[CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
This has probably been a well discussed topic before, being new to the list please excuse this post if it is overkill...thought this was interesting. Interested in some of the thoughts of you list veterans. MadSci Network: Astronomy Re: Is it impossible to travel to the moon, because of the Van Allen Belt? http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/may2000/959341359.As.r.html Get Katchup in Your Inbox!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Katchup Need a Daily Pep Talk? List Info: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dailypeptalk Parents! Take a load off at the ParentCafeList Info: URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParentCafe My Chat Addresses: ICQ: 103814927 Y! Messenger: Kazzmir MS Messenger: Kazzmir AOL Messenger: xmulvax
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- How many people remember the Apollo - that 27th day of January, 1967 where three brave men died burnt alive and he cause? Sabotage and my research points directly to the KGB/Russian Mafia.keeping in mind also it was the 28th of January the Challenger explosed mid air as friends and family watched the astronauts deaths. I remember the English with their headline story Oh What a Flopnik when our first attempt failed - these parasites on the back of the American public dared to ridicule our space program but boy on the other hand, quick to ask the Yanks to go over and lay themselves doon a dee for the bastards..look to Ireland and see the evil face of the English and note how much money these parasites take from this country each year? Today now the propaganda machine moves to say we did not go to the moon - I had a brother in law that worked with the genius von Braun - we got their okay and at considerable cost in lives and in money...now who would not want us to get to the moon first? For it was mandatory we so do. Well the Russians had a propagandist out who was a phoney psychic named Jean Dixon who had been proclaimed a "divine prophetess"..who stated Russia Will Beat Us to the Moon - and oh, this was a flopnik .. Her evil went unchecked until I nailed the old bat for soothsaying and practicing astrology without a liciense and suddenly her divine status, was challenged..later she was caught stealing money from her Children to Chidren "foundation" and you know those foundations are often fronts for drugs, and are tax dodges, etc. So the charge is made we did not go to the moon? Why, because a German genius by the name of von Braun made this dream of JFK's possible? The day the Challenger went down Russian trawlers suddenly left the area just before the explosion which was noted by those in the area..why does our government keep this secret that our Apollo and Challenger were destroyed by KGB/Russian Mafia? So I have their timetable - and anyone with a driving curiosity and a brain can see connections in their communications for this is what it is all about communications and codes and sabotage - all time to the Communist Timetable, as it was once called - today just call it the Russian Mafiaand then check out their connection to the Mossad - Apollo - the Craft that Came to Naught.check out Albert Speer's Diary for a clue as to what this bible calendar code is all about - for the Rusian guard took away this code from the Baron while in Spandau... So today these lying bastards say we did not go to the moon - what was the movie with Barbara Streisands husband and O.J. Simp[son - where the space program was made to look corrupt - let us say by their fruits you shall know them all. By the garbage and trash you see on your tv today you shall know them all. I sitll remember when America's dream was to go to the moon but there are those who would put our children's eyes to the cess pools where sodomy and AIDS go hand in hand with Rosie O'Donnell on Sesame Street.. Garbage is as garbage doesthere was once a day when we looked to the stars - now daily this garbage in Hollywood and in the news media pushed the faces of little children in the mud and the cess pools of their own making. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MARC RICH AKA REICH - JEWISH MAFIA
-Caveat Lector-
If you are objectivei and read this story you will find Marc Rich aka
Reich who may have helped fund this Fourth Reich - odd his real name is
Reich but I am inclined to think there is yet another name involved
here.
Note the connection to The 300 and to Kissinger; to tell the truth, what
I remembre most about the 300 (Gideon and his 300 No Doubt namesakes
from the Judges - it was Gideon who stole the gold and no doubt today
would steal the oil, from the Ishmalites).
So this 300 a week prior to the shooting of Ronald Reagan, the front
page of the Columbus Dispatch had a story that the 300 or the 400 they
sometimes are called, told the President of the United States to change
his ways, or elseand tahe threat was there.
Then a day or two later, front page of the Columbus Dispatch said Castro
planned to assassinate Reagan and it was then I screamed out My God they
are going to shoot Reagan and blame Castro - bringing out two of my
"bosses", one retired FBI and the other a 33rd degree Mason Judge.
So - within a week Reagan was gunned down and worse yet, timed to a
bible code used by the 300,.even Walter Lippman, the obnoxious
jouornalist who warned us once "surely the democrats will be punished
and their offices taken away"...straight out of 109th psalm...and
poof - Teddy Kennedy was nearly murderer - again, for this was the 2nd
attempt - seems some do have the luck of the Irish.
Conspiracy - this is all conspiracy - this Marc Rich was he EVER US
Citizen? Now some profess not to know.
But I say this - this Jewish Mafia in Columbus back in 70 and 80 period
had ties to Meyer Lansky who was scouting oil and gas fields in Ohio and
in Kentucky and West Virginia .he would stay on a farm owned by a
Dr. Donald Plotnick, who had spent one year in same prison cell as Jimmy
Hoffa, whom it was alleged saved him from attack of the Italian
Mob.later was told this doctor spirited Hoffa up to Canada - and I
hope he did it, but the FBI tracked Hoffa to this man's farm and they
believed he was murdered there.
So these are nice people? But what I found most interesting is this -
these bastards had neo nazi literature in the basement of this
restaurant which I "accidentally" found - there were certain police too,
who brought up whisky from Kentucky - moonshine - and put in regular
bottls for the managerrip off number 2.
Then the murders beganbut the securities scams resulted in one
lawyer ending up in prison who got involved - and all this interest in
coal and gas and oil in Ohio and area by Lansky.eventually the
doctors got into trouble with the Mafia Hit Man, and went on trial for
murder...oh but none dare say J-ewish Mafia out loud..that is
forbidden?
So this is interesting item - but part I like at the end link to
Kissinger and the fact that these evil people hire journalists to scream
neo nazis, etc., at anyone who would come out against them.
Neo Nazis? Hey look the right direction - you think the Zionists care
about the jews - no way, just the very wealthy jews for look what they
have planned in the Holy Land to get the oil - kill them all, pave way
for the ZZionists - Neo Nazis of Past, Present and Future - i.e., Waltr
Lippman as classic example of a reallly good propagandist until he made
that one little slip - timed to the Communist Timetable.
These are the pigs at the trough and it seems to me now that Richie Rich
aka Marc Rich aka Marc Reich has his Hollywood propaganda machine out
paving the way for his martyerdom.
Remembre who it was who took the money to get this bastard off the
hook..tell me how someone gets a pardon from US President if he is
not US Citizenlook at Osama bin Laden - best they could do would be
to put 5 million dollar price on his head.
This little state of Israel consists of murderers and see how they
suppressed the murder of our men on the USS Liberty and same old tactics
used on the USS Cole in my opinion
Saba
George Soros and the Rothschilds Connection
By Jan Von Helsing ("Secret Societies and their Power in the 20th
Century")
Special Note : The author of this book is German. He claims he has
several jewish friends and is
not racist or prejudice, but often cites the Talmud as a guide book for
certain Jews and discusses a
Jewish Conspiracy that involves elements of Zionism and other conspiracy
issues as well. I do not
agree wholeheartedly with the author's entire beliefs, however alot of
the research on a variety of
other topics is VERY GOOD. We are seeking truth here and not Hatred or
prejudice, as a matter of
FACT, I was raised Jewish myself. For my views on the Jewish Conspiracy,
you will have to go Here
to find out, this is not the forum.
The now 64 year old Hungarian with a U.S. passport is the
superstar amidst the great speculators.
When the last "Forbes" list of the best paid managers and financiers was
published, Soros was in the
lead by a huge margin. In the last year he earned 550
[CTRL] Fwd: Labor Party Press - How Workers Won at Ravenswood (Book Review)
Ever hear of the Unions knocking this Marc Rich aka Reich aka who knows? Here is brief outline of his activities in America pertaining to workers at Ravenswood. This man Rich IS NOT a US Citizen but he sure wants his foot back in the door. The property of his wife (former) maybe should be consficated as without a doubt this money was virtually stolen from the American people - she is a song writer? Reminds me how the mob used to let Frank Sinatra win at the tables in Vegas - when you owed something to someone, such as a favor, let them win at the tables. This Rich is Jewish Mafia - and one thing I will NEVER forget is the Jewish Mafia's Black Hand in the murder of JFK and no doubt, little JFK Jr. and Princess of Walesnotice how conveniently those who would oppse these evil ones are murdered? Am still wondering why David Duke was so welcomed in the Soviet Union considering it was the KGB who formed a KKK for the Walker spies? Nothing much reported on this is there - another case which can only make one wonder futher what Jewish Mafia is doing with neo nazi literature?? Like little red arrows leading to scene of crime? Might add David Duke, Denise Rich and Marc Rich have one thing in comman - nose jobs.and face work...but I wonder, steel copanies in Ohio closing down now and this BASTARD Marc Rich playing games with American working men's lives? There should be open season on this Rich and his ugly floosie wife.these are two ugly people and alla the face work in the world cannot change this ugliness which sheds its dim light. Saba CurrentIssueArchivesLaborPartyHomeJointheLaborParty! Book ReviewHow Workers Won at Ravenswood 1999 Michael Kaufman, Impact VisualsBack in 1990, a few months after the Ravenswood Aluminum Company had locked out 1700 Steelworkers Union members, the women of Ravenswood, West Virginia, started to behave in unexpected ways. For instance, they'd get up in the middle of the night and dress in black from head-to-toe, including ski masks. Then they'd slip out of the house bearing cans of spray paint. And that's how all those references to the bosses "Sugar Booger" and "Rat Face" started appearing in huge graffiti letters on the sides of barns along the roadsides of Ravenswood. That was only the beginning of what turned out to be one of the most creatively fought and most successful labor struggles in recent history. The whole story is recounted with style and wonderful detail by Kate Bronfenbrenner and Tom Juravich in their new book Ravenswood: The Steelworkers' Victory and the Revival of American Labor. A Joy to Read It always seems like a great idea to write down the details of a fascinating labor struggle like the one at Ravenswood. Unfortunately it's not always such a wise impulse. Many such accounts are dust dry, conveying none of the thrill of a union battle. Not this book. Starting and ending with workers themselves, enriched by scads of funny and moving quotes, it's a joy to read. And thankfully, although these two seasoned labor activist/academics underlay their story with clear-eyed analysis, their theories and observations aren't the centerpiece. This is an earthy story about what a bunch of tenacious workers did to get their jobs back with the help of some of the labor movement's craftiest warriors. SABA NOTE::see Marc Rich Here Granted, Bronfenbrenner and Juravich have a lot of material to work with. There's Marc Rich, the secretive billionaire fugitive from justice who controls Ravenswood from a mountaintop mansion in Switzerland. There's the eight-foot puppet of Mother Jones, which had to be sawed in half to fit on the plane to Switzerland. There's the nerve of workers handing out "wanted" posters of Marc Rich at high-society London cocktail parties. Back at home, workers kept a close eye on the Ravenswood plant by dressing up as fishermen and floating up and down the Ohio River on their boats, reporting suspicious activities back to the local. Meanwhile, the union nailed the company for pouring cyanide into the river and mobilized thousands of people to come to "Fort RAC" to be entertained by the Paw Paws, a bluegrass band made up of union-militant grandpas. Laura McClure Ravenswood is published by Cornell University Press, Sage House, 512 E. State Street, Ithaca, NY 14850; 607-277-2211. Copies are $29.95 each; postage is $3.50 for the first book, an additional 75 cents for each additional book. You can also order copies from online booksellers. Top of Page January 2000 Labor Party Press PressArchivesHomeJoinEndorsingUnionsBodiesLinksDocumentsContact http://www.igc.apc.org/lpa/lpv51/lpp51_ravenswood.html
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- How many people remember the Apollo - that 27th day of January, 1967 where three brave men died burnt alive and he cause? According to Dr. Fred Bell in a lecture given in St. Paul, MN in May 1998, there were fires on the Apollo launching pad EVERY DAY leading up to the death of the three astronauts. At the time Bell was working directly with Wernher Von Braun and complained to the German genuis about the lack of safety measures. Von Braun brushed him off because of the rush to get to the moon. Bell quit NASA shortly before the disaster. In his recent book former astronaut L. Gordon Cooper described von Braun as a great guy and the one most responsible for saving our space program. However, Fred Bell says von Braun was pissed about the way he was treated after he surrendered to U.S. forces at the end of World War II. "He still had an attitude about that," said Bell. Bottom line: we went to the moon. However, that does not mean all the "moon" photographs NASA has made available are genuine. Some of the ones I have seen have more than one source of light: either the moon has an additional sun that is hidden from earth, or artificial light was used. It's no big deal actually. If the pictures didn't turn out NASA simply may have done a "reenactment" like TV does to get better photos. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
In a message dated 2/26/01 7:33:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the pictures didn't turn out NASA simply may have done a "reenactment" like TV does to get better photos. Pictures are doctored. We went to moon. we found alien artifacts NASA covered it up. Carl
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- For the record, nowhere in the Bible does it specifically say MM was a prostitute. She is described as either a "sinner" without the specific sinner named, or as "out of whom went seven devils." This could mean she was a member of a pagan cult before she met Jesus. Whether or not her cult included sacred prostitution is still a matter of speculation. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- Remember Rahab was supposedly a "harlot" which also had a very different meaning in biblical times - for she was an innkeepers daughter. She was also the one who hid the spies - also once some guy out of Dallas kept sending me a red cord - always thought he was trying to say something - for he was a preacher. And then when you look at the last supper always remember Judas, has the bag - the evil kiss of death - da Vinci in his painting portrayed them well 7 devils? Maybe they were Irish? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- Way back it was reported that CBS and maybe some of the other major networks (only 3 at the time in our area at least) had used simulated pictures - and gotten caught and admitted to same. As for von Braun (and that little v designates nobility) he had a choice - for he could have gone to the Russian cause but chose America. He was a German and not a Nazi; further, during WWII he once said he would rather go to the moon than win the war - fpr von Braun was a real nobleman and not a nazi peasant. Today we have those who would attempt to destroy the image of the space program and the first to so do was a Civil Rights movement who wanted money spent on the ground as if welfare was not already draining this country dry. I would rather go to the moon and stars and leave the ones who want to wallow in the mud to so do. This Cold War was a very vicious war; I know of one former CO and Andrews AFB and his wife both drug off a train who escaped using the underground in Europe; this same thing happened to my sisters who traveled once to Slpain - in France hostile forces who knew who they were pretended not to speak English though once, they had. This Bell had hostilities - these astronauts were trained well and were loyal to their country and more than just the three, died for same. Maybe they were not as well known as those who died on the USS Liberty - here we see the enemy face to face - and the men who later then died on USS Cole regardless it has been sabotage and/or murder. My brother in law forbid me to say the Apollo was sabotaged keyed to this bible timetable I have (Acts 19 and throw in Acts 16 for a clue to works of propagandists)...all timed date wise and two forces at work - the KGB caused the murder ofo the astronauts in cahoots with the Mossad or this thing called Jewish Mafia Later I was told that a highschool in Huntsville had been named in honor of othe three Astronauts.Now as for the Challenger - round up the ususal suspects...these people are good at sneak attacks. When I got into deep water was when I stated a member of the Teamsters Union had been involved - and boy it hit the fan - Frank Fitzsimmons was then told by J. Edgar Hoover that I had cleared a security check, that I was getting information on my own and not satisfied with that - this hoodlum sent out two Teamster hoodlums with shoulder guns to attempt to intimidate mehowever, the one was a mason, so he said he was also Mafia..golly gee. So I hit the truth when I ran across this very curuous Gideon Bible timetable - we now reign supreme in the heavens - no need for soldiers anymore to fight the dirty ground wars. And these bastards - these people out to make a fast buck - claiming we did not go to the moon? Ought to take the bastards up there and dump them with their little cameras. One way tickets. As for von Braun, he died right before he was scheduled to come into the area in which I livie; my brother in law made it possible that I would get to meet him - but he did not live to make the trip. I always loved the Red Baron and I have his photograph and von Braun - both were aristocrats and of the nobility - which has nothing to do with great wealth, but a way of life. A man such as von Braun who wanted to go to the moon should not be judged with the Nazi Zionists who murdered their own - at least the ones who did not have the money to buy themselves a one way ticket to Zion (Israel). This planet is dying.but the one thing it will leave behind are memories of what it could have been..people hated von Braun for his genius - his great intellect..compare von Braun to this jewish assassin and low class hoodlem Marc Rich aka Reich of the so called 4th Reich who attempted to destroy the US Steelworkers - and wonder why there is not a certain amount of hatred directed at him and at his floosie wife - class tells. Take another good look at Jonestown, and those were Jewish Nazi Doctors at Jonestown who got away while the American doctors died - this was according to my old MI6 friend who had the scoop on the entire matter. About Jonestown - Mark Lane (real name Levy) he alone virtually escaped to write the book and tell the truth, his authorized version - he tries to pass himself off as CIA but the man has a way to be there when - well let us say he was with Larry Flynt, Dorothy Kilgallon, etc., at Jonestown, and connection through a gentleman in Michigan to Heaven's Gate? Why no big memorial to von Braun - and yes, why no big memorial to our boys in WWII who died - they were told they were dying for freedom? they died because zionism laid the traps. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-
[CTRL] [Fwd: Final Election Results]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Final Election Results Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:38:50 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Friday, January 19, 2001 FINAL ELECTION RESULTS Al Gore: 50,996,116 George W. Bush: 50,456,169 In the nationwide popular vote, Gore received 539,947 more votes than Bush. Source: The Associated Press A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Burma protects Drug Cartel, Asia's largest Bkk post
Ok so here we have it from the horse's mouth. Now the thing is that if I had just a few contacts I could take a whole lot of Akha villages out of this game. One of the things that I am doing here to do that is the establishment of a full on village route. Now have 250 villages in the circuit with 30 to 50 more to go. For this I am working on raising funds for special built hummer that will cost around $20,000 US, just a little more than a 4 wheel drive toyota. So I am looking for any contact from the west who wants to put their money where their mouth is in getting the Akha out of the drug equation. One last thing, if this is the case, the the burma blockade is the best thing the burmese and the cartel could hope for because with the blockade there are gobs of hilltribe poor enough to keep growing opium. Matthew Cartel security seen to be Burma's goal Fighting meant to help Wa traffickers Thai and foreign security officials are now convinced the primary goal of the fighting in northern Burma is to protect and allow the expansion of Asia's first effective drug cartel. The Burmese army and their United Wa State Army allies are clearly prepared to exchange a brief drop in cross-border trafficking during the fighting for the expectation of greater freedom to make and move bigger drug shipments. "They will cut back smuggling for the moment, by necessity," said a diplomatic source yesterday. The fighting has heightened security by the Thai military and police, and closed off some regular trafficking routes from Burma into Thailand. "They are betting that when this is all over, they will have better control in Burma, and get back to the business of making and marketing heroin and speed pills, only more than ever." In recent weeks, India has joined Thailand and China in protesting the huge cross-border trafficking of drugs. Not only have these three countries become major transit points, drug use, abuse and addiction has also risen rapidly to epidemic proportions in their border regions and cities. "Synthetic drugs are coming into India in a major way through Burma," said R. Sundaralingam, a drugs consultant to the Interpol Secretariat. C. Chakrabarty, an Indian member of the UN International Narcotics Control Board, said India has turned from transit point to heroin consumer. Experts who met on the sidelines of last week's regional meeting of Interpol in Bangkok said that initial reports indicated the Burmese offensive against the Shan State Army was critically timed. "The opium crop was picked and in their (Wa) hands, just before the border fighting started," said a Western source. In addition, they had sent a huge flood of methamphetamine and similar pills to China, India and Thailand, so that a short break in trafficking will hardly be noticed by drug pushers and abusers. When the fighting ends, Burma expects the Shan to be defeated or at least in disarray in provinces of the northeast. The Wa army-which is to say the drug cartel-will be far more secure, in control of a much greater geographical area. The military campaign increases the pressure on the new Thaksin Shinawatra government. Thailand seeks to stop drug trafficking from Burma, which is the country's top security threat. Burma has tolerated-some believe encouraged-the massive drug smuggling by the Wa in order to gain the group's political support. It does not seem possible to reconcile the policies. Thailand is diplomatically hobbled, because it must not openly encourage the SSA-even though it is the only group which can harass the drug trade inside Burma itself. Before the latest fighting, Burma was already in the process of forcing Shan natives out of the northeast, so ethnic Wa could move into the opium-growing area. The Shan are being forcibly relocated further south. The combination of amphetamine factories and effective control of most poppy-growing highlands means the USWA is by far the biggest, and most diverse drug cartel in Asia's history. -- http://www.akha.com http://www.akha.org Donations by check or money order may be sent to: The Akha Heritage Foundation PO BOX 6073 Salem OR 97304 USA By Visa Card Secure Site: https://www.givetocharity.com/cgi-bin/give.pl?CODE=10956 To subscribe send mesage to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/26/01 7:06:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He was a German and not a Nazi; yea, sure, he just wore the uniform for pictures and parades . . . Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] von Braun not a Nazi?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Aleisha Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax? Way back it was reported that CBS and maybe some of the other major networks (only 3 at the time in our area at least) had used simulated pictures - and gotten caught and admitted to same. As for von Braun ...He was a German and not a Nazi; further, during WWII he once said he would rather go to the moon than win the war - fpr von Braun was a real nobleman and not a nazi peasant. This Bell had hostilities - these astronauts were trained well and were loyal to their country and more than just the three, died for same. Yes, Fred Bell dislikes German Nazis; according to the book The Promise by Brad Steiger, about the life of Fred Bell, his father was killed in Egypt by Nazis before Fred was born in 1943. They also made several attempts on Fred's life because he was given access to artifacts inside the pyramids that the Nazis badly wanted. However, Bell has had "special protection" throughout his life by others interested in the outcome of such power struggles. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What Hath Women Wrought? (Final Version)
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/wrought.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/wrought.html"What Hath Women Wrought?/A - "My senior year, I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret I cant say anything more. It was a chance to make fourteen new friends." George W Bush, Adjudicated 43rd President of the United States What Hath Women Wrought? RA Kris Millegan 2/2001 Georgie, Porgie, pudding and pie, Kissed the girls and made them cry. When the boys came out to play, Georgie, Porgie ran away. KA-THUNK! The sound brought my attention to the very building which brought me to New Haven in the first place, "The Tomb," an expanded mausoleum, housing Yale's oldest senior secret society, The Order of Skull and Bones. Out came a young, serious coed leaving the building into the cold afternoon snowscape. That started me wondering, what hath the ladies wrought? What had been the effect of allowing females into that venerable male bastion? In 1991, the 15 outgoing members "tapped" 6 gals and 9 guys in early April as their replacements. Retribution came fast, the locks were changed on the heavy doors at High Street and board spokesman Reverend Sid Lovett (SB 1950) declared, "There was no election. There is no society [next year]." The "disagreement" caused more mainstream ink about the secret group's activities ever. There were stories in Time, Newsweek and The Economist. Even People magazine ran a 2-page spread about the Bones tiff in May, '91, whilst Bonesman GHW Bush(SB 48) sat in the Oval Office . . . with no comment. Walking around today at Yale, one can see and feel a strong feminine presence. Yale has been coed since 1969, the year after George W Bush (SB 1968) graduated. By 1991 the undergrads were 45% female and a feeling on campus was that "gender differences between friends of different sexes is not a dominant issue." The Bones crowd, as was Yale by 1991, a diverse group of races, creeds and sexual orientation. Also the "Tomb" had become a bone of contention with feminists and there had been a break-in by some determined ladies, who took pictures and spread "rumors." The board had offered an early compromise of separate his and hers secret societies but that was rejected by the then seniors, who went ahead, "tapped" the ladies and were locked-out of their High Street hideaway. The "locked-outs" vowed to continue and they were soon offered the use of another senior society's [Manuscript] secret clubhouse. A then senior Bonesman contended, "It makes sense to be co-ed because the world is co-ed." One view on the other side a Patriarch DC lawyer felt "the admission of women would lead to date rape in the medium-term future." A vote-by-mail by the 800+ strong Bones alumni produced a narrow vote in favor of the admittance of the co-eds. The "old guard" cried foul, filed charges that the "mail vote" was against "Bones-by-law" and scuttled the September 92 plans to initiate the ladies. Finally in November a second vote was taken, with members having to either appear in person or send a proxy by another Bonesman, at the "Tomb" and another slim decision was made to admit t he gals. The 2000 senior group, outed by Rumpus, Yales tabloid, included at least six women and maybe more. The Rumpus printed two different lists and some names could be either male or female. And it seems, judging from a list of Wolf Heads members for the year 2001, that Wolfs Head the last all-male senior secret society at Yale, has also gone co-ed. What has been the effect? Do the women tapped for Bones follow the "old guidelines" of captains of ball teams, a Yale Lit editor, maybe a radical (for excitement?), some old-blood money with a few minorities tossed in now and then? Is there a new sexual element? What about the sexual confession times? Is there a hot time on High Street now? Has the "nude mud wrestling" in the basement changed to "playtime in the dungeon?" Does the narrow vote show a political change at stodgy Bones? Will Bones be taken-over by radical-amazons? What hath the women wrought? "My senior year, I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret I cant say anything more. It was a chance to make fourteen new friends." George W Bush, Adjudicated 43rd President of the United States Om RA Kris Millegan www.ctrl.org 2/2001 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Hidden Wars of Iraq-gate
Iraq-gate and Iran-Contra share aspects of Bush-Harari strategic weapons pipeline, Op Watchtower, a permutation of guns/drugs drugs/guns and Victory Redefined Another Vietnam Another Golden Triangle. -Bob http://www.almartinraw.com/ Behind the Scenes in the Beltway by Al Martin Why Iraq Was Recently Bombed A Blast from the Past According to the Friendly Colonel, the real motivation behind the recent bombing of Iraqi missile installations was an attempt to destroy certain weapons systems the US had sold to Iraq through Russian arms dealers via the Redstone Arsenal at Huntsville, Alabama. (See "Fraud-As-Usual at Redstone Arsenal") In fact, these weapons systems were sold in order to help Iraq maintain tension and thus justify the continuing US military buildup in the Middle East, particularly US ground forces. The word is that UN teams were about to launch another inspection of Iraqi military sites. If they found US military technology there, they would be bound to ask embarrassing questions. Thus the air strikes and bombing were simply a way to destroy the evidence. The US is selling weapons essentially to maintain tension in the Middle Eastern theater -- to justify increases in the US defense budget, and to divert attention from congressional and other investigating committees which are investigating not only what is going on the Redstone Arsenal, i.e. illegally selling weapon systems to other nations, but also investigating the Department of Defense regarding their expenditures. As Senator Byrd noted and the GAO Report stated quite clearly, there is $2.3 trillion of DoD spending that could not be accounted for during the past 10 years. Regarding the Middle East, the US military wanted to get bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. It wasn't Desert Storm that made it possible to do so. The only reason that was possible was leaving Saddam Hussein in power. It gave the US the ability to build military bases on Saudi and Kuwaiti territory. Saddam was kept in power because of the larger US geo-economic and geo-military interests. In order to exercise those interests, the United States had to have the ability to base ground troops in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, or the Arab Emirates. They had to have a rationale. This would also de-emphasize Israel, which is what the Republicans have wanted to do. The Republicans pay lip service to Israel only because of the American Jewish vote. Behind the scenes, the Republicans have always wanted to back away from Israel. They have long since felt that Israel has too much influence in the region and the US is forced to rely too much on Israel. Ergo, Israel is able to extract $2 billion of US aid every year plus a whole panoply of other gifts and grants. It's not the money. It's the influence itself which was becoming a problem. There is a large anti-Jewish sentiment within the Republicans particularly within the conservative wing of the Republican Party. Regarding the Gulf War, the Bush Sr. Administration said that the reasons the US didn't go in and get Saddam is because the American people were beginning to complain about the number of casualties we were inflicting on the Iraqis. It was a cover story pure and simple. The truth is that the United States wanted Saddam to remain in power because there was only one shot to take Saddam out. He had to be liquidated. He couldn't be captured even though he was under indictment in the United States for a variety of charges and also under indictment in the World Court. But the United States couldn't afford to have Saddam a prisoner and thus be able to talk about his relationship with the Reagan-Bush Regime. The only prisoner of war in the United States, Manuel Antonio Noriega, isn't really a parallel either. The government had a long time to cover its bases before going after Noriega. That's why they waited so long. By the time they went after Noriega in 1989, the Reagan-Bush Regime was able to distance itself from Noriega before going after him. A lot of documents had been shredded. A lot of the key interlinks between Noriega and the Reagan-Bush Regime had been hushed up or paid off or liquidated or imprisoned or discredited. There was enough cover that the US could launch an invasion in order to seize Noriega. Then the government has the ability to put him before whomever they wanted They made sure they got a Republican judge. They made sure they got a judge who would deny Noriega the ability to put on a CIA Defense. Noriega attempted to claim that he had a long standing relationship with the CIA vis-a-vis using Panama as a trans-shipment point CIA-sponsored guns and drugs operations, including Oliver North's guns-for-drugs operation. There had to be vindictiveness against Noriega to justify the over $200 million that was spent going after him and the 36 American casualties. It was framed as a military maneuver, but it was actually the most expensive and costly extradition in the history of the United States -- $236 milion of
[CTRL] Is This The Bible Calendar Code the Oh So Secret Communist Timetable
It seems strange to me that one never reads of this bible calendar code - nor does one read of the bible watchword codes - nor does one read of the Communist Timetable of events. Today in searching web for any information to do with calendars, I came up with this one reference that is so close to the truth of the matter - considering the calendar code I have came from the Gideon Bible - you know, Gideon and his 300 who stole the golden earrings from the Ishmalites and now goes after their oil? This year we were to have Gore and Lieberman as President and Vice President and using the astrologers mark of doom and gloom, Gore would have been let us say removed from office by some accident or illness or maybe worse - and Lieberman, the Holy Man, the Zionist, would be President for this is the Millennium Above the signature line - in the last paragraph you see veiled what this bible calendar code is.it is a masonic calendar, keeping in mind that Bnai Brith is Masonic...and if these people have their way every voice questioning murders, assassinations, the acts of pushing sodomy on our children, etc., would result in imprisonment no doubt, for those daring to seek knowledge. So there are those who want George Bush (and he is not a Jr.) to look back and wallow in the works of the Sodomites - he does the right thing - go straight ahead - and protect the Boy Scouts and the Children of America from the Sodomists who have infiltrated Chidren's Programing now - we all remember PeeWee Herman arrested in a sleazy sex house whom they tried to push off on the children - you could tell that guy was sick by looking at him - and now we have Rosie O'Donnell dressed like Cat in Hat - all part of a master plan. But the bible is their master plan - and here is a clue as to who does what? If the National Council of Churches is in on this, or this World Council of Churches - they should be exposed. But our three astronauts, like Shadrach, Meschent and Abenego thrown into the fiery furnacekeep wondering why Jack Rubenstine also known as Jack Ruby of Jewish Mafia, said over and over again in his prison cell "Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego"over and over again..John Glenn seemed to understand me when I spoke to him once on telephone for over 45 minutes - and such a gentleman to listen to me for so long, but before he hung up he said "remember, I was with Bobby when he was killed"and you know, I had forgotten that but now I remember it was said he left a solitary figure - then I remembered the Lindburgh baby and this is how we treat heros in this country? As for that 6 million jews dying in WWII I am so sick of that crap for 55 MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN THAT WARdi.d the jews ever build a shrine to them ?No too busy getting reparations and then we have Marc Rich aka Reich who runs 4th Reich? Well we already knew didn't we hat Hess and Hitler were Aske-nazi jews - called Zionists? Saba Christians Are Starting to Eat the Lions (Part 3) PART 1 PART 2 PART 3 One of the greatest tools of a "misinformation" artist is the "Racist" label. If someone attacks your platform and questions your motives just call him a racist and the majority of his audience tunes out what he has to say. One of the masters of this are the "Jews". Contrary to the "public" line, the majority of the people that have "occupied" Isreal are not real Jewish people. Consider the following article from Norio Hayakawa. REBIRTH OF ISRAEL, JEWS AND "ANTI-SEMITISM" Here is an interesting quote from Jack Bernstein from his short but informative booklet entitled THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW (The Noontide Press, 1991): "It is important for us to understand that Jews are not one race of people. There are two distinct groups of Jews in the world and they come from two different areas of the world - the Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa, and the Ashkenazi Jews come from Eastern Europe. The Sephardic is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are the Jews described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs..- the only difference between them is religion. The Ashkenazi Jews, who now comprise 90% of the Jews in the world, had a rather strange beginning. According to historians, many of them Jewish, the Ashkenazi Jews came into existence about 1200 years ago. It happened this way: At the eastern edge of Europe, there lived a tribe of people known as the Khazars. About the year 740 A.D., the Khazar king and his court decided they should adopt a religion for their people. So, representatives of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, were invited to present their religious doctrines. The Khazars chose Judaism, but it wasn't for religious reasons. If the Khazars had chosen Islam, they would have angered the strong Christian world. If the Khazars had chosen Christianity, they would have angered the strong Islamic world. So, they played it safe: They chose Judaism. It wasn't for religious
[CTRL] Fwd: GroomWatch : Home Page for Norio Hayakawa
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON NORIO HAYAKAWA.who seems to know more than he can say - but he is into Area 51 and obviously has a few connections. This bible calendar code - this Communist Timetable - went into full force in 1963 with the slaughter of JFK in the streets of Dallas.it went into force also right before Korea when the plan was to "mongrelize" the black and white race - even the Great Farrakhan knew thatthe idea was to absorbe the "colored race" but in so doing, destroy the white race. The biggest piece of garbage they ever pulled was the marriage of Michael Jackson to the daughter of Elvis Presley and their first kiss was something to behold for lititle Lisa almost choked on what was obviusly their first kiss - oh this marriage made in heaven - saba CLICK THE ABOVE LOGO FOR MORE INFO ON THE 2000 PEOPLE'S RALLY Groom Lake Facility and Area 51 Researcher Courtesy of EagleNet : Citizens Against the New World Order NOTE TO VISITORS FROM NORIO: Norio now has a new personal website which can be reached at the following URL. http://hometown.aol.com/norio1944/myhomepage/profile.html You can also reach Norio at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as his old email address no longer exists. Norio has retired from doing more research on Area 51. If you are still interested in finding more up to date information about Area 51 and Groom Lake please visit The DreamLand Resort Website. Norio has handed over his research to them. If you would like a copy of his old files you can still get them at the URL below, but Norio does not know when if ever he will make any more updates to the internet. Thanks again. http://www.eaglehost.com/groomwatch/index-backup.html From Norio Hayakawa and his webmaster, Todd Jumper. http://www.eagle-net.org/groomwatch/
[CTRL] Conservative Democrats: Drop gun control bills
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, February 25 Conservative Democrats: Drop gun control bills By Eunice Moscoso, Palm Beach Post Washington Bureau Sunday, February 25, 2001 WASHINGTON -- Some conservative Democrats have three words of advice for their party leaders: Drop gun control. "This is not an issue that helps the Democratic Party, particularly in rural America," said Rep. Jim Turner, D-Texas. "Those of us who believe in the Second Amendment and the right of gun ownership have been pretty outspoken in telling our friends this is an issue they need to leave alone." Turner and fellow House Democrats and Texans Ralph Hall and Max Sandlin are concerned about renewed efforts to push gun control in Congress. Two powerful senators -- Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz. -- are working on a bill that would increase background checks at gun shows and provide additional money to enforce existing laws. In addition, Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., plans to introduce a measure that would mandate background checks for all buyers at gun shows and expand the definition of a gun show to include events, such as flea markets and swap meets, where firearms are not the main product sold. The Texas lawmakers say gun control efforts have hurt Democrats, including former Vice President Al Gore. "If the Democrats and the Gore campaign had not been so strident in opposition to gun rights . . . there's absolutely no doubt that Vice President Gore would be president," Sandlin said. "It cost him a tremendous amount of support across the South." Sandlin said that passing any gun control bill will be difficult, especially in the House. In the last Congress, with the Clinton White House clamoring for gun control, a bill never made it out of a conference committee. The measure started out strong in 1999, when gun control took the spotlight in Congress after the shooting tragedy at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. A month after the shooting, the Senate stunned the powerful gun lobby and voted for a juvenile justice bill that included provisions such as increasing background checks at gun shows. But the measure never made it through the House, and efforts to incorporate it into a joint House-Senate juvenile justice bill failed. With President Bush in the White House, chances for a gun control bill could be even more bleak. As governor of Texas, Bush generally sided with the National Rifle Association, signing bills that allow people to carry concealed weapons and prevent municipalities from suing gun makers. But supporters of gun control say that the issue has momentum because of increasing public support. "The gun issue works in different places in different ways," said Joe Sudbay, public policy director for the Violence Policy Center, a gun control group based in Washington. Women across the country strongly support gun control, as do urban and suburban voters, he said. Sudbay disputes that supporting gun control cost Gore the White House. The swing states of Pennsylvania and Michigan voted for Gore despite a strong anti-Gore campaign there by the NRA, he said. Some conservative and moderate Democrats, including Hall, say they are willing to listen to ideas about further regulation of gun shows and trigger lock requirements. "I understand that handguns are a problem. People get killed with them. Children get killed with them. And I think we ought to continue to pursue something on it," Hall said. But Hall also said he would have a hard time voting for "anything that violates or dents the Second Amendment" because the ultimate goal of gun control proponents is to outlaw possession, as the nation's capital has done. "I'm here in Washington, D.C. -- probably the most dangerous city in the northeastern part of the country after darkness falls -- with a painted glass between me and the outside world . . . and I can't have a gun in my home. Give me a break," he said. Turner said he hopes his party will focus on other matters. "The Democrats desperately need to unite behind issues that have a broad base of support within our caucus," he said. "There's a large number of Democrats who are strong supporters of the Second Amendment." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 2001, The Palm Beach Post. All rights reserved. 2001 Cox Interactive Media A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] ASSASSINATION IN ALASKA
-Caveat Lector- "ASSASSINATION IN ALASKA" Connect the Dots: Clinton, Hoover, Ford, FBI, CIA, JFK Vietnam The POW/MIAs KILLING OUR OWN (Roe v Wade) Part IVd The Joshua Report http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ -- Michael The Outlawlady The Joshua Report http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The New Imperialism
-Caveat Lector- @ http://www.antiwar.com/nagle/pf/p-n022301.html }}Begin At The End of History by Chad Nagle Antiwar.com February 23, 2001 Musings On The New Imperialism and Post-Western World Government As I finish up this rather long and rambling piece, Im sitting in the Caf Odeon in Zurich, where Lenin used to drink coffee when he lived here before returning to Russia in 1917. Im getting ready to fly to Chisinau, Moldova, via Budapest this evening, and although that trip should produce a more down-to-earth piece for this column, at the moment I feel inspired to write about imperialism and the demise of the West. A vision has haunted me lately, so I hope Antiwar readers will indulge me while I try to crystallize it in an article with a little less vitriol than usual. A BRUSH WITH COMPLACENCY Shortly after the New Year, at the home of an old friend in Georgetown, I met a young woman whose husband worked in Clintons White House. She had that super-cheery, complacent demeanor I always associate with the younger Washingtonian set. She wasnt too keen on Bushs victory, obviously, because Clinton had done so many great things for everybody and Gore would have carried right on making the world a better place. But everything was going to be all right for her and her tired, disheveled, disillusioned-looking spouse, no matter who was in office in Washington. Later, after her husband had gone to a DC nightclub for a Clintonian farewell bash, the conversation turned to promoting democracy abroad. This somehow led me to comment in an ominous tone on how the world was ever more rapidly shaping up into north-south, as opposed to east-west. She scoffed condescendingly: "Oh, everybody knows tha-at." Now "socializing" is not my forte. The temptation to snap at smug fellow Americans can be overwhelming at times, and this was a time when decorum failed me. I asked this woman whether she had ever been anywhere in the "East" and, of course, she said no. Then I asked her how she could be so matter-of-fact about the prospect of basically the end of the "West." As she tried to formulate an answer, clearly incredulous that anyone could inject such unnecessary gravity into the cozy little scene, I told her Id been across the sewer of capitalist corruption we now call the former Soviet Union. And I said that even if she was happy about globalization ultimately meaning a merger with Eurasias vast dump, I wasnt. During the uncomfortable silence that briefly followed, it was understood by all present that I had poisoned the air. I remembered Blakes words "A truth thats told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent" and felt a brief pang of remorse. Thats the problem with these little social gatherings. It always seems better to make a scene than to be bored. WHITHER THE WEST? It was easier to identify the West when political and economic influence backed by projectable military power was divided between two "superpowers," just as its always easier to define yourself by what youre against than by what youre for. The Russians now have a "market economy," a "civil society" (non-governmental organizations), a "parliamentary democracy," and a written constitution, so things are in a definite gray zone where defining the West in relation to Russia is concerned. So what if a bunch of ex-nomenklatura are in charge in Russia? No different in NATO member Poland, where the West has accepted two election results in five years as proof that gray and dull President Alexander Kwasniewski a former minister of Communist Poland is overwhelmingly popular even though 70% of the population lives below the poverty line. Never mind that Kwasniewski was schooled in a system that used the results of sham elections as evidence of popular support, just like the rest of our client heads of state. From the beginning, Putin pledged his support for "free market" democracy and "reform," and that was good enough for our great leaders. Amid Western leaders fidgety responses to Putins early public suggestion that the Russian Federation might one day join NATO, the portentous question loomed: "Why not?" The images most Westerners probably summon to mind when they think of the West are things like decency, duty, loyalty, justice, honor, courage, and so forth. But these notions arent much good for distinguishing the West from other civilizations because every civilization will ultimately lay claim to such features. Going back to the Papal Revolution of the 11th Century and talking about a division of legal jurisdictions between secular and ecclesiastical authorities doesnt seem especially helpful in the modern era either. So better to define the West today by one overriding characteristic everybody can agree on a profusion of "legal fictions." "Enlightened self-interest," a cornerstone of the rule of
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove, Thank you for helping to clear the issue up about Mary Magdalene. I have been doing some research and find nothing of such reference in the Bible about her "profession". If memory serves me right, it was her mother who approached Jesus and asked him if he could help her daughter who suffered from demon possession. Therefore, in conclusion, being demon possessed is Mary Magdalene's only and greatest sin, according to the Biblical account. Also, it is interesting to note that Mary Magdalene was the first Apostle. The word Apostle meaning, "one sent forth". She was the first one sent forth with a message to the followers of Christ that he was alive and had been resurrected. Therefore, I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly have been the first Apostle. with regards, psephizo A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Da Triple Crown
-Caveat Lector- http://www.geocities.com/alanjpakula/triplecrown.html | New on this site! "Blast to the Future: Iraqgate" | | Must Read! Attorney Mark Levine's QA on the Supreme Court Ruling | | Bush attorney Ted Olson -- self-proclaimed Right Wing Conspirator | | The Florida Coup Guide | | Dan Moldea's "Bushology Interactive" | | How Bush Sr. raised funds, and the crooked company Katherine Harris hired to manage the voter registry | | FOIA Evidence! Was George W. Bush AWOL from the Guard? | (Updated 1/16/2001) Left crown: House Maj. Whip Tom DeLay(b/w) alt. with Senate Maj. Leader Trent Lott(color); Middle Crown: George W. Bush; Right Crown: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Graphic Layout compliments of Kathy at "We Will Remember" Org With Contempt For Our Democracy And The American People The Right Wing Elite That Tried To Bring Down Clinton Have Now Manipulated The "Coronation" Of George W. Bush Table of Contents Part I (This page): 1. America's First Families (Updated 7/2/2000) 2. Answering Nixon's Call (7/2/00) 3. A Shadow Government (9/1/00) 4. A "Liberal" Media? (4/6/00) 5. Pushing the Right on the Campuses (3/16/00) 6. The Federalist Society (3/16/00) 7. Newt's Impeachment Plans New! (9/23/00) 8. The "Coronation" of George W. Bush (2/29/00)) 9. Links related to this page (1/16/01) Part II (Next page): The Iran-Contra Gang Rides Again, the Council for National Policy the frightening power of Reverend Moon within the GOP. PLUS! Great collection of Bush Links! Other articles on this web-site: | New on this site! "Blast to the Future: Iraqgate" | | How did the Bush Campaign raise all that money? | | The Attempted Overthrow Of Bill Clinton | | Flyer: The Bush (Criminal) Family History | Banners/Bumper Sticker Designs: Click here: Free and Fun! America's First Families In the nearly three decades since the New Right movement began, the main objective has been for the Right Wing Elite to extend their influence throughout the higher levels of our society. These leaders of the New Right include (notorious Clinton hater) Richard Mellon Scaife, Paul Weyrich and the Coors, DeVos (Amway), Hunt (Oil), Koch (Oil), Krieble (Loctite), Noble, Olin Van Andel (Amway) families. In fact, oilman George Bush Sr. comes from this very same class of people. His tenure as CIA Director is but a small part of a long history with the Intelligence community, which has included Richard Mellon Scaife, and the other New Right leaders. It is highly unlikely that Bush would have been appointed CIA Director, without some prior experience within the Agency. Indeed, there have been reports that Bush was possibly a CIA operative since at least 1960. What's more, the Bush Family's CIA affiliation appears to originate with the OSS, the WWII Agency that preceded the CIA. Robert Lovett, the business partner of Bush's father Prescott, was an OSS Officer, along with Mellon Scaife's father Alan and their Mellon relatives. In fact, Paul Mellon was the OSS Station Chief in London. Prescott could not (officially at least) be involved in the OSS, since he was a Director of Union Banking. It was a major embarrassment for the Bush Family, when in 1942 Union Banking's assets were seized under the Trading With the Enemy Act, for collaborating with Nazi industrialists. [1] . (A few weeks later, another Bush venture had its assets seized as well). After the war, Prescott's partner Lovett headed a Committee bearing his name that recommended the creation of the CIA as the descendant of the OSS. Averell Harriman, another of Prescott's partners at "Brown Brothers Harriman", was likewise directly involved with the CIA. Given that many of Prescott Bush's cronies enjoyed a long association with the Agency, it is likely that Prescott was involved with the CIA as well. (Those interested in looking more deeply into the elite roots of the OSS and the CIA should read about Yale's "Skull and Bones" society -- a.k.a "the Bonesmen" [2] ). In the seventies, while George Bush Sr. was in the wings for the CIA Directorship, Richard Mellon Scaife ran Forum World Features, a CIA front for a European propaganda operation. There are also reports that Scaife was likely involved in the Heritage Foundation's funding of Iran-Contra, along with Heritage President Edwin Feulner. Contrary to what he still declares to this day, then-Vice President Bush Sr. was clearly "in the loop" of Iran-Contra, as Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger's notes demonstrated. Furthermore, Admiral John Poindexter claimed that he conferred directly with Bush about the Iran-Contra scheme. Also, Bush and his assistant Donald Gregg communicated regularly with Felix Rodriguez, the notorious ex-CIA agent at the heart of the Contra Supply operation [See Lawrence Walsh's "Firewall", W.W. Norton Co., 1997; pp. 271-272]. In recent years, the CIA Inspector General's Report confirmed that the Contras were trafficking in cocaine, under the watch of Oliver North and the CIA [3] .
[CTRL] bush
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bartcop.com/panties.htm GEORGE W. BUSH IN PANTY SCANDAL by DAVID WRIGHT A STUNNING PLAYBOY MODEL has unleashed the opening salvo in a campaign against George W. Bush - claiming she had a torrid 18-month affair with him that ended last June. Political experts say her sordid tale is just the beginning of a campaign that will be aimed at the front-runner during his run for the White House. "He's going to be vulnerable all the way up to the election," Dr. Larry Sabato, professor of government and foreign affairs at the University of Virginia, told The ENQUIRER. Former Watergate conspirator and radio talk show host G. Gordon Liddy agreed. "You look for a candidate's vulnerabilities -- and Gov. Bush has made statements like, 'I was young and foolish' that give credibility to a story of sexual promiscuity." Already the Internet is awash with rumors about Bush's personal life, including allegations of womanizing. However, the Republican contender is a genuine family man, say insiders. He married his wife Laura in November 1977, after knowing her 90 days. But with less than eight months to go to the 2000 election, the first big sexual broadside has been fired at the Bush bandwagon by 35-year-old Tammy Phillips, a partner in a gym in Carrollton, Tex. Tammy is a former stripper, who began dancing in clubs when she was only 14. She claims she was introduced to Gov. Bush by her uncle, a prominent Republican, in early December 1997 during a political function at a hotel in Midland, Tex. "I was wearing a tiny miniskirt -- and it was instant combustion," she told The ENQUIRER. Tammy alleges that she and Gov. Bush made passionate love that very first day. And her story becomes even more lurid. The next day, she says, the Texas Governor called her cell phone and made a date for a few days later -- asking her to wear the same red panties she'd worn when they first met. This time their rendezvous took place in the unlikely setting of the men's room at a Best Western in Houston, claims the torrid temptress. After it was over, she says, they went their separate ways -- with Gov. Bush allegedly taking her red panties with him as a sweet reminder. Six other similarly clandestine liaisons took place before their final one in San Diego last June, asserts Tammy. She stops short of claiming a great romance with the governor. "It was simply sex," she says. "It was the cheapest relationship you can imagine." Tammy -- who posed for Playboy lingerie and swimsuit issues between 1989 and 1992 -- told The ENQUIRER she was holding the "smoking gun" proof of the relationship: a handwritten note from Gov. Bush in which he mentions the red panties. Asked to produce the Bush note, Tammy would only say, "Not yet!" - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- --- JJ Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly have been the first Apostle. Based on what I've read in the Nag Hammadi Gospels http://www.gnosis.org the most likely culprit is Peter. You might also be interested in http://www.magdalene.org which is devoted to MM's spiritual role, and also has a mailing list. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PC privacy
-Caveat Lector- According to www.stopcarnivore.org/ there are only two (2) internet service providers in the US which have publicly stated that they will not permit the FBI's illegal carnivore equipment to be used to spy upon their customers: Earthlink.net and RMI.net (Denver). That's what they say, anyway. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [FreePalestine] Re: [Spy News] Syria was behind killings at Sabra and Chatilla.
-Caveat Lector- Well, I just read your rebuttal. Such as it is. If your intent was to convince that this story is a Mossad hangout, and untrue, you didn't convince me. As a matter of fact, you seem to corroborate the basic points. I wasn't sure as to the validity of the original story, but you sure helped firm it up. Even if that was not your intent. Keep your day jobs. J2 = Subject: Re: [FreePalestine] Re: [Spy News] Syria was behind killings at Sabra and Chatilla. Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 02:41:08 +0100 From: "INTELINK" [EMAIL PROTECTED] VERY RIGHT !!! SYRIA WAS BEHIND KILLINGS AT SABRA AND CHATILLA This operation was mounted by the SECOND DESK of syrian secret services and the "MAKTAB el-KHAS", who are attached to the ministry of interior. They where, and they still, specialy mounted and trained for psycological operations and underground killing activities. Ali Dhadha WAS the boss of 2nd DESK and still now in the Syrian head of Secret Service. He was the brain of this operation to destabilize ISRAEL. THIS IS THE THUE SHARON was NEVER implicated in those masacres. Jean-Paul NEY Journalist / Autor Webmaster of intelink.fr.st --- Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Site: http://www.intelink.fr.st Intelink.fr.st, tout sur le monde de l'espionnage, du renseignement, de la dfense et du contre-terrorisme --- Site du mois: http://www.iSecureLabs.com iSecureLabs.com, tout sur la scurit informatique en franais == Mashney wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: [FreePalestine] Re: [Spy News] Syria was behind killings at Sabra and Chatilla. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mashney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Nurev Ind Research, It seems that you need to do more research since the article below is a carefully planted Zionist-disguised-as-Lebanese wash designed to clean the blood-dripping butcher image of the true perpetrator of the massacres, the newly-elected prime Minster of the so-called "only democracy in the Middle East." BTW, the name "Frias" (below) is not Lebanese. Did you mean to write Firas or Faris? Take a pick :-) tony: sami, all- this article is even worse than how you describe it. please scroll down for my reply. Sami B. Mashney From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: [Spy News] Syria was behind killings at Sabra and Chatilla. Subject: Syria was behind killings at Sabra and Chatilla. Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Frias ED [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Syria was behind it 100 percent. New info shows it An LFP Exclusive (Lebanese Foundation for Peace) Direct Submission The Truth Behind Source: A retired Lebanese intelligence officer who is willing to testify at a trial of Elias Hobeika, if it takes place at an international court. tony: of course, the name of this "Lebanese intelligence officer" is not provided. maybe he is shy by nature. Perceived as the driving force in the murders at Sabra and Chatilla, General "Arik" Sharon has been condemned and discarded by accepted history. tony: no. by an ISRAELI inquiry comission. No matter that he is now the leader of the Likud party in Israel, no matter that he is the hero of manycampaigns that preserved Israel in the face of overwhelming odds, history's perception destroys his viability as deserving of the highest office of theland. The truth is that the massacre did indeed happen; tony: all kneel in owe for the carrier of the "truth" however, the perpetrator's were neither Israeli nor Lebanese rioters as reported. tony: they were not "lebanese rioters". they were members of a fascist political organization, and they were high on cocaine. The entire operation was masterminded by Syrian intelligence, as reported by a number of witnesses, and was carried out ruthlessly and efficiently by a Lebanese stooge of Syria named Elias Hobeika. tony: what "witnesses"? how did they witness the syrian intelligence mastermind the operation? elias hobeiqa only aquired his "stooge" status in the late 80's, after the tri-party agreement (al ittifaq al thoulathy) between the lebanese forces, amal, and the jumblattis. the accord was aborted when an uprising against hobeiqa took place in east beirut; it was organized by samir geagea, who later became the "leader maximo". furthermore, during the 1982 israeli invasion, the syrian army in beirut was the first to leave; the city was succesfuly defended by a coalition of left wing parties and palestinian organizations. The most
Re: [CTRL] SK: Did humans hunt giant mammals to extinction,orgive them lethal desease?
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- If this were true, the mega fauna of Africa would have been exterminated long ago. Mankind has been in Africa longer than it has been anywhere. This sentence is only true about Negroids. Not necessarily about the other races. Black Africans are indisputably the oldest of the modern Homo Sapiens. You're only HALF right. The second sentence is theoretical speculation. Until more data come in, it's the only theoretical speculation with an empirical basis. But, yes, we should withhold final judgement. Th data are not all in. No one knows what might turn up. New discoveries in Australia seem to indicate that the ' out of Africa ' model is turning out to be untrue. Apparently ' mankind ' or our immediate ancestors developed in several places several places simultaneously. I was never really convinced of the Out of Africa theory. It didn't account for the physical differences of the races in the time frames given. What do you think? J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] von Braun not a Nazi?
-Caveat Lector- As for von Braun ...He was a German and not a Nazi; further, during WWII he once said he would rather go to the moon than win the war - fpr von Braun was a real nobleman and not a nazi peasant. Von Braun was an avid Nazi. He was an officer in the SS. He was also a Class-A war criminal. He used slave labor to build V-2s and Camp Dora. Every morning von B's SS crew hung twenty slaves at random with piano wire to "encourage" the others to work harder. For an eyewitness account, read Dora by Jean Michel ISBN 0-03-055596-5 A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SK: Did humans hunt giant mammals to extinction,orgive them lethal desease?
-Caveat Lector- What do you think? There aren't enough data in yet to draw a valid conclusion. But humanity is a lot older, and has been getting around the planet for a lot longer time, than most people are willing to admit. The Sundra straight cannot be crossed by chance drifting. The current won't let you. You have to row or sail. There are 60,000 year old hearths in Australia. Ergo, boats go back at least that far. Then there's Lucia, a skull from Brasil that is clearly of Australian origin and predates the "Indian" population by several thousand years. Probably the best solution is to redefine sapiens to include erectus, and to radically reevaluate erectus's capabilities. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly have been the first Apostle. There's another explanation. The pagans who lived in the area practiced ritual prostitution as part of their religion. The money went to temple maintance and to charity. She could have been a practitioner, or even a priestess. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Militarized Media
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/szamuely/sz022301.html February 23, 2001 TURNING THE TABLES What if they sank an American ship? Imagine our outrage if a Russian submarine had smashed into a Japanese fishing trawler while surfacing and killed nine people, including four high-school students! Imagine if the Russians had then made no attempt to save survivors! Suppose further that it was revealed that the accident took place not during a military exercise but during a joyride to show off Russian military prowess to wealthy chums of President Putin. Acres and acres of newsprint, hours and hours of airtime would be given over to self-satisfied condemnations of the Russians for their recklessness. How could they have been so irresponsible as to allow civilians into the control room, to encourage them to get their hands on the controls and even to pull the levers during a particularly dangerous submarine maneuver? William Safire would weigh in with profound reflections, doubtless over a series of columns, about the low value Russians seem to place on human life a legacy of their oriental despotic past, so unlike our own happily individualist one. We would be told that Russians are just downright lazy and irresponsible. There would be innumerable smug laments about the current sorry state our once formidable adversary. Anne Applebaum would sternly admonish the Russians to give up their imperial ambitions and simply let Americans come in and carry out the thoroughgoing "Westernization" that they need so badly. However, even though the destruction of the Ehime Maru was merely the most recent instance of US military recklessness towards civilians and particularly foreign ones editorial writers and columnists have been extraordinarily sparing in their indignation. To be sure, there have been the pro forma demands for a full "inquiry" as well as earnest advice to the Bush Administration to do whatever is necessary to soothe Japanese ruffled feathers. But, with few exceptions, the pundits have been quiet. No one has even raised the issue of the vaunted professionalism and effectiveness of the US military. When it comes to the military, the media can always be relied on to act as cheerleaders. During the bombing of Yugoslavia journalists did not think it unusual that we bombed a refugee convoy, pulverized a passenger train in broad daylight, blew up the offices of Serbian state television, and even destroyed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. Preposterous NATO claims that it was only hitting military targets were accepted at face value. So why should journalists now trouble themselves over the deaths of a handful of Japanese fishing students? While the New York Times fulminated for months about the lascivious groping at Tailhook demanding court-martials all round and mass dismissals, the loss of life as a result of the US military failing to follow standard safety procedures elicits little more than a yawn. The facts in the Ehime Maru case are shocking enough: The 16 civilians who were aboard the USS Greeneville during the emergency surfacing maneuver were major contributors to the USS Missouri Restoration Fund a group dedicated to restoring the battleship on which Japan surrendered in 1945. The pointless emergency surfacing exercise was carried out not in the middle of the ocean but in a busy area of the Pacific 10 miles south of Honolulu. The USS Greeneville was two miles outside the Navy submarine training area, which is marked on navigation charts. The submarine was not operating the active sonar at the time of the collision. (National Transportation Safety Board officials say that for more than 10 years the Navy has rejected recommendations that submarines utilize active sonar when operating in coastal waters.) One civilian sat at the helm of the submarine and another pulled the levers during the sudden ascent. According to NTSB official John Hammerschmidt, the submarine had detected the Ehime Maru 71 minutes before smashing into it. One crew member now admits that the civilians were distracting him as the submarine was preparing to surface. The fire control technician, who plots the submarines position using sonar contacts in order to prepare to fire at targets, told investigators his duties were interrupted less than an hour before the collision. "He ceased this updating of the CEP (Contact Evaluation Plot) because of the number of civilians present," said Hammerschmidt. He also says that the submarines sonar room should have been staffed with two qualified sonar operators and a supervisor. Instead, there was only one trainee, an operator and a supervisor. In addition, the submarines sonar repeater was not working. (This device allows the submarines top officers to watch nearby sonar contacts on a monitor as they work at the periscope.) Hammerschmidt incidentally is also the man who came up with this prize quote: "The accident certainly is unusual. In terms of civilians being in those
[CTRL] The torture trade spreads while governments fail to act
-Caveat Lector- * News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty International * 26 February 2001 ACT 40/009/2001 30/01 Torturers are arming themselves with increasingly sophisticated equipment, and -- according to a new report released today by Amnesty International -- the trade in these devices is growing. The equipment includes high voltage electric shock stun weapons and chemical crowd control devices, while torturers continue to abuse old-style equipment such as restraint devices. Amnesty International's report, "Stopping The Torture Trade", reveals that the international trade in high voltage electro-shock batons, shields, stun guns, and stun belts has been expanding throughout the 1990s. This includes 'tasers', which can shoot 'fishhook' darts on wires into victims up to thirty feet away, and stun belts, which are strapped to prisoners and operated by remote control devices. The belts have been known to set off accidentally thrusting about 50,000 volts through the prisoners' kidneys for up to eight seconds. This technology began in the United States, and has spread to Asia, Europe and South Africa. "In the 1970s there were only two companies known to market high voltage electro-shock stun weapons, and now there are over 150 world-wide," said Brian Wood, one of the Amnesty International researchers who worked on the report. "In the absense of stringent controls to prevent this equipment ending up in the hands of torturers, responsible governments must ban its export immediately," he added. In the last two years, over 150 companies operating in 22 countries have been making or marketing electro-shock weapons. Now, Taiwanese, South Korean and Chinese companies probably manufacture more electro-shock stun weapons than companies in the USA. German, French and Israeli companies are also amongst the key manufacturers, and recently Polish, Russian, Czech, Mexican, Brazilian, and South African firms have joined in. The German government does not allow the weapons to be used in German prisons or by German police on German residents, but allows German companies to market and sell them for use abroad. The South African government is now actively promoting the sale of electro-shock belts in Asia, as well as using them on prisoners at home. In one case cited in the report, Mohammed Naguib Adu-Higazi was arrested in Alexandria, Egypt, in 1997 by a State Security Investigations officer. While held at the SSI office, he was stripped of his clothes and given electro-shocks from a "cylinder-shaped stick with a spiral metal wire." He was reportedly deprived of food for three days, kept blind-folded throughout his nine-day detention, and threatened with sexual assault. Between 1997 and March 2000, the United States approved the export to Egypt of shock batons, stun guns and optical sighting devices valued at more than $40,000. "Stopping the Torture Trade," one of a series of reports to be released in Amnesty International's year-long campaign to Stop Torture, also highlights the trade by more than 40 companies in more conventional security devices that can be used for serious abuse of human rights, such as mechanical restraints and chemical sprays. A British company, Pains-Wessex, made tear gas grenades used on peaceful demonstrators -- many of them women and children -- in Zambia in 1997. Despite this, the UK Government's most recent annual report on arms exports reveals that in 1999 the UK granted licences for the export of CS grenades and tear gas/irritant ammunition to Zambia. When UK tear gas was misused in Kenya and its supply was suspended, the Kenyan police were supplied from France. Some chemical weapons such as pepper gas sprays have been associated with many deaths in the USA and their international transfer must be suspended pending proper independent tests. A US company has supplied police with bursting pepper gas projectiles, used for the first time on protesters in Seattle in 1999. Military, security and police expertise taught internationally has also been used for torture, according to the new report. Hundreds of graduates of the US School of the Americas have been implicated in human rights violations in South America. This military school is one of over 150 centres in the USA and abroad where foreign officers are trained. Public information on the human rights content of the training is minimal. Amnesty International's report also cites French security training used in Togo for torture and intimidation of the civilian population. A high-ranking officer in the Togolese gendarmerie, accused by Togo's National Commission for Human Rights of ordering the torture of four people in August 1990, was subsequently awarded the decoration of the National Order of Merit by the French government. In another case, Israeli security officers paid and
[CTRL] The Bush Propaganda Machine Strikes Again in Florida
-Caveat Lector- The Bush Propaganda Machine Strikes Again in Florida http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=1604 by Bob Fertik On November 7, Al Gore defeated George W. Bush by over 540,000 votes nationally. In Florida, the results on election day were simply "too close to call." And that remains true 107 days later regardless of the widely-publicized report that a recount in Miami-Dade would not have given Gore enough votes to win Florida. George W. Bush occupies the White House as the result of a powerful effort to manipulate public opinion through the news media, led by chief strategist Karl Rove. This propaganda campaign continues to this day, and will not stop until it has convinced Americans that Bush "won" Florida regardless of the facts. Bush's propaganda campaign began at 8 p.m. on November 7, immediately after the TV networks projected Al Gore as the winner in Florida. Karl Rove's team went into action, and the networks quickly reversed themselves and put Florida in the "undecided" column. Bush himself made a few calls to his cousin John Ellis at FOX News, and within a few hours FOX and the other networks declared Bush the winner in Florida. Since Election Day, we have learned of numerous ways in which corrupt Republican election officials prevented Democratic votes from being cast or counted, including a fraudulent "felon purge" that removed thousands of qualified black voters from the rolls. We have also learned how error-prone machines and poorly-designed ballots cost Gore tens of thousands of votes among black and elderly voters. But the media's role in declaring Bush the winner - before all of the votes were counted - was just as important in stealing the Presidency. The main role of the TV networks was to deny Gore the opportunity for a fair and accurate recount. As soon as the networks declared Bush the winner in Florida, Gore was permanently on the defensive. First, the projections by the networks persuaded Gore to call Bush and privately offer his concession. Gore was just about to concede publicly when he discovered that the election was much closer than the networks were reporting. So Gore did what any candidate would do - he withdrew his concession and asked his opponent to wait until the vote count was completed and a true winner was declared. Karl Rove's propaganda machine switched its focus from the vote count to Al Gore. Suddenly, Gore was portrayed as a "sore loser" who refused to concede even though he had lost. Day after day, the media sided with the Bush campaign in attacking Gore for asking for the most basic principle of Democracy - that every vote should be counted. This propaganda campaign continues to this day. On February 26, the Miami Herald declared "Undervotes Support Bush Win." USA Today said "Recount Study: Gore Still Loses." Once again, the public could hear the unmistakable sound of the corporate media slamming the steel door shut on Gore's chances of finally proving that he won Florida. The essence of the Herald/USA Today story is that their recount of 10,644 undervotes produced a net gain of only 49 votes for Gore. So if the Gore campaign had succeeded in persuading Katherine Harris to wait for the completion of recounts of undervotes in four counties - Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and Volusia - Gore would not have gained enough votes to overcome Bush's 537-vote lead, according to the Herald and USA Today. But this is simply false. On January 27, the Palm Beach Post completed a recount of 4,513 uncounted votes in Palm Beach and reported a net gain of 682 votes for Gore. Combined with the 49 votes from Miami-Dade, Katherine Harris would have had to certify a Gore victory by 194 votes. But this argument is largely pointless, because Katherine Harris refused to wait for those recounts. As a result, the election ended up in the hands of the Florida Supreme Court. And after listening carefully to the argument from both sides, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that the only fair and accurate way to determine the winner was to recount the votes in EVERY county. The Florida Supreme Court did two things: first, they ordered Harris to include the partial recounts in Miami-Dade and Palm Beach, which added 383 votes to Gore's total and reduced Bush's lead to 154. Then they ordered all of Florida's counties to start counting. And as the nation watched, election workers in all of Florida's counties began reviewing every uncounted vote. This was the moment when the U.S. Supreme Court threw a thunderbolt from the sky. Violating every principle of Anglo-American law, a narrow partisan Republican majority declared that a fair and accurate recount would cause "irreparable harm" to George W. Bush. They overruled the Florida Supreme Court and ordered a halt to Florida's recount. As the nation watched in shock, election workers throughout Florida stopped counting and went home. This injunction by the U.S. Supreme Court has been universally denounced. A group of law
[CTRL] DRUDGE: CLINTON CAUGHT ON TAPE...
-Caveat Lector- CLINTON CAUGHT ON TAPE: MCAULIFFE'S PRIVATE VIDEOS MAY HOLD PARDON INSIGHTS; HANDY-CAM CAPTURED LAST DAYS **World Exclusive** Ready, set... action! Home videotapes made by DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe of Bill Clinton's final days and hours as president may become new evidence in red-hot congressional investigations, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. Clinton's best friend captured intimate unscripted moments of the president, according to insiders, and congressional investigators now suspect McAuliffe's tapes may contain insights into the controversial last day presidential pardons! "McAuliffe had unlimited access during the time pardons were being issued," a top congressional source said late Sunday. "We have reason to believe that Mr. McAuliffe had a camera rolling." Photographs have emerged [http://a740.g.akamai.net/f/740/606/1d/image.pathfinder.com/time/photoessay s/clintonlastdays/images/sat6.jpg] showing McAullife videotaping Clinton on his last day in office. MacAullife could not be reached for comment on Sunday. "This will become a big issue if any of McAuliffe's tapes are destroyed after there are photos showing filming going on," warns one insider. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PON: NORMAN: FAILED DYNAMIC ENERGY STILL A FOCUS OF US CONGRESSIONAL FUND-RAISING PROBE
-Caveat Lector- "Bill Clinton's brother-in-law Hugh Rodham ...spoke to lawyers in the counsel's office about Nora Lum and her husband, Eugene Kung Ho Lum, who had also been convicted of tax fraud." FAILED DYNAMIC ENERGY STILL A FOCUS OF US CONGRESSIONAL FUND-RAISING PROBE Platts Oilgram News May 1, 1998; BYLINE: James Norman Alleged political money-laundering through the oil and gas business is a potentially explosive land mine buried in the morass of investigations swamping the Clinton Administration. Republican Congressional probers now seem determined to pursue allegations of bribery, hush-money payments and foreign influence-buying through a tiny, failed Oklahoma gas-gathering company caught in the scandals: Dynamic Energy Resources. That resolve showed up Apr 28 when GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich accused the Clinton Administration of a concerted cover-up and vowed to obtain immunity for four key witnesses to testify before Rep. Dan Burton's House Government Reform and Oversight Committee. Democrats on that committee, led by Henry Waxman, blocked the needed two-thirds immunity vote last week. But Gingrich said he may get it from a more heavily Republican panel. Among the four witnesses is Larry Wong, who Gingrich said Apr 28 could have "relevant information regarding conduit contributions" from Dynamic, controlled by Democrat fundraisers Gene and Nora Lum. Wong was a director of Dynamic and close friend of the Lums. Wong is said to be intimately familiar with activities of the Lums, who pleaded guilty last May to funneling about $50,000 through "straw donors" to the 1994 Senate campaign of Edward Kennedy and unsuccessful House campaign of their ex-partner in Dynamic, Stuart Price. The Lums were sentenced in September to 10 months of community confinement and home detention, with $30,000 fines, and are supposedly cooperating with an ongoing Justice Dept probe. But their plea agreement lets Justice use their information to pursue new charges against them, raising doubts about their cooperation. They have demanded immunity to testify before Congress. Dynamic has been a focus of Burton's investigation over its Nov 9, 1993, purchase of private Tulsa-based Gage Corp and its Creek Systems gas gathering system. That was one day before a public trial was to start on Gage's claim it had suffered from unfair rulings by the Oklahoma Corporation Commission. The claim was quickly dropped. Gage's state claim, and a $40-mil federal civil suit, had been bolstered by the October 1992 revelation that OCC commissioners had collected bribes from lobbyist Bill Anderson. Anderson, former OCC general counsel, had represented such big-name utility clients as Gage's chief nemesis, Oklahoma Natural Gas, the main operating arm of Oneok Inc and the state's biggest gas distributor. Anderson had also represented Southwestern Bell and Arkla Gas, a unit of Arkla Inc, which from 1985 until 1992 was headed as CEO by Thomas (Mac) McLarty. Arkla's successor, NorAm Energy, was bought last fall by Houston Industries. McLarty, now in his early 50's, is a kindergarten friend of President Clinton and became Clinton's chief of staff in 1992. He remains a special counsel and special envoy to the Americas pending his resignation June 30, announced Apr 24, to return to a family business. The Gage trial threatened to reveal possible links between Anderson and McLarty and their alleged meeting one day before a 1991 wiretapped conversation in which Anderson and a law partner conspired to thwart an FBI investigation. Anderson was indicted for obstruction of justice in 1993 and convicted in 1995 along with former OCC commissioner Robert Hopkins on bribery charges, based partly on conversations taped by fellow commissioner Robert Anthony, who agreed to be wired in a four-year FBI sting operation. There is no indication McLarty's departure from government now is linked to the Dynamic probe. Indeed, the Dynamic matter is probably one of the least of the simmering scandals surrounding McLarty's 18-month stint as Clinton's chief of staff in 1993 and 1994. A Jan 20, 1997, story by Business Week, like Platt's part of The McGraw-Hill Cos, noted McLarty's appointment as Special Envoy came after Senate Democrats warned the White House McLarty could not be confirmed for the higher posts he sought, Commerce Secretary or Ambassador to Mexico. McLarty's lawyer at that time denied his Arkla activities were any hindrance to Senate confirmation. In a Sep 5, 1997, deposition to Burton's investigators, McLarty repeatedly denied knowing or meeting Gene or Nora Lum, though they were listed as attending a fund-raising breakfast McLarty attended in Seattle Nov 15, 1993. The breakfast was sponsored by APAC, the Asian Pacific Advisory Council set up in California and run by the Lums to organize fund-raising events mainly for the Democratic National Committee. Among those McLarty did recall meeting at the breakfast was controversial Democratic money-raiser
[CTRL] FAVISH: Schippers on the Vince Foster Case (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:00:45 -0800 From: Allan Favish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Schippers on the Vince Foster Case Tonight I spoke with David Schippers on a radio talk show and asked him to elaborate more on his comment of a few weeks ago that perhaps some Secret Service agents will be coming forward with new information on the Foster case. Schippers said tonight that a source that he trusts told him that the Secret Service may have information about some notes that Foster wrote that have not been made public. That's all I was able to get. Schippers was also under the impression that part of the problem with the Foster case was that the FBI was kept out of it to a large extent and too much of the investigation was done by the Park Police. I told him that the FBI was involved, but did not have time to engage in the type of long discussion necessary to correct his apparent misunderstanding. _ Regards, Allan J. Favish http://members.aol.com/allanf8702/page1.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Carl Amedio wrote: Pictures are doctored. We went to moon. we found alien artifacts NASA covered it up. Carl, I think there is a case for us finding A LOT MORE than just ET artifacts. It's possible that we may have been thrown off, and warned not to ever come back. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [radtimes] # 167
-Caveat Lector- [radtimes] # 167 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --Biotech Firms Examine Legal/Ethical Implications --Prepare for bioterrorism attack, military doctor warns --Next stop for anti-globalization march: Hawaii --The Golden Age Of Surveillance --U.N. report makes dire predictions on climate change --Revolutionary Anarchism and the Anti-Globalization Movement === Biotech Firms Examine Legal/Ethical Implications http://atlanta.bcentral.com/atlanta/stories/2001/02/19/focus10.html Atlanta Business Chronicle by Nancy Groves 16 February 2001 The process of deciphering the human genome is leading to legal and regulatory changes as well as ethical dilemmas, and there's plenty of activity in this unique intersection of science, law, and business, according to local attorneys in the biotechnology sector. "It's a huge can of worms," said David Perryman, an attorney with Needle Rosenberg. "There's a ton of stuff going on." The biotech industry is studying the potential impact of changes enacted earlier this year by state and federal agencies, said David Huizenga with Needle Rosenberg. Issues that may affect biotech companies include several related to discoveries in genetics, such as the patentability of genetic information, the conduct of clinical trials involving gene therapy, the approval process for new drugs developed from genes, proteins and other biological components and cloning. Other issues include tissue engineering, fetal tissue research, confidentiality of patient health information, bioengineered food, conflict of interest disclosure requirements for researchers and the transferability of tax credits for research and development. Changes in the way the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office reviews patent applications could translate into good news for biotech companies and investors. Early this year, the patent office issued finalized guidelines that are more specific on the way in which the "utility," or value, of the application is evaluated, said Bill Warren, a biotech patent attorney with Sutherland Asbill Brennan LLP. "It provides more certainty for companies to know what is patentable and what is not," Warren said. A company seeking, for example, to patent a fragment of genetic material would have to provide more proof of the utility of that fragment, such as its potential role in the treatment of a particular disease. The fragment could not be patented simply because scientists had been able to isolate it and believed it could be useful in some as-yet-undetermined way, Warren said. This change will affect university research centers and scientific organizations and could encourage the spinoff of companies designed to bring products resulting from genetic discoveries to market, Warren said. Because a patent will signify that the discovery has proven utility, investors are more likely to take a chance on funding companies that have secured patent office approval. The patent office also has new guidelines on the publication of patent application claims. Damages for infringement can now be collected dating from the time of publication of the claims, rather than from the date the patent itself was issued, Perryman said. At the federal and state levels, changes in the current method of issuing research and development tax credits have been discussed, said Phil Moise of Sutherland Asbill Brennan. Federal legislation authorizing tax credits has been in existence for several decades, but only as a measure that must be periodically renewed, Moise said. An effort has begun to make the RD tax credit a part of the permanent tax code. The state of Georgia also rewards organizations for investing in RD, and there may be legislative action to allow the transfer of tax credits, Moise said. The goal would be to allow organizations that don't generate enough profits to benefit from their credits to transfer them to companies that could use them, he said. Flood of applications The Food and Drug Administration regulates biotechnology developments such as those stemming from the Human Genome Project. This massive scientific effort could give rise to an unprecedented number of "blockbuster drugs" aimed at specific diseases, said William Kitchens, managing partner with Arnall Golden Gregory LLP and head of the firm's food and drug law division. The FDA will need to be prepared for the balancing act of ensuring the safety and effectiveness of the volume of new drugs submitted to it for approval while getting them into the market without undue delays, Kitchens said. Fast-track approval processes are already
[CTRL] NM: Roger Clinton Refused to Deny Vignali Payoff
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Sunday, Feb. 25, 2001 11:54 p.m. EST Roger Clinton Refused to Deny Vignali Payoff In his only interview since he came under suspicion in the Pardongate scandal, former first half-brother Roger Clinton denied that he accepted money for trying to arrange pardons for his friends - but pointedly refused to discuss his role in any of the 36 commutation requests granted by his brother Bill Clinton. The omission takes on new significance with a Time magazine report, due to hit newsstands Monday, which cites sources who say Roger was paid off for helping to commute a jail sentence for California drug dealer Carlos Vignali, who was convicted in 1994 of conspiring to sell 800 pounds of cocaine. On Friday, Roger Clinton told the Los Angeles Times that he intervened with his brother on pardons for six of his friends but explicitly denied taking money for the effort: "I didn't get any money for any kind of pardons," Roger said. "Not only did I not get any money, but none of them got pardons." But, noted the Times, "He declined to identify his friends, or to say whether he had been involved with any clemencies that were granted." Forty-eight hours later, Time magazine reports: "Two sources tell TIME that Horacio Vignali told associates he paid Roger $30,000 to work on the commutation of his son's sentence. A spokesman for Roger Clinton said he claims never to have accepted money from Vignali; an attorney for Vignali had no comment." Could Roger Clinton's spokesman be misinformed, just as Denise Rich's was when he intially denied that she had asked the president to pardon her husband? Roger "The Dodger" Clinton avoided the subject of commutations with the L.A. Times for some reason. Perhaps that reason is spelled Vignali. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
In a message dated 2/26/01 6:50:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carl, I think there is a case for us finding A LOT MORE than just ET artifacts. It's possible that we may have been thrown off, and warned not to ever come back. I won't dispute that. Aliens popped Apollo 13 and later killed the Mars probes.any one remember the Russian picture of the Martian mood showed it to be cylindrical. That probe was destroyed as well. Carl
[CTRL] JW: JUDICIAL WATCH AND BOB BARR JOIN TO BLOCK 44 PARDONS
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 2/26/2001 Press Office 202-646-5172 JUDICIAL WATCH AND BOB BARR JOIN TO BLOCK 44 PARDONS Case Law Establishes That Pardons of Braswell, Roger Clinton, Henry Cisneros, Susan McDougal and Others Are Void and Invalid (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, Inc., the public interest watchdog that investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, has joined with Congressman Bob Barr to pursue justice in the Pardongate scandal. With Judicial Watch's assistance, on February 20, 2001, Congressman Barr wrote this letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft: The Honorable John Ashcroft Attorney General United States Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20530 In Re: Review of Former President Clinton's January 20, 2001 Clemency Grants Dear Mr. Attorney General: Thank you very much for taking my call today, and agreeing to look into this matter. As I indicated, on February 9, 2001, I wrote to you about former President Clinton's attempt to grant pardons for the 44 persons set forth in the attached letter dated February 6, 2001 from the Department of Justice Office of Legislative Affairs to the House of Representatives Government Reform Committee Chairman Dan Burton (Exhibit 1). As I pointed out: Contrary to long-established and consistent precedent, former President Clinton did not issue separate clemency grants for each individual. Instead he signed a single document entitled, 'Executive Grant of Clemency,' listing 138 persons by name, under the following statement: AFTER CONSIDERING THE REQUESTS for executive clemency of the following named persons, I hereby grant full and unconditional pardons to the following named persons for those offenses against the United States described in each such request: As a result, and as further explained in my February 9, 2001 letter, these 44 persons "could not" - and did not - receive pardons." While the Department has not responded to my letter of February 9, 2001, on February 14, 2001 Chairman Dan Burton was advised by Acting Assistant Attorney General Sheryl L. Walter that the Department of Justice was proceeding to prepare and issue warrants to effect the attempted pardons (Exhibit 2). Incredibly, in her letter, Ms. Walter admits that the Department of Justice is unable to determine the nature and scope of the pardon for each individual based upon President Clinton's failure to describe the acts subject to pardon. Instead, much like Florida canvassing boards during the 2000 Presidential election, the Department has set out to "divine" Mr. Clinton's intent. This is patently - and constitutionally - improper. Well-established case law demonstrates that presidential pardons are - and can only be - effective to the crimes specified in the President's pardon, here his "Executive Grant of clemency." See, e.g., Ex Parte Weimer, 29 F.Cas. 597, 598 (C.C.E.D. Wisc. 1878) (No. 17,362); Stetler's Case, 22 F.Cas. 1314, 1315-16 (C.C.E.D. Pa. 1852) (13,380) (Exhibit 3). Further, the law is clear that a pardon does not take effect until the warrant is issued, delivered and accepted. U.S. v. Wilson, 32 U.S. 150 (1833); In re DePuy, 7 F.Cas. 506 (D.C.S.D.N.Y. 1869) (3,814) (Exhibit 4). In this case, a warrant cannot be issued and delivered without knowing what was the express basis of the pardon. Finally, until the pardon is delivered, the President may cancel it. This applies even to a pardon issued by a President's predecessor in office. See, Id. For all of these reasons, I urge you to reject the attempted pardons by President Clinton for the 44 enumerated individuals, particularly under the circumstances, where pardons were issued for political purposes and possibly in exchange for campaign contributions and other forms of remuneration (Exhibit 5). Also, insofar as it would be impossible to "divine" President Clinton's intent from the pardon document he issued, your staff would in effect be unconstitutionally exercising the pardon power by substituting the judgment of an inferior government official for that of the only person constitutionally empowered to grant a pardon - the President himself. If the President does not properly exercise a power only he possesses, another official cannot step in and correct his mistakes. For the above reasons, and with all due respect, if you allow these pardons to proceed and warrants to issue and be delivered, a great injustice will have been done, and an unfortunate precedent will have been set. If the Office of the Attorney General does not act to prevent this, further steps may be initiated to prevent this result. Thank you for your interest, and an early response to my inquiries, before the Department of Justice issues and serves the warrants for the attempted pardons at issue. With warm regards, I remain, very truly yours, BOB BARR Member of Congress Judicial Watch trusts that Attorney General John
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly have been the first Apostle. There's another explanation. The pagans who lived in the area practiced ritual prostitution as part of their religion. The money went to temple maintance and to charity. She could have been a practitioner, or even a priestess. Extremely unlikely. Jesus was a practicing Jew. He would not even have had access to such a person. There were no Pagan temples in Jewish Jerusalem. One of the reasons for the first Jewish revolt was because the Romans displayed their shields and eagles in Jerusalem's holy areas where graven images were particularly offensive. There is really no way to know who MM was. The OT is notoriously unreliable with names and characters. Much of this was intentional. The compilers of the OT ( 300 years after the death of Jesus ) did not want Christians to know that Jesus had many siblings. They obfuscated names and used several names for the same people, as well as giving the same people different roles in the mythology. Mary could have been his sister. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- killed the Mars probes. If I lived on Mars, and I heard that the Earthlings were coming (especially Russians or Americans), I'd shoot 'em down as soon as they came into range. Otherwise they'd kill me, rape my wife, and steal everything I owned. Then my grand children would find themselves living on reservations and selling trinkets to tourists for a living. It's traditional. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- He would not even have had access to such a person. There were no Pagan temples in Jewish Jerusalem. Jesus grew up in the boondocks, not the capital. Pagans were common, even after nearly a millennium of Jewish repression. All the Jews did was drive out the temples. The pagans remained. Many Jews themselves were pagans or still practiced elements of pagan religion (as do we today). They also married pagans. Mary could have been his sister. Indeed. She could also have been his wife. Some people say that the miracle of the wine and the water was at Jesus own wedding feast. Jewish culture as well as Jewish religion so strongly supported marriage that it is inconceivable that a man could reach thirty, still be unmarried, and not be utterly rejected by the other people of the culture. He certainly couldnt have gained a following. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NW: Ashcroft may investigate Pardongate
-Caveat Lector- Newsweek Ashcroft Eventually Might Have No Choice But to Name Special Counsel In Clinton Pardon Investigation, Source Tells Newsweek. FBI Director Freeh Took Personal Interest in Roger Clinton Case, But Was Rebuffed by Justice Department Officials NEW YORK, Feb. 25 /PRNewswire/ -- While Attorney General John Ashcroft isn't yet eager to name a special counsel in the investigation of former President Bill Clinton's pardons, a legal source close to the White House tells Newsweek that eventually he may have no choice. This is now a sprawling legal matter that may require investigation in several states, report Chief Political Correspondent Howard Fineman and Investigative Correspondents Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff in the March 5 issue (on newsstands Monday, February 26). [Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20010224/NEWSWEEK] In another development in the investigation, Newsweek has learned that FBI Director Louis Freeh took a personal interest in a case involving Clinton's half-brother Roger, whom FBI agents heard talking about how he could arrange clemency for a felon in jail for SL fraud. Freeh was rebuffed by Justice Department higher-ups. The FBI is said to remain interested, Newsweek reports. ``Somebody needs to take a look at this.'' Newsweek also reports that Hillary Clinton's brother Hugh Rodham and a third sibling, younger brother Tony Rodham, tried to set up a hazelnut-export business in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia -- until the State Department told them to stop. The brothers traveled to Taiwan and South Korea prospecting for business. During one visit, according to local press reports, they brought a gift and personal letter from Hillary to the Korean First Lady, Lee Hee-ho. [A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton says she does not recall the episode.] = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UPI: Clinton lawyer receives contempt threat
-Caveat Lector- Monday, 26 February 2001 13:53 (ET) Clinton lawyer receives contempt threat By P. MITCHELL PROTHERO WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 (UPI) -- Congressional investigators told former President Clinton's personal attorney Monday to allow access to donor records for Clinton's presidential library or face contempt of Congress charges, United Press International has learned. Attorney David Kendall has been sent a letter from House Government Affairs Committee investigators that threatens to hold him in contempt unless he allows committee investigators to examine the records that detail large donations to the library effort. Last week, Kendall refused a similar request to turn over records of donations exceeding $5,000, citing Constitutional protection of free association. Clinton library Chairman Skip Rutherford has been asked by committee Chairman Dan Burton, R-Ind., to testify on Thursday about donations made to the library that might have influenced Clinton's decision to pardon fugitive financier Marc Rich on his last day in office. Burton used to letter to explain the rationale for demanding the lists of donors, saying that besides donors that might have tried to help Rich, or his partner Pincus Green, the committee wants to check to see if any other pardon recipients might have made donations to the fund. Unless Kendall allows committee staff to examine the list of donors who gave at least $5,000, Burton threatened to have a vote charging him and the library organization in contempt of Congress. He also said that would question Rutherford on Thursday and would subpoena the library's records of its accounts with Regions Bank and Bank of America unless the donor list is released. Committee investigators were waiting for rulings from the State Department on whether Rich was a U.S. citizen and from intelligence agencies on whether they can declassify and release any files they have on Rich. Earlier it had been reported in The Washington Post that Clinton's brother-in-law, Hugh Rodham, contacted White House attorneys in an effort to gain pardons for a couple convicted of making illegal campaign contributions to Democrats. Rodham, a Florida attorney, acknowledged last week that he received about $400,000 to help with two successful clemency applications. He said he returned the money. The Post, in a report in its Monday editions, said Rodham spoke to lawyers in the counsel's office about Nora Lum and her husband, Eugene Kung Ho Lum, who had also been convicted of tax fraud. The report quoted a source close to the counsel's office. However, the Lums, prominent Democratic fund-raisers at one time, did not receive a pardon or commutation of their sentences. Other sources familiar with the case and requesting anonymity said that legal materials supporting the Lums' request were sent to Rodham personally at the White House. Rodham's work on the Lums' pardon application shows that he was more involved in the clemency process than previously known and that he took advantage of his frequent and easy access to the White House, the newspaper said. Rodham's attorney, Nancy Luque, denied that her client was representing the Lums, The Post said. "He did not represent them in any way, shape or form in connection with any pardon request," she said. "He did not advocate on their behalf." Rodham was paid $400,000 in "success fees" by convicted drug smuggler Carlos Vignali and A. Glenn Braswell, who was convicted of perjury and mail fraud. The Clintons both said last week they had been unaware of the financial arrangement and demanded that Rodham return the money. -- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL
[CTRL] America Cluster Bombs Iraq
America Cluster Bombs Iraq By William M. Arkin Special to Washingtonpost.com Monday, February 26, 2001; 12:00 AM News media reports last week that 50 percent of the weapons fired at Iraqi military installations missed their so-called aimpoints obscures a more disturbing facet of the Feb. 16 attack: The U.S. jets used cluster bombs that have no real aimpoint and that kill and wound innocent civilians for years to come. This is not merely some insider detail. The choice of cluster bombs, still unnoticed by the American media, is likely to prove controversial. The weapon that was used in Iraq is formally known as Joint Stand-off Weapon (JSOW,pronounced jay-sow). It was first used in combat in Iraq on January 25, 1999, when Marine Corps F-18 Hornet's fired three weapons at an air defense site. The missile is described by the Navy, its primary developer, and Raytheon Systems, its manufacturer, as a long-range glide bomb. Acting Pentagon spokesman, Navy Rear Admiral Crag Quigley primly calls it an "area munition," doggedly avoiding the scattershot reality conveyed by the term “cluster bomb.” Weapon of Choice Twenty eight JSOWs were fired by Navy aircraft in the in the Feb. 16 attack, along with guided missiles and laser-guided bombs. Pentagon sources say that 26 of the 28 JSOWs missed their aimpoints. The 1,000 pound, 14-foot-long weapon carries 145 anti-armor and anti-personnel incendiary bomblets which disperse over an area that is approximately 100 feet long and 200 feet wide. In short, this weapon, which Quigley describes as a "long-range, precision-guided, stand-off weapon," rains down deadly bomblets on an area the size of a football field with six bombs falling in every 1,000 square feet. So much for precision. The JSOW has quickly become a top weapon of choice for Navy and Marine Corps airplanes in the no fly zone mission for at least four reasons. It has as a range of more than 40 nautical miles when delivered from high altitude (20,000 feet about ground level). The dispersal of bomblets inflicts more lasting damage than a small warhead on an anti-radiation missile. Pilots can reprogram target coordinates right up to the moment of launch. And because the JSOW is guided by satellite, the delivering aircraft can "launch and leave.” "With JSOW we can attack SAMs [surface-to-air missiles] from well outside the threat rings and destroy rather than suppress" the target, a Navy document notes. In other words, years of bombing in Iraq have had less than spectacular results of Iraq’s air defenses and the U.S. military is looking for some way of causing more permanent damage to the country's military capabilities. Launch and Leave Pilots may launch and leave, but the JSOW, like other cluster bombs, is unforgiving once aircraft deliver them. The JSOW releases its sub-munitions about 400 feet above its target. These bomblets are also used in the most prevalent modern U.S. cluster bomb, the CBU-87. But unlike the CBU-87, the JSOW does not spin to disperse its bomblets. Rather the JSOW uses a gasbag to propel the sub-munitions outward from the sides. Once ejected, the bomblets, each the size of soda can, simply fall freely at the mercy of local winds. A few almost always land outside of the center point of the football field size main concentration. On average 5 percent do not detonate. These unexploded bomblets then become highly volatile on the ground. Recently, U.S. Air Force engineers in Kuwait found an entire unexploded CBU-87 at an airbase that had been attacked during the Gulf War. The weapon had apparently malfunctioned and ripped open upon impact, burying bomblets up to six feet deep in the vicinity. To destroy them in place, a series of 10-foot high barriers had to be built inside a 700-foot wide safety cordon. Already this month, there has been one Iraqi civilian death and nine injuries from unexploded cluster bomblets, presumably all left over from the 1991 Gulf War. On Feb. 20, Agence France Press (AFP) reported that a shepherd was wounded near Nasiriyah in southern Iraq when an unexploded bomblet detonated. On Feb. 15, Reuters said two Iraqi boys in western Iraq, also tending sheep, were injured by a cluster bomblet. On Feb. 9, AFP reported a child was killed and six others were wounded by sub-munitions near Basra. February, it seems, is a fairly typical month for cluster bombs inflicting damage on innocent civilians. A Degrading Policy "What we have to do is make sure we continue to tell the world that we are not after the Iraqi people," Secretary of State Colin Powell told CNN on Feb. 12. That is a tough task given the use of a weapon which has unique civilian impact. Saddam Hussein relishes the cat and mouse game in and around the "no-fly" zones, almost welcoming bombing and civilian casualties if they will contribute to Baghdad's strategy of breaking the international consensus on sanctions and inspections. The use of
[CTRL] Ashcroft opponents targeted on taxes!
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=10793 Ashcroft opponents targeted on taxes Bill Berkowitz - WORKINGFORCHANGE 02.20.01 - Mark R. Levin, head of the Landmark Legal Foundation, is mad as hell and he's not shy about it. Who is this middle aged balding guy with an attitude angry at? Just about anyone to the left of Attila the Hun. Now, he's going after some of the 200 or so organizations that lined-up to deny Sen. John Ashcrof this "righteous" spot heading up the Justice Department. Some Democrats claim that the 58-42 Senate vote that confirmed Sen. Ashcroft was meant to be read as a warning to President Bush. Something like, "If you come around here with an ultraconservative judicial appointment, you're gonna be in trouble." Seriously though, how much more of an ultra can Bush find - perhaps a member of the Council of Conservative Citizens? It's obvious to many observers that if the Dems couldn't summon the backbone to defeat, or at least filibuster, the Ashcroft nomination, what kind of response can be expected of them regarding Bush's tax proposal and cuts in domestic programs, not to mention future nominations. During the first week in February, it became apparent that Mark Levin's Landmark Legal Foundation wasn't going to just settle for winning the Ashcroft battle. They had bigger fish to fry. First, Landmark announced the formation of its "501-C Project" which intends to "ensure that liberal nonprofit organizations that lobby against presidential appointments comply with U.S. tax and lobbying laws." The Unification Church-owned Washington Times reported that Landmark has asked the Internal Revenue Service "to investigate accusations that several civil rights groups and other nonprofit organizations violated their federal tax-exempt status by participating in lobbying efforts against the nomination of John Ashcroft as attorney general." According to Levin: "Published reports reveal that scores of liberal, 501(c)tax-exempt groups spent the last month, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, in a well-coordinated and highly organized lobbying campaign against the Ashcroft nomination. They have also announced that they will lobby against future nominees who they consider too conservative. The IRS must look at these activities very carefully to ensure that these organizations are not skirting the law or failing to pay their taxes." Levin pointed to a January 9 meeting of organizations opposed to Ashcroft's nomination, held at the headquarters of the American Association of University Women. Called by the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, among the groups Levin identified as in attendance were the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, the National Organization for Women's Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Education Association and the National Black Women's Health Project. This was just one of several complaints with federal agencies that Landmark has filed in the past few months. They also filed a complaint with the IRS and the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against one of the right's perennial targets, the National Education Association. Over the years, Landmark has butted heads with the NEA especially around the issue of school vouchers in Wisconsin, where Landmark provided legal support for pro-voucher organizations. Levin says the teachers union is using millions of dollars in unreported tax-exempt funds to influence the outcome of political races. According to Landmark's website (http://www.landmarklegal.org), the complaint, part of the its Quality Schools 2001 initiative, claims that "the last several NEA Form 990 federal tax returns, submitted to the IRS under penalty of perjury, disclose no political expenditures whatsoever. The NEA and several of its affiliates have also failed to disclose the full extent of their political activities to the Federal Election Commission (FEC)." Landmark is asking these government agencies to "initiate comprehensive investigations of the NEA's political activities and expenditures to determine whether it has violated federal tax and campaign laws. Landmark is also asking the IRS to consider whether the NEA's tax-exempt status should be revoked, and whether the IRS and the FEC should impose fines and penalties on the NEA." Landmark was founded in 1976, as the Great Plains Legal Foundation with an office in Kansas City, Mo. (it also has an office in Herndon, Va.) Its mission is to provide litigation and legal aid to conservatives and conservative causes. In 1995, taking advantage of the Republican takeover of the House, Landmark stitched together a plan called "Beyond the First 100 Days: A Legal Reform Plan for the 104th Congress," which put forward strict conservative ideas in several areas including antitrust, civil justice, criminal justice, and private property rights. For the past eight years, beginning with the so-called Travelgate scandal, Mark R. Levin
[CTRL] WP: Grabbing the Headlines: The National Enquirer
-Caveat Lector- Grabbing the Headlines: The National Enquirer By Howard Kurtz Staff Writer Washington Post Monday, February 26, 2001; Page C01 The hottest publication in America right now is the National Enquirer -- and no one in the establishment press is snickering. One month after scooping the world with the tale of Jesse Jackson's out-of-wedlock child, the supermarket tabloid did it again last week, discovering that Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother had been paid big bucks for helping secure a presidential pardon for a businessman convicted of mail fraud and perjury. "We have been slowly swinging toward politics in the last three years -- since Monica, really," says Enquirer Editor Steve Coz. "What's the difference between Hollywood and Washington? Politicians are so much better known now, which is good for magazine sales. Tom and Nicole getting divorced might be a very good story to read, but when you uncover a Bill Clinton pardon scandal, that does have an impact on people's lives." A Los Angeles Times reporter had been banging on Hugh Rodham's door in Florida, and Associated Press writer John Solomon independently broke the story Wednesday, including a statement from the Clintons that smelled of damage control. But it was the Enquirer that had a copy of a $200,000 wire transfer from felon Almon Braswell's Canadian bank to Rodham's firm. Coz admits he's "miffed" that the story popped before the Enquirer, not yet at the newsstands, could leak the revelations to its favorite outlet, the New York Post. Coz acknowledges that the Enquirer used its checkbook in the Rodham inquiry, though he says "this story was more dependent on investigative reporting than anything else." Similarly, some payments were made on the Jackson story, but not to the reverend's mistress. More telling, perhaps, is the paper's firepower -- a dozen Enquirer reporters were chasing 10 of Clinton's most questionable pardons. As in the Jackson story, the Enquirer's "CLINTON PARDON PAYOFF EXPOSED" was so solid that the principals had little choice but to quickly confirm the details, with Rodham returning his $400,000 fee under pressure from the former first family. While not abandoning the celebrity world -- last week's cover was "Arnold Maria Divorce Blowup" -- Coz says he's been beefing up his East Coast staff, in part by hiring Richard Gooding, who broke the 1996 story about Dick Morris's call girl for the rival Star. (The Enquirer, Star and Globe are now owned by a firm headed by former Treasury undersecretary Roger Altman.) Enquirer circulation is a healthy 2.1 million -- down from a 1977 high of 5 million -- and the Harvard-educated Coz has toned down its sleaze content. Clearly, the tab has come a long way since the New York Times kicked up a fussby deigning to quote from one of its O.J. Simpson stories. "They are, if you think about it, the newspaper of record of the Clinton years," Newsweek's Howard Fineman declared on the Imus show. Coz says the Enquirer's interest in national affairs (so to speak) is driven by one man: "Clinton is the Tom Cruise of politics, a larger-than-life character." So what happens when Clinton fades and the paper is left with the Bush administration? "That is a huge question," says Coz. Of course, there's always Tom and Nicole. snip balance = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China speeds up weapons development -- Thank You Bill Clinton
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! China speeds up weapons development Top military commission seeks readiness for 'war of annihilation' -- -- By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com China's Central Military Commission has decided to speed up the research and development of new weapons and quicken the pace of modernizing the People's Liberation Army, while warning its military force to "be vigilant in peacetime" while preparing for future war scenarios. The Hong Kong-based Tai Yang Pao newspaper said the decision was made among the CMC's leadership during its second meeting this year Feb. 2-3 in Beijing. Specifically, the committee chose three main tasks for the armed forces in the coming months and years: Speed up modernization programs currently underway while safeguarding national sovereign and "territorial integrity" -- a statement clearly aimed at Taiwan, analysts said; "Deepen" reforms within the PLA while focusing modernization efforts on "fighting a successful high-tech war;" Step up arms modernization programs by quickening research, development and production of "the new generation of deterrent weapons." The paper quoted sources who said President Jiang Zemin, who is also chief of the CMC, noted that while the "current international situation" on whole is easing, "the factors for war still exist" -- a condition that should determine the level of Chinese "national defense" construction. Zemin, the paper said, pointed out that the level of construction "must meet the needs of the [international] situation." Meanwhile, the CMC's vice chairman, Zhang Wannian -- in Russia this week to sign a new series of defense, military technology and mutual economic agreements -- provided details of the mainland's current combat readiness in regard to building PLA forces, developing new armaments and the research and development of high technology weapons. The paper said Zhang emphasized that all modernization efforts "must suit the situation of fighting a successful modern war," which includes "partial, short and high-tech destructive war; all-around medium and long term war[s] of attrition; and a war of annihilation fought with non-conventional weapons." He said China should cooperate with "friendly nations" and pool manpower and resources to concentrate on a number of projects based on "new breakthroughs, deterrent strength and world-leading status," the paper said. Also, Zhang said that laser and neutron weapons, among others, would be the deterrent weapons in a future conflict. The paper said he recommended that "armaments should be simultaneously researched and developed, tested in actual combat, enhanced and improved, [then] put into production and used to equip" the PLA. The CMC said its armed forces -- the PLA, the People's Liberation Army Air Force and the People's Liberation Army Navy -- should be "vigilant in peacetime," but clearly "perceive that future wars may include ⦠a war to oppose national separatism and rebellion, a war to opposed armed aggression and intervention in other countries by hegemonist military blocs or a military conflict (war) to oppose a sudden strike by hegemonist military blocs." In earlier reports, China has used the term "hegemonist" as a pejorative against expected U.S. and NATO intervention in case Beijing would launch an assault against Taiwan. The terms "national separatism and rebellion" refer directly to Taiwan's democratic government. Also, the paper quoted Chinese sources as saying that because of the new directives, an "upsurge" of "actual combat exercises" would likely be undertaken by PLA forces this year, and that a "number of new technology deterrent weapons will make their appearance in the northwest, southwest, and Yellow Sea theaters." *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
[CTRL] Billy Clinton - All Mobbed Up
-Caveat Lector- From Undernews 2/26/01 http://prorev.com BILLY, ROGER, THE MOB, AND THE FEDS THE PARDON SCANDAL has brought to some media and political circles the first glimmer of comprehension of the deep and corrosive connections between WJ Clinton and the criminal underworld. These connections have been apparent from the start to those who bothered to look behind the patina of the Clinton myth. Clinton was raised by mob-connected relatives and backed in his campaigns by members of the Dixie Mafia - including major drug traffickers. He used their cocaine, appointed them, covered for them, looked the other way for them, partied with them, cut deals with them, and now has pardoned some of them. The Marc Rich pardon opens one window on this little covered, sordid side of the Clinton saga, as does the commutation of Carlos Vignali's sentence. Vignali was sent to jail in 1994 for conspiring to sell 800 pounds of cocaine. He has said that the word was out in prisons that the White House was open for pardon business. Now the word is out elsewhere that the war on drugs means little if you have a line to the White House. But the pardon that perhaps offers the best insight into the real Bill Clinton is that of his half-brother Roger. Roger is being falsely presented as a small time user who got caught. In fact, when his case was coming to trial, the US attorney, Asa Hutchinson, described him as one of the "tentacles of the drug distribution system" in Arkansas. Roger early developed a four-gram, 16 times a day cocaine habit, getting his stuff from New York and Medellin suppliers, based (as one middleman would later testify) on "who his brother was." According to federal drug probe testimony, Sharlene Wilson, one of his dealers, began selling cocaine to Roger as early as 1979. A therapist would testify later that Roger had been getting close to a "lethal dose." Meanwhile the Clinton boys' mother was hanging out at the race track with mobsters and other local figures, including Dan Lasater who bred race horses in Kentucky and Florida and had a box at the track next to hers. Mrs. Clinton introduced Lasater to Roger Clinton. Lasater gave Roger work and later loaned him $8,000 to help pay off a $20,000 drug debt. Lasater was a colorful character who made his early money with his Ponderosa steak house operation. His later sources of income would become far less clear, but he had plenty of money to throw around. According to FBI reports cited by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, he lost a Lear jet in Colombia in 1977 after authorities there seized it on suspicion of narcotics trafficking. Among the passengers on the jet was Jamiel "Jimmy" Chagra, a major American mob boss. Evans-Pritchard reports that the DEA opened a file on Lasater in 1983. Lasater was tipped off at once by one of his friendly sources in law enforcement. On another occasion he bailed out the governor of Kentucky, John Y. Brown, delivering $300,000 in cash in a paper bag to Brown at the Lexington airport. He also offered New Mexico governor Tony Anaya a job at the end of his term. The governor declined, but built - with taxpayer's funds - a 8,900 foot runway at Lasater's Angel Fire Ski Resort. Later, a US Customs investigative report would note that the resort was being used for drug operations and money laundering. The state attorney general investigated Lasaster for suspected "narcotics trafficking via aircraft with possible organized crime ties." Lasater also bought a ranch in Belize that was reportedly used for drug trafficking. One drug pilot described to Evans-Pritchard the trip from Belize to Arkansas, including having once been met by his pickup - an Arkansas trooper in a marked car. Said the pilot, "Arkansas was a very good place to load and unload." Sharlene Wilson partied with both the Clinton boys. She told the London Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in 1995 that she sold two grams of cocaine to Bill Clinton at the Little Rock nightclub Le Bistro: "I watched Bill Clinton lean up against a brick wall. He was so messed up that night, he slid down the wall into a garbage can and just sat there like a complete idiot." Wilson also described gatherings at Little Rock's Coachman's Inn between 1979 and 1981, where she saw Clinton using cocaine "quite avidly" with friends. State drug prosecutor Jean Duffey said that she had no doubt that Wilson was telling the truth. The stories were confirmed by others. Two Arkansas state troopers swore under oath that they had seen Clinton "under the influence" of drugs when he was governor. Historian Roger Morris, in his book "Partners in Power," quoted several law enforcement officials who claimed to have seen and knew of Clinton's drug use. One-time apartment manager Jane Parks said that in 1984 she would listen through the wall as Bill and Roger Clinton, in a room adjoining hers, discussed the quality of the drugs they were taking as they partied with numerous women noisily enough that neighbors
[CTRL] Poll: New Yorkers Don't Believe Hillary on Pardons
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Sunday February 25 9:40 AM ET Poll: New Yorkers Don't Believe Hillary on Pardons Photos Reuters Photo NEW YORK (Reuters) - Most New Yorkers did not believe Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites) when she denied knowing her brother was being paid for helping secure presidential pardons for two convicted felons, according to a poll published on Sunday. The Zogby International poll in the New York Post showed 58 percent of respondents did not believe Clinton when she spoke in public Thursday about her brother Hugh Rodham's work for a convicted drug dealer and a baldness cure scammer. The pardons were just two by President Clinton (news - web sites) during his final hours in the White House that have come under public scrutiny and marred Mrs. Clinton's first weeks as a U.S. senator. The U.S. Attorney in Manhattan has opened criminal probes into Clinton's pardon of fugitive billionaire financier Marc Rich -- whose ex-wife gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Democratic Party -- and whether four men from a Hasidic Jewish village in New York were pardoned in exchange for the community's overwhelming vote for Mrs. Clinton in last November's Senate election. Zogby's poll showed that 33 percent of respondents believed Mrs. Clinton when she said she knew nothing about her brother's efforts, for which he was reportedly paid $400,000. The poll also revealed that fewer New Yorkers had a favorable opinion of the senator than they did before the pardons controversy. Clinton, the only first lady to be elected to national public office when she won a U.S. Senate seat out of her adopted state of New York, said Thursday she was ``shocked and disappointed'' by the payment and her brother had returned the money. The poll of 502 New Yorkers was conducted Friday and Saturday and had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, the newspaper said. The pollster said 51 percent had a favorable opinion of Clinton while 46 percent had an unfavorable opinion of her. Last month, her favorable-unfavorable rating was 56 percent to 39 percent. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conservative Democrats: Drop gun control bills - The True Democrats
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Conservative Democrats: Drop gun control bills By Eunice Moscoso, Palm Beach Post Washington Bureau Sunday, February 25, 2001 WASHINGTON -- Some conservative Democrats have three words of advice for their party leaders: Drop gun control. "This is not an issue that helps the Democratic Party, particularly in rural America," said Rep. Jim Turner, D-Texas. "Those of us who believe in the Second Amendment and the right of gun ownership have been pretty outspoken in telling our friends this is an issue they need to leave alone." Turner and fellow House Democrats and Texans Ralph Hall and Max Sandlin are concerned about renewed efforts to push gun control in Congress. Two powerful senators -- Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz. -- are working on a bill that would increase background checks at gun shows and provide additional money to enforce existing laws. In addition, Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., plans to introduce a measure that would mandate background checks for all buyers at gun shows and expand the definition of a gun show to include events, such as flea markets and swap meets, where firearms are not the main product sold. The Texas lawmakers say gun control efforts have hurt Democrats, including former Vice President Al Gore. "If the Democrats and the Gore campaign had not been so strident in opposition to gun rights . . . there's absolutely no doubt that Vice President Gore would be president," Sandlin said. "It cost him a tremendous amount of support across the South." Sandlin said that passing any gun control bill will be difficult, especially in the House. In the last Congress, with the Clinton White House clamoring for gun control, a bill never made it out of a conference committee. The measure started out strong in 1999, when gun control took the spotlight in Congress after the shooting tragedy at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. A month after the shooting, the Senate stunned the powerful gun lobby and voted for a juvenile justice bill that included provisions such as increasing background checks at gun shows. But the measure never made it through the House, and efforts to incorporate it into a joint House-Senate juvenile justice bill failed. With President Bush in the White House, chances for a gun control bill could be even more bleak. As governor of Texas, Bush generally sided with the National Rifle Association, signing bills that allow people to carry concealed weapons and prevent municipalities from suing gun makers. But supporters of gun control say that the issue has momentum because of increasing public support. "The gun issue works in different places in different ways," said Joe Sudbay, public policy director for the Violence Policy Center, a gun control group based in Washington. Women across the country strongly support gun control, as do urban and suburban voters, he said. Sudbay disputes that supporting gun control cost Gore the White House. The swing states of Pennsylvania and Michigan voted for Gore despite a strong anti-Gore campaign there by the NRA, he said. Some conservative and moderate Democrats, including Hall, say they are willing to listen to ideas about further regulation of gun shows and trigger lock requirements. "I understand that handguns are a problem. People get killed with them. Children get killed with them. And I think we ought to continue to pursue something on it," Hall said. But Hall also said he would have a hard time voting for "anything that violates or dents the Second Amendment" because the ultimate goal of gun control proponents is to outlaw possession, as the nation's capital has done. "I'm here in Washington, D.C. -- probably the most dangerous city in the northeastern part of the country after darkness falls -- with a painted glass between me and the outside world . . . and I can't have a gun in my home. Give me a break," he said. Turner said he hopes his party will focus on other matters. "The Democrats desperately need to unite behind issues that have a broad base of support within our caucus," he said. "There's a large number of Democrats who are strong supporters of the Second Amendment." *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths,
[CTRL] Breast Biter Involved In Pardons
-Caveat Lector- JAMES RIDGEWAY, VILLAGE VOICE: The mystery man in the Hugh Rodham pardon scandal may turn out to be Kendall Coffey, another Florida lawyer. The current coverage is focusing on Rodham, Senator Hillary Clinton's brother, and the $400,000 he was paid after President Clinton pardoned and commuted the sentences of two men, convicted herbalist swindler A. Glenn Braswell and drug smuggler Carlos Vignali. . . . But the man who actually prepared the testimonials and applications was Kendall Coffey, a former US attorney appointed by Clinton and lead attorney for the White House in the Elián González case . . . Coffey lost his US attorney job for biting a stripper. He is remembered for having lost a key drug case against two smugglers who had been accused of importing 75 tons of cocaine, said to be worth $2 billion. It was the biggest drug-smuggling case ever lost by federal prosecutors. On a February 1996 evening Coffey was at Lipstik, a Miami nude bar, where he had a private session in which stripper Tamara "Tiffany" Gutierrez danced naked for him. Inexplicably, Coffey lunged for her breast and missed, biting her on the arm. He was escorted out of the establishment. Coffey had put his tab on a credit card. When exposed, Coffey resigned. Most recently, Coffey was in the news as one of the attorneys working on the recount for the Gore campaign in Florida. VILLAGE VOICE http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0108/ridgeway2.shtml A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nat'l Guard Teams Found Unprepared
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Sunday February 25 12:55 PM ET Nat'l Guard Teams Found Unprepared By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - After three years and $143 million, the Army National Guard has no anti-terrorism teams ready to respond to nuclear, chemical, or biological attacks because of defective safety equipment and poor training, an internal Pentagon (news - web sites) review found. The Pentagon inspector general report said preparedness is so bad that Guard members at one point were given mobile labs with air filters installed backward and gas masks with incompatible parts. ``The (team) commanders and personnel lack confidence in the unknown, untested and unsubstantiated reliability of the equipment that they were issued,'' investigators said. Pentagon officials are ``moving as fast as we can'' to fix the problems, said Charles L. Cragin, who oversees the National Guard. ``All I can say is, everyone is working with great perseverance to resolve all the issues that the inspector general has identified,'' said Cragin, the acting assistant secretary of defense for reserve affairs. Pentagon planners authorized 10 teams in 1998 with a goal that they be ready for duty in 2000. But the National Guard so badly bungled preparations that none met last year's deadline, the report said. An additional 22 teams authorized by Congress in 1999 and 2000 are in various stages of formation. After investigators presented their preliminary findings last fall, the Pentagon transferred management of the teams and launched an official review. Many of the problems arose because officials tried to get the teams ready very quickly, Cragin said. The National Guard units, each with 22 full-time members, are supposed to help local authorities respond to a terrorist attack by identifying what nuclear, chemical or biological agents were used. But Pentagon investigators concluded that defective safety equipment could put team members at risk of succumbing to the very weapons they were meant to identify. Investigators found that air filters had been installed backward in the teams' mobile laboratories and team members were given gas masks with parts that were not designed to work together. One team commander, referring to the gas masks, told investigators, ``It probably would work. I'm just not willing to bet my life on it.'' Cragin said that problem has been fixed. Plans originally called for the teams to be stationed near Air National Guard bases so they could be flown to the site of a terrorist attack. A second draft of those plans, however, called for team members to drive their personal cars to attack scenes, which could be hundreds of miles away. The guidelines have not been completed. Coinciding with the recent release of the Pentagon report, a congressional commission recommended focusing the National Guard on protecting U.S. territory from weapons of mass destruction. President Bush (news - web sites) last week said he would like to see the Guard and Reserve ``more involved in homeland security.'' Frank Hoffman, a researcher for the U.S. Commission on National Security, said the problems with the National Guard response teams show the Pentagon is not paying enough attention to terrorist threats. ``Everyone knows we're not prepared,'' said Hoffman, an officer in the Marine Corps reserves. Cragin said all safety problems identified by the inspector general will be fixed before he recommends that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld certify the teams ready for duty. Cragin said he did not know when he that would be. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] More Stats On The Jailer In Chief Of Negroes
-Caveat Lector- A REPORT RELEASED by the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice's Justice Policy Institute scores former President Bill Clinton for a "prison legacy... more punitive than those of former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush combined." The report finds that during former President Clinton's first-term 148,000 more state and federal prisoners were added than during President Reagan's first term, and 34,000 more than were added during President George Bush's four-year term. The study also showed that the incarceration rate of African Americans continued to rise substantially under Clinton. In other findings, the study reports: In total, 673,000 inmates were added to state and federal prisons and jail during President Bill Clinton's two terms in office, compared with 343,000 under Bush and 448,000 under Reagan. For African-Americans, the incarceration rate continued to increase by an average rate of 100 per 100,000 per year during the Clinton years. This comes on top of an already rapid increasing incarceration rate during the previous 12 years. Between 1980 and 1999, the incarceration rate for African Americans more than tripled from 1,156 per 100,000, to 3,620 per 100,000 -- nearly nine times the rate for all US citizens. Under President Bill Clinton's eight years, the number of prisoners under federal jurisdiction doubled (from 80,259 to 147,126), and grew more than it had under the previous twelve years of Republican rule. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] French find US war pilots body
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! French find US war pilotâs body Susan Bell in Paris THE remains of a US Second World War pilot discovered near the wreckage of his fighter plane over 55 years after he crashed into a field in northern France may belong to a relative of General George Patton, it emerged yesterday. The airmanâs remains were found by a local farmer and dug out of a clay field at La Longueville, between Maubeuge and Bavay where they had apparently lain undisturbed since his Mustang P51 plunged from the sky in 1944 or 1945. Metal identity tags found next to the body enabled gendarmes to name the young pilot as William Patton. Personal effects, including the airmanâs tie and leather jacket, complete with the insignia showing his rank of lieutenant were also found almost perfectly preserved. The discovery was made on Thursday by local farmer Luc Druet, who recently decided to drain the clay soil in his field and had called in a team of experts to carry out the work. He was joined by Arnaud Bourriez, a 29-year-old local who had became obsessed with rumours that a fighter plane had crashed in the area towards the end of the war. "I knew, because several people had spoken to me about it, that a plane had crashed behind the old railway station," said Mr Bourriez. Mr Bourriez and Mr Druet first discovered a machine gun, before digging up pieces of the wreckage. "Then suddenly I saw white material, cords... it was the parachute," Mr Bourriez told the local paper, La Voix du Nord. Nothing had burned during the crash and debris from the fuselage, the engine, propeller and the radiator were uncovered virtually intact. Armed with six machine-guns and powered by a V12 engine, the Mustang P51 only had room for the pilot. The police said US experts would try to determine whether the pilot was related to Gen George Patton. The crash is surrounded by mystery. What caused the plane to plunge to the ground? Was the Mustang a victim of enemy fire or did it crash because of engine trouble or pilot error? The authorities want to find out if there were witnesses, did anyone go to the site of the crash, was the pilotâs body visible and if so, why was he not given a burial? Further digging is planned to find out whether other objects belonging to the pilot are buried beneath the soil of La Langueville. Gendarmes are hoping the arrival of a US army delegation next week will help them find the answers. The US authorities are consulting air force archives in order to trace William Pattonâs flight plan and the date of his disappearance. While the date of March 1944 is clearly marked on the parachute found next to the pilotâs remains, elderly residents of the village remember a plane crashing nearby while there was snow on the ground, leading gendarmes to believe that the Mustang probably crashed sometime that winter. Following last weekâs discovery, a local historian specialising in aviation, Jack Guillemin, has found that La Voix du Nord, in its edition of 17 January, 1945 carried a report of a US plane which had crashed in the region two days earlier. "On 15 January, at about 11:30am, at about 500 metres from the railway station at La Longueville, an American fighter plane, apparently lost in fog, crashed to the ground," read the article. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[CTRL] Is the party over for Chelsea?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Is the party over for Chelsea? Robert Tait Amid the maelstrom that continues to envelop them, a major landmark will be passed in the Clinton family tomorrow; Chelsea comes of age. The only daughter of the still compulsively newsworthy ex-president and the recently elected senator for New York will turn 21. In normal circumstances, it should be a matter for raucous rejoicing. The once gauche teenager with the gaudy brace is but a memory, ready to strike out into a fully-fledged state of independence. But for Chelsea the auguries could hardly be grimmer. With the raging pardons controversy casting as thick a pall over the former first family as anything they ever encountered during their scandal-plagued White House years, the mood of celebration will be decidedly dampened. Her fatherâs reputation is now in unmitigated disrepute; her motherâs political career is tarnished, perhaps beyond repair. For Chelsea, who was a model of public decorum throughout the Clinton presidency, these troubling considerations may be lightened by the knowledge that she is now old enough to celebrate her birthday by legally imbibing alcohol (21 is the legal drinking age in America). But what does it say about the say about Chelsea's long-term future? How will she be affected by the experience of witnessing her parentsâ lives assailed by an unremitting avalanche of allegations, denunciations and revelations? The lifetime track records of the offspring of presidents present a predictably mixed picture. Some fade into obscurity; Others reappear to experience a brief 15 minutes of fame (or infamy) in their own right; very occasionally, still others will be cast by their fatherâs aura into a lifetime of reflected celebrity; and just once in a blue moon, along will come one so impressed by their fatherâs former job that they decide to seek it for themselves. There are no obvious clues as to which category Chelsea will fall into. During the Clinton White House years, she was assiduously protected from media intrusion. Interviews were out of the question; Chelsea, in fact, was barred by her parents from speaking to the press. The sound of her voice remains a mystery to the public. Nor does history necessarily offer a guide. There is simply no precedent for the child of a president having to watch the strains in their parentsâ marriage being aired in public. That experience may have shaped her beyond measure. At the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, psychologists speculated on the toll the revelations of her fatherâs misdeeds might be taking on the first daughter. The abiding public image of Chelsea was provided when the saga was at its zenith. It was August 1998. Her father had at last brought himself to openly admit his "inappropriate" relationship. The first couple were estranged, irreconcilably so it seemed at the time. The media ogled for evidence of a marital break-up. But when the President and First Lady emerged from the White House, on their way to the presidential helicopter taking them to their summer vacation on Marthaâs Vineyard, there was Chelsea plonked strategically between them, holding on to the hand of each parent, a living symbol of familial unity. It was an intensely political gesture, the mark of a young woman willing to step into the breach when her parents were emotionally indisposed. Bearing that incident in mind, the newly mature Chelsea seems an unlikely candidate for a future of anonymity. For all her parentsâ protection, she has been close to the spotlight since she was 12. Fame and attention wonât feel unnatural to her. Nor does the glow of celebrity surrounding the Clintons show any signs of fading, even if their reputation is now in freefall. So now that she is old enough to escape the protective parental cocoon, Chelsea may become fair game for a media that was only just managing to restrain itself while her father was in office. The setting for this could be in Britain. Chelsea is due to graduate from Californiaâs prestigious Stanford university in the spring. She is said to have expressed a desire to follow a path trod by her father more than 30 years ago by studying at Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship. In a sense, that would follow a pattern. Bill and Hillary seem to have been grooming their daughter to follow in their footsteps into a life of high-profile public service. Last year, while the teenage twin daughters of George Bush scarcely made an appearance on the campaign trail, Chelsea assumed a greater visibility than ever. With Mrs Clinton campaigning in the New York senate race, she took on the role of an ersatz First Lady, accompanying her father on numerous diplomatic trips abroad and on a visit to US troops in the Balkans. She was at the presidentâs side at the United Nations global summit in New York last September. When Clinton was locked in intensive talks
[CTRL] Pardon probe rows worsen
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Pardon probe rows worsen Monday, 26 February 2001 20:00 (ET) Pardon probe rows worsen By P. MITCHELL PROTHERO WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 (UPI) -- As the next round of congressional hearings about former President Clinton's last minute controversial pardons approaches, a flurry of activity Monday saw one witness invoke her Fifth Amendment right not to testify, and another receive a letter threatening contempt proceedings. Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., chairman of the House Government Reform Committee and fierce Clinton critic who is leading the inquiry into the pardons, denounced a key Democratic fundraiser for invoking her constitutional right against self-incrimination. He also told the former president's lawyer David Kendall that the refusal of the Clinton library to release its donor records could result in a contempt of Congress finding. Beth Dozoretz, a former top fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee and close Clinton friend, told the committee that she would not testify at a March 1 hearing. Burton had wanted to question Dozoretz about fundraising she conducted for the DNC and the Clinton library, and whether it was connected to the pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich. Denise Rich, Mr. Rich's ex-wife, who gave more than a million dollars to democratic causes, has already refused to testify at an earlier hearing. "The committee has just been informed that Beth Dozoretz will exercise her Fifth Amendment rights against self incrimination, and that she will refuse to testify on March 1, 2001," Burton said. "I am extremely disappointed. She now joins Denise Rich, who has already taken the Fifth. It is my hope that when she comes before the committee on Thursday, she will change her mind and answer the committee's questions. It is very troubling that Beth Dozoretz and Denise Rich, both close friends of former President Clinton, who discussed the Rich pardon with him, would refuse to testify." The Burton inquiry is one of three probes investigating a number of pardons issued by the former president on his final day in office, especially that of Marc Rich and his partner, Pincus Green. The U.S. Attorney's office in New York is conducting a criminal probe into the pardons of the two men, who failed to return to the Unites States from Switzerland 17 years ago to avoid prosecution on more than 50 counts of racketeering, wire fraud and income tax evasion arising from a sanctions-busting oil deal with Iran. And the Senate judiciary committee is also looking into the matter. The three parallel investigations are looking into allegations that pardons were sold in exhange for cash given to democratic causes, including the Clinton library and Mrs. Clinton's senatorial campaign. Last week, they expanded to cover allegations that Clinton's half-brother Roger lobbied on behalf of at least a half-dozen close friends who did not receive pardons, and a $400,000 fee received by Hugh Rodham, Florida-based lawyer and brother of former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, from the families of two men he represented who did receive clemency. Clinton Attorney David Kendall was also sent a letter Monday from the committee that threatens to hold him in contempt unless he allows committee investigators to examine the records that detail large donations to the library effort. Last week Kendall refused a request to turn over records of donations exceeding $5,000, citing the constitutional protection of free association. Clinton library Chairman Skip Rutherford has been asked by Burton to testify on March 1 about donations made to the library that might have influenced Clinton's decisions on pardon matters in the dying moments of his administration. Burton used a letter to explain the rationale for demanding the lists of donors, saying that besides donors that might have tried to help Rich, or his partner Pincus Green, the committee wants to check to see if any other pardon recipients might have made donations to the fund. Burton also offered a compromise: Rather than turning over the whole list to the committee, the library could simply make the list available to congressional staff, who would eliminate any names they agreed were irrelevant, before handing it over to the committee. Unless Kendall allows committee staff to examine the list of donors who gave at least $5,000, Burton threatened to hold a vote charging him and the library organization in contempt of Congress. He also said that would question Rutherford on Thursday and would subpoena the library's bank records unless the list is turned over. Also subpoenaed to testify at the hearing are three former Clinton aides: White House counsel Beth Nolan, chief of staff John Podesta and adviser Bruce Lindsey. Committee investigators are still waiting for rulings from the State Department on whether Rich is still a U.S. citizen and from intelligence
Re: [CTRL] Moon Landing A Hoax?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As for von Braun (and that little v designates nobility) Bull! It means nothing more than 'from' or 'of', the same as 'van' means in Dutch...plenty of non-noble Germans have 'von' names, just as many non-noble Dutch have 'van' names... 'van Dyke' means 'of Dyke' or 'from Dyke'...'von Braun' means of, or from, Braun... You should listen to Tom Paxton's Ode to Werner Von Braun June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is This The Bible Calendar Code the Oh So Secret Communist Timetable
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - we all remember PeeWee Herman arrested in a sleazy sex house Actually he was arrested in a movie theater... and now we have Rosie O'Donnell dressed like Cat in Hat - all part of a master plan. Heck, I remember Richard Burton playing the hookah-smoking catepillar in "Alice in Wonderland"... Was that part of 'a master plan'? Or are these all JUST ACTORS, PLAYING WHATEVER ROLE PAYS A SALARY? keep wondering why Jack Rubenstine also known as Jack Ruby of Jewish Mafia, I'm still waiting for your tidbits of wisdom regarding Richard Nixon... After all, when Nixon was senator, Jack Rubenstein was one of his best 'informants', and Nixon intervened on Rubenstein/Ruby's behalf to prevent the Kefauver Hearings from subpoening Rubenstein/Ruby to give evidence... And according to "Arrogance of Power", Nixon was being paid off by the Meyer Lansky faction of the mafia...Nixon in fact often went to Cuba in pre-Castro days to gamble in Lansky's casinos, and also had a suite in one of Lansky's hotels (managed by one of Lansky's henchmen) for which he (Nixon) never had to pay You have plenty to say about other politicos of the era, but you are strangely silent regarding Nixon... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- From: "JJ Jones" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for helping to clear the issue up about Mary Magdalene. I have been doing some research and find nothing of such reference in the Bible about her "profession". If memory serves me right, it was her mother who approached Jesus and asked him if he could help her daughter who suffered from demon possession. Therefore, in conclusion, being demon possessed is Mary Magdalene's only and greatest sin, according to the Biblical account. Also, it is interesting to note that Mary Magdalene was the first Apostle. The word Apostle meaning, "one sent forth". She was the first one sent forth with a message to the followers of Christ that he was alive and had been resurrected. Therefore, I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly have been the first Apostle. According to an article I read in Bible Review, Mary Magdalene enjoyed much honor and respect in the early church, and indeed was elevated to a status not unlike that accorded "Sophia", the Goddess of Wisdom... It was only when Rome imposed its rules, regulations, and customs (carried over from pagan days) -- customs which did NOT allow for women to attain high office -- was the Magdalene painted with the slur of being a prostitute... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In search of Mary Magdalene Part 1
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- He would not even have had access to such a person. There were no Pagan temples in Jewish Jerusalem. Jesus grew up in the boondocks, not the capital. Even so, I doubt that boonie towns were integrated. Pagans were common, even after nearly a millennium of Jewish repression. Poor Pagans. I guess the I guess the Jews gave them a hard time about burring their children and other human sacrifices. All the Jews did was drive out the temples. The pagans remained. Many Jews themselves were pagans or still practiced elements of pagan religion (as do we today). If you mean Hellenism. Yes. If you mean something else, then not likely. They also married pagans. I doubt it. Mary could have been his sister. Indeed. She could also have been his wife. Some people say that the miracle of the wine and the water was at Jesus own wedding feast. That's my point. She either did or didn't exist, or if she did exist, she could have been anybody. Jewish culture as well as Jewish religion so strongly supported marriage that it is inconceivable that a man could reach thirty, still be unmarried, and not be utterly rejected by the other people of the culture. This is a good observation, but consider this. James, Jesus' brother was a NAZIR. A Nazir is the ONLY instance in Jewish culture where it is permitted to put aside the commandment to be fruitful and multiply. In other words, if one dedicates his life to the service of god, he may be a monk. James was a Nazir and second in line after Jesus in the leadership of the early movement. It would not be a leap to presume that Jesus was a Nazir too. Nazir, Nazarene, Nazareth have gotten jumbled in the translations of the Jesus legends. A Nazir abstained from sex, did not cut his hair, and was bound by strict rules of purity. He certainly couldnt have gained a following. He could and he did. He apparently got some part of John the Baptist's movement. This of course ALL speculation. But it's speculation within the correct framework. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Sharon Triumps, Peres Slithers, Zionism Shakes?
Now throw in Marc Richie Rich aka Reich for added delight and see how the taxpayers in the United States are being drained of their money by the Jewish Mafia.ah, but none dare call it Mafia, do they - Like Bnai Brith, Jewish Masonry - is there a difference? Saba ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] PERES AND COLLEAGUES "SLITHER ON THEIR BELLIES" "You're Giving Him [Sharon] The World!" MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 2/26: For those who still needed proof of the cravenness and duplicity of Israel's Labor Party, the party that spawned "Peace Now" and "Oslo" among other gross deceptions, it came today. Even top officials in the party can't stand it any more and are crying out in desperation and shock. "Slithering on its belly" says the former Foreign Minister, Ben-Ami. "You're giving him [Sharon] the world," former Justice Minister Beilin cried out, now faced with making good on his pledge to bolt the party after 30 years of acting as a lemming and stooge for Peres his mentor. Now the truth is finally seeping out. Peres and Sharon we now learn have been friends all these 30 years; all the while Peres claiming to the world's media to be ideologically close to Beilin, his protege who according to his own convictions is the total antithesis of Sharon. The party founded by Israel's godfather, David Ben-Gurion, is now proving that the supposed differences with the military Revionists, with the Jabotinskyites, has been mere window dressing all along, deception piled on top of prior deception. Now Labor seems to be showing its true colors -- indeed it's been a good cop/bad cop routine for decades now with so many, possibly Beilin among them, so terribly abused and mislead all along. And in turn Arafat and crowd have been taken for such a bad ride, though actually they mostly have themselves to blame since they were repeatedly warned that they didn't know what they were doing, that they didn't know whom they were dealing with, that they didn't realize where they were being taken and why. And in turn of course the Arafat crowd -- with their fancy homes, lavish tastes, VIP passes, foreign bank accounts, and corrupted personalities -- took their people into the greater bondage of today via the route of what was formerly known as "the peace process". If ever the enemies of Zionism needed any further vindication for their refusal all these years to believe anything either major wing of the Zionist movement was trying to sell them on, now they have it. "Nauseating", indeed. "Slithering on their bellies", true enough. If Beilin and Ben-Ami want to redeem themselves now they will have to do more than leave the Labor party; they and those who have professed to stand for an ideology divergent from oppression, torture, bondage, ocupation, and apartheid, should realize their moment of truth has come...as well. ISRAELI LABOR PARTY TO JOIN SHARON COALITION TEL AVIV (Reuters - 26 February) - Israel's Labor Party has agreed to join Prime Minister-elect Ariel Sharon in a unity government which supporters hailed as a bid to keep peacemaking alive and opponents condemned as a sham. "The country has a chance for peace and the party has a chance for renewal," Labour's Shimon Peres, a former prime minister who could become Israel's next foreign minister, said after the center-left party's Central Committee voted on Monday for the partnership. The vote, after a particularly stormy debate, paved the way for hawkish Likud leader Sharon to finalize coalition details with right-wing and religious allies and take office by an end-of-March deadline. "You're giving him the world," outgoing Justice Minister Yossi Beilin, a leading Labor dove opposed to the coalition, told the 1,600-member committee, which voted by a margin of 67 to 33 percent in favor of a unity government. "It's a bonanza: a Nobel prize winner in a government with 'Gandhi'," Beilin said, referring to peace laureate Peres and using the nickname of Rehavam Zeevi, whose National Union party advocates expelling Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza. Outgoing Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami told Labour's Central Committee meeting he was "nauseated" by the spectacle of the party "slithering on its belly" to join up with Sharon. Labor has been in disarray since Sharon crushed Ehud Barak in a February 6 prime ministerial election hastened by a Palestinian uprising that erupted after the Likud leader
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Fears over foot-and-mouth spark riots in Brussels
By FT.com staff - Feb 26 2001 11:17:18
Farmers in Brussels clashed with police on Monday outside European Union
headquarters amid growing fears foot-and-mouth disease would spread to continental
Europe from the UK.
The riots came as the UK reported two more cases of foot-and-mouth in the south-west
of England.
Any arrival of the disease on the continent would be a severe setback to farmers
already struggling with the emergence of BSE in cattle.
The threat of an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in Europe added further tension
to the planned protest over the BSE crisis being held ahead of Mondays meeting of
agricultural ministers at EU headquarters. Police fired water cannons to disperse
the farmers.
Foot-and-mouth and BSE, or mad cow disease, were expected to dominate the agenda of
Monday's meeting.
Nick Brown, UK agriculture minister, warned the European Commission that foot-and-
mouth disease might have been shipped across the channel from infected areas in the
south-west.
Mr Brown is expected to outline to fellow ministers measures to curb the spread of
foot-and-mouth, including the killing and incineration of thousands of livestock
carcasses. The UK has halted all exports of live animals, meat and dairy products.
Germany has started slaughtering livestock imported from Britain as a precautionary
measure to prevent an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease spreading to German cattle.
In Holland, more than 3,000 animals were slaughtered over the weekend after the
ministry of agriculture ordered an investigation of 18 farms.
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[CTRL] Rurope Panics!!!!!!
FOOT AND MOUTH PANIC: GERMANY CONFISCATES BRITONS' SANDWICHES... FARMERS FACE SIX MONTHS OF FEAR... COUNTRY MARCH POSTPONED... RIOTS IN BRUSSELS... THE PARIAHS OF EUROPE... CRISIS DEEPENS... THE MAKING OF AN EPIDEMIC... NO-GO BRITAIN...
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-Caveat Lector- Might add Captain Ahab, that in Germany McDonalds was coming out with porkburgersnow the pigs are diseased. Still nobody seems to believe this is sabotage and the biggest pig of all Henry Kissinger is at it again trying to deprive the public of cheap food? Something wrong here.you have Tony Blair in office who thrives on disaster as did Clinton who loved to dwell in ashes of Waco and Littleton but that is right, he did not attend the funerals of the little babies of Waco did he? So who is trying to destroy McDonalds and next comes what, Wendys - two of othe cleanest operations in the world? Slaughter of cows - saw picture of one being hung upside down and drug to ground to be burned this is sabotage and look to Tony Blair and Clinton who are serial killers for after all who was it tht sold the AIDS blood to canada which went to England and Ireland and who spreads Aids with Love and Kisses from the Sodomists fo which both Blair and Clinton claim membership - who spreads their love with AIDS about the world? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The German Nobility
So let me make a better reproductioni here and note the LITTLE V STANDS FOR NOBILITY http://www.genealogienetz.de/gene/misc/nobility_faq.html
Re: [CTRL] Rurope Panics!!!!!!
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-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/footandmouth/story/0,7369,443621,00.html Quarantine?!? The whole island(s)?!? AYR }}Begin The making of an epidemic Special report: Foot and mouth disease John Vidal, Paul Brown, Peter Hetherington, and Kate Connolly in Berlin Tuesday February 27, 2001 The Guardian The impossibly tangled web which Ministry of Agriculture staff began to unravel last week now extends across three animal species, five countries and many British counties as foot and mouth disease carried by British sheep threatens to spread though Europe and even further afield. But as mainland Europe continued yesterday to try to identify and quarantine or kill those animals which they suspect may have come into contact with infected British sheep, it was becoming clear that the continental meat trade is so complex that a sheep born in Aberdeenshire could be trucked 1,600 miles before being slaughtered as far away as Beirut. The detective story starts, for the moment, when 40 sheep were sent from Ian Williamson's Prestwick Hall farm at Ponteland near Newcastle airport to Hexham market on February 13. It is known that more than 3,500 animals were sold that day and all the buyers and sellers have to be traced and their animals monitored. The ministry hopes to complete tracing them in the next 24 hours. More than a week later, foot and mouth disease was confirmed among cattle at Prestwick Hall farm shortly after Burnside farm at Heddon-on-the-Wall - barely four miles away - was pinpointed by the Ministry of Agriculture as the likely source of the national outbreak. Vets believe the virus was carried from infected pigs by wind to Prestwick Hall farm, and then to a neighbouring farm at Westerhope, near Newcastle - confirmed yesterday as th e 10th outbreak. They believe that the 40 sheep from Prestwick were sold to Willy Cleave, a Devon dealer who has 11 farms in the west country where he keeps sheep before sending them on to British abattoirs or for export. The 40 were then shipped on February 15 to Longtown market, Carlisle, which is one of the largest sheep markets in Europe and also acts as a holding centre. However the ministry still does not know for certain whether these sheep were th e infected ones. What is known is that the Longtown 40 were collected shortly afterwards and taken to Mr Cleave's Highampton farm in Devon. Cattle there developed foot and mouth but it was not known at the time they had caught it from she ep. On February 21, some sheep from Highampton were trucked to Bromham slaughterhouse in Wiltshire, where they developed foot and mouth. The next day sheep from the same farm were sent to Northampton and sold at the local auc tion. Normally, about 85% of the 1,500 sheep sold that day would go for export but because the export route had been closed on February 17, these sheep would have been held by dealers. All are now being traced. Separately Mr Cleave had, on February 12, trucked 348 sheep from Devon to Germany via Dover on the Cap Afrique, Britain's only dedicated livestock export ferry. Since then according to the ministry, he had sold other batc hes of sheep to British dealers intended for export. All these are also being searched for. The last sheep exports from Britain to the continent were at 2am on February 17. The Cap Afrique left Dover loaded with hundreds of animals bound for Dunkirk. Farmer's Ferry, the company which owns it, said it had exporte d about 30,000 sheepin the two weeks before the ban. The ministry is having to trace all sheep exported on the Cap Afrique in the past three weeks. Yesterday, the German authorities traced the 348 sheep sent directly by Mr Cleave to Germany on February 12 and killed them as a precautionary measure. The Cap Afrique suspended all operations within hours of the first confirmed outbreak, but the European authorities say it may have been too late to prevent the disease spreading through Europe. After long journeys from as far away as Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and the west country, animals are known to be highly susceptible to disease. If any of those exported in the past few weeks had already been infect ed, they could easily have passed it on. Most live sheep exported from Britain are taken first to any one of more than 60 EU registered "holding stations" where they are kept, often with many thousands of other animals, for up to several days. British exporter s favour a handful of large stations in Belgium and Holland. However, according to Gilles Frojet of the major French holding station La Gatevinire at Argenton L'Eglise, there are many unofficial holding stations in mainland Europe which could also have received infected animals an d could possibly duck the authorities' investigations. Tracing livestock movements in Europe is difficult, said Mike Gooding of Farmers First, a British sheep exporter. British animals have full documentation, but many animals in continental
[CTRL] Fwd: Seven Deadly Sins
So this sounds like Profile of Hill and Bill with well toss in Marc Rich aka Reich and that lard ass brother of Hill...who returned how much was it $400,000? Reproduce this story and wonder what an exocist could do to relieve this country of this evil element and none of these people use their right names do they - like Legion - My Name is Legion for I am many? And throw in that glutton Hennry Kissinger too, for by now he probably takes two seats at the dinner table and eats the crumbs on the floor he would give to the kiddies? Old Murderer's Bible once had written "First let the kids be killed", rather than filled.the publisher I believe was executed on that onethe other error was just as deadly in translation. Saba THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS The Seven Deadly Sins -- GLUTTONY, GREED, SLOTH, ENVY, PRIDE, WRATH and LUST -- were preached in medieval sermons as a learning device to illustrate what could distract worshipers from being faithful. The "sins" appear in numerous international literary works, including the religious writings of Saint Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274); The Divine Comedy of Dante Alighieri -- Purgatorio; Chaucer's Canterbury Tales -- The Parsons Tale; and Spenser's The Faerie Queene. They are also graphically depicted in two striking paintings by medieval artist Hieronymus Bosch (1450-1516) -- "The Seven Deadly Sins" and "The Garden of Earthly Delights." Dictionary and biblical definitions follow: Gluttony: The habit or act of eating too much. For the drunkard and the gluttonous shall come to poverty; and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags. Proverbs 23:21 Greed: Excessive desire, especially for wealth; avarice. Yea, they are greedy dogs that can never have enough, they are so wicked that they cannot understand; they have all turned aside to their own way, every one for his own gain and his own advantage. Isaiah 56:11 Sloth: Disinclination to work or exert oneself; laziness. Slothfulness casts into a deep sleep; and a proud man shall suffer hunger. Proverbs 19:15 Pride: An overhigh opinion of oneself. Disgrace goes before destruction, and pride before misfortune. Proverbs 16.18 Lust: Bodily appetite; especially excessive sexual desire. Abstain from fleshy lusts, which war against the soul. Peter 2:11 Envy: Discontent and ill will over another's advantages, possessions, etc. Wrath is cruel and anger is outrageous; but who can stand before envy? Proverbs 27:4 Wrath: Intense anger; rage; fury; any action of vengeance. He who cools down his anger is a healer of his own heart; but wrath is the rottenness of the bones. Proverbs 14: 30 Return To Se7en Ah but as the Song of Solomon reads for jealousy - many waters cannot quench it for it is as cruel as the grave...and the look I remember on the evil Blair and Clinton when JFK Jr with his beautiful wife had to attend the moon anniversary occaision - that kid felt their hatred of him and backed away from them for he felt repelled by their very presense. And then he too, died..but von Braun whom Kennedy befriended - was this another reason why the Jejwish Mafia murdered them all? What abut all those German Scientists who went to Russia and in on saboage of our space program.why nobody seems to care do they that 3 astronatus were murdered in the Apollo and then the little matter of the Challengerand do not think the astronauts do not know what happened Never found any Kenned guilty of the 7 Cardinal crimes but boy that Clinton sure fits the profiles here. His Name Is Legion - we do not even know that guy's real name. Saba http://www.spacey.com/7sins.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: SBC - Saint Mary Magdalen
Thought if you had not read this you might enjoy it Tenorlove.I wondered if the 7 Cardinal Sins were not part of the Exorcists Ritual and perhaps the woman Mary Magalen who came from a noble family was considered too proud and did not debase herself enoughnow vow of poverty yet? But the way this is written I thought was fantastic..an example of these times a sultan might hae what he called a haram, but we would call it a cat house. If you read Numbers in the bible ask yourself why Number5 to 29 would be missing from a masonic bible = looks like a planned divorce to meoh those Masons. Used to all them the battering rams. Saba Saint Mary Magdalen, the Beautiful Penitent By the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary In order to know what great love is, one should study , the beautiful penitent, who washed the feet of Jesus with the water of her tears, and dried them with the towel of her hair. Saint Mary Magdalen's audacity, her courage, her eagerness, gave Christian love a true impetus in all the saints that followed her. She was an outstanding girl, the love-flamings of whose heart, the love-anguishings of whose soul, consoled Our Lord when He needed comfort most when His feet were pierced by nails, His head by thorns, and His heart by man's ingratitude. God would gladly make the world for the love one girl can give. Our Blessed Lady is God's perfect maiden. But next to Our Lady, Saint Mary Magdalen is the girl in the life of Our Lord whom He most loved. She was His overwhelming favorite, because her love was the kind that never counts the costs. Her bright eyes were always full of tears for Jesus alive and sitting at a feast, for Jesus dead and laid in a tomb. How Saint Mary Magdalen first met Jesus, we are told in the Gospel of Saint Luke. Saint Mary Magdalen learned that Jesus was dining, one night, at the house of Simon, a Pharisee, and without waiting for an invitation or an introduction of any kind, she burst through the guests to get to Him. Her only thought was to show Jesus how thorough her love had made her sorrow and her repentance, for Mary Magdalen, the daughter of a rich and noble family, was reputed a great sinner. Never once did she think of the reproaches and rebukes which the Jews would heap upon her, in the house of a Pharisee. The Pharisees believed that all sinners remained sinners; they believed that all except themselves were sinners. Unmindful of their scorn, Saint Mary Magdalen knelt behind Our Lord while He was seated in this house full of bearded misogynists, and washed His feet with her tears and dried them with her hair. And, kissing His feet, she anointed them with precious ointment. Tears and kisses, the highest priced oils that money could buy, and hair which was her crown these were her substitutes for words. And they were a thousand times more eloquent. When Simon, the Pharisee who had invited Jesus to dinner, complained within himself saying: "This man, if He were a prophet, would surely know who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth Him, that she is a sinner," Our Lord quickly defended Saint Mary Magdalen. "Simon," He said, "I have something to say to thee. . . . I entered into thy house, thou gavest Me no water for My feet, but she with tears hath washed My feet, and with her hair hast wiped them. Thou gavest Me no kiss; but she, since she came in, hath not ceased to kiss My feet." And then Our Lord uttered His glorious tribute: "Wherefore I say to thee: Many sins are forgiven her because she hath loved much." And turning, Jesus said to Saint Mary Magdalen, "Thy sins are forgiven thee." Saint Mary Magdalen is the queen of penitents. Her special title is Penitent. That is the way she is referred to in the Church's liturgy, and that is the way we lovingly remember her. And so beautiful is penitence in the eyes of God, that He is willing to have this girl who loved Him with every breath of her being, and whom He loved with a most special tender love known throughout all the Christian ages by a word which reveals afresh, for every new generation, the story of her sins. Men and women, whose own lives should cause them to hang their heads before the beauty of her love and dedication, know only her shame and the casting out from her of seven devils. And they think her akin to themselves, in some familiar way. What so few realize is that Saint Mary Magadalen, because her gratitude and humility are equal to her unparalleled love, is delighted to bear, through all Christian centuries, the title Penitent in order that through her the mercies of her Lord might be made manifest. For actually, in all the days of her life that followed upon her anointing the feet of Jesus in the house of Simon, the Pharisee, she grew in love and prayer and contemplation to such a height that, except for Our Lady's whose life transcends in holiness that of the lives of all the saints together Saint Mary Magdalen's life may be said to be the holiest of all the
[CTRL] From the Desk of Hugh Rodham
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* A number of readers have e-mailed Mullings looking for more
information on the shadowy Pincus Green. After a significant
(albeit hardly exhaustive) search, the most I could find out was
that Green's full legal name apparently is "Marc Rich And His
Former Business Partner Pincus Green."
* Because Pincus has been living in Switzerland, we also looked
for the French version of his name, RosÈ Verte. And the German:
Rosa Gr¸n. Not much there, either.
* In one of those rare paroxysms of real reporting (which regular
readers know we are loathe to do here at Mullings) a person close
to the Congressional investigations told us that he is known in
some circles as "Poor Pinky" ("Pauvre RosÈ") because his former
partner Marc Rich is getting all the ink.
* "He is known, even by the people who have been trying to get
these guys back to the U.S., as a pretty good guy, 'a mensch',"
we were told. He apparently was not involved in all of Rich's
activities, and may even have offered to return to the U.S. to
face trial, but did not in order to support his friend.
* An insight into why The MSS Hillary defense screen was set up
so quickly last week is found in a Zogby poll published by the NY
Post over the weekend. According to the paper 58% of New Yorkers
polled don't believe the Senator when she said she knew nothing
about her brother's role in the pardons. Only 33% said they did
believe her.
* The MSS Hillary said in that press conference "When it became
known, around Christmas, that the President was considering
pardons Ö" What? "When it became known?" Did they do a lit drop?
A phone bank? Was this in a direct mail piece?
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From the Desk of Hugh Rodham
December 26, 2000
Dear Felon:
Merry Christmas! If you were one of those who took the time to
vote in Florida in last month's Presidential election, let me add
a very special thank you for going not only above and beyond, but
also around, your civic duty.
As you may have heard around the yard, my brother-in-law,
President Bill Clinton, is currently considering an undetermined
(but not unlimited) number of Presidential pardons and
commutations between now and the unfortunate end of his term at
noon on January 20th.
If you believe you are deserving of a pardon - or know someone
who is - please contact me as quickly as possible so I can review
your case and, if you meet certain criteria, arrange to have your
case taken DIRECTLY to President Bill Clinton.
Hollywood superstar Harry Thomason has already taken advantage of
this wonderful offer. As have wealthy New York socialites, Los
Angeles Businessmen, and many, many others.
In your initial letter or e-mail please include the name and
phone number of the person who will be responsible for handling
the billing. If this is an off-shore phone number, please advise
them to expect a collect call.
Don't delay! Time is short!
Contact your "Pardon Partner" today, walk out tomorrow!
Sincerely,
Hugh Rodham (Hillary's Brother)
Pardons 'R Us, LLP
Miami, Florida
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[NOTE TO COPYWRITERS:
(1) The words "in-law" in the phrase "brother-in-law" may keep
many inmates from reading any further. Can we substitute
something like "my brother by marriage?"
(2) Do we think the phrase "Time is short" is appropriate in a
letter to people in prison?]
* Roger Clinton (now clearly identified as Bill's HALF brother)
has had his fingers in the Pardon Pie as well. He said to the LA
Times in response to a question about being paid for his pardon
work, "Nobody on my list, which consisted of only my best friends
I've known for 20 years or more. Not only did I not get any
money, but none of them got pardons."
* I'm pretty certain I can make a list of all of the people I
would consider to be friends over the past 20 years and none of
them, to my knowledge, needs a pardon. All - ALL - of Roger's
"best friends" needed pardons.
* And, he went oh-for-six. Hugh went two-for-two. Roger Clinton:
Sings as well as he lawyers. And vice versa.
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[CTRL] AP: Outrage in Colombia Over Clinton's Commutation of Drug-Money Launderer's Sentence
-Caveat Lector- Feb 26, 2001 - 07:53 PM Outrage in Colombia Over Clinton's Commutation of Drug-Money Launderer's Sentence By Andrew Selsky Associated Press Writer BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - Colombians were stupefied and outraged Monday by former President Clinton's decision to commute the sentence of an American lawyer convicted of laundering money for Colombian drug traffickers. Colombians learned of the commuted sentence for Harvey Weinig - and of the lawyer's links to traffickers - from local news reports this weekend, and it prompted complaints of a double standard in the drug war. The issue comes as President Bush and Colombian President Andres Pastrana are to meet in the White House on Tuesday to discuss strengthening the U.S.-backed drug war in this South American country. Weinig was sentenced in New York in 1996 to 11 years in prison for laundering tens of millions of dollars in drug proceeds and failing to report a kidnapping. U.S. prosecutors said he was associated with the Cali drug cartel and one of the heads of a major international ring operating in New York and other cities, including in Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Puerto Rico and Colombia. In his final days in office, Clinton commuted the American lawyer's sentence to just under six years, U.S. officials said. He is scheduled to be released from federal prison on April 16, the U.S. Bureau of Prisons said. Alfonso Valdivieso, Colombia's U.N. ambassador who as top prosecutor during the mid-1990s oversaw efforts to put drug traffickers behind bars, called Clinton's action "sordid." "For Colombia, this situation is quite disappointing and delivers the wrong message," Valdivieso said on national RCN radio. Colombians - who have endured a bloody drug war and seen some of the country's drug kingpins extradited to the United States for long prison sentences - often complain that their country is making all the sacrifices while drug-consuming nations don't do enough. "This gives us the notion that the anti-drug fight is asymmetrical," former Foreign Minister Rodrigo Pardo told The Associated Press. "The United States demands more from Colombia than it is disposed to do itself." The Justice Department in Washington confirmed that due to Clinton's decision, Weinig's sentence was commuted on Jan. 20 to five years and 270 days. The congressional committee investigating the series of pardons Clinton made in his last days said its probe encompasses the Weinig sentence commutation. "We are aware of the situation and we are looking into it," said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the House Government Reform Committee. Gustavo de Greiff, who preceded Valdivieso as prosecutor general when the Colombian government fought a bloody war against the ruthless Medellin cocaine cartel, said Colombia should reconsider its policies regarding drug trafficking in light of Clinton's action. De Greiff, during his tenure as prosecutor general, was accused by Washington of "coddling" drug traffickers because of his policy of negotiating sentences with traffickers who surrendered and turned in cohorts. "This now all seems incredible to me," de Greiff said on national radio. "What President Clinton has done, they criticized us for. And we offered sentence reductions to those who had not been captured yet, while the United States offers this to people who have already been caught." Pastrana's administration has called for tougher U.S. action against money laundering, particularly involving U.S. banks. AP-ES-02-26-01 1953EST = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] REU: Denise Rich Visited White House Night Before Pardon
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010226/ts/clinton_pardons_dc_42.html Monday February 26 11:26 PM ET Denise Rich Visited White House Night Before Pardon By John Whitesides WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Denise Rich, former wife of fugitive financier Marc Rich, visited the White House with Democratic fundraiser Beth Dozoretz the night before former President Clinton granted her ex-husband a pardon, sources said on Monday. Denise Rich, whose donations of more than $1 million to Democratic causes and $450,000 to Clinton's library fund have raised questions about the pardon, visited the White House at least 13 times during Clinton's presidency, the sources said. The final visit came in the early evening hours of Jan. 19, just hours before Clinton granted the controversial pardon to Marc Rich on Jan. 20, his final day in office. The sources said the two women arrived at the White House about 5:30 p.m. and possibly attended a party for close friends of Clinton. It was not known when they left. Dozoretz, a friend of Clinton's and the former finance chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, told congressional investigators on Monday that she would not testify at a hearing on the pardon. Like Denise Rich earlier this month, she cited her constitutional right against self-incrimination in refusing to appear before the House Government Reform Committee. The panel, one of two congressional committees examining widening allegations of influence peddling and possible illegal payments linked to the pardons for Rich and others, had subpoenaed Dozoretz to appear at the hearing on Thursday. Dozoretz was recruited by Marc Rich's attorney Jack Quinn to lobby Clinton on the pardon, and Quinn has testified to Congress that she spoke to Clinton at least twice on the issue. ``Because of the pendancy of other investigations, Ms. Dozoretz, upon advice of counsel, has elected to invoke her constitutional privilege not to testify,'' her attorney, Thomas Green, told the House committee in a letter. The U.S. Attorney's office in New York is conducting a criminal probe into Clinton's pardon of Rich and his partner Pincus Green, who fled to Switzerland 17 years ago to avoid prosecution on more than 50 counts of racketeering, wire fraud, income tax evasion and illegal oil trading with Iran. Investigators are looking for links between the pardon and donations from Denise Rich, who gave more than $1 million to Democratic causes and $450,000 to help build Clinton's proposed presidential library. House investigators have searched White House visitor logs obtained last week to determine when and how often Denise Rich, Dozoretz and others visited the White House in the final weeks and months of Clinton's presidency. The parallel congressional and criminal investigations have expanded to cover allegations about other pardons, including charges that Clinton's half-brother Roger lobbied on behalf of at least a half-dozen close friends who did not receive pardons. Also being investigated is a $400,000 fee given Hugh Rodham, lawyer brother of former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, by the families of two men he represented who did receive clemency. Sen. Clinton, a New York Democrat, said last week she was unaware of the payments to her brother, which were subsequently returned. House Committee Chairman Dan Burton of Indiana, who sent a letter to Clinton library officials on Monday threatening contempt charges if they do not make their donor lists available, said he was ``disappointed'' with Dozoretz's decision not to testify but she must still appear. ``It is my hope that when she comes before the committee on Thursday, she will change her mind and answer the committee's questions,'' he said. Burton said the refusal of the two women to testify and the library's refusal to turn over its donor lists, subpoenaed by the panel earlier this month, were signs of ``stonewalling tactics'' on the investigation. ``It is beginning to seem that the reason people aren't answering questions is because they are hiding something,'' Burton said. Burton's panel has subpoenaed lists of all donors who contributed more than $5,000 to the Clinton library fund, hoping to find evidence of possible payments funneled from Rich through conduits or other donors with links to the pardons. Clinton attorney David Kendall has rejected the request, calling it an ``an unprecedented intrusion.'' Burton, one of Clinton's harshest congressional critics, offered a compromise to Kendall on Monday in which investigators would view the lists and eliminate those names that were not pertinent to the investigation before they were handed over to the panel. The Thursday hearing in the House is expected to focus on how the controversial pardon of Rich was handled by White House staff in the frantic final days before it was granted. Testimony and e-mails at the first House and Senate hearings indicated an intense debate raged among White House
[CTRL] WP: Denise Rich Late Visitor to White House
-Caveat Lector- Denise Rich Late Visitor to White House Dozoretz Also Present On Eve of Pardons By Susan Schmidt and Peter Slevin Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, February 27, 2001; Page A01 Denise Rich and former Democratic Party finance director Beth Dozoretz were at the White House on President Clinton's final night in office when he was deciding on a raft of controversial pardons, including one for Rich's ex-husband, Secret Service records show. The two women arrived together around 5:30 p.m., according to knowledgable sources. It is not clear what they were doing at the White House residence that evening, and they could have been among numerous guests at a late-night party attended by close Clinton friends and family. But the Secret Service logs provide the first evidence that the women were actually in the White House on the night that the controversial pardon was being decided. The records also show that Rich had been to the White House at least 13 times before, and Dozoretz had been there dozens of times over the years, according to sources familiar with a House committee investigation of the pardon of fugitive commodities trader Marc Rich. Yesterday, Dozoretz said that she will invoke her Fifth Amendment privilege rather than testify Thursday before the House Government Reform Committee, which is investigating the pardon of Rich along with other questionable pardons. By asserting her right against self-incrimination, Dozoretz would join her friend Denise Rich, a major Democratic campaign contributor and pardon advocate for her former husband, in refusing to detail the intensive lobbying efforts on behalf of Rich. Committee Chairman Dan Burton (R-Ind.), who has subpoenaed records of White House visits by Denise Rich and Dozoretz, suggested that the two women -- along with Clinton, Marc Rich and the Clinton library foundation -- are "stonewalling." Yesterday he threatened library chief Skip Rutherford with a contempt citation if he does not give committee staffers access to donor lists. "Unfortunately, the facts are not coming out," Burton said in a written statement. "It is beginning to seem that the reason people aren't answering questions is because they are hiding something. This is unacceptable." Attorneys for Dozoretz and Denise Rich did not return calls last night for comment on their White House visits. The Secret Service logs show Rich visited between 13 and 19 times during the course of the administration. On Jan. 19, when Clinton was up most of the night weighing pardons, there was a White House party whose guests included several other people who have been linked to the pardon controversy. Among those who attended to socialize and watch movies was Hugh Rodham, the first lady's brother, who was paid nearly $400,000 for advocating pardons for a convicted cocaine dealer and for a marketer of herbal remedies who was convicted of fraud and perjury. Hollywood producer Harry Thomasson, a Clinton friend from Arkansas who was also there, sent two hometown friends to Hillary Clinton's campaign treasurer for help obtaining a pardon. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that two of every three Americans believe the Clinton pardons are an important issue. Only 16 percent consider the matter "not important at all"; about half believe Congress should hold further hearings, with half opposed. Despite the political skirmishing and the heavy media coverage, however, the pardons issue has not significantly affected public perceptions of Clinton's presidency. In all, 59 percent of the 1,050 randomly selected respondents said they approve of Clinton's performance as president, with 37 percent saying they disapprove. The Rich pardon is the subject of two inquiries on Capitol Hill and a criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney in New York, where Rich was indicted in 1983 on charges of tax evasion and trading with the enemy. Prosecutors are examining whether the Rich pardon and the commutation awarded to four convicted swindlers in New Square, N.Y., are the product of influence-buying. While Dozoretz was closely involved in the Rich case, Burton's committee is more interested in the testimony of three senior Clinton aides who consulted with the former president as pardon decisions were made. Committee Republicans are worried that Clinton White House counsel Beth Nolan, chief of staff John D. Podesta and counsel Bruce Lindsey will decline to answer some questions by citing executive privilege or attorney-client privilege. The committee asked the former president to waive the privileges. His lawyers are considering the request, informed sources said. The Burton committee butted heads for years with the Clinton White House in the panel's aggressive inquiries into the financing of the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign. Republicans on the committee frequently alleged that the White House was coordinating an effort to discourage cooperation with the congressional probes. Burton suggested
