[CTRL] DIE THE BELOVED COUNTRY

[Amelia]

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DIE THE BELOVED COUNTRY

Posted By: Rixon
Date: Monday, 13 August 2001, 1:12 p.m.

I found this on a link to rumor mill new front page and it says all
that needs to be said about modern South Africa. It interested me
because although born and educated in Britain I'm more South
African than British. My father is South African, I've lived there
for more than half my life and my fore-bearers fought against the
British and were imprisoned by them in the world's first
concentration camps; set up, not by German Nazi's, but by the
British Empire during the Anglo-Boer War.

Having lived there for so long I can say quite categorically that
South Africa is a land of stunning contrasts: of great natural
beauty and horrific violence too. Two examples suffice to
illustrate this: when I first went to South Africa at seventeen I
thought that I knew how to fight. But my martial arts education
only began in South Africa because the inhabitants are hard
fighters as the British were to find out during the Anglo Boer War.
In contrast the land itself is stunningly beautiful and so too are
the country's women, particularly the white women. Indeed it's no
exaggeration to say that they are the world's most beautiful women.
Likewise the country is blessed with rich mineral deposits, which
is why the Illuminati have taken such interest in South Africa. And
it's not the lands ordinary people who are benefiting from its
mineral wealth but the Transnational corporations who are enriching
themselves with the aid of corrupt politicians in the ruling ANC.
Two figures help emphasise just what the "New South Africa" is
like: since the ANC assumed power in 1994 nearly 200,000 people
have died as the victims of violent crime. Whilst the murder rate
is one hundred times higher than America's; were talking about
virtual genocide here as the following reveals.

Die The Beloved Country
By Anthony C Lobaido
World Net Daily

Imagine if white farms in Iowa were being attacked by
machinegun-toting black gangs on a daily basis. The men are shot,
and females as young as 4 years old raped and mutilated. Imagine if
the government in Washington, D.C., was led by black communists.
Imagine if members of the local police force in Iowa were also
black, hostile to whites, illiterate and only had their positions
because of affirmative action.

Well, welcome to the reality of the "New South Africa." Despite the
Madison Avenue spin doctoring on the great Nelson Mandela and his
ruling ANC, South Africa has decayed into a hell of rape, AIDS,
murder and anarchy over the past seven years. Mandela's rainbow
nation has failed. It has done worst than fail - it has turned into
a genocide against white South Africans. Why should we be
surprised? History shows that all Marxist states will eventually
decay into genocide - look at Pol Pot's Cambodia, Stalin's Russia
and Mao's China.

Killing whites has become the sport of choice in Kenya, Zimbabwe,
South Africa and, looking at the most recent riots, in the good old
USA. Can you imagine the media outcry if whites were killing
blacks? Imagine if someone were killing a spotted owl?

Many whites have fled South Africa during the last six years of ANC
rule - almost one third, according to some statistics. Nelson
Mandela has pleaded with whites to stay in the country, and even
begged for those who left to live in Canada, Israel and New Zealand
to return to help rebuild the nation.

More recently, current South African President Thabo Mbeki (who
admits he grew up memorizing the works of Karl Marx) has announced
that South Africa has formed an alliance with communist China. For
decades, South Africa had helped Taiwan, but last year, Mandela
switched official recognition from Taiwan to China.

Mbeki has applauded the seizures of white-owned farms in
neighboring Zimbabwe, even as ANC black revolutionary cadres step
up their terror campaign against white farmers in South Africa. His
communist flank secure, Mbeki recently announced in a speech to
parliament that he is effectively handing over control of South
Africa's economy to international financier George Soros and a
group of 12 Western transnational corporations.

What does this mean to white South Africans, especially the
Afrikaners or "Boer" farmers who feed the nation? Well, one must
remember that the Afrikaners are tough, like the Israelis and South
Koreans. All of the men served in the army at one point. The
Afrikaners drove the Russians and Cubans out of Angola in the 1980s
Border War. They are experts at using dynamite and guerilla
warfare. According to Peter Hunam's book, "Mandela's Nuclear
Nightmare," they even have a few atomic bombs hidden in Zululand.

Things have really come full circle in South Africa. Only a decade
ago the Afrikaners were being called "Nazis" by the liberal
establishment media for the excesses of Apartheid. Yes, the evil
deeds of South African racists like Dr. Wauter Basson and "Prime
Evil

[CTRL] Fw: [FP] Watch It! Face-It developer claims "we need regulation"

[Amelia]

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From: "ScanThisNews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:27 PM
Subject: [FP] Watch It! Face-It developer claims "we need
regulation"


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SCAN THIS NEWS
8.12.2001

Watch It! Face-It developer claims "we need regulation"

According to the following AP story, companies involved in
development and
sales of facial recognition systems are "calling on Congress" to
"regulate
the use of surveillance systems in public places."

Watch out! If you just said anything like "good" or "it's about
time," you
simply do not understand the industry's objective.

Don't believe them!

Whenever an industry asks Congress to "regulate" its activities,
rest
assured the sole objective is to "legalize" or "authorize" some
activity
which may otherwise be unlawful or not protected by law. The reason
these
companies want Congress to get involved now is to secure federal
protection
for continued sales and use of their products, even in cases where
state or
federal laws might otherwise prohibit such use.

You must read closely, between the lines, and with great
skepticism, what
these industry leaders are saying. Then, take into consideration
what they
are not saying. Rest assured, the best lawyers the industry can buy
will
craft these "regulations" so that they sound plausible to the
public and at
the same time protect the industry's interests with regard to the
most
profitable applications.

Take for example the words of Dr. Joseph Atick, chief executive of
Visionics
Corp., speaking on behalf of the Security Industry Association:
"police
departments and others should be limited to only using the system
to track
convicted criminals, search for fugitives and other specific
purposes."

Notice that Atick's comments leave room for all other manner of
surveillance
of citizens, such as, for example, locating a parent who is
delinquent on
child support payments; or someone who has failed to pay a parking
ticket;
or any other "specific purpose."

Be assured also that broad application of these systems will be
facilitated
through the use of driver license records. Provision for this is
already in
place under the mis-named, 1993, Driver's Privacy Protection Act
(DPPA)
which authorizes government agencies to use the now-common digital
driver
license photos for facial recognition programs and other uses
"specifically
authorized under the law of the State that holds the record, if
such use is
related to the operation of a motor vehicle or public safety." The
DPPA also
authorizes use of digital driver license photos "for use by any
government
agency ... in carrying out its functions."

A very few so-called "privacy advocacy" organizations, such as
EPIC,
actually supported the above-mentioned DPPA which authorizes this
abuse of
driver license photos.

Consider too the following quotes taken from an official booklet
published
by the US Department of Transportation with help from the American
Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators for the benefit of law
enforcement, titled The Highway Safety Deskbook:

"With a central image database of every driver in a state, the
public safety
community has a ready-made storehouse of photos to be used in
criminal
investigations. Due to the electronic nature of these images, they
can be
obtained in seconds via a computer retrieval unit in the department
or even
faxed or thermal printed directly to the patrol car. These same
images can
also be brought into a photo array for suspect identification.

"The uses for these images are limited only by the wants and needs
: of the
public safety community.

"Work is progressing on digital standards (common data elements and
compatible records) so that a national and, perhaps, an
international
network of digitized images can be established."

Watch this soon-coming, proposed legislation very closely. Oppose
all such
legislation that authorizes public installation of these
surveillance
systems which can and will be linked to driver license records. The
only
purpose for these "regulatory" laws is to protect the industry, not
individuals.

House Majority Leader Dick Armey seems to truly understand this
issue.

There is NO public application of any facial recognition system
that is
acceptable.

Scott

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Security Firms Call for Video-Surveillance Law
By Andy Sullivan

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010808/pl/tech_privacy_surveill
ance_dc_1
.html

Wednesday August 8 5:24 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Facing a growing public backlash, the
security
industry called on Congress Wednesday to regulate the use of
surveillance
systems that match faces of people on the street with a database of
known
criminals.

The developer of a prominent face-scanning system, along with the
head of
the industry trade group, said the federal government neede

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding bill

[Amelia]

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So for you this is a battle of whose beliefs win??  Yours or
someone else's?  I don't think cures are promised in most cases,
just better treatment and I think the drug companies will
absolutely love this.  Better yet, let them fund it.  Some good has
come from genetic research thus far but how about  GM foods?
Deformed clones of animals or ones that die?  Many people with
severe health problems have said they do not want to be treated
with methods thus derived.  Force them to anyway or just don't tell
them??   It is a bit more complex than just "Christian Extremists."
One time some people are opposed to human experimentation and
another all for it.  I find that confusing.


~Amelia~

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From: "Steve Wingate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding
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Correction: There is *potentially* plenty of fetal stem cell
tissue, much more
than the 60 lines Bush is limiting the research to.  The problem is
that in order
to create stem cells from fetal tissue the fetus has to be
destroyed. Of course
most are destroyed anyway unless they are implanted into a woman's
womb
or kept frozen forever. But that does not make it right according
to the
Christian extremists, and unfortunatly they have an inordinate
influence of our
President who's intelligence is below normal and who's family has a
financial
interest in drug treatments of many of these illnesses. The last
thing they want
is a CURE!  Typical.

Steve



Steve


On 13 Aug 01, at 23:46, Conspiracy Theory Research Li wrote:

> There is plenty of fetal stem cell tissue, much more than the 60
lines Bush is
> limiting the research to. Too bad he is so afraid to offend the
extreme
> rightwing Christians.
>
> Steve



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[CTRL] State prison population declines for first time since 1972

[Amelia]

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State prison population declines for first time since 1972
BY CHRISTOPHER NEWTON The Associated Press



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WASHINGTON - The number of people behind bars in state prisons fell
during the second half of 2000 in the first decrease since 1972,
the Justice Department said Sunday.
There were more prisoners in state prisons at the end of the year
than at the beginning - 1,236,476 to 1,228,455 - and the total
number of people in state and federal prisons was up 1.3 percent
over 1999.

However, that overall rate of growth compared to the average annual
growth rate of 6 percent since 1990 and was the lowest percentage
gain since 1972. Additionally, the absolute increase of inmates -
8,021 to state prisons and 10,170 to federal prisons - was the
smallest since 1980.


Nebraska is bucking the trend. Steve King, planning and research
manager for the state Department of Corrections, said Sunday
evening that the department set a record with more than 3,900 total
inmates last month, far above the monthly high last year of nearly
3,600.

Overall, Nebraska saw a 5.6 percent increase in federal and state
prisoners from 1999 to 2000, the Justice Department figures show.


Criminologists said the slowing growth in overall prison
populations, coupled with a decline of 6,243 in the last six months
of the year in state prisons, is significant because it may signal
the end of America's prison boom.

"There are young adults who have never drawn a breath in the United
States during a period when the prison population wasn't growing,"
said Franklin E. Zimring, a criminal law professor and head of a
research branch at the University of California at Berkeley.

"Until now, the full-time business of prisons has been the growth
of the prison population. Finally, this looks like real
stabilization. If it continues, it is a new era in law
enforcement."

The decline comes after a few years of slowing growth at state
prisons. During the first six months of last year, the state prison
population grew by 14,264 inmates.

During all of last year, 13 states had substantial decreases in
their state and federal inmate populations, including Massachusetts
(down 5.6 percent), New Jersey (down 5.4 percent), New York (down
3.7 percent) and Texas (down 3.2 percent).

Allen J. Beck, a chief Justice Department researcher, said some of
the declines may have been caused by states changing parole rules
to make revocations less likely.

"In New Jersey and Ohio, they are less likely to revoke parole than
in prior years. New York has also become more lenient," he said.

Dan Macallair, vice president of the San Francisco-based Justice
Policy Institute, said attitudes about drug use contributed to the
decline. He said communities and judges are getting tired of
repeatedly sending drug offenders to prison and are looking for
alternatives.

"Several states, especially California, are beginning to find ways
to send less people to prison and are looking at treatment as a
viable option," said Macallair.

Other experts said the prison population should be falling as fast
as the crime rate. Violent crime in the United States fell by a
record 15 percent last year, the government has said.

"We have a prison infrastructure in place that supports itself
regardless of what drops in the crime rate we see," said Justin
Hansen, a criminologist who works for New York City. "Prisons keep
lowering the bar to fill every bed."

The study also found that both the state and federal prison systems
grew more quickly than ever between 1990 and 2000, when more than
500,000 beds and 351 state facilities were added.

Racial disparities in prisons are also holding steady, the report
showed.

About 10 percent of all black males between 25 and 29 years old
were in federal and state prisons, compared with 2.9 percent of all
Hispanic males and 1.1 percent of all white males in the same age
group.


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[CTRL] MCVEIGH MENTOR ROGER MOORE WORKED FOR OLIVER NORTH

[Steve Wingate]

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Date sent:  Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:59:58 -0700
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Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] MCVEIGH MENTOR ROGER MOORE WORKED FOR OLIVER NORTH
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Did everyone here know that McVeigh's
multi-million dollar mentor Roger Moore worked
previously for Oliver North?  That is news to me.

Is anyone else concerned that there are
Iran/contra players coming out the yin yang in
this case?

The Arkansas Democrat Gazette found Roger Moore
had 8 sets of ID and 16 social security numbers.
Rodney Bowers at the Gazette dug up a ton of
strange details of Moore's life that all point to
a high level career of intel work.

It is in the testimony before the JOHN KERRY
COMMITTEE where the juicy stuff appears.  Moore
made millions in the pontoon boat business.  Heavy

machine guns could be mounted to these boats and
they were sold to the contras via the offices of
Oliver North --- who maintained an office close to

the office of General Richard Secord near TINKER
AIR BASE in OKC during the high point of the
Iran/contra scandal.

Oliver North acknowledged these boat deals with
Moore during questioning before the committee.

Moore who was entirely unmentioned in the McVeigh
trial took McVeigh in to live at his Royal Ark
home.  Moore testified at the Nichols' trial only
to help the prosecution establish where McVeigh
and Nichols obtained the money to build the bomb.
Moore's testimony and that of his live in girl
friend (he also had a live in wife) turned out to
be a REAL fertilizer story.

McVeigh traveled with Moore to at least 2 gun
shows where McVeigh met with Strassmier --- Tulas
and Las Vegas.

One of the most tantalizing clues in this case was

a letter from Moore to McVeigh telling McVeigh he
"should work more closely with Steven Colburn."
Colburn was a degreed chemist with extensive bomb
making experience.

Unlike the rest of us non spooks Moore had
extensive travel in the Middle East.

Moore is back in Fort Lauderdale in the gun boat
business --- no doubt gearing up for PLAN
COLUMBIA.

Brian Quig

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding bill

[Steve Wingate]

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Correction: There is *potentially* plenty of fetal stem cell tissue, much more
than the 60 lines Bush is limiting the research to.  The problem is that in order
to create stem cells from fetal tissue the fetus has to be destroyed. Of course
most are destroyed anyway unless they are implanted into a woman's womb
or kept frozen forever. But that does not make it right according to the
Christian extremists, and unfortunatly they have an inordinate influence of our
President who's intelligence is below normal and who's family has a financial
interest in drug treatments of many of these illnesses. The last thing they want
is a CURE!  Typical.

Steve



Steve


On 13 Aug 01, at 23:46, Conspiracy Theory Research Li wrote:

> There is plenty of fetal stem cell tissue, much more than the 60 lines Bush is
> limiting the research to. Too bad he is so afraid to offend the extreme
> rightwing Christians.
>
> Steve



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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding bill

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On 14 Aug 01, at 1:09, Amelia wrote:

> Why do research in an area with limited
> amount of tissue?

There is plenty of fetal stem cell tissue, much more than the 60 lines Bush is
limiting the research to. Too bad he is so afraid to offend the extreme
rightwing Christians.

Steve


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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding bill

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Adult stem cells are not as promising as the stem cells derived from the
fetus. Federal funding helps advance science. Eventually more lines will be
added when results are forthcoming and we the people demand that
religious influence over our goverment to the detriment of science must stop.

Why are some against progress especially when it can help so many *living*
people? What is wrong with sacrificing a few frozen cells in order to help so
many who are much more developed and actually have a brain?

Steve


Steve

On 14 Aug 01, at 1:09, Amelia wrote:

> Like he really thinks it will end here with these 'cell lines'!
> There will always be a need for one more and one more.  I think
> this money could have been better spent on adult stem cell research
> where there is truly an unlimited supply.  Why does the govt have
> to fund everything anyway!  Why do research in an area with limited
> amount of tissue?  And how do they know these lines will replicate
> indefinitely?  That HAS to be theory only and we have seen the
> problems with cloning.
> ~Amelia~



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[CTRL] Fw: NESARA-National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act

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Title: NESARA-National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act



 
: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:13 AM

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DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
~Amelia~
 

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  NESARAThe National Economic Stabilization and Recovery 
  Act 

  
  

   
  
  A Practical Solution to Americas Problems
  Had enough bad news lately? A dip in the economy, layoffs and cutbacks, 
  uncontrollable public and private debt, a government insensitive to your 
  problems, insufficient progress on environmental issues, unfair 
  distribution of taxes, a continuing adverse balance of trade, high paying 
  industrial jobs transferred overseas, troubled outlook for the future, the 
  rich getting richer and the poor struggling to make ends meet.
  Alan Greenspan says that inflation is under control. If true, why does 
  the purchasing power of your hard-earned dollars shrink every day? Who is 
  kidding whom?
  You enjoy your home, but have you ever really noticed that during 30 
  years of indentured servitude you bought the bank another two or more 
  homes? Does the current system seem fair to you?
  Is there a reason why the financial elite call you a wage slave?
  If you could do something about this madness, would you? Continue 
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Title: NESARA-National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act









  

  NESARA
  The National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act
   
  




  

   
  A Practical Solution to America’s Problems
  Had enough bad news lately? A dip in the economy, layoffs and cutbacks, uncontrollable public and
  private debt, a government insensitive to your problems, insufficient progress on environmental issues,
  unfair distribution of taxes, a continuing adverse balance of trade, high paying industrial jobs
  transferred overseas, troubled outlook for the future, the rich getting richer and the poor struggling
  to make ends meet.
  Alan Greenspan says that inflation is under control. If true, why does the purchasing power of your
  hard-earned dollars shrink every day? Who is kidding whom?
  You enjoy your home, but have you ever really noticed that during 30 years of indentured servitude
  you bought the bank another two or more homes? Does the current system seem fair to you?
  Is there a reason why the financial elite call you a “wage slave”?
  If you could do something about this madness, would you? Continue…
   
  

Sponsored by the NESARA Institute
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[CTRL] Fwd: ERRI Counter-Terrorism Archive Page

[Aleisha Saba]

Interesting item - but when an Israeli uses his little back pack neutron
bomb which they have had for some time, do you think they are ready to
lay themselves doon and dee for Israel?

No way..they will just have the ADL call the newspapers and hire
another Palestinian to do the job for them but warn their friends to
stay home today, as they did at Oklahoma City that day McVeigh dropped
off a load of fertilizer?

Saba




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[CTRL] Fw: Bush threatens veto in stem-cell funding bill

[Amelia]

-Caveat Lector-

Like he really thinks it will end here with these 'cell lines'!
There will always be a need for one more and one more.  I think
this money could have been better spent on adult stem cell research
where there is truly an unlimited supply.  Why does the govt have
to fund everything anyway!  Why do research in an area with limited
amount of tissue?  And how do they know these lines will replicate
indefinitely?  That HAS to be theory only and we have seen the
problems with cloning.
~Amelia~

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[CTRL] Hepatitis C Could Be Deadlier Than AIDS by 2010

[Amelia]

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Hepatitis C Could Be Deadlier Than AIDS by 2010
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2001
It wasn't discovered until 1989, but hepatitis C is already killing
10,000 people annually, and the Center for Disease Control predicts
that by 2010 it will claim more victims than AIDS.
Between 1993 and 1998 AIDS deaths had dropped to just below 18,000
a year from a high of more than 45,000. During the same period,
hepatitis C infections skyrocketed by a dizzying 260 percent - a
rate of increase that by 2010 will leapfrog it past AIDS as a
killer.

Capable of lurking undetected for as long as 20 years before
symptoms such as jaundice, fatigue and abdominal pain appear,
hepatitis C, by the time it has been diagnosed, is already in its
chronic stage, when serious liver scarring and the threat of cancer
and death exist.

"For now we don't have a way of predicting who will wind up in that
shape," Richard Manch, a liver specialist at Good Samaritan
Regional Medical Center in Phoenix, told Forbes magazine.

Writing in the Aug. 20 issue, Rob Wherry reported that experts do,
however, predict that the number of victims getting treatment for
hepatitis C - 200,000 - could double to 400,000 in a mere four
years.

The disease is contracted through intravenous drug use or blood
transfusions. The only drug capable of treating it -
Schering-Plough's Rebetron - costs a staggering $18,000 annually.

According to Forbes, the drug is a combination of ribavirin and the
anti-cancer drug interferon, which when given separately have
little effect, but in combination help prevent hepatitis C from
spreading by causing it to make defective virus cells. Rebetron
works in 40 percent of hepatitis C infections but carries the risk
of side effects such as depression and anemia.

"Like other plagues, hep-C has stymied scientists," Wherry wrote,
adding that experts have been unable to grow it in the lab.
Moreover, it is tough to prevent it from replicating itself While
so-called protease inhibitors shut down AIDS enzymes by locking
onto readily available toeholds, hepatitis-C's protease is smooth
and drugs slide off it like water off a duck's back.

According to Forbes, a new family of drugs promises to boost cure
rates from 40 percent to 56 percent (a "cure" being defined as six
months virus-free), and some doctors hope to wipe it out entirely.
Unlike HIV, which lives in the nucleus of the cell, hepatitis C
lives outside the nucleus. That easier access gives the new family
of drugs an opportunity to rid the body of hepatitis C, while HIV
drugs can at best suppress the virus.

A big question is why AIDS gets many times the attention of this
deadly disease.

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[CTRL] Multi MIllion Dollar lawsuit anticipated Against ADL

[Aleisha Saba]

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Well it looks like the ADL is going to be involved in another law suit -
a multi mllion dollar law suit which should be interesting to follow.

Today I received a letter from the Council of Conservative Citizens,
Ohio Valley Chapter in which it claims their gruop was portrayed wrongly
...and by whom?   Your Anti Defamation League.As a result a novice
reporter reported this group was a "hate" group and that they could be a
physical threat to the community - the claims are false and were charged
as being "deliberate attempt to hurt" the organization's growth.

So the Anti Defamation League of Bnai Brith, who has taken money from
murderers thiieves and drug dealers, has taken on a local group which
they assumed was white - yet this group has many members of different
ethnic groups.

Some of the speakers who have appeared at this groups meetings, a Samel
Francis nationally syndicated columnist and former writer for the
Washington Post, Jared Tayor, president of the New Century Foundation
and author of Paved with Good Intentions who has appeared on major
television shows for years and has been featured on  Span repeatedly
according to the last meeting notice.This group now labeled a "hate"
goup by ADL doesn ot have racial requirements for its memebership and
has many prominent members who are ethnic minoritiesthey claim due
to the ADL this group is now labeled a Hate Group and as usual false
image made by ADL>

What I love about this - the ADL broke their ass to call the Columbus
Dispatch to portray this group in black - and it appears the Dispatch
may be named in the lawsuit, but the representative with whom I spoke
today, stated their lawyer will work this stuf out.

Now this organized crime element that supports and supported the ADL,
known as the Mafia and Murder Inc.,  surely this group is to be
considered a "hate" group.

Now the reporter here for the Columbus Dispatch, "Scoop" Bruce
Cadwallader, called the head of the Conservative Citizens and informed
that they had reeived his name and telephone number from guess who - why
the Anti Defamation League - you know, a call at high noon like when
these assholes called the FBI and BATF at Oklahoma that day to warn them
they were all on endangered species list but to stay home - so they did
and let the babies in the nursery?   One of those phone calls, the type
that is done deliberately to smear and person or a corporation or a
group -  and get this - this reporter asked this man "what does y9u
house look like, what kind of tattoos do youo have".

Also in this same issue the Salvation Army was portrayed as anti-gay,
and claimed in another article that white hostility was holding "blacks
back in the workplace"

Now on the other hand Malik Zulu Shabazz, President of the New Black
Panther Party spoke at the funeral recentl of the man killed by the
police in Cincinnati blamed for started the "race riot" where Cincinnati
looked like war zone.he attempted to turn loose a crowd of blacks in
the streets chanting Black Poer, calling white people crackers and
devilswell that works two ways - for I call this man black trailer
trash, a phrase I have coined which may be attributed to Joshua 2 on
this list and of course the ADL supports the NAACP and Gay Price
instigating racial problems in an attempt to get old whitey
killed.but Cincinnati is armed to the teeth now having witnessed the
savages in the streets.

For those who want to read Zulu Shabazz, Presidnet of Black Panther
Party who is in part funded by ADL through contributions - want to read
his words at the funeral go to

http//www.heritageiost.org.

Oh no we do not want to incite blacks to riot - but I want to know why
this criminal element in the ADL a front for psuedo masonic order of
Bnai Brith - why did they put this Conservative group on their hate
list, and oh ball called the newspapers?

Columbus is dying - and all the kings horses, and all the kings men,
will never put it together gain for it is a cesspool in the
night.and not much better in the daytime.   The new and first black
Mayor wants to open the streets 24 hours a day - and won't that be
sweet?   This man looks spaced out most of the time - his eyes fixed and
set - but he seems sincere however,  at twilight time the streets are
full of lovely people - prostitutes, gays, cross dressers, and street
people begging..oh the Hyatt Regency flourishes at the taxpayers
expense though - ever eat one of their $12.00 hambergs while attending a
charity dinner?

Let us hear it from the Rabbi Daniel Lapin - who said and I quote:

"I wish we would all calm down a little; I mean, were it not for the
DL's screaming hardly anyone would now about Assad's pathetic
insults.but I imagine Abe Foxman must be facing a shortfall in
fundraising this quarter..I can sympathize with the ADL's cash flow
needs, especially with their $50 million dollar budget but this attempt
to whip up hysteria goes a bit far...sh

[CTRL] ERRI Counter-Terrorism Archive Page

[Aleisha Saba]

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[CTRL] The British Eugenics Establishment

[MIKE SPITZER]

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THE COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL POLICY

The British Eugenics Establishment

The British Race Scientists

A critical piece of information unearthing the dark origins of the Council
for National Policy is the fact that Nelson Bunker Hunt (financier and
executive officer of SIL's ILC, the Religious Roundtable, Campus Crusade
and JBS, and main funder/second president of the CNP) and Jesse Helms
(whose top political operative, Tom Ellis, was director of the racial
eugenics Pioneer Fund and second CNP president) were members of a racial
eugenics society -- the International Association for the Advancement of
Eugenics and Ethnology. The IAAEE, which is headquartered in Edinburgh,
Scotland, established a branch in the U.S. through the personal agency of
Lord Malcolm Douglas -- a member of the British Cliveden Set which
supported Hitler during World War II.

"[Lady Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton's] deceased husband, part of the British
aristocracy, was the brother of the host of Rudolph Hess when, in 1940,
Hess made his secret flight to England. Hess, a top aide to Hitler and Nazi
Party official, sought to meet with the British aristocratic circles known
as the Cliveden Set. Sympathetic to Hitler's war aims, the Cliveden Set
tried to get England out of the war it had declared against Germany in
September, 1939, after Germany invaded Poland. Hess was arrested and
imprisoned. After Lord Malcolm Douglas came to the U.S., he established an
American branch of a racial eugenics group headquartered in Scotland. The
oil billionaire Hunt brothers and Senator Jesse Helms are members of this
group. It was headed by Robert Gayre, who published the racialist Mankind
Quarterly until Roger Pearson took it over in 1978." 53.

"For an overview on 'race and intelligence,' Murray and Herrnstein
recommend two books by three Pioneer Fund recipients: Audrey Shuey, Frank
C. J. McGurk, and R. Travis Osborne. McGurk is the main authority they cite
to 'prove' that IQ tests are not racially biased.

He was one of the 'scientific' mainstays of the segregationist movement in
the southern US. In 1959 McGurk and Shuey became leading members of the
International Association for the Advancement of Ethnology and Eugenics,
first publisher of Mankind Quarterly. Other members included Senator Jesse
Helms and the oil billionaire Hunt brothers." 54. Carroll Quigley's
Anglo-American Establishment identifies the Cliveden Set as the British
elites who later formed the Rhodes-Milner Round Table. Cliveden was the
home of Lord Astor, a decisive voice in the Milner Group:

"During this period of almost sixty years [1889-1940], this society has
been called by various names. During the first decade or so it was called
'the secret society of Cecil Rhodes' or 'the dream of Cecil Rhodes.' In the
second and third decades of its existence it was known as Milner's
Kindergarten' (1901-1910) and as 'the Round Table Group.' Since 1920 it has
been called by various names, depending on which phase of its activities
was being examined. It has been called 'The Times Crowd,' 'the Rhodes
crowd,' the 'Chatham House crowd,' the 'All Soul's group,' and the
'Cliveden set'. . ." 55.

The late Walter Lippmann was not only a member of the Mont Pelerin Society
and of the Council on Foreign Relations, but also of the American Round
Table. Walter Lippmann, George Louis Beer, Frank Aydetlotte, Whitney
Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Green, Erwin D. Canham were part of
the American delegation to the Paris Peace Conference of 1919 after which
they founded the CFR with members of the British Round Table. 56.

Thomas Lamont was chairman of the Anglophile J.P. Morgan & Co. In 1926,
Lamont secured a $100 million loan for Mussolini, whose success as fascist
dictator of Italy and aggression against Ethiopia would inspire Adolf
Hitler. 57.

"The Morgan partners subscribed to an idea expressed by Walter Lippmann in
1915 that U.S. foreign policy would experience a 'crowning disaster' if
uninformed by a 'vision of the Anglo-American future.'" Quigley
acknowledged the Round Table's appeasement policy dating back to the Treaty
of Versailles:

"Those who are familiar with the activities of the 'Cliveden Set' in the
1930s have generally felt that the appeasement policy associated with that
group was a manifestation of the period after 1934 only. This is quite
mistaken. The Milner Group, which was the reality behind the phantom-like
Cliveden Set, began their program of appeasement and revision of the
[peace] settlement as early as 1919." 58.

The Order of St. Lazarus

Jesse Helms is also linked with the Knights of the Military and Hospitaller
Order of St. Lazarus of Jerusalem, which was founded in Britain by Robert
Gayre (publisher of the racialist Mankind Quarterly before Roger Pearson).
The Order of St. Lazarus was also established in the U.S. by Lord Malcolm
Douglas of the Cliveden Set: "In the 1960s, a Briton named Robert Gayre had
succeeded in founding a branch of the Order [of St. Laza

[CTRL] The Pedophocracy, Part V: It Couldn't Happen Here

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
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The Pedophocracy, Part V:
It Couldn't Happen Here

By David McGowan
August 2001
Prosecutor Dan Casey: “Did you exercise any kind of mind control over your
wife in order to get her to have sexual contact?”
Frank Fuster: “If I had that power, you think I would use it against … ? You
know ... I don’t ... I have never. I’m a normal human being.”
On August 8, 1984, Bobby Dean stood on the front lawn of the Fuster home in
the Country Walk housing development - a picture-perfect, planned community
of relatively upscale suburban homes in Dade County, Florida. By all
appearances, this was a small slice of paradise – an oasis untouched by the
grim realities of American society.

On this day though, Dean had a loaded gun in his waistband and he
fully intended to use it. He was there to finish the job that someone else
had failed to complete on December 18 of 1980. On that day, an unidentified
assailant had confronted Francisco Fuster Escalona (aka Frank Fuster) at his
place of business and shot him once in the side of the head.

Fuster survived the attack, which he explained to the police as a
botched robbery, though the officers thought it looked more like an attempted
execution. Dean didn’t get the chance to make another attempt; police were on
the scene in short order to arrest him.

Fuster himself surrendered to police two days later in response to
the issuance of an arrest warrant. He had been under investigation following
accusations by neighborhood parents that he and his wife, Iliana, had been
brutally abusing their children while in the trusted care of the Fuster’s
babysitting service – run out of their Country Walk home.

Fuster had, shall we say, rather questionable qualifications to run a
day care center. On January 16, 1969, Fuster pumped two shots into the heart
of a fellow motorist in New York City, killing him instantly. An off-duty
police officer was, curiously enough, an eyewitness to the summary execution.

Even more curiously, Fuster chambered another round and pointed his
gun directly at the armed officer – and yet wasn't shot. He was arrested
though, and tried and convicted before the year was out. On Halloween day
(needless to say, yet another occult holiday), he was sentenced to a ten year
prison term. He was back on the streets in less than four, after which he
received ‘psychiatric care.’

In November of 1982, he was convicted again – this time of a lewd
assault on a nine-year-old girl. Despite being his second felony conviction,
Fuster was sentenced to just two years probation. It was while on probation
for the child molestation conviction that Fuster and his underage wife
started up the babysitting service.

His probation officer apparently had no problem with this business
venture, although it brought Fuster into unsupervised contact with at least
fifty kids. At least thirty of them were horrifically abused. Fuster’s
probation officer also had no problem with the fact that Frank had
self-terminated his court-ordered psychiatric treatment in August of 1983.

No one really seems to have been too concerned about Fuster’s
babysitting service, which - in addition to being run by a convicted child
molester - was operating without proper licensing and in violation of local
zoning laws. Commercial enterprises were expressly forbidden in the
residential community.

Nevertheless, the service operated with the full knowledge of the
entity managing the complex. In fact, Fuster’s service used the name Country
Walk Babysitting Service, implying that his was an officially sanctioned
service provided for the community.

The management company, Arvida, denied there were ever any official
links to the Fuster operation after Frank's past and present activities were
revealed. This, of course, was to be expected. Given that Arvida was a
subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company, it wouldn't really do to be perceived
as having connections to a child molestation operation.

The fact remains though that the company took no actions against
Fuster for the illegal expropriation of the ‘Country Walk’ name or for
violating zoning regulations. Dade County also took a hands-off approach to
the Fuster business enterprise. Despite the fact that Frank lacked other
required licenses, the convicted murderer was issued an occupational license
to run the babysitting service.

Detective Donna Meznarich was the first police investigator sent to
look into the allegations being made by the Country Walk parents. She was
openly skeptical of the charges before she even knew what they actually were.
The parents felt that she came calling with an unmistakable attitude of
disbelief.

Nevertheless, enough evidence quickly emerged to issue an arrest
warrant for Frank Fuster for probation violations. Consid

[CTRL] BG: Trust benefits ex-BIA official

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Trust benefits ex-BIA official

By Sean P. Murphy
Boston Globe Staff
8/13/2001

FALLON, Nevada - Five months after overruling staff genealogists to grant
the Chinook Indians status as a gambling tribe, Kevin Gover, former head of
the Bureau of Indian Affairs, became the co-beneficiary of a $50,000 trust
with the help of the husband of one of the Chinook's earliest casino
advocates.

The exact purpose of the trust, established by a different tribe, the
Fallon Paiute Shoshone of Nevada, was unclear. Gover said he was unaware of
it, but his legal associates said it was a reserve for future work they and
Gover may do.

Gover is a subject of congressional inquiries into decisions in the last
weeks of the Clinton administration that expanded the number of tribes with
the power to open casinos. Now a lawyer-lobbyist for tribes, Gover has
steadfastly maintained that he received nothing from tribes that benefitted
from his official decisions. Indeed, Gover has received no legal fees or
other payments from the Chinooks.

But he and Dennis G. Chappabitty, a longtime friend and law school
classmate, are listed in Nevada as co-beneficiaries of the $50,000 Paiute
trust. Chappabitty's wife, Linda C. Amelia, is a Chinook who was a leader
in the tribe's fight for federal recognition.

The fund, according to Chappabitty, is tied to work he and Gover are doing
on behalf of the Fallon Paiute Shoshone.

Gover, in an interview, said he knew nothing about it. ''I have not asked
for a $50,000 fee and would not accept one,'' said Gover. ''My bill is not
close to that.''

Chappabitty said in an interview that he arranged to have Gover hired by
the Fallon tribe. He said that he assumed the trust account, which was
established by the tribe's lawyer, is intended to cover his and Gover's
future fees, but that he did not know any more details.

The lawyer, Todd Plimpton, said the trust account he controls is
''primarily'' for Gover and Chappabitty, but he later added that his own
fees could also be paid with those funds. The $50,000 was turned over to
Plimpton to hold in trust for Gover and Chappabitty by vote of the Fallon
tribe's council, he said.

''This $50,000 is nothing more than a retainer, and it will be drawn down
only upon work performed,'' Plimpton said. ''We will review the bills and
make sure everything is copacetic.''

The roughly 2,000 Chinooks of Washington state have long contemplated
construction of a casino near their ancestral lands along the Columbia
River, but investigators for the Bureau of Indian Affairs determined that
they ceased to function as an organized tribe in the 1880s, and therefore
did not merit federal recognition.

Gover, on Jan. 3, his last day as head of the bureau, personally rewrote
the findings of his research staff to grant the Chinooks the recognition
they sought.

The Boston Globe first raised questions about that decision in March,
noting that Gover's top deputy, Michael J. Anderson, then waited until his
last day in office, Jan. 19, to give preliminary recognition to two other
tribes whose authenticity had been firmly rejected by the Bureau of Indian
Affairs' staff historians, anthropologists, and genealogists.

One of those tribes is the Nipmucs, who are based in Central Massachusetts
and who have plans to open a casino and resort similar to the behemoth
Indian-owned Mohegan Sun and Foxwood casinos in Connecticut. The other is
the Duwarmish of Washington state.

In the Chinook case, the chief of research took the extraordinary step of
filing an angry memo after learning Gover intended to recognize the tribe
despite the staff's repeated and strenuous opposition.

Gover's ''edits to [our] recommendation made changes in the evaluation of
the evidence,'' wrote Lee Fleming. ''In our view, the finding is not
consistent with the requirements of the acknowledgment regulations.''

At a Senate hearing on the rapidly growing $10 billion Indian gaming
industry on July 25, Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, angrily
denounced the last-minute Gover and Anderson recognition decisions.

''A lot of interesting things happened in the last days of the Clinton
administration,'' said McCain, apparently also referring to Clinton's
controversial pardons to financier Marc Rich and others. ''And we intend to
get some answers on this.''

The inspector general's office of the Department of Interior, which
oversees the Bureau of Indian Affairs, is also investigating Gover, a
Pawnee Indian, and Anderson, a Muskogee (Creek).

Since leaving the agency, Gover has been a lawyer and lobbyist on Indian
issues for the firm of Steptoe & Johnson.

The Fallon Paiute Shoshone is a small and poor tribe, situated on a dusty
reservation in the desert about 60 miles east of Reno. What little money
the tribe has comes from interest on a $43 million settlement fund
established for the tribe by Congress in 1991 as payment for diverting
water away from the tribe by damming the Truckee River.

Chappabitty, a Com

[CTRL] NM: Juanita Broaddrick Dismisses Clinton Book

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Newsmax-Inside Cover

Monday Aug. 13, 2001, 3:32 p.m. EDT

Juanita Broaddrick Dismisses Clinton Book

Reacting to news that ex-president Clinton has snagged a $10 million book
deal where he promises to deal with the impeachment evidence against him,
Arkansas businesswoman Juanita Broaddrick says she doubts he'll address her
allegation that he raped her in a Little Rock hotel room 23 years ago.

In an exclusive message to her supporters on the conservative newsforum
FreeRepublic.com, Broaddrick said, "I have no reason to believe Bill
Clinton will ever answer questions regarding his 1978 sexual assault on me.
He would be foolish to refer to a self-incriminating subject for which he
has already been given a pardon in the form of silence."

Clinton has reportedly told his publisher Knopf that he will address
allegations central to his impeachment, such as claims by Sexgate accusers
Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Monica Lewinsky, in more than a cursory
fashion.

But as several books on Clinton's impeachment make clear, it was
Broaddrick's sworn statements, along with corroborating eyewitness
testimony given to House investigators, that persuaded up to 50 wavering
moderate Republicans to vote for his indictment.

In his book "The Breach," for instance, Washington Post reporter Peter
Baker recounted the last minute reluctance to back impeachment of
then-presumptive GOP Speaker of the House Bob Livingston.

Livingston momentarily wavered, sources told Baker, but resolved to press
the case only when his chief of staff reminded him, "We have a rapist in
the White House."

When NBC finally broadcast an exclusive interview with Broaddrick, which
the network held till after Clinton was acquitted in a Senate trial, three
quarters of those watching found her credible.

Still, despite a credible accusation of forcible rape leveled against a
sitting president, most journalists ignored Broaddrick's bombshell. Clinton
was asked just once about the alleged rape at a March 1999 press
conference. He referred the question to his lawyer, David Kendall.

Neither Clinton nor his wife Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a supposed
feminist who established Arkansas' first rape crisis hotline, has ever
personally denied Broaddrick's charges.



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[CTRL] MC - CHANDRA: UNRAVELING GOVERNMENT COVERUPS?

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Mind Control Desk:

CHANDRA: UNRAVELING GOVERNMENT COVERUPS?
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=6626

MEDIUM RARE - By Jim Rarey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

August 13, 2001

[This is the fourth in a series of articles by the author based on the
premise
that Chandra Levy’s disappearance and presumed death resulted from
information
she could have uncovered from Bureau of Prison records as part of her
official
duties there. (See bottom of this article for reference to earlier articles.)]

Whether or not Chandra actually had knowledge of the two massive government
cover-ups discussed in this article, the possibility or perception that she
did (or was actively pursuing either of them) would make her dangerous to
powerful people and would be reason enough for her elimination.

Before rejecting the idea that a "mere" intern could have such an impact, the
reader should delve into Chandra’s background as discussed in this writer’s
article "Chandra’s Dangerous Knowledge." The information in that article came
mostly from an in-depth story by Washington Times reporter Frank Murray.
Chandra was not an "ordinary" intern.

Chandra was peripherally involved in the Oklahoma City bombing story as she
worked with journalists and TV personalities arranging coverage of Timothy
McVeigh’s execution.

One of the key figures discussed in previous articles was Dr. Louis Jolyon
West. (There is a minor flap on the Internet over the spelling of his middle
name, at least three versions of which have appeared in various documents
and stories.)

Dr. West was one of the premiere scientists involved in mind control
experiments, supported by the CIA. He worked closely with Sidney Gottlieb,
director of the CIA’s infamous MK-ULTRA mind control program.

West allegedly visited McVeigh up to seventeen times in prison and may (it
is speculated) have been instrumental in persuading McVeigh to remain silent
about coconspirators in the OKC bombing.

This becomes plausible when coupled with McVeigh’s claim that he was
implanted
with a (biotelemetric) microchip during the Gulf war. Mind control researcher
Alex Constantine has documented (in his article, "The Good Soldier") the
tremendous scientific advances made in mind control since the early days of
Gottlieb and West’s experiments with LSD. (West is said to have accidentally
killed a bull elephant with an overdose of LSD, possibly leading to his
nickname of "Jolly.")

But West may also have changed the course of recorded history in relation to
the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Again in a prison venue, Dr. West "examined" Jack Ruby after his conviction
for killing alleged assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. At the time, Ruby had been
begging Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Earl Warren to bring him to
Washington so he could tell his complete story. Warren refused, for security
reasons, but condescended to meet with Ruby at the prison.

In a somewhat rambling (drug induced?) conversation with Warren, Ruby again
pleaded with Warren to be left alone in the room with the Chief Justice,
which
was refused. Ruby was portrayed in the media as  being paranoid and
incoherent
in that interview. Ruby died in prison,  reportedly of cancer, before his
appeal had been heard.

Dr. West was one of a number of psychiatrists "appointed" by the court to
examine Ruby. Several years later, before the House Select Committee on
Assassinations, chaired by liberal Democrat Louis Stokes of Ohio, Alan
Adelson (a Southfield, Michigan attorney who had represented both Jack
Ruby and his brother Earl) testified about Dr. West’s involvement.

Adelson said West was the last psychiatrist to deal with Ruby (Jack) and
the only one to diagnose paranoia. All the other psychiatrists and
psychologists were working with attorney F. Lee Bailey developing a
"psychomotor epilepsy" defense for Ruby, he said. Adelson also added that
he (Adelson) had extensive conversations with West about Jack’s paranoia,
both in Dallas and Detroit.

The select committee issued a controversial report concluding that President
Kennedy had been killed by a conspiracy involving more than one person.

Adelson died around 1986 at the age of 55. Dr. West passed away in January
of 1999 at his home in Los Angeles, reportedly of cancer, at the age of 74
shortly after stories surfaced on the web about his visits to McVeigh.

What would Ruby have said to Earl Warren in a one on one? We will never know.

Another government coverup waiting to unravel, which could be triggered by
records at the Bureau of Prisons, covers a litany of names familiar to
researchers of CIA involvement in drug and arms smuggling.

Carlos Lehder (Rivas), a cofounder of the Medellin drug cartel in Columbia,
was tried in the U.S. and sentenced to life plus 135 years in prison. In
return for his "key" testimony against former Panamanian dictator (and CIA
asset) Manuel Noriega, Lehder’s sentence was reduced to fifty-five years,
reportedly wi

[CTRL] WASHINGTON, E.T. UPDATES - "Lara Johnstone & Her "Bush/ET Disclosure Request"

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WASHINGTON, E.T. UPDATES
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"Lara Johnstone & Her "Bush/ET Disclosure Request & Hunger Strike"

"Are you ready for the revolution?" by Grant Cameron
"Bush/UFO Disclosure Request Update" by Lara Johnstone
"Hunger Strike to Support Extraterrestrial Disclosure - Day 16"
  by Grant Cameron

Full story at: http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews33.html

Extraterrestrial Politics in The Clinton White House (1993 - 2001)
by Grant Cameron

Full story at: http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews32.html

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Re: [CTRL] Spy Secrets of the CIA

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   Yes, that is the place I remember Gary Powers last flight for the CIA
taking off. Lots of mis and dis information out there so I'm not sure what
is true.

   Jim

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<< On May 1, 1960, U.S. pilot Francis Gary Powers took off from an air base
in
 Pakistan in his high-flying U-2B spy plane on a mission that would have
 carried him across nearly 3,000 miles of the Soviet Union to a landing in
 Norway. He never got there. Downed by a Soviet missile, he was captured and
 convicted on spying charges by a Soviet court. >>

Can anyone confirm this Pakistan thing.  I'm pretty certain that Powers took
off from Incirlik AB in Turkey.  This is very curious.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] New Hampshire women to file suit against Jehovah's Witnesses

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Dear List,

Below please find information on this article.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick




New Hampshire women to file suit against Jehovah's Witnesses - By Harry R.
Weber, Associated Press, Portsmouth Herald - CONCORD, N.H. -- In a challenge
to the Jehovah's Witnesses belief in shunning secular authority, two young
New Hampshire women have accused the order of concealing their sexual abuse
allegations.
A suit expected to be filed Wednesday in Hillsborough County Superior Court
names as defendants the abuser, the Wilton congregation where they belonged
and the religious order's governing body in New York City.

excerpt from http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/8_7special2.htm

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[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: August 12, 2001

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CONGRESS ACTION: August 12, 2001

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FEDERAL ELECTION REFORM: On August 1 the National Commission on Federal
Election Reform issued its report, To Assure Pride and Confidence in the
Electoral Process. The Commission issued thirteen Policy Recommendations
because "Americans can and should expect their electoral system to be a
source of national pride and a model to all the world." The recommendations
are voluntary, but that approach was not good enough for some of the
commissioners. One of them, Christopher Edley, wrote a Washington Post
editorial dissenting from the voluntary approach, claiming that "certain
reforms are fundamental enough to stand on their own as nationwide
requirements that all states should abide by" (emphasis added). The irony of
demanding the use of force, mandates from a heavy-handed federal government
to enhance public confidence in the electoral process, apparently escaped
Edley.

What are the specific steps recommended by the National Commission, to "fix"
future elections? Some of the Policy Recommendations (PR) are simple common
sense, but many will make matters worse, will result in even more confused
and contested elections, and many seem intentionally designed to increase
vote fraud. Take, for example, PR # One, "Every state should adopt a system
of statewide voter registration." Specifically, the Motor Voter technique of
registering anyone and everyone should be computerized with various personal
data, and should be available to every election jurisdiction. Those
registering should be asked "if they are registered in another state, so that
that state can be notified of the new registration." Fair enough. But there
is no provision for that voter's previous state of residence to then
immediately purge their voter rolls of that voter. The Commission, even
though acknowledging the existence of "significantly inaccurate voter lists",
specifically refused to ease Motor Voter's strict procedures to enhance the
ability of states to purge inaccurate voter rolls of the deceased, the newly
disqualified, or felons. On the contrary, PR # Five says that "Each state
should allow for restoration of otherwise eligible citizens who have been
convicted of a felony once they have fully served their sentence, including
any term of probation or parole." Further, the Commission proposes (PR # Two)
a system of "provisional voting by any voter who claims to be qualified to
vote in that state", with those votes to be counted later "upon verification
by election officials that the provisional voter is eligible and qualified to
vote" -- following, no doubt, an avalanche of lawsuits over the
qualifications of each and every "provisional" ballot.


Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution states, "The Times,
Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives,
shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the
Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.". So federal
power to override state law does exist. But as Alexander Hamilton wrote in
Federalist # 59, the power to regulate elections is "in the first instance,
to the local administrations... but [the Constitutional Convention has]
reserved to the national authority a right to interpose, whenever
extraordinary circumstances might render that interposition necessary to its
safety." Extraordinary circumstances, such as the chance that states might
"annihilate [the national government] by neglecting to provide for the choice
of persons to administer its affairs." Interestingly, Hamilton went on to
postulate, "Suppose an article had been introduced into the Constitution
empowering the United States to regulate the elections for the particular
States, would any man have hesitated to condemn it, both as an unwarrantable
transposition of power and as a premeditated engine for the destruction of
the State governments?" Isn't that precisely what the National Commission on
Federal Election Reform has proposed -- what at least one commissioner wants
to mandate -- the creation of broad-ranging powers for "the United States to
regulate the elections for the particular States"? And along with that power,
the commissioners recommend (PR # Twelve) the creation of a brand new federal
bureaucracy called the "Election Administration Commission", to develop and
oversee the implementation of "federal voting system standards". Thus in one
more area, federalism is to be overridden, and state laws are to fall before
the all-consuming federal leviathan.

LEFT-WING CENSORS: When the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights issues its final
report on the presidential election, don't be fooled into thinking that the
Commission's conclusions were unanimous. Two commissioners strongly dissented
from the Commission's findings, but that dissent cannot be found in the
report posted on the Commission's website. It appears that those who run the
Civil Rights Commission have a very narrow vie

Re: [CTRL] conference tapes for the 2001 ritual abuse - mind control conference

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Hi !

Please write me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

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Tape Order Form for The Fourth Annual Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations
and Mind Control Conference - 2001

Some of the topics discussed on these tapes may be very triggering. These
tapes are educational and not intended as therapy or treatment.  Statements
made on these tapes are the speaker's own statements only and don't
necessarily  represent the policies or views of conference sponsors,
cosponsor, speakers, exhibitors or organizers.  Speaker descriptions will
follow ordering information.

1 - Neil Brick   - His most recent memories and his personal growth.

2. Carol Rutz - My story intertwined with documentation

3. Cheryl Hersha - Secret Weapons and Ritual Abuse.

4. Judith Remet,  Pat Wrightsman -  A Safe Place for Survivors.

5 - Hal Pepinsky - Making Peace in the Face of Fear

6. - deJoly LaBrier - Questions I Have Answered.

7. - Annie McKenna - Shattering the Myths--Deprogramming with System
Communication

8. - Mary Jo Schneller- A Journey Towards Wholeness - Learning to Trust Again

9 - Katherine Sullivan - Memory Recovery and Screen Memories.

Tapes are 60 minutes long.  Tapes are $7 each. Shipping and Handling charges
on tapes are $1.50 (US) for the first tape, .50 for each additional. Canada
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descriptions may be triggering. Please use caution while reading.

Neil Brick  is a survivor of alleged Masonic Ritual Abuse and MK-ULTRA. He is
the editor of S.M.A.R.T. - A Ritual Abuse Newsletter. He has published
numerous articles on ritual abuse. He will talk about his most recent
memories and his personal growth.

Cheryl Hersha (co-author of  "Secret Weapons: Two Sisters' Terrifying True
Story of Sex, Spies and Sabotage,") is a 40 yr. old RN, wife and mother of
three. She has been a part of the survivor community for the past five years,
sharing her story and healing path with others by drawing and writing for
such organizations as ACHES - MC, SMART and Survivorship. Her topic is :
Secret Weapons and Ritual Abuse.

deJoly LaBrier is a survivor of a military sex ring, satanic ritual abuse,
and mind control. She has written two books, "Diary of a Survivor in Art and
Poetry," and "DISCONNECT, Understanding and Living With Multiple Personality
Disorder. deJoly has helped others in their healing process by speaking out
across the country. She can be reached at http://www.dejoly.com Her topic is:
"Questions I Have Answered."

Annie McKenna is an alleged survivor of Project Monarch, a government mind
control program involving the military, various intelligence agencies, and
the Nazi's ushered into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip and wrote
"Paperclip Dolls." She has an article in  the 12/00 issue of Media Bypass.
She owes her rapid healing and integration process to a strong cooperative
system and scrapbook therapy. Her topic is  "Shattering the
Myths--Deprogramming with System Communication."

Hal Pepinsky teaches criminal justice at Indiana University, Bloomington.
Last year on leave, he taught sociology classes at Iowa State University.  He
learns from and brings ra/mc survivors to his classes.  His special
"empirical" interest is in violence against children--how the violence
happens, how victims and adults around them, as in the legal system, respond.
 Hal will talk about "Making Peace in the Face of Fear."

Judith Remet, M.B., B.Ch., B.A.O. worked for 25 years as a clinical
psychiatrist.  A few years ago, she ended her practice and now focuses on
writing, teaching, and consultation.  She has presented several conferences
and workshops on trauma-related topics Pat Wrightsman, M.S. R.N. has been a
registered nurse for 30 years. She has worked with traumat

[CTRL] 13 August 2001 Federalist Edition #01-33

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GOOD NEWS

"He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases
fantasies lacks judgment." (Proverbs 12:11)  ++  "Do not judge, or you
too will be judged.  For in the same way you judge others, you will be
judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
(Matthew 7:1)  ++  "You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do
not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched,
pitiful, poor, blind and naked." (Revelation 3:17)  ++  "Be wise in
the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity."
(Colossians 4:5)  ++  "The wise in heart accept commands, but a
chattering fool comes to ruin." ( Proverbs 10:8)  ++  "Greater love
has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
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"Some there are who presume so far on their wits that they think
themselves capable of measuring the whole nature of things by their
intellect, in that they esteem all things true which they see, and
false which they see not.  Accordingly, in order that man's mind might
be freed from this presumption, and seek the truth humbly, it was
necessary that certain things far surpassing his intellect should be
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"A new report out from the Minority Staff on the House Government
Reform Committee finds that 35 percent of nursing homes in the U.S.
(5,926 facilities) have been cited for more than 10,000 instances of
abuse in the period from January 1999 to January 2001. Of these, it is
alleged, more than 1,500 cases were serious enough to cause harm or to
place the lives of residents in danger. Instances of elder abuse are
on the rise and, sadly, all too predictable  in a post-Roe culture
that has devalued human life. Liberal Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) is
suggesting that the solution is to pour more money into the nursing
home industry. Nothing could be further from the truth. The industry
has a sad history of fraud and abuse. The solution is to reclaim
respect for life at all stages of development -- at the beginning of
life, at its close, and in between. We must also create additional
options for families with elders, including more home and
community-based solutions, such as in-home care, adult day care,
respite care, and hospice care. Nursing homes should be a last resort,
not a first response. Institutionalization of the elderly is a failed
experiment. By the way, where are the 'law and order conservatives' on
this one? Shouldn't we be putting nursing home personnel who abuse our
frail elderly in prison?" --Ken Connor


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"To rush in now and establish research practices that deny the sacred
value Western civilization has always placed on human life is to head
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century welcomed. Imagine the Nazi

[CTRL] AF News 14 Aug 01 Part 2

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1103.  Flight test center winning civilian engineer recruiting battle

by Leigh Anne Bierstine
Air Force Flight Test Center Public Affairs

EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFPN) -- Last year a team of engineers at
the Air Force Flight Test Center here began working on a solution to a
challenging yet different kind of equation.  Many of their co-workers were
leaving civil service, but their positions were increasingly going unfilled.
Today, the team is seeing evidence that its actions are making a difference.

In the first months of 2000 the attrition rate of the center's experienced
electrical engineers was more than 20 percent annually -- an all time high.
The needs of the center's avionics division skyrocketed from an average of
20 engineers to more than 50.

"At this rate, we had to ask 'where are we going to be 10 years from now and
what is the impact to our country?'" said Paul Tierney, chief of the
avionics systems integration division here.

Realizing that engineers alone were not going to find the solution, Tierney
established the Engineering Careers Roundtable to gain expertise across
organizational lines.  Working with civilian personnel, information
technology and public affairs experts, the group began making unprecedented
changes in the way the center recruited new engineers.

The roundtable laid the groundwork to re-establish the center's recruitment
office. Today, the office has three full-time personnel experts headed by
Jan Taylor of civilian personnel here.

Taylor and Tierney said they agree the payoffs are tremendous.

"Two years ago we were in a negative slide and losing people faster than we
could bring them in," Tierney said.  "Now, we are learning to successfully
manage our attrition rate."

However, Edwards and the Air Force are not the only institutions with high
attrition rates, Tierney said.  The difference is that in the past private
industry had been better at managing its attrition rates.  With changes in
place, the center now has a better grip on balancing its attrition rate with
its hiring rate. Today the center's attrition rate is met with an aggressive
20 percent hiring rate.

Highlighting the roundtable's marketing efforts is the careers@edwards Web
site at http://careers.edwards.af.mil/, which advertises Edwards' vacancies
internet-wide.  The state-of-the-art interactive site helps candidates learn
about the mission here and makes it easy for them to submit a resume.

With Tierney's guidance, the group was responsible for arranging first-ever
recruitment bonuses, college loan retention allowance reimbursements, moving
expenses for first-time employment candidates and competitive salaries
through effective use of the Personnel Acquisition Demonstration Project.

In addition, invitational orders are being brought back to life to bring the
most highly qualified candidates to Edwards for first-hand looks at test and
evaluation facilities.

Since the roundtable's efforts began, Tierney said many employees from
across the base have volunteered to help with the recruiting effort.  He
also found several engineers who were new to the center were more than happy
to volunteer their expertise.

Andrew Stryker, a flight test engineer with the 412th Test Wing here, had
been out of college for about two years when Tierney asked for his advice.

"I remembered what it was like to apply for a job," Stryker said.  "I knew
that a cumbersome application and hiring process would deter new college
graduates from applying to the center."

Stryker assisted his colleagues Steve Martin and Mike Bonner, both flight
test engineers at the 412th Test Wing, in designing the concept for the
Edwards career Web site.  Their mission was to help bring the center's
career Web site in-line with industry recruiting tactics.

"Today on our site, those interested in career opportunities at Edwards can
find information -- not just words," Stryker said.

The roundtable is building on its recruiting successes by moving ahead to
the retention phase of the effort. The acquisition demonstration project is
helping in this arena by steadily pushing salaries at the center closer to
those found in the private sector. However, retention is not all about
money.

"Too often when a new person comes in we use the four-inch fire hose
treatment," Tierney said.  "Even after six months a new person is still
struggling to understand the mission."

The Avionics Division is developing training programs that show new
engineers where they fit into the mission and how they will contribute.

"We are trying to get through to our new people in the early stages and tell
them what is exciting about workin1g at Edwards," Tierney said.  "We want to
bring recruiting and retention back to where they were 15 years ago when
people said 'wow, that's the place I want to be.'"



1102.  Equipment transfer aids university research

by Rex Swenson
Air For

[CTRL] AF News 14 Aug 01 Part 1

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1107.  Air Force doctrine burrows into Army posts

by Staff Sgt. Jason Tudor
Air Force Print News

MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. -- Air Force doctrine is burrowing into the
Army officer corps, transforming the way airmen and soldiers do business
together in a joint environment.

Teaching more than 7,500 students each year, Air Force officers at operating
locations on Army training posts across the United States evangelize the Air
Force way to every level of the Army's officer corps.  The greenest
lieutenant and the most senior brigade commander receive briefings on
everything from what a C-130 Hercules looks like to how aerospace power can
help them conduct land-based operations for the joint force commander.

Ingraining Air Force blue into Army green has been done for as long as there
has been a separate service.  The difference now?  Air Force instructors get
the opportunity to weave operational doctrine into their teachings,
cementing the vital role air power has in the joint warfighting arena.

Classes are taught at Fort Rucker, Ala. (Army Aviation), Fort Knox, Ky.
(Armor), Fort Sill, Okla. (field artillery), Fort Bliss, Texas (air defense
artillery), and Fort Leavenworth, Kansas (combined arms).

Lt. Col. Sonny Arvin preaches the Air Force gospel at the Army Armor Center
at Fort Knox.  He speaks to between 750 and 800 students every year, talking
about Air Force missions to include air interdiction and close air support.
He teaches at the Army Career Captains Courses (junior grade officers) and
the Pre-Command Courses (field grade and senior officers).

Arvin is no stranger to the Army.  He was the 19th Air Support Operations
Squadron commander with the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky.,
for a time, and he is intimate with Army operations and the service's
working mindset. During his tenure at Fort Knox, Arvin said he has learned
even more about how the two services work together.

"There's some different thinking and some different ways of working," he
said. "We're all after the same objective though."

That objective is working together to win a war.  Arvin said doing that
means approaching the fight from two very different perspectives.
Traditionally, the Air Force supports the joint force commander by helping
the Army in a number of ways such as providing reconnaissance (satellite
imagery), close air support (A-10 Thunderbolt IIs engaging the enemy in
close proximity to friendly troops) and other airborne mission areas.

"There's the soldier's perspective, on the ground viewing the battlefield
through its width and depth, and the airmen's perspective, seeing the
battlefield in a three-dimensional manner," he said.  "We go in and show
them the Air Force way of doing business according to our doctrine and how
we support the joint force commander during contingencies."

The development, Arvin said, is evolutionary.

"When we get them as lieutenants, we set the stage," he said.  "By the time
they become captains, there's a greater interest and, finally, as brigade
commanders, there's a tremendous interest in seeing what aerospace power can
bring to the fight."

Lt. Col. Al Jones reaches more than 5,000 students each year at Fort Rucker,
the home of Army aviation.  They ask many of the same questions about what
the Air Force can provide during battle, but many of the questions are about
close air support, helping soldiers win their fight in the mud.

However, sometimes the classroom atmosphere -- composed primarily of warrant
officers, new and old -- can grow tense when Jones suggests there are other
options for close air support when there just isn't enough to go around.

"They're all concerned about close air support," Jones said.  "When we're
unable to provide it at times, we tell them 'look, we're not mad at you and
didn't supply CAS because we were off playing golf. There's only so much to
go around.'"

Jones goes on to explain there are other options and ways to meet the
mission needs, more effects-based solutions to the situation instead of just
supplying close air support -- all revolving around the latest doctrine the
Air Force is employing at an operational level.

But while all the academic advice about global attack, joint warfare and Air
Force methods sets the table, Jones said many of the issues he discusses are
more fundamental.

"On a lot of levels, what I'm trying to teach is that we are not the enemy,"
he said.  "We're a joint force and we're not going to go to war without
you."

Both Arvin and Jones agree the development of a joint fighting force is the
path to future operations.  Having Air Force officers available to teach
best practices to their counterparts in green is one way to accomplish that.

"It's working," Arvin said. "Everybody believes that we ultimately have to
come together to fight jointly.  If we can come together on certain things,
we'll fight and work bett

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Week Ending: 11 August 2001/22 Av 5761

"But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the L-rd; I will wait for
the G-d of my salvation. My G-d will hear me. Do not rejoice over me, O
my enemy. Though I fall I will rise; Though I dwell in darkness, the
L-rd is a light for me." Micah 7.7-8




Highlights Of This Week:

:: ISLAMIC SLAUGHTER IN JERUSALEM
:: SHARON: 'WE ARE EXERCISING OUR SOVEREIGNTY OVER JERUSALEM'
:: EGYPTIAN ARMED FORCES TO AID ARAFAT
:: THE PA/PLO REVOLVING DOOR
:: SETTLEMENT SITE OF THE WEEK
:: HEBRON OBSERVERS AIDED TANZIM
:: ALIYAH CONTINUES DESPITE TERRORISM
:: ANCIENT SYNAGOGUES REVEAL BUSTLING JEWISH LIFE IN GOLAN
:: LEBANESE CHRISTIANS BEING BOMBED, JAILED
:: UN CONTINUES TO MISLEAD ISRAEL
:: THE OSLO AGREEMENTS: 'THE BIG SCAM'
:: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
:: MEMORABLE QUOTES
:: THE MACCABEAN ONLINE


:: ISLAMIC SLAUGHTER IN JERUSALEM: An Islamic Arab suicide bomber
entered the Sbarro Restaurant in the center of Jerusalem Friday,
positioned himself in the center of the crowd, and within seconds
detonated a powerful charge leaving 16 persons dead, and over 100
injured. Among the wounded were small children and babies. The names of
those murdered are: Michal Raziel, 15, from Ramot; Tehila Maoz, 20, from
Jerusalem; Mordecai, 43 and Tzira, 41 Sichsord, from Moshav Talmon and
three of their children, Raya, 14, Avraham Yitzhak, 4 and Hemdah, 2;
Frida Mendelssohn, 62, from Jerusalem; Zvika Golombag, 26, from Carmiel;
Lily Shamilashvili, 33, and her daughter Tamar, 8; Giora Balash, 60, a
Brazilian tourist; Judith Lillian Greenbaum, 30, an American tourist
from Los Angeles; Yocheved Shoshan, 10, from Har Nof, Jerusalem; Malka
Roth, 15, Ramot; and Malka Roth, 16 years old, a resident of Jerusalem.
Initially, Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the murders. But
later, Hamas took credit. Friday, it was disclosed that the man named by
Islamic Jihad was found at his house. The PA/PLO had been given specific
details on the Hamas handlers of the Sbarro bomber, so that if Arafat
had taken action, the bombing likely would not have taken place.


:: SHARON: "WE ARE EXERCISING OUR SOVEREIGNTY OVER JERUSALEM": While the
IDF [Israel Defense Force] engaged in some retaliatory measures Thursday
night, the most significant steps taken by the Government of Israel were
in the political realm: Israel closed the headquarters of the
Palestinian Authority [PA/PLO] in Jerusalem known as the Orient House.
Overnight, Police and IDF forces entered the building and unfurled an
Israeli flag over the structure in place of the PLO one. All computers,
documents, and files in the building were confiscated. In addition, IDF
forces took control of the governor's house compound and houses close
by, in the Abu Dis neighborhood in East Jerusalem. These houses are
mostly used as headquarters of the PA/PLO security services which
include: Force 17, the General Intelligence, the Preventive Security,
the Military Intelligence, the Political Guidance (responsible for
military and political propaganda) and the Palestinian Police. These
services are functioning illegally and in contrast to the agreements,
since the area was declared a B+ area, with the implementation of the
Hebron Accord. Abu Dis is defined as a B+ area, under Israeli security
control, and the Oslo accords do not permit the Palestinians to maintain
activity by the security services in areas under Israeli security
authority.

In response, the Palestinian leaders of the Oslo War vowed Saturday to
bring the war to Jerusalem. The nations of the world also denounced the
move by Israel.

The US State Department referred to Israeli's swift response as a
"serious political escalation" of the conflict. Russian Foreign Minister
Igor Ivanov said that the violence jeopardized security across the
world. France denounced Israel's seizure of the PLO office as contrary
to previous peace agreements with the Palestinians. The United Arab
Emirates expressed Arab anger and pessimism, describing Israeli
retaliation as "the death of the peace accords" while Jordan said Israel
should withdraw is forces from the PLO offices. Egypt also demanded the
reopening of Orient House, the PLO's unofficial office in East
Jerusalem, condemning the closure as a "screaming violation" of
international law.


:: EGYPTIAN ARMED FORCES TO AID ARAFAT: The threat of a wider Middle
East conflict is growing as the Egyptian government considers sending
its 3rd Armored Army into the Sinai peninsula if Israel moves into
Palestinian territories. In recent weeks Egypt has come under increased
pressure from the Palestinians to help them. The Sinai option was
confirmed by a senior Egyptian security source, who said the Israelis
had to be deterred from "destroying" 

[CTRL] US media ignores Israeli atrocities

[flw]

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EDWARD SAID, OBSERVER, LONDON:
http://www.observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,535674,00.html

In the United States, where Israel has its main political base and from which
it has received more than $92 billion in aid since 1967, the terrible human cost of  
Jerusalem restaurant
bombing settles quickly into a familiar explanatory framework.

Arafat hasn't done enough to control his terrorists; suicidal Islamic extremists
are to be found everywhere, driven by sheer human hatred; Israel must defend
its security . . . In America Israel has pretty much won the propaganda war, and
America is where it is about to put several more million dollars into a
public relations campaign (using such stars as Zubin Mehta, Yitzhak Pearlman
and Amos Oz) to further improve its image.

But consider what Israel's unrelenting war against the undefended,
basically unarmed, stateless and poorly led Palestinian people has
already achieved. The disparity in power is so vast that it makes you cry.
Equipped with the latest in American-built air power, helicopter gun hips,
uncountable tanks and missiles, and a superb navy as well as a state of
the art intelligence service, Israel is a nuclear power abusing a people
without any armor or artillery, no air force - its one pathetic airfield in Gaza is 
controlled by Israel - or
navy or army air defenses, none of the institutions of
a modern state. The appallingly, unbroken history of Israel's 34-year-old
military occupation (the second longest in modern history) of illegally conquered

Palestinian land has been obliterated from public memory, as has been the
destruction of Palestinian society in 1948 and the expulsion of 68 per cent of i
ts native people, of whom 4.5 million remain refugees today. Behind the reams
of newspeak, the stark outlines of Israel's decades-long daily pressure on a
people whose main sin is that they happened to be there, in Israel's way, is 
staggeringly perceptible in its
inhuman sadism.

The cruel confinement of 1.3 million people jammed into the Gaza strip, plus
the plight of the nearly two million Palestinian residents of the West Bank have
no parallels in the annals of apartheid or colonialism. F-16 warplanes never
bombed South African homelands. They are used against Palestinian towns
and villages . . . Since the latest intifada began late last September, 609
Palestinians have been killed - four times the number of Israelis - and 15,000 
wounded, a dozen times more
than on the other side.

Regular Israeli army assassinations have picked off alleged terrorists at will,
mostly killing innocent people like so many flies. Last week 14 Palestinians
were murdered openly by Israeli forces, and thus 'prevented' from killing
Israelis, although at least two children and five innocents were also murdered.

Nameless and faceless, Israel's daily Palestinian victims barely rate a mention
on America's news.

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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Statement by Condit regarding the Modesto Bee editorial

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>Hells Angels if this be true he rode with them, introduced into this
>stylish group by his chauffer the Angels run drugs,

Yes, but they rarely USE drugs, other than to smoke the occasional joint or
snort an occasional line of cocaine...

They may gladly provide drugs to addicts, but don't tolerate hardcore
addicts amongst their own ranks...

If Condit does drugs, I suspect it's probably a combination of weed, cocaine
 and Ecstacy, rather than hardcore stuff like heroin


>Further the security camera tapes? Why bother to have them if you do
>not save the tapes for at least a six month period or even up to a year
>- why bother?

Having worked as a security guard in the past, I can answer that question
with some degree of knowledge...

You're lucky they even have the ability to tape...most places just go with
the video camera, and think the security guard never takes his or her eyes
off of the monitor for the whole 8-hour shift...

The reason the tapes aren't held longer is due to lack of funds...most
clients don't want to pay for 60-days worth of tape (tapes capable of
holding 24-hour's worth of monitoring are quite expensive).  The only reason
they do the taping anyway is more a "CYA" on the owner's part, and not
particularly for the benefit of the residents of the facility.  The tape is
there so that if someone come to Security and says "When I left to go to
work this morning, I found that my car had been vandalized..."

The tape is available for playback to see if any suspects are shown; if they
are, then the tape is saved for the police; if not, then the tape is
recycled.  The usual recycle schedule is 7 days...so last Thursday's tape
will be recorded over when the tape is recycled this coming Thursday.  The
thought is that if nothing is reported within 7 days, then it's the fault of
the people to whom something occured for not reporting it right away...

Of course, this puts tenants of the building who may have been away on a
2-week vacation at a disadvantage if their apartment was broken into and
they were robbed 2 days after they left on their trip...

In the case of Chandra Levy, though, her parents called the landlord that
Friday, expressing their concerns regarding their daughter...the landlord
may have begged off actually entering the apartment due to whatever laws
there may be in DC regulating when landlords can enter apartments of their
tenants (but it seems to me that in any jurisdiction a landlord has the
right to enter in emergency situations)...but there is no excuse for not
pulling the security tapes from Sunday thru Friday and playing them back to
see what they showed...

And indeed, when the story first broke, it was said that the security tapes
showed nothing...not that they were recorded over before anyone took a look
at them.  I find it real hard to believe that the landlord did not take a
look at the tapes for the previous week immediately after the Levy's
phonecall to him alerting him that they thought something had happened to
their daughter...


>Did Chandra have any laundry facilities in her own
>apartment or did she share in a laundry room - did she have any storage
>areas and when were dumpsters emptied?

Good questions.  Usually in such apartments there are not laundry facilities
in each apartment, usually there are either absolutely NO laundry facilities
on the premise, and the tenants have to go to a commercial laundromat or
cleaners, or sneak an 'illegal' washing machine into their apartment.  A
second common set up is to have one central laundry facility, either on the
ground floor or in the basement, if there is one.  Occasionally one finds
higher-scale buildings with laundry rooms on each floor, but again it is a
public' facility in that all tenants on that floor use it.

Rarely do apartment complexes allow individual tenants to have a washing
machine in their apartment, especially if the tenant doesn't have to pay for
hot water on their own, but instead has it included in the rent.  Even if
the tenant pays for their own hot water, most landlords would rather not
have to risk damage to the apartment (and possibly the one below it) if
something went wrong with the washing machine and it overflowed...and then
there's the issue of clothes dryers...

In a city apartment complex such as Levy lived in, there wouldn't have been
the option to hang wet clothes outside to dry...a clothes dryer would be a
necessity if one used a washing machine...

And most landlords don't want to go to the expense of building a clothes
dryer venting system for each apartment...and if there isn't one, it's a
fire hazard to operate a clothes dryer in such a manner.  So that is all the
more reason that if they DO allow laundry to be done on the premises, that
landlords design a central laundry facility rather than allow tenants to do
laundry in their own apartments...


June
;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Isaeli's Poisoned Water? Now A shortage and water asweapon?

[Nurev Ind.]

-Caveat Lector-

thew wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> i love aliehas confusion here
>
> shes confounded by the fact that jews are not a monolithic block who all
> think alike controlled from some central mastermind.
>
> i cant erase any of her stuff
>
> its the most fascinating look into the twisted mind i have ever seen in such
> detail
> 
> 
> "It is not the function of our government to keep the
> citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen
> to keep the government from falling into error." Justice
> Robert H. Jackson--
>
> NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew
>
> > From: Aleisha Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:30:15 -0400
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [CTRL] Isaeli's Poisoned Water?   Now A shortage and water as weapon?
> >
> > http://www.ukar.org/jewsnot1.shtml

This is a racist anti-semitc web site which uses Jewsnot to make some points.
I have informed this group before, that Jewsnot has about the same standing
in the Jewish community, as Jews for Jesus has in the Christian community.

NONE.

German Nazi SS were shocked at the ferocious behavior of the Ukrainians under
their command. The Germans were not easily impressed with bestial behavior.
The Ukrainians and the Croats made that kind of impression on the Germans.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

[Nurev Ind.]

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thew wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> the so called settlers are basically fanatics, who are trying to bring about
> WW3 and have no sense of compromise, or sanity.
>
> The religious parties hold way too much power in Israel, considering the
> size of the community they actually represent. this is one of the big
> problems of parliamentary democracy, small groups gain large power in
> coalition governments, and can press an unpopular agenda. Its a flawed
> democracy indeed, but its not supposed to be a theocratic one. Much like the
> way the Christian right hijacked politics in America, these ultra religious
> have hijacked the politics of Israel. no question about it.
>
> while we are the topic... any Arab democracies in the region?
>
It depends what you mean by " Arab." Apparently there are no known definitions
for " Arab " when you try to link that word with " democracy " according to
Prudy.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists

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-Caveat Lector-

Aleisha Saba wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> One thing I do not forget, Prince Faisal (Turki, now heading up Arab
> Intelligence in USA) told us,  there were 4 of us at the table, that the
> domestic jews and moslems and christians could live in peace but the
> Zionists would not let themhis father had aa that time said He Hated
> Zionists - and Rockefeller cancelled his New York Dinner and in
> Columbus, Ohio the Mayor there chickened out but we had our dinner and a
> wonderful day.
>
> He was a handsome young gentleman and would have been the King had not a
> black from Berkley later murdered his father..
>
> The fact remains there is something rotten in Israel and they sent in a
> butcher like Jack the Ripper and a slaughterman, to finish up the
> job
>
> What is that in the bible - Barber get your razor and slaughterman get
> your weapon..keep thinking of the Zionists Psalm and rase it, rase
> it, and rase it and happy they will be when they dash the heads of
> little babies against the stones.
>
> Now if that is religion - and someone does follow this bible code taking
> names from the bible and timing their murders to same - well it is about
> time the Americans realized that had it not been for the Arabs we would
> be living in darkness and riding in horse and buggies.
>
> Somehow the things you say do not ring truestrange most jews I know
> keep very careful family records and as myself, can trace their family
> trees right back to the bible  when you are in the royal lines.
>
> 55 Million People died in that war - and hey, what about the Irish - you
> want real heros the Fitzgeralds were legendary but they were also
> slaughtered and their "names blotted out of the book".yet John
> FITZGERALD Kennedy got a chunk of Runymead..and one of OUR ancestors
> signed the great Magna Carta and you ought to read that sometime.
>
> Religion is to me the biggest line of crap and murder in the world, when
> in the wrong handsand I think in the hands of the Zionists, it is
> used for genocide and mass murder
>
> 55 million people died...as did my father and many friends in WWII and I
> am so sick of this crap where kids are being taught of just the 6
> million, like the 600?
>
> There is not to question why - there is but to do or die - like hell.
> I have a lot of unanswered questions and I know now why J Edgar Hoover
> took on the communists rather than the Mafia for all the time, he knew
> the Mafia, was not Italian
>
> Saba
>
> No right to return without pedigree - right?   Is this why so many names
> now are taken from the bible?   Strange, the name Lazaras is in the New
> Testament - yet, the Lazaras family are CFR Zionists (Fred at least of
> Federated Chain).
>
> Tell me were any Zionists genocided by Hitler?
> But then they are just a handful of people while Moslems represent one
> fifth of the population in the world.
>
> Saba

I hope that you do understand THEW that this person is psychotic, and how
rationally she comes across depends on whether she has taken her meds.

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Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

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flw wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >
> > I agree that the theocratic state is archaic anathema
> >
> > can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
> > define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
> > Muslims, than Muslims?
> >
> > as I stated last time I asked this unanswered question, I dont know any
> > Israelis, who dont want a multicultural state.

Israel IS a multicultural state. There are Jews and non Jews from many
cultures. All this within the framework of being a Jewish state. This does
not necessarily mean a theocracy because the vast majority of Israelis are
secular Jews.

>
> I think you miss the basic point. Israel holds itself out as the sole "democratic"
> state in the Middle East. That is often the justification provided why the US
> has a special obligation to Israel...why it sends Israel the bulk of its foreign
> aid, etc.
>
> A theocratic state is incompatible with a democratic state.

This is true, and proof positive that it is not a theocratic state as are
a good number of the Arab states the US sends money to also. Israel is
and was designed to be a democracy for Jews.

> You may not personally know any Israelis who don't want a multicultural
> state, but you are clueless if you are not aware that a significant segment of
> Israeli society is opposed to a multicultural state and insist on a theocratically
> "pure" state.

You don't know what the fuck your talking about do you? How did you come to this
conclusion pray tell? Do you just make up shit like Cooper's stats?

> If you poll most of the so called "settlers" on that issue you will
> quickly learn that they are absolutely opposed to a multicultural state and if
> they had their way would deport all non Jews from Israel - or at the very least
> would deny them citizenship (after all, they still need cheap labor).
> flw

This is probably true. But the settlers are not the same as the general Israeli
population. They are a VERY distinct minority as well as a source of
disapproval for many Israelis.

The settlers are a pawn in the game. If the Palestinians keep this shit up,
the settlers will win because they will get to stay on their newly stolen
lands. If the Palestinians finally get smart, the settlers will be forced out
of the homes they risked their lives for by Israel.

Not very complicated really.

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Re: [CTRL] Something Rotten In The State Of Israel j2

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:
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> In a message dated 08/08/2001 10:57:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> << Main Entry:Ar·ab
>  Pronunciation:'ar-&b, 'er-; dial also 'A-"rab
>  Function:noun
>  Etymology:Middle English, from Latin Arabus, Arabs, from Greek Arab-,
>  Araps
>  Date:14th century
>  1 a : a member of the Semitic people of the Arabian peninsula b : a member
>  of an Arabic-speaking people >>
>
> Oh goody, now tell me which country you want to discuss.  Prudy

ANY ONE WHICH PRACTICES DEMOCRACY AND/OR MULTICULTURALIUSM. Jeez! Isn't
this what we've been talking about all this time?

What's with you? Are getting senile like Colleen?

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[CTRL] NM: Did the OIC Obstruct Justice?

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Newsmax-August 13, 2001

Did the OIC Obstruct Justice?

By Reed Irvine


The question of whether the Office of Independent Counsel (OIC) under
Kenneth Starr and his successor, Robert Ray, has obstructed justice is
scheduled to be argued in the district court in Washington, D.C., on August
16. Accuracy in Media, Inc., which I head, has successfully sued the OIC
under the Freedom of Information Act for the release of documents relating
to the investigation of the death of the former White House Counsel,
Vincent W. Foster Jr. The OIC has failed to deliver many important
documents, claiming they cannot be found. AIM's attorney will argue that if
these documents cannot be found, it is because they have been removed or
destroyed in violation of federal laws.

These include documents that were turned over to Starr by his predecessor,
Robert B. Fiske Jr. Redacted copies of most of the interview reports (302s)
by FBI agents working for Fiske were submitted to the Senate Banking
Committee, which conducted its own investigation into Foster's death. They
were published in a thick volume that was released to the public in 1995,
but some were held back. One is believed to be the FBI's report of an
interview of Rose Procopio, a CNN employee who was in the White House
making up President Clinton for his appearance on "Larry King Live" on the
night of July 20, 1993, the day Foster was found dead.

Miss Procopio is said to have told FBI agents who interviewed her that
while she was making up the president in the Map Room, a man came in and
informed him that something had been found in Foster's office. This
incident would have occurred at least 15 minutes before the "Larry King
Show" was to begin at 9:00 p.m. It was treated as a state secret for a very
good reason. The president claimed that he was not informed of Foster's
death until after 10:00 p.m., when the "Larry King Show" ended.

In fact, toward the end of the show he had even told Larry King that he
would be willing to continue the interview for an extra half-hour, and
Larry King had informed the audience of the president's generous offer.

That offer was retracted during the next commercial break. The president
told King that he had been reminded that he had another engagement. But the
airing of the offer served an important purpose. Bill Clinton had sent a
message to the millions of viewers that he did not know that Vincent
Foster, his friend and trusted aide, had been found dead four hours earlier
in Ft. Marcy Park. But if Rose Procopio was telling the truth, the
president had been informed before 9:00 p.m. that a search had been made of
Foster's office and that something of importance had been found. What it
was has never been disclosed. And, if it exists, Rose Procopio's 302
remains a closely guarded secret to this day, protected by the FBI and by
Special Prosecutor Robert B. Fiske Jr. and by Independent Counsel Kenneth
Starr.

We have reason to believe that it does exist, because when the FBI
questioned Bruce Lindsey, President Clinton's close confidante, they asked
him about a man coming into the Map Room, closing the door and reporting to
the president. Mr. Lindsey denied having any knowledge of this. This was
treated as secret. The question and Lindsey's answer were both blacked out
in his FBI 302 that was published by the Senate Banking Committee. But
someone blundered. They neglected to black out the question and Lindsey's
answer in the FBI agent's handwritten notes that were released in response
to an FOIA suit filed by Christopher Ruddy, the reporter whose stories in
the New York Post resulted in Robert Fiske reopening the Foster
investigation in January 1994.

The Foster investigation has been closed, and the OIC admits there is no
longer any justification for redacting 302s and withholding evidence on the
ground that its release might adversely affect an ongoing investigation.

However, the release of such sensitive documents as Rose Procopio's 302
might expose the complicity of Fiske, Starr and the lawyers and FBI agents
who worked for them in concealing what the Clintons knew about Foster's
death and when they knew it. We will soon see if the courts will allow the
OIC and the FBI to get away with removing or destroying important
ocumentary evidence in the Foster case to conceal the truth about why and
how Vince Foster died.

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[CTRL] AP: Report: Energy Department misled FBI in bungled espionage investigation

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Report: Energy Department misled FBI in bungled espionage investigation

By PETE YOST
Associated Press


WASHINGTON (August 13, 2001 4:53 p.m. EDT) - Misleading reports from the
Energy Department led to the FBI's investigation into nuclear scientist Wen
Ho Lee, a review of the bungled espionage inquiry concludes.

The report also faults the FBI for accepting the department's assessment.

The Energy Department's inquiry in 1996 "was a deeply flawed product whose
shortcomings went unrecognized and unaddressed due to the FBI's own
inadequate investigation," said the report.

The Justice Department released two heavily censored chapters of the report
Monday. A judge ordered the release in a lawsuit filed by former Energy
Department counter-intelligence chief Notra Trulock.

"To say that DOE misled the FBI and to say that DOE improperly focused its
conclusion only on Wen Ho Lee is only to describe half the problem," said
the report.

"The other half was the FBI's unfortunate and unwarranted acceptance of
DOE's description" of Chinese nuclear capabilities and the FBI's
"unhesitating and unquestioning acceptance of DOE's identification of Lee
as 'the most logical suspect,"' said the report.

The report stated that at the very start, the Energy Department made
"inaccurate representations" to the FBI.

The department had assembled a panel called the Kindred Spirit Analytical
Group (KSAG) to assess possible Chinese theft of U.S. nuclear secrets.

The group concluded that U.S. secrets had been compromised and had helped
the Chinese in determining what they could hope to achieve and how to
"avoid blind alleys in their own research and development."

"What KSAG concluded, however, and what the FBI would be told these DOE
experts had determined, were two different matters," the review stated.

"This inaccurate communication of the predicate resulted in the FBI
spending years investigating the wrong crime."

Trulock is suing two other Energy Department investigators who said that
Lee was targeted because of his race.

The report concluded that Lee wasn't targeted based on race, but said the
DOE singled him out without considering other possible suspects.

Messages left with former Energy Secretary Bill Richardson were not
immediately returned. DOE officials were reviewing the document.


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[CTRL] CHANDRA: UNRAVELING GOVERNMENT COVERUPS?

[MIKE SPITZER]

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CHANDRA: UNRAVELING GOVERNMENT COVERUPS?


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MEDIUM RARE - By Jim Rarey - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

August 13, 2001

[This is the fourth in a series of articles by the author based on the
premise that Chandra Levy's disappearance and presumed death resulted from
information she could have uncovered from Bureau of Prison records as part
of her official duties there. (See bottom of this article for reference to
earlier articles.)]

Whether or not Chandra actually had knowledge of the two massive government
cover-ups discussed in this article, the possibility or perception that she
did (or was actively pursuing either of them) would make her dangerous to
powerful people and would be reason enough for her elimination.

Before rejecting the idea that a "mere" intern could have such an impact,
the reader should delve into Chandra's background as discussed in this
writer's article "Chandra's Dangerous Knowledge." The information in that
article came mostly from an in-depth story by Washington Times reporter
Frank Murray. Chandra was not an "ordinary" intern.

Chandra was peripherally involved in the Oklahoma City bombing story as she
worked with journalists and TV personalities arranging coverage of Timothy
McVeigh's execution.

One of the key figures discussed in previous articles was Dr. Louis Jolyon
West. (There is a minor flap on the Internet over the spelling of his
middle name, at least three versions of which have appeared in various
documents and stories.)

Dr. West was one of the premiere scientists involved in mind control
experiments, supported by the CIA. He worked closely with Sidney Gottlieb,
director of the CIA's infamous MK-ULTRA mind control program.

West allegedly visited McVeigh up to seventeen times in prison and may (it
is speculated) have been instrumental in persuading McVeigh to remain
silent about coconspirators in the OKC bombing.

This becomes plausible when coupled with McVeigh's claim that he was
implanted with a (biotelemetric) microchip during the Gulf war. Mind
control researcher Alex Constantine has documented (in his article, "The
Good Soldier") the tremendous scientific advances made in mind control
since the early days of Gottlieb and West's experiments with LSD. (West is
said to have accidentally killed a bull elephant with an overdose of LSD,
possibly leading to his nickname of "Jolly.")

But West may also have changed the course of recorded history in relation
to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Again in a prison venue, Dr. West "examined" Jack Ruby after his conviction
for killing alleged assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. At the time, Ruby had been
begging Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Earl Warren to bring him to
Washington so he could tell his complete story. Warren refused, for
security reasons, but condescended to meet with Ruby at the prison.

In a somewhat rambling (drug induced?) conversation with Warren, Ruby again
pleaded with Warren to be left alone in the room with the Chief Justice,
which was refused. Ruby was portrayed in the media as being paranoid and
incoherent in that interview. Ruby died in prison, reportedly of cancer,
before his appeal had been heard.

Dr. West was one of a number of psychiatrists "appointed" by the court to
examine Ruby. Several years later, before the House Select Committee on
Assassinations, chaired by liberal Democrat Louis Stokes of Ohio, Alan
Adelson (a Southfield, Michigan attorney who had represented both Jack Ruby
and his brother Earl) testified about Dr. West's involvement.

Adelson said West was the last psychiatrist to deal with Ruby (Jack) and
the only one to diagnose paranoia. All the other psychiatrists and
psychologists were working with attorney F. Lee Bailey developing a
"psychomotor epilepsy" defense for Ruby, he said. Adelson also added that
he (Adelson) had extensive conversations with West about Jack's paranoia,
both in Dallas and Detroit.

The select committee issued a controversial report concluding that
President Kennedy had been killed by a conspiracy involving more than one
person.

Adelson died around 1986 at the age of 55. Dr. West passed away in January
of 1999 at his home in Los Angeles, reportedly of cancer, at the age of 74
shortly after stories surfaced on the web about his visits to McVeigh.

What would Ruby have said to Earl Warren in a one on one? We will never
know.

Another government coverup waiting to unravel, which could be triggered by
records at the Bureau of Prisons, covers a litany of names familiar to
researchers of CIA involvement in drug and arms smuggling.

Carlos Lehder (Rivas), a cofounder of the Medellin drug cartel in Columbia,
was tried in the U.S. and sentenced to life plus 135 years in prison. In
return for his "key" testimony against former Panamanian dictator (and CIA
asset) Manuel Noriega, Lehder's sentence was reduced to fifty-five years,
reportedly without the possibility of parole.

During C

[CTRL] Israeli Soldiers Beat Journalists

[William Shannon]

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,2586715%255E1702,00.

html



Israeli soldiers beat journalists
From AP
14aug01

ISRAELI soldiers beat two members of an Egyptian television crew at a West
Bank checkpoint, with the camera rolling throughout.

The crew was filming at an army roadblock near the Kalandia refugee camp
between Jerusalem and Ramallah, when soldiers shouted at them to leave the
area.

After the reporters withdrew about 20m from the roadblock, a soldier
approached cameraman Abdel Nasr Ebdon and kicked him in the groin as he was
filming.

When Egypt TV reporter Tarek Abdel Gaber approached an officer at the
roadblock to ask why Ebdon had been assaulted, Gaber was shoved and slapped
by another soldier.

As the tape kept rolling, the first soldier returned to Ebdon and repeatedly
kicked him until he fell to the ground. The officer at the roadblock did
nothing to stop the attack.

"These soldiers do not respect the uniform they wear," Gaber said, shaken
after the incident.

In a past incident, soldiers had cut up his Israeli government-issued press
card, he said.

The Israeli army spokesman's unit said it deeply regretted the incident and
would conduct a thorough investigation.

In a statement, the army said the results of the investigation would be
passed on to the journalists involved and the Foreign Press Association.

Since the beginning of the current round of violence last September, the
Foreign Press Association has raised more than 40 complaints about Israeli
soldiers attacking reporters.

No replies have been received from the military.

[CTRL] Israeli Police And "Routine,Organized Cruelty"

[William Shannon]

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/



Israeli police 'carry out routine, organised cruelty'

By Robert Fisk in Jerusalem

14 August 2001

The Arabs called it a "day of rage" but the Israelis were the ones 
demonstrating their rage outside Orient House yesterday. The Palestinian 
youth who dared to hold up a Palestinian flag made of paper was seized by six 
border guards and plain-clothes police, kicked, beaten, punched in the face 
and the back, and then kneed in the groin in front of us all.
 
Many of the police had come from Haifa, where a Palestinian suicide bomber 
had blown himself up a few hours earlier in a vain effort to murder Israelis 
in a café, and there was a tangible desire to inflict pain on some of the 
crowd.
 
A tall, thin, young man who tried to escape a policeman's grasp at the iron 
security barriers was dragged back into the police lines and set upon by 
eight men. There must have been 20 television cameras and a score of 
photographers running level with the Shin Bet intelligence boys as they 
dragged the man screaming up the road towards Orient House, kicking him in 
the chest and forcing back his head until he choked.
 
The moment he was in the back seat of a police van, an Israeli plain-clothes 
man in a red shirt set upon him. As he was held down, the Israeli kicked him 
again and again between the legs until he was crying in a high, animal voice. 

It was, as one of the foreign protesters muttered, enough to turn a 
Palestinian into a suicide-bomber. It was also very, very weird. Here we 
were, perhaps a hundred journalists watching a hundred "peace" demonstrators, 
European, American, Christian and Jew, and Palestinian, and every few 
minutes, on a signal from a fat policeman in a blue shirt, his colleagues 
would run amok. 

After all the talk of Israel being a peace-loving state, founded upon the 
rule of law, the police would suddenly prove that those constant Palestinian 
complaints of beatings and brutality were true, right in front of us. A 
border guard became so fascinated by the beating of one man ­ he could not 
take his eyes off the fists that were hammering into the man's stomach and 
ribs ­ that he forgot to keep the press at bay and allowed me to walk up to 
the van as one of his colleagues viciously assaulted another man. 

Every police force can lose its cool, but this was calculated, routine, 
organised cruelty. A lot of the border guards were grinning when the 
Palestinians screamed. After a while it was obscene to watch. 

I walked over to the Israeli mounted police. One of the officers was sitting 
in the saddle, smoking a cigarette and laughing as he talked on a mobile 
phone. A Shin Bet man patted the lead horse. "Most of these are Hannovers," 
he said of the breed. "We've got Hannovers and quarters. They take really 
good care of them." 

Up the street, closer to Orient House, his colleagues were taking good care 
of their prisoners. In front of the horrified eyes of a group of humanitarian 
workers, one of them American, they beat the captured Palestinians all over 
again. 

The crowd had no chance of seizing back Orient House, occupied by Israeli 
troops and police after Thursday's suicide bombing in Jerusalem which 
massacred 15 Israelis. They were kept a quarter of a mile from the building. 
But the horses were ridden into the crowd; and a couple of stun grenades 
fired. Just one officer realised that this piece of state bullying was a 
public relations disaster. 

"Stop carrying them," he shouted as two Palestinians were dragged past the 
cameras. "Let them walk." 

But they could no longer stand upright. One of them had his shirt dragged 
over his head to reveal a back covered in red welts. A thought kept recurring 
in our minds: if this is what the Israeli police do to Palestinians in front 
of us, what do they do to them behind our backs? 

Nor was it difficult to guess what these young men were thinking. Just a few 
hours before, they had heard that a Palestinian girl aged 10 had been shot 
dead by Israeli troops in Hebron, and that, after a night of grieving, her 
60-year-old grandmother had died of a heart attack. A little after midday 
yesterday, the little girl and 
her grandmother were buried together in the same grave. 

Re: [CTRL] NYDN: Condit Attacks Calls to Resign

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>This guy's audacity just keeps blowing me away! This sick pup is a "REAL
>piece of...work!"

I couldn't believe it last week when his supporters held a rally showing
their support, including having his minister father speaking to the media
about what a swell guy is son is

Where is their support for the Levy family?  I just thought it was
incredibly bad taste for them to hold that rally, and none of them are
showing the least compassion or concern for Chandra Levy or her family.


>WASHINGTON - Rep. Gary Condit lashed out yesterday after the two biggest
>papers in his home district - the Modesto Bee and the Fresno Bee - called
>on him to resign.

Sounds like we might begin to see that infamous temper of his...


>"My 30 years in public service should have earned me that much
>consideration," he said. "The Bee's conclusion, that my refusal to
>publicly disclose details of this case is a violation of the public
>trust, is an unfortunate misunderstanding of the difference between my
>cooperation with the police and my unwillingness to give in to media
>demands that I immediately bear all parts of my and my family's private
>life."

Oh, I don't know...seems like if PUBLIC servants start using PUBLIC funds to
transport their paramours hither and yon or to buy them gifts, it stops
being a 'private life' and becomes a matter of public interest and deserved
scrutiny


June
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[CTRL] John Negroponte- Resume' Written In Blood

[William Shannon]

http://www.yellowtimes.org/issue35/realitycheck_column1.html



"John Negroponte: A Resume Written in Blood"

Issue 35 of YellowTimes.ORG - August 13th

(YellowTimes.ORG) -- While the eyes of America are keenly focused on the
contents of Gary Condit's garbage can and bathroom sink, George W. Bush is
busy nominating some very questionable people to some very sensitive
positions.

One such nominee is John D. Negroponte, President Bush's pick for U.S.
Ambassador to the United Nations. Supporters cite Mr. Negroponte's long
career of foreign service, and point to his thirty-seven years with the
United States Department of State as a career diplomat.

What they conveniently omit, however, is the fact that four of those years,
from 1981 through 1985, were spent as the U.S. Ambassador to Honduras. During
this bleak period of American history, Mr. Negroponte became an integral part
of an ugly little scandal known as Iran-Contra. Eyewitnesses to the
perfidious affair, such as Sister Laetitia Bordes who has written extensively
on the subject, report that, "John Negroponte worked closely with General
Alvarez, Chief of the Armed Forces in the Honduras, to enable the training of
Honduran soldiers in psychological warfare, sabotage, and many types of human
rights violations."

Back in the eighties, when Negroponte was installed in the Honduras as a
replacement for Carter appointee Jack Binns, denying all knowledge of these
violations was not only a simple matter, it was a job requirement. Binns, it
seemed, had been yanked from his post for refusing to remain politely silent
on the subject. Despite the briefing book left for him by his ignominiously
removed predecessor, Negroponte continued to report that things in the
Honduras were as right as rain. No death squads. No political prisoners. No
midnight abductions or tortuous interrogations. As a result of these
blue-sky-and-sunshine reports to Congress, military funding to the Honduras
skyrocketed to 77.4 million dollars, a good 73.4 million more than when he
assumed office. And the blood bath continued.

The very best possible spin on John Negroponte's blind eye and deaf ear,
suggests that for want of a crazed Honduran death squad torturing and maiming
innocent civilians in the middle of the Embassy dining room, he only reported
to Congress what he knew, and what he knew amounted to precious little. This
is undoubtedly the approach that will be used in his upcoming Congressional
hearings.

But if this is the case, why did former Negroponte official, Rick Chidester
report that he was ordered to remove all mention of specific human rights
violations from his 1982 report on the Honduran situation? By whom? The
janitor? And what precisely did Mr. Negroponte do with Jack Binn's briefing
book? Did it sit unopened for four years? Was it used to swat flies or
housebreak the dog? In 1983, Negroponte's embassy reported that, "The
Honduran government neither condones nor knowingly permits killing of a
political or nonpolitical nature," and went on to state that there were "no
political prisoners in Honduras." In 1995, however, Negroponte admitted to
Baltimore Sun reporters that human rights had been violated from time to
time. In other words, when Negroponte had the Office of Public Diplomacy's
propaganda machine to cover his back, there were no violations; when
subsequent investigations proved things to the contrary, there may have been
a few problems. Just a violation or two here and there. Nothing to get worked
up about.

The truth of the matter is, in order for John Negroponte to have remained
blissfully ignorant of the grotesque war crimes committed in the Honduras
during his ambassadorial tenure, he would have had to literally become a
total recluse. The Sun reports 318 stories published in Honduran newspapers
in 1982 alone, detailing accounts of the murderous actions of American-backed
Honduran armed forces. So Negroponte would have had to eschew all news
sources during that time period. And he would have had to throw his own
embassy's annual reports to Congress in the mail, un-read and un-reviewed.
And he would have had to spill an entire pot of coffee on Jack Binn's
briefing book, thereby rendering it unreadable. How else could he have lived
and served in such a brutally ravaged country without ever becoming aware of
the horror taking place right outside the Embassy gates?

These are difficult questions, but they are questions that the Senate
Committee on Foreign Relations must ask John Negroponte, and they are
questions that he must answer thoroughly and honestly.

There are others who might have answered these questions as well. On March
25, the Los Angeles Times reported the sudden deportation from the United
States of a group of former Honduran death squad members, including Luis
Alonso Discus who founded the infamous Battalion 3-16. Discus' United States
visa was revoked in February of this year. The White House press release
announcing President Bush's intent to appo

[CTRL] Yet Another Dirty Bush Nominee

[William Shannon]

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010812/pl/wildlife_nominee_2.html



Sunday August 12 6:15 PM ET

Allegations Arise Over Bush Nominee

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s nominee to lead the
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service was fired from the Pennsylvania Game
Commission in 1995 amid allegations of payroll fraud.

Steven A. Williams was dismissed from his job as deputy executive director
after it was discovered that he had asked a subordinate to change payroll
records, which temporarily boosted Williams' salary, The Erie (Pa.)
Times-News reported Sunday.

Williams was never charged over the incident. He told the newspaper he was
frustrated over the dismissal and said he didn't know anyone was doing
anything wrong. If the matter comes up during his Senate confirmation
hearings, Williams said it will be a chance to tell his side of the story.

Mark Pfeifle, a spokesman for the Department of the Interior, which includes
the Fish and Wildlife Service, said Sunday that Williams had been
``completely exonerated by the Pennsylvania attorney general, completely
exonerated by the Pennsylvania Game Commission, and those who say otherwise
are ill-advised and not backed up by the facts.''

``We look forward to his confirmation by the Senate,'' Pfeifle added.

Williams is currently the secretary of the Kansas Department of Wildlife and
Parks. Bush announced July 18 that he would nominate Williams to run the
federal agency that works to conserve and protect fish, wildlife, plants and
their habitats.

``Steve Williams has a two-decade career protecting wildlife and bringing
people together to resolve natural resource issues,'' said Pfeifle. ``He has
the full support of the Interior Department and will be a great director of
the Fish and Wildlife Service.''

[CTRL] Sen. Smith Abusing Office?

[William Shannon]

Sen. Smith accused
of abusing his office 

Staff Report 

A retired U.S. Army general has accused U.S. Sen. Bob Smith of interfering in 
a criminal probe and other abuses of office in his zeal to protect an 
anti-satellite defense program and a contractor whose top executives 
contributed heavily to his failed 1999 Presidential bid. 

A Smith spokesman called the charges “unfounded and preposterous.” 

Lisa Harrison said Smith, a Republican, acted non-politically and within his 
oversight authority to ensure that the Army used funds for the programs for 
which they were appropriated. Smith could not be reached for comment 
yesterday. 

An eight-year-long “war” between New Hampshire’s senior senator and the 
Pentagon is revealed in the latest edition of The National Journal magazine. 

Reporter George Wilson, a former Pentagon correspondent for the Washington 
Post, authors a detailed story about Smith’s tug-of-war with the Pentagon to 
save the KE-ASAT program from what he feels is an effort by some Army 
officials to gut it. 

The story says Smith persuaded former Secretary of Defense William Cohen to 
block the retirement at full rank of the officer who headed the program “to 
punish him” for what Smith perceived as his effort to kill KE-ASAT and lying 
to Smith about it. Smith also placed a “hold” on the nomination of the 
program head’s successor. 

“I couldn’t get any attention,” Smith told the Journal. He said Congress’ 
General Accounting Office had found military officials running the program 
had diverted 4 percent of the money appropriated for the system elsewhere. 

He said the military officials were so bent on killing the program that they 
had manufactured sexual harassment and money laundering charges against the 
civilian project head after he had warned Smith that the military leaders 
were trying to cancel KE-ASAT. 

Smith spokesman Lisa Harrison told The Union Leader Smith’s actions were 
appropriate and were done to protect what Smith considered whistle-blowers. 

“Holds are a common part of the parliamentary process used to engage in 
negotiations,” she said. “The bottom line of this entire matter is that it 
is congress exercising oversight responsibilities and the Army’s 
accountability for a $350 million investment.” 

Harrison said it was not the job of the military officers to determine 
defense policy, even if they were skeptical of the anti-satellite system. 

“Their job is to implement the will of the American people as expressed 
through their elected representatives, and they weren’t doing it,” Harrison 
said. 

But the Journal quotes retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner, a former commander of the 
Army Space and Missile Defense Command, as saying Smith’s actions were “an 
abusive use of power.” 

Garner said Smith “exerted undue influence on the lives of general officers 
who tried to do what they though best for the Army and for the nation . . . 
He had a tremendously disruptive influence on that command.” 

Garner also said it was “unthinkable” that Smith would try to get involved 
in a criminal investigation. 

Harrison said he did not, and she called it “absolutely, positively 
preposterous” that Smith would act in response to political contributions. 

Smith told the Journal he saw the Army investigations against the civilian 
program chief, Steve Tiwari, as part of a pattern of Army retaliation against 
defenders of KE-ASAT. 

Army leaders “began to pull people off the program who knew what they were 
doing and punished these people by coming up with trumped-up charges like 
sexual harassment,” Smith said. “They began to discriminate against good 
people whose only sin was to be strong for the program.” 

Smith told the Journal that while the congress appropriated $450 million over 
10 to 15 years to build the system, the Army spread it around and spent part 
of the money on other programs. 

Spokesman Harrison said the report was biased. 

She said the implication that “this is a one-man crusade” is inaccurate 
because the majority of congress backed funding for KE-AST many times. 

Although the story is the first word New Hampshire has received of Smith’s 
feud with the Army, Harrison said that in Washington, it is nothing new. 

“It is certainly a subject that has gone back and forth and up and down for 
years” in defense and trade journals, she said. “The story is that this is a 
senator taking issue with the Pentagon bureaucracy, and Pentagon bureaucrats 
not liking his independence.” 

Smith has long been a strong supporter of Star Wars-style anti-missile 
defense during his 11 years of service on the Senate Armed Services 
Committee. 

The KE-ASAT program is designed to be “an orbiting battering ram that would 
slam into enemy satellites during wartime, destroying them or at least 
knocking them out of any useful orbit,” according to the Journal story. 

While Smith believes strongly in the program, the Journal says the Army and 
Air Force believe “there are better ways 

[CTRL] Fw:Off Topic, sort of~ Dogs May Be Having The Last Laugh - On Us

[Amelia]

-Caveat Lector-

Off Topic unless you are a follower of the "Dog Conspiracy Theory."
~Amelia~

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:31 AM
Subject: Dogs May Be Having The Last Laugh - On Us


http://www.rense.com/general12/laugh.htm

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[CTRL] Harry Truman, War Criminal

[William Shannon]

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j081001.html



HARRY TRUMAN, WAR CRIMINAL
WorldNetDaily's Tom Ambrose defends the undefendable

My last column, "Hiroshima Mon Amour: Why Americans are barbarians," has 
provoked a storm of protest from the clueless and the humorless – reinforcing 
my own conviction that Americans, for the most part, are indeed barbarians, 
without the ability or the desire to overcome their brainwashing and engage 
in even the simplest tasks of reasoning. They don't know their own history, 
except as recycled and rewritten by CNN and the court historians, and, what's 
more, they don't want to know. As evidence of this brain-dead state, I submit 
a screed by Tom Ambrose, an assistant editor over at WorldNetDaily, 
imaginatively entitled "Raimondo's Wrong." 








A GREAT HONOR?

Ambrose revs up his readers with a prefatory note about how he's never ever 
felt the need to "spar with other columnists" – with one exception that 
proves the rule – "no matter how much I disagreed with them. Until today." To 
what do I owe this great honor? Ambrose writes:
"If his intention was to push people's buttons, he surely succeeded in that 
endeavor with me. I regard what he wrote as a thoughtless, warped rant – a 
pile of pacifistic pap with little redeeming value."


PACIFISTIC OR PUGILISTIC?

Pacifistic? Me? *Sigh* Okay, maybe I was a little unclear; maybe I waffled 
just a little bit, and didn't state my case against the US in unequivocally 
black-and-white terms, words even an Epsilon Minus Semi-Moron could 
understand, so here goes: I am not just saying that the US should have 
refrained from nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I am telling you that the war 
in the Pacific was a monstrous injustice from the word go. Franklin Delano 
Roosevelt's policy was to provoke, entice, and otherwise entrap the Japanese 
into war. He couldn't get into the war by the front door, in Europe, because 
the American people overwhelmingly opposed such a course, so he chose to go 
in through the back. Now this is a thesis not entirely unknown to Ambrose: 
indeed, he not only alludes to it later on in his rambling diatribe, but 
indicates his substantial agreement, admitting that:
"There is strong evidence that the US acted in a way that helped lead to the 
Japanese decision to draw first blood. To his credit, Raimondo previously got 
this part of the story right."


THE WHOLE STORY

This is not just "part of the story," it is the whole story. It is 
astonishing that, to illustrate this one point of agreement between us, 
Ambrose links to my review of Thomas Fleming's The New Dealers' War, a book 
which shows how FDR, in response to the failure of his policies at home, 
sought US intervention in the war as the solution to his political and 
economic problems. But if Ambrose agrees that US involvement in that war was 
a colossal mistake – and not just that but part of a concerted policy by FDR 
and his closest advisors to socialize the American economy, smash domestic 
opposition, and build up the Soviet Union, as Fleming avers – then how could 
the murderous culmination of that very policy be justified? If the Pacific 
war was a mistake at its root, in its very origins, then surely its 
horrifying climax was something less than desirable.


THE TRUTH ABOUT PEARL HARBOR

Furthermore, in my review of the Fleming book, cited by Ambrose, I also 
discuss the thesis of Robert Stinnett's Day of Deceit, a book that proves FDR 
knew in advance about the Japanese "sneak attack" on Pearl Harbor. Stinnett, 
using the Freedom of Information Act, analyzes documents previously withheld 
from the public and shows just what the US government knew, and how and when 
they knew it, tracing the flow of information from US intelligence sources 
all the way up to the White House. Not only did they know about the Pearl 
Harbor "surprise" weeks in advance, but FDR and his cronies consciously 
engineered it, and were, in their own way, just as responsible as the 
Japanese warlords who gave the order to attack. Japan is entirely bereft of 
oil, rubber, tin, and virtually all of the natural resources necessary for 
the maintenance of modern civilization: she is forced to go abroad for them. 
But if the free flow of commerce is obstructed, and such items cannot be 
obtained peacefully, by means of trade, then Nippon must procure them in 
other ways – or else live a life of primitive privation. Faced with the 
prospect of death by strangulation or war, the Japanese chose the latter – 
and who can blame them? The Japanese attack, seen in the context of the 
economic blockade imposed on Japan by the Western powers, was a desperate act 
of self-defense.


THE REAL AGGRESSORS

Japanese diplomats desperately tried to come to some accommodation with the 
US, but FDR was intransigent: under no circumstances would he either lift the 
embargo, or permit a Japanese challenge to British, French, and Dutch 
hegemony in Southeast Asia. Seen against 

[CTRL] Fw: AheadNews.com® Condit/Levy Stories

[Amelia]

-Caveat Lector-

Not the most factual coverage of this but maybe the most creative
and inventive.
~Amelia~

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:36 AM
Subject: AheadNews.com®


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Re: [CTRL] Chuck Schlund - How YOU Can Help

[M. F. Abernathy]

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Please make the information presented in the Schlund affadavit available
to everybody that you know! Please call talk shows, contact newspapers,
radio stations, television stations, etc. and let them know that you
KNOW that they refuse to report on the issues which this document
describes.

Please write to your congresspeople and senators, governors and local
elected officials. Demand action from them!!! Many of them are aware of
the issues involved [govt. sanctioned drug trafficking, massive
corruption, murder, torture etc.] but are AFRAID to speak out.

 Chuck Schlund is fighting for ALL of us and has paid an extremely
high price. It's time for us to give him our support! Although the
information in this document may seem INCREDIBLE and nearly impossible
to believe; much of it can be verified.

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[CTRL] Read The ENTIRE Schlund Affadavit Here:

[Martin F. Abernathy]

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This is a large document [approx. 450Kb]. You can read the entire affadavit at:

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[CTRL] Fw: Rand report: Facecams can thwart terrorism, install them now!

[flw]

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From: "Declan McCullagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> [I've copied the author of the paper, a Rand analyst named John Woodward.
> He is an attorney who lives in Virginia and was most recently a CIA
> operations officer for 12 years, according to his bio, in addition to being
> the CIA Staff Assistant to the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy at the
> Pentagon. --Declan]
>
> 
>
> From: "Thomas C. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Rand urges face-scanning of the masses
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 06:14:30 -0700
>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20966.html
>
> Think tank urges face-scanning of the masses
>
> The famous Rand Organization http://www.rand.org, a putatively non-partisan
> think tank, has come out in favor of using face-scanning technology to
> violate the privacy of the innocent masses in search of -- you guessed it --
> terrorists and pedophiles, the two most detested fringe-groups on the
> planet.
>
> Following the regrettable inclinations of all modern governments, a recent
> Rand report http://www.rand.org/publications/IP/IP209/IP209.pdf
> reckons that the natural rights of the majority of ordinary, law-abiding
> citizens should be sacrificed for the sacred mission of identifying and
> prosecuting a mere handful of sexually perverted or homicidal lunatics.
>
> "Biometric facial recognition can provide significant benefits to society,"
> Rand says, and adds that "we should not let the fear of potential but
> inchoate threats to privacy, such as super surveillance, deter us from using
> facial recognition where it can produce positive benefits."
>
> Chief among these are the detection of terrorists and pedophiles, as we
> said. No matter that these sick individuals comprise a mere fraction of a
> fraction of normal human beings. No matter that detecting them requires the
> most outrageous government intrusions into the natural comings and goings of
> millions of innocent people.
>
> Rand's answer to serious questions of personal liberty is a few
> easily-skirted regulations which ought to allay all of our concerns.
>
> "By implementing reasonable safeguards [for government use of biometric face
> scanning], we can harness its power to maximize its benefits while
> minimizing the intrusion on individual privacy," the report chirps
> optimistically.
>
> Rand returns repeatedly to the controversial, and prosecutorially worthless,
> use of biometric face scanning at the 2001 Super Bowl
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/16561.html.
>
> "While facial recognition did not lead to any arrests at the Super Bowl,
> there is evidence that using such a system can help deter crime. In Newham,
> England, the crime rate fell after police installed 300 surveillance cameras
> and incorporated facial recognition technology. While it is possible that
> the criminals only shifted their efforts to other locales, crime in Newham
> at least was deterred."
>
> That's rich. So it's 'possible' that local criminals moved elsewhere, is it?
> Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it's certain that they did, which
> implies that no one will ever be safe until every dark corner of the planet
> is blanketed by high-tech cameras performing a sort of criminal triage on
> all of us.
>
> And after all, things could be worse. "The facial recognition system used at
> the Super Bowl was not physically invasive or intrusive for spectators. In
> fact, it was much less invasive than a metal detector at a public building
> or an inauguration parade checkpoint. In this sense, facial recognition
> helped to protect the privacy of individuals, who otherwise might have to
> endure more individualized police attention," Rand points out.
>
> Of course, no appeal to Fascism and Kafkaesque control would be complete
> without reference to the safety of innocent children. Rand does not let us
> down: "many parents would most likely feel safer knowing their children's
> elementary school had a facial recognition system to ensure that convicted
> child molesters were not granted access to school grounds."
>
> It's all very popular, but immensely dangerous, thinking. Preserving
> personal liberty requires that we all accept a bit of chaos, a bit of
> hooliganism, a bit of risk. Yes, you or I might possibly get our heads
> bashed in by brain-dead hooligans, or get blown up by terrorist bombers, and
> our little lambs might get exploited by sexual sickos if we don't keep a
> close eye on them. But probably not.
>
> Surely, the suffocating, risk-free environments our governments are trying
> so desperately to sell us to extend their powers of observation and control
> are far more grotesque and soul-destroying than anything a terrorist or a
> pedophile might ever hope to produce. ®
>
>
>
>
> ---

[CTRL] Carolina police block Federal nuclear waste

[Edward Britton]

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Source:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-535828,00.html

Carolina police may block Bush's nuclear waste

Special report: George Bush's America

Julian Borger in Washington
Monday August 13, 2001
The Guardian

A high-stakes dispute about the disposal of surplus plutonium from US
nuclear warheads may be brought to a head this month by the governor of
South Carolina's order to the police to consider erecting roadblocks to
prevent federal nuclear shipments entering the state.
Jim Hodges accused President George Bush of reneging on the previous
administration's promise that any plutonium sent to South Carolina for
reprocessing would be shipped out again.

Mr Hodges said he had no intention of letting his state, which played a
pivotal role in Mr Bush's election, become a permanent nuclear dump.

"If it is necessary for me to lie down in front of the trucks, I'll do
that," he said. "We're going to do whatever it takes."

He sent a memo asking the state public safety director, who is in charge of
the traffic police, to evaluate using "highway roadblocks or other
measures" to prevent shipments crossing the state line.

A confrontation could come within the next few weeks, as shipments are due
to arrive from a plant in Rocky Flats, Colorado.

The Savannah River nuclear processing centre in South Carolina has been
chosen to deal with plutonium from nuclear warheads dismantled under an
agreement with Russia in 1996.

The Clinton administration planned to convert about 26 tonnes of plutonium
into the plutonium-uranium fuel known as mixed oxide (Mox) for use in
commercial reactors and vitrify eight tonnes of plutonium residue from
Rocky Flatsfor burial elsewhere.

The Bush administration has cut the $6.1bn vitrification budget and
questioned plans to build a Mox manufacturing plant at Savannah River.

It still plans to sharply reduce the nuclear arsenal, but it is now unclear
what it will do with the warheads. South Carolina officials fear they will
be dumped in their state.

"We will be left holding the proverbial bag," Mr Hodges said. "We must be
prepared to stand up to Washington ... My hope is the federal government
will come to its senses and allow us to avoid this step, but we cannot take
a chance."

He told state congressmen it was clear that the energy department intended
to renege on many of its commitments to the state about removing
reprocessed material and cleaning up the environment.

South Carolina would not be the first state to take drastic steps to avoid
becoming a nuclear dump. In 1988 the then governor of Idaho, Cecil Andrus,
had the police block shipments of the naval nuclear waste to a processing
plant in his state.

The energy secretary, Spencer Abraham, has promised to negotiate with South
Carolina on the issue.

Visiting Savannah River last week, he said: "The legacy of this facility is
one of working together. That's what I want to do. I'm certain that's what
the governor wants to do as well."

Tension between the federal government and individual states on the nuclear
waste issue is likely to increase, since the Bush administration plans to
decommission a large number of nuclear weapons and resuscitate the nuclear
energy programme.
Edward   ><+>

Logic:

(1) The study or practice of the principles of reasoning, especially of the
structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method
and validity in deductive reasoning.

(2) A means of terrifying liberals.

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Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

[thew]

-Caveat Lector-

the so called settlers are basically fanatics, who are trying to bring about
WW3 and have no sense of compromise, or sanity.

The religious parties hold way too much power in Israel, considering the
size of the community they actually represent. this is one of the big
problems of parliamentary democracy, small groups gain large power in
coalition governments, and can press an unpopular agenda. Its a flawed
democracy indeed, but its not supposed to be a theocratic one. Much like the
way the Christian right hijacked politics in America, these ultra religious
have hijacked the politics of Israel. no question about it.

while we are the topic... any Arab democracies in the region?







"It is not the function of our government to keep the
citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen
to keep the government from falling into error." Justice
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> From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:33:21 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>>
>> I agree that the theocratic state is archaic anathema
>>
>> can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
>> define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
>> Muslims, than Muslims?
>>
>> as I stated last time I asked this unanswered question, I dont know any
>> Israelis, who dont want a multicultural state.
>
> I think you miss the basic point. Israel holds itself out as the sole
> "democratic"
> state in the Middle East. That is often the justification provided why the US
> has a special obligation to Israel...why it sends Israel the bulk of its
> foreign
> aid, etc.
>
> A theocratic state is incompatible with a democratic state.
>
> You may not personally know any Israelis who don't want a multicultural
> state, but you are clueless if you are not aware that a significant segment of
> Israeli society is opposed to a multicultural state and insist on a
> theocratically
> "pure" state. If you poll most of the so called "settlers" on that issue you
> will
> quickly learn that they are absolutely opposed to a multicultural state and if
> they had their way would deport all non Jews from Israel - or at the very
> least
> would deny them citizenship (after all, they still need cheap labor).
> flw
>
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[CTRL] Anti Christian New World Order & the Ones who rewrite the bible?

[Aleisha Saba]

 

THE COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL POLICY
 
The British Eugenics Establishment
 
The British Race Scientists

A critical piece of information unearthing the dark origins of the
Council for National Policy is the fact that Nelson Bunker Hunt
(financier and executive officer of SIL's ILC, the Religious Roundtable,
Campus Crusade and JBS, and main funder/second president of the CNP) and
Jesse Helms (whose top political operative, Tom Ellis, was director of
the racial eugenics Pioneer Fund and second CNP president) were members
of a racial eugenics society -- the International Association for the
Advancement of Eugenics and Ethnology. The IAAEE, which is headquartered
in Edinburgh, Scotland, established a branch in the U.S. through the
personal agency of Lord Malcolm Douglas -- a member of the British
Cliveden Set which supported Hitler during World War II.

"[Lady Malcolm Douglas-Hamilton's] deceased husband, part of the British
aristocracy, was the brother of the host of Rudolph Hess when, in 1940,
Hess made his secret flight to England. Hess, a top aide to Hitler and
Nazi Party official, sought to meet with the British aristocratic
circles known as the Cliveden Set. Sympathetic to Hitler's war aims, the
Cliveden Set tried to get England out of the war it had declared against
Germany in September, 1939, after Germany invaded Poland. Hess was
arrested and imprisoned. After Lord Malcolm Douglas came to the U.S., he
established an American branch of a racial eugenics group headquartered
in Scotland. The oil billionaire Hunt brothers and Senator Jesse Helms
are members of this group. It was headed by Robert Gayre, who published
the racialist Mankind Quarterly until Roger Pearson took it over in
1978." 53.

"For an overview on 'race and intelligence,' Murray and Herrnstein
recommend two books by three Pioneer Fund recipients: Audrey Shuey,
Frank C. J. McGurk, and R. Travis Osborne. McGurk is the main authority
they cite to 'prove' that IQ tests are not racially biased.

He was one of the 'scientific' mainstays of the segregationist movement
in the southern US. In 1959 McGurk and Shuey became leading members of
the International Association for the Advancement of Ethnology and
Eugenics, first publisher of Mankind Quarterly. Other members included
Senator Jesse Helms and the oil billionaire Hunt brothers." 54.
Carroll Quigley's Anglo-American Establishment identifies the Cliveden
Set as the British elites who later formed the Rhodes-Milner Round
Table. Cliveden was the home of Lord Astor, a decisive voice in the
Milner Group:

"During this period of almost sixty years [1889-1940], this society has
been called by various names. During the first decade or so it was
called 'the secret society of Cecil Rhodes' or 'the dream of Cecil
Rhodes.' In the second and third decades of its existence it was known
as Milner's Kindergarten' (1901-1910) and as 'the Round Table Group.'
Since 1920 it has been called by various names, depending on which phase
of its activities was being examined. It has been called 'The Times
Crowd,' 'the Rhodes crowd,' the 'Chatham House crowd,' the 'All Soul's
group,' and the 'Cliveden set'. . ." 55.

The late Walter Lippmann was not only a member of the Mont Pelerin
Society and of the Council on Foreign Relations, but also of the
American Round Table. Walter Lippmann, George Louis Beer, Frank
Aydetlotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Green, Erwin
D. Canham were part of the American delegation to the Paris Peace
Conference of 1919 after which they founded the CFR with members of the
British Round Table. 56.

Thomas Lamont was chairman of the Anglophile J.P. Morgan & Co. In 1926,
Lamont secured a $100 million loan for Mussolini, whose success as
fascist dictator of Italy and aggression against Ethiopia would inspire
Adolf Hitler. 57.

"The Morgan partners subscribed to an idea expressed by Walter Lippmann
in 1915 that U.S. foreign policy would experience a 'crowning disaster'
if uninformed by a 'vision of the Anglo-American future.'" Quigley
acknowledged the Round Table's appeasement policy dating back to the
Treaty of Versailles:

"Those who are familiar with the activities of the 'Cliveden Set' in the
1930s have generally felt that the appeasement policy associated with
that group was a manifestation of the period after 1934 only. This is
quite mistaken. The Milner Group, which was the reality behind the
phantom-like Cliveden Set, began their program of appeasement and
revision of the [peace] settlement as early as 1919." 58.

The Order of St. Lazarus

Jesse Helms is also linked with the Knights of the Military and
Hospitaller Order of St. Lazarus of Jerusalem, which was founded in
Britain by Robert Gayre (publisher of the racialist Mankind Quarterly
before Roger Pearson). The Order of St. Lazarus was also established in
the U.S. by Lord Malcolm Douglas of the Cliveden Set:
"In the 1960s, a Briton named Robert Gayre had succeeded in founding a
branch of the Order [of St. Lazarus] in Grea

Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

[flw]

-Caveat Lector-

>
> I agree that the theocratic state is archaic anathema
>
> can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
> define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
> Muslims, than Muslims?
>
> as I stated last time I asked this unanswered question, I dont know any
> Israelis, who dont want a multicultural state.

I think you miss the basic point. Israel holds itself out as the sole "democratic"
state in the Middle East. That is often the justification provided why the US
has a special obligation to Israel...why it sends Israel the bulk of its foreign
aid, etc.

A theocratic state is incompatible with a democratic state.

You may not personally know any Israelis who don't want a multicultural
state, but you are clueless if you are not aware that a significant segment of
Israeli society is opposed to a multicultural state and insist on a theocratically
"pure" state. If you poll most of the so called "settlers" on that issue you will
quickly learn that they are absolutely opposed to a multicultural state and if
they had their way would deport all non Jews from Israel - or at the very least
would deny them citizenship (after all, they still need cheap labor).
flw

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[CTRL] Court Affadavit: Chuck Schlund vs. U.S.A. [Pt. 1]

[Martin F. Abernathy]

-Caveat Lector-

[The following court affadavit was sent to me by Chuck Schlund. His constant torture
 due to the implanted microchips that were injected into him by the DEA has made it
 extremely difficult for him to write this document; as a result, there are many 
errors
 in spelling and grammar. Although I have corrected *some* of these errors, in 
order to
 make this document available to the public as quickly as possible, I decided not 
to try
 to correct all of the errors -- it simply would have taken to long.

 An abbreviated version of this afadavit was posted to several websites recently.
 This is the first time that the *entire* document is being made available to the
 public.]

 Martin F. Abernathy -- [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Bronx, NY -- August 13, 2001

 =

 The following is my affidavit before the courts including the United States
 Supreme Court. The courts are bought and paid for for the most part and I had no
 chance of them ever hearing my case and my case was to prove this to those
 watching like the FBI.

 Charles August Schlund, III
  N. XXth Drive
 Glendale, AZ 85XXX
 (602) XXX-
 Plaintiff in Pro Per

 Randy D. Lang
 X North XX Drive, Suite XXX
 Phoenix, Arizona 85XXX
 (602) XXX-
 Plaintiff in Pro Per

 IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS

 IN AND FOR THE 9TH CIRCUIT

 9th Cir. App. Case No.00-15126
 CHARLES AUGUST SCHLUND, III )
 an individual, et al,
 Case No: CIV98-1875PHX ROS, reassigned to RCB

 Plaintiffs/Appellants, DECLARATION OF CHARLES A.SCHLUND, III IN SUPPORT OF
 HIS NOTICE AND MOTION FOR ORDER TO AUGMENT RECORD.

 vs.

 THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, STATE OF ARIZONA,
 County of Maricopa et al.,Defendants/Appellees.

 I, Charles Schlund, III, declare: The facts herein are of my own personal
 knowledge and belief, and if called to testify concerning such matters, I could
 and would do so competently. As to those facts pled on information and belief,
 I believe such matters to be true on such information and believe, as follows:
 Charles August Schlund, III ("Appellant"), pursuant to his reservation of
 rights, as set forth in the Motion for Reconsideration and Supplementals
 therewith, dated Sept. 14, 1999 (Excerpt No. F), which are incorporated herein
 by this reference for further clarification on the issues of fact as set forth
 herein.

 OVERVIEW:

 First of all, I have never pled in my Complaint any assertions whatsoever about
 mental telepathy, despite the United States District Court tries to erroneously
 compare my case with others strictly involving mental telepathy (i.e. Doran).
 Because of this erroneous understanding by the Court of the nature and context
 of my allegations in my Complaint, I believe it necessary to set forth the
 following to clarify the facts to assist the Honorable 9th Circuit Court of
 Appeals, who will now review this matter as follows.

 I would like to inform the Court of the facts involved in this case. These
 facts are quite unbelievable, but this has nothing to do with their truthfulness
 or accuracy. We believe we will be well prepared to prove our case to a jury
 when this case comes to trial. I would like to use what U.S. Supreme Court
 Justice Felix Frankfurter's reply to a eyewitness's description of Auschwitz in
 1943. We believe this is a good example of how good men refuse to believe the
 truth when the acts of their fellow men are so hideous and outrageous.
 "I know that you believe what you are telling me is the truth but I cannot
 believe it.? U.S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter's reply to a
 eyewitness's description of Auschwitz in 1943.

 I'm going to try to explain how the DEA has framed me as a drug dealer to cover
 up their covert operations against the American people and me. This is a very
 long story and I'm mostly disabled from the torture and control modes that the
 DEA is currently using against me with the electronic implants that the DEA
 injected into both sides of my neck in about 1993.

 My health is failing slowly from the continual torture by the DEA. The DEA is
 systematically murdering me in the most satanic ways possible with technology,
 including but not limited to electronic implants. These were injected into both
 sides of my neck. The injection of these implants was and is a covert operation
 by the DEA to cover up their criminal actions by removing me as a witness
 against the DEA and others. The injection of these devices into my neck is and
 always was an attempt by the DEA to deprive me of my Civil Rights, Human Rights,
 Constitutional Rights and God given Rights. These implants were designed by the
 CIA to remove political witnesses and other thre

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists

[thew]

-Caveat Lector-

a few points if I can try to extract anything from aleisha's post (why do i
bother? i dunno) :




>
> 55 million people died...as did my father and many friends in WWII and I
> am so sick of this crap where kids are being taught of just the 6
> million, like the 600?

who ever denied that 50+ million people died in the war?



it wasn't even only Jews murdered in concentration camps, there were plenty
of others

but dying as a soldier is something else, and not the same as being murdered


> Tell me were any Zionists genocided by Hitler?

There were plenty of Zionists killed by the nazi's despite your repeated
rants that the nazis were a Zionist plot.

aleisha also said:

>
> Somehow the things you say do not ring truestrange most Jews I know
> keep very careful family records and as myself, can trace their family
> trees right back to the bible  when you are in the royal lines.


a) royal lines?
b) there are very few records that survived the ghettos and the camps

exactly what are you trying to say - that I'm lying about my family?

and how many Jews DO you know? do any of them speak to you willingly?

> and hey, what about the Irish - you
> want real heros the Fitzgeralds were legendary but they were also
> slaughtered and their "names blotted out of the book".yet John
> FITZGERALD Kennedy got a chunk of Runymead..and one of OUR ancestors
> signed the great Magna Carta and you ought to read that sometime.


I have read the magna carta

and I have great respect for the Irish, what's your point?


> But then they are just a handful of people while Moslems represent one
> fifth of the population in the world.


again, the point?

> No right to return without pedigree - right?   Is this why so many names
> now are taken from the bible?


no, so many names are taken from the bible, because that's the only source
for Hebrew names that exists.


>
> Religion is to me the biggest line of crap and murder in the world, when
> in the wrong hands..

and I agree religion is the most dangerous crap in the world ever, and I
dont care whose hands it is in.







Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate
William of Occam


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> From: Aleisha Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:06:38 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> One thing I do not forget, Prince Faisal (Turki, now heading up Arab
> Intelligence in USA) told us,  there were 4 of us at the table, that the
> domestic jews and moslems and christians could live in peace but the
> Zionists would not let themhis father had aa that time said He Hated
> Zionists - and Rockefeller cancelled his New York Dinner and in
> Columbus, Ohio the Mayor there chickened out but we had our dinner and a
> wonderful day.
>
> He was a handsome young gentleman and would have been the King had not a
> black from Berkley later murdered his father..
>
> The fact remains there is something rotten in Israel and they sent in a
> butcher like Jack the Ripper and a slaughterman, to finish up the
> job
>
> What is that in the bible - Barber get your razor and slaughterman get
> your weapon..keep thinking of the Zionists Psalm and rase it, rase
> it, and rase it and happy they will be when they dash the heads of
> little babies against the stones.
>
> Now if that is religion - and someone does follow this bible code taking
> names from the bible and timing their murders to same - well it is about
> time the Americans realized that had it not been for the Arabs we would
> be living in darkness and riding in horse and buggies.
>
> Somehow the things you say do not ring truestrange most jews I know
> keep very careful family records and as myself, can trace their family
> trees right back to the bible  when you are in the royal lines.
>
> 55 Million People died in that war - and hey, what about the Irish - you
> want real heros the Fitzgeralds were legendary but they were also
> slaughtered and their "names blotted out of the book".yet John
> FITZGERALD Kennedy got a chunk of Runymead..and one of OUR ancestors
> signed the great Magna Carta and you ought to read that sometime.
>
> Religion is to me the biggest line of crap and murder in the world, when
> in the wrong handsand I think in the hands of the Zionists, it is
> used for genocide and mass murder
>
> 55 million people died...as did my father and many friends in WWII and I
> am so sick of this crap where kids are being taught of just the 6
> million, like the 600?
>
> There is not to question why - there is but to do or die - like hell.
> I have a lot of unanswered questions and I know now why J Edgar Hoover
> took on the communists rather than the Ma

[CTRL] M$ plans to take over the internet

[Jeanne]

Re: [CTRL] Now Russians Predict Mid-East War Soon

[Aleisha Saba]

Well if anyone goes after those Arab Oil Fields,  they are wired and
ready to blow for it will be a cold day in hell before the Arabs let
anybody steal their oil and it is their oil and for many generations
now, we have had cheap oil until the likes of a Marc Rich comes along
(sold oil for $29 a barrel after paying $6.00 - this pig should be
slaughtered and not the Arabs who have given us cheap oil all these
years).

Saba




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RUSSIANS PREDICT REGIONAL WAR

   Secret U.S.-Israeli Planning Likely Underway

MID-EAST REALITIES © - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 8/13:
 The Israelis have been trying for years now to "reconfigure" the Middle East to 
their further advantage.  That's really what the war for Lebanon that erupted most 
fiercely in 1982 was all about; and its what the various responses to the Intifada 
have always been about as well -- most especially the disengenous "peace process" 
which has now worse than collapsed.  It's also what the taking of Orient House and 
clamping down throughout the crucial Jerusalem area is all about -- getting ready.  
And for that matter it's also what the original Camp David agreement 23 years ago with 
Egypt and all the subsequent diplomatic moves have really been about as well.
 Ariel Sharon is not the kind of man who is without strategy.  His moves are not 
without purpose.  For decades now, in various capacities, Sharon has manuevered his 
country and the region to today's situation -- no other single individual has had a 
greater influence on what has happened than he.   Sharon has not only been preparing 
Israel, and the U.S. as well, for a regional war; he is quite likely planning to 
attempt to use that war to politically "reconfigure" the region to his own lifelong 
ideological goals -- Israel in control of everything to the West of the Jordan river 
and strategically superior to all the countries of the region combined, the 
Palestinians clearly defeated and quite possibly finding themselves in control one day 
east of the Jordan, no matter what promises have been made for decades now to the 
Hashemites.
 These two articles published today from Middle East Newsline help explain what is 
likely to come at this point if the Israelis can't be stopped.  And in a few weeks the 
Washington meetings being held about the U.S.-Israeli "strategic relationship" are 
quite likely to actually be secret war planning and war coodination meetings -- 
complete of course with all kinds of deception and smokescreens.


  RUSSIA PROJECTS MIDDLE EAST WAR WITHIN SIX MONTHS

  [Middle East News Line; World Tribune - Monday, August 13, 2001]:
  MOSCOW — Russian defense officials and strategists project that an
  Arab-Israeli war could erupt in the Middle East over the next three 
to six
  months. 

  The widely-held scenario described a war that would engulf Iraq, 
Jordan,
  Lebanon and Syria, according to Middle East Newsline. The officials 
and
  strategists said Egypt could be swept into such a conflict.

  "We are moving inexorably toward a war," a senior Russian diplomat 
said.
  "Russia has tried and the United States has tried to stop this, but 
to no avail."

  Russian strategist Yevgeney Stanovsky agreed. Stanovsky, head of the
  Moscow-based Middle East Institute said a regional war is inevitable 
in wake
  of the failure of international efforts to implement a ceasefire.

  The trigger for the war could take place in September. The Russian 
analysts
  expect an Israeli offensive against the Palestinian Authority 
triggered by
  Palestinian bombings of Israeli cities. Such an offensive, they 
said, could
  prompt Egypt to direct its Third Army to enter the Sinai.

  The Third Army is scheduled to conduct an exercise near the Suez 
Canal next
  month.

  In London, the London-based Sunday Times said Egypt is considering 
sending
  its Third Army into the demilitarized Sinai peninsula. The 
newspaper, quoting a
  senior Egyptian security source, said on Sunday that Cairo would 
send in the
  

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists

[Aleisha Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

One thing I do not forget, Prince Faisal (Turki, now heading up Arab
Intelligence in USA) told us,  there were 4 of us at the table, that the
domestic jews and moslems and christians could live in peace but the
Zionists would not let themhis father had aa that time said He Hated
Zionists - and Rockefeller cancelled his New York Dinner and in
Columbus, Ohio the Mayor there chickened out but we had our dinner and a
wonderful day.

He was a handsome young gentleman and would have been the King had not a
black from Berkley later murdered his father..

The fact remains there is something rotten in Israel and they sent in a
butcher like Jack the Ripper and a slaughterman, to finish up the
job

What is that in the bible - Barber get your razor and slaughterman get
your weapon..keep thinking of the Zionists Psalm and rase it, rase
it, and rase it and happy they will be when they dash the heads of
little babies against the stones.

Now if that is religion - and someone does follow this bible code taking
names from the bible and timing their murders to same - well it is about
time the Americans realized that had it not been for the Arabs we would
be living in darkness and riding in horse and buggies.

Somehow the things you say do not ring truestrange most jews I know
keep very careful family records and as myself, can trace their family
trees right back to the bible  when you are in the royal lines.

55 Million People died in that war - and hey, what about the Irish - you
want real heros the Fitzgeralds were legendary but they were also
slaughtered and their "names blotted out of the book".yet John
FITZGERALD Kennedy got a chunk of Runymead..and one of OUR ancestors
signed the great Magna Carta and you ought to read that sometime.

Religion is to me the biggest line of crap and murder in the world, when
in the wrong handsand I think in the hands of the Zionists, it is
used for genocide and mass murder

55 million people died...as did my father and many friends in WWII and I
am so sick of this crap where kids are being taught of just the 6
million, like the 600?

There is not to question why - there is but to do or die - like hell.
I have a lot of unanswered questions and I know now why J Edgar Hoover
took on the communists rather than the Mafia for all the time, he knew
the Mafia, was not Italian

Saba

No right to return without pedigree - right?   Is this why so many names
now are taken from the bible?   Strange, the name Lazaras is in the New
Testament - yet, the Lazaras family are CFR Zionists (Fred at least of
Federated Chain).

Tell me were any Zionists genocided by Hitler?
But then they are just a handful of people while Moslems represent one
fifth of the population in the world.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists

[thew]

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As far as I can see
this is nothing but tripe
poorly prepared tripe at that.

In European Jewish communities before the war you found socialists (some of
who were indeed communists), and Zionists, often in the same family, but
they did not share the same beliefs. They had opposing answers to how to
keep the Jews from continually being killed by Christian Europe every time
there were economic woes, plagues, or the Easter holiday.

As I recall my grandmother was more of a socialist - she thought the only
thing that would save the Jews was the dissolution of nations and classes -
no nations - no reason to discriminate, etc - while my grandfather was more
of the opinion that the Jews need their own nation, and that would stop them
from being wiped out. I dont know about my grandparents on the other side of
my family
the nazi's took care of that.







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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Statement by Condit regarding the Modesto Bee editorial

[Aleisha Saba]

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I think this guy is on drugs; note on several occasions it was reported
Chandra mentioned that he did not smoke or drink.and I find it
difficult to believe he was not on something and had been for a long
long time.

Hells Angels if this be true he rode with them, introduced into this
stylish group by his chauffer the Angels run drugs, hire out for murder
and in Canada recently got into some serious trouble.
They are not exactly the type one would want to have visit your local
lounge or have for neighbors?

Dumping this watch box is what I find incredible, for the Feds already
knew he had numerous affairs but evidently when somebody reported his
ditching of same, as one would a dead body or gun, it was then reported
Chandra wore this watch.

Now stop and think about that - she wore a watch given to him, by some
other woman.

I thin the guy is a real sicko and this will be some type of defense.
If he was set up, he deserved it.the one thing he cherished was his
image - he was in love with himself..using 20 year old pictures on
his web, and his paid off reporters always referring to him as the
youthful, and handsome Gary Condit..

He is a little old man before his time for something has taken his youth
from him and certain drugs can do this.

Chandra working out?   Did he ever go to this place?   Did he pay for
the membership maybe?   Her rent was due and she was out of work - and
no doubt the airplane tickets this little creep gave to Chandra were
frequent flyer miles?

It is said a murderer always returns to the scene of his crime; and
somehow I connect that watch to Chandras demise.for the box was
dumped like a thief in the night would dump a dead body

I would want to talk to that landlord again and also to the guy who
owned the health club  -  now if she left her apartment with nothing
other than her keys, but maybe took the check with the intent to cash
same - and left riding on a motorcycle or was welcomed in to a car by a
friendly voice and a smile - well perhaps she wanted to cash this check
before she left the area?

And her ride that night would have dropped her off to do same?
Condit's birhday was April 22 or 21st as I recall - maybe she was going
to buy him a gift and changed her mind?

Further the security camera tapes?   Why bother to have them if you do
not save the tapes for at least a six month period or even up to a year
- why bother?   Did Chandra have any laundry facilities in her own
apartment or did she share in a laundry room - did she have any storage
areas and when were dumpsters emptied?

Seems like over the years Gary Condit has been stashing away some big
bucks maybe?  How much did he take in over the years in this champaign
fund from which he obviously bought the $2,500 gold bracelet and other
"gifts" .he is just as bad as Jesse Jackson living like a kept man.

Saba2

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Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

[thew]

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Sorry Pru -
Turkey is NOT an Arab state.
Turks are not Arabs.
They do not speak Arabic, they speak Turkish ( a language related to Finnish
and Hungarian).
In fact a great deal of Islamic political History deals with the struggle
between Turkish and Arab control.

SO lets try again - anyone who knows what an Arab is -:
> can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
> define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
> Muslims, than non-Muslims?

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> can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
> define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
> Muslims, than Muslims? >>
>
> You bet I can.  It's Turkey.  Turkey is a Republic.  The sole concession I
> noticed due to its larger number of Moslems was that it is against the law to
> proselytize there.  That is because any Moslem leaving the faith is to be
> killed.  So if  one entices a Moslem to become Christian, it is inviting him
> to be put to death.  Yes, the murderer would be put in jail.  The Repubic of
> Turkey does not approve of murder.  You may practice any religion you wish
> there.  You simply cannot proselytize.  Diyarbakir had at least three
> Christian churches.  All three were different Christian denominations.  Prudy
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[CTRL] AP: Security Experts Warn on Wireless

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Security Experts Warn on Wireless

By D. IAN HOPPER
AP Technology Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) - Business travelers eager to plug
their laptop computers into wireless Internet networks
cropping up at hotels, airports and coffee shops need
to be on guard: their e-mail and Web browsing can be
easily intercepted, security experts warn.

The problem, they say, is that these new networks,
which charge an hourly fee for wireless access to the
Internet, aren't protected by encryption and are
vulnerable to hackers.

``When you sit in an airport and use your laptop you
might as well be broadcasting to anyone within
listening distance,'' said Jason Sewell, a digital
forensics specialist at security firm Predictive
Systems.

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[CTRL] FC: Rand report: Facecams can thwart terrorism, install them now! (fwd)

[Yardbird]

-Caveat Lector-

[I've copied the author of the paper, a Rand analyst named John Woodward.
He is an attorney who lives in Virginia and was most recently a CIA
operations officer for 12 years, according to his bio, in addition to being
the CIA Staff Assistant to the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy at the
Pentagon. --Declan]



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Subject: Rand urges face-scanning of the masses
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 06:14:30 -0700


http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20966.html

Think tank urges face-scanning of the masses

The famous Rand Organization http://www.rand.org, a putatively non-partisan
think tank, has come out in favor of using face-scanning technology to
violate the privacy of the innocent masses in search of -- you guessed it --
terrorists and pedophiles, the two most detested fringe-groups on the
planet.

Following the regrettable inclinations of all modern governments, a recent
Rand report http://www.rand.org/publications/IP/IP209/IP209.pdf
reckons that the natural rights of the majority of ordinary, law-abiding
citizens should be sacrificed for the sacred mission of identifying and
prosecuting a mere handful of sexually perverted or homicidal lunatics.

"Biometric facial recognition can provide significant benefits to society,"
Rand says, and adds that "we should not let the fear of potential but
inchoate threats to privacy, such as super surveillance, deter us from using
facial recognition where it can produce positive benefits."

Chief among these are the detection of terrorists and pedophiles, as we
said. No matter that these sick individuals comprise a mere fraction of a
fraction of normal human beings. No matter that detecting them requires the
most outrageous government intrusions into the natural comings and goings of
millions of innocent people.

Rand's answer to serious questions of personal liberty is a few
easily-skirted regulations which ought to allay all of our concerns.

"By implementing reasonable safeguards [for government use of biometric face
scanning], we can harness its power to maximize its benefits while
minimizing the intrusion on individual privacy," the report chirps
optimistically.

Rand returns repeatedly to the controversial, and prosecutorially worthless,
use of biometric face scanning at the 2001 Super Bowl
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/16561.html.

"While facial recognition did not lead to any arrests at the Super Bowl,
there is evidence that using such a system can help deter crime. In Newham,
England, the crime rate fell after police installed 300 surveillance cameras
and incorporated facial recognition technology. While it is possible that
the criminals only shifted their efforts to other locales, crime in Newham
at least was deterred."

That's rich. So it's 'possible' that local criminals moved elsewhere, is it?
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it's certain that they did, which
implies that no one will ever be safe until every dark corner of the planet
is blanketed by high-tech cameras performing a sort of criminal triage on
all of us.

And after all, things could be worse. "The facial recognition system used at
the Super Bowl was not physically invasive or intrusive for spectators. In
fact, it was much less invasive than a metal detector at a public building
or an inauguration parade checkpoint. In this sense, facial recognition
helped to protect the privacy of individuals, who otherwise might have to
endure more individualized police attention," Rand points out.

Of course, no appeal to Fascism and Kafkaesque control would be complete
without reference to the safety of innocent children. Rand does not let us
down: "many parents would most likely feel safer knowing their children's
elementary school had a facial recognition system to ensure that convicted
child molesters were not granted access to school grounds."

It's all very popular, but immensely dangerous, thinking. Preserving
personal liberty requires that we all accept a bit of chaos, a bit of
hooliganism, a bit of risk. Yes, you or I might possibly get our heads
bashed in by brain-dead hooligans, or get blown up by terrorist bombers, and
our little lambs might get exploited by sexual sickos if we don't keep a
close eye on them. But probably not.

Surely, the suffocating, risk-free environments our governments are trying
so desperately to sell us to extend their powers of observation and control
are far more grotesque and soul-destroying than anything a terrorist or a
pedophile might ever hope to produce. ®




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[CTRL] CNN: Statement by Condit regarding the Modesto Bee editorial

[MIKE SPITZER]

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This guy has acted guilty from the begining, and still is, i.e., still
dodging questions, still misleading police, etc., etc.  This statement,
like everything else he's advanced, is so full of holeswell, talk about
cajones!   I advise not reading this if you are planning to, or have just
eaten...not indoors away from the pot, or without a barf bag handy.


_

Statement by Condit regarding the Modesto Bee editorial

August 12, 2001 Posted: 10:19 PM EDT (0219 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- California Rep. Gary Condit responded to the Modesto
Bee editorial calling for his resignation with the following statement on
Sunday:

"It is terribly unfair and disappointing that the Bee would have come to
any decision about me without first allowing the investigation to continue
and hearing what I have to say.

"My thirty years in public service should have earned me that much
consideration. The Bee's editorial, like the articles it ran and later had
to correct with false accusations about me, is another example of it
following the media frenzy in this case rather than leading, by
providing its readers with the truth.

"The Bee's conclusion that my refusal to publicly discl ose details of this
case is a violation of the public trust is an unfortunate misunderstanding
of the difference between my cooperation with the police and my
unwillingness to give in to media demands that I immediately bare all parts
of my and my family's private life.

"The Bee's taking one line of a statement from the D.C. police out of
context will not change the fact that I have provided information to those
who actually might be able to find Chandra Levy as opposed to those in the
media who do not have that responsibility.

"Finally, it is sad that the Bee did not appreciate my desire to talk and
spend some time with my wife and children before I sat down for any public
interview.

"Nevertheless, I am hopeful that my neighbors and constituents will be more
understanding of the complexities of this case and will be more respectful
of the process.

"I can only hope that they will judge me on my entire record, and that they
will wait their judgment until they have heard what I have to say, which I
plan to do very soon. In return, as I always have done, I will rely on and
live by the opinion and decision of those who I have been
honored and privileged to serve."



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[CTRL] The 21st Century's "New Idea" Candidate

[Yardbird]

Free Congress Foundation's
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August 13, 2001



The Free Congress Commentary
The 21st Century's "New Idea" Candidate
By Steve Lilienthal


Back in the early decades of the 20th Century, progressivism was considered
to be the coming political movement. In New Jersey, prominent leaders of
this movement, including a Jersey City mayor named Mark Fagan, became known
as "New Idea" Republicans. In this new century, New Jersey may once again
draw attention for becoming part of a coming movement. Only this time it is
being led  by a Gary Hart Democrat turned Republican who realizes that
conservatism not only offers `new' ideas but superior ones at that.

Former Jersey City mayor Bret Schundler's biggest test as a vote-getter
comes this fall, but his record indicates that he is up to the challenge of
waging a winning general election campaign in the Garden State. Schundler
upset Jersey City's Democratic establishment by becoming mayor. Then, he
proceeded to reduce the tax burden, reduce crime, and spur urban
revitalization. At the heart of Schundler's beliefs is that it is the people
- not bureaucrats - who should be empowered to make the choices that matter.


This Harvard educated, former Wall Street businessman had once been a
Democrat. But as he explained in a recent interview with Newark Star-Ledger
columnist John McLaughlin it "became abundantly clear to me that the core of
the Democratic Party, the groups that call the shots, had no interest in
reforming government programs, because they were largely government
employees. It seemed to me that the core interest in the Republican Party
was taxpayer interests. The Republicans were saying: `We don't mind if you
actually make the programs work as long as you don't make them more
expensive.' I could find a more appropriate home for myself in the
Republican Party."

But though Schundler may feel comfortable in the Republican Party, the
establishment that runs the GOP did not feel particularly comfortable with
him. So the Republican Party establishment  rallied around the state's
acting governor Don DiFrancesco, who replaced Christie Todd Whitman when she
became administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency.

DiFrancesco's candidacy imploded due to the news media's scrutiny of his
financial dealings. Eventually, the acting governor exited the race and
ex-U.S. Rep. Bob Franks entered. Franks had name recognition based on his
unsuccessful race against Jon Corzine in last year's U.S. Senate race and
inherited the support of the party establishment who bent the state's rules
to give his campaign more time and public money to run a primary campaign.
Franks tried presenting himself as a reformer. But he really proved to be
just another Northeastern moderate Republican more comfortable with the
status quo than really shaking things up.

Schundler prevailed because he ran on a campaign that placed trust in New
Jersey voters rather than the hew to the conventional politics favored by
the party's power brokers. Even last-minute desperation attacks by Franks
could not thwart Schundler's growing momentum. The "new idea" Republican
ended up winning the nomination in a stunning come-from-behind victory.

Now, Schundler is matched against the Democratic nominee, Woodbridge mayor
Doug McGreevey. It's McGreevey's second try. So far this summer, he's been
more interested in trying to tear down Schundler than in talking about his
own ideas about where New Jersey should be going. To his credit, Schundler
did not back down when challenged on his avowed pro-life position or his
sincere Christian faith.

Elites may disparage those beliefs, but voters usually appreciate the
sincerity with which they are held, even if they do not always share them to
the letter. They also appreciate a candidate who speaks directly to their
problems and offers ideas that can work rather than dishing out more of the
failed policies of the past. That is why a Ronald Reagan could win the
support of voters even in northeastern states.

Right now though the latest poll released last week by Quinnipiac University
shows McGreevey leading by nineteen percentage points. Schundler is not
fazed by the uphill nature of the fall campaign. After all, the polls showed
him down by 37 points against DiFrancesco and then 26 points behind Franks.


Most voters are not paying attention to the campaign yet. New Jerseyans rely
heavily on the New York and Philadelphia TV stations for their political
information. The newspapers and TV stations though tend to give the state's
politics tends to get short-shrift until the fall. There is a history of
candidates closing fast in New Jersey as exemplified by the victories of Tom
Kean (R) in the 1981 governor's race, Frank Lautenberg (D) in the 1982 U.S.
Senate race, and Christie Todd Whitman in the 1993 governor's race. The
Quinnipiac poll shows McGreevey still below the majority mark. In fact,
sizable numbers responding to the poll l

Re: [CTRL] PBS: The Death of TCP/IP - Why the Age of Internet Innocence is Over

[Tenorlove]

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Anybody who is still using an email client that is installed on their
computer (this includes AOHell), instead of web-based email (Yahoo,
Hotmail, etc.), is asking for all the headaches Microsoft and assorted
hackers can wreak upon them.

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turns on the set, I go into the other room
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[CTRL] Employees [Including Judges] find no right to privacy

[Edward Britton]

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This is funny as hell!:
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Source:
http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3APY18BQC&live=true&tagid=ZZZOMSJK30C&subheading=US

US employees find no right to privacy in cyberspace

American courts are endorsing the monitoring of workers, says Patti Waldmeir
Published: August 12 2001 20:20GMT | Last Updated: August 13 2001 15:24GMT

US courts have a message for American employees. To borrow a phrase from
Scott McNealy, the chairman of Sun Microsystems: "You have zero privacy.
Get over it."

Worried by productivity losses in a failing economy, the leaking of trade
secrets and lawsuits for discrimination, employers are doing more to
monitor the online behaviour of employees.

And the law is proving no obstacle, lawyers attending the annual American
Bar Association conference in Chicago were told last week. Courts are
endorsing even the most extreme invasions of employee privacy, ruling that
employees have no reason to expect privacy when using a work computer, even
if some personal use has been sanctioned by their boss.

Technology is rapidly out-pacing the law in this area; the privacy rights
of American employees are being determined not by courts but by software,
privacy activists say.

But now that technology has begun to touch the courts themselves, some
judges are speaking out. Last week, the chief judge of the country's
leading technology court, the Ninth Circuit US Court of Appeals in
California, confirmed that a group of judges from that court is protesting
at the monitoring of their own online activities.

In May, some senior Ninth Circuit judges ordered their staff to disable
software used to monitor the computers of about 10,000 judges and federal
employees. A panel of senior judges is to discuss the issue next month.

One of the California judges claims such monitoring violates the federal
wiretap statute. But technology and employment law experts say almost no
court agrees with him.

"It's astonishing the way the courts have deferred to employers," says
Stewart Baker, a cyber-law expert who was former general counsel of the US
National Security Agency. Even when employers have promised not to monitor
online behaviour or offered to give the employee tools to protect personal
communications, such as encryption and passwords, courts have still upheld
their right to snoop.

According to a survey by the American Management Association, the primary
reason for the intrusion is fear of lawsuits. Employers face huge potential
liability if they fail to police networks for racial or sexual jokes, or
for sexual harassment.

An AMA survey released this year showed that three-quarters of US
businesses electronically monitor employee communications. This week's
survey shows why: among employers who monitor, 68 per cent said legal
liability was the primary reason.

Employers are finding it cheap and easy to snoop - and costly not to. But
the price is paid in employee privacy, civil liberties advocates say.

So long as the employer owns the network, case law is on his side. Mr Baker
cites a recent case from Texas where a Microsoft employee sued the
corporation for breaking into his "personal store" of computer files,
arguing that by allowing him to create this "store" of password-protected
personal files Microsoft created an expectation of privacy.

The court disagreed, finding that the files were "an inherent part of the
office environment". Employees could secure their personal belongings in a
real-world locker, using their own lock, the court found. But they could
not do the equivalent on a network owned by their employer.

ABA legal experts say employers should still protect themselves by seeking
the consent of employees. And if a worker will not consent? "In the US? I'd
fire him," says Mr Baker. However, he says this approach might not work
outside America, and especially in some European countries with more
stringent employee privacy laws.

But even in the US, ABA legal experts say, employees may be able to fight
back by challenging not the monitoring, but the monitors.

If monitors go beyond the bounds of propriety, they may open a new frontier
of corporate liability. In the past, says Mr Baker, employees have
succeeded in challenging monitoring in specific circumstances, such as
security guards snooping on lavatories.

Slowly, the conventional wisdom is being challenged. Recently, a senior
federal judge in Minnesota argued that searches of computers should be
handled like other legal searches: companies should have probable cause to
snoop, searches should be limited in scope and employees should get notice
and the right to be present.

But for the moment that remains a minority view. In technology and in law,
courts and employers are saying workers have no privacy. "Get over it."

Edward   ><+>

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Re: [CTRL] [AL-AWDA] Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars?: a scholarly treatise (fwd)

[Tenorlove]

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You have to read this all the way to the end to find the qualifier
"some." My guess is that Al-Awda is counting on readers not to stay
with it, and to make the conclusion that ALL Jews are descended from
Khazars. Been tried already. BTW, for the context of the article,
here's the link to Kevin's site, from which this article was cribbed:

http://www.khazaria.com



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[CTRL] EZ: CONDIT'S "PANICKED PAY PHONE CALL"

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.etherzone.com/fahe081301.shtml


CRIMINAL FOCUS: HARD SPOTLIGHT ON CONDIT'S "PANICKED PAY PHONE CALL" FROM
LURAY, VIRGINIA

By: Todd Brendan Fahey

Just how long a healthy woman needs to go missing, before the investigation
is declared officially as being one of a criminal nature, is probably a
question the Levy family and most of America would like answered.

But as the FBI and D.C. police proceed at what appears to be a slothful
pace on this...(we can't even say "case," yet, so what do we call it?)
...mystery, and as the missing persons investigation got off to such
a shabby start, with the D.C. police not making entry into the vanished
Chandra Levy's apartment until May 11 (she vanished on May 1), it is,
again, up to the paraprofessional researcher for to do some digging.

Stewardess Anne Marie Smith, in an August 2nd appearance on CNN's Larry
King Live and elsewhere, clarifies earlier confusion, when she states that
a review of her records shows that the phone call wherein Condit stated
that he "might be in some trouble" and "might have to disappear for awhile"
came on May 10 or 11. The specific nature of that trouble seems not to
concern the Establishment media or law enforcement investigators.

Significantly, on May 17, Ms. Smith having just completed a domestic
flight, touching down in Washington D.C. on the afternoon of May 17,
attempted to call Congressman Condit "on his girly line." Mr. Condit did
not return her message until midnight, May 17, from--as has been verified
by Ms. Smith's caller ID, through phone records leaked by one in the
Washington D.C. police department, and as reported by Fox News' Rita
Cosby--a McDonald's fast-food restaurant, 709 E Main St., Luray, VA 22835;
and that when he did, stated that, "I have some business to take care of,"
but, concerning her relationship, soothed her and assured her that
everything was alright between them. (*** See below for the CNN Larry King
Live transcript of this interview.)

If paid investigators, servants of We The People and whose salaries are
paid for by us, want to find Chandra Levy, I offer the following lead:

Gary Condit, despite a meticulous voting record (insofar as being present
and casting House floor votes), missed his first-ever year 2001 vote, three
of them, on May 17. A survey of House roll call votes and of the
Congressional Record show that he was present for a procedural vote at
10:26am. He then missed three straight votes, at 11:26am, 12:32pm and
2:09pm. He then surfaces at midnight, for the midnight pay phone call to
Ms. Smith from the Luray, Virginia McDonald's.

The Levys had come to Washington D.C. on May 15th. That same day, he was
interviewed for the first time by D.C. police. The next day, the police and
the Levy parents issue a joint press conference, which sparked widespread
television and Internet exposure of Chandra Levy's photograph.

What was Condit doing in Luray, Virginia, 80 miles away from his
Adams-Morgan (Georgetown) area apartment and D.C. offices? Federal
investigators must answer this question, should they wish to have any
credibility with the American people.

It is known that the Modesto, California Democrat rarely, if ever, drives a
car, preferring to be chauffered by his staff or to hop on his Harley
Davidson; it should, therefore, at least be mentioned that there is an
airport in Luray, Virginia just a few miles from the McDonald's in
question.

Were I an FBI investigator, I would summon records of every flight entering
the Luray, Virginia airport on May 17, checking passenger manifests,
details of cargo loads, and interviewing every pilot as to the nature of
his/her touchdown at that tiny airport on that day (Media and investigators
should contact: Luray Caverns Airport; Mark Johnson Jr. Chairman, Luray
Caverns Airport Commission; 319 North Court Street Luray, Virginia 22835.
Telephone: 540-743-5684).

If Condit did not travel to Luray by light plane, then I, as an FBI
investigator, would want a complete timeline (and one corroborated
meticulously) of the whereabouts of his Washington D.C. chief of staff Mike
Dayton on May 17. Mr. Dayton is long known to be a driver for Condit in the
D.C. area, and was named last week as the Congressman's driver, when Condit
sought to ditch a watch case in Alexandria, Virginia, on June 11, just
hours before the FBI were to do a search of his boss's apartment. (The
watch itself, a gift from yet another girlfriend and one-time Condit
staffer, Joleen Argentini McKay, has not been accounted for by Condit or
investigators, prompting some to believe that it might have been lost by
Condit in a struggle with Chandra Levy.)

The significance of the phone call, from Condit to Ms. Smith, is central to
any concerted effort to find Chandra Levy. We can only hope that FBI
investigators are reviewing the complete log of all phone calls made from
that McDonald's pay phone on or about May 17 and cross-checking it in-toto
against any other Washington D.

Re: [CTRL] Something Rotten In The State Of Israel j2

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 08/08/2001 10:57:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Main Entry:Ar·ab
 Pronunciation:'ar-&b, 'er-; dial also 'A-"rab
 Function:noun
 Etymology:Middle English, from Latin Arabus, Arabs, from Greek Arab-,
 Araps
 Date:14th century
 1 a : a member of the Semitic people of the Arabian peninsula b : a member
 of an Arabic-speaking people >>

Oh goody, now tell me which country you want to discuss.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Neocolonial Invitation to a Tribal War

[Yardbird]

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Assalamu'alaikum

Commentary; Neocolonial Invitation to a Tribal War
^^
Los Angeles Times - August 13, 2001

BY Noam Chomsky

NOAM CHOMSKY, Philosopher and social critic Noam Chomsky is
author of "A New, Generation Draws the Line: Kosovo, East Timor, and
the Variable Standards, of the West" (Verso, 2000)

"What we feared has come true," Israeli sociologist Baruch
Kimmerling writes in Israel's leading newspaper. Jews and Palestinians
are "regressing to superstitious tribalism War appears an
unavoidable fate," an "evil colonial" war. This prospect is likely if
the U.S. grants tacit authorization, with grim consequences that may
reverberate far beyond.

There is, of course, no symmetry between the "ethno-national groups"
regressing to tribalism. The conflict is centered in territories that
have been under harsh military occupation since 1967. The conqueror is
a major armed power, acting with massive military, economic and
diplomatic support from the global superpower. Its subjects are alone
and defenseless, many barely surviving in miserable camps.

The cruelty of the occupation has been sharply condemned by
international and Israeli human rights groups for many years. The
purpose of the terror, economic strangulation and daily humiliation is
not obscure. It was articulated in the early years of the occupation
by Moshe Dayan, one of the Israeli leaders most sympathetic to the
Palestinian plight, who advised his Labor Party associates to tell the
Palestinians that "you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever
wishes may leave."

The Oslo "peace process" changed the modalities, but not the basic
concept. Shortly before joining the Ehud Barak government, historian
Shlomo Ben-Ami, a dove in the U.S.-Israeli spectrum, wrote that "the
Oslo agreements were founded on a neocolonialist basis." The intent
was to impose on the Palestinians "almost total dependence on Israel"
in a "colonial situation" that was to be "permanent." He soon became
the architect of the latest Barak government proposals, virtually
identical to Bill Clinton's final plan.

These proposals were highly praised in U.S. commentary; the
Palestinians and Yasser Arafat were blamed for their failure and the
subsequent violence.

That presentation "was a fraud perpetrated on Israeli ... and
international ... public opinion," Kimmerling writes accurately. He
continues that, a look at a map suffices to show that the
Clinton-Barak plans "presented to the Palestinians impossible terms."
Crucially, Israel retained "two settlement blocs that in effect cut
the West Bank into pieces." The Palestinian enclaves also are
effectively separated from the center of Palestinian life in
Jerusalem; the Gaza Strip remains isolated, its population virtually
imprisoned.

Israeli settlement in the territories doubled during the years of the
"peace process," increasing under Barak, who bequeathed the new
government of Ariel Sharon "a surprising legacy," the Israeli press
reported as the transition took place early this year: "The highest
number of housing starts in the territories" since the time when
Sharon supervised settlements in 1992, before Oslo. The facts on the
ground are the living reality for the desperate population.

The nature of permanent neo-colonial dependency was underscored by
Israel's High Court of Justice in November 1999 when it rejected yet
another Palestinian petition opposing further expansion of the
[Jewish] city of Maale Adumim established to the east of Jerusalem,
virtually partitioning the West Bank.

The court suggested that "some good for the residents of neighboring
[Palestinian villages] might spring from the economic and cultural
development" of the all-Jewish city. While they try to survive without
water to drink or fields to cultivate, the people whose lands have
been taken can enjoy the sight of the ample housing, green lawns,
swimming pools and other amenities of the heavily subsidized Israeli
settlements.

Immediately after World War II, the Geneva Conventions were adopted to
bar repetition of Nazi crimes, including transfer of population to
occupied territories or actions that harm civilians. As a so-called
high contracting party, the U.S. is obligated "to ensure respect" for
the conventions.

With Israel alone opposed, the United Nations has repeatedly declared
the conventions applicable to the occupied territories; the U.S.
abstains from these votes, unwilling to take a public stand in
violation of fundamental principles of international law, which
require it to act to prevent settlement and expropriation, attacks on
civilians with U.S.-supplied helicopters, collective punishment and
all other repressive measures used by the occupying forces. Washington
has continued to provide the means to implement these practices,
refusing even to allow observers who might reduce violence and protect
the victims.

For 25 years, there has been a near-unanimous international con

[CTRL] Fwd: JTF.ORG: How Communists Became Zionists

[Aleisha Saba]

http://www.jtf.org/communists.became.zionists.htm

Re: [CTRL] REU: Genoa Police Were Trained by Los Angeles Police Department

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 08/12/2001 5:57:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<<
 ROME (Reuters) - An elite Italian police unit which carried out a bloody
 raid against protesters at a Group of Eight summit in Genoa was trained by
 U.S. police chiefs, an Italian newspaper reported Tuesday. >>

Well that explains everything.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] &&& " You can't always get what you wan't."

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 08/12/2001 12:06:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<<
 can you name a Arab state , other than pre gulf war Iraq,  that doesn't
 define itself as an Islamic state? that doesn't give stronger rights to
 Muslims, than Muslims? >>

You bet I can.  It's Turkey.  Turkey is a Republic.  The sole concession I
noticed due to its larger number of Moslems was that it is against the law to
proselytize there.  That is because any Moslem leaving the faith is to be
killed.  So if  one entices a Moslem to become Christian, it is inviting him
to be put to death.  Yes, the murderer would be put in jail.  The Repubic of
Turkey does not approve of murder.  You may practice any religion you wish
there.  You simply cannot proselytize.  Diyarbakir had at least three
Christian churches.  All three were different Christian denominations.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Israel will always have a Yankee friend

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Israel will always have a Yankee friend

Palestinians will never receive a fair hearing in the United States. Because
no one's actually listening to their side of the argument
Special report: Israel and the Middle East

George Szamuely
Sunday August 12, 2001
The Observer

http://www.observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,535539,00.html

Thursday's suicide bomb attack in Jerusalem has pretty much ended whatever
hopes still remained for a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians.
In a sense, the 1993 Oslo accord was always a doomed enterprise, based, as
it was, on an absurd, not to say dishonest, premise, namely, that the United
States was ready to act as an honest broker between Israel and anyone else.

The United States extends a latitude to Israel it extends to no one else,
though Israel is led by Ariel Sharon, a man with a record of atrocities;
though it routinely carries out what it likes to call 'targeted
liquidations'; though it uses helicopter gunships to strafe civilians;
though it bulldozes people's homes.
Israel has never made a secret of its ultimate objective in the Middle East:
Palestinians, denied statehood other than of the most meaningless kind, are
to be put to use as a permanent source of cheap labour for the Israeli
economy. This is what motivates Israel's continued building of the
settlements. The presence of Jewish settlements in a nominal Palestinian
state will render the state a hollow shell.

Moreover, the settlements will require the permanent stationing of the
Israeli army as a protective force. Any potential Palestinian state would
have no territorial contiguity, no borders (since it would be completely
encircled by Israel), no control of border crossings and no control of air
space. Jerusalem, needless to say, is not up for discussion.

We now know that former Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, the recipient of
so much ludicrously lavish praise for his supposed courage, never had the
slightest intention of delivering a Palestinian state at Camp David last
year.

According to an article in the New York Review of Books by Robert Malley, a
member of the US negotiating team at Camp David, Barak and Clinton used the
negotiations to set a trap for the Palestinians. The talks were '"designed
to increase the pressure on the Palestinians to reach a quick agreement
while heightening the political and symbolic costs if they did not". That
the US issued the invitations despite Israel's refusal to carry out its
earlier commitments and despite Arafat's plea for additional time to prepare
only reinforced in his mind the sense of a US-Israeli conspiracy'.

In the end, Arafat went to Camp David, for not to do so would have been to
incur America's anger. Arafat did ask one thing of Clinton: that if the
negotiations failed, he would not be blamed for the failure. 'Clinton
assured Arafat on the eve of the summit,' writes Malley, 'that he would not
be blamed if the summit did not succeed. "There will be," he pledged, "no
finger-pointing."' Entirely in character, the first thing Clinton did as
soon as the Camp David talks broke down was to blame Arafat.

The US has been well aware of Israel's programme and has tacitly endorsed
it. That it violated UN Security Council Resolution 446 - the 'policy and
practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other
Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a
serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in
the Middle East' - never troubled Washington. Yet to Israel's fervent
champions in the United States, such tacit endorsement has never been
enough. As they see it, the US government is biased against the Israelis by
not allowing them to get the job done.

The Washington media exulted at Sharon's victory. Here was a strong man who
would pursue a policy towards the Palestinians so brutal that the
inhabitants of the occupied lands would have little choice but to sue for
peace or collapse into demoralised torpor.

Yet the Bush administration is going through a routine made familiar by
previous administrations. It pretends to be upset at some fresh Israeli
violation of international law and issues a mild rebuke. This, however, is
immediately supplemented by far harsher criticism of the Palestinians. When
Sharon visited Washington in June Bush praised him for showing 'a lot of
patience in the midst of casualties'. 'I understand the pressure he's
under,' he added.

Such 'understanding' is rarely, if ever, extended to Yasser Arafat. Indeed,
Bush and Sharon 'agreed' that Arafat was not making enough of an effort to
stop the attacks against Israelis. Secretary of State Colin Powell said he
was seeking a 100 per cent effort from Arafat to stop the violence. Yet
while the US demands this or that from Arafat, no comparable demands are
ever made of Israel. When Sharon told Bush that 'Israel will not negotiate
under fire and under terror', it did not occur to the President 

Re: [CTRL] Isaeli's Poisoned Water? Now A shortage and water as weapon?

[thew]

-Caveat Lector-

i love aliehas confusion here

shes confounded by the fact that jews are not a monolithic block who all
think alike controlled from some central mastermind.

i cant erase any of her stuff

its the most fascinating look into the twisted mind i have ever seen in such
detail


"It is not the function of our government to keep the
citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen
to keep the government from falling into error." Justice
Robert H. Jackson--




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> http://www.ukar.org/jewsnot1.shtml

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Re: [CTRL] NYDN: Condit Attacks Calls to Resign

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In a message dated 08/13/2001 5:30:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< This guy's audacity just keeps blowing me away!  This sick pup is a "REAL
 piece of...work!"  I wish he would just dig a hole already, and just
 get in and disappear.  Why, even looking at him makes me, quite literally,
 ill (it's getting almost as bad as when I am forced to look at a Bush
 ale!  --MS >>

Yeah, anytime the local  rags decide you're guilty, you should throw ashes
over yourself, slit your wrists and retire from public life.  Condit is not
doing anything the rest of the Congress isn't doing or hasn't done.  Remember
how long it took the Republicans to find a guy to be speaker who hadn't
cheated on his wife.  That was Hastert's real qualification.  That was after
Gingrich, Livingston and Hyde were all discovered to be wanting in those
family values they're always beating everybody over the head with, and who
knows how many they had to canvass to find Hastert.  He wasn't exactly the
most famous Republican in the House.  Even more interesting is the almost
total media silence regarding the young lady found dead in Scarborough's
office a short time ago.  Nobody seems to be asking questions about that at
all.

Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [AL-AWDA] Malcolm X - On Zionism

[thew]

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oh please

the rise of the Nation of Islam, like the rise of all movements of identity
in the 60's is what killed the coherent left in America.

here on a conspiracy list of all places it should be clear. Nothing, and I
do mean nothing, was more instrumental in KILLING the civil rights movement
than the engineered split between American Black and American Jewish
culture. As with all things ask yourself "who benefits"

before there were direct links between these 2 communities. WW2 wasn't so
far in the past that the Jewish American community had forgotten what it was
like to be the oppressed minority, the "niggers" of a place, and hadn't
started the slide to the republican right that money often brings about. In
Black communities, especially via the Baptist church, the parallels between
a)the biblical Jews being taken into slavery and their dispersal around the
world, and b) the Blacks forcible removal to America, was explicitly
understood, and used as a metaphor throughout the Black community.

It was this vital link between these 2 minority cultures, standing together,
that gave much of the strength to the civil rights movement in the 60's.
White Christian America could do no better to protect the status quo from
this liberalization than to have these 2 communities torn apart and
distrusting each other, and no one did that better than the Nation of Islam
and its vitriolic rhetoric.


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> Subject: [CTRL] [AL-AWDA] Malcolm X - On Zionism (fwd)
>
>
> ZIONIST LOGIC
> By Omowale Malcolm X Shabazz
> (Edited and Reprinted From The Egyptian Gazette - Sept. 17, 1964)
>
> The zionist armies that now occupy Palestine claim their ancient Jewish
> prophets predicted that in the "last days of this world" their own God would
> raise them up a "messiah" who would lead them to their promised land, and
> they would set up their own "divine" government in this newly-gained land,
> this "divine" government would enable them to "rule all other nations with a
> rod of iron".
>
> If the Israeli zionists believe their present occupation of Arab Palestine is
> the fulfillment of predictions made by their Jewish prophets, then they also
> religiously believe that Israel must fulfill its "divine" mission to rule all
> other nations with a rod of irons, which only means a different form of
> Iron-like rule, more firmly entrenched even, than that of the former
> European Colonial Powers.
>
> These Israeli zionists religiously believe their Jewish god has chosen them
> to replace the outdated European colonialism with a new form of colonialism,
> so well disguised that it will enable them to deceive the African masses into
> submitting willingly to their "divine" authority and guidance, without the
> African masses being aware that they are still colonized.
>
> CAMOUFLAGE
>
> The Israeli zionists are convinced they have successfully camouflaged their
> new kind of colonialism. Their colonialism appears to be more "benevolent",
> more 11 philanthropic," a system with which they rule simply by getting their
> potential victims to accept their friendly offers of economic "aid," and
> other tempting gifts, that they dangle in front of the newly-independent
> African nations, whose economics are experiencing great difficulties. During
> the 19th century when the masses here in Africa were largely illiterate it
> was easy for European imperialists to rule them with "force and fear" but in
> this present era of enlightenment the A! frican masses are awakening, and it
> is impossible to hold them in check now with the antiquated methods of the
> 19th century.
>
> The imperialists, therefore, have been compelled to devise new methods. Since
> they can no longer force or frighten the masses into submission, they must
> devise modern methods that will enable them to manoeuvre the African masses
> into willing submission.
>
> The modern 20th century weapon of neo-imperialism is Dollarism! The zionists
> have mastered the science of dollarism: the ability to come posing as a
> friend and benefactor, bearing gifts and all other forms of economic aid and
> offers of technical assistance. Thus, the power and influence of zionists
> Israel in many of the newly "Independent" African nations has fast-become
> even more unshakeable than that of the 10th century European colonialists...
> and this new kind of zionist colonialism differs only in form and method,
> but never in motive or objective.
>
> At the close of the 19th century when European imperialists wisely foresaw
> that the awakening masses of Africa would not submit to their old method of
> ruling through fo

Re: [CTRL] Spy Secrets of the CIA

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< On May 1, 1960, U.S. pilot Francis Gary Powers took off from an air base in
 Pakistan in his high-flying U-2B spy plane on a mission that would have
 carried him across nearly 3,000 miles of the Soviet Union to a landing in
 Norway. He never got there. Downed by a Soviet missile, he was captured and
 convicted on spying charges by a Soviet court. >>

Can anyone confirm this Pakistan thing.  I'm pretty certain that Powers took
off from Incirlik AB in Turkey.  This is very curious.  Prudy

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[CTRL] [AL-AWDA] Malcolm X - On Zionism (fwd)

[Yardbird]

ZIONIST LOGIC
By Omowale Malcolm X Shabazz
(Edited and Reprinted From The Egyptian Gazette - Sept. 17, 1964)

The zionist armies that now occupy Palestine claim their ancient Jewish 
prophets predicted that in the "last days of this world" their own God would 
raise them up a "messiah" who would lead them to their promised land, and 
they would set up their own "divine" government in this newly-gained land, 
this "divine" government would enable them to "rule all other nations with a 
rod of iron".

If the Israeli zionists believe their present occupation of Arab Palestine is 
the fulfillment of predictions made by their Jewish prophets, then they also 
religiously believe that Israel must fulfill its "divine" mission to rule all 
other nations with a rod of irons, which only means a different form of 
Iron-like rule, more firmly entrenched even, than that of the former
European Colonial Powers.

These Israeli zionists religiously believe their Jewish god has chosen them 
to replace the outdated European colonialism with a new form of colonialism, 
so well disguised that it will enable them to deceive the African masses into 
submitting willingly to their "divine" authority and guidance, without the 
African masses being aware that they are still colonized.

CAMOUFLAGE

The Israeli zionists are convinced they have successfully camouflaged their 
new kind of colonialism. Their colonialism appears to be more "benevolent", 
more 11 philanthropic," a system with which they rule simply by getting their 
potential victims to accept their friendly offers of economic "aid," and 
other tempting gifts, that they dangle in front of the newly-independent 
African nations, whose economics are experiencing great difficulties. During 
the 19th century when the masses here in Africa were largely illiterate it 
was easy for European imperialists to rule them with "force and fear" but in 
this present era of enlightenment the A! frican masses are awakening, and it 
is impossible to hold them in check now with the antiquated methods of the 
19th century.

The imperialists, therefore, have been compelled to devise new methods. Since 
they can no longer force or frighten the masses into submission, they must 
devise modern methods that will enable them to manoeuvre the African masses
into willing submission.

The modern 20th century weapon of neo-imperialism is Dollarism! The zionists 
have mastered the science of dollarism: the ability to come posing as a 
friend and benefactor, bearing gifts and all other forms of economic aid and 
offers of technical assistance. Thus, the power and influence of zionists 
Israel in many of the newly "Independent" African nations has fast-become 
even more unshakeable than that of the 10th century European colonialists...  
and this new kind of zionist colonialism differs only in form and method,
but never in motive or objective.

At the close of the 19th century when European imperialists wisely foresaw 
that the awakening masses of Africa would not submit to their old method of 
ruling through force and fears these ever-scheming imperialists had to create 
a "new weapon," and to find a "new base for that weapon.

DOLLARISM

The number one weapon of 20th century imperialism is zionist-Dollarism, and 
one of the main bases for this weapon is zionist Israel. The ever-scheming 
European imperialists wisely placed Israel where she could geographically 
divide the Arab world, infiltrate and sow the seed of disension among African 
leaders and also divide the Africans against the Asians.

Zionist Israel's occupation of Arab Palestine has forced the Arab world to 
waste billions of precious dollars on armaments making it impossible for 
these newly independent Arab nations to concentrate on strengthening the 
economies of their countries and elevate the living standard of their people.

And the continued low standard! of living in the Arab world has been 
skillfully used by the zionist propagandists to make it appear to the 
Africans that the Arab leaders are not intellectually or technically 
qualified to lift the living standard of their people... thus, indirectly 
"enducing" Africans to turn away from the Arabs and towards the Israelis for 
teachers and technical assistance.

"They cripple the bird's wing, and then condemn it for not flying as fast as 
they."

The imperialists always make themselves look good, but it is only because
they are competing against economic cripples newly independent countries
whose economics are actually crippled by the zionist-capitalist
conspiracy
They can't stand against fair competition, thus they dread Gamal Abdul
Nasser's call for African-Arab Unity under Socialism.

MESSIAH?

If the "religious" claim of the zionists is true that they were to be led to 
the promised land by their messiah, and Israel's present occupation of Arab 
Palestine is the fulfillment of that prophesy: where is their messiah whom 
their prophets said would get the credit for leading the

[CTRL] Spy Secrets of the CIA

[Dale Stonehouse]

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Spy Secrets of the CIA
March, 2001

The agency's secret museum is a spymaster's dream. You can't get in for a
tour but we did.

By Hank Schlesinger
Photography By John B. Carnett

At the end of an ordinary tree-lined road in Langley, Virginia, beyond
multiple security checkpoints, is the George Bush Center for Intelligence,
headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency. This is the nexus of
America's expansive intelligence network. Information transmitted to the
facility here is poured over and analyzed by agency officials. Given the
necessarily secretive nature of the agency, it's surprising to find a museum
on the premises. Not surprisingly, the museum is not open to the general
public, but Popular Science got a sneak peek inside-under escort, of course.

Right now the museum is presenting two exhibits. One comes from H. Keith
Melton, a private collector of espionage artifacts and author of The
Ultimate Spy. The second exhibit traces the agency's history from its
beginnings as the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in the second World War
through the Cold War.

"We're an organization that is 50 years old," says exhibit center curator
Toni Hiley. "We have young people coming onboard and, like a lot of young
people, they may not know their history from 50 years ago."

Perhaps just as important, the museum displays the agency's technological
legacy as well as that of its allies and enemies. The fictional gadgets of
007 are entertaining and perhaps even offer inspiration to the secret-gadget
makers, but the real thing has to be field-tested, as an agent's life may
depend on it. Here is a sampling of what really worked.

U-2 Spy Flights

On May 1, 1960, U.S. pilot Francis Gary Powers took off from an air base in
Pakistan in his high-flying U-2B spy plane on a mission that would have
carried him across nearly 3,000 miles of the Soviet Union to a landing in
Norway. He never got there. Downed by a Soviet missile, he was captured and
convicted on spying charges by a Soviet court.

Initiated in the mid-1950s and built by Lockheed's Skunk Works, the first
generation of U-2 spy planes was said to have a top altitude of more than
70,000 feet. Because of the extreme altitude, U-2 pilots wore
first-generation pressure suits. The suit, film, and helmet exhibited are
similar to what Powers wore on his ill-fated mission.

A World War II American pilot on a vital mission has been shot down behind
enemy lines. At that time, the United States could build planes faster than
pilots could be trained, so it was essential that any downed pilot try to
evade capture and that any captured pilot try to escape. To assist them, the
OSS created several covert compasses and maps. Compasses were hidden in
buttons, belt buckles, and even a pencil clip. Maps were concealed inside
playing cards and even on garments. A map printed on silk not only provided
accurate readings for escaping aviators but also could also be folded and
unfolded silently.

Spy Shopper

With American ingenuity turning out an ever more expanding array of
specialized cameras, weaponry, and concealment devices, intelligence
officers were finally able to pick the right tool for any specific job. But
the organization needed to keep intelligence officers-particularly those
thousands of miles from Washington-up to date on the latest advances. The
OSS looked to the Sears & Roebuck model of shopping, creating a catalog of
the latest gear for the well-equipped spy. The first catalog was issued in
July 1944, and included pictures, descriptions, and instructions for each
item.

Microdots

A favorite device of classic espionage movies and books, microdots did in
fact exist and were perhaps one of the most insidious means of transporting
stolen information. Vast quantities of data could be shrunk down to
virtually undetectable size.

Microdots were used during the Cold War on both sides, as this miniature
camera attests. The camera itself was small enough to be easily hidden. Two
favorite locations for hiding a microdot were behind postage stamps or
between the narrow layers of a postcard. In this way, ordinary mail became a
favored, nearly foolproof means of transporting the most secret of messages.


Hidden Camera

The KGB surveillance workhorse for the Cold War was the famed F-21 camera.
Originally introduced into service in 1948, the F-21 was in wide use by the
2nd and 7th Directorates of the KGB until the 1980s. The F-21 used a
spring-driven motor to advance the film after each shot. Measuring
approximately 3 inches by 2 inches and featuring a 28mm lens, the camera
could shoot as many as 100 frames by utilizing special ultrathin film. Its
size made it ideal for covert photo-graphy. By using a body harness and a
remote hand

[CTRL] DUSN: UniSci: Plausible Biological Cause For Major Climate Events

[MIKE SPITZER]

-Caveat Lector-

High-resolution color photos of moss and lichen are available at the below
URL.  --MS





http://unisci.com/stories/20013/0810011.htm



Plausible Biological Causes For Major Climate Events

By Barbara K. Kennedy
Daily University Science News
Aug 10 2001

Plausible Biological Cause For Major Climate Events

The largest genetic study ever performed to learn when land plants and
fungi first appeared on the Earth has revealed a plausible biological cause
for two major climate events.

Those events are the Snowball Earth eras, when ice periodically covered the
globe, and the era called the Cambrian Explosion, which produced the first
fossils of almost all major categories of animals living today.

According to the authors of the study, published in today's issue of
Science, plants paved the way for the evolution of land animals by
simultaneously increasing the percentage of oxygen in the Earth's
atmosphere and decreasing the percentage of carbon dioxide, a powerful
greenhouse gas.

"Our research shows that land plants and fungi evolved much earlier than
previously thought -- before the Snowball Earth and Cambrian Explosion
events -- suggesting their presence could have had a profound effect on the
climate and the evolution of life on Earth," says Blair Hedges, an
evolutionary biologist and leader of the Penn State research team that
performed the study.

The researchers found that land plants had evolved on Earth by about 700
million years ago and land fungi by about 1,300 million years ago -- much
earlier than previous estimates of around 480 million years ago, which were
based on the earliest fossils of those organisms.

Prior to this study, it was believed that Earth's landscape at that time
was covered with barren rocks harboring nothing more than some bacteria and
possibly some algae.

No undisputed fossils of the earliest land plants and fungi have been found
in rocks formed during the Precambrian period, says Hedges, possibly
because their primitive bodies were too soft to turn into fossils.

The early appearance on the land of fungi and plants suggests their
plausible role in both the mysterious lowering of the Earth's surface
temperature during the series of Snowball Earth events roughly 750 million
to 580 million years ago and the sudden appearance of many new species of
fossil animals during the Cambrian Explosion era roughly 530 million years
ago.

"Both the lowering of the Earth's surface temperature and the evolution of
many new types of animals could result from a decrease in atmospheric
carbon dioxide and a rise in oxygen caused by the presence on land of
lichen fungi and plants at this time, which our research suggests," Hedges
says.

"An increase in land plant abundance may have occurred at the time just
before the period known as the Cambrian Explosion, when the next Snowball
Earth period failed to occur because temperatures did not get quite cold
enough," Hedges says. "The plants conceivably boosted oxygen levels in the
atmosphere high enough for animals to develop skeletons, grow larger, and
diversify."

Lichens are believed to have been the first fungi to team up with
photosynthesizing organisms such as cyanobacteria and green algae. Lichens
can live without rain for months, providing protection for
photosynthesizing organisms, which produce oxygen and release it into the
atmosphere.

The researchers suggest that the pioneer lichen fungi, which produce acids
strong enough to dissolve rocks, also could have helped to reduce carbon
dioxide. When washed away by rainwater, the calcium released from the
lichen-encrusted rocks eventually forms calcium carbonate limestone in the
ocean, preventing the carbon atoms from forming the greenhouse gas, carbon
dioxide, in the atmosphere.

Land plants also can lower levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. They
have molecules called lignins, which contain carbon but do not readily
decompose. After the plant dies, some of its carbon remains locked up in
the lignins and can become buried in the Earth through geologic processes,
preventing those carbon atoms from returning to the atmosphere and
effectively lowering atmospheric carbon dioxide.

"The Earth cools when you take away carbon dioxide," Hedges says. "Other
factors such as the location of the continents may have had some effect in
cooling the atmosphere and creating periods of Snowball Earth, but I
suspect the biggest cooling effect came from the reduction of carbon
dioxide in the atmosphere by fungi and plants, which we have shown were
living on the land at that time."

Fossil fuels such as coal and oil are made from plant material containing
carbon that was taken out of the atmosphere and buried in swamps millions
of years ago. Releasing those same carbon atoms back into the atmosphere by
burning fossil fuels appears to be causing the Earth to get warmer again,
according to many studies.

Hedges and his research team made their surprising discoveri

[CTRL] NYDN: Condit Attacks Calls to Resign

[MIKE SPITZER]

-Caveat Lector-

This guy's audacity just keeps blowing me away!  This sick pup is a "REAL
piece of...work!"  I wish he would just dig a hole already, and just
get in and disappear.  Why, even looking at him makes me, quite literally,
ill (it's getting almost as bad as when I am forced to look at a Bush
ale!  --MS



___



Condit Attacks Calls to Resign

By KENNETH R.  BAZINET

New York Daily News
Washington Bureau


WASHINGTON - Rep. Gary Condit lashed out yesterday after the two biggest
papers in his home district - the Modesto Bee and the Fresno Bee - called
on him to resign.

The beleaguered congressman charged he had been treated unfairly - and
indicated he planned to speak out publicly in the near future about the
Chandra Levy story.

"It is terribly unfair and disappointing that the Bee would have come to
any decision about me without first allowing the investigation to
continue, and hearing what I have to say," Condit said.

He said he hoped constituents would reserve judgment "until they have
heard what I have to say, which I plan to do very soon." The Modesto Bee
and its sister paper, The Fresno Bee, both urged in their editorials
yesterday that Condit step down, accusing him of violating the public
trust by not being up-front with what he knew about his missing lover.

"His behavior since Chandra Levy disappeared more than three months ago
has been abhorrent," the Modesto Bee said in its Sunday editions.
"Condit has offered no explanation, no defense, no remorse.  While
showing little concern for the missing former intern, he has spun,
stalled and stonewalled.  "Too much has happened - and not happened -
this year for him to remain this region's congressman.

"Resignation is the proper course because Condit has irrevocably
violated the public trust.  He has abused his office, deceived his
constituents and given Congress another black eye." The Fresno Bee
published its own equally frank editorial yesterday, calling for Condit
to resign.  Both the Modesto and the Fresno Bee are owned by the
McClatchy newspaper chain.

"Throughout the much-publicized disappearance of Chandra Levy, we have
attempted to give Condit the benefit of the doubt while urging him to
speak publicly in detail about his involvement," it said.
"He has refused to do that, even while disturbing details about his
conduct became public.

"Even with a young woman's life at stake, Condit chose to protect his
political career rather than help find a woman he claimed to be a
friend.  When decency was called for, Condit failed." In his reply,
Condit charged that he had not been given a fair chance to be heard by
the Bee's editorial board.

"My 30 years in public service should have earned me that much
consideration," he said.  "The Bee's conclusion, that my refusal to
publicly disclose details of this case is a violation of the public
trust, is an unfortunate misunderstanding of the difference between my
cooperation with the police and my unwillingness to give in to media
demands that I immediately bear all parts of my and my family's private
life."


Original Publication Date: 8/13/01



 Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT

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 August 20, 2001
Impeach the Supremes
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August 20, 2001

Impeach the Supremes

by David Sarasohn


Some people just don't believe in getting over it.


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In June, Charles Porter, 82--who left the House of Representatives just as
George W. Bush was entering prep school--proposed a resolution to the
Oregon Democratic Party calling for the impeachment of the five Supreme
Court Justices who awarded the White House to Bush. The party wouldn't go
quite that far. But it did officially resolve: "The Democratic Party of
Oregon supports the immediate investigation of the behavior of the US
Supreme Court Justices Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, William
Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, for decisions in December
that led to Americans being denied their right to choose a President of the
United States."

The Oregonians, the first (and so far only) state party to make such a
statement, then bannered the resolution on their website (www.dpo.org).
"I've got to tell you, I'm surprised," says Oregon state Democratic
chairman Jim Edmunson. "There's been a large amount of interest. We've had
e-mail, letters, contributions from people all over the country. It's like
the movie Network: 'I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it
anymore.'" The Oregon Democrats' website now includes hundreds of letters
seconding their resolution, people writing "thank God some Democrats found
some cojones" and, of course, "I refuse to get over it."

Paul Behrenndt, Democratic chairman of neighboring Washington, has sent the
resolution around to other states. The Democratic committee of Ocean
County, New Jersey, has posted the resolution on its website, as has
Democrats.com, an organization of 25,000 party activists.

Where there hasn't been a response, concedes Edmunson, has been from any
member of Congress. "The silence is deafening," he says. "The only people
who haven't responded are the people who could do something about it."
Edmunson's own Democratic Congressman, Peter DeFazio, former chairman of
the House Progressive Caucus, sympathizes with the resolution but isn't
about to go leaping to his feet in the House. "The Supreme Court is
political. It's not a long stretch to see that they made a political
decision. There are a number of right-wing political hacks who have been
named to the Court, and they made a bad decision," says DeFazio. But, he
says, "I can assure you that [House Speaker] Dennis Hastert, who won't even
consider my proposal for a bipartisan commission to consider election
reform, is not about to sanction a resolution to investigate the Supreme
Court."

One prominent figure in the 2000 election--the one who finished third--also
has doubts about an investigation. "They wouldn't be able to get across the
separation of powers," says Ralph Nader. "The Court is not going to address
subpoenas."

Still, even if it's unlikely that George W. Bush's White House will be
repossessed, there are indications--for example, the attention paid to
recent books on the Court's action by Vincent Bugliosi (based on an article
in The Nation) and Alan Dershowitz, and an article in the Yale Law
Journal--that the election that wouldn't end might still be alive in 2002,
and even 2004. Stirring up the troops, instead of setting off a
constitutional crisis, seems to be about what Edmunson expects. "This was
just a glorious middle finger in the wind," says Edmunson. "The best thing
you can do with your middle finger sometimes is poke someone in the eye
with it."


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