looking good is hard work. But it's also ironic. Feminists who
had hoped that gaining equality in the workplace would mean they could stop
worrying so much about appearance are finding that men are worrying more about
their own-and presumably haven't learned any lessons from women's body-image
issues. Of the millions of people diagnosed with eating disorders such as
anorexia nervosa or bulimia each year, almost 10 percent are men, and silicone
calf and pectoral implants-to beef up the less-than-muscular leg or chest-are
also gaining popularity among men. Cosmetic surgeons are quick to point out
that they don't use gel, so the leakage problems women have had with breast
implants do not occur.
  Still, men are far from being as anxious or depressed as women about their
looks. "There's definitely more emphasis on men's looks, bodies, and weight
than in any time in the past, but I don't think men will ever feel the intense
pressure to be trim and attractive that women face every day," says Debbie
Then, a California-based social psychologist who studies appearance. But with
cosmetic surgery ads that emphasize self-esteem, it can't be long before men
start taking their physical imperfections to heart.
  Indeed, men are growing more insecure. A 1997 nationwide Psychology Today
survey showed 

[CTRL] Fwd: Another "Manchurian" Killer In Alabama

[Kris Millegan]

8.5.99
Recipients--
Another "Manchurian" killer goes gun-crazy in Alabama.

Need we say more??


NewsHawk Inc.


= = = = = = = = = = = = =
WIRE:Aug. 5, 0:40 p.m. ET
Gumnman kills three in Alabama office
shootings PELHAM, Ala., (Reuters) - A gunman shot and killed three
people on Thursday in two office buildings in Pelham, Alabama, police said.

A police spokesman said that a suspect had been detained after the
incident, the latest in a series of multiple shootings in recent months
in the United States.

It happened just a week after a disgruntled stock market day trader
bludgeoned his wife and two children to death and then went on a
shooting rampage at two Atlanta brokerages, killing nine people.

Local Police Chief Alan Wade said that the suspect in Pelham, a
34-year-old white male, opened fire at the office where he worked and at
the place he formerly worked.

The man was detained when police hunting for him pulled him over in his
vehicle on a nearby highway. He was held after a brief scuffle, Wade
said. Pelham is a small city south of Birmingham.

Local television stations reported that the man arrested in the Pelham
incident had been fired and that one of the people he shot was his
former boss.

Copyright 1999 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[CTRL] Administration spin (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

 -Caveat Lector-

  Administration spin
  to go global


  By Ben Barber

  THE WASHINGTON TIMES

  former senior Clinton administration official
  charged on July 28 that a new multiagency plan
  to closely control the dissemination of public
  information abroad is really aimed at "spinning the
  American public."

   The plan, disclosed on July 28 by The Washington
  Times, emerged out of concern that the U.S. public
  has refused to back President Clinton's foreign policy,
  said the former official, who spoke on the condition
  he not be identified.

   Administration officials "say news coverage is
  distorted at home and they need to fight it at all costs
  by using resources that are aimed at spinning the
  news," said the former official, who had close
  knowledge of the plan's development.

   Mr. Clinton in April issued Presidential Decision
  Directive 68, ordering the creation of the International
  Public Information (IPI) system, designed to make
  sure that all government agencies disseminating
  information abroad share a single message.

   A draft charter obtained by The Washington
  Times says the purpose of IPI is "to prevent and
  mitigate crises and to influence foreign audiences in
  ways favorable to the achievement of U.S. foreign
  policy objectives."

   Officials of U.S. defense, intelligence, diplomatic
  and other agencies met for the first time on July 28 at
  the State Department to go over the draft charter,
  said a source who spoke on the condition of
  anonymity.

   Only "minor changes" were made to the charter at
  that meeting, the source said, but it was possible that
  "major" changes would be made in the near future.

   Future meetings of an IPI "core group" developing
  the new information system are to be chaired by
  Morton Halperin, head of policy planning at the State
  Department.

   The draft charter says information aimed at U.S.
  audiences should "be coordinated, integrated,
  deconflicted and synchronized with the [IPI] to
  achieve a synergistic effect."

   The former senior official complained that the
  charter "did not distinguish what would be done
  overseas and what would be done at home. . . . It
  talks about a news war."

   In a telephone interview after the meeting, an
  administration official rejected accusations that IPI
  could be used in a partisan manner or be used to
  influence American public opinion.

   "This is absolutely not the case," said the official,
  who also declined to be identified. "We are very
  cognizant of the history of the '80s. There are
  congressional controls now."

   The official was referring to the 1980s Iran-Contra
  affair, in which some Reagan administration officials
  covertly sold arms to Iran to raise money to fund the
  Contra war in Nicaragua.

   After October, IPI will be run by the newly
  created undersecretary of state for public diplomacy,
  who will take over most of the duties of the U.S.
  Information Agency (USIA), which is being
  disbanded. Former White House aide Evelyn
  Lieberman has been nominated for that post.

   However, the IPI system was said to be the
  brainchild of White House intelligence chief Dick
  Clarke. His aide, former White House fellow Jamie
  Metzl, largely wrote the plan and is now serving as
  IPI senior coordinator, according to the former senior
  administration official.

   Media and political analysts expressed concern
  about the plan.

   "This . . . indicates a measure of desperation in
  President Clinton's foreign policy," said Seth
  Ackerman of Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a
  liberal media-watch-dog group. "When it is not received
  well abroad, he resorts to propaganda."

   On the other end of the political spectrum, Ariel
  Cohen of the conservative Heritage Foundation said
  he worried that the IPI system could be used by the
  party in power to push its own agenda, rather than the
  national interest.

   "It would be a mistake to turn the U.S. public
  information system into a tool of a partisan agenda,"
  said Mr. Cohen.

   "It cannot be driven by any political-correctness
  agenda that will not be representative of what the
  American people think or that will reflect only a
  social-change agenda of extremist activist groups," he
  said.

   The IPI plan calls for establishing a system of
  control over all government information going abroad,
  with a stated goal of countering anti-American
  propaganda and aiding U.S. overseas military
  missions.

[CTRL] RECALL THE TYRANT!

[Bard]

 -Caveat Lector-

RECALL THE TYRANT!

by H. Millard (c) 1999

There is always a risk of overstating a threat to our liberties, and such
overstating can have the effect of turning off good decent people who might
otherwise support a move to correct the situation. It is no different with
the talk to recall Governor Davis. Is Davis really a tyrant and has he
really screwed with our liberties and that which underpins our society?

Well, to understand what Davis has done with his drive-by shooting of Prop.
187 it is helpful to understand a little about the ordering of societies. In
simplest terms all societies have a sovereign of some sort who is, by
necessity, an authority above individual people in the society. To not have
a sovereign would mean that each individual person would be his own
sovereign and could "legally" do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted with
no regard for the rights of others. Each person would be able to claim
absolute authority to take whatever he wanted and to kill anyone who stood
in his way and each person would be within his rights to do so because he
was the sovereign. This isn't a good plan for a society that contains more
than one person.

So, it was necessary to have a sovereign. Now, a sovereign must be "above"
individual people in order to have authority over individual people
otherwise he is not a sovereign. This sovereign sets certain rules so that
society works for the people in society. In countries with monarchs, the
monarch is usually the sovereign and, in theory, sets the rules. In the
past, such sovereigns, often Kings or Queens, ruled by divine right and
their rules were absolute. Their power was claimed to flow from God to them.
Taking the will of the people into account was a foreign concept in such a
system. As years went by, the people in many of these monarch ruled
societies revolted and overthrew the sovereign and established some other
version of a sovereign in their place.

One form of society that emerged that brought in a new sovereign was the
democracy. In a democracy, the sovereign is the people themselves and all
power flows from the people. It is the people who delegate certain of their
authority to their elected officials for an efficient ordering of society.
However, the people may never delegate their responsibility to elected
officials because ultimately what happens in society affects the people
themselves in some manner. For example, the people have delegated authority
to police departments to protect the people. Whether the police fulfill the
duty they they have been authorized to perform or not, the people are still
responsible for their own safety and if the police do not fulfill their duty
it is the people who will be robbed, murdered and attacked. In other words,
even in a society with well established traditions and institutions such as
legislatures, police departments, and, yes, Governors, the people themselves
still bear the responsibility for protecting themselves and for ensuring
that the things that they want done for their common good are taken care of.

To help them with governing themselves, people write Constitutions and laws
which set forth their rules so that tyrants can't come along and arbitrarily
change things based on what the tyrants want. However, because the people
are busy with other things and don't have the time to democratically decide
on every issue that needs to be decided, some societies instituted
representative forms of government in which the people would elect officials
who were supposed to represent the people and ensure that the will of the
people was enforced. In theory, it was pretty simple. Instead of each one of
us taking time away from our businesses and other interests we would "hire"
(via elections) someone to represent our interests. For example, instead of
say 1,000 people in a town having to decide on each issue and how every
penny would be spent, we had "hired" someone else to do this for us.

However, it was understood that such representatives of the people might go
astray and not do what the people wanted. To help prevent this, the people
of certain states in the United States reserved the right to themselves to
make people made law via the initiative process. Then if their elected
representatives didn't make the laws that the people felt they needed, the
people could trump the legislative bodies and make the laws themselves.

That's what Prop. 187 was all about. It was the people assembled who saw
that the legislators were not making the correct laws to protect the people
from illegal aliens. To correct this situation for the common good of the
citizens of the state, millions of citizens worked very hard to pass Prop.
187. This initiative was the expression of their will. It was the will of
the sovereign--THE PEOPLE. It was law, because the sovereign--the
people--said it was law. Period.

Then along came one unelected federal judge who cast her lone "vote" against
the votes of more than 5 milli

Re: [CTRL] Drought

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Weather experimentatiion began heavily in the forties here
in America...plenty of information availablegenocide has
been going on foreverB

Edward Britton wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Gonna have to agree with June on this one, even though it may pain me :-)
> Regional weather patterns can and do go on for years. An example of this is
> the lengthy drought which precipitated the mass starvation in Ethiopia
> several yeqars ago.
>
> The good news is, meteorologists who predict these long term trends are
> often wrong.
>
> Edward   ><+>
> >On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Sno0wl wrote:
> >>I heard some commentator on the evenings news (NBC) talking about the
> drought and
> >>saying that these conditions would go on "for decades." (Sorry, didn't
> catch the name
> >>or rank or serial number).
> >>
> >>If the government is not tampering with the weather, how can they
> >>possibly know that?
> >
> >It's called 'meteorology', and studying historical weather patterns
> >
> >Weather patterns occur over years, decades, even centurieswhich is
> >why I laugh when people claim current weather is 'unusual', considering
> >we've only been keeping records for about 200 years, how can any one who
> >doesn't study historical patterns over MILLENIA (via fossils, tree rings,
> >etc.) know what is, and is not, unusual in the greater scheme of
> >things...
> >
> >What we are experiencing could very well be NORMAL, within the context of
> >a pattern occuring over decades, centuries, perhaps even millenia...
> >
> >
> >June ;-)
> >
> >*===*
> >  Kite
> >
> >So many things you want to see
> >And as you ask I'll set you free
> >But as you fly
> >You'll touch the sky
> >And touch the heart
> >Within me
> >
> >  Fly away.
> >
> >
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[CTRL] Fwd: IMF: Fed Needs To Raise Rates

[Carl Amedio]

In a message dated 8/5/99 6:10:24 PM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes:

<< Subj:IMF: Fed Needs To Raise Rates
 Date:  8/5/99 6:10:24 PM Central Daylight Time
 From:  AOL News
 BCC:   Ahab42

 IMF: Fed Needs To Raise Rates

 .c The Associated Press

  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

 WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States should consider further increases in
interest rates to keep its economic expansion from falling victim to rising
inflation, the International Monetary Fund said Thursday.

 The IMF, releasing for the first time a summary of the discussions its
24-member executive board as part of its annual review of the U.S. economy,
said directors were worried that unless the Federal Reserve acted soon, it
could require even larger rate hikes down the road to combat inflation,
raising the risks of a sharp stock market correction and possible recession.

 ``Directors cautioned that the economy still faced resource constraints, and
the recent very strong growth in domestic demand could not be sustained for
much longer without having inflationary consequences,'' the IMF summary said.

 The IMF report noted that the Federal Reserve had raised a key interest rate
by a quarter point on June 30. That was the first increase in two years in
the federal funds rate, the interest that banks charge each other. There is
growing concern in U.S. financial markets that the Fed will boost rates a
second time when officials meet Aug. 24.

 The IMF summary said that members of its executive board were worried that a
single rate rise would not be enough to slow the U.S. economy to a more
sustainable pace.

 ``Many directors considered that, unless there was evidence soon that the
strength of demand was abating, the authorities should tighten monetary
policy further to ensure that the expansion remained on a sustainable
noninflationary path,'' the IMF summary said.

 ``They emphasized that waiting too long to act would risk having to raise
interest rates more sharply later to stem a pickup in inflation, which would
increase the likelihood of a sharp stock market correction,'' the IMF said.

 The 182-nation IMF, which took the lead in handling the global currency
crisis, noted its executive board was not unanimous about the need for
further U.S. rate increases.

 ``Some other directors, however, were less inclined to think that an
increase in interest rates would be called for in the near future,'' the
summary said.

 The release of the summary of the board's discussions on the U.S. economy
was part of a pilot program adopted in April under which the agency will
release greater detail on its annual economic reviews if authorized to do so
by the member country.

 Critics charged that IMF secrecy was one of the contributing factors that
triggered the Asian currency crisis because it allowed investors to be caught
by surprise at the severity of economic conditions in a number of crisis
countries.

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IMF: Fed Needs To Raise Rates

.c The Associated Press

 By MARTIN CRUTSINGER

WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States should consider further increases in interest 
rates to keep its economic expansion from falling victim to rising inflation, the 
International Monetary Fund said Thursday.

The IMF, releasing for the first time a summary of the discussions its 24-member 
executive board as part of its annual review of the U.S. economy, said directors were 
worried that unless the Federal Reserve acted soon, it could require even larger rate 
hikes down the road to combat inflation, raising the risks of a sharp stock market 
correction and possible recession.

``Directors cautioned that the economy still faced resource constraints, and the 
recent very strong growth in domestic demand could not be sustained for much longer 
without having inflationary consequences,'' the IMF summary said.

The IMF report noted that the Federal Reserve had raised a key interest rate by a 
quarter point on June 30. That was the first increase in two years in the federal 
funds rate, the interest that banks charge each other. There is growing concern in 
U.S. financial markets that the Fed will boost rates a second time when officials meet 
Aug. 24.

The IMF summary said that members of its executive board were worried that a single 
rate rise would not be enough to slow the U.S. economy to a more sustainable pace.

``Many directors considered that, unless there was ev

[CTRL] George Dubya (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

 -Caveat Lector-

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:05:01 -0500
   The Progressive June 1999
Author:  Ivins, Molly
 Title: The Scoop on George Dubya.(Governor George W. Bush)
   by Molly Ivins

COPYRIGHT 1999 Progressive Inc.
  OK, Dubya. Everybody wants to know about Dubya. He's the Man, the Republican
nominee, the next President of the United States. All the polls say so. The
inevitable nominees and next-Presidents the polls have been wrong about is
without number but--like Charlie Brown and the football--the press corps falls
for the same trick every time. At about this point in the 1992 election,
practically no one outside Arkansas had ever heard of Bill Clinton, and
Dubya's daddy had a 90 percent approval rating.
  Poor Shrub, what an awful position to be in: frontrunner about whom nothing
is known, suffering from inflated expectations worse than the Superman balloon
in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. He can't speak, he can't govern, he
doesn't have any ideas, he's done almost nothing--what can he do but
disappoint people?
  He is, however, a nice guy. You'd really have to work at it to dislike
George Dubya Bush. He is, as we say in our quaint Texas fashion, affable out
the ass.
  Perhaps the chief misunderstanding abroad about Dubya is that he has been
governor of Texas for the last four years. Texas has what is known in
political science circles as "the weak-governor system." All the Southern
states have it: It's a hangover from Reconstruction, and Texas has it worse
than most. If you win two terms as Texas governor, by the end of that time you
might have a majority of your appointees on some important commissions, but
that would be about it.
  By virtue of the state constitution and the senate rules, our lieutenant
governor usually has more power than the governor. Until this year, the Lite
Guv was Bob Bullock, a wily old trout, and Shrub was just smart enough to do
whatever Bullock told him to. There grew a father-son relationship between the
two to the extent that Bullock, a lifelong Democrat, endorsed Shrub for
reelection in 1998.
  But we still don't know whether Shrub can govern anything. On the evidence,
he's not greatly interested in governance. If you think his daddy had trouble
with "the vision thing," wait'll you meet this one. He doesn't seem to read
about or know about or care much about how government actually works. To this
day, when someone comes in to see him about some fairly complex subject--say,
nursing home regulation or home health care--his response is to spread his
arms wide and announce, "I don't know anything about it, you'll have to talk
to so-and-so on my staff." In our more optimistic moments, we consider this
evidence that he knows how to delegate. For just one for-instance, Wisconsin's
Tommy Thompson is a much better governor.
  But Shrub does have some real political skills, and political skill should
not be despised. He has done two very smart things.
  First, he knew he had to go after the Hispanic vote. Texas becomes
majority-minority in 2003, and Hispanics have already passed blacks as our
largest minority. Unlike that doofus Pete Wilson in California, Bush has never
attacked Hispanics, blamed "illegal aliens" for the state's problems, or
proposed to kick the children of illegals out of school. Instead, he spent an
enormous amount of his time as governor going to Tejano political, cultural,
and social events, getting to know most of the players by sight and first
name. According to his office, he speaks Spanish, although fluent Spanish
speakers doubt that. He can easily read a couple of sentences in Spanish;
conversation is a different matter. At to-dos, they tend to cue the mariachis
after he's done his two sentences.
  Second, he has accomplished a formidable straddle by keeping a moderate face
on the Texas Republican Party while the entire operation has been completely
taken over by the Christian Right. It's difficult to exaggerate the extent to
which the Texas Republican Party is now run by the Christian Right: chair,
vice-chairs, grassroots, lock, stock, and barrel. At their convention in Fort
Worth three years ago, they voted against a resolution in favor of civility,
pretty much on the grounds that it was a secular plot. It was quite a moment.
  While Bush is by class, birth, and education part of the American elite,
which is, in turn, largely Christian as a matter of good form, Dubya claims to
have had a "born again" experience--at the instigation of Billy Graham, which
is, in itself, somewhat Establishment. He also became a teetotaler at age
forty.
  The Christian Right has never considered him, as was also true of his
father, sufficiently militant against abortion. Dubya's position is that he is
completely opposed to it--except for rape, incest, and life of the mother--but
that a constitutional amendment outlawin

[CTRL] 'No Position' Bush (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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-- Forwarded message -
  Citation: The Progressive July 1999, v.63, 7, 46
Author:  Ivins, Molly
 Title: `No Position' Bush.(Texas Gov George W. Bush takes not
   position on state hate crimes bill and bill to use
   federal funds to provide health insurance to poor
   children)(Brief Article) by Molly Ivins

COPYRIGHT 1999 Progressive Inc.
  A few weeks ago, a consoling clip from an Arizona newspaper arrived on my
desk informing me that one member of the Arizona legislature had said to
another, "Gee, I didn't know you were Jewish. You don't look Jewish. You don't
have a big hook nose." There was even a picture of the Jewish member helpfully
labeled: DOES NOT HAVE BIG HOOK NOSE.
  A pal sent me this snippet because the last time I was in Arizona this
sensitive state representative had managed to conflate homosexuality and
cannibalism into a single menace, a confusion so remarkable I felt impelled to
write about it. It's always nice to know not all the morons are in the Texas
Lege.
  Trouble is, I can't think of anything else encouraging about the
seventy-sixth session of the Texas Lege. I'll put our morons up against
theirs, any time.
  Representative Arlene Wohlgemuth, one of our top contenders, opposed a
resolution noting that 1.5 million Texas children do not have health
insurance. She said they might not have health insurance because their parents
are so rich they can afford to pay cash for medical care. "Their parents might
be making $1 million a year. It is still our right in this country not to have
health insurance," she said.
  The right not to have health insurance is one of the most under-celebrated
rights we have in this great nation, and we are all grateful to Arlene for
pointing it out to us.
  Perhaps the high point of the session was the day the Democratic minority in
the Senate left the chamber en masse, decamped to the rotunda of the capitol,
and there proceeded to hold hands and pray. Led in prayer, I might add, by
Senator John Whitmire of Houston, who has not heretofore been much noted for
Christian leadership. (Whitmire has taken offense at my astonishment over his
new incarnation as a spiritual leader and informs me he is known as "John the
Baptist.") The proximate cause of this Democratic recourse to The Lord was
that they couldn't get the hate crimes bill out of committee. And the reason
they couldn't get it out is because gays and lesbians were included in the
bill, and that presented a huge problem for George W. Bush, who is running for
President. Because, you see, it would upset the many fundamentalist Christians
who would vote in Republican primaries if killing "sinners" was somehow
especially illegal. I know this because Senator Drew Nixon explained it to
Senator Rodney Ellis, sponsor of the hate crimes bill. Senator Nixon knows his
onions when it comes to sin, he being our leading convicted perp in the
Senate, having done time for the unfortunate sin of soliciting a prostitute
last year. He served his sentence in a halfway house and, may I add, is in
point of actual fact one of the more useful and intelligent members of the
Texas Senate.
  I am in some danger of becoming fond of Senator Nixon, who has populist
instincts. You may think incipient fondness for him reflects poorly on my
judgment, but that's only because you don't know the other Republicans in the
Senate.
  Senator Florence Shapiro, one of the other Republicans, said the entire hate
crimes bill was about one man, George W. Bush--all an effort to embarrass the
governor. Actually, the hate crimes bill was about one man, and his name was
James Byrd Jr., who was dragged to death behind a pickup truck near Jasper,
Texas, last year because he was black. His corpse was recovered in chunks. In
this year of Our Lord 1999, the legislature of the state of Texas is still not
ready to condemn hate crimes because that includes crimes against "queers." A
lesser person might be discouraged by that. The governor, incidentally, had no
position on the hate crimes bill: That's the governor's usual position--he has
no position. He has said, "All crimes are hate crimes." As Representative
Senfronia Thompson, House sponsor of the James Byrd Jr. Memorial Bill, asked
sarcastically, "Is forgery a hate crime? Fraud? Prostitution? Armed robbery?"
  The other big fight of the session was over whether to use federal money to
give health insurance to the children of the poor (about 165,000 kids would be
covered). The governor had no position. The House, the one that still has a
Democratic majority, prevailed.
  Governor Bush, the crown prince of the Republican Party, had one big goal
this session: He wants to give $2 billion in property tax relief back to the
people who own property in this state. Texas has an extraordinarily regressive
tax structure; it weighs most heavily 

[CTRL] Fairness, Republican Style. (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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-- Forwarded message ---
Author:  Ivins, Molly
 Title: Fairness, Republican Style.

COPYRIGHT 1999 Progressive Inc.
  Thank God all that insane impeachment claptrap is over so we can finally get
around to discussing the important public issues of the day. Such as whether
Tinky Winky, the purple Tele-tubbie, is gay.
  We live in a great nation.
  The minute the impeachment trial was over, the Republicans made a gesture,
the Democrats criticized it, and the Republicans sprang into battle position
screaming, "Class warfare!"
  As you know, this traditional bit of theater occurs whenever Democrats, in
some rare atavistic lapse into their ancestral mores, point out that
Republicans are giving tax breaks to the rich again.
  One happy anti-class warrior wrote in The Washington Times, "These people
resent success and want to seize the income of people they envy They are
the hate-and-envy crowd." Sheesh, stand up for just a smidgen of justice in
this world, and there you are, in the hate-and-envy crowd.
  "A 10 percent across-the-board tax cut, what could be fairer?" demanded
Senator Trent Lott, well-known friend of the working class. What could be
fairer than a tax cut that gives 62 percent of its benefits to the richest 10
percent of the people? A tax cut that gives 32 percent of its benefits to the
richest 1 percent? A tax cut where the lower 60 percent of income earners
would get an average cut of $99, while those making more than $300,000 a year
would get an average $20,697?
  I dunno--we'll have to think about what could be fairer than that.
  The figures on who would benefit most from that supremely fair
across-the-board tax cut come from Citizens for Tax Justice, which does get
some money from the labor movement. According to The Washington Times, this
makes it "radical," "a leftist think tank."
  In the next act, condescending Republicans point out, with painstaking
patience, the reason, actually, that rich people get a larger share of the
across-the-board tax cut is because--tah dah!--rich people pay more in income
taxes. Thanks for your help on that, Sherlock. We never could have figured it
out without you. Guess we'll also never figure out why the rich have gotten so
much richer while everybody else hasn't.
  Who needs a tax cut more: a young couple with two small children making
$30,000 a year, or a Wall Street broker making $500,000? It might all depend
on your concept of fairness, except for one odd fact: The $63 billion federal
surplus, which would fund the proposed across-the-board tax cut, does not come
from income taxes but from Social Security taxes. Check it out: If you exclude
Social Security taxes, the federal budget is barely in balance; the surplus
comes from deductions from the paychecks of working Americans.
  So the Republican-proposed across-the-board tax cut takes payroll taxes from
average Americans and gives the great bulk of it to the richest 10 percent of
the people in the country.
  And note that the Social Security tax maxes out at $72,600: All income above
that level is untaxed. So our hypothetical $500,000-a-year Wall Street broker
pays no more in Social Security than a couple making $45,000 each, but he gets
much, much more of a tax cut. What could be fairer than that?
  Now it's true, as Republicans are fond of pointing out, that the very
poorest income workers pay nothing in federal income taxes. That's because of
the Earned Income Tax Credit, which may have been the only good idea Ronald
Reagan ever had--and good on Bill Clinton for expanding it, too. But poorer
workers still have to pay payroll taxes, including Social Security. So money
from farm workers and janitors will help fund the tax cut for our $500K-a-year
broker.
  In Texas, where we have compassionate conservatism, we are getting
compassionate taxation.
  For example, last month Governor Shrub declared an emergency so the very
first bill the legislature passed could go into effect immediately: It was a
$45 million tax break for the oil and gas industry. But not for the owners of
great big oil and gas wells. No, this tax break is only for the owners of
small oil wells--tiny, itty-bitty, really.
  Senator J.R. (Buster) Brown explained, "The oil industry is hurting." And
there's nothing like pain in the oil industry to touch the compassion in a
conservative. Of course, the bill does dump an additional $45 million worth of
tax liability on everyone in the state who doesn't own a teeny-tiny oil well.
And, according to a recent report by the state comptroller's office, the
poorest Texans shoulder a disproportionate share of the state's total tax
burden already.
  Block that compassion!

 Molly Ivins is a columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: [cp] Fwd: Dear Senator Feinstein]

[Bill]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Subject: Fwd: Dear Senator Feinstein
> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrien Burke)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: Fwd: Dear Senator Feinstein
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:38:30 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrien Burke)
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Dear Senator Feinstein
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:33:37 -0700 (PDT)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrien Burke)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> It has come to my attention that a bill bearing your name, and that of
> Orrin Hatch, would outlaw telling people how to grow marijuana for
> medical purposes and would even forbid providing links to some sites on
> the internet. This is a good start, but I am wondering, why not bite the
> bullet and revisit the first amendment in a bolder way. The war on drugs
> has commendably eliminated any serious defense of the fourth amendment,
> and made real inroads on the fifth and eighth. The war on drugs
> justifies anything, and if you can truly break the back of the first
> amendment, the so-called bill of rights (or bill of goods) will be dead
> in the water. Theres never  been a better time to overthrow democracy
> once and for all and turn the nation over to those who own it, who
> contribute the money that enables all of our elected "representatives"
> to get elected, and who stand firmly behind both political parties.
> Think of it! Voter participation (partly because the voters understand
> the hopelessness of attempting real change) is at an all time low.
> Thanks to an intensely mediocre public education system and a press
> unwilling to play the old watchdog role, Americans are vastly
> uninformed.  In order to effect this long overdue ruling class
> revolution, you don't have to strip the people of the vote - it is
> irrelevant. You don't even have to hide behind the rhetoric of the drug
> war (which justifies anything) if you don't want to. Just do it.
> Nobody's looking. Honest.
> -Sincerely,
> ---Adrien Burke. Los Angeles, Calif

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[CTRL] Canadian military exposed to PCB's and bauxite in Serbia (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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Subject: what the Canadian military doesn't want you to know..

File-Tampering Now Subject of Criminal Investigation

OTTAWA (AP) - A special military police unit led by a Mountie has opened a
criminal investigation into the possible destruction of documents from army
medical files.

``We have enough information to form a theory that the documents in question
were indeed shredded,'' RCMP Insp. Russ Grabb said Thursday in announcing
that his preliminary investigation has become a formal criminal investigation.

Grabb said they are looking into whether any laws were broken when a medical
memo was removed from the files of soldiers who served with the UN in Croatia
in 1993.

The memo warned that the soldiers had been exposed to bauxite, an aluminum
ore, and PCBs, a potentially cancer-causing substance once used as an
electrical insulator. The soldiers filled sandbags with bauxite, work which
left them coated with caked, reddish dust.

During the last two weeks, Grabb and his people looked into the situation and
finally concluded a formal investigation was needed.

The military announced last month a board of inquiry would look into the
allegations.

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[CTRL] Unknown war leaves victims in anonymity (fwd)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unknown war leaves victims in anonymity

August 5, 1999

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

At 1:30 a.m. Tuesday, the remains of 29-year-old Capt. Jennifer J. Odom, U.S.
Army, arrived at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. The television cameras,
usually present at such events, were nowhere to be seen. Indeed, the news
media were totally absent, and the event went unrecorded. Nor was President
Clinton there to feel her family's pain.


Odom, along with her co-pilot and three other crew members, died July 23 when
the DeHavilland RC7 reconnaissance plane she was piloting crashed into a
mountain in southern Colombia. The Pentagon says there is "no evidence" that
narco-guerrillas shot down the plane, but adds that the investigation is
continuing.


In any event, the five-member crew constituted the first U.S. military
personnel to be killed in the war against the drug-financed, leftist
insurrection subverting Colombia. Jennifer Odom is an unsung heroine in an
unknown war.


The non-stop propaganda machinery during 78 days of bombing Yugoslavia was
mute about the death of Odom, the first American woman pilot killed in
action. The Clinton administration says as little as possible about Colombia.
It never wanted to get involved there, but has been dragged into a conflict
it deplores, and still presses for a negotiated settlement with the
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC. If Kosovo was a liberal's
war, Colombia certainly is not.


Thus, the nation and even most of Congress were unaware that the United
States dispatches aircraft on hazardous duty over FARC-occupied Colombia.
U.S. planes have been on such missions for years, but what is new is the
DeHavilland RC7s, carrying signal intelligence equipment to eavesdrop on the
guerrillas' highly sophisticated communications system. "This is a very black
[secret] operation," said one military source.


A Pentagon spokesman said that the Odom plane's principal mission was
"imagery" (taking pictures), but added that signal intelligence equipment was
on board and might have been used. Independent military experts, however,
contend that less technologically advanced aircraft--or, indeed,
satellites--could handle imagery. The RC7 is configured to tap enemy
communications (as it did in helping Peru's government in 1997, when
terrorists seized the Japanese embassy in Lima). But the lid has been placed
on Odom's outfit, the 204th Military Intelligence Battalion in Fort Bliss,
Texas, to bar conversations with the press.


Similarly, military sources questioned the likelihood that Odom's death was
accidental. The RC7's navigation equipment is so sophisticated that it is
hard to imagine an experienced pilot crashing into a mountain without some
provocation by enemy forces below.


Such questions went unasked amid the news blackout of the disaster. The
wreckage was spotted July 25, but the names of the crew were not officially
disclosed until Monday (long after next of kin had been notified).


Pentagon sources speculated that the high command did not want a female
pilot's death in Colombia to interfere with the celebration of Lt. Col.
Eileen Collins' successful command of the Space Shuttle Columbia. It surely
did not. At this writing, only Newsweek, among the mass media, has published
a news report on the crash.


Thus did the first casualties of Colombia's war go unmentioned in much of the
country. In addition to Odom, they include her co-pilot, Capt. Jose A.
Santiago, as well as Chief Warrant Officer Thomas G. Moore, Specialist T.
Bruce Cluff and Specialist Ray E. Krueger. Typically, when Republican Rep.
Constance Morella took the House floor Tuesday morning to praise astronaut
Collins, there was no mention of her fellow Marylander whose remains had
arrived at Dover only hours before.


Republican Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, whose district contains Odom's hometown of
Brunswick, Md., reported that her family was frustrated by inability to get
calls immediately returned by the Defense Department, while the military
searched for John F. Kennedy Jr. Senior military officials later telephoned
Odom's mother. But President Clinton, usually adept in commiserating with
tragedy, said nothing.


Although Attorney General Janet Reno led a government delegation to honor the
slain pilot at Dover, nobody was there to represent the White House. The
omission was hardly accidental. If Jennifer Odom's death continues to be
ignored, there can be no debate about how well this war is being fought, and
little attention may be paid to Friday's hearing on Colombia by a House
investigating subcommittee headed by Rep. John Mica of Florida.




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Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

[Nicola Molloy]

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Well said Andrew!!

It could be a biological problem too. I think the femininization of men
today is to do with what hormones have been put into their bodies
artificially. I mean woman used to take the pill in the 60's with 300
times the bodies estrogen and then go and have a baby. Then we have
plastic containers and weed killers which have an estrogen effect on the
body, not to mention all the hormones in the milk and meat. Plus all the
soy products added into the food with estrogen. The Thames river in
London is full of it. This is because women take the pill and then they
flush it down the toilet and then it goes in the drinking water again
which comes from the Thames.  It is indestructible. Men drink it.

I can't for the life of me think how women could have gotten so
masculine :) maybe it is the constant barrage of movies producing too
much adrenalin. I won't go to a movie unless it has a thrill a minute.
I've become an adrenaline junkie. Armageddon, Star Wars, Soldier. Who
wants to actually do housework and be docile after watching something
that has made you believe life must have more excitement from then on.
Quick send me some London water to balance the scales!

Nicky




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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> >Andrew's response also belies the common misperception that rape has to
> >do with sex, when in reality it deals with power and coercion...
>
> >June ;-)
>
> Actually, I'm just a naive marginalised victim of a post masculine society
> dominated by New Age women who beat on sensitive men because they have not
> the courage to tackle the real brutes that made them that way.
>
>

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[CTRL] Forfeiture as Enterprise

[Bill]

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  I  want  to introduce you to Nancy Wall,  whose
entire
>  family has been hit hard by the drug war.  Like millions  of
>  American citizens, she has been abused by bad laws and their
>  enforcers.
>
>   This  lady, Nancy Wall, is one of the best/worst  exam-
>  ples  I know of abuse of forfeiture laws.  Her  husband  and
>  son  were forced to plea bargain with no drugs in  evidence.
>  Both  are serving 12 years each (I think they are  in  their
>  seventh  year)  on  marijuana  charges  because  the   'law'
>  threatened to put mom in jail for 20 years.
>
>   While  the 15 or 20 law officers from the DEA  on  down
>  were  ransacking their home at six am, as usual on the  word
>  of a friend turned snitch, they were dropping Nancy's jewel-
>  ry  in their pocket.  A plaque from her home still hangs  in
>  the  local  DEA agent's office.  Even after the  bust,  they
>  made  her deliver a television that was not in her house  at
>  the time of the raid to the DEA office downtown, to go  with
>  the VCR they took from her home.
>
>   They  stole  her  house and put it up  for  sale.   Her
>  sister-in-law bought it back for her, and that made the  DEA
>  so mad, they sent the IRS in.  IRS now has a $45,000 lien on
>  her home for 'unreported drug money.' Every once in  awhile,
>  they still call her down to shake her upside down for  spare
>  change.
>
>   During  the  arrest, the cops and agents  pillaged  and
>  plundered,  screamed, threw Mr.  and Mrs.  Wall  around  and
>  pointed guns in their faces.  Believe me, the arrest of non-
>  violent  people seems to be a training ground  for  bullies,
>  because the violence of the law is uncalled for.
>
>   They put a monitor on her ankle for six months,  forced
>  her to serve five years probation, and she wouldn't dream of
>  doing any drug her doctor doesn't give her.  They ripped off
>  her  bank  account containing severance pay  from  N.A.S.A.,
>  where  she had worked for 25-30 years.  She had  proof  that
>  the  money was not drug money, but they didn't  care.   They
>  had $ signs in their eyes.
>
>   The  Walls are in their sixties, their son in his  40s.
>  None  have ever crossed paths with the law  before.   Nancy,
>  like  I say, had worked many years for N.A.S.A.Her  hus-
>  band, Jim, retired from the military after a long career and
>  distinguished  career, and her son, Jeff, was  middle  class
>  America.   Nancy and Jim have been married for 46 years  and
>  she's having a hard time holding on.  She put off  extensive
>  hip  surgery for as long as she could, hoping to  wait  till
>  her family was home to help her.  Last fall she finally  was
>  forced to have the surgery alone.
>
>   The  day after they put the electronic monitor on  her,
>  she  went to N.A.S.A.  and the people she worked  with  were
>  lined  up to hug her, some crying.  The Walls were  valuable
>  assets  to  friends, neighbors and  co-workers.   They  were
>  paying their way, helping others, pursuing life, and now the
>  whole family is just a statistic.
>
>   All over America, people are loosing respect for  those
>  who make the laws, as well as those who enforce them.   This
>  excuse, "We're just doing our job" is an outright lie.   Too
>  many  of them are enjoying their job, relishing  their  job,
>  and making profits off the perversion of their jobs.  Little
>  silver-haired Nancy, everytime a cop passes, whispers angri-
>  ly, "I just hate those bastards." Can you blame her?
>
>   Before this happens to you,
>   END PROHIBITION NOW
>
>   Kay Lee
>
>   Kay Lee
>   http://www.zyworld.com/kay~lee/home.htm
>   "These  things  will destroy the human  race:  politics
>  without  principle;  progress  without  compassion;   wealth
>  without  work;  learning without silence;  religion  without
>  fearlessness and worship without awareness."
>
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[CTRL] [Hot-News-Alerts] Second Man Quarantined In Berlin Ebola Scare (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

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Updated 12:33 PM ET August 5, 1999
By Deborah Cole
BERLIN (Reuters) - A second man was in quarantine in Germany Thursday
after a friend who accompanied him to West Africa was hospitalized in
an isolation ward with a mystery illness doctors fear could be caused
by the deadly Ebola virus.

Health officials stressed the second man had so far shown no signs of
illness. He returned Sunday from a two-week working trip to Ivory
Coast with a 40-year-old filmmaker who was airlifted Tuesday to
Berlin's isolation hospital.

There was still no word Thursday afternoon on the results of blood
tests on the sick man, identified as Olaf Ullmann from the eastern
border town of Frankfurt-an-der-Oder.

Medical staff wore hermetically sealed suits and breathing apparatus
as they treated him. They also were restricted to the medical
complex.

Ullmann was thought to be suffering from a viral hemorrhagic fever.
Its symptoms are likely to have been caused one of by four
potentially fatal tropical viruses -- Ebola, Marburg, lassa or
dengue, medical experts said.

Like all viruses there are no cures. All that can be done is to treat
the symptoms and hope the patient pulls through.

Ebola, which causes high fever and severe bleeding, is one of the
most deadly viruses known. It killed 81 percent of victims in a 1995
outbreak in Zaire, now the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Authorities erected a 6-foot-high fence around the ward where Ullmann
was being treated, and security guards were deployed to patrol the
area.

The tough measures sparked frenzied media speculation about the case
and whether he may have infected other passengers on the flights he
took home from Africa.

"Will his fellow passengers spread the virus around Europe, could
tens of thousands of people already be affected?" asked Germany's
mass-readership Bild newspaper.

Health authorities said any threat that the man might have infected
others on his flights from the Ivory Coast via Zurich to Berlin was
minimal.

Camera teams and photographers were lined up at the gate to the
Charite treatment center from the early morning, trying to catch a
glimpse of the man, whose bed is inside a plastic tent.

Doctors on the wooded grounds of the hospital said they were
frustrated by the media attention and the disruption.

"This media circus is just what a patient in such a condition does
not need," said Birgit Zippel, an asthma specialist. "There is no
reason for this hysteria -- not for the general public and not for
those of us working here."

Swissair, the airline that flew the men and their partners back from
Africa, said it had made its passenger lists available to the German
health authorities and was able to identify who sat near the group.

"But we have no decision on what the illness is and therefore what
precautions to take as yet," Swissair spokesman Erwin Schaerer told
Reuters. He said he had no knowledge of other passengers being
contacted.

The cameraman's wife was not in quarantine, nor was the girlfriend of
the second man. Both were being carefully monitored along with the
medical staff who attended the cameraman in his home town before he
was transferred by helicopter to Berlin.

"He was pretty exhausted but we were all exhausted and we couldn't
possibly imagine that something might be wrong with him," Ullmann's
wife Kordula told Reuters.

Two help lines were set up to answer the public's questions.


danr
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Re: [CTRL] Intergalactic Stock Market

[Andrew Hennessey]

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  What we do have is a diversity of plant and
>animal life that if someones cloning, replicator, or
>documantion fails - they would be able to get it from the
>Earth.  They might also like to read a good book.  Our history
>might intrest them.  They did it and might wonder about some
>of the hurdles that we were able to overcome, as well as how
>honest we had been with ourselves.
>
>What if there were and intergalactic stock market?  What
>would be traded?  DNA source codes, Think of all the
>unique DNA (S.American rain forests, the old forests
>of England, ect) that has been lost.

I have thought this for some time ... what do we have ...

1. artefacts and produce, arts and foodstuffs
2. software concepts/intellectual property of the ages/design database
3. diverse DNA

its likely that many ET cultures do not live life as intensely as the Human
Race - The Human Being being blinkered/shuttered from the Great Truth that
life goes on continuously, spends his/her time feverishly producing in what
we think are our brief life spans ... the result - a veritable mine of
creativity and intellectual property on a planet rich in Genetic Diversity.
We hear stories of how 'emotionless beings' listen in on and steal our
experiences as we grind on unaware of the Big Picture - we may be mistaken
if we think earth to be of little value.

Andrew

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[CTRL] the light beyond the darkness

[Andrew Hennessey]

 -Caveat Lector-

What follows is a personal interpretation of experiences within my life -
they are true as far as I know them - and they help me get through the day,
however, they may not be true for you - in which case, I apologise and ask
you to be patient - for your truth may be apparent to you.

'The Light Beyond the Darkness'  by Andrew Hennessey.  copyright 1999


I am reading a facinating book by James Hillman, The Soul's Code  - In
search of character and calling.  The jacket says:
"When all the souls had chosen their lives, they went before Lachesis.
And she sent with each, as the guardian of his life and the fulfiller of
his choice, the daimon that he had chosen."  Plato, Republic Book X
I have memories that I believe are pre-natal - see what you make of this -
I am in a discussion with someone presumably male whom I cannot see - below
us all is grey and I can just make out the planet.
He is asking me to choose my incarnation - I am shown about a dozen
families/social potential/lessons in Western Europe.
I ask - which is the most difficult - he says - that one - then proceeds to
attempt to talk me out of it - I say but this lesson from that part of a
past life will get me through this bit, and experience from that life will
cover this bit - and running six lessons from other existences would get me
thus far etc.
The next thing I can remember is standing in a circle with others who are
about to be born grey/gold monotone, we are all wearing robes, we each hold
a cup and drink the cup of parting.
The next sequence, I am being wrapped in black stuff rather like windings,
and these are meant to dim my sensitivities - I complain about this.
The next sequence, I am lying in my cot, I am born, about 2 years, I can
remember my parents bedroom clearly and I am staring at the transfer of a
lake on the inside of my cot - the waters start shimmering and moving, then
I look up and there is a shimmering above my cot - there is a lady and she
speaks to me.
I am not going goo-goo ga ga, I am having an intelligent conversation at a
time science tells me that I should not, she is my guardian, she asks,
quote,' are you sure you want to do it this way ?' - I considered, then
said yes [I believe I had opted to retain a faculty to be awake - which
probably could be stressful]
she said 'I'll be back - see you later'at that my intelligence faded,
and I was back to goo goo, ga ga.
These memories, however strange, are very special to me.

During my rather solitary childhood I played in the trees and lawns of my
backgarden with an invisible friend called the colonel, who stayed in a
small apple tree out of sight of the house.  He suggested games and ways to
play with my toys and I was never bored or lonely.
The first indication that I was on the rocky road betwixt the light and the
dark came at the age of 13, during an unpleasant school career.
My last year of primary school and the class was saying the lords prayer …
I am surrounded by grey blue mist - I can see myself, a young man with
short hair in a clean long robe - around, all is mist, but a path clears,
and I find myself journeying along that path, being torn and buffeted from
all directions.
I stagger and fall to my knees and I see myself, ragged, torn, bleeding,
bearded, and I crawl on and come to a clearing in this cruel mist.
On a cross amidst a pile of stones in the centre of the clearing is a
figure, crucified, I crawl to the base of the cross and reach out to touch
the foot of the figure.
I may have thought that I was seeing Jesus then, maybe, but maybe I was
seeing my quest to find myself -
My first psychic attack happened at the age of 18, where three pairs of red
eyes came towards me in my minds eye, diving at me, causing pain when they
passed over, and scaring me.
Not long after that, a parade of motley ghosts flitted across my minds eye,
monks in dark robes with pointed hoods and unseen faces, rappings on my
wall, ornaments falling over, I started to fear the night, the noises I
would hear, what was under my bed, in the wardrope, what I would see.
One night in the 1970's in the twilight of my room, I felt that something
horrible could happen, and I had left a little lamp on.
My breathing was getting slower and slower, and worried, I put my finger to
my neck to take my pulse and realised that it was very very slow. I gazed
at the lamp and noted a grainy effect of the light, as if I could see
little individual photons or packets of light.  To my horror, at the foot
of my bed, a black hole had manifested in stark contrast to the light in
the room, and I could feel myself being pulled in - as if some evil wanted
to suck me into the pits of hell.
Plagued by demonic images of brown and light brown pibald beings glowing
with a brown inner light, strange manta rays being ridden across the astral
plane with some horrible rider in them, light relief comes one evening when
a scaly coal black imp visits me when I have the flu, and before I get
frightened, not

Re: [CTRL] Drought

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

Subject: (no subject)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:46:11 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Update on possible government strategy concerning pre-Y2K
evacuations
inferred to be scheduled for 1 September 1999.

There was quite a test of the publics gullibility earlier
this year by TV
channels locally (Tampa Florida) as they exhibited a
concerted effort to TEST
their effectiveness of control in an emergency situation.  A
hurricane in the
Florida keys late in 1998 was used as justification to
create a local frenzy
in Tampa and evacuations were staged at that time even
though it was well
evident to anyone not programmed by televisions party line
that there was no
possible way for the hurricane to hit.  There was nothing
but news of this
hurricane on the television at this time and it was quite
informative for us
who have seen government disinformation at work before to
watch another
tawdry attempt unfold before our very eyes.

 Using the front of the false hurricane they created panic
and an evacuation
situation.  Evacuations actually happened even though the
hurricane was no
where near Tampa Bay at the time and never came close.

 Today on TV began the conditioning by which a possible
martial law situation
will be instituted in Sept 1 1999.  "Listen to what the
experts tell you at
all times" are the words of dick fletcher, a tampa bay
meteorologist spouting
that a major hurricane hasn't hit Tampa bay in x number of
years (This varies
from 75 to 15 depending on the news people you talk to or
listen to).

When this information or disinformation is coupled with  the
very real and
proven weather control capabilities of the HAARP aspect of
the "Full Global
shield", which is a very well developed and Highly
classified congressional
special interest project, one can begin to see how
government plans to use
every device at their disposal to frighten and control the
people as the new
world order moves in to take over.  Preparing for
evacuations now?
Admonishments to evacuate at the advice of experts?  The
ability to steer
hurricanes?  Are you getting it yet?

  We need to keep a very close eye on this stuff.  You know
its coming and
you know the government knows the y2k gig is up, so they
WILL try to hurry
the situation.  Florida is a real problem to the new world
order because of
the shadiness of all political dealings here which are a
product of the
hugeness of this particular political money pot.  Jeb Bush
is from a family
who WORSHIPS conflict.  Why else the Christian line as if
they were holier
than thou, all the while making known, or letting known,
their associations
with secret societies that can only be called
anti-christian...its the way
they are, its what the drug war is all about, because if
people are bound up
with conflict they are not paying attention to what they
should be paying
attention to, and they are easy prey, and the profits are
enormous.  What a
bunch of sheep we have become.  Please never say I didn't
tell you.

 The sharp increase in Law enforcement here should be enough
to let every
Floridian know that this has been planned for a long time by
people with a
lot of money.  Thankfully a lot of the law enforcement
officers are beginning
to see this as their newest orders trickle down, and the
militia info
percolates upthey truly are putting it together in ways
that must be
scaring the hell out of them.  I have talked to a few, and
many are quitting
or distancing themselves.  We can only hope the number of
police who
understand this grows and a mutiny takes place.  They must
understand its
about a takeover and they will be shooting at the WRONG
people, us.

Good Luck and lets watch this very closely, heh?

Bill Gallagher
luxefaire.com
Light Happens
Whether We Like It
Or Not


Sno0wl wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> > Drought Is Worst Since Depression." Washington Post, 2 Aug 99, A1, A7.
> > "Temperatures Drop Across the Midwest." Washington Times, 2 Aug 99, A6.
> >  In the mid-Atlantic and Northeast U.S. the ground is drier than it
> >  has been since the Great Depression according to Agriculture
> >  Secretary Dan Glickman.  While just an inconvenience to some, the
> >  drought has devastated farmers and acres of corn and soybeans.  182
> >  people have died from the sweltering temperatures in the northeast
> >  half of the United States, 30 in Chicago.  A statewide emergency was
> >  declared for Maryland last week and 11 localities in Virginia have
> >  asked for federal disaster assistance.  The East Coast is also
> >  suffering from poor air quality, worsened by the heat and drought.
> >  New York's smog conditions are the worst they have been in a decade.
> >  With no relief in sight, water restrictions have been enforced in
> >  several areas.  Food prices are not expected to increase
> >  significantly.
> >
> I heard some commentator on the evenings news (NBC) talking about the drought and
> saying that

[CTRL] [Fwd: [CTRL] Total Bannishment of Fire Arms Near (fwd)]

[Bill]

 -Caveat Lector-

God Made Big Men, And God Made Small Menand Mr. Colt
Came Along and Made Them Al Equal

MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Many of us have long believed that the media's incessant push for
> regulation of firearms was only a precursor to the real
> objective, i.e., total banishment of guns.
>
> Well, it was only a matter of time before the media began
> demonstrating this posturing, as is evident in the below Time
> editorial.
>
> Anybody know what time it is???
>
> From:
>
> http://cgi.pathfinder.com:80/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,28831-1,00.html
>
> Get Rid of the Damned Things
>
> BY ROGER ROSENBLATT
>
> As terrible as last week's shooting in atlanta was, as terrible
> as all the gun killings of the past few months have been, one has
> the almost satisfying feeling that the country is going through
> the literal death throes of a barbaric era and that mercifully
> soon, one of these monstrous episodes will be the last. High
> time. My guess, in fact, is that the hour has come and gone--that
> the great majority of Americans are saying they favor gun control
> when they really mean gun banishment. Trigger locks, waiting
> periods, purchase limitations, which may seem important
> corrections at the moment, will soon be seen as mere tinkering
> with a machine that is as good as obsolete. Marshall McLuhan said
> that by the time one notices a cultural phenomenon, it has
> already happened. I think the country has long been ready to
> restrict the use of guns, except for hunting rifles and shotguns,
> and now I think we're prepared to get rid of the damned things
> entirely--the handguns, the semis and the automatics.
>
> Those who claim otherwise tend to cite America's enduring love
> affair with guns, but there never was one. The image of
> shoot-'em-up America was mainly the invention of gunmaker Samuel
> Colt, who managed to convince a malleable 19th century public
> that no household was complete without a firearm--"an armed
> society is a peaceful society." This ludicrous aphorism, says
> historian Michael Bellesiles of Emory University, turned 200
> years of Western tradition on its ear. Until 1850, fewer than 10%
> of U.S. citizens had guns. Only 15% of violent deaths between
> 1800 and 1845 were caused by guns. Reputedly wide-open Western
> towns, such as Dodge City and Tombstone, had strict gun-control
> laws; guns were confiscated at the Dodge City limits.
>
> If the myth of a gun-loving America is merely the product of gun
> salesmen, dime-store novels, movies and the National Rifle
> Association (NRA)--which, incidentally, was not opposed to gun
> control until the 1960s, when gun buying sharply increased--it
> would seem that creating a gun-free society would be fairly easy.
> But the culture itself has retarded such progress by creating and
> embellishing an absurd though appealing connection among guns,
> personal power, freedom and beauty. The old western novels
> established a cowboy corollary to the Declaration of Independence
> by depicting the cowboy as a moral loner who preserves the peace
> and his own honor by shooting faster and surer than the
> competition. The old gangster movies gave us opposite versions of
> the same character. Little Caesar is simply an illegal Lone
> Ranger, with the added element of success in the free market. In
> more recent movies, guns are displayed as art objects, people die
> in balletic slow motion, and right prevails if you own "the most
> powerful handgun in the world." I doubt that any of this nonsense
> causes violence, but after decades of repetition, it does invoke
> boredom. And while I can't prove it, I would bet that
> gun-violence entertainment will soon pass too, because people
> have had too much of it and because it is patently false.
>
> Before one celebrates the prospect of disarmament, it should be
> acknowledged that gun control is one of those issues that are
> simultaneously both simpler and more complicated than it appears.
> Advocates usually point to Britain, Australia and Japan as their
> models, where guns are restricted and crime is reduced. They do
> not point to Switzerland, where there is a gun in every home and
> crime is practically nonexistent. Nor do they cite as sources
> criminology professor Gary Kleck of Florida State University,
> whose studies have shown that gun ownership reduces crime when
> gun owners defend themselves, or Professor John R. Lott Jr. of
> the University of Chicago Law School, whose research has
> indicated that gun regulation actually encourages crime.
>
> The constitutional questions raised by gun control are serious as
> well. In a way, the anti-gun movement mirrors the humanitarian
> movement in international politics. Bosnia, Kosovo and Rwanda
> have suggested that the West, the U.S. in particular, is heading
> toward a politics of human rights that supersedes the politics of
> established frontiers and, in some cases, laws. Substitute
> privat

[CTRL] FWD: Alert: Call CBS And Set The Record Straight On The Second Amendment

[A.C. Szul Jr.]

 -Caveat Lector-

  Grassroots Fax Alert -- 8/3/99

Call CBS And Set The Record Straight On The Second Amendment

Last night, CBS Evening News's "Reality Check" segment tried to
recreate American history in its discussion of the Second Amendment. The
piece
totally ignored recent scholarly research and falsely claimed that the
Second
Amendment is not an individual right. To counter this revisionist
history, the National Rifle Association has launched a campaign to
provide CBS News
with its own reality check.

"Clearly, the reality of CBS is not in step with the reality of the
view of the  vast majority of law-abiding Americans, nor in line with
the view of
most  constitutional scholars. The national media elite at CBS wouldn't
know
reality if it stepped in front of Dan Rather's limousine," said James
J. Baker, Executive Director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action.
"This alleged news network completely ignored a mountain of recent
research from constitutional scholars who agree that the Second
Amendment refers to an individual right, just as the First and Fourth
Amendments do."

"Every American, every journalist, who values truth, accuracy and
balanced reporting should call and express their outrage at CBS'
effort to disguise their editorial bias as news," Baker said. "It is
little wonder that their ratings continue to diminish."

ACTION ITEM: Please call CBS News and your local CBS affiliate to
express your outrage over last night's so-called "news" report that
blatantly ignored the over- whelming majority of recent scholarly
research. CBS Evening News's main phone number is
(212) 975-3691, and the phone number for anchor Dan Rather
is (212) 975-6677.

Among its many "oversights," CBS failed to cite the 1990 Supreme
Court reference to the Second Amendment in U.S. v.
Verdugo-Urquidez that stated, "`the people' protected by the
Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments ...
refers to a class of persons who are part of the national
community." Each of these Amendments protects individual
rights. The network also neglected to report this year's federal
court ruling from the Northern District of Texas, U.S. v. Emerson,
(see FAX Alert Vol.6, No. 12) in which the federal judge overturned
a federal gun law on Second Amendment grounds and argued,
"The rights of the Second Amendment should be as zealously
guarded as the other individual liberties enshrined in the bill of
rights." And the list goes on and on.

Mr. Baker sums it up well, commenting, "The bottom line is that
CBS failed as a news organization last night. They even completely
ignored statements by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
in clear and full support the Second Amendment as an individual
right and in anticipation of ruling on a future case to that effect."

While CBS works to dismember the Constitution, NRA-ILA will
continue to work tirelessly to preserve the Second Amendment,
and the entire Bill of Rights for future generations. The Bill of
Rights, including the Second Amendment, and the NRA were
here long before CBS was founded, and we'll be around long
after they're gone!

PLEASE CALL CBS FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING
& ENCOURAGE PRO-SECOND AMENDMENT ACTIVISTS
TO DO SO AS WELL!

Posted: 1999-08-03



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[CTRL] Global Comparisons (fwd)

[William Hugh Tunstall]

 -Caveat Lector-

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:09:02 -0700
Subject: ESPFwd: Global Comparisons

The New York Times, September 27, 1998

KOFI ANNAN'S Astonishing Facts!

By BARBARA CROSSETTE

 Every year, the United Nations Human Development Report
looks for a new way  to measure the lives of people.
Putting aside faceless statistics like per  capita gross
domestic product or export-import figures, the report
burrows  into the facts about what children eat, who
goes to school, whether there  is clean water to drink,
how women share in the economy or who doesn't get
vaccinations against diseases that go on killing even
though they are  preventable. This year, the report
takes its first look at what people have  -- from simple
toilets to family cars -- and what proportion of the
world's  goods and services are consumed, comparatively,
by the rich and by the  poor. The pie is huge -- the
world's consumption bill is $24 trillion a  year -- but
some servings are very small indeed.

 THE HAVES -- The richest fifth of the world's people
consumes 86  percent of  all goods and services while
the poorest fifth consumes just 1.3 percent.  Indeed,
the richest fifth consumes 45 percent of all meat and
fish, 58  percent of all energy used and 84 percent of
all paper, has 74 percent of  all telephone lines and
owns 87 percent of  all vehicles.

 NATURAL RESOURCES -- Since 1970, the world's forests
have declined from 4.4  square miles per 1,000 people to
2.8 square miles per 1,000 people. In  addition, a
quarter of the world's fish stocks have been depleted
or  are in  danger of being depleted and another 44
percent are being fished at their  biological limit.

 THE GANGES -- The Ganges River symbolizes purification
to Hindus, who  believe drinking or bathing in its
waters will lead to salvation. But 29  cities, 70 towns
and countless villages deposit about 345 million
gallons  of raw sewage a day directly into the river.
Factories add 70 million  gallons of industrial waste
and farmers are responsible for another 6  million tons
of chemical fertilizer and 9,000 tons of pesticides.

 THE ULTRA RICH -- The three richest people in the world
have assets that  exceed the combined gross domestic
product of the 48 least developed  countries.

 AFRICA -- The average African household today consumes
20 percent less than  it did 25 years ago.

 THE SUPER RICH -- The world's 225 richest individuals,
of whom 60 are  Americans with total assets of $311
billion,  have a combined wealth of  over $1 trillion
--  equal to the annual income of the poorest 47
percent  of  the entire world's population.

 COSMETICS AND EDUCATION -- Americans spend $8 billion a
year on cosmetics  -- $2 billion more than the estimated
annual total needed to provide basic  education for
everyone in the world.

 THE HAVE NOTS -- Of the 4.4 billion people in
developing countries, nearly  three-fifths lack access
to safe sewers, a third have no access to clean  water,
a quarter do not have adequate housing and a fifth have
no  access to  modern health services of any kind.

 MEAT -- Americans each consume  an average of 260
pounds  of meat a year.  In Bangladesh, the average  is
six and a half pounds.

 THE FUTURE -- By 2050, 8 billion of the world's
projected 9.5 billion  people -- up from about 6 billion
today -- will be living in developing  countries.

 SMOKE -- Of the estimated 2.7 million annual deaths
from air pollution, 2.2  million are from indoor
pollution -- including smoke from dung and wood  burned
as fuel which is more harmful than tobacco smoke. 80
percent of the  victims are rural poor in developing
countries.

 WRISTWATCHES AND RADIOS -- Two thirds of India's 90
million lowest-income  households live below the poverty
line -- but more than 50 percent of these  impoverished
people own wristwatches, 41 percent own bicycles, 31
percent  own radios and 13 percent own fans.

 TELEPHONE LINES -- Sweden and the United States have
681 and 626 telephone  lines per 1,000 people,
respectively. Afghanistan, Cambodia, Chad and the
Democratic Republic of the Congo have only one line per
1,000 people.

 ICE CREAM AND WATER -- Europeans spend $11 billion a
year on ice cream --  $2 billion more than the estimated
annual total needed to provide clean  water and safe
sewers for the world's population.

 AIDS -- At the end of 1997 nearly 31 million people
were living with HIV,  up from 22.3 million the year
before. With 16,000 new infections a day --  90 percent
in developing countries -- it is now estimated that 40
million  people will be living with HIV in 2000.

 LANDMINES -- More than 110 million active landmines are
scattered in 68  countries, with an equal number
stockpiled around the world. Every month  more than
2,000 people are killed or maimed by mine explosions.

 PET FOOD AND HEALTH -- Americans and Europeans spend
$17 billion a year on  pet food -- $4 billion more than
the estimated annual additional total  needed to

Re: [CTRL] FW: IPS Wire story Food First-INDONESIA: Not Your 'Traditional' Famine

[Andrew Hennessey]

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enter Monsanto with Freebie Terminator Seeds and a water and irrigation
development programme .

Andrew Hennessey

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[CTRL] Subliminal mind-altering technology - Gulf war

[Nicola Molloy]

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This article has info about the mind control techniques used in the Gulf
War in Operation Desert Storm.
Nicky

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[CTRL] quitting

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Sorry guys, hate ta bother ya, but hotmail is getting on my butt for getting
too much mail a day and not deletin it all...i'd love to chitter chatter
and if you all know any e-mail companies that allow unlimited mail lemme
know, but other than that, i need to know how to quit this list.  I'll
likely join again, so be ready to see my ugly face again, k?

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[CTRL] FW: IPS Wire story Food First-INDONESIA: Not Your 'Traditional' Famine

[Dave]

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forwarded..

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Anuradha Mittal
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 12:52 PM
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Subject: IPS Wire story Food First-INDONESIA: Not Your 'Traditional' Famine

Copyright 1999, Inter Press Service
FOOD-INDONESIA: Not Your 'Traditional' Famine

WASHINGTON, Aug 2 (IPS) - Indonesia became the world's largest food aid
recipient last year in a "manufactured crisis" sparked by economic collapse
but exacerbated by misguided development policies, says a new report.

Food aid to the world's fourth most-populous nation should be severely
reduced "and redirected to truly starving countries . . . such as North
Korea," according to the South East Asia Food Security and Fair Trade
Council, a coalition of activist groups in the Asian region and the United
States.

The group, which sent an international team of aid and agricultural
experts to Indonesia earlier this year, concluded that Indonesia needs "not
food aid but economic and agricultural reforms of a fundamental kind." This
would create the "jobs and income that will enable them to surmount not
only hunger, but poverty," the report said.

"Indonesia is not suffering a critical food shortage in the traditional
sense," said Anuradha Mittal, report co-author and policy director at the
Oakland-based Institute for Food and Development Policy, also known
as Food First.

"Abundant food is available for those who can afford it, but few can due
to the economic collapse," Mittal said. "Yet the image of a food shortage
that can only be remedied with food aid continues to dominate."

The report, "Manufacturing a Crisis: The Politics of Food Aid in
Indonesia", accused the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and
World Food Program (WFP) of stoking donor alarm over Indonesia's food
situation by issuing "grossly mistaken" assessments of the country's
1998-99 rice shortfall.

The agencies, however, said they stood behind their figures.

Foreign grain began to pour into Indonesian warehouses on the strength of
numbers distilled by the FAO and WFP from Indonesian government data in a
process that activists characterized as doomed to repeat the failures of
earlier food-aid programs.

"Time and again we have found [food aid] to be a self-serving act on the
part of donor countries, in the guise of charity," said Peter Rosset,
co-author of the 1998 book "World Hunger: Twelve Myths". "Local food
production is undercut in recipient countries, as farmers cannot compete
with free imports and have to abandon the land," he said.

The report charged the United States, Canada, Australia and other donors
with seeking to open long-term markets for their surplus wheat and rice. It
assailed Japan for dumping excess rice stocks in the form of a "soft loan"
payable in kind within the next 40 years.

When it became clear that the influx of cheap food was not needed in much
of the countryside, aid officials diverted the flow to Indonesia's slums
"to pacify a restive urban population" and boost the ruling Golkar party's
standing in June's parliamentary elections, the report added.

The report drew fire from the FAO and WFP as being "a bit confused" and
"biased." Aid officials, in letters to the report's writers, bristled at
the accusation of complicity in government efforts to contain political
dissent and complained that they had been misquoted in the document. No
less controversial was the report's assertion that Indonesia's was "not so
much an emergency food crisis but a generalized crisis of development."

Viewed in the short term, the crisis stemmed from the massive flight of
foreign capital that was at the center of the Asian financial crisis of
1997-98. But the long-term culprits, according to the report, included an
"industry-first" development strategy and a "Green Revolution"
(chemically-intensive monoculture farming) approach to food
self-sufficiency.

Under the tutelage of international financial institutions, Indonesia had
long sought to harness local capital and attract foreign investors to
industrialize the country. Among other things, this meant manipulating
exchange and interest rates.

These measures "drew resources from agriculture to industry because
agricultural projects took a long time to yield a decent rate of return,
whereas urban investments, such as in real estate, yielded profits with a
quick turn-around time," the report said.

Furthermore, "a policy of providing cheap food was clearly designed to
subsidize industry by keeping the price of wage goods low for the urban
working class. However, this decreased the profitability of agriculture,"
contributing to a downward spiral of investment and productivity in the
country's farms.

Something had to be done, so Indonesia embraced the "Green Revolution"
and, in 1984, was deemed by the FAO to have achieved food self-sufficiency.

[CTRL] Tenth Conference on Computers Freedom and Privacy

[Dave]

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[Circulate until October 15, 1999]

The Tenth Conference on Computers Freedom and Privacy
CFP2000: CHALLENGING THE ASSUMPTIONS
http://www.cfp2000.org

The Westin Harbour Castle Hotel
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
April 4-7, 2000


CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

The Program Committee of the Tenth Conference on Computers, Freedom,
and Privacy (CFP2000) is seeking proposals for conference sessions and
speakers.

For the past decade, CFP has played a major role in the public debate
on the future of privacy and freedom in the online world.  The CFP
audience is as diverse as the Net itself, with attendees not only from
government, business, education, and non-profits, but also from the
community of computer professionals, hackers, crackers and engineers
who work the code of cyberspace.  The themes have been broad and
forward-looking. CFP explores what will be. It is the place where the
future is mapped.

The theme of the tenth CFP conference is 'Challenging the
Assumptions'.  After a decade of CFP conferences, it's time to examine
what we have learned. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" has
become a cliche, but we've learned that unless we take measures to
protect our identities, people can and do identify us on the Internet.
We have talked about the role of government in cyberspace, and some
have even suggested that the Net needs no government. But now that
increasing numbers of people around the world are relying on the
Internet not just as a marketplace of ideas, but the market where they
conduct their daily business, the issue of governance has come to the
forefront. And even where no rules have been imposed by governments,
some argue that standards setters and technology implementers have
imposed de facto rules. At CFP2000 we want to re-examine the
assumptions we have been making and consider which ones still make
sense as we move forward.

Proposals are welcomed on all aspects of computers, freedom, and
privacy. We strongly encourage proposals that challenge the future,
tackle the hard questions, look at old issues in new ways, articulate
and analyze key assumptions, and present complex issues in all their
complexity.

We are seeking proposals for tutorials, plenary sessions, workshops,
and birds-of-a-feather sessions. We are also seeking suggestions for
speakers and topics. Sessions should present a wide range of thinking
on a topic by including speakers from different viewpoints.  Complete
submission instructions appear on the CFP2000 web site at
http://www.cfp2000.org/submissions/.  All submissions must be received
by October 15, 1999.  The CFP2000 Program Committee will notify
submitters of the status of their proposals by December 3.

**

Workshop on Freedom and Privacy by Design

On the first day of CFP2000 we will hold a workshop that explores
using -technology- to bring about strong protections of civil
liberties which are guaranteed by the technology itself---in short, to
get hackers, system architects, and implementors strongly involved in
CFP and its goals.  Our exploration of technology includes (a)
implemented, fielded systems, and (b) what principles and
architectures should be developed, including which open problems must
be solved, to implement and field novel systems that can be inherently
protective of civil liberties.

We aim to bring together implementors and those who have studied the
social issues of freedom and privacy in one room to generate ideas for
systems that we should field, and implementation strategies for
fielding them.

If you would like to participate, you must submit a short paper or
extended abstract on some issue related to the workshop by November
12. Complete submission instructions are available at
http://www.cfp2000.org/workshop/

**

CFP Student Competition

Full time college or graduate students may compete for financial
support to attend the conference and for cash prizes. Three $500 cash
prizes will be awarded for the best paper, the best Web presentation,
and the submission that best makes use of the vast trove of papers,
audio, and video materials from the past ten years of Computers,
Freedom, and Privacy conferences. Free CFP conference registrations
and travel scholarships will be awarded to the top winners as well as
for several honorable mentions. For full submission information, see
http://www.cfp2000.org/students/.

**

CFP2000 PROGRAM COMMITTEE

Chair: Lorrie Cranor, AT&T Labs-Research

Ann Cavoukian, Information and Privacy Commissioner, Ontario, Canada
Roger Clarke, The Australian National University
Karen Coyle, California Digital Library
Chuck Cranor, AT&T Labs-Research
Lenny Foner, MIT Media Lab
Wendy Grossman, Freelance writer and author of net.wars
Bruce R. Koball, Technical Consultant
Susan Landau, Sun Microsystems
Shabbir Safdar, Mindshare Internet Campaigns
Pam Samuelson, University of California Berkeley
Ari Schwartz, 

[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 5

[William Shannon]

UNDERNEWS
Sam Smith
August 5, 1999
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Because of its quantity, TPR's mail is not always answered, but it is always
read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of
the more interesting messages at http://prorev.com/letters.htm

--

WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS UP

Those working for Talk Magazine have to sign confidentiality agreements
promising not to talk.

LOOSE CHANGE
Left Business Observer

Tracking studies, which follow people as they leave welfare, have found that
40-70% of all former welfare recipients are working when surveyed -- at an
average earnings between $10,000 and $14,000, not impressive next to a
poverty line of $13,133 for a family of three 

A preliminary study by Wendell Primus of the Center for Budget and Policy
Priorities found that the incomes of the poorest single-mother families
declined between 1993 and 1997 despite and expanding economy  The
numbers of grocery handouts and soup kitchen meals have risen across the
country. In New York state, they arose astronomically, from 13,5 million to
slight more than 21 million between 1987 and 1995 

Whatever problem welfare was supposed to solve, it's not solving the poverty
problem. It's saving governments some money, though.

LEFT BUSINESS OBSERVER http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html

STARBUCKS KILLINGS

A federal grand jury has indicted Carl Derek Cooper on racketeering, robbery
and murder charges -- including the triple slaying at the Georgetown
Starbucks. The indictment charges Cooper as heading a gang that specialized
in robberies in Maryland and DC that occurred near closing time. In the
Starbucks case ten shots were fired at three employees who were locking up
the shop. Five of the shots hit Caitrin Mahoney. Due to Mahoney having been
a White House intern and Monica Lewinsky's reported comment to Linda Tripp
that she didn't want to end up like her, the case has attracted considerable
attention. Because of anomalies in the incident, TPR has listed it as one of
the curious deaths that have occurred to those involved with the Clinton
machine. It will continue to be listed pending developments in the trial.

The federal indictment names no co-conspirators in any of the incidents. US
Attorney Wilma Lewis said that Cooper worked with someone else in planning
the Starbucks robbery but carried it out alone. She also stated that "If Mr.
Cooper is convicted of any three of the federal charges relating to the
Starbucks murders . . . [he] could face the death penalty. That decision
will be made later on by the attorney general."  DC does not have a death
penalty.

Cooper allegedly confessed to the killings during a 54-hour interrogation.
His defense attorney, Steven Kiersh, questions the interrogation and the
lack of physical evidence linking Cooper to the Starbucks shop. Cooper plans
to plead not guilty.

LAND OF THE FREE

The New Jersey Supreme Court has ruled that the Boy Scouts may not bar
homosexuals, citing state anti-discrimination law. This is the first such
ruling by a high state court.

HILLARY WATCH

The latest Zogby poll, taken after news of the HRC-Talk Magazine interview,
finds CLinton tied with Rudolph Giuliani in the race for Senate. TPR
considers this race remains far too close to call.

MORNING LINE http://www.prorev.com/amline.htm

DEBORAH ORIN, NEW YORK POST: When Hillary Clinton shows up looking demure
and pretty in a pinkish pastel, you know she's in full damage-control mode
and her spin doctors are running wild. So no wonder she wore pale peach
yesterday to
try to quell the flap over her blame-Grandma excuse for Sexgate, just as she
wore pink to the 1994 press conference where she insisted her $1,000-to-
$100,000 cattle-futures bonanza was perfectly legit.

OTHER TALK

In view of the infamous HRC-Talk interview, the new book, "Bill and Hillary,
The Marriage," by Christopher Anderson makes some interesting observations
and assertions, to wit:

-- HRC was "deeply in love" with Vince Foster for the 20 years before he
died.

-- WJC had affairs that numbered in the hundreds.

-- Jim McDougal: "Everyone knew about Hillary and Vince. Bill was not really
in a position to object, now was he?"

-- Former State Trooper and Clinton confidante LD Brown: "Hillary and Vince
were 

[CTRL] THAAD Hit may Portend Acceleration Into EMD.

[William Shannon]

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THAAD Hit May Portend Acceleration into Emd by Frank Wolfe


Defense Daily
03-AUG-99

Aug. 03, 1999 (DEFENSE DAILY, Vol. 203, No. 23 via COMTEX) -- Yesterday's
successful exo-atmospheric intercept of a Hera target by the Army's Theater
High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile may accelerate the missile's
entrance into Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD).

The program is now in program definition and risk reduction to prove the
intended "hit to kill" technology. Lockheed Martin [LMT] is the THAAD prime
contractor.

Currently, THAAD must achieve three intercepts before a decision is made on
EMD.

Asked yesterday whether THAAD's two intercepts will cause the Pentagon to
re-evaluate its "leader-follower" strategy for THAAD and Navy Theater Wide
(NTW), Air Force Lt. Gen. Ronald Kadish, director of the Ballistic Missile
Defense Organization (BMDO), replied, "We are always rethinking that
strategy."

"Our architecture requires that we have both a maritime component and a
ground based component and they contribute different things to the
warfighting mix," he said. "We'd like to sustain that as much as we can. But
the technological challenges here are difficult. What we want to do is move
programs that are able to perform as quickly as possible into development."

Thomas Corcoran, president and chief operating officer of Lockheed Martin
Space & Strategic Missiles sector, said yesterday's THAAD intercept was a
critical accomplishment in moving toward EMD and fielding THAAD.

Asked whether the intercept means that THAAD can go into EMD before another
intercept is achieved, Corcoran replied, "We're going to be working with our
customer on that point."

"If we're not there, we're very close to being able to go into EMD," he said,
given THAAD's two successful intercepts and the near miss of a third THAAD
missile in a recent test.

"Today's probably one of the watershed events in the technological history of
our country because for the second time we basically hit a bullet with a
bullet--in outer space," Kadish told reporters at a Pentagon press conference
yesterday. "It was a very challenging test."

"We were able to discriminate a 13-foot-long reentry vehicle and hit it. It
was a complex series of interactions that allowed this to happen, " he said.

About 500 seconds after the Hera target was launched yesterday morning at
White Sands Missile Range, N.M., THAAD intercepted it more than 50 miles
above the earth. The target "flew a conventional ballistic trajectory with a
range of 127 miles and an apogee of 282 kilometers," Army Space and Missile
Defense Command said yesterday in a statement. "Preliminary data indicates
all objectives were achieved."

Both Kadish and Army Lt. Gen. Paul Kern, the military deputy to the Army's
acquisition chief, said the system's radar, battle management, missile and
operators worked seamlessly in yesterday's test.

Kern said that THAAD's "direct, clean hit" yesterday was made especially
challenging because the re-entry vehicle was cold due to the exo-atmospheric
temperatures.


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Re: [CTRL] Question

[Bill Kingsbury]

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At 12:07 PM 8-5-1999 -0600, Hilary wrote:
>
>Does anyone have a list of the people who pleaded the 5th or left
>the country during the Chinagate investigation?


 CLAIMING THE 5TH OR REFUSING TO ANSWER :

 http://Alamo-Girl.com/0314.htm

 from:

 Downside Legacy at Two Degrees of President Clinton -- 7/28/99

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[CTRL] Emerging Scandal in Vaccine Mandates

[Bill Richer]

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 Emerging Scandal in Vaccine Mandates

July 28, 1999
A scandal in mandatory mass vaccinations of infants is beginning to surface.
Vaccine-caused injuries have just forced the Clinton bureaucrats to make four
sensational announcements that bugle temporary retreat from their plans to
force all American children to submit to government-dictated medical
treatment.

On July 15, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the American Academy of
Pediatrics (AAP) halted the use of the oral rotavirus vaccine, which is given
to infants to prevent one of the major causes of diarrhea, after reports that
the vaccine caused a bowel obstruction in some infants that required surgery
to repair.

The bowel obstruction, called intussusception, results when one portion of
the bowel slides inward, like a telescope, into another part of the bowel and
causes blockage. A previously healthy infant suddenly screams in paroxysms of
pain.

In its initial trial, the rotavirus vaccine appeared to cause intussusception
at 30 times the average rate, but the government pretended that those
injuries were insignificant. Instead of testing further, the CDC and the
vaccine manufacturer subjected babies to more than a million doses of this
unnecessary, expensive, and inadequately tested vaccine.

While the risk of intussusception may have been mentioned on the package
insert, it was not on the vaccine information statement given to parents. The
arbitrariness of government vaccine mandates is shown by the fact that, for
the previous year, CDC was demanding that the vaccine be given to all
infants, and now suddenly a CDC spokesman is saying, "No one should now be
giving rotavirus vaccine to anyone."

The second sensational vaccine announcement came on July 9, when the U.S.
Public Health Service (PHS) and the AAP issued a joint statement cancelling
their previous recommendation to inject all newborns while they are still in
the hospital with the hepatitis B vaccine. PHS and AAP now recommend that
vaccination of newborns be limited to those who are at risk of getting
hepatitis B from their infected mothers.

Their remarkable backtracking from the universal mandate for newborns must
have resulted from the widespread publicity given to the many cases of
vaccine damage causing lifetime injury or death reported on ABC's 20/20 and
at the May 18 hearing conducted by the U.S. House Subcommittee on Criminal
Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources. PHS and AAP continue to recommend
the hepatitis B vaccine for infants at 2 to 6 months of age, even though few
of them are at risk.

Meanwhile, 42 states require the hepatitis B vaccine for schoolchildren,
although teachers and health care workers are not required to receive it. The
legislator who sponsored the hepatitis B mandate in Ohio admitted that he did
so at the request of a vaccine manufacturer lobbyist, while Governor
Christine Whitman is trying to impose a New Jersey requirement
administratively without legislation.

In another announcement the same day, PHS-AAP issued a joint statement that
revealed the risk to children of vaccines containing mercury and called on
the FDA to "assess the risk of all mercury-containing food and drugs." A
mercury product called thimerosal is used as a preservative in many vaccines,
even though the FDA last year banned its use in over-the-counter products for
safety reasons.

Under the current CDC schedule, most infants receive a total of 15 doses of
mercury-containing vaccines by the time they are six months old, many given
simultaneously. The fact that the FDA has prohibited the use of thimerosal
for most products, but continues to allow its use for vaccines, sounds like
political corruption in the vaccine approval process.

The National Vaccine Information Center has been criticizing the use of
mercury in vaccines for many years. Contact lens solution bottles routinely
advertise that they contain "no thimerosal," yet any damage to adults from
contact lens solutions must be minuscule compared to the same product
ingested or injected into infants.

The fourth announcement came on June 17, when government officials voted to
withdraw their recommendation for the use of the live poliovirus vaccine, and
to recommend the "exclusive" use of the inactivated poliovirus vaccine. Since
1979, the only polio cases in the United States have been caused by the live
vaccine because, taken by mouth, it travels through the child's body and can
cause polio in a parent changing the diaper.

The unjustified delay in converting to the safer polio vaccine is due to
mandatory vaccination laws that require the public to use a certain product.
The government still demands that babies be given four doses of polio
vaccine, even though, according to Surgeon General David Satcher, M.D., "The
Western Hemisphere was certified by the World Health Organization (WHO) as
polio free in 1994, and no case of polio has been reported in this region
since 1991."

We are long overdue for a Con

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 4

[William Shannon]

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In a message dated 8/5/99 2:20:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< It's called knuckling to Israel, and we do it all the time.  Remember that
 odd posting a short time ago in which they reported that a rabbi had ruled
 against giving medical attention to non-Jews on the Sabbath, because although
 the life of a Gentile had value, the value of the Sabbath is more important.
 Oh I'm sure the members of the Jewish groups do not live in Israel, but you
 can bet they hold dual citizenship and vote in Israeli elections.  Their
 interests are not in this country's traditions.  Their interests are in
 persecuting Moslems.  Prudy >>



Prudy,
You are so right! You must be a cool lady, I like ya'!


Anti-ZIONIST, and proud of it!
Bill.

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[CTRL] Heritage

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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>  #253
>
> July 1999
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Americans Losing Control of U.S. Treasures to United Nations
>
>
>
> by Elizabeth McGeehan
>
>
>
>
> What do the Statue of Liberty, Independence Hall, Jefferson's
> Monticello and Yellowstone National Park have in common? Each of
> these national treasures is regulated according to the dictates
> of foreign bureaucrats rather than according to the will of the
> American people.
>
> That's because each of these sites has been designated as a
> United Nations (U.N.) World Heritage Site. A U.N. World Heritage
> Site is an internationally protected landmark of cultural,
> historical or natural significance that the national government
> promises the U.N. it will protect.1 With the signing of the 1972
> World Heritage Treaty, which established the U.N. World Heritage
> Sites, the United States legally obligated itself to manage our
> historic national landmarks in compliance with U.N., not U.S.,
> standards.2 The U.S. has also allowed vast amounts of land to
> become U.N.-designated Biosphere Reserves. A Biosphere Reserve is
> an area that is set aside specifically for conservation and
> scientific study which, like a World Heritage Site, the United
> States promises to manage in accordance with U.N. standards.
>
> Currently, the United States has 20 World Heritage Sites and 47
> Biosphere Reserves encompassing 51 million acres - an area nearly
> the size of Colorado.3 The U.S. is required to regularly report
> to the U.N. on the status of its World Heritage Sites,
> specifically its "preservation and protection techniques and its
> efforts to encourage public awareness about cultural and national
> heritage."4
>
> What is especially disturbing about U.N. World Heritage Site and
> Biosphere Reserve designations are that they can be made by the
> executive branch unilaterally without congressional approval.
> Under the terms of the World Heritage Treaty, the President
> doesn't need to consult anyone before placing U.S. territory
> under the thumb of the U.N.
>
> While World Heritage Sites, Biosphere Reserves and other U.N.
> designations don't give the U.N. formal authority to regulate
> American land, Clinton Administration officials take these
> designations into account when making land-use decisions. The
> Administration has used such designations as an excuse to impose
> new regulations that blatantly restrict the rights of companies
> and private citizens. A good case in point is the 1995
> controversy that erupted over Yellowstone National Park, where
> the Clinton Administration forced a mining company to abandon a
> legal mine development project near the park, but on mostly
> private land. At the request of environmental groups, the Clinton
> Administration persuaded the U.N. to list Yellowstone as a "World
> Heritage Site in Danger."5 This special designation gave the
> Administration an excuse to force the mining company to abandon
> the project because it allegedly posed a threat to the park.
>
> Further from home, near Kakadu Park in Australia, the same
> scenario is being played out. The U.N. World Heritage Committee
> independently commissioned a study of a mine near the park that
> concluded the mine would threaten the park's environment. The
> Committee issued a powerful warning that, unless the Australian
> government could rebut the findings, the U.N. would list the site
> as "in danger."6 The Australian government objects to the U.N.'s
> demands that it stop the project but it may succumb to the
> pressure before the year is out.
>
> It's ironic that the Clinton Administration is insisting that the
> U.S. adhere to U.N. standards in protecting our national
> landmarks, given the U.S. relationship with the primary body
> responsible for administering World Heritage Site programs. For
> the past several decades, the United States has refused to
> contribute to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and
> Cultural Organization (UNESCO), the institutional sponsor of the
> World Heritage Committee, because the agency has been financially
> mismanaged and mired in political controversy.7 Yet the
> Administration believes this same UNESCO is qualified to judge
> our ability to protect our most prized national treasures.
>
> Congress has become so concerned over the U.N.'s encroachment on
> national sovereignty that the U.S. House of Representatives just
> approved a bill that would help Americans reassert their right to
> determine how U.S. national territory is managed. Called the
> American Land Sovereignty Protection Act, the legislation would
> require the executive branch to seek congressional approval
> before designating any site on American soil as either a World
> Heritage Site or Biosphere Reserve. The bill has yet to be acted
> on in the Senate.
>
> As welcome as the American Land Sovereignty Protection Act is,
> one wonders why the legislation is necessary to protect
> Congress's authority over U.S. land in the first place. Art

[CTRL] Farmers: Beyond The Drought

[Alamaine]

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Institute for Public Accuracy
915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045
(202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___

Thursday, August 5, 1999

FARMERS: BEYOND THE DROUGHT

These analysts are available to talk about the drought and other issues
facing farmers:

KATHY OZER, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.nffc.net
Executive director of the National Family Farm Coalition, Ozer testified
before the Senate today. She said: "We face a deepening economic disaster
due to failed domestic and international policy that is compounded by
weather conditions."

JOHN ZIPPERT, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.farmworkers.org
Director of program operations at the Federation of Southern Cooperatives,
which works with small (mostly African American) farmers, Zippert said:
"What's far more serious than the drought for our farmers is the price of
agricultural commodities. They're getting 3 or 4 cents a pound for
watermelon... The prices that farmers are receiving are the same as 50 years
ago... The farmers are not getting the full value of these products, a
series of middlemen are. You have the food processors and the agribusiness
corporations, which are achieving greater concentration and more buying
power. Agriculture policy has subsidized them -- and use of fertilizers,
pesticides and gasoline -- rather than sustainable agriculture. That's bad
for the environment and it's bad for rural communities."

BILL VORLEY, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.iatp.org
Director of the Food and Agriculture program at the Institute for
Agriculture and Trade Policy, Vorley said: "The government is about to throw
between $7 billion and $11 billion at U.S. agriculture because of the crisis
of low prices. But this won't address underlying issues... There is a
near-record amount of subsidies in farming, but...the farmer's share of the
food dollar keeps shrinking and more is retained by processors, retailers
and seed sellers. Farmers are also getting squeezed by having bought
genetically engineered seeds from Monsanto and others that the Europeans are
refusing to buy."

SALLY HERRIN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.nfu.org
Education and communications director of the Nebraska Farmers Union, Herrin
said: "Current farm policy has created exactly what the grain trade wants --
and pays for with a few million dollars in campaign contributions each
election cycle -- lots of production and prices in freefall. And eventually,
instead of two million farmers (down from six million in 1950), ConAgra and
Cargill and Archer Daniels Midland hope to have just 55,000 farmers to deal
with, locked into contracts with biopatents and leveraged to the bills of
their seedcaps."

SCOTTY JOHNSON, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rural outreach coordinator for GREEN (GrassRoots Environmental
Effectiveness Network), Johnson said: "Much of farm policy is being advanced
for the benefit of agribusiness, chemical, biotech, oil and insurance
companies which are all connected with commodities marketers. The American
Farm Bureau Federation, the nation's most powerful farm lobby, advances
policies that benefit these corporate interests, not average farmers."

  For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167

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Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

[Andrew Hennessey]

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>Andrew's response also belies the common misperception that rape has to
>do with sex, when in reality it deals with power and coercion...

>June ;-)

Actually, I'm just a naive marginalised victim of a post masculine society
dominated by New Age women who beat on sensitive men because they have not
the courage to tackle the real brutes that made them that way.

Its a common theme now done to death - the suffrage of women - the absolute
backlash is as you explicitly suggest,  the inevitable psychological
castration of the sensitive victim male - its a rather brutish philosophy
in itself this 'Womanism' -
Personally I don't think that the womens movement is quite the Goddesses
gift to the planet that they think it is - [but thats just my opinion] -
for they have gone about marginalising the sensitive man in the same
brutish and masculine way that brutish men marginalised women.

There is plenty cultural evidence to back this up - eg. a recent Jeans
advert has a naked male lying prone with his Jeans down and a women with
her stilleto poised above the guys anus.

Women are being seduced by the 'dark side of the forceful masculine power
trip'

I don't think Margaret Thatcher quite appreciates the immense role model
she is for 21st century womanhood  mind you, I'm just one of those
'sensitive guys'  [imo]

Andrew.

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[CTRL] (Fwd) Candidate summary figures and rankings available...

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---
Date sent:  05 Aug 99 1147 PST
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Subject:Candidate summary figures and rankings available...
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*
FECInfo - Public Disclosure, Inc
www.tray.com
*

The latest 1999 Federal candidate summary figures are now on-
line at
www.tray.com/fecinfo/_states.htm.  This page leads to easy to
use state
charts listing all candidates and their activity.  Check out
your state.

National rankings by total receipts, total disbursements, cash-
on-hand at
the beginning of the cycle, current cash-on-hand, contributions from the
candidate, etc. are available at www.tray.com/fecinfo/_webl.htm.  See
where your candidates rank in comparison to others.

These figures will be updated periodically as data is made available from
the FEC.


Tony Raymond
Kent Cooper

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[CTRL] Hale-Bopp can be very dangerous...

[Steve Wingate]

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(BURE OBSERVATORY ACCIDENT. This 'accident' happened not long
after the cable-car had been 'inspected'. I wonder who the inspectors were,
CIA, NSA, ??? --SW)

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [M-TRAC - MSAA] your tax dollars at work
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Jeff Glickman wrote:

> You are saying that Hale-Bopp,
> in fact, is (was) two bodies? Well, it looked like it to me in several
> images. Short memory on my part: wasn't there some degree of controversy
> over that issue? How - if at all - was it eventually clarified? - Jeff

Jeff, since the cable-car was crashed on July 1st 1999 and killed 20
people, we know that research about Hale Bopp can be very dangerous...

http://iram.fr/HB/comet.html

http://iram.fr/accident-a.html


--
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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany]

[Robert Tatman]

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Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Howdy,
> Yes, indeedy — I sure wasn't there and you were. So . . . either his memory
> or notes were wrong or that was when he heard the news. I don't know. A
> person of his name was writing books recently. Whether that is this person
> and he is still with us, and could tell us, again I have no idea.
>
> I am just kinda of a history nut and I found this particular book
> interesting. One because it is printed in Poland, in lieu of royalities
from
> a popular polish edition.  So, it wasn't published here mainstream. There
do
> not seem to be any copies out in used-bookland on the internet, so there
> aren't alot of copies out-there. Seemed interesting and as I am reading
> several books, I thought I would share this, whilst creating searchable
> databses.
>
> And interesting  intelligence milieu and from an overview seems to delve
into
> interesting areas. So we shall see. . .
>
> On to better understandings . . . and to the utmosts of futures!
>
> Om
> K
>
> In a message dated 8/4/99 5:59:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >k
> >
> >One minor point...he says word of the end of the war came before
"evening
> >chow".
> >
> >
> >His memory is off.  I took the cease fire radio message for our little
unit
> >and it was
> >6AM...in the early morning.
> >
> >T

FWIW, the armistice officially ending hostilities in Europe took effect at
11:01 pm, May 8, 1945.

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany]

[Robert Tatman]

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Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> an excerpt from:
> BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany
> Arthur D. Rahn
> Former Chief Editor of Intelligence
> Office of the Director of Information Control
> Office of Military Government, Germany
> No Date - Printed in Poland
> out-of-print

In 1945, following V-E Day, my father was offered a promotion to major in the
U.S. Army if he would join the military government in Austria. He declined,
mostly because he was homesick; but I can't help thinking that he had sensed
the problems that were going to crop up. For all that Pynchon's *Gravity's
Rainbow* is "really" about America in the 1960's and 1970's, its picture of
Occupied Germany is still remarkably accurate... Germany from 1945 to 1947,
before the creation of the new Federal Republic, was one of those times and
places where everything was in flux, all rules were in abeyance, and events
could have gone in any direction at all.

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] CBS Commits Fraud Against Americans and Constitution

[Ronald L. Wilson.]

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In a message dated 8/5/99 2:43:32 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  CBS Commits Fraud Against Americans and Constitution

   NRA urges citizens to call and give CBS a "Reality Check"
   on individual right of law-abiding Americans to own firearms.

   (WASHINGTON) -- Immediately after last night's airing of CBS Evening
   News' blatantly biased "Reality Check" segment, which ignored recent
   scholarly research and falsely claimed that the Second Amendment is not
   an individual right, the National Rifle Association launched a campaign
   to provide CBS News with its own reality check.

   "Clearly, the reality of CBS is not in step with the reality of the view
   of the vast majority of law-abiding Americans, nor in line with the view
   of most constitutional scholars. The national media elite at CBS
   wouldn't know reality if it stepped in front of Dan Rather's limousine,"
   said James J. Baker, executive director of NRA's Institute for
   Legislative Action.

   "This alleged news network completely ignored a mountain of recent
   research from constitutional scholars who agree that the Second
   Amendment refers to an individual right, just as the entire Bill of
   Rights refers to individual rights."

   Baker said he was urging NRA members and concerned citizens to call CBS
   News and local CBS affiliates to express their outrage that last night's
   so-called "news" report would ignore the bulk of recent scholarly
   research. "Every American, every journalist, who values truth, accuracy
   and balanced reporting should call and express their outrage at CBS'
   effort to disguise their editorial bias as news," Baker said. "It is
   little wonder that their ratings continue to diminish."

   Baker noted several key failures on the part of CBS:

   ** CBS FAILED to cite the 1990 Supreme Court reference to the Second
   Amendment in U.S. v. Verdugo-Urquidez that stated, "`the people´
   protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second
   Amendments ... refers to a class of persons who are part of the national
   community." Each of these rights are individual.

   ** CBS FAILED to report this year's federal court ruling from the
   Northern District of Texas, U.S. v. Emerson, in which the federal judge
   overturned a federal gun law on Second Amendment grounds and argued,
   "The rights of the Second Amendment should be as zealously guarded as
   the other individual liberties enshrined in the bill of rights."

   ** CBS FAILED to report that, in the last decade, scholars from across
   the political spectrum have concluded that the Second Amendment, from
   any method of analysis, protects an individual right, and that this view
   is now commonly referred to as the "Standard Model" (Glenn Harlan
   Reynolds, 1995).

   ** CBS FAILED to note that the nation's leading constitutional scholars
   such as Lawrence Tribe (Harvard), Akil Reed Amar (Yale), William Van
   Alstyne (Duke), and Sanford Levinson (Texas) ascribe to the concept of
   the individual Second Amendment right as the "Standard Model."

   ** CBS FAILED to report the conclusion of Professor Glenn Harlan
   Reynolds, of the University of Tennessee, that scholars adhering to an
   individual rights interpretation, "... dominate the academic literature
   on the Second Amendment almost completely," and that this view is "...
   the mainstream scholarly interpretation."

   "The bottom line is that CBS failed as a news organization last night,"
   Baker said.

   "They even completely ignored statements by a Supreme Court Justice,
   Clarence Thomas, in clear and full support the Second Amendment as an
   individual right and in anticipation of ruling on a future case to that
   effect."

   Baker said the NRA, the nation's oldest grassroots civil rights
   organization, would continue its work to preserve the Second Amendment,
   and the entire Bill of Rights, for future generations. "The Bill of
   Rights, including the Second Amendment, and the NRA were here long
   before CBS was founded and, I suspect, will remain long after they're
   gone," Baker said. "And that bodes well for future generations of
   freedom-loving Americans."

  >>
My take has long been that CBS (and the other networks) are CFR propaganda
machines distributing biased information to suit their purpose. Check out
this web site.  http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/emfed.html
Ron Wilson

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[CTRL] Sexual Coercion

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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Sno0wl wrote:
>
>> Altho I've heard some guys claim they had sex with females who
>> 'pressured' them, because the guys said they felt that if they didn't,
>> their 'manhood' would be questioned
>
>Part of the old, standard college line. Seems to me I remember that if
>you weren't willing or showed reluctance, the first thing the guy said
>was that you were probably were--"frigid."
>Same old same old.

No, what I'm referring to is the exact oppositethe female is more
than willing and initiates foreplay, while the male claims to feel
pressured to 'go along' with it because it's 'expected', and if they
don't they'll be accused of being "mama's boys' or gay...

So in this case, it is the women accusing the men of 'frigidity'


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Fw: Mena Drug Drop Deaths

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When will you stop taking Larry Nichols seriously? The man is a hustler,
deadbeat, charlatan and fraud. His allegiances go to the highest bidder.

I met him when he was trying to peddle the "real inside" story of the
Contras. Only problem was he seemed to miss the cocaine angle. His "real"
story was some half assed video he allegedly shot in Nicaragua of a Russian
made heliocopter. Wow.

If this failed country-western singer can metamorphize into a conspiracy
guru, Bob Barr may be in the running for Pope.

Nichols was only employable as a petty bureacrat in the Highway Department.
In Arkansas this is the employer of last resort for slow nephews and
cousins.  Gov. Clinton and the Arkansas Development Finance Authority head
Wooten Epps caught him in his petty scams and canned him. Good for them.

I imagine Nichols would champion any cause for the right price. That he has
emerged as a credible spokesman for the Clinton bashers depricates the
entire right wing.

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Re: [CTRL] Where Are The Internment Camps?

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One guess would be McGuire AFB in New Jersey, where the Kosovar
refugees were housed.
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[CTRL] Report: Los Alamos Probe 'Flawed' (fwd)

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Report: Los Alamos Probe 'Flawed'

By H. JOSEF HEBERT Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI's espionage case against a Los Alamos
weapons scientist was ``flawed from the outset'' because
authorities identified a number of other suspects, but failed to
investigate them, a congressional report revealed today.

The report also disclosed for the first time that in a polygraph
test in February when the scientist, Wen Ho Lee, was asked if he
had passed nuclear secrets ``to any unauthorized person,'' he
failed the test.

The report by the leaders of the Senate Governmental Affairs
Committee outlined a string of missteps, communications lapses
and misunderstandings over three years that prevented the FBI
from establishing a strong case against the Taiwan-born
scientist.

The findings summarized information gathered during two
closed-door hearings the committee held on the federal
investigation into Lee. He was fired from his top-secret job last
March after being the primary suspect since 1996 in the alleged
theft by China of secrets involving the sophisticated W-88
nuclear warhead in the 1980s.

Lee has not been charged with a crime, although a federal grand
jury was hearing evidence in the ongoing case. In his only public
comments, Lee in a television interview last Sunday categorically
denied providing nuclear secrets to China or anyone else.

But the Senate report disclosed that last February, Lee was asked
during an FBI polygraph test whether he had every given specific
classified computer code related to weapons testing, or ``passed
W-88 information to any authorized person?''

``Wen Ho Lee failed this polygraph test,'' said the report.

MORE --( darned if I know ewhy this wrod is where it is )

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[CTRL] CBS Commits Fraud Against Americans and Constitution

[Bill Richer]

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CALIFORNIA NRA
  Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 11:55
  http://www.calnra.org

  CBS Commits Fraud Against Americans and Constitution

  NRA urges citizens to call and give CBS a "Reality Check"
  on individual right of law-abiding Americans to own firearms.

  (WASHINGTON) -- Immediately after last night's airing of CBS Evening
  News' blatantly biased "Reality Check" segment, which ignored recent
  scholarly research and falsely claimed that the Second Amendment is not
  an individual right, the National Rifle Association launched a campaign
  to provide CBS News with its own reality check.

  "Clearly, the reality of CBS is not in step with the reality of the view
  of the vast majority of law-abiding Americans, nor in line with the view
  of most constitutional scholars. The national media elite at CBS
  wouldn't know reality if it stepped in front of Dan Rather's limousine,"
  said James J. Baker, executive director of NRA's Institute for
  Legislative Action.

  "This alleged news network completely ignored a mountain of recent
  research from constitutional scholars who agree that the Second
  Amendment refers to an individual right, just as the entire Bill of
  Rights refers to individual rights."

  Baker said he was urging NRA members and concerned citizens to call CBS
  News and local CBS affiliates to express their outrage that last night's
  so-called "news" report would ignore the bulk of recent scholarly
  research. "Every American, every journalist, who values truth, accuracy
  and balanced reporting should call and express their outrage at CBS'
  effort to disguise their editorial bias as news," Baker said. "It is
  little wonder that their ratings continue to diminish."

  Baker noted several key failures on the part of CBS:

  ** CBS FAILED to cite the 1990 Supreme Court reference to the Second
  Amendment in U.S. v. Verdugo-Urquidez that stated, "`the people´
  protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second
  Amendments ... refers to a class of persons who are part of the national
  community." Each of these rights are individual.

  ** CBS FAILED to report this year's federal court ruling from the
  Northern District of Texas, U.S. v. Emerson, in which the federal judge
  overturned a federal gun law on Second Amendment grounds and argued,
  "The rights of the Second Amendment should be as zealously guarded as
  the other individual liberties enshrined in the bill of rights."

  ** CBS FAILED to report that, in the last decade, scholars from across
  the political spectrum have concluded that the Second Amendment, from
  any method of analysis, protects an individual right, and that this view
  is now commonly referred to as the "Standard Model" (Glenn Harlan
  Reynolds, 1995).

  ** CBS FAILED to note that the nation's leading constitutional scholars
  such as Lawrence Tribe (Harvard), Akil Reed Amar (Yale), William Van
  Alstyne (Duke), and Sanford Levinson (Texas) ascribe to the concept of
  the individual Second Amendment right as the "Standard Model."

  ** CBS FAILED to report the conclusion of Professor Glenn Harlan
  Reynolds, of the University of Tennessee, that scholars adhering to an
  individual rights interpretation, "... dominate the academic literature
  on the Second Amendment almost completely," and that this view is "...
  the mainstream scholarly interpretation."

  "The bottom line is that CBS failed as a news organization last night,"
  Baker said.

  "They even completely ignored statements by a Supreme Court Justice,
  Clarence Thomas, in clear and full support the Second Amendment as an
  individual right and in anticipation of ruling on a future case to that
  effect."

  Baker said the NRA, the nation's oldest grassroots civil rights
  organization, would continue its work to preserve the Second Amendment,
  and the entire Bill of Rights, for future generations. "The Bill of
  Rights, including the Second Amendment, and the NRA were here long
  before CBS was founded and, I suspect, will remain long after they're
  gone," Baker said. "And that bodes well for future generations of
  freedom-loving Americans."


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[CTRL] Clinton appointees meet privately

[Bill Richer]

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Clinton appointees meet privately



By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The eight federal judges appointed by President Clinton to the U.S. District
Court in Washington meet privately every month in closed-door sessions that
other jurists believe are improper and call into question the court's
impartiality.
  "I cannot imagine any legitimate reason for them to meet together once
a month, even socially," said one veteran courthouse official familiar with
the sessions.
  "It's not only in bad taste, it certainly has the appearance of
impropriety. It's hard to imagine any rationale for these meetings."
  Another court official said they "reek with impropriety."
  Concern among courthouse officials about the meetings, which are
described in e-mail addressed monthly to each of the eight judges, comes at
a time that Chief U.S. District Judge Norma Holloway Johnson is being
publicly criticized for selectively assigning criminal cases against friends
and associates of Mr. Clinton's to judges the president has appointed.
  None of the eight Clinton-appointed judges, all of whom were named to
the bench between 1994 to 1998, would comment on the meetings or their
content.
  "I have no comment to make on these matters," said U.S. District Judge
Henry H. Kennedy Jr., the only one of the eight who personally answered a
telephone call. A spokeswoman for Judge Richard W. Roberts returned a call
but said only that the judge "declined comment."
  Four judges appointed by other presidents, both Republican and
Democrat, said the meetings have been taking place for some time, although
specific topics are not known. They question the propriety of the sessions
and lament what they described as the "loss of collegiality" when the judges
fail to come together as a group -- which the others do often.
  "The Clinton appointees have confirmed that they meet together, and we
know they do, but where they go and what they discuss I just don't know,"
said one judge. "But a very important part of what we do here is our
collegiality. We all come with political viewpoints but we try to leave
politics behind. Unfortunately, the Clinton appointees have gone off on
their own."
  The nature of the isolation, another judge said, was punctuated by an
e-mail message sent to all of the judges inviting them to a birthday party
for U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina, a 1994 Clinton appointee. The
message asked the judges to guess Judge Urbina's age for a prize but
excluded members of the "Magnificent Seven" -- a name the first seven
Clinton appointees had used to describe their group before Judge Roberts'
1998 appointment.
  There are 23 judges at the federal courthouse, including the eight
named by Mr. Clinton. Five were appointed by President Carter and five by
President Reagan. Four were named by President Johnson and one was picked by
President Nixon. None of the other judges hold separate meetings, courthouse
sources said.
  Questions of impropriety at the courthouse have drawn the attention of
the Senate Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Republican, is considering whether to begin an investigation or call for
hearings to resolve the issue.
  During a confirmation hearing yesterday for two Justice Department
officials, Mr. Hatch described as "deeply troubling" reports that Judge
Johnson had bypassed the court's random case assignment procedures "by
taking the unusual step of hand-picking" judges appointed by Mr. Clinton to
hear cases involving Webster L. Hubbell and Charles Yah Lin Trie.
  "Even if deviations from the district court's random case assignment
procedures are technically permitted by local rule, I share the concern that
has been expressed by other judges on the court that these assignments will
damage the public's confidence that these cases were impartially
adjudicated," he said.
  Committee member Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, echoed Mr.
Hatch's concerns, adding that as a former prosecutor he was "stunned" by the
Johnson assignments.
  He said it "might be necessary" for the committee to investigate the
matter to restore the public's confidence.
  On Tuesday, Judge Johnson defended her decision not to follow the
court's traditional random-assignment process when she assigned the Hubbell
and Trie cases to U.S. District Judges Paul L. Friedman and James
Robertson --both Clinton appointees.
  She said the cases were assigned to "highly capable federal judges"
and that "politics was not and is never a factor in our case assignments."
  She said the chief judge has the right to assign "protracted and
complex cases" when it is deemed necessary, noting that "my predecessors and
I have used this assignment system to enable our court to expeditiousl

[CTRL] U.N. POPULATION FUND SUPPORTS MILOSEVIC'S ETHNIC CLEANSING

[Bill Richer]

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U.N. POPULATION FUND SUPPORTS MILOSEVIC'S ETHNIC CLEANSING
Birth Control Campaigns Among Kosovo Inhabitants

WASHINGTON, AUG 3 (ZENIT).- Today the Population Research Institute
(PRI) released additional evidence confirming the partnership between
the UNFPA and the Yugoslavian government to target and reduce the
Kosovar population. Officials in the Serbian government, including
Milosevic himself, have openly admitted their intent to reduce the
Kosovar ethnic population.

"The state must find a way ... to limit or forbid the enormous birthrate
in Kosovo," Rada Trajkovic, Serbian Minister for Family Affairs, said in
a recent report on Yugoslavian demographics.

At the same time, Stirling Scruggs, head of UNFPA's external
communications, confirmed that UNFPA was invited by Milosevic's regime
to specifically target the Kosovar population. "We were invited into
Kosovo by the Yugoslavian government to conduct a needs assessment and
follow up later with regular programs," Scruggs stated in the
July-August 1999 edition of "PRI Review."

Steven Mosher, president of PRI, said, "The UNFPA is in complicity with
Milosevic's 'stealth' ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kosovar
population. The UNFPA has admitted that it is working hand-in-glove with
the Milosevic regime, which the world knows has recently attempted the
forceful extermination of its Kosovar minority. Thanks to the UNFPA,
Milosevic will now achieve his aim of reducing the ethnic Albanian
population of Kosovo by other means. The targeting of Kosovar women and
families will continue, aided by U.S. tax dollars, as the UNFPA engages
in what might be called 'silent ethnic cleansing.' "

The UNFPA, on the other hand, has denied any involvement with
Milosevic's campaign to reduce the numbers of ethnic Albanians in
Kosovo. In a press release dated July 29, 1999, it attacked the PRI for
providing information it described as "false," and spoke of its
commitment to "reproductive health."

Steve Mosher was quick to reply. "Anyone who thinks the UNFPA is
concerned with 'reproductive health' should think again. The UNFPA is
not interested in healthy reproductive systems, but in ones that have
been disabled by abortion, sterilization, and contraception. The
organization's very name betrays its purpose. We are talking about the
U.N. Population Fund here, not the U.N. Reproductive Health Fund."

The UNFPA's "regular programs" include abortion-inducing "morning after"
pills, originally shipped into the region for alleged rape victims,
along with shipments of crude manual vacuum aspirators, which PRI has
confirmed will be used for abortions by trained NGOs. ZE99080306

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[CTRL] Curious facts and stories

[Bill Richer]

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Curious facts and stories



© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

We have recently been hit with a wave of curious stories. For example, there
recently appeared a report about illegal immigration from Mexico. Strangely,
it wasn't about Mexican illegal immigrants. It was about OTMs -- Other Than
Mexicans -- slinking across our southern frontier. Apparently the United
States Border Patrol's Tucson and Yuma sectors, over the past two years, have
apprehended 119 mainland Chinese, 31 Bulgarians, 15 Cubans, 10 Lebanese, 10
Poles, nine Filipinos, nine Indians, seven Iranians, six Romanians, and six
Russians.

What's so curious about these figures? China, Bulgaria, Cuba, Poland, Romania
and Russia -- six of the ten countries mentioned -- are part of the "former"
Communist bloc. Of the OTMs caught trying to penetrate that particular sector
of the U.S. border, 187 out of 222 were either from Communist countries or
"former" Communist countries.

Here's another interesting story: The Russian General Staff is preparing for
a large military exercise called "Combat Commonwealth 99." This giant war
game will involve forces from Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan and
Kyrgystan. The drill will commence with operations carried out by the Air and
Air Defense forces. The exercise will simulate defense against a missile
strike on the "former" Soviet Union (now dubbed the "Commonwealth of
Independent States").

Here is another curious story: Last Saturday Russian news sources told of a
high level Kremlin meeting chaired by Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin. The
meeting was about improved methods for protecting the Russian people in the
event of a thermonuclear war. Sources reported that a new civil defense
doctrine was being prepared. Itar-Tass said, "Participants at the meeting
believe that protection of the population is the most important task of the
state."

Another curious fact reared its head in Khabarovsk, Russia, last Sunday.
According to railway chief Aleksandr Strelnik, the amount of freight hauled
on Russia's Far Eastern Railway has recently jumped by 49 percent. No
explanation was offered for this increase. As you might guess, tourists are
not exactly flocking to Siberia, and the local economy is said to be
stagnant. Of course, the Russian Far East is noted for being one of the
world's largest repositories of mothballed tanks, self-propelled guns,
armored personnel carriers, hydrogen bombs and missiles. A dramatic increase
in Siberian rail traffic could mean that the repository is being tapped.

Here's another item: Last Sunday they were celebrating Airborne Trooper Day
in Moscow. General Aleksandr Lebed, himself an old paratrooper, attended the
festivities and offered an alarming prediction about growing unrest in the
North Caucasus (i.e., Chechnya). Lebed said that "complications in the North
Caucasus might lead to a state of emergency in the whole of Russia."

On Monday, the day after the general's statement, there was a huge gun battle
in the North Caucasus between "bandits" and Russian authorities, leaving 10
dead and several wounded.

And yet another odd story appears: Adm. Dennis Blair, commander in chief of
U.S. forces in the Pacific, met with members of Congress and congressional
aides last week. According to Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, Adm. Blair
referred to Taiwan as "the turd in the punchbowl." On the subject of
defending Taiwan in the event of a Communist invasion, Adm. Blair was quoted
as saying: "I don't think we should support them at all."

Anyone familiar with the military knows that a ranking admiral wouldn't dare
make statements of this kind unless supported by the president. If any top
commander ever says something political that goes against policy, then he is
sure to be slapped down. And that leads us to what recently happened to Gen.
Wesley Clark, NATO supreme commander.

Well, he's not supreme for long.

It appears that Gen. Clark did something rather foolish last month when he
testified before a Senate committee about the Russians capturing Pristina
airport. When asked why he'd been caught off guard by the Russian march on
Pristina, Clark replied that he hadn't been caught off guard. According to
Clark, a higher authority had purposely allowed Pristina to fall to the
Russians.

Uh oh. This was a naughty thing to have said. Everybody knows that only one
authority stands higher than a four star general. It's not nice to imply that
the president was to blame for the most embarrassing debacle of the Balkan
campaign. Obviously, this could not go unpunished. So it wasn't surprising
when President Clinton retaliated by cutting short General Clark's term as
supreme NATO commander by two months.

Worse yet, a story was leaked to Newsweek suggesting that Clark had risked
World War III by ordering an air assault to grab Pristina before the Russians
could reach it. Clark's subordinate, British Lt. Gen. Michael Jackso

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] The Flag of the United States and of the Union of States....]

[Robert Tatman]

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Inhabitant of the Conquered lands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Be it enacted by the Senate and Houfe of Reprefeantatives of the United
States of America, in Congrefs Affembled, That from and after the firft day of
May anno Domini one thoufand feven hundred and ninety-five, the flag of the
United States, be fifteen fripes alternate red and white.  That the Union be
fifteen ftars in a blue field.
>
> FREDERICK AUGUSTUS MUHLENBERG,
> Speaker of the Houfe of Reprefentatives.
>
> JOHN ADAMS, Vice-President of the United
> States, and Prefident of the Senate.
>
> Approved, January the thirteenth, 1794:
>
> GEORGE WASHINGTON
> Prefident of the United States.
>
This represented the addition of Vermont and Kentucky to the Union. This flag
was the one in use during the War of 1812 which inspired Francis Scott Key to
write "The Star-Spangled Banner".

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] What do you do with the defective slaves?]

[Robert Tatman]

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Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> What do you do with the defective slaves?
>
>
> What do you do with the defective slaves?
> Do you set them aside?
> Do you boil them in oil?
> Do you deceive them,
> As, you bleed them,
> All the while?
>
> What do you do with the defective slaves?
> Do you get them to fight one another?
> You know,
> To save you the bother?
>
> Now, you lose,
> By the way,
> Everytime;
> But the play is the game,
> And it ain’t always the same.
> And isn’t being a player,
> Better than,
> Being the game?
>
> What do you do with the defective slaves?
> Effectively, cajoling away,
> Away down the river,
> Away till the time,
> A will and a way,
> For the defective slaves.
>
>
> (C) !997 R. A. Kris Millegan
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>

When a Man Hath No Freedom

When a man hath no freedom to fight for at home,
Let him combat for that of his neighbours.
Let him fight for the glory of Greece and of Rome,
And get knocked on the head for his labours.

To do good to one's fellow's the chivalrous plan,
And is always as nobly requited.
So battle for freedom wherever you can,
And, if not shot or hanged, you'll be knighted.

--Alfred, Lord Tennyson


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[CTRL] The Threat from NSA (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Does anyone really think that if they do it to Europe that they
don't do it here?

 Wednesday, August 4, 1999

PERSPECTIVE ON WORLD AFFAIRS
Europe Blows Whistle on That Great
Eavesdropper, the NSA

 Europe is discretely gearing up for one of
  the most interesting legal battles in its
  history. At stake is the future of the world's
  most secretive intelligence organization,
  America's National Security Agency.

   The NSA is in the business of
  eavesdropping on the world's communications
  networks for the benefit of the United States.
  In doing so, it has built a vast spying operation
  that reaches into the telephone systems of
  nearly every country. Its operations are so
  secret that this activity, outside the U.S.,
  occurs without any democratic oversight and
  without any legal basis.

   Over the past year, members of the
  European Parliament have learned, to their
  astonishment, that the NSA, in collusion with
  the British government, has created the means
  to intercept almost every fax, e-mail and
  telephone call within the European Union. The
  revelation has irritated governments throughout
  Europe, culminating in a current Italian judicial
  inquiry into the legality of the NSA's activity.

   Sketchy details of the NSA's spying in
  Europe had been common currency here for
  decades but had never been formally
  acknowledged. Attempts by British MPs had
  for decades been ignored.

   The issue has erupted now because of two
  recent European Parliament studies that
  confirm the existence in Britain of a network of
  communications intelligence bases operated by
  the NSA. The publication last year of the first
  report, "An Appraisal of the Technologies of
  Political Control," confirmed for the first time
  that the NSA had established a surveillance
  capacity over the entire European
  communications network. It also described a
  grid of supercomputers, known as Echelon,
  capable of scanning vast areas of the
  communications spectrum to detect keywords.

   Of particular interest to Parliament was the
  report's assertion that the NSA was beefing up
  its commercial espionage activities. Its claim is
  that the NSA has been routinely intercepting
  sensitive traffic relating to bids, takeovers,
  mergers, investments and tender offers, all for
  U.S. economic benefit.

   Questions have been raised by
  parliamentarians in Germany, Norway,
  Denmark, Holland and Sweden. Then, in
  September, the plenary session of the
  European Parliament took the unprecedented
  step of openly debating the activities of the
  NSA. In a consensus resolution, the Parliament
  fired a shot across the bow of the spooks by
  demanding more openness and accountability.

   Any thoughts that these matters were
  simply paranoid musings by fans of "The
  X-Files" were scuttled in June when the second
  report, "Interception Capabilities 2000," set out
  the technical specifications of the interception
  system. The report revealed details of a secret
  plan to create a "seamless" web of
  telecommunications surveillance across all
  national boundaries. The strategy was advised
  by national security agencies and by the FBI,
  which instigated with Brussels a top-secret
  planning organization called the International
  Law Enforcement Telecommunications
  Seminar. In time, two vast systems--one
  designed for national security and one for law
  enforcement--would merge and, in the process,
  would cripple national control over surveillance
  activities.

   The scandal has found its way to
  Washington. The House Permanent Select
  Committee on I

[CTRL] Free Speech Takes A Hit (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

 -Caveat Lector-

Free speech takes a hit

Avis case: State high court elevates the rights of employees to
have a harassment-free workplace.

BY HOWARD MINTZ
Mercury News Staff Writer

A sharply divided California Supreme Court, struggling with an
unprecedented clash between free-speech rights and workplace
discrimination, decided Monday that the First Amendment can take
a back seat to preventing harassment on the job.

In a case with national implications, the state's high court held
that government has the power to regulate words in the employment
setting, at least when there is a proven need to correct
harassing conduct and discrimination. The ruling, written by
Chief Justice Ronald George, essentially permits a judge to
muzzle an employee found to have created a hostile work setting
by directing racial slurs at colleagues.

Closely watched by civil-liberties groups, the ruling stems from
a long legal battle over a discrimination lawsuit filed against
Avis Rent-A-Car by a group of Latino employees who maintained a
supervisor constantly berated them with racial epithets.

At the end of a 1995 trial, in which a San Francisco jury sided
in part with the Latino workers, a judge barred Avis service
agent John Lawrence from uttering any derogatory statements in
the future. The scope of that order -- and its constitutionality
-- posed unsettled legal questions for California's high court.

Although the justices fell short of carving out a free-speech
exception in the workplace, they concluded that a restraint on
Lawrence was justified by the jury's finding that he caused a
hostile environment at Avis. Justice Kathryn Mickle Werdegar, who
provided the deciding vote in a 4-3 ruling, would have gone
further, saying the state has a fundamental interest in trying to
``eradicate racial discrimination in the workplace.''

Avis attorneys said the company had not fully evaluated the
opinion and would have no comment on it until today. Avis, joined
by several free-speech groups, has argued that while harassing
conduct can be regulated, speech of any kind cannot.  They have
warned that gag orders like the one imposed on Lawrence are a
clear violation of free-speech guarantees.

Next stop: Supreme Court?

Avis can appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, which legal
experts say has not addressed the issue head-on. Lawyers worried
about the free-speech implications say Monday's ruling might
force employers to be overly restrictive about speech in the
office.

``I think it leaves us more confused than when we started,'' Los
Angeles attorney Bruce Adelstein, who sided with Avis on behalf
of the Center for Individual Rights, said of the court's
decision.

University of California-Los Angeles law Professor Eugene Volokh,
who has closely studied the case, agreed. ``The case leaves open
a lot more questions than it resolves,'' Volokh said. ``The
majority decision is very narrow, but it does say that racial
slurs may be enjoined by a court consistent with the First
Amendment.''

Lawyers for the Latino workers, with backing from groups
including the American Civil Liberties Union, argued that the
need to keep the workplace free of harassment outweighs any
restraint on free speech. They were pleased with the court's
ruling, saying it simply ratified the importance of protecting
workers against discrimination.

``The opinion was not revolutionary,'' said Michelle Alexander,
director of the racial justice project at the ACLU, which usually
sides with free-speech advocates, but came down on the side of
anti-discrimination forces in the case. ``What would have been
shocking is if the California Supreme Court came out the other
way.  The First Amendment is not a license to discriminate.''

Strong dissent

At least three of the justices did find the ruling revolutionary,
however. The three dissenters, in strong language, condemned any
use of a court order to block speech, even if it is designed to
cure workplace discrimination or harassment. One justice called
Monday's ruling ``sailing into uncharted First Amendment
waters,'' and the dissenters invited the U.S. Supreme Court to
settle the matter.

``I can think of no circumstance in which this court has brushed
aside such an important constitutional protection as the right to
freespeech on the basis of so little analysis or authority,''
Justice Janice Rogers Brown observed in her dissent. ``Speech is
unpleasant sometimes. It may be disgusting. It may be offensive.
But, with few exceptions . . . courts (are prohibited)  from
using their . . .powers as a surgical instrument to extricate
disfavored ideas.''

Added Justice Joyce Kennard, ``Employees do not surrender their
constitutional free-speech rights when they go to work.'' The
legal dispute dates back to 1991 and 1992, when Lawrence and
other Avis employees were first accused of harassing Latino
service workers at the agency's San Francisco International
Airport facility. Seventeen workers sued, and eight of them
eventually won $135

[CTRL] State-of-the-art In Techno-Warfare (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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If we can do this now, can you imagine what would be possible in
these regards if/when we (or any EBE) we are able to master
intersteller travel?

Ever see the movie "Predator?"

Mike


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 18:42:20 -0400
From: JONIFERRIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  A Battery That Can Take a Bullet

A Battery That Can Take a Bullet
by Chris Oakes

3:00 a.m.  3.Aug.99.PDT
The US Army likes to shoot batteries.

"We actually take them and shoot them and see what response we
get," said Colonel Bruce Jette, project manager for the US Army's
Soldier Systems Center Land Warrior project.

Any computer battery has to meet stringent requirements for
weight, performance, and battery life. If it's for the US Army,
it also has to be bulletproof.

Survivability is key to designing battery packs powering the
cyber-soldier of tomorrow. The Army's Land Warrior is an
integrated system of headsets, weapon-siting systems,
communications, displays, biosensors, and other electronics
mounted on the human frame.

The Natick, Massachusetts-based Army unit last week awarded an
initial US$50,000 contract to battery-maker UltraLife to develop
a battery for potential deployment in 2003.

UltraLife developed a leak-proof battery that fit Land Warrior's
unique needs, notably its ability to survive gunfire.

"There's a small flash at point of impact, because you short the
battery out. But the damage is localized and the battery
continues to operate," Jette said.

If the soldier and/or the battery get hit, power must remain
available so Land Warrior can go on collecting biological data,
much like an airplane's black box.

"[Land Warrior] will be recording the last half hour to 40
minutes of biosensor data," Jette said. "Was [the soldier] in a
normal state, a state of stress, was he tired? Then you would see
any changes [caused by] the wounding process."

The telltale medical data is fed into the arriving medic's own
electronics gear.

Keep in mind all the gear must be worn, and as comfortably as
possible. To that end, UltraLife's specialized design lets the
Land Warrior tailors stack a battery out of thin sheets of
plasticized film.

"You can cut and shape them any way you want ... The entire thing
is about the thickness of thin plastic you'd find in food plastic
wrapping," Jette explained. If the designers want more battery
life, they just layer a bigger stack of the charged film.

"It's so thin, it becomes part of the vest," said Peter
Comerford, vice president of administration for UltraLife.

The nearly solid, "prismatic" batteries have been around for some
time but are still new to practical use, said Comerford. He said
cellular phone and laptop computer manufacturers have also shown
interest in the technology.

Another major combat issue Land Warrior addresses is
communication and orientation, the Army's Jette said. When a
flurry of soldiers parachute into enemy territory, a little
instant messaging and personal navigation can go a long way.

Once he touches down, the soldier today has to figure out his
location using such old-school factors as the plane's direction
and which way the wind is blowing. The Land Warrior replaces
those determinants with global positioning satellite gear,
headset communications, and head-mounted displays.

"[The soldier will] be able to know where everybody else in the
squad is, where the rally points are. The squad leader can use
the system's communications to say 'I see where you are, and
where the rally point is, and here's how I want you to get
there,'" said Jette.

Land Warrior can even zap digitally captured video and still
images between squad members, delivering them via a digital data
link.

The system employs a variety of computer-enhanced weapons-siting
technology for more accurate -- and safer -- aiming. Sites that
use lasers, video, and thermal detection let the soldier aim his
weapon without exposing his body.

All this gee-whiz technology adds up to a change in what Jette
calls the "expectations" of the cyber-soldier and his enemy.

The objective of a soldier isn't always hitting the enemy soldier
-- "it's getting him so he doesn't want to fight you anymore," he
said. That's done by increasing his expectation of being shot --
and nothing does that better than the very accurate firing
capability of a system like Land Warrior.

"You want to minimize your likelihood of being shot while being
able to maximize the enemy's expectation of being shot," said
Jette.

People thinking of the Army's function as Sergeant Bilko or
Rambo, Jette said. But it's not as simple as firing at will.

"If you think about combat it's managed chaos, and he who manages
the chaos best wins. When you look at [Land Warrior], the purpose
is to provide situational awareness. That decreases the amount of
chaos the soldier is likely to deal with."


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[CTRL] Question

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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Does anyone have a list of the people who pleaded the 5th or left the
country during the Chinagate investigation?

Hilary

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

[ric carter]

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SkeptiNews 990805c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No sexually ambiguous chimeras were badly harmed to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ THE STARGATE CHRONICLES. A web site by Clark C. McClelland, UFO Researcher
  and Aerospace Engineer. Clark is a self-alleged NASA insider and a trained
  aerospace engineer with over 53 years experience in the fields of space
  science and UFO research. Until the release of The Stargate Chronicles, no
  person working within the secretive inner circle of NASA at Kennedy Space
  Center has had the courage to come forth with intimate data and historical
  facts about the knowledge NASA possesses of "nonexistent" craft - UFOs -
  unidentified flying objects that the US government refuses to acknowledge
  as already having been identified. Those who choose to ignore the truth
  can remain in a blissful dreamworld until reality hits the proverbial fan.
  The truth is fast approaching. http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/

: Has truth bumped into you yet? Are you roadkill on the celestial highway?
Is Clark another disinformation agent, working to distract us from The Plot?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'Review of randomised controlled trials of traditional Chinese medicine'
  Many randomised controlled trials have been conducted in China to evaluate
  the effectiveness of traditional Chinese medicine, but much of the infor-
  mation is inaccessible to Western doctors. Most trials claimed that the
  tested treatments were effective, indicating that publication bias may
  be common. The quality of trials of traditional Chinese medicine must be
  improved urgently.  http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/319/7203/160

: Should/can/will your traditional practices be evaluated for effectiveness?
Is tradition irrelevant to survival? What's your favorite ineffective herb?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ THE ARCHIVES OF SCIENTISTS' TRANSCENDENT EXPERIENCES (TASTE)   An online
  journal devoted to transcendent experiences that scientists have reported.
  It lets scientists express these experiences in a psychologically (and
  professionally) safe space. Charles T. Tart, Ph.D., editor of this site,
  saw a need  for scientists to be able to share their personal transcendent
  experiences in a safe, anonymous, but quality controlled space that almost
  all scientists have ready access to. The site will take submissions only
  from "scientists" although the public is free to visit and get a taste of
  TASTE. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/tart/taste/

: Have you had transcendent experiences? Are they susceptible to rational
exploration? Are they part of observable reality? Can they be most simply
explained by the near-infinite complexity of human consciousness? D'ya care?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SHORT R.E.M. LATENCY TIED TO AFFECTIVE DISORDER. A particular kind of
  sleep dysregulation that is familial is linked to affective disorders.
  psychopathologists report. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/5847.rhtml

# EFFECT OF NONEPILEPTIC EVENTS UNDERESTIMATED. Nonepileptic events, paroxy-
  smal episodes unassociated with electrical discharge, are more common than
  is appreciated and more serious. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/5913.rhtml

# PERINATAL FACTORS LINKED TO ANOREXIA NERVOSA. Prematurity, birth trauma
  may increase the risk of development of anorexia nervosa among girls,
  Swedish researchers report. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/5923.rhtml

: What's your favorite psychopathological disorder? Is it organic, or caused
by environmental disruption, alien involvement, Illuminati, CIA/MI5/KGB, me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ INCONSTANT MOON - Multimedia tours of the lunar surface. Explore the Moon,
  discover its dramatic features and phenomena - often beautiful, sometimes
  bizarre, always changing. Inconstant Moon will take you on a new tour each
  night, with maps, photos, explanations, animations, selected links and
  even music! And you needn't rent a vacuum suit. www.inconstantmoon.com/

: Have you visited Luna lately? Have you been to the Reptilioid/Nazi flying
saucer bases? Do you work at the commo complex on Farside? Is the pay good?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# Musical estate of Bach's son found - treasure-trove of JBS manuscripts:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560578913-8b7
# Update: Mozart won't make kids smarter - brain development unaffected:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560564576-81b
# Van Gogh drawing returned to heir - Nazis forced sale:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560569498-8b8

@ THE UNEXPLAINED: http://www.theunexplainedsite.com/
@ GLOBAL STRATEGIES PROJECT - get Y2K ready: http://www.bashar.com/GSP/
@ Farsight Institute - failed predictions: http://www.farsight.org

@ Crop Circle Phenomena in Canada Report Arch

Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

[Sno0wl]

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On 5 Aug 99, , YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

> Altho I've heard some guys claim they had sex with females who
> 'pressured' them, because the guys said they felt that if they didn't,
> their 'manhood' would be questioned

Part of the old, standard college line. Seems to me I remember that if you weren't
willing or showed reluctance, the first thing the guy said was that you were --or
probably were--"frigid."
Same old same old.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Confirmation: $30 million of White United Natio

[Sno0wl]

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On 5 Aug 99, , Nicola wrote:

> > Bastrop.. AllTexas News  Nestled behind a hillside, just out of sight
> > from busy Highway 95 in Bastrop County, Texas, lies a growing fleet of
> > nearly a thousand showroom-new SUVs, 4WD pickups, suburbans and vans.
> > These vehicles are not overflow storage for an overstocked dealer.  This
> > fleet is owned by the federal government.
> >
> > All the vehicles are U.N. White.

The Catch-22 is that anyone tries to do anything about it creates an excuse to use
them.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] How to go brain dead in easy links

[Sno0wl]

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On 4 Aug 99, , piper wrote:

> http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/chem.htm
> How many of you realize that the brain cells
> are nerve cells that have myelin sheaths on them?
> check out the Canola Oil and how it strips the myelin
> sheath off of nerves!

Grapeseed oil is a wonderful alternative. For some reason it is available in my local
Grand Union. Actually, it is distributed under the Grand Union label. If you don't see 
it
on the shelf, ask the manager. If they don't have it, they can get it for you and may
start stocking it. The other source is health food stores, but it is probably cheaper 
in
the GU.


sno0wl

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[CTRL] Diet of worms solves gut problems

[Hilary A. Thomas]

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'Yum,' she thought digging through her shelf for a cookbook.

Hilary


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_412000/412142.stm

Wednesday, August 4, 1999 Published at 17:52 GMT 18:52 UK

Diet of worms solves gut problems

Parasitic worms could hold the key to good digestive health

Drinking live parasitic worms has been found to be an effective treatement
for Crohn's Disease and Irritable Bowel Disease (IBD).

Researchers at the University of Iowa think that the virtual elimination of
such creatures from the human gut over the years has left the body
vulnerable to the massive immune reactions which typify the conditions.

Although only six sufferers took part in this trial, the results were so
impressive that larger experiments could now follow.

All six were given a drink containing microscopic worms which can survive,
although not reproduce in the human gut.

Between two or three weeks later, their symptoms completely disappeared,
and stayed away for about a month.

A sterile existence

Dr Joel Weinstock, who carried out the tests, said: "We're living in boxes,
breathing sterile air and drinking sterile water.

"As we've de-wormed, people have developed immune systems which are not
damped.

"The worms living in the gastrointestinal tract have been with us for three
million years, and our immune systems have got used to their presence."

Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis and other forms of inflammatory bowel
disease appear to be cause by an overactive immune system, which causes
inflammation in the digestive system.

Symptoms include abdominal pain, bowel obstruction and bleeding.

The condition is incurable, and normal treatments include steroids, which
can reduce the inflammation, although these have been known to produce side
effects.

Dr Weinstock pointed out that the rise in such diseases over recent years
has coincided with a reduction in the incidence of parasitic worms in
humans.

Four tenths had worms

As little as 70 years ago, he said, 40% of US children enjoyed the company
of worms which could grow up to 20 centimetres long.

Dr Mark Cottrill, a Lancashire GP with a special interest in IBD, said the
use of worms was certainly novel.

He said: "I'm always open-minded about any innovation, even though
treatments have become much better."

He said that he occasionally found harmless worms living in peace in his
patients when he examined them with a colonoscope.

He said: "You do see these white things which don't like the light and
wriggle away."

Other scientists, such as Dr Balfour Sartor, from the University of North
Carolina, are experimenting with the use of bacteria to damp down the
immune system in IBD patients.

He said of Dr Weinstock's work: "It's an appealing way of using something
that's of fairly low toxicity to treat a set of diseases that for now we
don't have a cure for."

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[CTRL] OT: What's That Illegal Tax On Your Phone Bill Each Mo.? (fwd)

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This info was sent to me by a Reform Party friend.



The US Govt is now demanding of the phone companies, that they
not continue printing on their bills the new tax imposed by VP
Gore, and illegal tax, not passed thru Congress, not initiated
legally for the FCC, and facetiously referred to by the current
administration as a "mandatory contribution" which spells TAX to
me.  This TAX has been applied to our 'phone bills for over a
year, and most people do not even know what it is and have not
even called their 'phone co about it.

There is a bill, HR 692, pending in the house of reps and we need
to alert the people in our congress how we feel about being taxed
just on the whim and request of the VP.

In the House of Representatives, Rep Tom Tancredo has introduced
bill # 692 to repeal this illegal tax. Please support it.

You may argue, "well, we can't just repeal it now, without
finding a new source for that money", this argument was tried on
the Boat Owners special tax a few years ago, and it did not hold
water then either.

If the tax was illegal then, so must the use of the funds
collected thereby have been illegal too.  This bill must pass,
and all "mandatory contributions" taxes be refunded to the
people.  NOW!

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@ Do circles or formations ever happen in the winter? "They have found crop
  circles in snow, crusted snow. I [saw a photo] of this one in... Holland.
  It is approximately the size of this auditorium, with little rings 3/4 of
  an inch wide, with absolute perfection of 300 to 400 feet across of very
  intricate circles. Definitely, nobody walked in that snow! Who ever did it
  had to hover..." http://www.transformacomm.com/water/5phenomtalk.txt

: Do you hover to make snow-circles, ice-circles, rock-circles, kelp-circles
or fudge-cycles? What motivates your evanescent art? Are you perishable??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Peru village marks blood festival. COTABAMBAS, Peru (AP) Dimas Gamarra had
  to spend 2 long, cold weeks camped 16,000 feet high in the Andes mountains
  to snare a rare condor for his village's "celebration of blood" this year.
  During the three-day ritual of Andean music and dance, a giant condor is
  strapped to the back of a bull to symbolize the superiority of native cul-
  ture over the Spanish who conquered Peru over 400 years ago. The fiesta,
  held yearly at the end of July, was once common in Peru's southern Andes.
  Now it is held only in Cotabambas and one other village. One reason the
  ritual is disappearing is that the condor population is declining rapidly
  as modernization encroaches on the Andes, the bird's natural habitat.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560564561-448

: How do you celebrate blood? Do you employ endangered species? Are you used
in blood rituals because you're rather common? Who or what would you like to
strap to the back of a bull? Would the bull prevail? Which is superior? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ ALIENS ALTERING HUMAN HISTORY UNSEEN! A study team in New Jersey reports
  that aliens are using advanced, interdimensional technologies to roam
  around our world, observing, documenting, categorizing and interacting
  with humanity, unseen. The US Government is aware of them and has even
  attempted to record their existence unobtrusively. The beings involved
  have origins somewhere in Orion, say psychics who've analyzed them and the
  evidence of their existence, in 11 forms and 6 shapes of Orb phenomena,
  which represent what we see when we photograph their technologies giving
  them egress to our world. http://orbsite.com/orbsitemail.html

: What's your favorite advanced interdimensional technology? If the aliens
are unseen, how do we know they're there? Are research teams and psychics
being misled by disinformation meant to distract them/us from The Plot?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Eichmann jail memoirs release requested. JERUSALEM (AP) - In a 1,300-page
  notebook, Adolf Eichmann gave his account of the Nazi plot to exterminate
  Europe's Jews, trying to portray himself as Hitler's loyal disciple rather
  than a mastermind of the Holocaust. Eichmann's sons and Israeli Holocaust
  researchers are demanding that Israel release the jail house memoir, which
  has been locked up in Israel's State Archives since Eichmann's 1962 execu-
  tion. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560572721-74a

: Are you only following orders? Are you also issuing orders? Do you follow
orders from voices in your head? Do they order executions, genocide, pizzas?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# More than 500 mln guns said on planet. UNITED NATIONS (AP) - More than 500
  million guns and other small arms are circulating around the world, widely
  used because they are lethal, inexpensive, easy to care for and easy to
  hide, a UN panel says. Assault rifles, machine guns, pistols and grenade-
  launchers are increasingly "weapons of choice" in contemporary conflicts,
  the U.N. Department for Disarmament said in a report Tuesday. Then they
  were shot: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560565053-156

: How many guns are enough? 6 bln people, 1/2 bln guns - is that ratio good?
Do ETs employ the firearms oversupply to promote harvesting humans for food?
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[CTRL] UN Team Scrutinises Transnational Corporations

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Title: RIGHTS: UN Team Scrutinises Transnational Corporations

By Gustavo Capdevila

GENEVA, Aug 3 (IPS) - The United Nations (UN) installed a new
working group Tuesday to evaluate the effects of transnational
business activity on human rights.

El-Hadji Guisse, the working group's president, said
transnational corporations have a presence in the vital sectors of
the world economy and ''are thus in a position to block any moves
towards the respect for and protection of human rights.''

In a preparatory study for the working group, Guisse, a
magistrate from Senegal, recommended that nations create laws
which ''criminalise activities by transnational corporations that
violate economic, social and cultural rights.''

The biggest problem is getting transnationals to submit to
national or international law, stated Guisse.

The new working group, which functions within the UN
Subcommission on Human Rights, must establish the level of
compatibility between international investment agreements and
human rights law.

Asbjorn Eide, a Norwegian and one of the 26 independent members
of the Subcommission on Human Rights, remarked with satisfaction
on a group of industrialised nations' failed attempt to reach a
Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI), though he predicted
''this issue will resurface.''

The member-countries of the Organisation for Economic Co-
operation and Development (OECD) attempted to create the MAI, but
were frustrated in 1998 by ''the reaction of human rights
organisations,'' said Eide.

Halima Embarek Warzazi, working group expert from Morocco,
interpreted the OECD initiative as ''an attempt by transnationals
to gain free access to our countries.''

Among the traits of the transnationals, Guisse cited ''conducting
activities in several countries, the pooling of resources and the
joint preparation and application of a co-ordinated strategy.''

Geographic diversity is a source of legal and jurisdictional
conflict, which causes serious difficulties in exercising economic
rights, whether individual or collective, said Guisse.

The power of the transnational corporations is evident in the
fact that they hold 51 of the 100 greatest concentrations of
wealth in the world, explained Guisse, while the remaining 49
concentrations are in the hands of governments.

According to the preparatory report, Mitsubishi's trade volume is
greater than the gross national product (GNP) of Indonesia, Ford's
trade totals more than South Africa's GNP, and Royal Dutch Shell's
income is more than Norway's.

The working group's responsibilities also include analysing the
role of governments and their human rights policies in relation to
transnational corporations.

The current session of the UN Subcommission on Human Rights,
which lasts until August 27, will also study the effects of
globalisation on human rights.

Guisse warned that economic globalisation runs the risk of
creating even wealthier transnational corporations and the
impoverishment of even more people, especially in countries with
weak economies.

Industrialised countries hold 97 percent of the world's
registered patents. According to one working group member, this
concentration is not healthy because it becomes an instrument
transnationals can use to pressure less developed nations.

Eide stated that agro-industrial transnationals have launched
genetically modified seeds in the market, and as a result of the
related intellectual property rights, they have altered farming
methods that were based on thousands of years of traditional
knowledge.

U.S. expert David Weissbrodt stated that some transnationals that
have begun to adopt voluntary codes of conduct, either on an
individual basis, such as Shell oil company, or collectively, as
companies from the textile industry have done.

The working group, which has a three-year term, will also examine
the functioning of the UN system in order to promote the
compatibility of transnational activities and its human rights
principles. (END/IPS/tra-so/pc/mj/ld/99)


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[CTRL] HateWatch News 8/4/99

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HateWatch News for August 4, 1999

**Racist Describes Killing Of Gay Man In Alabama**
A white supremacist told jurors Wednesday that he and an Alabama
construction worker fatally beat a gay man in a crime so brutal that
jurors were visibly shaken when they saw photographs of the corpse.
Steve Mullins, who pleaded guilty in June to beating to death Billy Jack
Gaither in February, testified that he told defendant Charles
Butler that he intended to kill Gaither before the evening that they met
at a Rockford, Alabama, bar.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/nm/19990804/ts/crime_murder_1.html

**Police brace for neo-Nazi, civil rights confrontation**
Police in the nation's capital say they are braced for a neo-Nazi rally
and counterdemonstrations scheduled Saturday in front of the
White House. U.S. Park Police said Tuesday they expect about 300 people to
participate in the American Nationalist Party-sponsored four-block march
along Pennsylvania Avenue to Lafayette Park and about 500
counter-demonstrators.
http://www.herald.com/content/today/digdocs/072107.htm

**NAACP Stokes Flag Controversy**
The NAACP, which suggests tourists avoid South Carolina because the
Confederate flag still flies over the Statehouse,is prepared to take the
fight further. The civil rights group has amassed campaign records to
learn which companies have donated money to lawmakers who want the flag to
stay.Supporters say the flag represents South Carolina's heritage and
honors its war veterans; The NAACP considers it a symbol of slavery and
racism.
http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990804/V000444-080499-idx.html

**Hate Crime Bill Nearing Approval**
After several years of lobbying, supporters of a bill to increase the
government's power to prosecute hate crimes say they are closer than ever
to seeing it passed by Congress and signed into law.  Two weeks ago, the
Senate approved it without debate and added the bill to its version of a
government spending measure for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.
http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990804/V000272-080499-idx.html

**Players react to Jacobs' Klan gag **
Indians players reacted cautiously when asked about owner Dick Jacobs
donning a makeshift Ku Klux Klan hood and carrying a sign saying "How do
we get to the Justice Center?" in front of several guests, including
George L. Forbes and Wayne Embry, on board his private jet during a flight
to the All-Star Game last month.
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/pdnews/s04hoyn.ssf

**Yosemite: Hate crimes?**
Authorities have postponed deciding who will prosecute Cary Stayner for
the slayings of three Yosemite tourists, while a relative of the
victims said she'll testify today in a congressional hearing on hate
crimes. ``I do feel this was a hate crime,'' said Carole Carrington,
mother of Carole Sund and grandmother of Juli Sund, who were killed last
February along with their friend Silvina Pelosso. ``The man did not know
Carole and Juli and Silvina, and the only reason he killed them was
because they were women.''
http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/yosemite04.htm

**Church members serving time or awaiting trial**
The World Church of the Creator was started in 1973 by the late Florida
legislator Ben Klassen. The group was inactive in South Florida until a
few years ago, when the group began distributing racist fliers and
literature at rallies, bars and rock
concerts.Several of its local members are serving sentences or awaiting
trial on hate crimes:
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The Falun Gong crackdown: a crisis in China's corridors of power

By James Conachy
3 August 1999

The crackdown initiated on July 19 against the quasi-religious Falun
Gong sect is the most serious act of state repression in China since the
Tiananmen Square massacre in June 1989. Some 5,000 adherents have been
arrested over the last fortnight. Falun Gong videos and literature are
being collected and destroyed across the country. Around 200,000 books
were reportedly burnt in the city of Wuhan alone. Its web-sites have
been shut down or firewalled from Chinese viewers and any practice of
its beliefs made a criminal offence.

Since it was officially declared illegal on July 22, denunciations of
Falun Gong and repudiations of it by former members have dominated the
state media. News broadcasts on the state-run TV have been extended to
as long as two hours to provide for lengthy segments of anti-Falun Gong
propaganda. The movement has been accused of causing suicides and
insanity, charlatanism and plotting to bring down the Communist Party
government. Attempts are being make to extradite its leader-in-exile, Li
Hongzhi, who currently resides in New York, to face trial.

The crackdown has been widely interpreted as a response to the Falun
Gong demonstration in Beijing on April 25. About 10,000 members
assembled at the Zhongnanhai compound, the location of the private
residences and offices of China's highest leadership, to protest against
defamation of the sect by state-run media. In the midst of heightened
security due to the approaching 10th anniversary of Tiananmen Square,
the demonstration came as a sharp shock to the Beijing hierarchy. It
reportedly sent Chinese president Jiang Zemin into a rage.

During the 1990s, Beijing has not opposed religious movements. In fact,
in response to the widespread anti-government protests of 1989, the
regime pursued a deliberate policy of encouraging the revival of
religion as a safety valve for social discontent. The Taoist, Buddhist
and Christian faiths that were suppressed in other periods have rebuilt
a worshipper base of some 100 million people. Government departments
also facilitated the spread of Falun Gong after it was founded in May
1992.

Incorporating aspects of the traditional Chinese religions, Falun Gong
is derived from popular fitness exercises known as qigong. Holding out
the hope of mental and physical well being, it advocates adhering to an
austere lifestyle and performing specific types of qigong movements
unique to the sect.

Until 1996, government bodies gave the sect assistance to publish and
distribute its ideology, to lecture around the country and
internationally and to establish teaching centres in most major Chinese
cities. The most enthusiastic support was provided by a foundation
associated with the Police Ministry, which sponsored lectures and
"healing" sessions. Numerous government and party officials adopted
Falun Gong. Just last week, Li Qihua, a former general, a veteran of the
Long March and an associate of Mao, was forced to "confess" his mistakes
and renounce his allegiance to the sect.

If the figures given by the Chinese government in April are at all
accurate, Falun Gong experienced a meteoric rise, gaining a membership
numbering in the millions in the space of several years and opening 39
teaching centres, 1,900 places of instruction and over 28,000 group
exercise areas.

Its growth is rooted in the economic and social upheaval China has
passed through. Twenty years of market reforms have produced a country
polarised by region and social class. While top government bureaucrats
and new capitalist elements have made great fortunes, most people have
faced a steady undermining of their economic and social situation.

Most Falun Gong adherents come from the urban centres of China's former
industrial heartland, the north eastern and central provinces, which
have been hard hit by retrenchments and factory closures. Price reforms,
the stagnation and cutback of state-owned industries and the loss of
social security provisions have all contributed to a growing social
crisis in municipalities such as Changchun, Dalian, Shenyang,
Shijiazhuang, Tianjin and Wuhan. Unemployment has become endemic and
living standards are far below those of the coastal provinces that have
experienced massive inflows of foreign capital.

Dalian, for example, has an average monthly income of 474 yuan ($US59)
compared to 813 yuan in Shanghai. Changchun, the birth

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# YOSEMITE MURDERS GIVE BAD NAME TO BIGFOOT RESEARCH? PORTLAND, Maine -- A
  cryptozoologist in Portland ME thinks Bigfoot researchers may be able to
  help the FBI solve the mystery behind the Yosemite murders.  Prof. Loren
  Coleman says news reports suggest the alleged murderer, Cary Stayner, was
  an amateur Bigfoot researcher who spent countless hours looking for the
  hairy creature in Yosemite. http://egroups.com/group/konformist/607.html

: Do you look/kill for hairy creatures? Are all amateur cryptozoologists
homicidal maniacs? Has Yeti instructed you to kill? Is Bigfoot an ET? My
shoe size is 18(US) - am I Bigfoot? Am I dangerous? Would you kill for me?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Man sentenced for AntiChrist murder. SAULT STE. MARIE, Mich. (AP) A former
  newspaper carrier who gunned down an executive at his old paper because he
  thought the latter was the AntiChrist apologized to his victim's family
  before a judge sentenced him to life in prison. Killed with two shotgun
  blasts: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560567183-2be

# Colombian nuns cleared of murder. BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - Two nuns who
  made headlines when they shot a convent intruder with a revolver were
  cleared of murder charges. "The nuns acted in legitimate self-defense."
  Oh Mary: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560575995-b40

: Would you rather kill Christs, AntiChrists, BridesOfChrist, me? What kinds
of believers are most dangerous? Are you a believer? Are you dangerous? Why?
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# Ban Lifted On Western Musical Instruments. TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) Iran
  has lifted a two-decade ban on the import of Western musical instruments,
  which it has long seen as decadent and corrupt. Play that funky çümbüs
  (JOOM-bush), white boy: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990805/07/odd-iran

# World champion fire dancer to headline BYU festival. (U-WIRE) PROVO, Utah
  The Spencer W. Kimball Tower quad at Brigham Young University will be the
  hottest place to be Friday night. The former World Fire Knife Dance Champ-
  ion, Chief Sielu Avea, will be performing an hour-long fire dance routine
  as part of Summerfest. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/990804/odd-40

: Is fire/knife dancing more dangerous/decadent/fun than playing Western in-
struments? What special mental disciplines are required for either? Do alien
implants help? What are the most decadent instruments, dances, musics? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SPACE SCAVENGER PULLS DATA FROM 'LOST' SATELLITE. UC Berkeley astronomer
  Derek Buzasi is turning space trash into scientific treasure, salvaging a
  trove of scientific data from a NASA satellite that was once considered a
  total loss. When the NASA space telescope called Wide Field Infrared Expl-
  orer (WIRE) was launched last March, the main telescope's cover came off
  early, damaging it and rendering it useless. The amazing star camera - see
  http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9908/04/space.salvage/index.html

: Why have the Reptilioids allowed us to regain use of this instrument? Are
they feeding us disinformative data? Who is Buzasi really working for? Why?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The Falun Gong crackdown: Crisis in China's corridors of power. The crack-
  down initiated July 19 against the quasi-religious Falun Gong sect is the
  most serious act of state repression in China since the Tiananmen Square
  massacre in June 1989. Some 5,000 adherents have been arrested over the
  last fortnight. Falun Gong videos and literature are being collected and
  destroyed across the country. Around 200,000 books were reportedly burnt
  in the city of Wuhan alone. Its web-sites have been shut down or firewal-
  led from Chinese viewers and any practice of its beliefs made a criminal
  offence. http://www.egroups.com/group/konformist/606.html

: What quasi-religious sects would you like to crack down on? What sects are
likely to crack down on you? Do you like to crack down? Do the voices in y'r
head tell you to crack down? Are crackdowns necessary for self-preservation?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# Ebola virus outbreak fear hit Europe; Germany on virus alert:
  http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_4&item=#933823828
# PA claims Israeli mess in Bethlehem will deter millennium tourists:
  http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_3&item=#933731847

# Astronomers to observe solar eclipse in Iran on Aug. 11
  http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_3&item=#933710347
# Arab states take preventive measures to protect citizens during eclipse:
  http://upway.com/cgi-bin/readnews?day=99_08_2&item=#933633707

@ Guns Under Fire: http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/1

Re: [CTRL] More Pieces to TWA 800 Puzzle

[Ronald L. Wilson.]

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I'll bet the major media (CFR propaganda) won't touch that one. R Wilson

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[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Fw: Mena Drug Drop Deaths

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This Alabama story seems off topic, I know.  However, it is of great
importance in our common goals of uncovering truth and doing something about
the awful corruption those in authority have become capable of.  We've all
felt the pain of policies created by lying and misguided leaders.  Do we
intend to ever make them responsible for their actions?  Here's someone who
is trying at great risk to themselves.  And once again, the silenced media
fails to shout the important stories.   KL

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 1:06 AM
Subject: Mena Drug Drop Deaths


 LETTER

  Mena Drug Drop Deaths

 PLEASE read the following letter forwarded to me.  It is
 about the two boys who saw the drug drop in Mena, Arkansas
 and were later found dead.  The first story was that they
 committed suicide on the train tracks, but after their
 families protested, an autopsy showed bullet holes.  Any
 friend of Marlon Maddoux' is a friend of mine.  Marlon and
 Matriciana are both upstanding men.  Mr. Matriciana has made
 wonderful movies and I'm sure he took this movie project
 under much prayer before deciding to do it.  If I remember
 correctly, one of these boys was only 11. If you know anyone
 in Little Rock or you can go there, please go to the trial.
 Let me know if you're going, please.

  Thank you,
  Joetta Deutsch <>

  FWD: This is Laura Nichols.  I have attended the opening
 day of the trial where the two deputy sheriffs are sueing
 Mr. Pat Matriciana, owner of Jeremiah Films, Inc. for 16
 million dollars.  They accuse him of defamation of
 character.  They have to prove "reckless disregard for the
 truth."The video including the names of the two deputy
 sheriff's is called OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. The exact
 statement in question goes something like this.

 "Eyewitnesses have been implicated in the deaths of the two
 boys these people ."  Then the mens names are listed.

 The trial opened with the selection of jurors.  After about
 one hour of questioning, 13 people were chosen.  Then we
 broke for lunch.  This was Monday, Aug. 2nd. At 1 o'clock
 the opening statements began with the sheriff's side first.
 Then Mr. John Hall representing Mr. Matriciana gave his
 statement.  The first witness to be called was Mr.
 Matriciana.  After intensive questioning, the jury was then
 shown the video in length.  They were extremely moved by the
 video.  The only people in attendance for Mr. Matriciana
 were myself, my friend Penny, her son and my daughter.
 Then Mr. Matriciana had his son, a friend who had flown in
 from out of town, Mrs. Linda Ives. mother of Kevin Ives, one
 of the slain teenagers, his legal counsel and that was all.

 Since this information was put out last week by Marlin
 Maddoux, there should have been a full gallery.  But there
 were a total of 11 people.  I have contacted local
 newspaper, radio and have faxed out press releases.  I have
 contacted the pro-family groups in Arkansas. I have not
 heard by from Eagle Forum.  I did hear form Jerry Cox at the
 Family Council.  He refused to attend.  He said he would not
 support someone he did not know and he questioned the
 validity of the video (which he had never seen) and he had
 former past experience with people who made videos of this
 nature and that usually they were 2/3 right and the rest was
 wrong.

 Now I know that we can be led astray and that there are many
 people who go overboard with the conspiracy theory.  I
 subscribe to that theory but I do not go overboard.  I have
 utmost respect for the truth, proper research and I do not
 take most things for face value.

 When I showed up for the trial, I did not know Mr.
 Matriciana.  I only knew what I had heard on Marlin Maddoux.
 I heard them say that Mr. and Mrs. Maddoux are good personal
 friends to Mr. Matricana. I went because I was burdened to
 go, I wanted to pray, I was curious, and I just knew that I
 was supposed to go.

 Yes, I could have stayed home and prayed from there, but you
 can never ever replace real human warm bodies when it comes
 to encouraging and being active about something.

 Having met him for the first time Monday, I must tell you
 how broken-hearted that I am.  This man is an ordained
 Baptist Minister who, desiring to get the truth out about
 the murders, agreed to produce the film.

 Jean Duffy, a former district prosecuting attorney in Saline
 County,  along with Linda Ives, had done the research, the
 brought it to Mr. Pat Matriciana, and he agreed to produce
 it.  I wish that I could film what is taking place in that
 courtroom, because truly it is the court case of the
 century.  So many facts are coming forth.

 You may not understand this, but this man's life is at
 stake.  The media in Little Rock is doing a good job of
 keeping this hushed.  Two or three stations showed up, and
 the Ar Dem Gazette.  WE need this information to get out.
 We need 

[CTRL] One Foot in Atlantis

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

One Foot in Atlantis - The Secret Occult History of  WWII and its Impact on
New Age Politics
William Henry©1998 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
ISBN 1/8906093-49-9
249pps. - in-print
Earthpulse Press
P.O. Box 201393
Anchorage, Alaska
http://www.earthpulse.com
907.249.911
888.690.1277
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A very interesting book. Available now. Here is a taste.
Om
K
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 TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION:
MORNING AT THE INTERSECTION OF GOOD AND EVIL1
1. THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY:
PLANTING THE SEEDS OF THE ATLANTEAN CENTURY 11
2. ATLANTIS: THE ANTEDELUVIAN WORLD 18
3. ROAD WARRIORS27
4. DR. JUNG 33

5. THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES AND
THE BIRTH OF A GENOCIDAL PHILOSOPHY 38
6. IN GERMANY: THE REDISCOVERY OF
RUNES, SWASTIKAS AND NUDE SUNBATHING44
7. THE THULE SOCIETY AND THE BLOOD OF
THE GODS54
8 ATLANTIS, THE BLOOD OF
THE GODS AND F.D.R. 62
9. THE SOLDIERS OF CHRIST IN AMERICA69
10. THE ISRAELITES AND
THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON   75
11. THE BATTLE WITH TIAMAT  86
12. TIAMAT: THE MOMENT OF TRUTH 93
13. THE SOULS OF THE DAMNED 102
 14. DISTURBING THE UNIVERSE112
15. BIG BRAINS  119
16. PROJECT RAINBOW AND
THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT 123
17. ENLIL   135
18. EXILES FROM EDEN142
19. THE SHINING ONES AWAKEN 155
20. ABRAHAM: HE WHO HAS RAM 166
21. THE STONE OF DESTINY
AND THE LADDER TO HEAVEN179
22. THE BLACK STONE 201
23. THESE LONG, HUNGRY YEARS208
24. THE SPEAR OF DESTINY215
25. THE CUP OF DESTINY  229
26. THE NEW ATLANTEAN MOMENT235

INTRODUCTION:

MORNING AT THE INTERSECTION OF GOOD AND EVIL


I was reading a book on lost civilizations as I recall it. [1]

Suddenly, a startling fact leaped from the page. In 1934, at the height of
the Great Depression, President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his Secretary of
Agriculture, Henry A. Wallace, sent agents to Central Asia. They claimed they
were seeking drought-resistant grasses. However, as reported in Newsweek
magazine, in the Roosevelt Administration, it was common knowledge that
F.D.R. and Wallace were actually looking for the reincarnated Jesus in
Shambhala,[2] the Buddhist paradise.

F.D.R. looking for Jesus in Mongolia? This was surely one of the boldest
missions in history! If successful, it would be the tantamount event of modem
history. Everything would change.

Further investigation revealed inside occult details of this secretive
research project. Wallace, who became F.D.R.'s third-term vice-president, was
a disciple of a Russian guru and acclaimed artist and visionary named
Nicholas Roerich. He was the ringmaster in the search for Jesus. Roerich had
been preaching the gospel of the Second Coming ever since 1927 when he saw a
huge, shiny oval object (a UFO?) racing across the Tibetan sky while
dedicating a temple to Shambhala.[2]

For Roerich, Shambhala was the archetypal paradise the world was on the brink
of becoming. He knew it was going to be a tough fight to make it happen, but
Roerich had deep faith. With Wallace's help, and his high placed connections,
he sought to bring peace to the world.

Their plan was to connect America with a group of spiritual masters whom they
believed survived the cataclysm of Atlantis and who lived in Shambhala,
secretly influencing world affairs. This race of Atlanteans were the
spiritually actualized human beings who would usher in the new Golden Age,
the prophesied kingdom of heaven on earth.

If anyone could bring Jesus to F.D.R. it was Roerich. A renowned mystic and
flamboyant peacemaker with a bald head and long, pointed goatee, his
influence on world affairs began in World War I when he was associated with
the formation of the controversial League of Nations and its purpose of
creating a New World Order.

At that time Roerich made the bold claim that he was in possession of a piece
of a mysterious stone from another world. A divine messenger, Roerich
claimed, had sent the stone to earth from the star system Sirius. It had
previously been given to the emperor of Atlantis and then to King Solomon in
Jerusalem (c. 1000 B.C.).[3]

The stone had been hidden in a tower in Shambhala, broadcasting rays that
influenced the destiny of the world. In 1921, Roerich acquired possession of
it to aid in the formation of the League of Nations. He returned the stone to
Tibet shortly after his UFO sighting in 1927.

Whether or not Roerich was successful in locating Jesus is uncertain.
However, in 1935, Roerich did bring forth two major accomplishments. He
persuaded twenty-two countries, including the U.S., to gather at the White
House to sign the Roach Peace Pact, which created a "Red Cross of Culture."
The Roerich pact, which is still in effect today, sought to protect cultural
treasures from destruction by means of a special flag of three dots in a red
circle on a white banner.[4]

He also, along with Wallace, persuaded F.D.R. to place the Great Seal on the
back of the one dollar bill. The Great Seal, which is America's symbolic
coat-of-arms, was commissioned on July 4, 1776 and designed under the
watchful eye of 

[CTRL] More Pieces to TWA 800 Puzzle

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.ustimesdaily.com/
http://www.ustimesdaily.com/">U.S. Times Daily News
-


THE NEW AMERICAN
Vol. 15, No. 17
August 16, 1999

More on Flight TWA 800

More Pieces to TWA 800 Puzzle
by William Norman Grigg

Three years after TWA flight 800 exploded in mid-air over the Atlantic
just off Long Island, killing all 230 aboard, evidence is continuing to
accumulate that the federal government has deliberately misled the
public about the cause of the tragedy. After an investigation that
consumed 16 months and devoured $20 million, federal authorities
concluded that an aberrant spark in the plane’s center fuel tank
triggered the catastrophic explosion. However, in order to reach this
conclusion, federal investigators had to discard a significant body of
evidence suggesting that the plane was shot down in an act of terrorism
and mass murder.

The July 14th-20th edition of the left-wing Village Voice quoted an
unnamed "missile expert" who worked in the FBI’s investigation of the
Flight 800 explosion. The expert, a military engineer "who specializes
in infrared missile technology," was "made privy to evidence suggesting
that TWA 800 could have been shot down." In addition to receiving
eyewitness accounts of a "flare-like object" zooming toward the plane
shortly before the explosion, the engineer was permitted to inspect the
assembled debris from the crash. He has also been "in contact with
military labs where, he says, the chemists have been unable to make jet
fuel vapor explode"; this undermines the official explanation provided
by the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB), which maintains
that fuel vapor in the ill-fated plane’s center fuel tank somehow
ignited. The engineer concludes that there is a "70-percent chance" that
the plane was shot down by a shoulder-launched missile.

Mystery Boat

The July 12th issue of the New York Observer referred to a mysterious
"30-knot track," the radar signature of a boat "that was the closest
vessel to the 747 when it exploded and that then headed out to sea on a
beeline from right under the burning wreckage." In the immediate
aftermath of the crash, the "mystery boat" headed directly out to sea on
a south-southwest course, "even as other boats rushed to the crash to
help out," explained the Observer account. "It was nearly 9 o’clock at
night, not the usual time for an excursion."

The "30-knot track" is particularly intriguing to retired Navy Commander
William S. Donaldson, a former Judge Advocate General investigator who
has conducted inquiries into 12 Navy air crashes. Upon viewing the data,
"I looked at that and said, ‘Wow, what is that guy doing leaving the
scene?’ And of course I assumed he was identified." However, when he
asked FBI agent Steve Bongardt whether investigators were able to
interview the occupants of every boat in the region of the crash,
Commander Donaldson was told that the question couldn’t be answered
without clearance "from a higher authority."

"It would seem that even the FBI secretly regarded the 30-knot track as
suspicious," said the Observer. "For six months, the government
conducted a $5.5 million trawling operation of the waters surrounding
the crash, using scallop boats. Commander Donaldson obtained documents
left by the FBI on one scalloper, showing that the FBI was specifically
looking for shoulder-fired Stinger missile parts — notably a Stinger
ejector motor — in what the FBI called a ‘possible missile launch zone’
2.7 miles from the crash. That circle included the mystery boat." The
FBI also seized some boats to inspect their floorboards for burns
typical of backwash from a shoulder-fired rocket. However, investigators
have been singularly incurious regarding the unidentified fleeing boat.

"If it’s a legitimate criminal investigation, with a possibility of 230
homicides," observes Commander Donaldson, "how do you close the
investigation when you haven’t identified the boat that was within
missile firing range? To me that’s egregious. I don’t see how you
justify it."

The FBI’s indifference regarding the "mystery boat" becomes even more
inexplicable in light of the account provided by a witness identified as
Lou Desyron. As previously reported in these pages (see "What Happened
to TWA 800?" in our October 14, 1996 issue), Desyron told ABC News that
"we saw what appeared to be a flare going straight up. As a matter of
fact, we thought it was from a boat." (Emphasis added.)

Prime Suspect

The July 16th USA Today, published on the eve of the tragedy’s third
anniversary, reported that Bill Clinton "was ready to strike back at
Middle East terrorists if they could be linked to the explosion of TWA
Flight 800," but that no strike occurred because "the FBI never made the
connection." According to Associated Press correspondent Pat Milton,
author of In the Blink of an Eye: The FBI Investigation of TWA Flight
800, one of the chief suspects was renegade Saudi terrorist financier
Osama bin Laden, who is su

[CTRL] Lobster Reviews This Blessed Plot

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from alt.conspiracy
-
As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
-
Lobster Reviews This Blessed
Plot
-
Subject: Lobster Reviews This Blessed Plot
From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 05 August 1999 06:45 AM EDT
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

For those who don't know it there is no other political analysis from
the view of the left which is better than Lobster. Robin Ramsay editor.
6 pounds sterling a year - latest issue number 37
available from Lobster - 214 Westbourne Avenue Hull HU5 3JB
tel - 01482 - 447558 - e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here is an important book review - I understand from a telephone call
tonight that Young's book is on sale remaindered in London for 6.99
and that some of us should get it and raise hell with it as it contains
much information helpful to our cause.  Lobster 37 also has a scathing
review of Blair's first two years - all predicted in Lobster 33 which is
on sale as a back issue so you can verify his claims and encryption on
the internet.  Highly recommended:  I suggest you buy the book before
Blair bans it.


THIS BLESSED PLOT: BRITAIN AND EUROPE FROM CHURCHILL TO BLAIR
HUGO YOUNG - MACMILLAN 1998 20 POUNDS

I cannot stand Hugo Young.  He is a long - winded, pompous arsehole
whose columns in the Guardian are mostly a waste of paper and ink.  But
he has his uses, notably as a mouthpiece for the Foreign Office.  In
this book he has revealed in infinitely greater detail than before the
way the British Foreign Office conspired - yes conspired - to get
Britain into the EEC/EC/EU.

This is a book the like of which the Europhobes and sceptics can hardly
have dreamed would ever get written by a Europhile insider like Young -
but here it is, chapter and verse on how it was done and by whom.  I
guess by calling this a "blessed plot" Young thinks he is diminishing by
making ironic the conspiratorial content.  If so he has misjudged it.
The book shows that in almost all particulars the Eurosceptics have been
correct in their accounts of what was going on - who was doing what ,
why, and to whom; and in their analysis of the economic consequences of
membership of the EEC/EC/EU.

In summary: a small group at the centre of the British state, fronted by
a disparate group of politicians, few of whom had any idea of what was
at stake, have pushed British membership of the EEC/EC/EU regardless of
the economic consequences; and have accomplished this by stealth and
lying.  Young, of course, can't quite bring himself to write of lying
and he gives us a variety of euphemisms [ EUphamisms - pw!]
* deceptive reassurance p.293
* conspiracy of silence p.251
* near duplicityp.249
* disguisingp.248
* Ministers did not lie but they avoided telling the whole truth p.247
  Disguising, for example comes in this sentence:

"This disguising was part of an intensely political process. Only by
sweetening the truth about national sovereignty, apparently, could
popular support be kept in line"

Inside this book is a striking essay on the relative power within
Whitehall of the big departments.  We tend to assume these days that the
Treasury carries the biggest stick.  Not so.  Young shows that the
Treasury opposed UK entry into the EEC/EC/EU at every stage:  the costs
were too high.  But entry proceeded.  There is still an "establishment"
and its core remains the Foreign Office and the City. Britain remains
locked in their imperial fantasies.

In writing this book, Young has been given access to secret Foreign
Office papers, including an in-house history of the negotiations with
the EEC.  He and his colleagues at the Foreign Office have thus driven a
coach and horses through the Official Secrets Act. somewhere, I suspect,
someone on the eurosceptic side of the argument will be putting this to
the relevant authorities.  Chances of their being a prosecution?  Nil, I
should think.

This is a very important book. As Tony Frewin would say, mandatory
reading for all grades.

--
peter

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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Will Sharlene Wilson be released??

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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Will Sharlene Wilson be
released??
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Subject: Will Sharlene Wilson be released??
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Goldman)
Date: Thu, 05 August 1999 09:30 AM EDT
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Why is Huckabee "mum"? If Sharlene gets released, what kind of "deal"
are they going to force her into?

>From www.newsmax.com

Friday July 30, 1:54 AM

  Gov. Huckabee Mum on Freedom for Clinton Cocaine
  Accuser

  A spokesman for Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has refused to
  confirm or deny Inside Cover's Tuesday report that Sharline
  Wilson, the jailed ex-drug dealer who says she witnessed Bill
  Clinton use cocaine on multiple occasions, has been
  recommended for clemency.

  Wilson drew a 31 year prison sentence in 1991 for selling
  cocaine to an undercover police officer who she says begged
  her for the drug. She was recently transferred to the
  Grimes-McPherson correctional facility in Newport, Ark. On
  Monday Inside Cover reported exclusively that a prison
  clemency board has recommended Wilson for early release by a
  margin of four to one.

  Huckabee press liaison Jim Harris told Inside Cover on
  Wednesday:

  "Sharline Wilson applies annually for the Governor to commute
  her sentence to time served. And the Post Prison Transfer
  Board, which is essentially the parole board, may have made a
  recommendation to that effect but the Governor is not bound
  to follow it. He has not announced any decision regarding
  Sharline Wilson. But he has turned her down in the past."

  Harris said Huckabee turned Wilson down in 1998 but could not
  say whether the Post Prison Transfer Board had handed up a
  similarly strong recommendation for early release at the
  time. Until Gov. Huckabee makes a decision on Wilson's appeal
  this year, Harris said he would be unable to comment on
  specifics, such as the reportedly lopsided PPTB vote in her
  favor.

  "Usually I wouldn't see that information untill we're ready
  to make an announcement," said Harris, adding, "The Governor
  strongly believes that all requests should stand on their own
  merit."

  Under Arkansas law, Gov. Huckabee has 121 days from the date
  of the PPTB's ruling to make a decision. The precise date of
  Wilson's clemency hearing could not be learned, though she
  told one source with whom she's been corresponding regularly
  about the development only recently.

  Without elaborating, the source said he suspects that Wilson
  is now especially eager to win her freedom because of recent
  prison harassment.

  Calls to PPTB chairman Leroy Brownlee on Wednesday and
  Thursday went unreturned.

  Sharline Wilson's case is well known to Gov. Huckabee's
  aides. Harris recognized the name instantly, adding, "She
  goes on talk radio in California for some reason and gets
  people out there riled up. Then they call us with all sorts
  of information."

  No fewer than four eyewitness accounts link Clinton to
  cocaine use. Wilson herself has told reporters that she sold
  two grams of cocaine to Clinton's brother Roger, who shared
  the drug with the then-Governor as she watched. She testified
  about the episode before a federal grand jury in 1990.

  Former Clinton girlfriend Sally Perdue has described
  occasions where Clinton would come to her home and use the
  drug. "He had all the equipment set up like a real pro," she
  said.

  Former Arkansas state trooper L.D. Brown recently revealed
  another Clinton cocaine moment for his book, "Crossfire:
  Witness in the Clinton Investigation". While guarding the
  then-Governor on a trip to Boca-Raton, FL, Brown says Clinton
  disappeared into a restaurant restroom in order to snort the
  drug.

  And an Arkansas police surveillance video shows Roger Clinton
  telling his dealer, "Got to get some for my brother. He's got
  a nose like a vacuum cleaner."

  In 1992, Clinton operative Cody Shearer unearthed convicted
  bomber Brett Kimberlin, who claimed Indiana prison
  authorities were preventing him from airing his accusation
  that he'd sold Vice President Dan Quayle a marijuana
  cigarette while Quayle was in college.

  The press descended like a swarm of locusts, making Kimberlin
  an overnight media darling. Only years later would reporters
  acknowledge that Kimberlin likely fabricated the charge.

  Though it's been in the public domain since at least 1996,
  Sharline Wilson's far more credible allegation has been
  ignored by journalists, some of whom now demand to know
  whether George W. Bush has ever used cocaine.

  Wilson has encouraged friends to contact Gov. Huckabee on her
  behalf. The email address given in Tuesday's report was
  incorrect.






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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Happening On The Sides Of Mt. Shasta.

[Kris Millegan]

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Om
K
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Happening On The Sides Of Mt.
Shasta.
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Subject: Happening On The Sides Of Mt. Shasta.
From: "John F. Winston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 05 August 1999 09:57 AM EDT
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Happening On The Sides Of Mt. Shasta.  Aug. 4, 1999.

  Here is some information from my friend, Louise Of Shastina.
Lake Shastina is a small community just about 10 miles North of
Mt. Shasta and Mt. Shasta is a mountain just off of Highway 5
about 73 miles North of Redding, Calif. in Northern Calif.  Shastina
is also the name of the smaller of two peaks that make up the
mountain, Mt. Shasta.  Mt. Shasta is also the name of a small town
just on the East side of Highway 5 on the sides of Mt. Shasta, the
mountain.  The town Mt. Shasta is also called Mt. Shasta City.

,
.

--- Louise Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The Day of the Lord - Solar Eclipse, - Grand Cross Configuration,
- August 11, 1999

*  On August 11 on Mt. Shasta, the Lightworkers of this area are
preparing to go on the mountain to honor this greatest event in the
history of this planet.
*  A large group of us is preparing to meet at the "ski bowl" at
5:30 am., for a two hour sunrise ceremony.  (JW The place where the
old ski bowl used to be is up a paved road that comes out of the
city of Mt. Shasta in an Eastern direction for about 13 miles.) * Then
at the Sandflat area, (JW  Sandflat is an open area on the sides of
Mt. Shasta where there are no trees on about 100 acres.  It is off
the road to the left before you get to Panther Meadows.) * there will
be a day of celebration for our personal victory and ascension, and
the victory of the planet, from sun up to sun down with meditations,
speakers, prayers, singing and dancing.

* If you decide to come and join the crowd, bring a sack lunch and
plenty of drinking water, as there is no natural drinking water
available at Sandflat.  Also bring a hat to protect from the sun.

* Archangel Michael, in His latest message of July 19/99, stated that
this day of August 11 is a day of such importance and magnitude for
the planet and humanity, that we should really consider it as the
long, long, prophesied and awaited "Second Coming ". It is not a
physical coming of course, "not yet", but it is the opening of the
portal of the Christ consciousness and the Christ grid for the planet
and for all of us. This day will denote the beginning of our
dimensional shift, and we have been assured that the world and
humanity will never be the same again. Each one on this planet will
receive their own initiation according to their level of spiritual
preparedness for this awesome event.  From that day forward, events
and changes on this planet will start accelerating at a pace that we
cannot yet imagine with our third dimensional mind at this time. We
will soon witness some major changes in all areas of life here and in
the structure of our society.  Be prepared for the eventual collapsing
of the old paradigm and the old system. Let it go and make room for
the new.

*  Archangel Michael stated that all our emotions will be greatly
amplified from that day on, negative ones as well as positive ones.
He assured us that it is a great day of rejoicing and asked us to
remain in love, in peace, in harmony and in trust of the process. If
we choose fear over love, these emotions will be greatly amplified as
well, and it will make the transition and the shift much more
difficult for those who will be making this choice. I ask all of you
to start "now" to choose love in every moment of your lives and let
go of all fears, no matter what form they take. Lets go with the flow,
lets open up our hearts and minds to the great, great changes that
are soon coming. The changes we have been hearing about since we have
been born, are now at our doorstep, ready to be manifested.

*  There is no one more excited, happy and joyous about this time of
great changes than I, and I ask you to get contaminated with this same
excitement and joy as well.
*  There is nothing to fear, the time of our deliverance on this planet
is now at hand, and will be gradually manifesting within the next few
months in a greater and greater mode of acceleration.

*  The Lemurian Brotherhood under Mt. Shasta have let me know that they
are preparing to come out very soon, and they are very excited about
this as well.
 We can expect to start having some physical contacts with them in the
year 2000. They will start making contacts with those who have a direct
mission with them first before they start showing themselves more
publicly.

*  Wherever you are, be in peace and prepare all you can for this
wonderful day, less than two weeks away! Also, be in total Gratitude
for the divine grace that is being accorded at this time to this
planet

[CTRL] [4] Were We Controlled?

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Were We Controlled?
Lincoln Lawerence©1967
University Books, Inc.
New Hyde Park, N. Y.
---
A very interesting book. A bit of a hard read at the beginning, but then, the
author(a psuedonymn) is covering some hard to grasp subjects. One thing to
notice is that the operation( or at least parts of it ) began before even JFK
was elected. Also there are very many interesting facts and theories
presented. And for those with questions about Bunge corporation, it is
discussed also.
--
This book has recently been reissued in an annotated version, with much
additional material, Highly reccommended.
MIND CONTROL, OSWALD & JFK: Were We Controlled?
by Kenn Thomas
Adventures Unlimited Press
POB 74 Kempton, IL 60946

Om
K
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10.
Jack Ruby

   Although he was R.H.I.C. programmed not to talk, Lee Oswald's very
presence . . . should he be caught alive . . . represented the greatest
single danger to The Group.

   To insure that there was available to them a murder instrument which could
eliminate him, they sought out an assassin's assassin.

   Was the late Jack Ruby the perfect choice in Dallas? From almost every
angle, he was.
   He had a dyed-in-the-wool "tough guy" background. He was familiar with the
business of handling a revolver. As a cafe owner, he had followed the prudent
course of making and keeping friends in the Police Department. These
friendships were numerous and in some cases surprisingly deep. Jack Ruby was
a man who could, at least in the center of town, pass through police lines.
His familiar face was his "police press card". In short, if anyone could
(without attracting undue attention) reach the areas where Lee Oswald would
be questioned or held, should he be taken into custody, it was Jack Ruby.

   The Group found it easy to contact Ruby. Almost anyone who bought liquor
in his clubs could meet him if they went about it carefully enough. The Group
was careful!

Jack Ruby was to be R.H.I.C.-controlled to kill Lee Harvey Oswald upon
instruction.
   Perhaps the only major slip in the entire plot occurred in dealing with
Ruby.

   We must presume that, at this later period, a greatly simplified procedure
for R.H.I.C. processing had been developed which The Group felt they
themselves could administer in the United States.

   Following this line, we would then assume that on a given occasion, Ruby
was placed under hypnosis... perhaps at a party or perhaps by some
"performer" who was pretending to offer a casual audition for the Carousel
Club—but in any case, without Ruby's knowledge.

   When under hypnosis he was duly processed by a newer method of scalp
injection that would render him subject to radio manipulation. It was, of
course, done without the careful charting of the cerebral area that was
possible during Oswald's hospital stay.

   Was it done incorrectly? Was the lack of skill in handling Ruby later to
become obvious? Perhaps it resulted in brain damage.

   Compounding the problem was the fact that the hypnotic state Ruby was
placed in was not handled correctly and the experience was almost like a
disagreeable hallucinatory experience that was to disturb his conscience in
the days and years to come.

   The most important error however was on the surface, a simple and
seemingly innocuous oversight.

   After he was placed under the hypnotic spell, and while they were
preparing him for application, the people in the room were talking. They were
talking. . . evidently among themselves while passing time. . . waiting for
the completion of the treatment.

   Ruby's hypnotic state, while it defied a number of ordinary hypnotists'
tests performed on him, was not as deep as it should have been. As a result,
Ruby somehow grasped and kept in some corner of his memory what they said.
This knowledge has been plaguing him ever since. He is aware of the facts, he
became aware of them while under treatment, but he does not quite realize
where he got them.

   The conversation he overheard was evidently between two members of The
Group . . . speculating perhaps on the worldwide possibilities of mass
behavior control . . . possibilities that revealed the kind of dreams of
dictatorial glory that Adolf Hitler dreamed.

   Jack Ruby, as has been often noted, was very aware of the fact that he was
Jewish. A complex, and in some ways a very sensitive man, he felt strongly
about his religion and the problems of his "people".

What they said (while they thought he was unable to comprehend) may have so
disturbed his subconscious that it affected his conscious mind sufficiently
for him later to remember this conversation.

   This was the Achilles Heel of The Group's operation, as we shall see.

   Under hypnosis, Jack Ruby was carefully programmed to set his mind to the
task of shooting Lee Harvey Oswald . . . should Oswald ever "do anything to
President Kennedy." Over and over this thought was implanted while he was
under hypnosis. Every time the radio controls were appl

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Queer Beer and Corporate"Gays" [homos]

[YnrChyldzWyld]

 -Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bard wrote:
>
>"The Fortune 500 [heteros] are courting the gay [homo] consumer as never

Who says that the Fortune 500 are 'heteros'?

You would be surprised at the number of gays who preside on the executive
boards of major banks and corporations


June ;-)

*===*
  Kite

So many things you want to see
And as you ask I'll set you free
But as you fly
You'll touch the sky
And touch the heart
Within me

  Fly away.


-- Bob Childs
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STRATFOR.COM
Global Intelligence Update
August 5, 1999

U.S. Still Interested in Panamanian Bases

Summary:

At a public appearance in David, Panama on August 1, President-
elect Mireya Moscoso denied she had discussed continued access to
bases in Panama with U.S. officials.  According to the Panamanian
newspaper La Prensa, Moscoso said trade issues were the only
topics discussed.  However, if the meeting dealt solely with
trade issues, what explains the presence at the talks of General
Charles Wilhelm, commander of the U.S. Southern Command? The
answer may be that the U.S. has not completely abandoned all hope
of using bases built in Panama.

Analysis:

While speaking in David on August 1, President-elect Mireya
Moscoso said she had not discussed allowing the U.S. continued
access to bases in Panama past December 31, 1999 with U.S.
officials.  According to La Prensa, Moscoso met with a group of
unnamed U.S. congressmen and General Charles Wilhelm, commander
of the U. S. Southern Command.  Moscoso did not deny that the
meeting took place, she merely said the meeting focused "solely
on trade matters."

Even leaving aside the issue of the Panama Canal, Panama has been
vital to U.S. interests in Latin America as an integral part of
its drug interdiction efforts.  The existing infrastructure at
Howard Air Force Base (AFB) and its geographic location made
Panama an ideal site for counter-narcotics (CN) operations.  The
piecemeal replacements for Howard AFB -- including a base in
Aruba blocked by Venezuelan airspace restrictions, radar
installations in Central America able to detect but not interdict
traffic, and militarily risky increased presence in drug-
producing countries -- do not make up for the loss of the
Panamanian base.  For the last several years the U.S. has tried
to negotiate a deal with the Panamanian government that would
allow the U.S. to maintain a continued presence in the Canal
Zone.  Efforts seemed to intensify the closer it got to December
31, 1999, the date all U.S. troops must be out of Panama.
However, discussions on setting up a multi-national counter-
narcotics center (MCC) at Howard AFB seemed to break down
completely last year.  Both sides said it was doubtful the MCC
would come about.  Now, with a new president preparing to take
office on September 2, there may yet be hope for the MCC.

Although Moscoso was against a continued U.S. presence during the
presidential campaign, so were the other three candidates.  The
reversion of the Canal Zone to Panamanian control is a very hot
nationalistic issue.  Only a fool would campaign on the promise
of allowing the U.S. to retain control of any portion of the
Zone.  However, Moscoso did open the door to the possibility of
joint U.S.-Panamanian anti-narcotics patrols.  It is unclear what
this would involve, but it seems to indicate a willingness to at
least discuss the issue.  Now that Moscoso has won the election
and is ready to take office, there might be room to negotiate.

During testimony on Capitol Hill on June 22, Senator Paul
Coverdell told his fellow legislators that Moscoso has gone on
record as saying she would be "willing to negotiate some type of
continued U.S. military presence." Coverdell also criticized the
current U.S. administration for not continuing efforts to
maintain some kind of presence in such a strategically important
location.  U.S. officials such as Senate majority leader Trent
Lott and House Speaker Dennis Hastert called for more talks with
the Panamanian government after the May 2 presidential elections.
It is clear that there are officials in the U.S. that still
support establishing a MCC in Panama.  The presence of Wilhelm at
a meeting with Moscoso and U.S. congressmen suggests that the
meeting did not focus entirely on trade issues, unless of course
the trade in question was to be interdicted.

There is no official acknowledgement that the U.S. and Panama are
involved in negotiating a continued military presence or the

Re: [CTRL] Endocrine Disrupters (reply part 1)

[piper]

 -Caveat Lector-

Do I hear Monsanto (MS No Nato),
and give me a
Home School Legal Defense Fund
a
CHADD (children and adults with attention depisit disorder)
-- courting of homosexuals (lesibians) even to the extent
of someone putting out that Chelsie is suspected of being
a lesbian.
Why - look for an overseas article about infants developing brests
I heard of it - supposivly they put the picture of the infant
on the front cover and it caused a major contraversy overseas.

**  Does anyone want to fill in any more blanks like
Dioxion tests
Monsanto Water control
Deep injection wells of hazardous chemicals
some people thinking that they can stay around with clonned
bodies for hundrends of years - need to get rid of some of the
new kids to do that of course.
HOW
Well Hitler was a ding bat - by the time of WW1 and 2
people like me and you had already been taken care of
who was Hitler shelling for?  Parts of - -
Yale

Tarpley, Webster G. & Anton Chaiktin.
"The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush" 1992. 15 Apr. 99 <
"http://www.radix.net/~tarpley/bushb.htm#Table" >or the new link at
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
This book follows the Bush family connections
from 1914 to the present. From the time of George's grandfather,
Samuel P. Bush, the Bush family has attempted
to stay involved in politics. The book seems to show that since
the family could not rate by having royal blood
lines (that rate) or by having a high degree of education, that they would try
to control by a philosophy of "The one with
the most money makes the rules." They believe in "racial cleansing"
and have cultivated people like Adolph Hitler.

Ewall, Mike. "It's no accident that Coors is
the right beer in America." Corporate Accountability Project 12 Dec.
1995. 15 Apr. 1999 < http://www.corporations.org/coors/index.html >
Mike Ewall's article Should be titled "The Other
Adolph, Adolph Coors of Coors beer." This article details Coors
connections with Ex-President Bush and how
Coors and Bush both have a policy of "Racial
Cleansing." Coors is
anti-environmental, anti-gay and seemingly
against anything and anyone that stands in their way of making
money.

Rockefeller Drug Censor Empire
< ftp://ftp.tetrahedron.org/pub/Rockefeller_Drug_Censor_Empire.txt >

Das GOAT wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
>  It's been thoroughly documented by now that estrogen-mimicking chemicals
> in the environment (human beings are awash in them) are causing gender role
> reversals, loss of interest in sex and/or sterility, and weakening of the
> immune system in fish, reptiles, amphibians, and mammals.  The "big news" in
> today's headlines is that Establishment Science is finally admitting that the
> same effects COULD occur in human beings (being mammals TOO) -- but
> Establishment Science refuses to extrapolate further, insisting that it dare
> not draw any conclusions until after ANOTHER GENERATION of study ...
>  In many newspapers, that situation is being "spun" to sound as if the
> link between certain sexual abnormalities in human beings and environmental
> pollution has now been DISproven, or "is NOT PROVEN," at minimum.  But that
> is NOT the case -- quite the opposite, when you read the fine print -- if the
> newspaper hasn't selectively omitted it.
> It's just that, frankly, the scientific community is FREAKING OUT at the
> implications.
>
> Some Chemical Exposure OK for Humans
>
> By H. JOSEF HEBERT
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) - While adverse health impacts cannot be ruled out, there is
> insufficient evidence to suggest that exposure to hormone-disrupting
> chemicals will produce additional cancers or infertility, a scientific panel
> says.
>
> The panel of the National Academy of Sciences in a report issued Tuesday
> emphasized that more research was needed about the possible harmful effects
> from exposure to these chemicals known as ``endocrine disrupters.''
>
> The academy's 16-member research panel said that while it was clear that
> exposure to the chemicals at high concentrations could adversely affect
> wildlife and human health, ``the extent of harm caused ... in concentrations
> that are common in the environment is debated.''
>
> Environmentalists and a large number of health experts have argued that there
> was growing evidence that a wide range of synthetic chemicals affect estrogen
> levels and even at low doses could lead to cancers, neurological problems and
> infertility.
>
> As a result, the Environmental Protection Agency has directed a massive
> screening of more than 15,000 chemicals to try to determine what is the
> greatest risks from human's exposure to these agents in the environment. The
> screening and tests, which will be conducted by industry, is expected to take
> three or four years.
>
> Some researchers have cautioned that these compounds at low doses over many
> years may increase breast cancer, a decline in sperm counts and reproductive
> disorders in males.
>
> But the academy's research committee found as yet no 

Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

[YnrChyldzWyld]

 -Caveat Lector-

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>
>where ??? :) can you get some some phone numbers ?

This response reminds me of a rape prevention workshop I attend more than
20 years ago...a cop recounted how rape wasn't just a crime perpetated
against women by men, but that recently (which would have meant sometime
in the early 1970s) there had been a series of 'rapes' in the
Philadelphia area, where a very good looking woman seduced unwitting
males...

The cop was quick to add "Now, before you men in the audience say 'Bring
her on!', let me add that this woman had a male accomplice who would come
into the bedroom during the height of passion and castrate the male
victim"

Andrew's response also belies the common misperception that rape has to
do with sex, when in reality it deals with power and coercion...


June ;-)

*===*
  Kite

So many things you want to see
And as you ask I'll set you free
But as you fly
You'll touch the sky
And touch the heart
Within me

  Fly away.


-- Bob Childs
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Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

[YnrChyldzWyld]

 -Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, William Shannon wrote:
>
><<
>  College men nearly as likely as women to report
>  they are victims of unwanted sexual coercion
>
>  The stereotypical picture of men as the perpetrators and women as
>  the victims of acquaintance rape and other forms of unwanted sexual
>  contact appears to be slightly out of focus >>
>
>
>Oh SURE! Unless the broad is as ugly as a horse OR the guy is a
>queen, this is ABSURD!!  Did Ms. Schalfly put this BS out???

The article stressed that the questionaire was 'sexually neutral', so my
guess is that at least some of the men reporting unwanted sexual
attention were being hit on by other men

Altho I've heard some guys claim they had sex with females who
'pressured' them, because the guys said they felt that if they didn't,
their 'manhood' would be questioned


June ;-)

*===*
  Kite

So many things you want to see
And as you ask I'll set you free
But as you fly
You'll touch the sky
And touch the heart
Within me

  Fly away.


-- Bob Childs
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