Re: [CTRL] Clinton aides 'destroying' evidence before Jan. 20
-Caveat Lector- All they need to do is either A) Switch the drives with new ones, and copy any individual markers etc on them or B) Use an emp or strong magnet and stuff the drives. With the technology nowadays, anything on a hard drive can be retrieved even after multiple reformats. No doubt the advanced stuff the NSA has is far more effective, and we can expect every year or so the technology to leapfrog forward so anyone with access to the drives can retrieve anything which was ever on them, including keystrokes and encryption. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:20:15 -0500 T Nohava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21333 >White House 'wiping clean' >computer hard drives >Judicial Watch gets tip Clinton aides 'destroying' evidence before Jan. 20 > > > > >By Paul Sperry >© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com > >The White House is rushing to "wipe clean" the hard drives of computers used >by President Clinton's aides before the Jan. 20 changeover, a >public-interest law firm claims. > >Normally, when employees leave the White House, computer workers take a >snapshot of the contents of their hard drives and store them as part of >official records, as required by law. Then they reformat the hard drives for >the next users. > >But according to Judicial Watch, Inc., political aides have ordered computer >workers to first run the hard drives through a software program by the firm >Jetico, called B.C., or Best Crypt, which "wipes clean the drives so the >next administration can't retrieve any files." > >"They're starting with [the hard drives of] the most important people >first -- the [White House] lawyers -- and working their way down," said >Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "And they're working through the >weekend." > >He added: "It's the equivalent of burning records, according to our >sources," who are White House employees. > >The records are key to Judicial Watch's Filegate lawsuit against the White >House. General counsel Larry Klayman said he passed the tip on to U.S. >District Judge Royce Lamberth late Friday. > >Calls to the White House were not returned by deadline. > >Fitton said Clinton aides Mark Lindsay and Michael Lyle are heading up the >project -- which is being carried out by Charles Nash, a supervisor in the >White House's records management unit. > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- A few months back I was spectating at the speaker's forum in the city. The speaker asked, rhetorically, 'What's wrong with the education system?' at which I leapt up and started yelling 'The problem with our education system is that it's producing a bunch of panty-waist nancy boys! We shoudl have compulsory rifle shooting and karate lessons for all boys at all levels!'. SOmeone said 'What about girls?' and I said that it won't be compulsory for them but they can do it if they want. Maybe we need something like the East German education system. Most parents aren't really suited to raising children anyway. Once they get to six or seven years old, put them in a home where they can be educated by professionals full time and they will be ready for the workforce or higher education years ahead of the Western children. Similarly those unsuited to education can be easily determined within a few years and sent to work in unskilled jobs labouring, mining, cutting down trees, pumping gas etc. The savings will be enormous. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:52:27 -0700 hollie thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >I think we should blamae the parnets of these fat kids how hard it is to >limit TV and time on the puter and take a kids hand and go for a walk >threw away doom and throw a ball with your kid >- Original Message - >From: "Johannes Schmidt III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:22 PM >Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids > > >> -Caveat Lector- >> >> I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake >etc. makes you feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only >a mental illusion and you don't get much real exercise from it at all. >Playing on a computer for 6 hours may give you a headache and feel >exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn less calories than a >15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while playing with >computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat. >> >> TV doesn't help either. >> >> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >> == >> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing >propagandic >> screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are >> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- >> directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups >with >> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and >thought. >> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and >> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no >> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. >> >> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. >> >> Archives Available at: >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html >> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl >> >> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >> SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Om > >http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic >screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are >sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- >directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with >major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. >That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and >always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no >credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > >Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >Archives Available at: >http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > >To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Om > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many hal
[CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN says
-Caveat Lector- June, You are right that any admission of being "unhappy" is coming to be viewed as a mental illness. I have also read of the return of electro-shock therapy which, to me, is appalling. I think anybody receiving this treatment would never again complain of being unhappy whether they were or not for fear of a repeat of the treatment. There was something in the UN documents concerning this and all people having a "right" to "treatment" and I wondered at the time if it meant electro-shock therapy as that seems to pretty well erase everything personal from one's memory. We had better be very careful about how we complain in the future! And the day may come when we also have the right to be released from physical pain through euthanasia. With the UN/NWO view of the world as grossly overpopulated, guess we had better state we are hap, hap happy! at all times lest our "rights" be enforced upon us. Amelia > > - Original Message - > From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN > says > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > What bothers me ( I shan't say 'distresses' me, since > agencies like WHO will construe that to mean I am > > suffering from a psychological disorder) is that no > attempt is being made to differentiate between clinical > > depression -- which SHOULD be treated with meds -- and a > natural reaction to one's circumstances. > > > > We now live in a world where any emotion deemed 'negative' > is also deemed a pschological condition that > > warrants draconian intervention by the medical and > pharmaceutical establishments. This is aided and abetted > > by the Boomers, who grew up expecting, and then demanding, > instant gratification. > > > > Unhappy that you are stuck in a dead-end job? Don't blame > yourself for being too lazy to extend the effort to > > do what is necessary to change careers; rather, get > yourself a bottle of DammitAll yellow, for that 'golden > > nothing-at-all' feeling... > > > > Do your kids get on your nerves? Don't dismiss it as just > a phase of growing up, and under no circumstances > > look internally to assess whether your own parenting > skills leave much to be desired. No, now parents can > > assure that their little Janies and Johnnies don't act up > or sass back, by making sure that little Janie and > > Johnnie are evaluated by the school medicos and duly > prescribed any range of medications to make little Janie > > and Johnnie pliable and easy to control. After all, what > authority figure wants to admit that they themselves > > may be making the children in their care 'depressed'? > > > > And when your children and your childrens' peers start > killing themselves, perhaps taking a few companions > > along with them, blame it on society, blame it on the > music they listen to, blame it on the video games they > > play, blame it on everything and anything, except > yourselves. > > > > > > So let's start medicating into oblivion all those who are > unhappy with the status quo (remember how the > > Soviets used to throw all dissidents into mental > hospitals?)...it is easier to deem someone who is > 'depressed' > > because they live amongst poverty and disease as suffering > from a mental disease, and remove the 'depression' > > via drugs, than spend the time, effort, and money in > removing the CAUSE of such emotion... > > > > So beware of articulating too stridently your unhappiness > with the government and/or the society it is bring > > about, because soon that will be deemed 'proof' of your > suffering a mental disease (after all, you are > > admitting being unhappy about something), and you will be > forced to take meds to remove the feeling of > > unhappiness, or to be 'put away for the benefit of > society'... > > > > > > June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] sen
Re: [CTRL] Review Shows Minor Gain for Bush
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/01 12:32:42 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At least 2,257 ballots were cleanly but inaccurately punched > in odd-numbered holes that corresponded to none of the 10 > presidential candidates on the ballot. The 653,963 > Miami-Dade ballots used only even-numbered holes for the > presidential race. Interesting that this article leaves out important information that is in the Palm Beach Post's own story: http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/today/news_2.html "But at least 2,257 voters apparently poked at their ballot cards without properly inserting them into the voting machines. Miami-Dade County Elections Supervisor David Leahy said that's because the voters failed to follow directions. Of these miscast votes, 302 more would have gone for Gore than Bush, under Leahy's theory. " and "Pattern in mis-punches? In the Miami-Dade under-vote, the largest group of marked ballots was the 2,257 cleanly but inaccurately punched cards. During the media review, Leahy, the elections supervisor, demonstrated how many voters might have punched odd-numbered chads, which didn't correspond to any of the 10 candidates for president named on the ballot. Miami-Dade elections officials assigned only even numbers to the presidential candidates -- No. 4 for Bush, No. 6 for Gore, No. 8 for Libertarian Harry Browne and so on. Leahy showed that when punch cards were laid over the ballot booklets instead of inserted into the machine the arrow corresponding to Bush appeared to point to the No. 5 chad rather than the proper No. 4 chad. Likewise, the arrow for Gore appeared next to the No. 7 rather than the correct No. 6. The Post found 1,023 cleanly punched holes at No. 7; Leahy speculates these may have been attempts to vote for Gore. There were 721 clean punches at No. 5; these could have been attempts to vote for Bush. The Post also found 129 more odd-numbered marks that were not clean punches, such as dimpled or partly detached chads. Miami-Dade elections officials have been aware since November that a small percentage of voters wrongly punched odd-numbered chads. The Post's tally of 2,257 clean punches in the presidential column is about one-third of 1 percent of the 653,963 ballots cast in the county. " - Samantha http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Review Shows Minor Gain for Bush
-Caveat Lector- Sunday January 14 8:45 PM ET Review Shows Minor Gain for Bush MIAMI (AP) - A review of 10,600 previously uncounted ballots in Miami-Dade County showed George W. Bush (news - web sites) gaining six more votes than Al Gore (news - web sites), The Palm Beach Post reported Sunday. The newspaper counted votes that were not registered by ballot machines, or undervotes. The count included ballots ranging from those with barely hanging chads to ones that were just slightly dimpled. Two Post reporters, each paired with an elections staffer, reviewed the ballots. The review concluded that President-elect Bush would have gained 251 votes and Vice President Gore would have gained 245 votes. No overvotes, or ballots where machines detected more than one presidential vote, were counted. The review, which ended last week, also showed that 7,600 of the more than 10,000 undervotes had no mark at all in the presidential column, or in rare cases included multiple votes that could not be given to one candidate or the other. At least 2,257 ballots were cleanly but inaccurately punched in odd-numbered holes that corresponded to none of the 10 presidential candidates on the ballot. The 653,963 Miami-Dade ballots used only even-numbered holes for the presidential race. The certified final results in Miami-Dade were 328,808 votes for Gore and 289,533 for Bush, according to the Florida secretary of state's office. Bush won Florida by a 537-vote margin out of about 6 million votes cast in the state. Later this month, a research firm hired by a media group that includes the Post, The Associated Press and other news organizations will undertake an inspection of all roughly 180,000 undervotes and overvotes in the Florida presidential election. The Miami Herald is working with an accounting firm to review only the estimated 60,000 undervote ballots that were rejected in the presidential race statewide. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New BSE inquiry raises fears over milk safety
-Caveat Lector- New BSE inquiry raises fears over milk safety Jonathan Leake, Science Editor A NATIONWIDE investigation into the risk that milk could transmit BSE between cows and humans is being launched by the Food Standards Agency (FSA). The move follows private warnings from scientists that the original experiment used to declare milk safe was flawed. This weekend Professor Malcolm Ferguson-Smith, the Cambridge University geneticist who sat on the two-year BSE inquiry, criticised the agriculture ministry for not doing the necessary work. "It is astonishing that this research has not been done," he said. The new investigation coincides with fresh figures on the spread of variant CJD (vCJD), the human equivalent of BSE, showing that the number dead or dying from the disease has risen to 90. It has also emerged that the number of people aged over 50 dying from the disease has risen to six. It had been thought that it was mainly a disease of the young. The main research used to declare milk safe was published in 1995. It was based on giving milk from cows with BSE to mice, orally and by direct injection into the brain. None of the 275 mice in the research developed any sign of the disease. Although scientists say there is no evidence at present to suggest that milk is unsafe, Ferguson-Smith believes the experiment was flawed because of the species barrier that prevents BSE passing from cows to mice. This, he said, made it highly unlikely that any of the mice would have fallen ill. He said the work should also have been done in calves, adding: "This would have been a thousand times more sensitive." Tastes all right: 11-year-old Victoria Robinson, from Halifax, enjoys a glass Photograph: Bob Collier He warned that milk should be assumed to have the potential to carry infection. Pointing out that BSE spreads via the lymphoreticular system, a loose network of organs involved in the immune system, he said: "Milk contains mammary cells, cell organelles and cells from the lymphoreticular system. It therefore has the potential to transmit prion diseases." Britain consumes about 14 billion litres of milk a year, of which half is as milk or cream and the rest cheese, yoghurt and other dairy products. Tests suggest none of the processing methods could kill prions, the deformed proteins thought to cause BSE and CJD. The majority of the 1m or so animals thought to have entered the human food chain while infected with BSE were dairy cows, whose milk would have been consumed for years before they died. Most of the scientists and politicians involved in the BSE crisis have taken comfort from the fact that there is little positive evidence that prion diseases can be transmitted by mothers' milk. In Papua New Guinea, where the Fore tribe was almost wiped out by kuru, a prion disease spread by cannibalism, studies have shown that suckling children did not get the disease from their mothers. Only consumption of flesh, especially brains and other nervous tissue, seemed to pass it on. There is, however, some evidence that other prion diseases can spread through mothers' milk. In Japan, researchers tested tissues taken from a pregnant woman who died of sporadic CJD, a rare form that killed 38 people in Britain last year. They found that her colostrum - secreted in the first few days after a child is born - could pass the disease to mice. There is also a mystery over the mechanism by which calves seem to get BSE from their mothers. Some evidence suggests that they are infected in the womb and other work suggests that milk could be a cause. An FSA spokesman said the Central Veterinary Laboratories, a government agency, had been commissioned to start the research in the next few weeks. It would involve trying to infect calves known to be free of BSE with milk from diseased animals. The research will take at least three years - the time it takes cattle to incubate BSE. The spokesman said there was no evidence yet regarding milk, but added: "We have identified this project as a priority." Copyright 2001 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard terms and conditions. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Sunday Times, visit the Syndication website. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ==
[CTRL] absence of any evidence
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{I suspect Ms. Berry and the US Commission on Civil Rights
will HAVE to come up with something in order to keep their
funding high. After all, they look foolish investigating
nothing as they are doing. That is why Ms. Berry said
Kathleen Harris was laughable--to project her own foolish
appearance onto somebody else. I also wonder why the
Democrats did this thing with the felony rolls as testimony
given stated 47 of 67 county supervisors are Democrats and
not all of the supervisors even used this "purged list." I
also wonder if those supposedly concerned about
"disenfranchisement" are concerned about the whites in the
panhandle where this happened. They were likely Bush
voters. I am sure they are (NOT!) and this is not just yet
something else for whining (IS!) as the Miami Herald
examination of ballots showed a gain for Bush and not Gore.
Just depends upon who is doing a hand count how it comes
out. So having stipulated to no evidence of malice nor
intent, this is a "tempest in a teacup" and JJ Jr was on
CSPAN telling how all (his words) politics at the local
level are Democratic in the South. Brian Lamb neglected to
call him a liar even once, Radman. But this same thing
happened in JJJr's own home state so he needs to attend the
beam in his own eye before worrying about the splinter in
Florida's. IMHO. AKE}}
JAY AMBROSE: Inexcusable, but a conspiracy?
Copyright © 2000 Nando Media
Copyright © 2000 Scripps Howard News Service
Scripps Howard News Service
(December 15, 2000 11:46 p.m. EST
http://www.nandotimes.com) - It appears that some Florida
residents were incorrectly purged from voter rolls on the
suspicion that they were felons, representing themselves as
someone who had died or were mentally incapacitated. This is
an outrageous blunder. But there does not yet appear to be
any evidence to support the nearly hysterical critics now
suggesting that what happened was some sort of nefarious
Republican plot to keep blacks from voting.
Some columnists have gone so far as to suggest it was
Secretary of State Katherine Harris - described in one
article as "frothingly partisan" - who engineered the purge
through signing on a Republican-leaning company to search
out ineligible voters in the state. In fact, the state
legislature initiated the effort through statute after a
1997 Miami mayoral election in which fraud was committed.
The St. Petersburg Times points out that Harris's
predecessor, Sandra Mortham, was in office at the time the
contract was made with Data Base Technologies, a company
that later merged with ChoicePoint.
The company did make mistakes, and acknowledged as much last
summer. Company spokesmen have told reporters that they knew
errors were inevitable in the matches they did of databases
and that it was up to county officials to verify information
on the lists produced. Some counties decided not to use the
lists at all, and others tried hard to make sure those
identified as ineligible to vote were ineligible.
Some counties did not make such an effort, it seems, and
some of those showing up to vote on Election Day encountered
difficulties that in some instances reportedly kept them
from voting at all. One official has told the press that in
her county voters listed as ineligible were allowed to take
oaths that they were not felons.
The mistakes are inexcusable, an example, it would seem, of
incompetence trampling on citizen rights or of a state law
that looked to clumsy corrective measures for fraud. Perhaps
the law should be changed, and it can be argued, for that
matter, that there should be changes in the state
constitution that makes Florida one of the 14 states that
exclude felons from voting. But before the election, George
W. Bush's brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, had afforded
clemency restoring voter rights to some felons, and it is
reprehensible in the absence of any evidence to allege some
sort of GOP conspiracy to keep large numbers of minorities
from voting.
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Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids
-Caveat Lector- I think we should blamae the parnets of these fat kids how hard it is to limit TV and time on the puter and take a kids hand and go for a walk threw away doom and throw a ball with your kid - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fat Kids > -Caveat Lector- > > I blame computers and internet. Playing computer games like doom, quake etc. makes you feel like you are tired from all the exertion, but it is only a mental illusion and you don't get much real exercise from it at all. Playing on a computer for 6 hours may give you a headache and feel exxhausted enough to go to bed, but you probably burn less calories than a 15 minute walk to the 7-11. And the foods people snack on while playing with computers are almost universally high in sugar, salt and fat. > > TV doesn't help either. > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] General Colin Powell -- Is He Mr. Clean?
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Subject: General Colin Powell -- Is He Mr. Clean?
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sep 22 06:13:47 1995
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:33:16 -0500
From: Brian Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 6 Num. 08
Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 6 Num. 08
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GENERAL COLIN POWELL -- IS HE MR. CLEAN?
By Sherman H. Skolnick
[Contact: (312) 375-5741]
All across the land, the press has been playing up General COLIN
POWELL. To pile up millions of dollars for himself, he started
out with a book tour, followed by a political honeymoon. But,
don't count on the newsfakers to give you pertinent facts. Those
planning for high office are selected because they are
blackmailable.
ITEM: Some time after the Persian Gulf War, the Emir of Kuwait
gave millions of dollars to Gen. Powell, Gen. NORMAN SCHWARZKOPF,
and GEORGE BUSH. Powell got about ten million dollars in jewels,
Schwarzkopf a gold box inlaid with jewels worth about the same,
and Bush got about 20 million dollars -- none of them reported
this and made an inventory of the same, as required by the
government ethics law. Also, it is unconstitutional for U.S.
public officials to be paid for their *official* *duties* by a
foreign monarch.
ITEM: Gen. Powell, an African-American, conveniently overlooks
the fact his patrons, the royal family of Kuwait, as well as the
Saudis, keep black chattel slaves, this late in the 20th century.
By the way, was it unconstitutional for President Bush to send
black American soldiers to fight for black slave-owners, namely,
Kuwait and Saudi?
ITEM: As shown in Powell's book, he was close with Secretary of
Defense CASPAR WEINBERGER. It was Weinberger that pushed Powell
to the top of the Pentagon. In his report, independent counsel
LAWRENCE WALSH pointed out the apparent criminal complicity of
Powell in the treasonous Iran-Contra Affair. Powell in his book
denies the same.
Weinberger was indicted but prior to trial was granted a
pardon by out-going President Bush. Walsh apparently never got
around to prosecuting Gen. Powell.
ITEM: Gen. Powell was implicated in secretly cheating the
Iranians by sending them obsolete or defective TOW missiles for
which Iran paid heavily in advance. The Iranians were sore and
retaliated in 1986 by arranging to bomb an American plane over
Canada, returning from a failed hostage rescue mission. Two
hundred fifty of our troops, quite a number being black, died in
the sabotaged crash. Their ghosts should be placed at Gen.
Powell's doorstep.
ITEM: About 1985, VINCENT W. FOSTER, Jr. was the secret link
between Bush & Weinberger and JONATHAN POLLARD, a low level Naval
Intelligence analyst. Foster, on behalf of the vice president and
defense secretary, arranged for Pollard to take large quantities
of nuclear launch code secrets right out of one of the
intelligence agencies and turned over to a foreign power.
From 1983 to 1993, Foster was the equivalent of a military
general in the super-secret NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY, including
the few months he was Clinton White House deputy counsel.
Only Pollard himself was blamed for this treason. At a
hearing, Weinberger, to cover up his own complicity, wanted
Pollard to get the gallows or the firing squad. Pollard got life
in prison. Bush & Weinberger belong moreso in prison than
Pollard. Weinberger reportedly had or has a secret Swiss account
with the blood money.
Like others for high office, will Gen. Powell be selected because
he is subject to blackmail?
Also, Gen. Powell has been closely linked to a Pentagon official,
RICHARD ARMITAGE, reportedly deeply implicated with Bush in dope
trafficking from Southeast Asia.
WAS COLIN POWELL IMPLICATED IN ALL THIS TREACHERY? DOES HE KNOW
HOW and WHY FOSTER WAS MURDERED? We think so.
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Since 1963, Mr. Skolnick is founder/chairman of a public interest
group, CITIZENS' COMMITTEE TO CLEAN UP THE COURTS, researching
and investigating judicial bribery and political murders. Updates
of the group's work is on HOTLINE NEWS, of which Skolnick is
editor since 1971 -- 5 minute recorded phone commentary message:
(312) 731-1100, a regular phone call, on 24 hours/day, changed
several times per week. Since 1991, he is co-host of a hugely
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Re: [CTRL] News media and protests, part two
-Caveat Lector- News media and protests, part two By Carla Binion On C-Span2, Thursday 1/11/01, organizers of Bush inaugural protests said they expect a huge turnout of demonstrators. Media critic Michael Parenti has written that during Civil Rights protests in the 1960s, rightwing groups (including neo-Nazis) sometimes infiltrated demonstrations and acted violently, triggering police backlash against peaceful protesters. By all means, attend the protests if possible, and at the same time be alert for shenanigans. Jesse Jackson said recently that Republicans sent thugs to pose as spontaneous demonstrators in Florida. Jackson reported that the GOP ruffians violently disrupted peaceful demonstrations. Tom DeLay (R-Tx) also sent Republican operatives to Florida to pretend to be grassroots protesters. The astroturf group pounded on the doors of the Miami-Dade canvassing office and shoved innocent bystanders in an effort to suppress the vote count. The TV networks initially reported that the Tom DeLay rowdies were a grassroots group, and no network followed up and investigated Jesse Jackson's comments about the other Republican infiltrators. How will the TV networks cover protests of the Bush inaugural? A number of reputable liberal media critics have written strongly documented books on: (1) Why mainstream news media organizations (especially television networks) tend to be conservative, not liberal as Rush Limbaugh would have us believe, (2) Why TV news consistently favors corporations over average Americans, and (3) Why corporate-owned TV networks often fail to cover events that put corporations and the wealthy in a bad light. In "Rich Media, Poor Democracy," media critic Robert McChesney writes about the sparse media coverage given to last year's Seattle protest demonstrations. McChesney says: "There was no week of prime-time special reports on the cable news channels, despite the fact that what was transpiring touched on the most central political and social issues of our age. Indeed, Seattle was not given anywhere near the attention that Elian, Monica, O.J., or JonBenet gotThe sad truth is that the closer a story gets to corporate power and corporate domination of our society, the less reliable the corporate news media is." The Seattle protests were about corporate conglomerates taking important labor and environmental decisions away from the people and our elected representatives, and placing those decisions in the hands of an unelected body, the World Trade Organization. Did the mainstream media convey that fact to most Americans? For most members of the corporate-owned news media, whether a story is given saturation coverage (as O. J., Monica, JonBenet and Elian were) or virtually no coverage (as in the case of the Seattle protests) has nothing to do with the event's importance. No matter how important an event might be, any story that threatens to expose systemic flaws in the corporate domination of society receives little or no coverage. C-Span is sometimes an exception. On C-Span2 last Thursday, the organizers of the upcoming Bush inaugural protests said that over 500 law professors support the protests and will place an ad in the New York Times opposing the Supreme Court's decision to suppress the vote count. That is significant news. Will the talking heads on Fox, MSNBC, CNBC or CNN even mention it? Brian Becker of the International Action Center said on the C-Span program that Bush's selection by the Supreme Court has served as a catalyst for a new Civil Rights and mass social justice movement. Liz Butler, Coastal Rainforest Coalition National Organizer, said various activist groups share a common grievance. What the various groups have in common is that they all feel their government no longer represents average Americans, but instead serves only corporate interests. Justice Action Movement's Linda Schade said regarding the Supreme Court's selection of Bush, "The people's choice has been overruled." Mara Verhyden-Hilliard, attorney and co-founder of Partnership for Civil Justice, said among the protesters will be legal observers coordinated by the National Lawyer's Guild. The views of the various activist groups, including thousands of environmentists, Civil Rights and civil liberties advocates, concerned educators, attorneys and others, are worthy of extensive, in-depth news coverage. The issues they raise directly impact the lives of most average Americans. Will Chris Matthews or Hannity and Colmes conduct in-depth interviews with Becker or Verhyden-Hilliard or any of the professors of law protesting the Supreme Court's decision? As far back as 1988, journalist Mark Hertsgaard (On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency) wrote about the media's reluctance to cover people allegedly outside the political mainstream. Hertsgaard quotes media scholar Daniel Hallin: "Journalism becomes, to borrow a phrase from [social theorist] Talcott Parsons, a 'bou
Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian...
-Caveat Lector- well if 2 married people are in war together and have done there job for the night come on that would be exciting It Is War people and would it make it better if the husband covered his wifes mouth during the act of sex and not to wake anyone Look how many men in Vietnam let kids over there and came back to Us and i am sure they had a "no sex " ban - Original Message - From: "Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian... > -Caveat Lector- > > June wrote: > > > While the case mentioned below is regarding a married officer having sex with a fellow soldier (female) who > > was not his wife, it is interesting to see that the Canadian Army extends the 'no sex' ban to include the > > spouses of enlisted personnel... > > > So much for 'family values'... > > > Well, the case has been dismissed but that is beside the point. What > came out at trial is the rationale for the 'no sex' rule during combat > situations, which applies to homosexual, hertosexual and martial sex (if > two married soliders happened to be stationed together during a war) and > it makes sense, in that in intense situations people having sex in the > bunk next to you could be disruptive to those trying to sleep before > going out the next day to kill or be killed. Something like that. > > However, the man and woman in this case said they were watching a porno > flick and not actually engaging in sexual relations. Right! > > Kelly > > June > > > > - Original Message - > > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:58 AM > > Subject: Puritanism in Canadian Army - Sex is Bad! > > > > > > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/aa011001a. htm > > > > > > No Sex Please, We're Soldiers > > > Army Can Ban Sex > > > > > > Dateline: 01/10/01 > > > > > > A Canadian peacekeeper could be court-martialed for having sex with > > > another soldier after a military court upheld the armed force's ban on sex, > > > even between married couples. > > > > > > Air Force Corporal Jeff Montgomery's lawyer argued that the ban was > > > unconstitutional because it violated Canada's Charter of Rights and > > > Freedoms by denying soldiers the chance to form relationships. > > > > > > A military judge ruled that Canada's Armed Forces has the right to ban all > > > forms of sexual activity at overseas peacekeeping bases. Military personnel > > > and spouses are prohibited from hand-holding, flirting, being seen in the > > > quarters of the opposite sex, or any sexual activity. > > > > > > Sex Too Dangerous For Army > > > > > > "With sexual activities -- even if it is with married couples -- it could > > > lead to feelings of jealousy, even violence, feelings of favoritism and > > > disrupting the feelings of cohesion and morale," said judge Colonel Guy > > > Brais. > > > > > > Montgomery is a member of the 408 Tactical Helicopter Squadron and is a > > > 32-year-old married father of one. He is charged with "conduct prejudicial > > > to the good order of service discipline." During a a peacekeeping mission > > > in Bosnia, he allegedly bedded a 36-year-old female corporal three times in > > > four nights while his roommate tried to sleep about three feet away. > > > > > > Master Corporal Alan Warren testified that the encounters disturbed his > > > sleep. "I woke up at midnight to the sound of two people having sex in > > > Montgomery's bed," he testified Tuesday. "Springs were squeaking, there was > > > the sound of kissing and bodies slapping together and voices. After two > > > minutes, I put a Walkman on, turned it up to drown out the noise and went > > > to sleep." > > > > > > The charges resulted after Warren complained to a superior. In > > > cross-examination, Warren was accused of having his own relationship with > > > an American servicewoman in Sarajevo for which Montgomery had reproached > > > him. Warren denied fabricating the story to get even. > > > > > > Double Standard? > > > > > > Women serve in all wings of the Canadian Armed Forces but not in combat > > > roles. Their minority position in the military was ruled to be a support > > > for the fraternization ban. > > > > > > "Seven per cent of those at the camp are women, and sexual activity > > > between members could negatively affect their responsibilities," said the > > > judge. > > > > > > The woman who allegedly slept with Montgomery was not charged but the > > > military has given no explanation why. > > > > > > Chain Of Embarrassments > > > > > > The case is the latest discipline embarrassment for the Armed Forces. > > > Cases in recent years include: an officer poisoned, sexual harassment > > > cover-ups exposed, the airborne division disbanded for hazing and a public > > > inquiry into racism among peacekeepers in Somalia. > > > > > > >From Canada Newsletter > > > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/a
Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian...
-Caveat Lector- well nothing will make them happy with woman and men together seems like our goverment now seems to think woman are just fun loving thong wearing teasing little girls . . Ands maybe for 6 months on a ship in the ocean when your work is done who cares it is your private time I would think that our Navy would be happy there boys spent play\freetime with the woman and not each other, - Original Message - From: "John Cone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian... > -Caveat Lector- > > --- Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > June > Subject: Puritanism in Canadian Army - Sex is Bad! > "With sexual activities -- even if it is with married > couples -- it could lead to feelings of jealousy, even > violence, feelings of favoritism and > disrupting the feelings of cohesion and morale," said > judge Colonel Guy Brais. > > ___ > > Nakano Comments: > Judge Brais is correct. > Sexual relationships among those in the ranks > is disruptive of military cohesion and morale. > This is why women have been integrated into > formerly all-male combat unitsto undermine > their combat effectiveness. > Women have deffinite roles to play in the military. > However, it isn't in operational combat forces > and especially those with limited space and > facilities such as Navy ships and submarines. > Nakano > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- In my field we use other indicators as to climate temps over time. One of the more important being records of ice in various parts of the world. From all I have seen there is a general warming pattern for the past 14,000 years. Jayson On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:31:42 EST DIG alfred webre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >-Caveat Lector- > >Are there any comments or retorts to this controversial report? >== >LONDON TELEGRAPH Jan. 14, 2001 >Global warming claims 'based on false data' >By Robert Matthews > >FRESH doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the >discovery that a key method of measuring temperature change has >exaggerated >the warming rate by almost 40 per cent. > >Studies of temperature records dating back more than a century have >seemed to >indicate a rise in global temperature of around 0.5 ° C, with much of >it >occurring since the late 1970s. This has led many scientists to >believe that >global warming is under way, with the finger of blame usually pointed >at >man-made pollution such as carbon dioxide. > >Now an international team of scientists, including researchers from >the Met >Office in Bracknell, Berkshire, has found serious discrepancies in >these >temperature measurements, suggesting that the amount of global warming >is >much less than previously believed. > >The concern focuses on the temperature of the atmosphere over the sea, >which >covers almost three quarters of the Earth's surface. While scientists >use >standard weather station instruments to detect warming on land, they >have >been forced to rely on the crews of ships to make measurements over >the vast >ocean regions. > >Crews have taken the temperature by dipping buckets into the sea or >using >water flowing into the engine intakes. Scientists have assumed that >there is >a simple link between the temperature of seawater and that of the air >above >it. > >However, after analysing years of data from scientific buoys in the >Pacific >that measure sea and air temperatures simultaneously, the team has >found no >evidence of a simple link. Instead, the seawater measurements have >exaggerated the amount of global warming over the seas, with the real >temperature having risen less than half as fast during the 1970s than >the >standard measurements suggest. > >Reporting their findings in the influential journal Geophysical >Research >Letters, the scientists say that the exact cause of the discrepancy is >not >known. One possibility is that the atmosphere responded faster than >the sea >to cooling events such as volcanic eruptions. > >The findings have major implications for the climate change debate >because >the sea temperature measurements are a key part of global warming >calculations. According to the team, replacing the standard seawater >data >with the appropriate air data produces a big cut in the overall global >warming rate during the last 20 years, from around 0.18¡C per decade >to >0.13¡C. > >This suggests that the widely-quoted global warming figure used to >persuade >governments to take action over greenhouse gases exaggerates the true >warming >rate by almost 40 per cent. The team is now calling for climate >experts to >switch from seawater data to sea-air temperature measurements. > >One member of the team, David Parker, of the Hadley Centre for Climate >Prediction and Research at the Met Office, said that the discovery of >the >discrepancy "shows we don't understand everything, and that we need >better >observations - all branches of science are like that". Yet according >to Mr >Parker, the new results do not undermine the case for global warming: >"It is >raising questions about the interpretation of the sea-surface data." > >Even so, the findings will be seized on by sceptics as more evidence >that >scientists have little idea about the current rate of global warming, >let >alone its future rate. Climate experts are still trying to explain why >satellites measuring the temperature of the Earth have detected little >sign >of global warming - despite taking measurements during supposedly the >warmest >period on record. > >Some researchers suspect that the fault may again lie with the >ground-based >temperature measurements. They say that many of the data come from >stations >surrounded by growing urban sprawl, whose warmth could give a >misleading >figure. A study of data taken around Vienna, Austria, between 1951 and >1996 >found that the air temperature rose by anything from zero to 0.6¡C, >depending >on precisely where the measurements were made. > > __ >EcoNews Service - Always online for Exopolitics & a Universe Ecology. >EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ >Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing >propagandic >screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are >sordid mat
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: E. COLI (HAMBURGER DISEASE)
-Caveat Lector- I resemble that remark.and don't forget about hepatitis... - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: E. COLI (HAMBURGER DISEASE) Well would rather eat red worms than e coli for if you look that up it says "see defacate" and if you look that up, well I note food handlers in these fast food places seem neat and clean, but if you eve notice they go to bathrooms and do not wash their hands; once I ordered a hamberger when I ate the things and they put a lot of goop on it - I said I had ordered it plain, and the waitress in the Wendy's joint, took her fingers and pulled off the garbage on the top. A woman at the salad bar was dipping a chip into a dip, taking bite, and dipping it again. After 7 this Wendy burger place became hangout for street people - so no more fast foods for me - until the food handlers have better training and I do not like anyone spitting in my food either. Saba Public Health Facts E. COLI (HAMBURGER DISEASE) Hamburger disease is caused by a germ belonging to the family of E.coli bacteria, that produces a toxin or poison. E.coli 0157:H7 bacteria are the most serious strain of E.coli known. The toxin damages the lining of the intestine. Young children, the very old and people who are weak or ill are more susceptible to contracting hemorrhagic colitis as a result of E.coli 0157:H7. It can be found in the intestines of cattle, can be spread from person to person and it can get into the food we eat, especially meat. Outbreaks involving many people eating the same contaminated food have been reported as well as occasional cases involving only one person in a family. What are the Symptoms? After the contaminated food has been eaten, it can take as little as 12 hours or as long as 7 to 10 days before any symptoms start. Those affected will develop severe stomach cramps and then diarrhea. The diarrhea is watery at first but may become bloody. A mild fever may or may not be present. The illness usually lasts 7 to 10 days. Most people recover without problems but the disease can be more severe in the very young and very old. An unusual form of kidney failure called Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome can occur. Anyone exhibiting bloody diarrhea should call their doctor. How Do I Know I Have It? Diagnosis is made from a stool culture. The bacteria can be spread to other people through food and poor handwashing practices for as long as the bacteria is in the faeces. Therefore, it is important to submit follow-up stool samples, to make sure it is gone. Where Does it Come From? The E.coli germs have been found in pork, chicken, turkey, beef, raw milk and contaminated drinking water. Human cases of the disease have been caused by eating undercooked meat (especially hamburger) and drinking unpasteurized milk. Proper handling and cooking of these foods prevents illness. This will not only protect you against E.coli but also other germs such as Salmonella that cause food poisoning. What To Do If You Are a Confirmed Case? **AFTER USING A TOILET, wash you hands thoroughly with soap, nail brush, and hot water. Your towel and washcloth should not be used by others. The disease is spread by the faeces and after using the toilet, the germ can stay on your hands. Remember, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it is not there. **DISHES AND UTENSILS should be disinfected by using a recommended disinfectant like household bleach (e.g. Javex) or boiling water. Dishes should be washed first and then allowed to soak in a sink of clear water with 2 tablespoons of bleach for at least 45 seconds. **WASH AND DISINFECT all bathroom fixtures frequently, especially water taps, flush lever, toilet seat and cover. **LAUNDRY, particularly bedding, underclothing and towels used by the patient should be disinfected. This is extremely important if the patient is a child still in diapers or an incontinent adult (a person who cannot control their bowels). Parents and caregivers should be careful to wash their hands before diapering a child and immediately afterwards. Children ill with this bacteria should not attend daycare. **OTHER PEOPLE IN CONTACT WITH A PERSON WITH THIS DISEASE are urged to follow these recommendations closely as well. It is important that you wash your hands thoroughly because food is one of the easiest ways for these bacteria to be spread. After handling a soiled article used by the patient, the bacteria will remain on your hands and can easily be transferred to food, dishes or utensils which may be used by others. WHAT ABOUT TREATMENT? Drinking lots of clear fluids is important to prevent or treat dehydration. Most cases do not require any other treatment. Taking medication to stop the diarrhoea is not usually advised. Antibiotics are of uncertain benefit. HOW TO PROTECT YOUSELF? **WASH HANDS after using the toilet, before preparing foods and after handling raw meat. *
[CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- >Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, > >Thank you for your reply. The shape-shifters must be happy with the fine >PR-work, you are doing for them. Maybe they will bestow a membership of >some fine order upon you? > >However from the viewpoint of truth, you have not done well. Truth is >suffering. Humph. You are not interested in truth. You told everyone on this list that you used to read NEXUS until we dropped David Icke from our magazine. Obviously that is a blatant lie! You did NOT ever read NEXUS because if you did, you will have seen that we did not ever publish a single article on or by David Icke. As for your questions about Laurence Gardner - why don't you ask him? He is an ordinary guy, living in an ordinary house, with his family in the UK (No he hasn't eaten his children or wife). What is the matter? Too afraid you might find out that you and your precious David Icke are wrong about Laurence Gardner and Zecharia Sitchin being shape-shifting reptiles? Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- --- Marilyn Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Considering that much of the most > sensational school violence has occurred in Bible Belt states, The school shootings are a set up to condition the public to accept disarmament. Most of the resistance to same has been in Bible Belt states. They have the most liberal gun laws, too. The sensationalism is NOT accidental. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- --- Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a > Wheaties > box. I think it's already been done, but I'd have to double-check. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS
-Caveat Lector- --- Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's not always skunk spray you're smelling out there in the woods. > > 8^ ) Takes one to know one, Nessie! I'll leave you a tin can full of sand out in the back yard for an ashtray. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN says
-Caveat Lector- And overall intellect set to fall from toxins. Considering the amount of air born toxins from fungal sources (for one) It seems as if fungus breeds from air born spores so this makes me wonder if beneficial bacteria is in the air and at constant warfare with fungal spores. Seems as if they believe that beneficial bacteria (if that is what it is) is falling and that fungal toxins that attack the CNS are rising. Reference Problems with red tides and Pfiesteria these release air born toxins that can make you lose you memory, and everything else associated with the nervous system. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/ Go to my bib page (link on the left side of index page) and the pages that I am currently working on and long pages of citations will be found from there. Mike Switzer wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Ever read R.D. Laing? > > basically he says the only sane response to an insane world is to go > insane... > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: Samantha L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mental disorders set to rise, UN says > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 1/13/01 10:18:15 AM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > ...it is easier to deem someone who is 'depressed' > > because they live amongst poverty and disease as suffering from a mental > > disease, and remove the 'depression' > > via drugs, than spend the time, effort, and money in removing the CAUSE > of > > such emotion... > > It ironic that the WHO would issue concerns re depression when the truth > is > that life really sucks for a lot of people. IMO, the real mental illness > can > be found in those who are so "well-adjusted" in the face of such imbalances. > > Samantha > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing > propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competitio
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500, Marilyn Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six > o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of > Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian > worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of > themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but > find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. > This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on > the six o'clock news in the cities, too. I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli right wing DEMANDS no compromise with thePalestinians!!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:36:58 -0500, Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Damaeus wrote: > > > I guess neither side has figured out that God, if he resides > > anyplace, would be in the heart and not on a pile of dirt. > > I guess you haven't figured out that god isn't the big issue ( > except as motivational propaganda,) but rather TOURIST DOLLARS! Well, you're right. I never thought that they would have been arguing over that location for thousands of years just for tourist income. Maybe they could let Isreal have the mount and they could build Disney Arabia in Palestine. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Report Cites Ecological Decline
-Caveat Lector- Report Cites Ecological Decline By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS January 13, 2001 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Melting Arctic ice, dying frogs and the destruction of coral reefs are signs of a growing world ecological decline, an environment research group said in a report Saturday. Worldwatch Institute said these changes have coincided with an apparent loss of political momentum on environment issues that governments demonstrated in November when global warming talks collapsed. ``If in the current climate of political and economic uncertainty, political leaders were to roll back environmental laws or fail to complete key international agreements, decades of progress could unravel,'' said Christopher Flavin, president of the institute and co-author of its annual State of the World report. Worldwatch's 275-page report said government officials should be concerned that many global ecosystems are in danger. In addition to melting Arctic ice caused by burning fossil fuels, other environmental stresses include ``the worldwide decline of many species of frogs, salamanders and other amphibia'' due to pressures that range from deforestation to ozone depletion, the report said. Amphibians are considered a ``sort of barometer of Earth's health, more sensitive to environmental stress than other organisms,'' according to Worldwatch researchers. They also said marine biologist estimate that one-quarter of the coral reefs in the world's tropical oceans were sick or dying. In some areas of the Pacific, the figure is as high as 90 percent, posing threats to nations' income from fishing and tourism. The report says there are some signs of progress in bringing destructive environmental trends under control: --In December, negotiators from 122 countries agreed to a legally binding treaty that will severely restrict 12 persistent organic pollutants. --Iceland launched a pioneering effort to harness its geothermal and hydropower to produce hydrogen, which will be used to fuel its automobiles and fishing boats-- an effort that is attracting investments from major oil and car companies. Flavin expressed concern about what he said was the anti-environmental rhetoric of the Bush campaign during the presidential election. President-elect Bush has made drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska a major part of his energy plan and is expected to try to ease present restrictions on logging in national forests. ``The early signs are not terribly good in terms of (Bush's) ties to the oil industry and extractive industries, which have been key opponents on the climate issue,'' Flavin said. ``We'll have to wait and see what stance'' the incoming administration takes. He said the signal the United States sends on environmental issues is crucial because it has the world's largest economy and its environmental impact is second to none. ``If the United States retreats to a more defensive view of global environment threats, it would create a leadership vacuum'' that might encourage environmental groups to push the 15-nation European Union to take a more active role, Flavin said. Two weeks of international talks in the Netherlands on how to cut pollution that is warming the planet ended in failure Nov. 25, after disputes between the United States and the EU proved insurmountable. The key issue blocking agreement was whether and to what extent countries should be allowed to count the carbon dioxide absorbed by forests and farmlands toward their emissions reduction targets. Greenhouse gas emissions mostly come from burning fossil fuels for factories, power plants and cars. Carbon dioxide is a major component of the emissions. On the Net: Worldwatch Institute: http://www.worldwatch.org/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTE
[CTRL] 2000: The year in review
-Caveat Lector- http://www.gunowners.org/news/nws0012.htm www.gunowners.org Dec 2000 The Gun Owners 2000: The year in review GOA members dodge a bullet this year after hard work kills gun control by Erich Pratt It was supposed to be a done deal. "Accord near on gun bill," one headline blared on September 24, 1999. Negotiators are "close to agreement," opined the Associated Press. New gun controls were imminent. Indeed, many people thought the "fix" was in. "Members of Congress work in dread of receiving the hundreds, even thousands, of postcards, letters, and phone calls When Senator Patrick Leahy [D-VT] voted in favor of a relatively minor piece of gun-control legislation, 'we got hundreds of postcards overnight,' said a Leahy aide." -- Boston Globe, 8/7/00 Gun owners were facing new gun bans, gun owner registration and self-defense restrictions. Supposedly, there was nothing we could do. Some gun owners were even suggesting that we agree to gun control "lite" to minimize the damage. The media, those in Congress and the White House -- all of them agreed that something was going to pass. Well, that was September, 1999. More than a year later, those same experts were pronouncing the gun bill dead. What happened? What happened was that Capitol Hill felt the power of the grassroots. GOA members unleashed a torrent of postcards and letters upon Capitol Hill. Legislators were flooded with complaint after complaint. Legislative offices told Roll Call, the newspaper of record on Capitol Hill, that the collective voice of GOA members was quite loud. "Gun Owners [of America] is... much more active. They moved quickly and we heard from their people," said one House leadership source close to the juvenile crime issue. The victory over the anti-gun juvenile bill has clearly demonstrated the power that committed gun owners can have upon legislation in Congress. There is no need to retreat in the face of our opponents. We don't need to offer gun control "lite" as an alternative to the latest gun ban that Sen. Chuck Schumer wants. We don't need to compromise; we just need to organize. And that we did. Gun owners won big with the defeat of the anti- gun juvenile bill. We won big with the passage of Rep. John Hostettler's "gun owners protection act," and with the defeat of several anti-gun measures. (See article below.) This year's success gives us hope for next year. We want to press forward for even more victories. GOA will fight for concealed carry reciprocity. We will work to pass the Citizen's Self-defense Act. We want to put an end to the frivolous lawsuits against the gun industry -- lawsuits that threaten to put an end to the buying and selling of guns in this country. It is going to be a tough two years. But with your help, GOA will fight for these things. With your help, GOA will battle the compromisers who want to concede to gun bans at gun shows, to register private sales, and to impose anti-safety devices upon every handgun owner. With your help, GOA will stand against the media pundits who will beat the drums for more and more draconian restrictions. GOA can do a lot with your help. But we need you to stand with us. Thank you for supporting Gun Owners of America and making us your gun lobby. 2000 Elections: Where Do We Stand? by John Velleco The cliffhanger 2000 election is finally over, but how did gun owners fare where the battle over gun rights is most fiercely fought -- in the U.S. House and Senate? In the Senate, private gun ownership of firearms will be under attack as never before. With the addition of Senator Hillary Clinton, who joins the notoriously anti-gun Sen. Chuck Schumer as the junior senator from New York, gun owners can expect to see a flurry of anti-gun bills introduced from the opening gate. Together with Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI), who has promised to reintroduce his draconian handgun registration bill, the trio will undoubtedly set the civilian disarmament agenda for the next several years. Due to the complex rules of the Senate, one senator can bring the chamber to a halt in order to force votes on a specific agenda, something Sens. Clinton, Schumer and Reed will not hesitate to do. With the Senate basically split down the middle, conservative pro- gun Republicans will be called upon to mount numerous filibusters to fight the anti-gun agenda. Newly elected Sen. Hillary Clinton, with Sen. Charles Schumer, will immediately become an influential anti-gun leader. An unusually large number of hotly contested senate races kept many gun owners on the edge of their seats on election night. Pro-gun Senate forces suffered a setback with the defeat of pro-gun Sen. Rod Grams (R-MN), but the election of Republican Sen. John Ensign in Nevada was a marginal gain. As a House member, Ensign was rated "B" by GOA's stringent rating system. One Senate victory for gun rights was the narrow reelection of pro- gun Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT). The defeat of Sen. Spence Abraham (R-MI) could
[CTRL] WND: White House 'wiping clean' computer hard drives
-Caveat Lector- January 14, 2001 White House 'wiping clean' computer hard drives Judicial Watch gets tip Clinton aides 'destroying' evidence before Jan. 20 By Paul Sperry © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com The White House is rushing to "wipe clean" the hard drives of computers used by President Clinton's aides before the Jan. 20 changeover, a public-interest law firm claims. Normally, when employees leave the White House, computer workers take a snapshot of the contents of their hard drives and store them as part of official records, as required by law. Then they reformat the hard drives for the next users. But according to Judicial Watch, Inc., political aides have ordered computer workers to first run the hard drives through a software program by the firm Jetico, called B.C., or Best Crypt, which "wipes clean the drives so the next administration can't retrieve any files." "They're starting with [the hard drives of] the most important people first -- the [White House] lawyers -- and working their way down," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "And they're working through the weekend." He added: "It's the equivalent of burning records, according to our sources," who are White House employees. The records are key to Judicial Watch's Filegate lawsuit against the White House. General counsel Larry Klayman said he passed the tip on to U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth late Friday. Calls to the White House were not returned by deadline. Fitton said Clinton aides Mark Lindsay and Michael Lyle are heading up the project -- which is being carried out by Charles Nash, a supervisor in the White House's records management unit. Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily.com. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:16:35 -0600 kl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >-Caveat Lector- >How does Carl's least corrupt/offensive/restrictive government differ >from Libertarianism? Probably not much. Depends on the details. I was just tossing out my core belief. >Creeds must disagree: it is the whole fun of the thing. >If I think the universe is triangular, and you think it is square, >there cannot be room for two universes. We may argue politely, >we may argue humanely, we may argue with great mutual benefit; >but, obviously, we must argue. Modern toleration is really a tyranny. >It is a tyranny because it is a silence. To say that I must not deny >my opponent's faith is to say I must not discuss it . . . It is >absurd to have a discussion on Comparative Religions if you don't >compare them. - G. K. Chesterton Good quote. I love discussion. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] John Ashcroft's Dubious Pen Pal
Sunday, January 14, 2001 http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,94912,00.html John Ashcroft's Dubious Pen Pal Three years ago, attorney general nominee John Ashcroft wrote a friendly note to the leader of an extremist gun-owners organization who is linked to racist groups. Elaine Shannon, Michael Weisskopf and Adam Zagorin report. BY ELAINE SHANNON, MICHAEL WEISSKOPF AND ADAM ZAGORIN Nearly three years ago, as Sen. John Ashcroft was considering a run for the presidency, he composed a hand-written thank-you note to a man many politicians would run from. Neatly inscribed on Ashcroft's Senate stationery, the letter went to Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, a firearms lobbying group considered extremist even by many conservatives. "Thanks to you and GOA," Ashcroft wrote, the senator planned to call for significant changes in a juvenile-justice measure then working its way through Congress. An original cosponsor, Ashcroft ultimately withdrew his support for the bill because of the provision cited by GOA. There is no evidence of further contact between Ashcroft, George W. Bush's nominee for attorney general, and Pratt, though Ashcroft had put out feelers to GOA activists in New Hampshire while exploring a presidential bid seven months earlier, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Nor is there anything unusual about a senator responding in writing to an interested citizen. But the discovery of the senator's personal note to Pratt is likely to fuel Democratic charges that Ashcroft is insensitive to minorities and civil liberties. At the time Ashcroft wrote to Pratt, the Virginia-based activist was already branded as a pariah even by those considered to the right of the GOP: Two years earlier, he had been forced to step aside as co-chairman of Pat Buchanan's presidential campaign after news reports of his association with leaders of the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nations and militias. Launches letter-writing campaign In May 1998, shortly after Ashcroft's letter, Pratt had achieved some notoriety for a GOA press release following an incident in which a 15-year-old boy in Springfield, Oregon, shot and killed his parents and two students at his school. Pratt responded with a release headlined, "Lesson of School Shootings: More Guns Needed at Schools." Pratt, however, is not just involved with the GOA — he is also president of another group, English First, an organization accused of immigrant-bashing that is part of the conservative coalition rallying behind Ashcroft's nomination. The bill that concerned Pratt, the Violent and Repeat Juvenile Offender Act, proposed tougher penalties on criminal street-gang activities. It even had the backing of the National Rifle Association. But Pratt's far more militant GOA launched a letter-writing campaign demanding that Ashcroft and other senators abandon the measure. GOA objected, among other things, to a provision that would impose stiff penalties for gun violations under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). In his letter to Pratt, Ashcroft seemed to agree, saying, "I am working to see that the RICO provisions are stripped from the bill... ." A version of the measure passed both houses but died in a House-Senate conference. ACLU also opposed bill In an interview with TIME, Pratt appeared to be proud of the Ashcroft letter, which is posted on GOA's web site (item low on page). He noted, however, that his group gave the senator no more than a C minus in its ratings of members of Congress and will not support or oppose him for attorney general. Mindy Tucker, a spokesman for the Bush transition, said Ashcroft wrote Pratt to thank him for making the senator aware of unintended consequences of the bill. "It's an indication of his appreciation for [Pratt's] heads-up," she said. Tucker said Ashcroft ultimately withdrew his sponsorhip of the bill because he considered the RICO provisions overly broad, a position she added was also taken by the liberal ACLU. Tucker said that despite the friendly tone of Ashcroft's note — it was headed "Dear Larry" and signed, "Thanks, John" — the senator has no personal relationship with Pratt, whose organization, she said, opposed his 2000 reelection bid.
[CTRL] Bush's Star Wars raises global arms race fears
Bush's Star Wars raises global arms race fears http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,422102,00.html Ed Vulliamy in New York and Gaby Hinsliff Sunday January 14, 2001 A new arms race looms this weekend after reports that Russia and China are preparing to enter into a historic pact, spurred by plans by the incoming Bush administration to plough ahead with a vast missile defence screen. The controversial National Missile Defence programme (NMD) - nicknamed Son of Star Wars - would deploy thousands of air defence missiles to shoot down incoming intercontinental ballistic weapons fired by rogue states or international terrorists. To be effective, the US would have to be allowed to use the early warning station at Fylingdales in Yorkshire. Former Defence Minister Peter Kilfoyle, writing in The Observer today, warns Tony Blair against the scheme,saying it is a 'dangerous flight of fancy' that would leave Britain vulnerable to attack. The prospect of renewed international tensions came as Moscow and Beijing announced the forging of a treaty and strategic alliance over arms and space programmes which could rupture the new, post-Cold War world order. If the treaty is developed into a fully fledged alliance, it would be the first to be joined by China in decades. A source in President Clinton's State Department said: 'The Russians are pretty baffled and more than a little scared. While they want to be seen to welcome and work with the incoming President, they are bound to wonder who this amount of warfaring material is supposed to be against.' The French Defence Minister is travelling to Moscow for talks on the new missile system, which France opposes. The British Government is split on the issue, but The Observer can reveal that, privately, it has warned Washington that it should go ahead with NMD only if it can secure international agreement. 'We said to the Clinton administration that we do not want you to proceed unilaterally,' said one Whitehall source. 'That is also the stance we are starting to adopt with the new administration. 'Don't underestimate Number 10's strategy on this - it is not about saying "come on board and roll all over me".' However both sides of the debate accept the US is not backing down on the idea. Bush's choice for Pentagon Chief, Donald Rumsfeld, has called for a total overhaul of US defence strategy and weaponry, with vast spending increases and the missile defence screen at the core of the new strategy. Rumsfeld, who also held the office under President Ford, is heir to the hawkish wing which pushed Star Wars and is understood to have dismissed the anti-ballistic missile treaty with Russia, pivotal to the halting of the arms race, as 'ancient history'. Threats from China and 'suspicions' towards Russia were discussed last week between Bush's defence staff and Clinton's defence chief William Cohen. One aide said both nations were 'not allies and certainly not friends'. The aggressive signals from Washington have alarmed the Foreign Office in London. Although the Ministry of Defence has been keener not to offend the Americans, insiders say even there opinion is divided on whether Britain should allow its base to be used in what could be an echo of the Greenham Common debacle, inspiring public protest and a likely rebellion on the Labour backbenches. Kilfoyle says the plan will be 'hugely destabilising' to international relations in a clear warning to Blair not to become involved. 'The British Government will need to decide just how much it's worth to offer itself as a hostage to the fortunes of a misguided - literally and metaphorically - strategic defence initiative,' he says. 'If America's putative enemies do have plans to suicidally attack America, why should we turn ourselves into the primary target?' Star Wars was pushed into the domestic spotlight by William Hague's announcement last week that a Tory government would support it. Ministers had hoped that if Al Gore got into the White House, he might drop the idea. But now the issue has become an awkward test of the 'special relationship' in the post-Clinton era. Downing Street believes technical problems with the system - in tests the interceptors meant to shoot down missiles missed them all - will mean the decision can be put off for months if not years. The Sino-Russian pact has its origins in a visit by Russian President Vladimir Putin to Beijing last summer, but the final agreements were sealed just before Christmas. Yesterday, the chairman of the strategic research department at the US Naval Defence College, Jonathan Pollack, said: 'These negotiations are being publicised on the eve of the Bush presidency. Both leaderships are very uneasy about the new administration's plans to accelerate missile defence'. Pollack said such a move would return the global pattern to an East-West conflict.
[CTRL] Elaine Chao's ties to Chinese leader
CHANGING OF THE GUARD Elaine Chao's ties to Chinese leader Expert: Bush's Labor nominee 'family friend' of Jiang Zemin http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21327 By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com President-elect George W. Bush's choice to head the Labor Department, Elaine Chao, and her father have extensive personal ties to communist China's President Jiang Zemin -- contact described as "regular" and "deep," WorldNetDaily has learned. According to an Asian affairs expert who spoke on condition of anonymity, Chao -- whom Bush selected to head the Labor Department after his first choice, Linda Chavez, withdrew from consideration over charges she harbored an illegal alien in 1992 -- allegedly characterized as "racist" the findings of a May 1999 report on Chinese espionage, released by a select committee chaired by Rep. Christopher Cox, R-Calif. The Sino expert told WND the relationship with Jiang stems from Ms. Chao's father, James S. C. Chao, who attended college with the Chinese president before fleeing for Taiwan in 1949, in advance of the communist government takeover of the mainland. "They have continued a sort of university friendship ever since," the expert said. Chao's father resides in New York City and, years ago, founded a ship brokerage and agency business, Foremost Maritime Corp. -- a lucrative shipping firm that ships goods from the U.S. to China and much of Asia. "To do this would require one having friends in high places," or "Guanxi" (the Chinese term for political connections), the source told WorldNetDaily. "The real story here is that Ms. Chao's father -- and most likely herself -- has been a family friend of the leaders of communist China for practically all of her life." When asked if Chao has had any contact at all with Jiang, the expert said, "Absolutely." And, the source added, "it's kept very quiet, but it's probably regular contact." If confirmed, said the Asia expert, "she would come into [Bush's] Cabinet with a more intimate relationship with the president of China than with the president of the United States." "During the furor of the Cox report, she was out there, leading protests against it and criticized it as 'racist,'" the source said. Calls were made to the Bush transition team headquarters for comment but were not returned. Also, WorldNetDaily contacted the Heritage Foundation for comment without success. A spokesman from Cox's office told WorldNetDaily he had never heard of Chao's criticism and denied any knowledge of her or her father's connection to Jiang. Ms. Chao, 47, a Taiwanese immigrant, is the former chairman of the Heritage Foundation's Asia Studies Center Advisory Council and a distinguished fellow at the conservative think tank. She once served as deputy secretary of the Transportation Department under the president-elect's father, President George Bush, and also served as chairwoman of the Federal Maritime Commission. She became director of the Peace Corps in 1991 and led the United Way of America from 1992-1996. Married to Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., Chao is said to be on the fast track to Senate confirmation.
[CTRL] From Cradle to Cabal: The Secret Life of Gale Norton
http://www.almartinraw.com/ by Al Martin From Cradle to Cabal: The Secret Life of Gale Norton A True Blue Republican Party Apparatchik Also Rises Gale Norton, the Bush designate for Secretary of Interior, was Attorney General of Colorado from 1991 to 1999. She was brought in after her predecessor Duane Woodard was forced to resign because of his involvement in illegal political contributions. Incidentally Woodard through his involvement in a series of partnerships and corporations had borrowed over $70 million from the infamous Silverado Savings, which he never repaid. He was recommended for these loans by then Silverado Director Neil Bush. At the same time, Robert Gallagher, the Arapahoe County District Attorney, was appointed to investigate MDC Holdings Corp., a publicly traded company on the American Stock Exchange, controlled by the infamous Republican cabalist Leonard Millman. After an SEC investigation, MDC plead guilty in 1991, paid a $1.5 million fine and was under SEC supervision for three years. Then Judge Richard G. Matsch (of the Oklahoma City Bombing Case fame) was assigned to the MDC Holdings case. Denver US Attorney Mike Norton (no relation to Gale) was the prosecutor. Prior to his US Attorney appointment, Mike Norton ran for the Senate, and his campaign manager was the Chief Executive Officer of MDC Holdings, Larry Mizel. The Assistant US Attorneys in the case were Joseph Mackey and Greg Graff, whose brother, Robert Graff, was also an MDC Holdings Director. Because of public and media pressure, the US Attorneys office indicted several of the vice presidents of MDC subsidiaries, including Richmond American Homes, one of the nation's largest builders. They plead guilty. At that point, Judge Matsch made a statement in open court that he was tired of the prosecution bringing in low level vice presidents before him and because of the serious evidence he expected the prosecutors to vigorously prosecute those who were at the top, David Mandarich and Larry Mizel, and that he would vigorously sentence those involved. Within days, his daughter was dead. The bizarre circumstances involved her "falling" into a volcano on Hawaii during a trip there with her boyfriend. An inside source claims that the boyfriend was planted on her. He supposedly met her in a grocery store, wined and dined her and had been dating her for about a month from the time Judge Matsch was assigned to the case. Then because of the death of his daughter, the MDC case was reassigned to the Chief Judge of the Tenth Federal Circuit Court, Judge Sherman Finesilver. Finesilver accepted a $1.5 million plea bargain from MDC and acquitted Mandarich while Judge Matsch was in mourning. At that time, Robert Gallagher was appointed Special Assistant Attorney General by the Governor of Colorado to investigate the alleged political contributions of MDC Holdings. Colorado Attorney General Woodard was named one of the recipients of illegal campaign money and he resigned. With Woodard gone and Gallagher's investigation completed, Gale Norton, the new Attorney General, took the investigation report and doctored it, eliminating evidence of wrongdoing by MDC Holdings and its officials, especially Larry Mizel. And how was Gale Norton paid off? She was allowed to hire six new attorneys for her staff to interface with Colorado state officials, congressmen and senators. Eyewitness reports have described only two attorneys on staff in the basement offices and the other four attorneys were never seen. Evidently the notorious M &L Business Machines, a subsidiary of MDC Holdings, had laundered the attorneys payroll checks for Gale Norton's benefit. In fact, M & L Business Machines president Robert Joseph testified before a US Federal Grand Jury that the payroll checks for Gale Norton's phantom attorneys were indeed laundered through M& L Business Machines. Assistants to Gale Norton were further advised and evidence was turned over to them about their boss's criminal activity and obstruction of justice. Later when allegations of corruption concerning Silverado Savings and Loan and Denver International Airport appeared on an official report, Gale Norton again rewrote the report omitting any accounts of wrongdoing by her real bosses, Leonard Millman and the Denver Boys. When Gale Norton left the Attorney General's office, she was rewarded,given a partnership at the infamous Denver-based Brownstein Law Firm. So here are some of the connections. Norman Brownstein was on the Board of Directors of MDC Holdings, parent company of Silverado S&L and Richmond Homes, as well as MDC's corporate counsel. Brownstein was also on the Board of Directors of Chubb Securities, the insurance company which paid for Bill Clinton's impeachment defense, the Paula Jones lawsuit damages, and other legal expenses. B
Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS [was So, you thought it was the tar etc.]
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Nessie wrote: > >They both stink up everything their smoke comes in contact > > "Stink" is a subjective term. Many people think marijuana smells good. > You don't? ;-) = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian...
-Caveat Lector- June wrote: > While the case mentioned below is regarding a married officer having sex with a >fellow soldier (female) who > was not his wife, it is interesting to see that the Canadian Army extends the 'no >sex' ban to include the > spouses of enlisted personnel... > So much for 'family values'... Well, the case has been dismissed but that is beside the point. What came out at trial is the rationale for the 'no sex' rule during combat situations, which applies to homosexual, hertosexual and martial sex (if two married soliders happened to be stationed together during a war) and it makes sense, in that in intense situations people having sex in the bunk next to you could be disruptive to those trying to sleep before going out the next day to kill or be killed. Something like that. However, the man and woman in this case said they were watching a porno flick and not actually engaging in sexual relations. Right! Kelly > June > > - Original Message - > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:58 AM > Subject: Puritanism in Canadian Army - Sex is Bad! > > > > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/aa011001a.htm > > > > No Sex Please, We're Soldiers > > Army Can Ban Sex > > > > Dateline: 01/10/01 > > > > A Canadian peacekeeper could be court-martialed for having sex with > > another soldier after a military court upheld the armed force's ban on sex, > > even between married couples. > > > > Air Force Corporal Jeff Montgomery's lawyer argued that the ban was > > unconstitutional because it violated Canada's Charter of Rights and > > Freedoms by denying soldiers the chance to form relationships. > > > > A military judge ruled that Canada's Armed Forces has the right to ban all > > forms of sexual activity at overseas peacekeeping bases. Military personnel > > and spouses are prohibited from hand-holding, flirting, being seen in the > > quarters of the opposite sex, or any sexual activity. > > > > Sex Too Dangerous For Army > > > > "With sexual activities -- even if it is with married couples -- it could > > lead to feelings of jealousy, even violence, feelings of favoritism and > > disrupting the feelings of cohesion and morale," said judge Colonel Guy > > Brais. > > > > Montgomery is a member of the 408 Tactical Helicopter Squadron and is a > > 32-year-old married father of one. He is charged with "conduct prejudicial > > to the good order of service discipline." During a a peacekeeping mission > > in Bosnia, he allegedly bedded a 36-year-old female corporal three times in > > four nights while his roommate tried to sleep about three feet away. > > > > Master Corporal Alan Warren testified that the encounters disturbed his > > sleep. "I woke up at midnight to the sound of two people having sex in > > Montgomery's bed," he testified Tuesday. "Springs were squeaking, there was > > the sound of kissing and bodies slapping together and voices. After two > > minutes, I put a Walkman on, turned it up to drown out the noise and went > > to sleep." > > > > The charges resulted after Warren complained to a superior. In > > cross-examination, Warren was accused of having his own relationship with > > an American servicewoman in Sarajevo for which Montgomery had reproached > > him. Warren denied fabricating the story to get even. > > > > Double Standard? > > > > Women serve in all wings of the Canadian Armed Forces but not in combat > > roles. Their minority position in the military was ruled to be a support > > for the fraternization ban. > > > > "Seven per cent of those at the camp are women, and sexual activity > > between members could negatively affect their responsibilities," said the > > judge. > > > > The woman who allegedly slept with Montgomery was not charged but the > > military has given no explanation why. > > > > Chain Of Embarrassments > > > > The case is the latest discipline embarrassment for the Armed Forces. > > Cases in recent years include: an officer poisoned, sexual harassment > > cover-ups exposed, the airborne division disbanded for hazing and a public > > inquiry into racism among peacekeepers in Somalia. > > > > >From Canada Newsletter > > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/aa011001a.htm > > > > > > ** > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always,
[CTRL] Sv: Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, Thank you for your reply. The shape-shifters must be happy with the fine PR-work, you are doing for them. Maybe they will bestow a membership of some fine order upon you? However from the viewpoint of truth, you have not done well. Truth is suffering. You did not even answer the question, I have asked you twice: <> Best, Ole Gerstrom, Copenhagen, Denmark - Original Message - From: nexusmagazine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter? > -Caveat Lector- > > thanks for posting this Ole. Now everyone can see what happens to > researchers of our ilk, who happen to contradict David Icke's favourite > theory of the moment. > And for the record, I would not say we have massively promoted Laurence > Gardner. He became popular in his own right amongs NEXUS-type readers, > BASED ON HIS RESEARCH! > > Gardner is NOT nobility, does NOT claim to stem from any royal lineage, > and is an ordinary guy. His titles were bestowed upon him so as to grant > access to records of various royal families of Europe. > > Icke, Swerdlow and Wilder should be ashamed of themselves for publishing > such smear. I would have expected to see this sort of unsubstantiated > trash in Weekly World News. > > Shame on YOU too Ole for regurgitating such rubbish. Why don't YOU do > some research and find out for yourself how shoddy David Icke's research > is? > > Why don't you or Icke debate Gardner on his research points instead of > name-calling and character smear? Are you cowards? Are you on some > agenda? > > Why stoop to such gutter tactics to disuade people from reading Gardner's > work? > > Must be threatened by something he says methinks! > > > >IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? > > > > New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes > > part in human sacrifice rituals. > >Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. > > > > by DAVID ICKE > > > > > >Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when > >Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, > >that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal > >Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who > >took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. > > > >Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been > >particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir > >Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his > >magazine. > > > > But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that > >he also > > witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the > >Montauk mind > > control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir > >Laurence Gardner > > played a major role. > > > > Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: > >The Alien > >Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; > >Healing of the > >Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now > >extensively > >documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 > >in the early > >seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys". > > > Duncan M. Roads > Editor, NEXUS Magazine > PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia > Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 > http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 > > "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. > On the contrary, the means always determine the end." > (Aldous Huxley) > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: [CTRL] NFOTERRA: Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- DIG alfred webre wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Here are 2 datasets, the first is including sea surface temperature: > > http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > > the next using meteorological stations only: > > http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt > > You will see by looking at both datasets that the annual mean temperature is > increasing. I found this stuff thanks to 'Grist.' > > http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/heatbeat/weather011101.stm > > and the link 'about the data:' > > http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/heatbeat/data0599.stm > > Another issue about air above the Ocean is that enthalpy rather than > temperature > is the true measurement of heat, which includes both sensible heat and the > latent > > heat of vaporization of the water vapor (evaporating water droplets can cool > the > air.) > > I'm still more interested in surface temps than theoretical satellite temps, > but > here are some satellite links > > http://orbit-net.nesdis.noaa.gov/crad/st/amsuclimate/gifs/rt40.gif > > http://pm-esip.msfc.nasa.gov/amsu/index.phtml?1 > > Bob Maginnis This is merely mental masterbation. The ice caps and glaciers are MELTING. They are no doing so because it is getting colder. J2 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Are there any comments or retorts to this controversial report? > > == > > LONDON TELEGRAPH Jan. 14, 2001 > > Global warming claims 'based on false data' > > By Robert Matthews > > > > FRESH doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the > > discovery that a key method of measuring temperature change has exaggerated > > the warming rate by almost 40 per cent. > > > > Studies of temperature records dating back more than a century have seemed > to > > indicate a rise in global temperature of around 0.5 ° C, with much of it > > occurring since the late 1970s. This has led many scientists to believe > that > > global warming is under way, with the finger of blame usually pointed at > > man-made pollution such as carbon dioxide. > > > > Now an international team of scientists, including researchers from the Met > > Office in Bracknell, Berkshire, has found serious discrepancies in these > > temperature measurements, suggesting that the amount of global warming is > > much less than previously believed. > > > > The concern focuses on the temperature of the atmosphere over the sea, > which > > covers almost three quarters of the Earth's surface. While scientists use > > standard weather station instruments to detect warming on land, they have > > been forced to rely on the crews of ships to make measurements over the > vast > > ocean regions. > > > > Crews have taken the temperature by dipping buckets into the sea or using > > water flowing into the engine intakes. Scientists have assumed that there > is > > a simple link between the temperature of seawater and that of the air above > > it. > > > > However, after analysing years of data from scientific buoys in the Pacific > > that measure sea and air temperatures simultaneously, the team has found no > > evidence of a simple link. Instead, the seawater measurements have > > exaggerated the amount of global warming over the seas, with the real > > temperature having risen less than half as fast during the 1970s than the > > standard measurements suggest. > > > > Reporting their findings in the influential journal Geophysical Research > > Letters, the scientists say that the exact cause of the discrepancy is not > > known. One possibility is that the atmosphere responded faster than the sea > > to cooling events such as volcanic eruptions. > > > > The findings have major implications for the climate change debate because > > the sea temperature measurements are a key part of global warming > > calculations. According to the team, replacing the standard seawater data > > with the appropriate air data produces a big cut in the overall global > > warming rate during the last 20 years, from around 0.18¡C per decade to > > 0.13¡C. > > > > This suggests that the widely-quoted global warming figure used to persuade > > governments to take action over greenhouse gases exaggerates the true > warming > > rate by almost 40 per cent. The team is now calling for climate experts to > > switch from seawater data to sea-air temperature measurements. > > > > One member of the team, David Parker, of the Hadley Centre for Climate > > Prediction and Research at the Met Office, said that the discovery of the > > discrepancy "shows we don't understand everything, and that we need better > > observations - all branches of science are like that". Yet according to Mr > > Parker, the new results do not undermine the case for global warming: "It > is > > raising questions about the interpretation of the sea-surface data." > > > > Even so, the findings will be seized on by sceptics as more evidence that > >
[CTRL] Boylen: Unmanned Aerial Vehicle not UFO (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:28:03 -0800 From: drboylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Unmanned Aerial Vehicle not UFO GLOBAL HAWK RECONNAISSANCE --. Recently a Global Hawk took off from Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, flew non-stop along the East Coast, crossed the Atlantic to Portugal, and finally flew back to Eglin, a 29-hour test flight that set an endurance record. The entire mission to Portugal was programmed on a laptop and downloaded to the UAV's main controls. The vehicle's sensor suite took hundreds of detailed radar and infrared images enroute and transmitted them via satellite to Ft. Bragg, N.C. and to the aircraft carrier George Washington underway in the Atlantic. Resolution of photographic images capable of distinguishing vehicle tire tracks from 65,000 feet is claimed for the bird. While still undergoing flight tests at Edwards Air Force Base, the performance of the UAV has exceeded expectations according to military officials and industry analysts. The Air Force proposes to buy 66 of the craft with the unit cost to drop from the current $51 million to about $20 million with full scale production. A recent request to add $1 billion to the AF budget over the next five years to speed up production was turned down in part due to the resistance encountered from some commanders [usually rated pilots] who advocate a cautious approach to the UAV's development. While expected to replace the U-2s over the years, the U-2 presently can carry double the UAV payload. The AF goal is to quickly increase the Global Hawk's capabilities to match the U-2's. A major advantage for the UAV is the ability to hover in the vicinity of a target for 24 hours, and without risking a pilot. Critics claim the bird cannot react as rapidly or flexibly as a pilot in changing circumstances, but supporters note the ground-based operator monitoring the flight can easily alter the flight or take control if evasive action becomes necessary. The craft is equipped with a device that can detect enemy radar and can deploy several towed decoys to divert high-altitude missiles fired from an enemy fighter or from ground launchers. Despite its excellent development performance thus far, it is far from likely that the UAV will be a rapid replacement for the U-2s given the limitations of its sensor suite, the reluctance of pilots to embrace a pilotless platform, the costs of the vehicles, and the sturdy performance record of the U-2s. ( LA Times 7 Jan '01,) Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC, Post Office Box 22310, Sacramento, California 95822, United States of America. Phone: (916) 422-7479 (PDT) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEBSITE: http://www.jps.net/drboylan/ = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > --- Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The climate IS changing. THAT is what is important. We > have reached the end of the interglacial period. > Humans didn't cause this phenomenon. It is > a natural cycle. This means that environmentalists > ( I consider myself one ) > are simply wrong if they blame humans." > __ > Nakano Comments: > You're right about the "end of the interglacial > period" and that the long cycles of climate > change are naturally occuring. > However at this time there is a completely > new causative factor in the equation. > This new factor is "Scalar Technology". > This technology has the capacity to > "steer" the jetstreams and major ocean currents. > In fact it is being used for this purpose. > Thereforethose who blame humans for the > climatic changes are correctbut for the > wrong reasons. > Nakano Sorry. I don't buy it. j2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 554 Law Professors Say ...
-Caveat Lector- On 14 Jan 2001, at 11:32, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: > > There are lots of names surrounding the text. About 10% are > barely readable. The remaining names and affiliations are > completely illegible. I find this curious for an advocacy ad, > but given the substance of the ad and the supposed positions of > the signers, perhaps I can understand. > > Let's see if I can condense all the outrage I feel about this ad > into a single thought. Do these Great Men dedicated to the rule > of law protest every decision of the Court where the Court > assumes power for itself, or do the Great Men limit their > displeasure to cases where they don't like the result? > > Perhaps they were all beneficiaries of the type of legal education described in the following article: American Legal Education: Buyer Beware by David Dieteman Many Americans hate lawyers. For that matter, persons the world around dislike lawyers. Anyone who followed the Gore election lawsuits can only have come away from the sordid affair with a greater dislike for lawyers. I am a new lawyer, so this is not at all disturbing to me. I am not sure that I will find it disturbing when I am very old. It was apparently greatly disturbing to Congressman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, who went so far as to instruct my graduating class of 2000 at Case Western Reserve University law school not to make lawyer jokes, and to gently chastise people heard making lawyer jokes. (As an aside, Jones earned an F- from the Gun Owners of America for the 107th Congress, so she is not on my list of favorite politicians. Yes, that is an F minus. The Gun Owners are serious about report cards.) Many lawyers should be made fun of, especially the two self- righteous charlatans who will be exiting the White House soon, namely Bill and Hillary Clinton. (Gore dropped out of law school). But it is not only lawyers who are in need of scathing criticism. American law schools should also be taken to task for their third- rate intellectual environment. As the story was told by my law professors, early in the 20th century, Harvard decided that there was a cheaper way to educate law students. Rather than the traditional lecture format, more students could be crammed into classes if the Socratic method was used. This makes no intuitive economic sense to me, but we will follow the story as it is told. The Socratic method which is a disgrace to Socrates, who sought a) to get the truth from self-proclaimed experts, who were no more than windbags and b) sought to be a gadfly in the political life of Athens consists of sneering professors quizzing students until a student gets something wrong. Generally, this is done by trick questions, argumentative assertions, and similar devices for which contemporary American law students are wholly unprepared. The Socratic method which should, in fairness, be called the Drill Sergeant Lite method (because no one will be punched or made to do pushups, or run three miles in the rain in full pack) may have been a sensible method a) at Harvard and b) when it was instituted, i.e. when Americans entering law school were better educated than they are today. Ufortunately, many younger Americans are semi-literate at best. Even if the students entering law school today are able to read, they are not well-read. They have likely never heard of, let alone actually read Hayek, Cicero, or St. Thomas Aquinas (Aquinas, after all, is a "religious" figure, and thus doubly-dangerous). The odds are good that they have not read much Shakespeare either. Using the Socratic method on such nearly-empty minds is a sheer waste of time. The waste is multiplied when one considers the fact that law students are expected to teach themselves. Yes, teach themselves. The job of the law professor is to hide the truth. The professor will not tell the student the elements of a contract, or the elements of a tort such as battery (i.e., the legal cause of action for physically hitting someone). Instead, the student is expected to read the cases in a textbook and figure it out on their own. Remember that these are students, born after 1975, who nearly uniformly have never been made to think or work hard in their educational careers. Challenges having been abolished in the name of protecting "self-esteem," these students do what comes naturally to them: they play Nintendo, read the New York Times, email their friends, drink tremendous amounts of beer, have illicit sex, and generally bide their time until graduation. When it comes to teaching themselves, law students fall back on whatever platitudes they memorized in college and high school, or what they might have heard from a special interest group or on CNN. The end product of such legal education is not a nation of great legal minds. At best, it is a nation of competent legal practitioners. At worst, it is a nation whose lawyers lack an adequately grounded philosophical and moral understanding of the nature of
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > --- Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > 1/16/01 > > > > This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know > > is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are > melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can > > argue those measurements. > ___ > > Nakano Comments: > > No argument here. The question is: > "WHY"? > Why are the ice caps and glaciers melting? I do know why, and it IS because of greenhouse gasses. J2 > > CFCs and "Greenhouse gasses" are a cover story > The real cause is something very different. > You are not going to hear about it on > the evening TV news. > Nakano > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Joshua > This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know > is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting > and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those > measurements. > MJ > Are you describing WHAT you are writing? > This 'sky is falling' Global Warming is being chanted > by the SAME people who proclaimed Global Cooling in > the 1970s ... with the SAME goals. So what? > > The ACTUAL temperature data does NOT support this 'obfuscation > and drivel' (as you describe Global Warming) Obfuscation and drivel is describing the article QUESTIONING global warming. Not global warming. Pay attention here. ... it is > various models -- read guesses -- that is at its base. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > If present trends continue, the world will be about four > degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, > but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is > about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. > -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, > Earth Day 1970. So what? J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- Joshua This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements. MJ Are you describing WHAT you are writing? This 'sky is falling' Global Warming is being chanted by the SAME people who proclaimed Global Cooling in the 1970s ... with the SAME goals. The ACTUAL temperature data does NOT support this 'obfuscation and drivel' (as you describe Global Warming) ... it is various models -- read guesses -- that is at its base. Regard$, --MJ If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day 1970. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IM: FBI Releases File on Insight
-Caveat Lector- FBI Releases File on Insight By Timothy W. Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] This magazine files a FOIA request with the FBI to discover whether Insight reporters have been under investigation for reporting about sensitive, national-security issues. Six months ago Insight filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI to determine whether the G-men have been maintaining a dossier on this magazine under lock and key. There was concern that the bureau might be building such a file based on dozens of Insight special investigative reports into criminal and intelligence matters. There also was concern that telephones were being bugged when clicks and tapping noises frequently interrupted interviews with clandestine sources. It is not irrational to say that words published in this magazine sometimes have made life difficult for a lot of official someones: Under the Clinton administration, U.S. Secret Service agents have made unannounced visits to interrogate Managing Editor Paul M. Rodriguez concerning his statements about upcoming news stories. Other federal law-enforcement agents have demanded that this writer and other Insight reporters back off from key stories in preparation. And sometimes federal agents have called asking for a heads-up on what Insight was planning to reveal in future issues. As a matter of journalistic principle, such requests always have been denied. Conversations with the FBI sometimes hinted that Insight had become a matter of official interest. But is there a paper trail on the interest? After some careful thought, we decided to reverse the tables and find out what, if anything, those pesky G-men have collected about this magazine and its reporters. Given the clear protections of the First Amendment, there couldnt be an FBI file on Insight even under the Clinton administration or could there? Indeed there could and there is: File No. 263-0-3095. And we have obtained at least part of it through a standard FOIA request. This file is astonishing in some respects because it shows that stories published here often have prompted officials to request inquiries and reports investigations we never were told about during standard follow-ups to the original stories. It also is evident from this file that some Insight stories have touched nerves so sensitive that the FBI has refused to release additional memos that may have been triggered by those stories, protecting this paper trail by dead-ending it at the FBIs National Security Division. FBI Freedom of Information chief John M. Kelso Jr. released 11 of 11 pages dealing with what the bureau described as a cross-reference report on the magazine. Some of the information was redacted because of internal personnel rules and practices of an agency. Most of the redacted material appears to have dealt with names, other agencies and details of specific comments. Did the relatively small size of the file seem disappointing? Only to those who expected something like the FBIs 4,500-page Walshot file. Readers may recall that Insight obtained that one from the bureau for an inside look at the assassination attempt on the late Alabama Gov. George Wallace (see New Chapters in Assassins Diary, Dec. 14, 1998). That Insight story prompted Court TV to produce a documentary on the mid-election attack that is expected to be aired this year. Still, only 11 pages? It is hard to believe considering that this magazine has been breaking national-security stories and annoying some of the most powerful politicians and bureaucrats in the world for 16 years. Of course, our initial reaction was there just had to be more than 11 pages. Perhaps we had stymied ourselves by requesting a file on the magazine rather than files on the reporters and editors. So, recently, several of us waived our privacy rights to let Insight find out what the FBI had or imagined about our staff. In the meantime, we still had those 11 pages of G-mens snooping on this magazine. What did the file on Insight say? Those looking for dirt on Rodriguez and the deep-background sources that enabled him to help bust up the Keating Five, dig up Larry Lawrence from the Arlington National Cemetery and nail the foreign spying on the Clinton White House can forget it. Rodriguez, surprisingly, is nowhere to be found in the FBIs file on the magazine. Only two Insight reporters are mentioned in the file, Senior Editor Jamie Dettmer and Timothy W. Maier. The good news, of course, is that Kelso says in his report on the Insight file that a search at FBI headquarters of the general indices to the central records did not reveal that the subject of your request has been the subject of an FBI investigation. So Insight is not a target of an FBI probe. That will save a lot of lawyer fees. But details in the file confirm that stories broken by Insight repeatedly have become subject to FBI inquiries. The first story to tickle the bureau came f
[CTRL] 554 Law Professors Say ...
-Caveat Lector- [This is from an advocacy ad in today's NYT. It was paid for by "People for the American Way."] By Stopping the Vote Count in Florida, The U.S. Supreme Court Used Its Power To Act as Political Partisans, Not Judges of a Court of Law We are Professors of Law at 120 American law schools, from every part of our country, of different political beliefs. But we all agree that when a bare majority of the U.S. Supreme Court halted the recount of ballots under Florida law, the five justices were acting as political proponents for candidate Bush, not as judges. It is Not the Job of a Federal Court to Stop Votes from Being Counted By stopping the recount in the middle, the five justices acted to suppress the facts. Justice Scalia argued that the justices had to interfere even before the Supreme Court heard the Bush team's arguments because the recount might "cast a cloud upon what [Bush] claims to be the legitimacy of his election." In other words, the conservative justices moved to avoid the "threat" that Americans might learn that in the recount, Gore got more votes than Bush. This is presumably "irreparable" harm because if the recount proceeded and the truth once became known, it would never again be possible to completely obscure the facts. But it is not the job of the courts to polish the image of legitimacy of the Bush presidency by preventing the disturbing facts from being confirmed. Suppressing the facts to make the Bush government seem more legitimate is the job of propagandists, not judges. By taking power from the voters, the Supreme Court has tarnished its own legitimacy. As teachers whose lives have been dedicated to the rule of law, we protest. There are lots of names surrounding the text. About 10% are barely readable. The remaining names and affiliations are completely illegible. I find this curious for an advocacy ad, but given the substance of the ad and the supposed positions of the signers, perhaps I can understand. Let's see if I can condense all the outrage I feel about this ad into a single thought. Do these Great Men dedicated to the rule of law protest every decision of the Court where the Court assumes power for itself, or do the Great Men limit their displeasure to cases where they don't like the result? = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IBD - Clinton's Land Grab
-Caveat Lector- www.investors.com 1/10/01 Clinton Grabs Lots Of Land For Gov't As Clock Ticks Down On Presidency By Daniel J. Murphy Investor'S Business Daily Friday's order putting vast tracts of national forests off limits to further timber, energy and other development may not he President Clinton's last touch to his green legacy. Environmentalists inside and out-side the administration are urging him to do even more. The incoming Bush team vows to review Clinton's orders. At the moment, though, it's keeping quiet about what it might do. Members of Congress are speaking up in defense of their states' economic interests. Last week's announcement blocking nearly 60 million acres of national forests especially incensed Alaska lawmakers. Some 9 million roped-off acres come from that state alone. The state's lawmakers, along with others, want to have that and other moves checked. Indeed, Clinton has come under heavy criticism in recent months for unleashing a wave of new rules on the economy and environment using his executive powers to go around Congress. Last-Minute Orders But if Clinton is worried about the anger, he isn't showing it. Asked last month about the flurry of last-minute orders, Clinton answered, "I think we should just do what we think is right, and then when they get in, they'll do what they think is right. That's what democracy is all about." The usual press of last-minute business got rolling this fall. Knowing his pipeline-safety legislation would not pass Congress, Clinton ordered the Transportation Department just before Election Day to issue new rules on inspection and repair of more than 500 miles of hazardous liquid pipelines. In early December, Clinton signed an executive order to preserve coral reefs off the Hawaiian Islands. Later that month, he set guidelines for environmental impact reviews of trade deals with other countries. Just before Christmas, Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt urged his boss to add five national monuments. On Monday, he added two more to his wish list (see chart). The president could act on the other proposals any day. Maker Of Monuments Clinton has created national monuments before. In 1996, he named southern Utah's Grand Staircase-Escalante region as a national monument, against the wishes of many in the state. He has based his decisions on the Antiquities Act of 1906. That law permits the president to effectively wall off areas for reasons of historic or scientific value. Right now, the tally of Clinton-declared national monuments stands at 12. He also has expanded two others. taking his additions to existing monuments up to nearly 4.6 milli6n acres. Major green interests want Clinton to do more. The Sierra Club and Natural Resources Defense Council want Clinton to stop conversion of an airfield at the edge of the Everglades from military to civilian use. Activists in the Northwest seek to breach dams to protect the Snake River salmon. Most of all, environmentalists want Clinton to declare the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildljfe Refuge a national monument. Surprisingly to some, Babbitt didn't suggest Alaska's 19-million acre Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as one of the areas slated to become national monuments. The Alaska wildlife refuge holds billions of barrels of oil, and oil companies have eyed the region as one of the last great oil-rich sites in North America. But any thought of developing it has been met with angry opposition by environmental groups. And last week White House spokesman Jake Siewert said Clinton believes current law already protects the region from oil exploration. Angry Oil Companies Still, the push for more executive orders makes up a hunk of the beef that the lumber, mining and energy industries have with the outgoing Clinton administration. Bush can reverse such edicts easily. But there would be an outcry. "I guess it would depend on how much political capital he wants to expend undoing his predecessor's legacy vs. establishing his own," said Jay Cochran, fellow at George Mason University's Mercatus Center. Not all of the 11th-hour moves, though, are executive orders. Some involve more formal regulatory matters. Because in theory such rules are grounded in laws Congress passed, they will prove harder to change. Clinton stressed that some of these issues had been in the works a long time. A case in point would be the rules for cleaner-burning diesel fuel . that had been mulled and feared for years. It hasn't been so long with the energy efficiency standards the Energy Department is trying to rush out the door. First proposed in early October, the rules call for upping the efficiency of household appliances as well as air conditioners and heat pumps by up to 30%. The agency would like final action on the latter two before Jan. 20. even though the law does not require new standards. A Bush Reversal? The next president could stall any new rules. He could impose a 60-day
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > 1/16/01 > > This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know > is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can > argue those measurements. ___ Nakano Comments: No argument here. The question is: "WHY"? Why are the ice caps and glaciers melting? CFCs and "Greenhouse gasses" are a cover story The real cause is something very different. You are not going to hear about it on the evening TV news. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PBP: Tests find how much pressure voter must apply to remove chad
-Caveat Lector- Tests find how much pressure voter must apply to remove chad By Gary Kane Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 13, 2001 BOCA RATON -- Courts and columnists, candidates and consultants wrestled with the question throughout the contentious post-election period. Just what is the difference between a vote and a pregnant chad? Mechanical engineering Professor Jose Villanueva has an answer: about 31/2 ounces of applied pressure. In tests commissioned by The Palm Beach Post, Villanueva, who teaches at Florida Atlantic University, and graduate student Gilmer Viana measured the force required to cast both clear votes and dimpled ballots on the two types of punch-card voting devices used in Palm Beach County. Among their findings: On average, 11 or 12 ounces of pressure will push a stylus through a ballot, detaching a chad. It's slightly easier to pop a chad using a Votomatic than the more-compact Data Punch apparatus. Chads dislodge more easily from the center of the ballot than they do along the top, bottom and sides of the ballot. It takes about the same amount of force to dislodge a chad with a sharp-tipped stylus as it does with a dull-tipped stylus. But the dull tip will generate more hanging chads. The tests also indicated that arguments about chad buildup in the voting devices might have been off-target. Democrats and Republicans squabbled in court over the possibility that some votes were blocked by mounds of chads piling up in the reservoirs at the bottom of Votomatics and Data Punch devices. But Villanueva said his tests showed that chad buildup was more likely to occur above the thin layer of rubber that forms the top surface of the reservoir -- caused by hanging chads becoming dislodged when ballots were removed from the voting device. Most people posses the physical might needed to cast a vote on a punch-card system, the professor said. "A feeble person couldn't," he said. "I imagine some people who live in nursing homes wouldn't have the strength to put 11 ounces of pressure on the stylus." By comparison, tests showed that about 3.6 pounds of pressure are needed to depress the lever on a typical toaster -- about 41/2 times the force needed to vote. To conduct the tests, Villanueva and Viana had to come up with a way to use a low-capacity testing machine to measure the small amount of force needed to dislodge a chad. The machine, which resembles an oversized drill press, is capable of exerting 20,000 pounds of pressure. It's typically used by engineers to test the strength of materials used in manufacturing and construction. Curve on paper shows force The two engineers decided to use a strain gauge, which would be sensitive to low levels of pressure. They attached the stylus to a load cell, a strip of aluminum about the size of a ruler. The strain gauge was fastened to the underside of the load cell, which in turn was attached to the low-capacity testing machine. As the testing machine pushed down on the load cell, the stylus pressed against the paper ballot. The strain gauge sensed the force and emitted a signal, which was then amplified and transmitted to a recorder, which plotted the force on a piece of paper, etching a curve in a manner similar to a polygraph machine. Sample ballots were used in the tests. Manufacturers say the perforations on sample ballots are not as precise as actual ballots and therefore a little more force is required to dislodge the chad. Villanueva and Viana conducted several tests on each voting device. They found that, on average, 11.5 ounces of force pushed the stylus through the ballot in the Votomatic system, whereas 12.8 ounces were needed to do the same on the Data Punch device. County election records show a higher rate of under-votes -- ballots that failed to register a vote when fed through electronic tabulators -- in precincts using the Data Punch system than in precincts using the Votomatics. Tests showed that as little as 6.4 ounces of weight on the stylus will create a dimpled chad. Add 31/2 more ounces, and the chad begins to detach, forming a hanging chad. Chads are easier to dislodge from the center of the ballot than from the outer edges, the tests show. Using the Votomatic, 11.5 ounces applied to the stylus removed chads from the center of the ballot. But 12.5 ounces were needed on average to punch chads from the edges. Villanueva suggested filing off the sharp tip of the stylus to see whether a dull stylus would require more voter muscle in the voting booth. The difference was negligible -- a dull-tipped stylus would require about sixthteen-one hundredths of an ounce more power by the voter. "We did see an increase in hanging chads with the stylus when the point was dull," he said. It's doubtful that dull tips were responsible for the county's post-election headache. The county routinely replaces worn styluses, Elections Supervisor Teresa LaPore said. The engineers discovered that hangi
Re: [CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian...
-Caveat Lector- --- Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > June Subject: Puritanism in Canadian Army - Sex is Bad! "With sexual activities -- even if it is with married couples -- it could lead to feelings of jealousy, even violence, feelings of favoritism and disrupting the feelings of cohesion and morale," said judge Colonel Guy Brais. ___ Nakano Comments: Judge Brais is correct. Sexual relationships among those in the ranks is disruptive of military cohesion and morale. This is why women have been integrated into formerly all-male combat unitsto undermine their combat effectiveness. Women have deffinite roles to play in the military. However, it isn't in operational combat forces and especially those with limited space and facilities such as Navy ships and submarines. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Warning Signs! January 15, 2001 ~ Vol. 3, No. 3
-Caveat Lector- Amelia wrote: > >Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) >Encoding: quoted-printable Amelia, All your posts run off the screen. Only your posts do so. You might want to check your settings. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 This is obfuscation and drivel. All you need to know is that the ice caps and the worlds glaciers are melting and sea level is rising. No assholes can argue those measurements. For years, the tobacco industry was able to sell their poison without interference because they could create a " climate of doubt," even though the medical profession knew the effects of smoking. This is a common tactic of capitalists. For some strange reason ONLY absolute proof of horror is acceptable before society can make the evil fuckers stop killing for profit. There is no doubt about global warming. None! Joshua2 == DIG alfred webre wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Are there any comments or retorts to this controversial report? > == > LONDON TELEGRAPH Jan. 14, 2001 > Global warming claims 'based on false data' > By Robert Matthews > > FRESH doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the > discovery that a key method of measuring temperature change has exaggerated > the warming rate by almost 40 per cent. > > Studies of temperature records dating back more than a century have seemed to > indicate a rise in global temperature of around 0.5 ° C, with much of it > occurring since the late 1970s. This has led many scientists to believe that > global warming is under way, with the finger of blame usually pointed at > man-made pollution such as carbon dioxide. > > Now an international team of scientists, including researchers from the Met > Office in Bracknell, Berkshire, has found serious discrepancies in these > temperature measurements, suggesting that the amount of global warming is > much less than previously believed. > > The concern focuses on the temperature of the atmosphere over the sea, which > covers almost three quarters of the Earth's surface. While scientists use > standard weather station instruments to detect warming on land, they have > been forced to rely on the crews of ships to make measurements over the vast > ocean regions. > > Crews have taken the temperature by dipping buckets into the sea or using > water flowing into the engine intakes. Scientists have assumed that there is > a simple link between the temperature of seawater and that of the air above > it. > > However, after analysing years of data from scientific buoys in the Pacific > that measure sea and air temperatures simultaneously, the team has found no > evidence of a simple link. Instead, the seawater measurements have > exaggerated the amount of global warming over the seas, with the real > temperature having risen less than half as fast during the 1970s than the > standard measurements suggest. > > Reporting their findings in the influential journal Geophysical Research > Letters, the scientists say that the exact cause of the discrepancy is not > known. One possibility is that the atmosphere responded faster than the sea > to cooling events such as volcanic eruptions. > > The findings have major implications for the climate change debate because > the sea temperature measurements are a key part of global warming > calculations. According to the team, replacing the standard seawater data > with the appropriate air data produces a big cut in the overall global > warming rate during the last 20 years, from around 0.18¡C per decade to > 0.13¡C. > > This suggests that the widely-quoted global warming figure used to persuade > governments to take action over greenhouse gases exaggerates the true warming > rate by almost 40 per cent. The team is now calling for climate experts to > switch from seawater data to sea-air temperature measurements. > > One member of the team, David Parker, of the Hadley Centre for Climate > Prediction and Research at the Met Office, said that the discovery of the > discrepancy "shows we don't understand everything, and that we need better > observations - all branches of science are like that". Yet according to Mr > Parker, the new results do not undermine the case for global warming: "It is > raising questions about the interpretation of the sea-surface data." > > Even so, the findings will be seized on by sceptics as more evidence that > scientists have little idea about the current rate of global warming, let > alone its future rate. Climate experts are still trying to explain why > satellites measuring the temperature of the Earth have detected little sign > of global warming - despite taking measurements during supposedly the warmest > period on record. > > Some researchers suspect that the fault may again lie with the ground-based > temperature measurements. They say that many of the data come from stations > surrounded by growing urban sprawl, whose warmth could give a misleading > figure. A study of data taken around Vienna, Austria, between 1951 and 1996 > found that the air temperature rose by anything from zero to 0.6¡C, depending > on precisely where the measurements were made. > > __ > EcoNews Service - Always online for Exopolitics &
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The climate IS changing. THAT is what is important. We have reached the end of the interglacial period. Humans didn't cause this phenomenon. It is a natural cycle. This means that environmentalists ( I consider myself one ) are simply wrong if they blame humans." __ Nakano Comments: You're right about the "end of the interglacial period" and that the long cycles of climate change are naturally occuring. However at this time there is a completely new causative factor in the equation. This new factor is "Scalar Technology". This technology has the capacity to "steer" the jetstreams and major ocean currents. In fact it is being used for this purpose. Thereforethose who blame humans for the climatic changes are correctbut for the wrong reasons. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Picture of "IT?"
-Caveat Lector- I want one. What's the patent number? www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How Southern Violations of States Rights Caused the Civil War
-Caveat Lector- >In fact the cause of the Civil War was neither slavery nor "states rights". Gale Norton has it wrong.Todays "Civil Rights" groups have it wrong. The history books have it wrong (intentionally wrong). Nakano has it wrong too, though what he says is true enough as far as it goes. European imperialists, especially England (the REAL "Evil Empire"), had designs on North America, as well as fear that anti-colonialism would spread. The REAL cause of the Civil War, though,was that the Abolitionists had fully integrated guerrilla army fighting in the field to overturn slavery. They had correctly concluded that the government wasn't going to do it for them. This force had learned how to fight in Kansas and Missouri. Then they turned their attention eastward. Had the government not stepped in, made the war official and taken over its control, the Abolitionist forces would have soon made the government irrelevant. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Tenorlove wrote: > > > I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, > > here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal > > temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of > > rain, this winter came early, and I'm sitting here listening to my > > furnace run continuously. Maybe the rest of the world is warm and > > sunny, but I'm not convinced. And if there is global warming, please > > send me some. > > > > Tenorlove > > freezing > > Years ago I read a fascinating article by a geologist - oh, how I wish I > kept it! - and he was saying that the geological record showed that the > Earth, prior to 10,000 years ago, had a volitile weather system. Then, > he said, for some reason, for 10,000 years we have had stable weather > systems, which he said had given man the stability needed to spread > across the world and develop civilizations. Then he said that this > period of weather stability was ending. I think he was right. > > Isn't it awful when you lose track of a great article? Sorry that I > can't cite it - perhaps someone on the list has heard this theory and > can share? > > Kelly Kelly, What you are referring to is the " interglacial " period of an ice age. We are now, and have always been living in an ice age. The cycle runs as follows: 100,000 years.( More or less.) 90,000 years are in a glacial period; where the world climate is cold. 10,000 years are in interglacial; where the temperature warms. It is during this period that plant life expands dramatically in the biosphere. It's not that the interglacial is stable which is important to us, but that it is WARM and stable. The climate is very stable during the glacial period. And, for longer periods of time. The climate IS changing. THAT is what is important. We have reached the end of the interglacial period. Humans didn't cause this phenomenon. It is a natural cycle. This means that environmentalists ( I consider myself one ) are simply wrong if they blame humans. They are trying to make reality fit their ideology. But their intent is right on. While human doings don't actually CAUSE the climactic changes, the do influence them. That means that human activity in the use of fossil fuels are ACCELERATING the process of warming which is part of the natural cycle, instead of doing the opposite. We should be decelerating the process until we can figure out what humanity needs to do to survive the changes successfully. The MAIN REASON for the acceleration of the warming changes is the continued use of fossil fuels, and modern agricultural methods. THE MAIN REASON we continue these methods are because of the type of economic system we have and its imposition on the rest of humanity THROUGH GLOBALIZATION. Capitalism and its motivation of greed, together with its concentration of wealth and power into the hands of those who own and run corporations, ARE THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO MAKING THE CHANGES WE MUST MAKE TO SURVIVE IN THE NEW CLIMATE. There is no point to separating your garbage while businessmen pay workers to cut down trees for profit, and Big Oil and car making corporations continue to profit from fossil fuels. This is the REAL bottom line. Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NFOTERRA: Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- Here are 2 datasets, the first is including sea surface temperature: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt the next using meteorological stations only: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/data/update/gistemp/GLB.Ts.txt You will see by looking at both datasets that the annual mean temperature is increasing. I found this stuff thanks to 'Grist.' http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/heatbeat/weather011101.stm and the link 'about the data:' http://www.gristmagazine.com/grist/heatbeat/data0599.stm Another issue about air above the Ocean is that enthalpy rather than temperature is the true measurement of heat, which includes both sensible heat and the latent heat of vaporization of the water vapor (evaporating water droplets can cool the air.) I'm still more interested in surface temps than theoretical satellite temps, but here are some satellite links http://orbit-net.nesdis.noaa.gov/crad/st/amsuclimate/gifs/rt40.gif http://pm-esip.msfc.nasa.gov/amsu/index.phtml?1 Bob Maginnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are there any comments or retorts to this controversial report? > == > LONDON TELEGRAPH Jan. 14, 2001 > Global warming claims 'based on false data' > By Robert Matthews > > FRESH doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the > discovery that a key method of measuring temperature change has exaggerated > the warming rate by almost 40 per cent. > > Studies of temperature records dating back more than a century have seemed to > indicate a rise in global temperature of around 0.5 ° C, with much of it > occurring since the late 1970s. This has led many scientists to believe that > global warming is under way, with the finger of blame usually pointed at > man-made pollution such as carbon dioxide. > > Now an international team of scientists, including researchers from the Met > Office in Bracknell, Berkshire, has found serious discrepancies in these > temperature measurements, suggesting that the amount of global warming is > much less than previously believed. > > The concern focuses on the temperature of the atmosphere over the sea, which > covers almost three quarters of the Earth's surface. While scientists use > standard weather station instruments to detect warming on land, they have > been forced to rely on the crews of ships to make measurements over the vast > ocean regions. > > Crews have taken the temperature by dipping buckets into the sea or using > water flowing into the engine intakes. Scientists have assumed that there is > a simple link between the temperature of seawater and that of the air above > it. > > However, after analysing years of data from scientific buoys in the Pacific > that measure sea and air temperatures simultaneously, the team has found no > evidence of a simple link. Instead, the seawater measurements have > exaggerated the amount of global warming over the seas, with the real > temperature having risen less than half as fast during the 1970s than the > standard measurements suggest. > > Reporting their findings in the influential journal Geophysical Research > Letters, the scientists say that the exact cause of the discrepancy is not > known. One possibility is that the atmosphere responded faster than the sea > to cooling events such as volcanic eruptions. > > The findings have major implications for the climate change debate because > the sea temperature measurements are a key part of global warming > calculations. According to the team, replacing the standard seawater data > with the appropriate air data produces a big cut in the overall global > warming rate during the last 20 years, from around 0.18¡C per decade to > 0.13¡C. > > This suggests that the widely-quoted global warming figure used to persuade > governments to take action over greenhouse gases exaggerates the true warming > rate by almost 40 per cent. The team is now calling for climate experts to > switch from seawater data to sea-air temperature measurements. > > One member of the team, David Parker, of the Hadley Centre for Climate > Prediction and Research at the Met Office, said that the discovery of the > discrepancy "shows we don't understand everything, and that we need better > observations - all branches of science are like that". Yet according to Mr > Parker, the new results do not undermine the case for global warming: "It is > raising questions about the interpretation of the sea-surface data." > > Even so, the findings will be seized on by sceptics as more evidence that > scientists have little idea about the current rate of global warming, let > alone its future rate. Climate experts are still trying to explain why > satellites measuring the temperature of the Earth have detected little sign > of global warming - despite taking measurements during supposedly the warmest > period on record. > > Some researchers suspect that the fault may agai
[CTRL] Fw: Former KGB chief, Vladimir Semichastny, dead at 77
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: Former KGB chief, Vladimir Semichastny, 77 > > MOSCOW (AP) - A former chief of the dreaded Soviet-era KGB secret > police, Vladimir Semichastny, died Friday of a stroke, news reports > said. He was 77. > > Semichastny headed the KGB in 1961-67. He is believed to have been > active in orchestrating the 1964 ouster of Soviet leader Nikita > Khrushchev, who had introduced some liberal reforms following the > reign of terror of dictator Josef Stalin. > > Khrushchev's successor, Leonid Brezhnev, soon promoted many top KGB > officials - a fact that some researchers cite as confirmation of > Semichastny's prominent role in Brezhnev's coming to power. > Semichastny was named colonel-general and made a member of the Central > Committee of the Communist Party. > > But Brezhnev later dismissed Semichastny as KGB chief in 1967, > appointing him head of the Cabinet of Ministers of the then-Soviet > republic of Ukraine, the Interfax news agency reported. > > Semichastny made one of his last public appearances at a news > conference in December, which was timed to mark Chekist's Day, a > Soviet-era holiday commemorating the Dec. 20, 1917, establishment of > the Cheka, a precursor to the KGB. > > There was no immediate information about survivors or funeral > arrangements. > > AP-NY-01-12-01 1903EST > > -- http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] DEA quoting PhoenixHouse-87percent NY teen "patients" in 1999 were for marijuana
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 1/14/2001 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] DEA quoting PhoenixHouse-87percent NY teen "patients" in 1999 were for marijuana Use among youth: The marijuana problem among youth is particularly acute. According to a survey conducted by Phoenix House, an organization that runs drug abuse treatment centers and conducts extensive research, marijuana was the drug of choice for 87 percent of teens entering treatment programs in New York during the first quarter of 1999. A 1996 national survey conducted by Phoenix House revealed that eighty-three percent of adolescents in treatment perceived, at one time or another, marijuana to be less dangerous than other illicit drugs, and 60 percent agreed that using marijuana made it easier for them to consume other drugs, including cocaine, methamphetamine, and LSD. Similar statistics were found by the 1999 Monitoring the Future study, which showed that marijuana is the illegal drug most frequently used by young people. Among high school seniors, 49.7 percent reported using marijuana at least once in their lives. By comparison, that figure was 41.7 percent for seniors in 1995 and 32.6 percent in 1992. The 1999 NHSDA found that nearly one in 13 youths aged 12-17 were current users of marijuana in 1999 and that the prevalence of marijuana use among youth more than doubled from 1992 to 1999. The 1998 National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse study indicates that adolescents are first exposed and try marijuana at a very young age. According to the study, 50 percent of 13-year-olds reported that they could find and purchase marijuana, and 49 percent of teens surveyed said that they first tried marijuana at age 13 or younger. How many of these started with beer? Or sugared breakfast cereal? Or Ritilin? How many of this 87 percent sought treatment, and how many were mandated into treatment by parents or courts? "Think your brain is screwed up now kid, just wait till we treat you." Peace, Preston http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No Sex Please, We're Canadian...
-Caveat Lector- While the case mentioned below is regarding a married officer having sex with a fellow soldier (female) who was not his wife, it is interesting to see that the Canadian Army extends the 'no sex' ban to include the spouses of enlisted personnel... So much for 'family values'... June - Original Message - Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: Puritanism in Canadian Army - Sex is Bad! > > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/aa011001a.htm > > No Sex Please, We're Soldiers > Army Can Ban Sex > > Dateline: 01/10/01 > > A Canadian peacekeeper could be court-martialed for having sex with > another soldier after a military court upheld the armed force's ban on sex, > even between married couples. > > Air Force Corporal Jeff Montgomery's lawyer argued that the ban was > unconstitutional because it violated Canada's Charter of Rights and > Freedoms by denying soldiers the chance to form relationships. > > A military judge ruled that Canada's Armed Forces has the right to ban all > forms of sexual activity at overseas peacekeeping bases. Military personnel > and spouses are prohibited from hand-holding, flirting, being seen in the > quarters of the opposite sex, or any sexual activity. > > Sex Too Dangerous For Army > > "With sexual activities -- even if it is with married couples -- it could > lead to feelings of jealousy, even violence, feelings of favoritism and > disrupting the feelings of cohesion and morale," said judge Colonel Guy > Brais. > > Montgomery is a member of the 408 Tactical Helicopter Squadron and is a > 32-year-old married father of one. He is charged with "conduct prejudicial > to the good order of service discipline." During a a peacekeeping mission > in Bosnia, he allegedly bedded a 36-year-old female corporal three times in > four nights while his roommate tried to sleep about three feet away. > > Master Corporal Alan Warren testified that the encounters disturbed his > sleep. "I woke up at midnight to the sound of two people having sex in > Montgomery's bed," he testified Tuesday. "Springs were squeaking, there was > the sound of kissing and bodies slapping together and voices. After two > minutes, I put a Walkman on, turned it up to drown out the noise and went > to sleep." > > The charges resulted after Warren complained to a superior. In > cross-examination, Warren was accused of having his own relationship with > an American servicewoman in Sarajevo for which Montgomery had reproached > him. Warren denied fabricating the story to get even. > > Double Standard? > > Women serve in all wings of the Canadian Armed Forces but not in combat > roles. Their minority position in the military was ruled to be a support > for the fraternization ban. > > "Seven per cent of those at the camp are women, and sexual activity > between members could negatively affect their responsibilities," said the > judge. > > The woman who allegedly slept with Montgomery was not charged but the > military has given no explanation why. > > Chain Of Embarrassments > > The case is the latest discipline embarrassment for the Armed Forces. > Cases in recent years include: an officer poisoned, sexual harassment > cover-ups exposed, the airborne division disbanded for hazing and a public > inquiry into racism among peacekeepers in Somalia. > > >From Canada Newsletter > http://canadanews.about.com/aboutcanada/canadanews/library/weekly/aa011001a.htm > > > ** http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- --- Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I have a hard time believing that there is global > warming. Last year, here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal > > temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool > temps and tons of rain..." Nakano Comments: It is not a question of "Global Warming Yes or No?" The earth's climate is being modified...intentionally. It isn't CFC gasses. It isn't "greenhouse gasses". It isn't too many SUVs on the road. It isn't the burning of the rain forrests. And it isn't the long list of other things you read and hear about in the alleged News Media. The climate is being modified. Since it is a "closed system", when some areas are intentionally modified as to temperature and rainfall, other areas are affected as a consequence (which may be unintentional). We are definitely witnessing and experience unusual weather. If you want to know why, do some reaearch into the writing and work of Dr. Nick Begich and Jean Manning and others who have written about HAARP and related technology. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Marijuana is target in battle on drugs
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, January 14, 2001 Marijuana is target in battle on drugs JEFF PORTER ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE Although President Clinton says a little marijuana shouldn't be a crime, arrests for marijuana possession have more than doubled during his administration. Meanwhile, the latest numbers show, fewer drug dealers are being busted. "I think that most small amounts of marijuana have been decriminalized in most places, and should be," Clinton told Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner last November. Nevertheless, during his administration, the war on drugs has turned its focus to marijuana -- both nationally and in Arkansas. And a White House spokesman said Friday that Clinton does not support the decriminalization of marijuana. "The president's major point is that we need to look seriously at our policies of imprisonment and mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent minor offenses and look at other alternatives," said the spokesman, Jason Schechter. "The president believes that we shouldn't have harsh sentences for first-time, nonviolent offenders, and that we can get tough on drug use by getting tough on drug testing and drug treatment, as complements to enforcement." In 1992, the year before Clinton became president, nearly one in three drug arrests was for manufacturing or selling illicit drugs. Today, fewer than one in five is, according to Justice Department statistics. However, arrests for marijuana possession have soared from 271,900 in 1992 to 620,500 in 1999, a 128 percent increase. Today, 40.5 percent of all drug arrests are for possession of marijuana. In Arkansas, more than half are. It is not because there are more smokers. According to federal government statistics, marijuana usage has risen just 15 percent since 1992 -- barely more than the overall population increase. In Arkansas, the vast majority of those arrested were charged with misdemeanors -- possession of less than an ounce of marijuana. Possession of more than an ounce is a felony -- possession with an assumed intent to deliver. What exactly the numbers mean is hotly debated between those backing America's war on drugs and those who consider it to be a failure. For Bob Weiner, spokesman for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, the numbers mean success. "Cocaine has gone down so dramatically," he said. "So that's the reason why the market share ... is going down." With cocaine down, arrests for marijuana possession are rising, he said. Timothy Lynch, a criminal-justice scholar for the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C., is sharply critical. His organization bills itself as a nonpartisan research foundation that seeks to broaden public-policy debate. Lynch said America's drug policy is wasting money and resources, often pursuing simple marijuana smokers instead of violent criminals. "That's one of the main points I'm trying to hammer home," he said, calling leniency to violent criminals a "side effect" of the war on drugs. Every day law enforcement tries to crack down on drugs, he said, it takes away resources to solve a murder or rape. Weiner, though, contends that those murders and rapes are often linked to drugs. In fact, he said, the war on drugs is reducing not only drug use, but also crime overall. He noted, too, that billions are being spent on drug-abuse treatment and prevention. Last year, those efforts were allocated $6 billion in federal money. Even more money was allocated for arrest and interdiction -- $12.5 billion. The amount budgeted for domestic law enforcement has risen 74 percent under Clinton. Is the money being spent wisely? Again, it's open to debate. Critics like Lynch say some law-enforcement budgets have become swollen with drug-war money, giving law officers a vested interest in continuing that war. Even the Pentagon, he noted, receives millions every year for combating drugs. Last year, the Defense Department got $1 billion. Health and Human Services was budgeted $3.1 billion, the Justice Department $7.4 billion. Lynch cited a recent book released by the Cato Institute, After Prohibition: An Adult Approach to Drug Policies in the 21st Century, that contends that some law enforcement agencies intentionally target easy drug arrests so they can inflate their numbers and seek more money the next year. Weiner, citing the falling crime rates, says the money is well spent, saving and rebuilding lives, and dismisses Lynch. "There's a lot of false arguments out there. ... The arguments are absurd, and the American people know it." For two of the men fighting the drug war in Arkansas, the equation is simple. "Is the war on drugs costly?" muses Arkansas State Police Sgt. Don Birdsong. "Yes. But as a parent, it's a lot less costly than losing one of my children." Arkansas Drug Dir
[CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We "Save"
-Caveat Lector- Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We "Save" by David Dieteman For those aging hippies who smoked insufficient amounts of dope, such that they remember My Lai, this is an urgent news flash: nothing has changed. As has been widely reported, Nato troops in the Balkans including American troops fired ammunition made of "depleted" uranium. These rounds are apparently denser than steel (and are thus great as armor-piercing rounds) and also apparently explode on impact (whether this is due to the fact that they are made of depleted uranium, or because they are incendiary rounds, has not been clearly reported). In addition, they are also quite radioactive and thus poisonous to human life. To date, newspaper stories have focused on the "syndromes" associated with the Balkan intervention. It turns out that soldiers are turning up sick, apparently because of exposure to depleted uranium. Thankfully, the soldiers are from a variety of nations, so no one monopoly state has been able to censor all the stories. More to the point, Robert Fisk, writing in the Independent (UK) has pointed out that soldiers are not the only ones getting sick. It turns out that those Albanians that NATO and Bill Clinton were so trigger-happy to "save" are now coming down with cancer. Thanks to Americas "glorious" and ongoing war on Iraq, many Iraqis are also now suffering from similar cases of radiation poisoning. And so are American veterans. The point which should not be lost on the aging hippie crowd or on the younger generations is that Western thought has not advanced since Vietnam. Madeleine Albright has declared that the death of many thousands of Iraqi children is "worth it" to keep Saddam Hussein in check. Albright and the other Clinton "experts" have no end game no concept of what Iraq should look like in ten years. What sort of feelings do these policy wonks who will now be celebrated by the press as departed heroes rather than war criminals think will be the feelings of todays Iraqi children when they are older? What do they imagine to be the feelings toward the West and the United States held by those Iraqi parents who have watched their children die? And how about the Albanians? Did Nato and the USA have to poison them to, in order to "save" them? For those who have not yet perceived Bill Clintons modus operandi his style Kosovos cancer cluster is par for the course. Rather than actually do something good or useful, Clintons foray into Kosovo which was closely linked to his need to push the Lewinsky sex scandal off the front pages was merely aimed at making good headlines. (It might be argued that Clinton was also saving the credibility of the sycophants in the media, saving them the trouble of defending his libido any further, but that is beyond the scope of this article.) Journalists and special interest groups crying out for President Happy-Pants to "do something" about Kosovo? Bombs away. Problem solved. Only the problem was never solved. Despite the heroic crowing by the left-wing establishment that ground troops had not been needed, and that Kosovo had not turned into "another Vietnam," it turns out that Kosovo is indeed "another Vietnam," although not for the reason feared. Rather than turning into a charnel house where bright, young American men were shot, burned, maimed, blown up, and generally treated worse than hamburger meat, Kosovo turned out to be like Vietnam in demonstrating the left-wing establishments complete disregard for the alleged "victims." Those Kosovars that we were supposedly "saving" are now coming down with cancer, thanks to us. We must destroy the village in order to save it. Hello, Vietnam. One final note: consider the fact that the government cares more about hamburger meat than it does about its citizens. The past few years have featured numerous media tales of tainted hamburger meat, such that the federal government is now pushing for all sorts of additional restrictions on how meat is slaughtered, packaged, shipped, labeled, and prepared. Hamburger meat, then, is something which requires great care. Contrast this with the governments utter disdain for its citizens lives, in particular those who are soldiers. Rather than adequately equip or train the military, Americas social workers in camo are sent to known terrorist havens, such as Yemen, where they can be blown up having lunch. Just as shamefully, they are sent to the Balkans, or Iraq, where they are poisoned by their own ammunition and experimental vaccinations. To top it all off, their "superiors" lie to them, lie to their families, and lie to the world, all in an effort to keep their jobs, which pay much more than a soldier earns. How noble. January 12, 2001 http://www.lewrockwell.com/dieteman/dieteman9.html The relationship between truth and a newspaper is like the relationship between the color green and the number sev
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- From: "Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Years ago I read a fascinating article by a geologist - oh, how I wish I > kept it! - and he was saying that the geological record showed that the > Earth, prior to 10,000 years ago, had a volitile weather system. Then, > he said, for some reason, for 10,000 years we have had stable weather > systems, which he said had given man the stability needed to spread > across the world and develop civilizations. Then he said that this > period of weather stability was ending. I think he was right. Which is why I caution people not to go off half-cocked with theories regarding possible weather modification devices... While such devices may indeed exist and be functional, if one doesn't have DATA to assess, one can't make an intelligent conjecture regarding what is happening. What may seem 'abnormal' may in reality be very normal, just part of a greater pattern that the observer isn't aware of. So to say "The weather is very different than what I remember as a child" isn't very meaningful, because while in and of itself that may be true, it could be part of a pattern that lasts decades, or lasts hundreds of years...or thousands of years... We may very well be at the end of a cycle that lasts approximately 10K years...And perhaps this cycle only occurs infrequently, say once every 300K years... In which case, what is really 'abnormal' is the relatively stable weather we are used to...and an increase in the number of violent storms is actually more the 'norm'... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Inside Cover Story: Senator "Spector the Defector"
-Caveat Lector- >liberals hate him for the single bullet theory (1.) Which liberals? What exactly did they say? When did they say this? Where were they at the time? Be specific. Cite your sources. (2.) The first truly comprehensive account of what really happened that day in Dealy Plaza was written by a conservative lawyer from Texas who wrote under the nom de plume of William Torbitt. Torbitt did some serious investigating on his own when he came to realize that the assassination was but one act in an extremely well organized coup, that the people behind the assassination were fascists, and that among the people they had set up to take the blame if the coup was discovered were honest conservatives like himself. His work is called Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal. It is still, to this day, the definitive account. You can find it online at: http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/Torbitt.htm Read it today. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??
-Caveat Lector- From: "Tenorlove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a hard time believing that there is global warming. Last year, > here in New Jersey, winter stayed late, spring had below normal > temperatures, we had no summer at all, just cool temps and tons of > rain, this winter came early, and I'm sitting here listening to my > furnace run continuously. Maybe the rest of the world is warm and > sunny, but I'm not convinced. And if there is global warming, please > send me some. It is a fallacy (and a sign one has not done any research into the matter) to believe that global warming will result in a uniform warming and dryness throughout the world... While some areas indeed will find their overall temps higher, and some areas will find their overall precipitation lower, other areas will find that their temps are lower, usually due to increased cloud cover -- increased cloud cover which implies increased precipitation. So while some areas may brag about how balmy their winters are, other areas in the snow belt will find that temperatures are lower due to increased cloud cover -- which means more snow, which means even lower temps, as thermal radiation is reflected back to space due to the snow cover. Think about it...if the overall world temp is higher, that means more of the moisture in the oceans and lakes is evaporating; and that increased moisture will result in increased precipitation in certain geographical areas. Increased precipitation means increased cloud cover. Increased cloud cover means LOWER overall temps for that areawhile on a global scale, the temps are increasing... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP: Group wants court to oversee Clinton e-mail transfer to archives
-Caveat Lector- Group wants court to oversee Clinton e-mail transfer to archives By Greg Toppo Associated Press 1/12/2001 16:13 WASHINGTON (AP) A conservative legal group that has fought for access to thousands of lost Clinton administration e-mails wants a judge to oversee the transfer of the restored files to the National Archives after Clinton leaves office. Judicial Watch has dogged Clinton with lawsuits throughout his two terms, most recently taking the administration to court to force production of the e-mails. The group on Friday asked U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth to appoint a special master to oversee the transfer of the records to the archives. Such a transfer is required under the Presidential Records Act of 1978. ''We need to know how these materials are being dealt with,'' Larry Klayman, the group's general counsel, told the judge. Lamberth said he would rule on Judicial Watch's request on Jan. 17. A 1998 problem with the system prevented thousands of incoming e-mail messages from being archived. As a result, the e-mails were not reviewed by White House lawyers to determine whether they should have been turned over to investigators probing cases that included the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Whitewater and campaign fund raising. Lamberth last spring ordered the Clinton administration to restore and produce the e-mails. Judicial Watch wanted access to the files before the 2000 presidential election, but administration officials last fall told the judge that few of the messages could be restored by Nov. 7. Among the few e-mails reconstructed were messages showing that Vice President Al Gore's staff referred to a now-infamous event Gore attended at a Buddhist temple as a fund-raiser. The staff also referred to White House coffees a few hosted by Gore as fund-raisers. Gore has said he does not regard the temple event and the coffees as fund-raisers. According to a contractor overseeing the e-mail reconstruction, 2,041 of 4,508 computer backup tapes containing the messages have been catalogued, with nearly 1.5 billion e-mails processed. Of those, about 2.6 million are now in a readable database. The archives and the White House Office of Administration have agreed to a plan by which the Office of Administration will fund and oversee completion of the restoration after Clinton leaves office. White House lawyer Henry A. Azar Jr. told the judge the agreement ensures that the materials are preserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS
-Caveat Lector- >And by default these same individuals may eventually come to find that the reek of skunk spray in the wind no longer seems to stink, but actually "smells good" as well. That's not always skunk spray you're smelling out there in the woods. 8^ ) www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS [was So, you thought it was the tar etc.]
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>They both stink up everything their smoke comes in contact > >"Stink" is a subjective term. Many people think marijuana smells good. Probably only fellow smokers. Non-smokers (either tobacco or pot) can recognize that BOTH stink terribly, and leave a terrible odor on clothes, hair, furniture, etc. June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Picture of "IT?"
-Caveat Lector- This, some say, may be "IT": http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.45.s0.35.r0.gif = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Why Kissinger Cronies Released Tiananmen Square Papers Now
Why Kissinger Cronies Released Tiananmen Square Papers Now By Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. Excecutive Intelligence Review 1-14-01 [The CFR has accelerated its plans for Hitler-like emergency rule, through manipulated conflicts and "national security" pretexts at home and abroad. The weekly Executive Intelligence Review, founded by Lyndon LaRouche, is going all out to stop this. For a free copy of this week's 80-page issue, please call 1-888-347-3258, and say you "saw it on Rense.com."] During the past days, the New York Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), a bastion of such notables as China specialists Henry A. Kissinger and Winston Lord, has unleashed its efforts to manipulate the leadership succession of the government of China. The featured element of this onslaught has been the unveiling of what are alleged to be authentic records, which it calls "The Tiananmen Papers," allegedly secret records from circles of the China leadership from the period of the celebrated 1989 student demonstrations in Tiananmen Square. This release, published in the January/February edition of CFR's Foreign Affairs, has already been a featured subject of a major, cold-war-style propaganda barrage in the U.S.A. By the nature of the subject-matter, it is clear, that if the CFR's documents contain any new truths at all, those facts were already known to the U.S.A., British and other intelligence communities more than a decade ago, and could have been published at any time during that interval, but were not. Whatever the degree of truth and untruth in the CFR documents themselves, the publication of this dubiously conveyed material, is clearly intended to signal war-like changes in the policies of the incoming U.S. Administration of President-elect George W. Bush. Thus, rather than be lured into a tiresome debate over what are, at best, merely alleged to be top-secret documents which had been withheld over about a decade or more, let us not be fools. Let us focus on the most crucial fact about this CFR release; let us focus upon what is clearly not in doubt, the circumstances under which CFR has munificently elected to bestow these alleged pieces of learning upon us. In short, the question whether there is any truth, or none, in any of this published CFR material, has no relevance for the discussion of current strategic implications of CFR's choice of conduct in this affair. I, too, have lately dredged up afresh some well-documented past material on the relationship of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler to the grandfather of President-elect George W. Bush. The legitimate question would be, why do I bring up such absolutely truthful facts about the past now? As everyone should know, I have squarely met my obligation to meet that challenge; in the case of the so-called "Tiananmen Papers," CFR and its fellow-Confederates have not. Unfortunately, CFR being what it is, we would be fools to expect a truthful response to that challenge from that quarter. Fortunately, we have much other evidence which accounts for the present circumstances of CFR's present actions in this matter. For those who know the present world economic situation, the circumstances of the CFR actions are well known. The incoming Bush administration is doomed even before it is sworn in. It is doomed, by everything it has heretofore asserted to be its economic and social principles, probably doomed, that by its own errant will, to be cast up as wreckage on the shores of the presently onrushing, greatest financial crash in modern history. By no stretch of the imagination, could the already doomed Alan Greenspan provide a President Bush a "soft landing." Were that incoming administration to come to its senses, abandon those principles which would doom it, and accept a reasonable alternative, the new administration could survive the coming crisis rather well. What if it chooses not to make such imperative changes in its profile? Then, it is doomed to a undergo a catastrophe of its own making, and that soon. In the case that the new administration prefers to cling desperately to the policy-anchors of its presently sinking policy-ship, what else might it carry down, besides our United States, with that lost ship? This brings us directly to the context in which the CFR's latest crisis-management stunt has been staged. First, let us clear up the often hotly-debated issue of CFR itself. Then, the relevant points of CFR's relationship to Kissinger and the Bush Administration are clear. Then, we shall consider the kind of crisis-management orientation which an unredeemed Bush administration would find itself more or less inevitably doomed to follow, as a course of strategic action over the period immediately ahead. Elliott, Kissinger & Brzezinski In short, the New York Council on Foreign Relations is a product of the aftermath of both the assassination of the patriotic U.S. President William McKinle
[CTRL] Bush's War On Science-The 1st Salvo
Bush preparing to axe vital medical research into stem cells http://wsws.org/articles/2001/jan2001/stem-j13_prn.shtml By Frank Gaglioti 13 January 2001 Even before George W. Bush has taken office, his press secretary Ari Fleischer signalled on January 4 that the new US administration would probably axe public funding for groundbreaking medical research using stem cells. Clinton only gave the go-ahead last August for public financial support through the National Institute of Health (NIH) for the research. Previously only privately funded research had been allowed. The announcement is an early indication that the Bush administration will move to implement the reactionary agenda of the Christian fundamentalist lobby with serious consequences for science and medicine. Scientists obtain the stem cells for their research from discarded embryos produced during in vitro fertilisation programs—a process the Christian ultra right regard as equivalent to abortion and murder. At a press conference Fleischer quoted a statement made by Bush during the presidential campaign that he would “oppose federally funded research for experimentation on embryonic stem cells that require live human embryos to be discarded or destroyed.” Bush spokesman Scott McClelland added: “The President-elect's position is clear. He opposes federal funds for research that involves destroying living human embryos... As we have previously indicated, we intend to review all rules and executive orders implemented by the Clinton administration.” Bush's nomination of Wisconsin Governor Tommy Thompson to the cabinet position of head of the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the National Institute of Health, also indicates a hard line on stem cell research and other issues such as abortion. Thompson is notorious for introducing far reaching anti-abortion legislation in Wisconsin. Purportedly aimed at banning late term abortions, the law had the effect of halting most abortion procedures because of its all-embracing wording. The 1998 Wisconsin law describes abortion as a procedure meant to “kill a child” and defines a foetus as a human being from the moment of conception. Thus an abortion is tantamount to murder and any doctor performing abortions faces a life sentence. Such wording would also have the effect of banning stem cell research, as the harvesting of stem cells involves “murdering” the embryo. At last year's Republican Party National Convention, Thompson headed the platform committee, which adopted an anti-abortion resolution stating that “the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.” Some scientists have already expressed fears about the future of the research. Dr. John Gearhart, a leading stem cell researcher from Johns Hopkins University, said “whether it's Mr Bush or Mr Thompson, with the conservative bent on this, one has reason to be concerned.'' The research has the potential to cure a number of degenerative diseases such as Lou Gehrig, Alzheimer and Parkinson disease. Stem cells have the extraordinary ability to transform themselves into any other type of body cells, given the right conditions. Scientists are examining the possibilities of using cell cultures to produce tissues and even organs for transplants. Such transplant material would have the advantage of being produced from cells taken from the patient, thus avoiding complications of tissue rejection. Although the National Institute of Health is currently vetting research proposals for federal funding, private companies currently undertake most stem cell research in the US. The US company Geron Corp is using stem cells to produce cardiomyocytes, a component of heart muscle, that could possibly lead to a treatment for degenerative heart disease. Osiris Therapeutics is conducting clinical tests of a mixture of stem cells that may assist in the recovery of bone marrow transplant patients, the rebuilding of aging bones and the repair of damaged cartilage. European countries are moving rapidly to encourage the research. Italian health Minister Umberto Veronesi accepted a scientific report recommending human stem cell cloning at the end of last year. Italy followed closely on the heels of Britain, which recently passed legislation allowing early-stage embryos to be used for research, overturning the 1990 Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act. The law previously only permitted research using human embryos for purposes related to infertility, and for a limited period of 14 days. Sweden already allows stem cell research. Although US scientists working in the field have achieved a number of outstanding scientific and medical breakthroughs, the previous lack of public funding has meant that they have had to work for pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies. But by its very nature stem cell research is long-term and very few therapeutic treatments have even reached the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How Southern Violations of States Rights Caused the Civil War
-Caveat Lector- --- radman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Nathan Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HOW SOUTHERN VIOLATIONS OF STATES RIGHTS CAUSED THE CIVIL WAR > > by Nathan Newman > >The comments of Interior Secretary nominee Gale > Norton talking about the"loss" of states rights due to the Civil War just once more highlights the lie that the Civil War was fought over states rights, rather than fought to preserve slavery. > > > >In fact, if anything, the Civil War was caused by > Southern States using > >their control of the Congress and the Supreme Court > to use federal law > >against Northern states which resisted slavery > within their own territory. __ Nakano Comments: In fact the cause of the Civil War was neither slavery nor "states rights". Gale Norton has it wrong. Todays "Civil Rights" groups have it wrong. The history books have it wrong (intentionally wrong). The crowned heads and ruling classes of Europe rightly feared the powerful and dynamic America that was capturing the imagination of the people of the world. By 1840, America had become a powerful magnet which was attracting not only the attention of the world, but some of the best intellect and talent of the "old world". The governments and financial cabals of the old world did not want to see America become a single monolithic political/military entity expanding across the whole North American Continent. Rather, they sought to see America become many seperate countries as was/is the situation in Europe. They fomented several plots and operations to try to accomplish their goal. The American Civil War was in fact one of their schemesand it nearly succeeded. Yes, the Slavery Issue and State's Rights were whipped up to divide and incite the American People. There are always popular and highly visible reasons why wars are fought. The real reasons are very different from those written about in the mass media and history books. Nakano __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Were your comments supposed to be humor? > > If not, then I just don't understand:( > > AM I ALONE HERE?!? Yes. June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, flw wrote: > > Here is the latest on Osama bin laden: > > Were your comments supposed to be humor? If not, then I just don't understand:( AM I ALONE HERE?!? In my opinion... No wait! It *is* a FACT that ALL of your comments are just plain ludicrous, and have no more than comedic entertainment value, IF EVEN THAT! Such claims alone (as they are offered up in your post, i.e., without proof or any reasons as to why and how you can claim such things as if they were fact) are no more than a waste of time and print. AT BEST, such unsupported claims are nothing more than wildly absurd allegations warranting no serious attention at all (i.e., totally worthless) UNTIL/UNLESS they can be presented with at least a modicum of basis in fact. I'm sincerely wondering WHY it should even be necessary to go over this AT ALL, let alone periodically, as I and others have so many times ?? Look...I only write these things so that ppl's posts might be less prone to ridicule, AND, to make this list, in general, more academic and credible, so that "outsiders" would be [upon reading some of our threads] less prone to associate us with "conspiracy wackos" (like Mel's character in the movie, and more likely to read our stuff, and, AT VERY LEAST, think that most of our arguments, hypotheses, and our general discourse here to be advanced in a logical and analytical way, i.e., that the stuff we advance is AT LEAST POSSIBLE. Know what I mean? SO, here I am AGAIN, trying to benefit US ALL by attempting to explain things that should be obvious. Yet, for reasons I sincerely do not understand, for some *odd* reason, instead of feeling that "extraordinary claims require extraordinay proof," at least *some* of us apparently think the opposite of this Carl Sagan plattitude to be true, namely that really wild claims need NO substantiation AT ALL!!! For some crazy reason, some of us seem to somehow be completely overlooking (or forgotten) the FACT that the wilder the claim, the more support that SHOULD accompany it. What's more, what seems really strange to me is that posts containing such bizarre claims, while offering ZERO substantiation, are almost common on CTRL?!?!?! What's up with THAT?!? Isn't it obvious that this type of behavior should NOT occur EVER, let alone by those that wish there comments to be taken seriously by any logical person?? WHY IS THIS!?! Instead of being WAY MORE sensitive to the quite logical request for substantiation that such wild claims SHOULD always illicit, the opposite seems to be all too prevalent here on CTRL, namely, that some of us apparently think that the more bizarre their claims, the less proof is needed??? Isn't this back-assed-wards TO THE EXTREME!?!? I mean, SURE, *if* you are trying to portray and perpetuate conspiracy theorists as a bunch of fruit cakes, then PLEASE KEEP THIS CRAP UP! Other wise, try to remember that the more wild and/or unbelievable a theory, the LESS it should be advanced as STAND ALONE FACT! Am I wrong here? I just think that such basic and elementary concepts as these are really ANYTHING BUT complicated...i.e., it don't take a rocket scientist or brain surgeon to understand these simple things, DOES IT?? AGAIN, all of this really *SHOULD* go without mentioning. One last time... In order for such wild statements to be accepted as even remotely possible by any logical and/or analytical readers (EVEN IF THESE CLAIMS REALLY ARE TRUE), such extraordinary claims, if not accompanied by evidence of some kind, should ALWAYS be prefaced with a statement of qualification, e.g., that such claims as presented (i.e., without ANY substantiation whatsoever) are only "the opinion of the author," are only possible THEORIES suggested for discussion purposes," etc., BECAUSE, and for the umpteenth time, until such time that claims like these can be offered in OTHER THAN the stand-alone manner in which they are presented here (i.e., until they can be supported with at least a tad of evidence, etc.), well, then plain and simple: such crap is exactly that, i.e., CRAP! Seriously, do yourself and the rest of us a favor. Before ANY OF US go writing things like this, just THINK! THINK what any half educated, impartial, and logical person will think upon reading your posts. IF you want your stuff to be read and accepted in the future, then just keep repeating to yoursself this: Either offer some sort of substantiation for your claims, the more bizarre they are, THE MORE SUBSTANTIATION THAT *IS* NEEDED ... OR, DON'T FORGET TO ADVISE YOUR AUDIANCE THAT YOUR OFFERINGS ARE YOUR OPINION ONLY! I mean COME ON! I just don't get it :( Most sincerely, Mike P.S. I am NOT offering any of the above as "moderation." It is offered as a SUGGESTION ONLY, from just another concerned CTRL member that is simply trying to help. In other words, no one is required to heed my advice, BUT, I'm absolutely certain that accepting/abiding by s
[CTRL] Clinton aides 'destroying' evidence before Jan. 20
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21333 White House 'wiping clean' computer hard drives Judicial Watch gets tip Clinton aides 'destroying' evidence before Jan. 20 By Paul Sperry © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com The White House is rushing to "wipe clean" the hard drives of computers used by President Clinton's aides before the Jan. 20 changeover, a public-interest law firm claims. Normally, when employees leave the White House, computer workers take a snapshot of the contents of their hard drives and store them as part of official records, as required by law. Then they reformat the hard drives for the next users. But according to Judicial Watch, Inc., political aides have ordered computer workers to first run the hard drives through a software program by the firm Jetico, called B.C., or Best Crypt, which "wipes clean the drives so the next administration can't retrieve any files." "They're starting with [the hard drives of] the most important people first -- the [White House] lawyers -- and working their way down," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "And they're working through the weekend." He added: "It's the equivalent of burning records, according to our sources," who are White House employees. The records are key to Judicial Watch's Filegate lawsuit against the White House. General counsel Larry Klayman said he passed the tip on to U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth late Friday. Calls to the White House were not returned by deadline. Fitton said Clinton aides Mark Lindsay and Michael Lyle are heading up the project -- which is being carried out by Charles Nash, a supervisor in the White House's records management unit. WorldNetDaily White House 'wiping clean'BR computer hard drives.url
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- I was really disturbed to learn on last night's NBC-TV 11 o'clock news that the father of one of the victims of the Columbine shooting had spoken in Saratoga Springs, NY to an audience of 2,000 yesterday. In that speech he derided the separation between church and state, insisting it had no constitutional basis, and promoted Jesus and Christianity as the solution to situations such as the violence at Columbine high. Saratoga is a relatively small community and 2,000 is quite a turnout. I am wondering what the reaction was to the proposed solutions to violence. (IT does seem to me that the majority of Americans do already practice some form of Christianity, so why isn't it working? And would enforced Christianity work better? Considering that much of the most sensational school violence has occurred in Bible Belt states, it would seem not...but that is a ratiional deduction and this does not seem rational to me.) Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on the six o'clock news in the cities, too. sno0wl http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Parade route to see pomp, protests -
So the Gore "new aristocracy" plans to have 20,000 there? I imagine of this 20,000 over a a third will be security agencies - everything from the CIA to the Special Ops to the FBI to the Army, Navy and Marines... History repeats itself - oh the prophecies of Daniel and Ezekial they would fulfill - but none dare call it premeditated murder by prophecy? Remember JFK..the date he was sworn in a elderly man had planned on bombing the stand but was caught by secret service in advance - he said JFK stole the election, and bought the election for this is the propaganda Jean Dixon was putting out - this self ordained "divine" prophetess astrologer who passed herself off as a Catholic..and once said she slept in bed with giant snake that was he anti Christ - and this guy was born February 5, 1962? This woman was on payroll of the Hearst family.and King Syndicate Imagine Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's crowd - the ones they threatened to turn loose in the street - with thousands of eyes watching them? And Hill and Bill - departing finally - it is like the week before Christmas when you are a kid and you can hardly wait to see them leave. Now the ratings are high - for the parade route is being advertised and CNN and MSNBC hope for a few fatalities to boost ratings - maybe Clinton can arrange something before he leaves...why does he look so afraid? The conspirators using the Holy Bible as a Master Plan for Murder better be most careful for there are those in the Eagles Nest who have birdseye view and advance warning of the conspirator's plan. Will the Black Panthers be there with their little Uzis? What is more fun than a protest - the Gay Flag will be waving over the Stars and Stripes - but I am waiting to see the Southern Cross on the horizon. Saba Here is planned route - almost like JFK's trip to Dallas and route which was highly publicized and changed at last minute?...hope Eric Rudolph is there in disguise - so who will be raising the Baby Body parts for sale? Parade route to see pomp, protests New era of demonstrations, policies make unusual mix Scott Scheffer gets help from Sue Kelly in mounting a speaker on a vehicle so they can protest the inauguration. By David Montgomery THE WASHINGTON POST Jan. 14 The renaissance of political street protests, bolstered by a bitterly close election and abetted by a change in National Park Service practices, is transforming Saturday's inaugural parade route from the familiar flag-waving corridor into a gantlet of demonstrators. 'We know now a big part of the population actually agrees with us, but they don't want to come to a demonstration and get beat up by police and get tear-gassed.' BRIAN BECKER Co-director of the New York City-based International Action Center A HALF-DOZEN GROUPS have received Park Service permits to protest directly along the 13-block section of Pennsylvania Avenue that George W. Bush will travel, and there are permits for rallies at McPherson Square, the Ellipse and Dupont Circle and near the Supreme Court. Still other groups plan to sow the area with squads no larger than 25 small enough that they don't need a permit. More Post coverageSecurity tightened for Inauguration DayThe 2001 Inauguration: Post stories, features, more The quadrennial patriotic celebration, which is usually spared outspoken expressions of ideological rancor, this year is likely to look more like other large public gatherings in contemporary America, where partisans of all stripes seek to command attention. The traditional pomp and circumstance will be shaken and stirred with camp and remonstrance. MORE THAN 20,000 PROTESTERS EXPECTED Altogether, protesters predict upward of 20,000 demonstrators mixed into a parade audience that inaugural planners expect to number 150,000. The Park Service resisted giving permits to demonstrators along America's Main Street four years ago for President Clinton's second inaugural parade. But an antiabortion group sued, and the day before the parade it won a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This year, citing the case, Mahoney v. Babbitt, the Park Service approved all 13 requests for demonstration permits. Some groups had applied for multiple permits. While organizers have vowed to conduct peaceful and legal gatherings, 16 federal and local law enforcement agencies led by the Secret Service are taking unprecedented security steps. More officers than ever will be on dutyat least 6,800 and it will be the first inaugural parade in American history for which those attending must pass through police checkpoints. The demonstrators range from the professionally outraged who had planned to be in town no matter who won the election, to first timers radicalized by the vote count in Florida, to those who oppose the protesters and want to stage counter-demonstrations. MILITANT
Re: [CTRL] REU: LIAR Clinton: Riady Should've Obeyed the Law
-Caveat Lector- > The Justice Department (news - web sites) said Riady in a 1992 > limousine ride pledged to donate $1 million to Clinton's > campaign. Clinton, who was the Arkansas governor at the time, has > said he does not specifically recall the conversation. Doesn't remember a $1,000,000 campaign contribution conversation...what a lyin pile of shit. When this fool leaves the Whitehouse they won't need a moving van...all they need is a shovel. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Inside Cover Story: Senator "Spector the Defector"
-Caveat Lector- > In a message dated 1/13/01 6:21:59 PM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Washington has been abuzz for while about Specter's off-the-wall > > comments and mental well-being. > I believe the original question was how old Specter is. Specter is approximately 29 years younger than Strom Thurmond, the esteemed senator from South Carolina. Funny - liberals hate him for the single bullet theory and Anita Hill and the others hate his moderate views. He must be doing something right. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Clinton: Riady Should've Obeyed the Law
-Caveat Lector- Friday January 12 1:22 PM ET Indonesian Donor Should've Obeyed the Law -Clinton WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Indonesian businessman James Riady, who has agreed to plead guilty to conspiring to make illegal contributions to campaigns of President Clinton (news - web sites) and other U.S. politicians, should have obeyed the law, Clinton said on Friday. A day after the announcement that Riady has decided to admit his guilt over federal election law violations, Clinton said, ``I am not at all concerned about it. I think people should know what our campaign finance laws are and should obey them.'' The Justice Department (news - web sites) said Riady in a 1992 limousine ride pledged to donate $1 million to Clinton's campaign. Clinton, who was the Arkansas governor at the time, has said he does not specifically recall the conversation. Foreign corporations are barred by law from making U.S. political campaign contributions. Taking questions from reporters outside the White House, Clinton said of Riady, ``Well, I knew him when he was in Arkansas and his family owned part of a bank there, and I have kept up with him since.'' LippoBank California, which is affiliated with the Lippo Group, the Riady family conglomerate in Indonesia, also has agreed to plead guilty to 86 misdemeanor counts charging that Riady and former Lippo employee John Huang made illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994. Shortly after the $1 million pledge to Clinton, from August through October 1992, contributions made by Huang were reimbursed with funds wired from a foreign Lippo Group entity into an account Riady maintained at LippoBank and then distributed to Huang in cash, the Justice Department said. Riady has agreed to pay a record $8.6 million in criminal fines and to continue cooperating with government investigators, the Justice Department said. Under the plea deal, he will be spared from any time in prison. Riady is scheduled to appear at a court hearing on Tuesday in Los Angeles, where the case has been filed, a Justice Department spokesman said. As part of the plea deal, he will surrender and come to this country even though Indonesia has no extradition treaty with the United States. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ATTN: Reply Re: Ted Gunderson
-Caveat Lector- Thank you very much for your trouble. Birds Private Mail Welcome http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Harris testimony called laughable
-Caveat Lector- On 13 Jan 2001, at 21:54, radman wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > . "The > public officials in the state apparently don't read the papers, they > don't watch television, they don't know anything about what's going on > in the state," Berry said. Hmm, maybe they are forced to get all their news from Ms. Berry's radio stations - that could explain a lot of ignorance. -- Arms are the only true badges of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of a free man from a slave. ~~ Andrew Fletcher 1698 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: > > "Stink" is a subjective term. Many people think marijuana smells good. And by default these same individuals may eventually come to find that the reek of skunk spray in the wind no longer seems to stink, but actually "smells good" as well. And what is good, Phaedrus, And what is not good -- Need we ask anyone to tell us these things? - Robert Pirsig http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: ABCNEWS.com : Jesse Jackson's West Africa Trip Delayed
This is older item - Jesse Jackson is a one man self-serving band; however, the article shows how sincere and uninformed and just plain stupid this man really is..the great humanitarian wanting to work with butchers? Rings in his fingers and bells on his toes - and he shall have music, wherever he goeth? Saba GO Kids | GO Family | GO Money | GO Sports | GO Home ABCNEWS WEB ABOUT GO NETWORK | SIGN IN | FREE E-MAIL HOME NEWS SUMMARY U.S. POLITICS WORLD Raw News BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY SCIENCE HEALTH&LIVING TRAVEL ESPN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT WEATHER.com REFERENCE LOCAL ABCNEWS ON TV WORLD HEADLINES Major Oil Find Could Rile Markets Jesse Jackson's West Africa Trip Delayed U.S. Envoy Pushes Peace Amid Clashes Ethiopia Reports Heavy Gains in Conflict with Eritrea FAA Releases EgyptAir Tape SEARCH ABC.com EMAIL ABCNEWS.com SEND PAGE TO A FRIEND TOOLS AND HELPERS Peace Mission Delayed White House Postpones Jesse Jackson's Trip to West Africa The Rev. Jesse Jackson, shown addressing Connecticut lawmakers on April 26, is backtracking on remarks that offended Sierra Leone's government and many human rights activists and caused the White House to postpone his African peace mission. (Bob Child/AP Photo) By Rebecca Cooper W A S H I N G T O N, May 16 The White House has postponed presidential envoy Jesse Jackson's planned peace mission to West Africa due to controversial comments by the civil rights leader that have caused a rift with the government of Sierra Leone. "Reverend Jackson is going to delay his trip by at least a day," a senior Clinton administration official told ABCNEWS. "We thought it was useful to give the situation a day to vent and air out and then see where we are." As the White House spent today trying to salvage the mission, Jackson spent the day on the phone with reporters, backtracking from comments that infuriated not only the government of Sierra Leone, but human rights activists and others seeking peace in the small, violence-ridden but diamond-rich nation. Unwelcome Remarks On Friday, Jackson told reporters on a conference call that he hoped to bring rebel leader Foday Sankoh and his Revolutionary United Front into the mainstream of Sierra Leone politics. Jackson suggested a new peace agreement should allow the RUF to play a political role in the country similar to that of the African National Congress in South Africa. Sankoh has been roundly condemned by human rights groups, the United States and other observers for gruesome atrocities against civilian during Sierra Leone's eight-year civil war, including his practice of ordering RUF troops to chop limbs off any civilians suspecting of voting for the current government. But in his comments Friday, Jackson defended his plan to include Sankoh in peace negotiations, saying, "The voice of the RUF in Sierra Leone is Foday Sankoh's voice, and his voice would be a very positive one." Jackson further enraged the Sierra Leone government when he suggested that all parties including the current government share the blame for mutilations and killings of innocent civilians. "When you are trying to end these kinds of wars, when there's blood on every side and no clean hands, you must get the best resource you can to achieve the best end of getting us back around the table," Jackson told reporters. Misunderstanding Jackson was back on the phone today, this time holding a conference call with Sierra Leonan journalists to back away from his earlier remarks in an attempt to pacify both the government of Sierra Leone and other African and Asian nations providing U.N. peacekeeping troops in the region. Sankoh's forces have been blamed for recent killings of peacekeepers in Sierra Leone and the disappearance of hundreds of blue-helmeted U.N. soldiers, believed to have been taken hostage by RUF forces. Jackson began the call by making a prepared statement, saying, "I would like to clarify comments I made on Friday, May 12, which have apparently been misunderstood in Sierra Leone and elsewhere. First and foremost, I would like to make it clear that Foday Sankoh and the RUF alone are responsible for the current crisis in Sierra Leone." Jackson went on to explain: "There must be no misunderstanding about what I meant to convey when I mentioned the African National Congress in my [earlier] comments. The purpose was not to compare the RUF and the ANC. There is no equivalence between the two. My intention was merely to note that the ANC became a part of the political process. We cannot and will not give up our efforts to bring about a political solution to the problem in Sierra Leone. But it is up to the people and government of Sierra Leone to decide the contours of that solution." State Department Denials Officials from the State Department tried to deny that the delay of the Jackson mission was due to the political problems created by the envoy's comments. "Don'
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: E. COLI (HAMBURGER DISEASE)
-Caveat Lector- I read an intersting article in Time last year, about McDonalds international expansion and the impact they have had in China. Now we all want to earn our left-wing, liberal stripes by criticising McDonalds at every turn (and deservedly so) but the article was interesting in as much as it shows how: Chinese food stalls and restaurants have taken to the strange Western notion of washing their hands and making staff wash them after they use the toilet and; Rather than have everyone crowd around the counter yelling and waving money, which is the traditional Chinese way of doing things, customers have learned to que one at a time in McDonalds and now in other stores. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE!!!
-Caveat Lector- America Joins USSR, Nazi Germany, Red China KLINTON TO KILL 1ST AMENDMENT BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE!!! Article about the Indianapolis Baptist Temple (Can be read at The Joshua Report) http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ -- Michael & The Outlawlady The Joshua Report http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
