[CTRL] Researchers Already Whining for MORE Stem Cell Lines
Title: Re: [CTRL] Researchers Already Whining for MORE Stem Cell Lines You did not say racial minorities but minority only. Could be from ethnic or political reasons that one is a minority.But as I said, I am learning daily from some on this very list how this applies. I was using irony on the plight of those sentenced to capital punishment, which BTW, I do not support. I see it was lost on you as was most of what I said.When calculators first cam out, I bought a nice one, Texas Instruments, for $75.Everybody is aware that SOME technology becomes cheaper and that is a general rule but it does not apply to health care for that only increases. The cost of some basic drugs has lowered but not the majority of health care. Check it out for that is how the majority of my family earns their living and each year, costs are higher, not less. eve on older technology and very basic stuff. Compare and contrast the cost of something so old as an EEG, the technology for which has been around for decades. It is NOT cheaper. Health care is so labor intensive that costs are not likely to decrease. I made my point perfectly clear. How can people adopt minority babies as you suggest pro-life people should be doing when they cannot receive approval for adopting a child of ANY race? The very example that I gave as of a white adopting not one but TWO Asians but she had to go to China to do it. I have seen women in South America (white ones) who have located Hispanic babies for adoption weeping because they could not get a visa to bring them home. How many have you personally reared from such adoption?I only listen to those who walk the walk and not just talk. No, dear, I am not saying one human life form has more rights than another. Irony. NO ONE considers China an example on human rights. But neither do I think one human life form has LESS rights than another. You have your opinion and are welcome to it. I also have mine on which you commented. I was merely trying to clarify. I do not think I have succeeded for faith is a gift and many do not understand it. I have not arrived at my beliefs lightly nor without a great deal of thought and at my age, am not likely to alter them. Nor do I expect others to do so. But I do resent financing the beliefs of others but some of that is inevitable to all of us. I still resent it. ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: thew To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Researchers Already Whining for MORE Stem Cell Lines "It is not the function of our government to keep thecitizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizento keep the government from falling into error." JusticeRobert H. Jackson-- NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:08:13 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Researchers Already Whining for MORE Stem Cell Lines -Caveat Lector- Now I can remember thinking this very same way as a teenager when Roe v Wade and all of that was new but fortunately I kept thinking on the matter and got beyond the simplistic solution and hollow platitudes and TV sound-bite mantras and learned to think for myself, at least a little bit. I suppose any embryos convicted of capital offenses are subject to death penalties the same as any others. Never said cells were 'people' for people is not the issue for me but rather human life which does not have to equal 'people.' I said it was human and it was alive and it is. I do not care one bit what anyone believes I hold sacred but I do care greatly about being forced to finance the beliefs of others.I also think for myselfwe just come to different conclusions And why are we not harvesting the organs and tissue for stem cells from those sentenced to capital punishment the way that China does? We might have such a surplus considering the high number of executions here that we, too, could sell them all over the world. Look at all those healthy, young specimens! And the way we coerce them into donating blood now, although a high rate of it is contaminated--we could expand on what they are forced to donate. Are you sure you want to hold up china as an example how to behave?are you saying a collection of 100 odd undifferentiated cells has more rights than someone in prison?right to life applies to blobs of protoplasm that you need a microscope to see, but not to people who commit crimes?do you see a contradiction , the very one I mentioned, that you are railing about now?(just ion case you forgot - here it is again) I'd like to see some of these people complaining about life sacred nature do something about all the un-adopted minority babies out
[CTRL] Godwins Law
Title: Pius XII - The forgotten victims of the Holocaust Tenorlove, I think ALL name-calling is very negative and a bad thing to do. Calling people Nazis is especially offensive and not just to Jewish people. I think that is a misconception because so many of our parents fought the Nazis as did their siblings. I always remember how sad my Grandmother was on holidays, still grieving for the three sons she lost in WWII. I have listed below an article which breaks down the 'Forgotten Victims" of the Holocaust, the other 6 million non-Jewish people who died in the death camps and villages of Europe, victims not of fighting but execution. I think this is one of the more slanderous and vicious names a person can be called yet it has become very, very common. Of course Neo-Nazis exist but I do not think there is one behind every bush and I wish people would think before using that particular name because, like you, I have seen it used mostly just to silence people with whom one may not agree. For anyone curious about the other 6 million who were executed, there is an article following with some statistics on those people. Imagine calling a person a Nazi because they are blonde/blue whose Polish grandparents were Holocaust victims. It just is not a nice thing to do without absolute proof which one is not likely to obtain from an email list. Just MHO. ~Amelia~ From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Godwins law -Caveat Lector-There's a fellow on another list I subscribe to, everyone who disagreeswith his theories, is a Nazi. This includes Jews -- I know of 3 Jewswhom he has called Nazi and anti-Semitic. Godwin is right, but doesn'tgo far enough: on a list that is not well-established (like this one),very large (like Priory-of-Sion) or heavily moderated (like EEJH, aJewish history list), the Nazi sobriquet will ignite a flame war thatcauses the list to fold.By Jesus J. Chao 7 of 10 THE FORGOTTEN VICTIMS OF THE HOLOCAUST Ø The persecution of Catholics. Without belittling the unspeakable horrors suffered by Jews, we should not ignore the fact that millions of Catholics were also victims of the Holocaust, as were gypsies, homosexuals, and in much less scale, Orthodox and Protestants. Poland had the biggest Jewish population in Europe and was the only country where there was a mandatory death penalty for those hiding Jews. Many, who were caught sheltering Jews, were killed in a gruesome manner, such as being publicly burned as a warning to others. Although not every Catholic was a victim of the Nazis, it is certain that all the Jews were victims of Hitlers hatred. We should keep in mind the prevailing situation of complete despair throughout Europe at the beginning of the forties. The Germans already occupied Poland, France, Belgium, Holland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, and Norway; and the invasion of the Soviet Union was going on while England was being bombed daily in preparation for the eventual invasion. The United States stayed out of the war until December 7, 1941, when the Japanese attacked the American naval base in Pearl Harbor. The neutral nations, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Sweden and the Vatican, were the only temporarily remaining free territories. Without any military force, all the Pope had was his powerful moral pulpit to encounter the all powerful and victorious German troops. Although the Vatican was neutral, The Church and its flock were being brutally attacked and decimated in the Nazis occupied countries. According to historian William J. OMalley,S.J., "to the genocide of six millions Jews we have to add nine to ten millions Slavic victims (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Yugoslavs) who were eliminated-not in war, not as saboteurs, not as guerrillas, but sorely because they were Slavic." The Nazis genocide, based on race, should also include half a million gypsies who, just as the Slavs, were executed because they were not member of the superior race, the Aryans. The Nazis in Poland alone murdered more than 3 million Catholics together with over 3 million Jews. (13) About 2,800 clergymen were interned between 1940 and 1945, at Dachau, the infamous Nazi concentration camp. Among them, 2,579 were Catholic clergymen, 109 Protestants, 30 orthodox and two Moslem clergymen. The Catholics came from 38 nations; 1,780 were Polish, 447 German and Austrian, 109 Czech and Slovaks, 50 Yugoslavs, 156 French, 63 Dutch. The auxiliary Polish Bishop of Wladislava died of typhus while imprisoned at Dachau. At least 1034 died in the camp, some victims of medical experimentation by the infamous Dr. Rascher. In 1940, 800 priests died in Buchenwald, 1,200 in 1942 and 3,000 in 1943. And that was just in Buchenwald. As OMalley, pointed out, "That figure, surprising as it might be, does not include the clergy or nuns who were shot, beheaded or tortured to death in squares and
[CTRL] (Fwd) The State vs. Doctors by Congressman Ron Paul, MD
-Caveat Lector- Note: Dr. Ron Paul was the June 2001 commencement speaker at the University of Texas-Houston Medical School. The State vs. Doctors by Congressman Ron Paul, MD Being invited to address you today is indeed a particular honor for me. In seeking advice about my speech I was told to observe three things: 1.) Be brief; no one remembers graduation speeches and too often they are boring. Being brief is not the easiest request for a politician to fulfill. But I did decide not to read the 80-page speech I'd written. 2.) Be positive; don't dwell on the problems medicine faces; this is to be an upbeat event. Now that's a little more difficult for one who titles his weekly legislative report: Texas Straight Talk. 3.) Be non-controversial; well, that's just asking too much of a politician. My task today is to remark on the relationship of medicine to society from my perspective as a physician and legislator. To me this is a very interesting task, but difficult to accomplish in a short period. Before I begin, let me reassure you that I will try hard not to offend anyone, but that's probably not completely possible. If I do offend, I apologize. But you need not worry too much about a disagreement you might have with what I say, because I'm an advocate of a political philosophy that believes social and economic problems should not be solved by passing more laws and using force, but instead, solutions should come through freedom and persuasion. The same events that early on motivated me to go to medical school later motivated me to participate in politics. Clear memories of the horrors of World War II and the Korean War and the reports of loss of life of family, friends, and neighbors had an impact on me. I knew very early on I never wanted to carry a gun in a war and, with the draft in place, I realized the odds were overwhelming that I would be called up to serve. I definitely knew at an early age that I preferred a medical bag to a gun, healing to maiming, life to death. I'm sure all of your reasons to become physicians vary, but most young people deciding on the medical profession share the noble goals of promoting health, healing, and life. There are two short stories I want to tell, one medical, the other political and economic. First, when George Washington got a serious illness, the best physicians in the country were called in. Three of the best consulted and agreed that bloodletting was the treatment of choice, and the leeches were put in place. Washington's weakened condition that was the result of a serious respiratory infection promptly worsened and he soon died. (There was no malpractice lawsuit filed.) Good intentions and conventional wisdom were not helpful in saving the life of the father of our country. Medical care involves more than good intentions. Second, in 1620 the Pilgrims, under the guidance of Governor Radford, landed at Plymouth Rock. For the first two years the guiding principle was from each according to ability, to each according to need - and by force. Starvation ensued and the colony neared extinction. However, in the third year, Radford, in consultation with the adults of the community, agreed on a system of private plots and self-reliance. Results the next summer were astounding. Productivity shot up, and a community spirit of voluntary sharing replaced the harsh laws that guided the first two years. Freedom solved the problem of starvation. The second story reminds me of one of my early lectures in medical school. We were told that Kwashiorkor was the most common illness in the world, killing more persons than any other. Immediately, with delusions of grandeur, I dreamed of being the physician to find a cure for this devastating malady. But later in the lecture I learned that Kwashiorkor was a different kind of illness - it is the end result of starvation. Later it dawned on me that the solution to this problem was more political than medical. Because we in this country have enjoyed the benefits of the freest society ever known, true famine has never existed here. But a headline a few weeks ago read: Rickets on the rise in the U.S. I wondered at the time, could this be an early sign that something is wrong? Have we undergone a reversal back toward the philosophy that nearly destroyed the Plymouth colony? Currently the method of distribution of medical care in the United States is coming under attack by politicians, bureaucrats, hospitals, labs, service providers, doctors, and patients. More laws and more money are demanded from all quarters. But could it be possible that distribution of medical care is now being criticized because of a return to a system of government similar to the early rules of the Plymouth colony? Or is it possible that freedom combined with self-reliance no longer works? A basic understanding of economics helps one to understand why distribution of medical care today is becoming more difficult; quality is down while costs are
[CTRL] (Fwd) The State vs. Doctors by Congressman Ron Paul, MD
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for this lovely article. I am going to forward it to my youngest son who had his White Coat Ceremony on August 3 of this year. ~Amelia~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Destruction of America - Part I
Dear Neuromaniac or whatever: Here is someone's rendition of the life of the Illuminati as related to Jacob Schiff and most of the contributors have been labeled jewish, but I am inclined to think all those involved are not necessarily all Jewish but all are Zionists from Adolph Hitler to Jacob Schiff and strike out the crap about JFK being CFR and Illuminati for someone has added his name in error. John Birch Society few years ago apologized for reporting JFK was Illuminati, for HE WAS NOT; he was a Catholich Irish Hiberniannow when one reads this the old line comes to mind that while all Molly McGuires were Hibernians, not all Hibernians, were Mollies.. So different strokes for different folksthe Masons also have their own little daily bible reading calendar and a little black code book that I once was given to go over - but this stuff to me, is kid stuff - like buying the old code rings with a box of cereal which was popular during certain wartimes. Masonic cyphers - some omit the letter K - but every origin of any masonic order may be fund in the bible and that includes the Knights of Malta (or Melita) into which St. Paul may have been initiated? St. Paul twice was accused of being a member, by innuendo, of the Ancien Order of your Whatever Assassins? And the Knighths Templar formed a Pact with, the old Assassins. Today I believe the Ancient Order of the Assassins - the hashish eaters - lives in the form of the suicide bombers in Israel as they did in the teachings of the kamakazee pilots of Japan - for most are drugged up before they self destruct like Mission Imossible tape. Now latest big time killer was Timothy McVeigh, and a Scotsman at that which I find rather strange for someone sure got a hook into that kid..had all the markins and stripes of a Minutemanwho beat a load of fertilizer into a big bomb. With a lot of help for I doubt he ever pulled a plough. So here it is and Joshua dear - I know how very sensitive you are reading all th is stuff which might appear to be anti Jewish but then, we all cannot be Irish - can we? This is not directed at you but some of the wording has been changed in this stuff - for JFK was NEVER a member of the CFR Illuminati. So you little twerp, pull in your little horns and feel free to read all these terrible words and determine what is true and what is not ture. JFK was killed as a result of this conspiracy - rather there are those who believe JFK murdered himself - you know, like the Davidians are said to have done? One item Morgan and a few of these butchers (and I should not say that about J P Morgan, for as a Pierpont he was in our family through the women)so have fun Nueropsychotic and hope you enjoy REREADING all this material for it is legion..pull up story under Fagan, who wrote The White Rose who was in with Joseph Kennedy as a servant, not the master. Saba http://www.angelfire.com/journal/psikotiqe/nwo/pt1.html
[CTRL] Fwd: The End Days -- Catholic Prophecy and Doctrine: Mystery of Iniquity
More for Neuropsychotic - interesting item and remember I am just the messenger. O'Saba International Order of the Irish Mafia DONT TREAD ON ME YOU SOB Tribe of Dan You Find US. http://www.trance.org/essentials/apocalyps/enddays/masonry5.html
Re: [CTRL] To die for.
-Caveat Lector- Say June you mean they never got you those new shoes? Poor little thing. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Federal Research Rat Hole (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- New from JunkScience.com, http://www.junkscience.com Federal Research Rat Hole By Steven Milloy, Fox News August 17, 2001 Opponents and supporters of medical research involving embryonic stem cells may not agree on the ethics of embryo destruction, but they should be able to find common ground albeit for different reasons on another point: The federal government's role in the research should be reconsidered... The full column is at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,32304,00.html Steve Milloy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] For the Children? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- For the Children? http://www.family.org/cforum/citizenmag/webonly/A0017220.html The National Education Association says it's dedicated to educating children, so why is it so busy promoting abortion, homosexuality and a host of other liberal causes? By Dick Carpenter The teacher union boss was not happy. Bob Chase, president of the National Education Association, had invested much of his political and professional capital in advancing homosexuality through the schools. He gave a controversial keynote address at the October 2000 convention of the Gay, Lesbian, Straight Educational Network. 1 He had written a pro-gay open letter this year to U.S. Secretary of Education Rod Paige. 2 And he pushed for passage of a resolution at the NEA's annual convention in early July that would have called for the involvement of gay educators in developing educational material, and holding up gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender education employees as role models. 3 So it was a bitter pill for Chase to swallow when, in the face of mounting opposition by NEA delegates and a rally outside the convention hall sponsored by Focus on the Family and the California-based Capital Resource Institute, the contentious resolution never made it to the floor for a vote. Instead, the resolution was tabled and a task force created to explore the issue in a thorough and meaningful way. 4 Just how unhappy was Chase? According to one delegate, the NEA president pounded on the podium and said he wanted all of the picketers outside and all of the press to know that we will not back away from this issue. But if the sidetracked resolution proved to be a bitter pill, other NEA actions at the annual convention were the sugar to help the medicine go down. The NEA and Abortion Remarkably, an organization that claims to be for the children spends an inordinate amount of time off the education message, some with disastrous consequences. One of the most troubling is the union's unequivocal support of the killing of millions of unborn babies. First adopted in the mid-1980s, the NEA's Resolution I-12 supports family planning, including the right to reproductive freedom, meaning abortion. Moreover, [t]he Association urges the government to give high priority to making available all methods of family planning to women and men unable to take advantage of private facilities. 5 As if this were not bad enough, the resolution calls for such services to be provided in schools. The Association also urges the implementation of community-operated, school-based family planning clinics that will provide intensive counseling by trained personnel. 5 Some NEA members see this resolution as unconscionable, and each year they attempt to eliminate or undermine it. Such attempts are routinely shot down by NEA delegates. This year, pro-life NEA members attempted several different strategies, including the introduction of an amendment scuttling Resolution I-12 and two new business items. As in years past, their efforts were crushed. The amendment to I-12 called for the removal of the phrase reproductive freedom from the resolution. But immediately after the amendment's introduction, another delegate led the fight against it by calling for opposition to consider. NEA rules require a two-thirds majority to not consider proposed amendments, and overwhelmingly, the delegates voted not to consider it. One of the new business items called on the NEA to educate its members about the need to anesthetize pre-born children, once sensitivity to pain has been established, before an abortion procedure begins. The other item would have required the NEA to educate its members about the need for life-preserving measures to be used when a child is aborted alive. Delegates voted not to consider either item. 6 As one pro-life delegate said, It was devastating. National Everything Association And the sugar for Chase's medicine just kept coming. Delegates were given a report on the NEA's current legislative efforts, which include liberal positions on the National Endowment for the Arts, energy policy, environmental protection, fair housing, immigration, military affairs, native lands, public welfare, and trade agreements. 7 During the convention delegates also voted on nuclear relations with Russia, reparations for the descendents of slaves,8 sickle cell anemia, the 2008 Olympics,9 reinstatement of full citizenship rights for felons who complete their sentences, and President Bush's plans to deploy a national missile defense system, which they opposed. 6 The degree to which the union has strayed from education issues was not lost on delegates. One teacher from Illinois complained, We're the National Education Association not the National Everything Association. 10 New Mexico special education teacher Safi Lee Harnett agreed. There's a lot of stuff the NEA is into which we should not be involved in. Yet, into them they are. And it's a huge war chest of funds
[CTRL] World's Fastest Computer Unveiled
World's Fastest Computer Unveiled http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=technologynewsStoryID=160124 LIVERMORE, Calif. (Reuters) - A U.S. government laboratory unveiled on Wednesday the most powerful computer in the world, programmed to simulate the explosion of a nuclear bomb. ~~~ D I V E R S I O N ZA DAILY MANIFESTO OF CROSS POSTS, PLAGIARISM AND PIRATED LINKS TO NEWS, VIEWS, ISSUES AMUSEMENTS To Sign Up for Daily Updates or to Learn Morehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiversionzWeb Presencehttp://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlArchives Available http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz/messages
[CTRL] License PC Users? It's a Thought
License PC Users? It's a Thought http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46096,00.html By Michelle Delio WIREDIn a connected world, we suffer from the consequences of other people's computer ignorance. This summer, inboxes have been filled to overflowing with SirCam-infected e-mails, a hassle even if you don't click on the attachments. And well-protected networks continue to be whacked by constant scans from Code Red-infested computers. Most security experts lay the blame for the widespread virus and worm attacks on sloppy hardware and software design, and say that systems are designed with far too many unneeded fancy features intended to woo the reluctant buyer but skimp on basic "boring" security. ~~~ D I V E R S I O N ZA DAILY MANIFESTO OF CROSS POSTS, PLAGIARISM AND PIRATED LINKS TO NEWS, VIEWS, ISSUES AMUSEMENTS To Sign Up for Daily Updates or to Learn Morehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiversionzWeb Presencehttp://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlArchives Available http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz/messages
[CTRL] Racial Gang Rape: Another Diversity Disaster
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vdare.com/francis/gang_rape.htm Sam Francis Archive Racial Gangrape: Another Diversity Disaster By Sam Francis No doubt because of the influence of xenophobia and nativism in this country, America has not yet had an opportunity to welcome a new sport that the glorious multiracial diversity of the new millennium has already created. But in more cosmopolitan centers like Paris and Australia, the game is blossoming. It consists in the ritual gang rape of white women by non-white immigrants. Back in April, 11 young black males went on trial in Paris for the gang rape of a 14-year-old white girl seven years ago. Rapes happen all the time, of course, but this one was unusually notable. It turned out to be a ritual for initiation into a gang. (VDARE note: The Guardian story on this case refers to the rapists as French youths. See Peter Brimelows review of Paved with Good Intentions for a discussion of this media phenomenon.) The ritual is known as a tournante, meaning Take your turn, and it consists of a black male becoming friendly with (seducing) a white female, preferably a teenager. Once theyve become chums, the male lures the girl to a location where his buddies in the gang take their turns with her. In the case on trial in Paris, it was no fewer than 14 buddies. Unlike many victims of such fun, this young lady lodged a complaint with the police. As a result, she was gangraped a second timethis time, allegedly, by the 11 who went on trial in April. The incident is not isolated. Police investigations of similar rapes were underway in three other French cities, and one French magistrate says the game has been going on since at least the 1980s. Their technique was to pick up a young girla white girland once she had become the girlfriend of one of the members, he would allow his mates to make use of her, magistrate Sylvie Lotteau told the press last spring. (VDARE: Click here to read it in the French language. Computer translation here.) But France isnt the only nation to experience the pleasures of diversity. Reports from Australia reveal that racially motivated rapes of white women are catching on there as well. The Australian Sun-Herald reports that police data show that some 70 racially motivated rapes of young white girls, one as young as 13, by Middle Eastern immigrants have taken place in the last two years. Fifteen youths and men have so far been charged with more than 300 offenses relating to matters since mid-2000 alone. They are all of Middle Eastern extraction. None of those involved is presently before the courts. Their alleged victims have all been Caucasian, aged between 13 and 18. Unlike the French white rape sport, those in Australia dont seem to be part of a gang initiation, but they are nonetheless clearly racially driven. Before being brutalized, the Australian paper reports, other victims have reportedly been questioned about their Australian heritage or forced to endure taunts about their attackers prowess. But, like the rapes in France, those in Australia follow a similar pattern in which one non-white male becomes intimate with a white girl, whom he then delivers to his friends for sexual violation, beating and humiliation. As I remarked, these particular sports, rather like soccer a few years ago, have just not caught on in the United Statesat least not yet. But a recent report from Sacramento suggests that times are changing. There four men who are immigrants from Fiji are facing trial for kidnapping and rape as part of a gang initiation, and they are part of a group of 11 suspects facing similar charges of kidnapping and raping at least nine women, most of them prostitutes. Theres no word in the Sacramento Bee story that reported these facts as to the race of the victimsno doubt because race just isnt important, you know. (VDARE note: The Sacramento Bee did a year-long project on rape in the Sacramento area. Both their breakdown on the details of Sacramento area rapes, and their profile of a rapist avoid any mention of race, culture, or citizenship. They do use the word macho, but with reference to Americans.) And that of course is the whole point, isnt it? In the glorious diversity of the new millennium the brutal truth is that race is importantso important that non-whites who know this truth will commit rape against white women because of it. Importing millions of non-whites into what for centuries have been majority white countries doesnt diminish
[CTRL] The U.S. of e
The U.S. of e http://www.latimes.com/technology/columnists/techcol/la-66408aug16.story The feds are online, and they've got the confiscated goods--just name your price.By DAVID COLKER, LA TIMES STAFF WRITER Pssst. Want to buy a donkey? No? How about a helicopter, 3-carat diamond, pickup truck, four-bedroom house in Burbank, Lamborghini, Texas convenience store or Coast Guard cutter? D I V E R S I O N ZA DAILY MANIFESTO OF CROSS POSTS, PLAGIARISM AND PIRATED LINKS TO NEWS, VIEWS, ISSUES AMUSEMENTS To Sign Up for Daily Updates or to Learn Morehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiversionzWeb Presencehttp://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlArchives Available http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz/messagesThe U.S. of e The feds are online, and they've got the confiscated goods--just name your price.By DAVID COLKER, LA TIMES STAFF WRITER Pssst. Want to buy a donkey? No? How about a helicopter, 3-carat diamond, pickup truck, four-bedroom house in Burbank, Lamborghini, Texas convenience store or Coast Guard cutter?
[CTRL] German Zeppelin Takes to Skies
German Zeppelin Takes to Skies http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19529-2001Aug16.html By Burt HermanAssociated Press WriterBERLIN A new zeppelin that took to the skies this week over Germany carrying passengers the first commercial zeppelin flights since the Hindenburg disaster could bring new life for the spurned form of air transport. ~~~ D I V E R S I O N ZA DAILY MANIFESTO OF CROSS POSTS, PLAGIARISM AND PIRATED LINKS TO NEWS, VIEWS, ISSUES AMUSEMENTS To Sign Up for Daily Updates or to Learn Morehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiversionzWeb Presencehttp://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlArchives Available http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz/messages
[CTRL] Shakedown at the USDA
-Caveat Lector- http://www.frontpagemag.com/guestcolumnists/lubinskas08-15-01.htm Shakedown at the USDA By James Lubinskas FrontPageMagazine.com | August 15, 2001 IN DECEMBER 1996, a small group of black farmers held a demonstration outside the White House complaining about supposed discrimination in the United States Department of Agricultures (USDA) massive lending program. Blacks comprise less than one percent of the farmers in the United States, yet they account for 3.2 percent of the USDAs loans. This would suggest that the USDA, like every other government agency, bends over backwards to favor blacks. Of course, the press did not mention this in its coverage of the protest, and as a result the USDA is paying settlements to black farmers which could cost taxpayers up to $4 billion dollars.* There is no statistical evidence to support the view that the USDA discriminated against black farmers and none was even offered. Sources inside the USDA claim former President Clinton told then-Agriculture Secretary Dan Glickman to keep the black farmers out of my backyard. Glickman did as he was told, and within days announced he had discovered massive discrimination in the agency he had headed for almost two years, and that black Democrat Mike Espy had led before him. Though he offered no evidence of discrimination he set up a series of taxpayer-financed listening tours across the U.S. Not surprisingly there was no shortage of blacks ready to relate tales of how they were discriminated against and put-upon by the USDA. Some did not even allege they were denied loans, but claimed that white bureaucrats did not do enough to help turn them into productive farmers. After the listening tours Glickman ordered a review of all 956 pending discrimination complaints. The USDA spent millions of dollars to bring in field workers to review each complaint. After poring through 956 cases the workers found that only five cases had potential merit. According to USDA employees who wish to remain anonymous, the findings were suppressed, the notes were destroyed and the reviewers were accused of covering up for their colleagues. ** Not to be dissuaded by the inconvenient findings, Glickman came up with a new strategy to prove that his own agency was racist. In 1997, two black farmers in North Carolina, Cecil Brewington and Timothy Pigford, filed suits against the USDA. Pigford had already filed three claims against the USDA, none of which was found to have merit. Indeed, one of his suits had been dismissed with prejudice, which means legally he should not have been allowed to file another suit making the same charges. The complaints did not even cite any evidence of discrimination other than Glickmans own statements that his agency was rife with discrimination. The USDA did not bother to challenge the complaint and the case ended up with U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman. If Judge Friedmans name sounds familiar it should. A Clinton appointee, he presided over several politically sensitive Clinton-era cases including ones involving Charlie Trie, Maria Hsia of Buddhist-temple fund-raiser fame, Democratic fund-raiser Pauline Kanchanalak and Sidney Blumenthals slander suit against Matt Drudge. In each case, Judge Friedman ruled for the Clinton cronies and in each case a higher court reversed his ruling. In October 1998, he certified class-action status for the discrimination suit despite the fact that the statute of limitations had run out for most of the plaintiffs. The Congressional Black Caucus drafted legislation waiving the statute of limitations and it passed as an attachment to the Agriculture appropriations bill for fiscal year 1999. Interestingly no one mentioned that this is a clear violation of ex post facto laws and hence unconstitutional. In April 1999, the government and the plaintiffs entered into a consent decree approved by Judge Friedman. The process for getting compensation was ludicrously easy and essentially amounted to being black, believing you were denied a loan because of race, and having filed a discrimination complaint on or before July 1997. Incredibly, if a claimant could not produce evidence of having filed a complaint, he could prove he filed one by having a declaration from a non-family member that he did file one! Also under the consent decree, the statement of any claimant is accepted as true unless the USDA can refute it with documentation. Since the USDA only keeps records of unsuccessful loan applications for three years, there is no evidence from before 1994. Essentially, any farmer who alleges to have been denied a loan from 1981 to 1994 will be paid at least $50,000 even without evidence. Another condition in the consent decree was that the USDA had to spend
[CTRL] Vidal Hails McVeigh and to drop the other shoe
-Caveat Lector- Vidal praises Oklahoma bomber for heroic aims Writer applauds executed killer McVeigh and his Revere-like message that 'the Feds are coming' Special report: Timothy McVeigh The writer Gore Vidal yesterday compared the executed Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh to Paul Revere, the hero of American independence. In a withering address at the Edinburgh book festival, the liberal novelist and elder statesman of the Gore political dynasty, said the former soldier decorated for bravery in the Gulf war wanted to send out a warning that the government had been bought by corporate America and its secret police, the FBI, were out of control. What McVeigh was saying was, 'The Feds are coming, the Feds are coming' In his strongest identification yet with the man who confessed to blowing up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people in retaliation for the FBI's slaughter at Waco, Vidal described him as a Kipling hero with an overdeveloped sense of justice who did what he did because he was inflamed by the massacre, the FBI's subsequent cover-up, and the way it had shredded the bill of rights and the constitution. He was the man who would be king. Vidal, whom McVeigh asked to witness his execution in June after the pair corresponded for three years, insisted McVeigh did not actually carry out the bombing, and hinted he was now close to revealing the names of those who did. I am about to drop another shoe. I have been working with a researcher who knows at least five of the people involved in the making of the bomb and its detonation. It may well be that McVeigh did not do it. In fact, I am sure he didn't do it. But when he found out he was going to be the patsy, he did something psychologically very strange. He decided to grab all credit for it himself, because he had no fear of death. Vidal maintained this was because McVeigh saw himself as John Brown of Kansas, the anti-slavery campaigner who was executed after leading a raid into the south which sparked the American civil war. Vidal alleged that the FBI not only knew about the plot, it was involved in it. Having infiltrated the rightwing militia group that planned it, it did nothing because it wanted to pressure President Clinton into pushing through dracon ian anti-terrorist legislation he was refusing to sign. Within a week of the bombing, Clinton signed it for 'the protection of the state and of persons', using the exact language that Adolf Hitler used after the Reichstag fire of 1933. America was in the grip of what he called a revolution ary situation because wealth had become concentrated in the hands of only 1% of the population. The truth is that 80% are not doing well, and many of those are farmers out in the mid-west who have been driven off their land by big business. They are the backbone of the militia movement. Many of them are as crazed as you can find. But they number over 4m, 300,000 of which are active. Vidal revealed that having had his last meal of mint ice-cream with chocolate sauce, McVeigh spent his last hours watching the Coen Brothers' film Fargo on a black and white TV. It's a great film but bloody, a body is shredded and suchlike, and not quite what he wanted to see, poor fellow. He saved his greatest venom for Janet Reno, the attorney general during the 52-day Waco siege, for persecuting a perfectly harmless bunch of religious nuts and for presiding over the lies and cover-up that followed it. Her mother was a very famous alligator wrestler in Florida, a family profession she herself should have pursued. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2001 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US And Other Activists Back Palestinians
-Caveat Lector- AUGUST 17, 06:17 EDT Foreign Activists Back Palestinians By JASON KEYSER Associated Press Writer AL KHADER, West Bank (AP) - As a 13-year-old Palestinian boy bulldozed an Israeli roadblock in the center of his town, three dozen foreign sympathizers stood guard. Israeli soldiers watched from a hilltop Thursday as Sultan Khaled Mousasbiah jerked the gears of the rusting yellow bulldozer and pushed down an unmanned barrier, made of a hollowed out city bus and heaps of dirt, rock and cement. For the Palestinians of this town south of Bethlehem, it was a small victory. For the international group of demonstrators, it was mostly a symbolic one. Like the last time they helped demolish the roadblock, they understood that Israeli soldiers were likely to put it back up. Among them was Heidi Arraf, a 25-year-old Palestinian-American who moved to Jerusalem a year ago and has helped put together an umbrella group of activists called the International Solidarity Movement. The group supports Palestinians in their struggle for statehood and hopes to help end nearly 11 months of violence. ``Our governments are calling for the same thing - you must take action to end the violence. But no one is taking action. We are,'' Arraf said, using her hand to shield her eyes from the setting sun as she watched Israeli soldiers on the hillside. About 80 activists from the United States, Germany, Italy, France, England and other European countries responded to mass e-mail calls to come to the region this month to join local activists for two weeks of semi-spontaneous demonstrations. For the last two weeks they have scuffled with Israeli police who took over the unofficial Palestinian headquarters in east Jerusalem after a bloody suicide bombing attack in the Jewish section of the city, spent the night with Palestinian families in nearby Beit Jalla during firefights with Israelis and held demonstrations. As the demonstrators marched through Al Khader, a small Palestinian boy, a blue T-shirt wrapped around his head showing only eyes, ran into the street, holding a toy machine gun he made out of black tape and cardboard. Irene Siegel, 36, a student at the University of California at Berkley, expressed concern. ``Who are their role models? What do they aspire to be? Where are they going to go to get their education?'' she said. Siegel, one of 20 Americans in the group, is a Jew who came from Cairo, where she is participating in an Islamic studies program. Standing next to her was Linda Bevis, 40, a history teacher at Renton High School in Seattle. She and her husband spent a night with a Palestinian family in the divided West Bank city of Hebron, where there are almost daily exchanges of fire as Palestinians shoot at Jewish enclaves and soldiers fire back. ``At a certain point, when people are being shot and killed on a regular basis the only way to nonviolently stop it is to put your bodies in between the shooters and the people who are being shot,'' she said. After members of the group tried to act as human shields in front of Palestinians during an exchange of fire, an Israeli official wondered why they weren't protecting the Israelis. Fighting broke out last September after peace talks broke down. Israel charges that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is using the violence to try to wring further concessions out of Israel. The Palestinians counter that Israel is using excessive force. Their main argument is that Israel's 34-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is the primary cause of the violence. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Schlund Affidavit - 17/17
Because of my torture by the government I'm mentally disabled during the torture and the torture is used against me any time I try to talk or write about my case. The heavier torture has been terminated at times like when I'm on the phone. There can be no justice while one side is using torture against the other side. All of the below letters except the one about Judge Copple and Sheriff Joe Arpaio were mailed to the addressed people using certified mail. (On second thought, I will not release those two letters at this time because I never mailed them.) I wrote these letters on the dates on the letters, and I believe these letters are truthful and correct. It was not my job to prove all the information contained in these letters. I would have never released these letters if the government hadn't used torture to force me to defend my self. My only way of defending my self was to set up the people and agencies listed in the files and prove what I could to the FBI and others. I was then injected and tortured in the most satanic ways possible and I still am being tortured horribly. I wrote many of these letters under threat of death by my government and under torture. The writing of these letters was my way of fighting back against the corrupt officials that were listed in the files I read in 1977. I have mailed out 100's of copies of letters I have written. I have been writing these letters since 1991. Before 1991 it would have been impossible for me to write letters like this and live through the process. It first became possible for me to be able to write these letters when the FBI started watching and the DEA had to back off and stop controlling and torturing me. I hope these letters will help the court understand where I'm coming from. The government has refused to even answer most of the letters. I did receive one reply from civil or human rights, which informed me that they could not help me. This reply I believe was about four years ago. I would like to inform the court of what my wife told me before we were divorced. She told me that there was no way that I could win because the DEA and her had framed me so well that it would be impossible for me to win. I totally disagree. I not only believe I can win but I also believe I can stop these Human Rights Violations that are occurring under the cover of law and protect future generations of Americans. The damage to me is so bad that I cannot personally win. The FBI assured me I could win in the beginning but I told them at that time that they did not understand and that no one had ever been able to defeat the DEA in the way I was about to try. I informed the FBI and others that they could win for me. They have all been very courageous and have done great damage to the forces of evil in this battle. It is slowly becoming safe to walk down the street in the inner cities of America again. When I would inform the FBI of corruption in their ranks, they would attack that corruption. When I would inform the DEA of corruption in their ranks, they would attack me. I do not want the court to misunderstand me. Kathy, my ex-wife, is no longer directly one of them. She helped the FBI by talking to me about some things and even warned me when corrupt agents tried to get their people into the investigation to misdirect and control the investigation to discredit me. She is also under torture by the DEA as are most of my witnesses making it impossible for her or the others to talk, testify freely or even defend themselves without being tortured. She is under threat of death by the DEA who has control over the implants in her. Many of my witnesses are being controlled and tortured in the cover-up of this case. All of this is being done under the cover of law and color of authority as an investigation. All chances of any real investigation stopped when the DEA tortured my witnesses and me. An investigation is the collection of information. Torture is the infliction of pain and suffering. They are not compatible with each other and any chance of any real investigation stops when torture begins. I have taken two lie detector tests whether I'm a drug dealer and if the information is correct and I passed both Lie Detector tests. I also paid to have Dan Pomeroy take a lie detector test and he also passed. All of my witnesses are willing to take lie detector tests and all of my witnesses will pass. I have offered the DEA all of the information thousands of times and they have refused to accept the information from my witnesses and me. All of their witnesses are allowed to supply the DEA with fabricated information and commit perjury in the framing of my witnesses and me. An investigation is when you accept information and then investigate that information to find out if it is true. A cover-up is when you refuse any information and then attack and torture the people trying to supply you with the information. There is no real investigation of me but there is a massive
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Destruction of America - Part I
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: So here it is and Joshua dear - I know how very sensitive you are reading all th is stuff which might appear to be anti Jewish but then, we all cannot be Irish - can we? I'm Irish, on my father's side, and I find your posts an insult to the Irish people, Sabaor is it Max now? This is not directed at you but some of the wording has been changed in this stuff - for JFK was NEVER a member of the CFR Illuminati. The hell he wasn't... June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] To die for.
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Say June you mean they never got you those new shoes? No, and that's why my Irish grandmother always commented on my and my sister's bare feet when she came to visit...not that she ever volunteered to buy us slippers, let alone shoes... June === Check out Alternative Kite Radio at http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno.com Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (it's always summer somewhere) Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (everyday's a holiday) === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Godwins law
-Caveat Lector- Godwins lawI think this is something this list could use: Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. Hmm. Nazis have been held up us the paragon of total evil. Even more so then the Stalinist Communists (who murdered even more millions then Nazis - guess cause they were around longer). The greatest cause of unnatural death in the world in the past 100 years has been Death by Government or death by rampant statism which has literally killed 100's of millions of people. Nazism is a state of mind. Nazism occurs through incrementalism. Incremental incipient Nazism (and Stalinism) is alive and well throughout the world. As some victims of statism have proclaimed Never again. We should constantly be on the alert for incremental Nazism. What is quite disturbing is that so many today who decry historical Nazism are the same folks who encourage or favor dangerous, incremental statism...the path leading to Nazism and Stalinism. These same Nazi enablers also encourage tribalism, racialism, ethnocentrism. It is the duty of all people everywhere to be on constant alert for the insidious signs of Deadly Statism. Godwin is a foolish ass. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Godwins law
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Godwins lawI think this is something this list could use: Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. Godwin's law must have been formulated by the Nazis on Usenet who couldn't stand up under public scrutiny. -- Best wishes I think you should defend to the death their right to march, and then go down and meet them with baseball bats. -Woody Allen (Born 1935), on the KKK A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Godwins law
-Caveat Lector- its because stalin did it against his own people, which is somehow seen as more acceptable than taking it on the road but if you are looking for real killers, go no further than pol pot -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:14:44 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Godwins law Hmm. Nazis have been held up us the paragon of total evil. Even more so then the Stalinist Communists (who murdered even more millions then Nazis - guess cause they were around longer). A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NEW! PART II - WASHINGTON, E.T.- Extraterrestrial Politics Clinton White House
-Caveat Lector- NEW! PART II - WASHINGTON, E.T. - Extraterrestrial Politics in the Clinton White House (1993 - 2001) FULL STORY AT: http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews35.html Part I http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews32.html Thank you. _ EcoNews Service: Always online for Ecology, Consciousness, and Universal Exopolitics EcoNews: http://www.ecologynews.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vancouver, BC V6M1V8 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Barefoot Boy
John Greenleaf Whittier 1807-1892 THE BAREFOOT BOY Blessings on thee, little man, Barefoot boy with cheek of tan! With thy turned-up pantaloons, And thy merry whistled tunes; With thy red lip, redder still Kissed by strawberrys on the hill; With the sunshine on thy face, Through thy torn brim's jaunty grace; From my heart I give thee joy,-- I was once a barefoot boy! Prince thou art,--the grown-up man Only is republican. Let the million-dollared ride! Barefoot, trudging at his side, Thou more hast more than he can buy In the reach of ear and eye,-- Outward sunshine, inward joy: Blessings on thee, barefoot boy! Oh for boyhood's painless play, Sleep that wakes in laughing day, Health that mocks the doctor's rules, Knowledge never learned in schools, Of the wild bee's morning chase, Of the wild-flower's time and place, Fight of fowl and habitude Of the tenants of the wood; How the tortoise bears his shell, How the woodchuck digs his cell, And the ground-mole sinks his well; How the robin feeds her young, How the oriole's nest is hung, Where the whitest lilies blow, Where the freshest berries grow, Where the ground-nut trails its vine, Where the wood-grape's clusters shine; Of the black wasp's cunning way, Mason of his walls of clay, And the architectural plans Of gray hornet artisans! For, eschewing books and tasks, Nature answers all he asks; Hand in hand with her he walks, Face to face with her he talks, Part and parcel of her joy,-- Blessings on the barefoot boy! Oh for boyhood's time of June, Crowding years in one brief moon, When all things I heard or saw, Me, their master, waited for. I was rich in flowers and trees, Humming birds and honey-bees; For my sport the squirrel played, Plied the snouted mole his spade; For my taste the blackberry cone Purpled over hedge and stone; Laughed the brook for my delight Through the day and through the night, Whispering at the garden wall, Talked with me from fall to fall; Mine the sand-rimmed pickerel pond, Mine the walnut slopes beyond, Mine, on bending orchard trees, Apples of Hesperides! Still as my horizon grew, Larger grew my riches too; All the world I saw and knew Seemed a complex Chinese toy, Fashioned for a barefoot boy! Oh for festal dainties spread, Like my bowl of milk and bread; Pewter spoon and bowl of wood, On the door-stone, gray and rude! O'er me, like a regal tent, Cloudy-ribbed, the sunset bent, Purple-curtained, fringed with gold, Looped in many a wind-swung fold; While for music came the play Of the pied frogs' orchestra; And, to light the noisy choir, Lit the fly his lamp of fire, I was a monarch: pomp and joy Waited on the barefoot boy! Cheerily, then, my little man, Live and laugh, as boyhood can! Though the flinty slopes be hard, Stubble-speared the new-mown sward, Every morn shall lead thee through Fresh baptisms of the dew; Every evening from thy feet Shall the cool wind kiss the heat; All too soon these feet must hide In the prisons cells of pride, Lose the freedom of the sod, Like a colt's for work be shod, Made to tread the mills of toil, Up and down in ceaseless moil: Happy if their track be found Never on forbidden ground; Happy if they sink not in Quick and treacherous sands of sin. Ah! that thou couldst know thy joy, Ere it passes, barefoot boy! POETRY Back to Corey's Page... http://www.cs.cuc.edu/~ccottrel/bareft.html
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Destruction of America - Part I
-Caveat Lector- June come out of hiding for now we have you lurking on Conspirinoia using what name perhaps - well let someone else figure that one out. John F. Kennedy was Not Illuminati and he was NOT CFR. Period. The Bnai Brith would be more to your liking June right? Then toss in the ADL for you make such a good censor for thembut never tell me you are Irish unless you would be like Broscoe - Jewish Irish perhaps? Saba Hey Amelia - June is lurking on Conspiranoia..must be very difficult for this fat OX to wear her muzzle on that listwasn't she just tossed out or tell me is she the one sending the annon letters? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] State of Siege
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Israel beset by siege mentality
Suicide bomb attacks have affected all aspects of daily life, from running a
shop to putting on a rock concert, writes Suzanne Goldenberg in Jerusalem
Special report: Israel and the Middle East
Suzanne Goldenberg
Friday August 17, 2001
The Guardian
First it was the Red Hot Chili Peppers, next British Airways. The sense of
isolation among Israelis deepened this week as airline crews and pop stars
made it clear they do not feel safe in the Holy Land.
Many Israelis share their fears - especially this weekend. The security forces
have warned that another suicide bomber is on the loose, and will try to
strike at Jerusalem, or in northern Israel within the next day or two.
Meanwhile, the Israeli army announced this week that the violence between
Israel and the Palestinians could go on for another five years. Many Israelis
just feel safer staying at home.
After last week's bombing of a pizza restaurant in Jewish west Jerusalem
killed 15 Israelis, Tel Aviv taxi drivers are reluctant to take fares to the city.
Some Jerusalemites complain their own relatives will not come to
visit them from other Israeli towns.
In the Jewish western part of the city, restaurants, cafes - even small family-owned
chemist shops - have taken on private security guards to scrutinise customers for
suspicious looking parcels and body packs.
Some cafe owners park their own cars in front of their establishments to block the
space off from car bombers. Choosing a table has become much more complicated. In case
of attack, is it safer to sit by the window - which
is large and plate glass - or at an inside table?
Takings at shops in the centre of Jerusalem dropped by nearly 70% after the suicide
attack. Jewellers and other shops depending on tourist traffic saw their trade drop by
92%, according to the Jerusalem Merchants' Associa
tion.
Meanwhile, Jewish youth groups visiting the city from Britain had to make do with a
simulated visit to the city's pedestrian mall. Instead of roaming around the shops on
their own for T-shirts and other souvenir tat, the
shopkeepers came to the teenagers, who were safely installed in a hall on the edge of
the city. Back home, their parents received daily email reports on their activities.
Such responses to suicide bomb attacks are seen as internal, family matters. But, for
Israelis, who are acutely sensitive to their international image, it is another thing
entirely when the rest of the world begins voting
with its feet.
According to Israeli press reports this week, the appearance of the Red Hot Chili
Peppers was seen to be of such symbolic importance that the former US president Bill
Clinton was enlisted to plead with the group to conque
r their fears about suicide bombers, and keep the concert date.
However, on Monday, the group's manager called the concert off for good; the Israeli
promoters said the appearance was postponed until a later date.
A day later, there was another blow when British Airways announced that its flight
crews - like those of other European airlines - would no longer sleep in Tel Aviv, but
overnight in Athens.
Swiss Air and KLM took similar decisions last June, after a suicide bomber killed more
than 20 Israelis at a Tel Aviv disco, across the road from the high-rise hotels where
many airline crews stay. Air Canada sent its fli
ght crews to a suburb north of the city.
Israeli travel agents complained BA was surrendering to panic, and that the stayaway
would further hurt a tourist industry damaged by 11 months of violence.
The country's own national carrier, El Al, lost $83m (£57m) in the first six months of
this year, as traffic dropped by 21% from last year. Many hotels have closed off
floors, or shut down entirely.
The only people profiting from the sense of dread are the private security firms - who
say they have a crazy amount of work.
Even people who are having private parties call us up to get security services, and
this is something new, Avi Bareket, the director of one private security firm told
the Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv. Every youth recently
released from the army can find security work.
That is one piece of welcome news. The Labour ministry reported this week that the
unemployment rate in July was the highest in Israel's history, with 186,400 people out
of work.
Related articles
17.08.2001: Why Jenin's gentleman jailer lit the fuse
17.08.2001: No ban on British arms to Israel
Interactive guide
Where are the flashpoints of violence?
Useful links
Israel Defence Forces
Government of Israel
Ha'aretz
Palestinian National Authority
Palestinian ministry of information
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[CTRL] John F. Kennedy was NOT CFR Illuminati
I have he original recordings by Myron Fagan and the documents put out on the web today, are in part let us say improved upon? For Fagan knew the conspiracy behind JFK - the same secret society who murdered JFK and his family, murdered Lincoln. The John Birch Society apologized for calling JFK a member of the CFR - so check the facts June before you open your big mouth? CFR memberships - you do not find Jimmy Hoffa or JFK or Walter Ruether on any list - and my aren't they conspicuous by their absense. Ronald Reagan was never a member either and he almost - well he did make the hit list but their little programmed assassin was not too good a shot. John F. Kennedy was a patriot and a Catholic and well all know who hates the Catholics don't we - for the right wingered neo nazi literature put out about JFK being a Catholic and other hate material like the black bordered ad was put out by ADL and other jewish neo nazi groups in disguse but remember, the Walker Navy Spies got caught up using a KKK which the KGB organized specially for them. This real KKK is something the likes you will never see for they are still the invisible empire...not skin heads running the streets or like the woman involved in Oklahoma with swatstikas tattoed on her arms and ass as mode of identification who turned out to be FBI informer - for you see there is more FBI in the honey KKK, than KGB in the FBI? And I got my neo nazi literature published by local Jewish Mafia - used to - well say when they planned to castrate this black doctor but the little hitman dressed like county sheriff got carried away - did not have time to plant the neo nazi literature for they ran for their lives but still got caught and guess who got the scoop on this story? Yours truly. Saba The CFR is a branch of an international group of coconspirators called the Round Table Group. This group has been controlling public opinion throughout the world for over 100 years. Council on Foreign Relations Let's start with the smoke, and mirrors furnished by the CFR in several of their Annual Reports. Then we will provide the other-side-of-the-coin, as observed by quite a number of independent researchers, and writers. The CFR's Annual Report for July 1, 1993-June 30, 1994, page 4, states: The Council on Foreign Relations is a nonprofit, and nonpartisan membership organization dedicated to improving the understanding of US foreign policy, and international affairs through the exchange of ideas. The Council was founded in 1921 shortly after the end of World War I. Several of the American participants in the Paris Peace Conference decided that it was time for more private American citizens to become familiar with the increasing international responsibilities, and obligations of the United States. This decision led to the creation of an organization dedicated to the continuous study of US foreign policy for the benefit of both its members, and a wider audience of interested Americans. The New World Order, by Pat Robertson, Copyright 1991, by Word, Inc., Dallas, Texas. All rights reserved, page 66-67, states: This august body of 'wise men' has effectively dominated the making of foreign policy by the United States government since before World War II. The CFR has included virtually every key national security, and foreign policy adviser of this nation for the past seventy years. Page 96: In government policy, the most visible expression of the Establishment is the Council on Foreign Relations, and its publication, Foreign Affairs. Out of some twenty-nine hundred members, at least five hundred are very powerful, another five hundred are from centers of influence, and the rest are influential in academia, the media, business, and finance, the military, or government. A few are token conservatives. Page 97: According to a man who had been a member for fifteen years, Rear Admiral Chester Ward, former judge advocate general of the navy from 1956 to 1960. 'This purpose of promoting disarmament, and submergence of US sovereignty, and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government is the only objective revealed to about 95 percent of 1,551 members [in 1975]. There are two other ulterior purposes the CFR influence is being used to promote; but it is improbable that they are known to more than 75 members, or that these purposes ever have even been identified in writing.' The goals of the Establishment are somewhat strange, and we will discuss them in detail. At the central core is a belief in the superiority of their own skill to form a world system in which enlightened monopolistic capitalism can bring all of the diverse currencies, banking systems, credit, manufacturing, and raw materials into one government-supervised whole, policed of course by their own world army. (Could this be the army of the United Nations?) CFR membership is made up of present, and past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers,
[CTRL] Hey Get a load of this - UN at big trough of plenty
Talk about chickens coming home to roost - look at the pigs at the trough of plenty - the big cornicopia of revenuelook at the pension plans set up and the allowances and wonder why the USA - why the hell do we pay these pigs to sit back and attempt to make demands on the US Public? Take away our guns - HELL NO - for the ones we have no doubt are ready and waiting to take on this bunch - why don't they move to the land of their creation South Africa? Or hey better yet let their flag fly over the little State of Israel and let the Palestinians take care of them. Not much difference between flag of Zion and flag of UN for they fly the same identical colors - an oh so innocent baby blue and white? So never could find out actual salaries but read this garbage and be shocked. Then the UN should be picketed for as people starve and people are genocided, these pigs sit back and live off fat of land? Move over Henry Kissinger - maybe we are in the wrong racket and it is time to take over that place for it is such a rewarding experience to participate in the UN - head pig, the Secretariat, wears $1,200 suits..and USA has ONE vote in this great creation of people some of whom still swing from trees and murder white farmers, slaughtering them, while UN eggs the bastards on Time to egg this UN until they like Humpty Dumpty take the big fall = cut off the money and AID to Israel and watch peace be restored to a friendly world that once segregated by choice but now we see Paris burning and it could not happen to a nicer bunch. Saba http://www.oas.org/legal/english/Rules/chapter3.htm
[CTRL] Scientists Block Prions that Cause Mad Cow Disease
-Caveat Lector- http://ens-news.com/ens/aug2001/2001L-08-15-01.html Scientists Block Prions that Cause Mad Cow Disease LA JOLLA, California, August 15, 2001 (ENS) - Scientists working at The Scripps Research Institute (TSRI) and at the University of California, San Francisco, have found a promising treatment for the dreaded mad cow disease and one form of the same disease in humans, called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease. A malformed prion protein is the agent of infection. Not a virus or a bacteria, but instead transmissible spongiform encepalopathies such as mad cow disease, are caused by a malformed prion protein that is chemically the same as normal human proteins. If fed grain contaminated with prion protein, cattle can develop bovine spongiform encepalopathy (BSE) or mad cow disease. (Photo courtesy Freefoto.com) Pronounced (PREE-on), prions are known to cause new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as well as numerous other rare neurodegenerative diseases in animals and humans. Infection can occur from ingestion of prion-contaminated meats, contamination through biological and pharmaceutical products and, as seen in the past, from cannibalism. In the current issue of the scientific journal Nature Professor Dennis R. Burton, Ph.D. describes an antibody that, in cell culture at least, clears prion infection. This finding may point the way to a treatment for mad cow disease and its human equivalent. One antibody this group designed seems to halt the prion infection all together. The antibody - called Fab D18 - binds to the normal form of the prion protein and prevents the infectious form from binding in cell culture. The normal cellular machinery degraded whatever infectious prions remained, suggesting that the antibody has the potential to cure established infection. Dr. Burton says the antibody provides a potential therapeutic target, a highly effective human drug might be designed to bind to the same place as Fab D18. Prions, says investigator Anthony Williamson, Ph.D., have a Jekyll and Hyde personality. Burton and Williamson, who are both in the Department of Immunology at TSRI, explain that infectious prions from an animal with mad cow disease will initially cause normal prion proteins in the brain of a healthy cow to misform into the infectious form. Then these prions will act on more normal prion protein to produce more and more misfolded protein that accumulates and eventually leads to brain damage with a sponge-like appearance, Williamson says. Stanley Pruisner, 1997 Nobel Prize in Medicine (Photo courtesy The Nobel Foundation) The research article, Antibodies inhibit prion propagation and clear cell cultures of prion infectivity, appears in the August 16 issue of the British journal Nature and is authored by David Peretz, R. Anthony Williamson, Klotoshi Kaneko, Julie Vergara, Estelle Leclerc, Gerold Schmitt-Ulms, Ingrid Mehlhorn, Gluseppe Legname, Mark Wormald, Pauline Rudd, Raymond Dwek, Dennis R. Burton, and Stanley Prusiner, a Nobel Prize winner honored for his work in identifying the prion. The research was funded in part by the National Institutes of Health and is a collaboration between TSRI and the Prusiner laboratory at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF). In a related development, other UCSF researchers have determined that two drugs currently approved to treat either malaria or certain psychotic illnesses are effective in treating mouse cells infected with the infectious protein known as the prion. Because the drugs have long been used, they are known to cross the difficult to penetrate blood-brain barrier, The UCSF researchers have observed what they call a dramatic response in the cells to the two pharmaceuticals, quinacrine and chlorpromazine. Carsten Korth, MD and his team report their findings and their recommendation for clinical trials in the August 14 issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. Korth is one of three founding scientists of Prionics Inc. a spin-off research company at the University of Z|rich, Switzerland. Korth advocates the immediate establishment of clinical trials to investigate the efficacy of the drugs in patients dying of prion diseases. He calls prion diseases relentless and uniformly fatal. It's a big leap from findings in cell culture to those in humans, and we do not know if we will see a favorable response in humans. But the results we saw, in a cell model we consider valid, make this lead worth pursuing immediately, said Dr. Korth. Korth is a postdoctoral scholar in the UCSF laboratory of senior author Stanley Prusiner, MD, UCSF professor of neurology and biochemistry and director of the UCSF Institute for Neurodegenerative Diseases. UCSF neurologists, together with the researchers, are in the final stages of developing a clinical trial to test the efficacy of the two drugs in the treatment of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) and other prion diseases. The two drugs, quinacrine and
Re: [CTRL] US And Other Activists Back Palestinians
-Caveat Lector- FYI AUGUST 17, 06:17 EDT Foreign Activists Back Palestinians By JASON KEYSER Associated Press Writer AL KHADER, West Bank (AP) - As a 13-year-old Palestinian boy bulldozed an Israeli roadblock in the center of his town, three dozen foreign sympathizers stood guard. Israeli soldiers watched from a hilltop Thursday as Sultan Khaled Mousasbiah jerked the gears of the rusting yellow bulldozer and pushed down an unmanned barrier, made of a hollowed out city bus and heaps of dirt, rock and cement. For the Palestinians of this town south of Bethlehem, it was a small victory. For the international group of demonstrators, it was mostly a symbolic one. Like the last time they helped demolish the roadblock, they understood that Israeli soldiers were likely to put it back up. Among them was Heidi Arraf, a 25-year-old Palestinian-American who moved to Jerusalem a year ago and has helped put together an umbrella group of activists called the International Solidarity Movement. The group supports Palestinians in their struggle for statehood and hopes to help end nearly 11 months of violence. ``Our governments are calling for the same thing - you must take action to end the violence. But no one is taking action. We are,'' Arraf said, using her hand to shield her eyes from the setting sun as she watched Israeli soldiers on the hillside. About 80 activists from the United States, Germany, Italy, France, England and other European countries responded to mass e-mail calls to come to the region this month to join local activists for two weeks of semi-spontaneous demonstrations. For the last two weeks they have scuffled with Israeli police who took over the unofficial Palestinian headquarters in east Jerusalem after a bloody suicide bombing attack in the Jewish section of the city, spent the night with Palestinian families in nearby Beit Jalla during firefights with Israelis and held demonstrations. As the demonstrators marched through Al Khader, a small Palestinian boy, a blue T-shirt wrapped around his head showing only eyes, ran into the street, holding a toy machine gun he made out of black tape and cardboard. Irene Siegel, 36, a student at the University of California at Berkley, expressed concern. ``Who are their role models? What do they aspire to be? Where are they going to go to get their education?'' she said. Siegel, one of 20 Americans in the group, is a Jew who came from Cairo, where she is participating in an Islamic studies program. Standing next to her was Linda Bevis, 40, a history teacher at Renton High School in Seattle. She and her husband spent a night with a Palestinian family in the divided West Bank city of Hebron, where there are almost daily exchanges of fire as Palestinians shoot at Jewish enclaves and soldiers fire back. ``At a certain point, when people are being shot and killed on a regular basis the only way to nonviolently stop it is to put your bodies in between the shooters and the people who are being shot,'' she said. After members of the group tried to act as human shields in front of Palestinians during an exchange of fire, an Israeli official wondered why they weren't protecting the Israelis. Fighting broke out last September after peace talks broke down. Israel charges that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is using the violence to try to wring further concessions out of Israel. The Palestinians counter that Israel is using excessive force. Their main argument is that Israel's 34-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is the primary cause of the violence. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION
[CTRL] Campaign for Disclosure - Vancouver - Sept 9, 2001
-Caveat Lector- Campaign for Disclosure - Vancouver - Sept 9, 2001 STORY AT: http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews36.html Please distribute far and wide. Thanks! _ EcoNews Service: Always online for Ecology, Consciousness, and Universal Exopolitics EcoNews: http://www.ecologynews.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vancouver, BC V6M1V8 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [NA] Film of Stalin Voting Shown on AMC
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Those who count the votes decide everything.
attributed to Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
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Film of Stalin Voting Shown on AMC
One line of argumentation advanced to discredit the Stalin quote (Those
who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide
everything.) is that Stalin could not possibly have said this because
there were no elections in Communist Russia.
This is not true. There were elections under Stalin, although there was
only on Party, the Communist Party. If Stalin or any other Party
approved candidate had a challenger, he was a de facto patsy who was not
allotted enough resources to have a ghost of a chance. It has been said
that Stalin would allow his opponent to print 2000 pamplets and he
would print 100,000.
Of course, if all else failed, Stalins men were counting the ballots in
secret without any citizen checks and balances just like our votes are
counted by the two (wink, wink) major parties in power in the United
States today.
It has been called to our attention that on August 11th, 2001 AMC
(American Movie Classics, which is one of the old movie channels on many
cable networks) would play a newsreel film made circa 1954 entitled,
The Hoaxsters. This film equated all peddlers of Totalitarian
ideologies with carnival hucksters. In this film was shown film footage
of Josef Stalin VOTING in Russia along with many other citizens. Stalin
had a paper ballot in his hand, and he dropped it through the slot of a
ballot box. With the new internet software invention, Snappy, it would
be possible to get a copy of this newsreel film and take a picture of it
to be put on the internet or in printed material.
Even Stalin knew it looked better if the people appeared to be electing
him. His counterparts in the USA just figured out that the election-scam
is infinitely more effective and convincing if you have TWO candidates
from The Party really vying for top dog in any given election. His
counterparts in the USA are now trying to perfect the technological scam
by which they use every trusting voter as a prop in their electoral
hoax.
Someone sent us an email a while ago which described the modern day
electoral process this way. I may have carried it once but here it is
again:
The American election process circa year 2000 is like a car driving down
the highway. The adult (those controlling ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, the
New York Times wire service, the AP wire service, etc. along with the
several dominant major computer software companies which supply the
hardware and software for elections in the USA) is the person actually
driving the car in the drivers seat. The little toddler (the American
voter) is in the passengers seat smiling and steering the play
steering wheel which is part of his car seat. Every once in awhile the
adult, who is really steering the car, tells the little guy what a great
job hes doing steering the car. Turning the little plastic wheel built
into his little car seat gives the toddler the illusion that he has
something to do with steering the car; nothing could be further from the
truth.
And, ladies and gentlemen, to quote Walter Cronkite, Thats the way it
is, August 14th, 2001.
End of this e-wire.
Jim Condit Jr.,
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[CTRL] The Pedophocracy, Part VI: Finders Keepers
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/pedo6.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/pedo6.html;pedo6/A - The Pedophocracy, Part VI: Finders Keepers By David McGowan August 2001 Little girls have to learn that their fathers are off limits when it comes to gratification of sexual feelings Dr. Richard Gardner, another vocal member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, explaining how children are to blame for their molestation (in The Toronto Star, February 4, 1996) Just a few years later, yet another case broke in the state of Florida. On February 7 of 1987, not long before the Franklin and the Spence cases broke, the Washington Post ran an interesting story that did not at the time seem to have any particular national significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and read in part as follows: Authorities investigating the alleged abuse of six children found with two men in a Tallahassee, Fla., park discovered material yesterday in the Washington area that they say points to a 1960's style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a 'cult' that allegedly conducted 'brainwashing' and used children 'in rituals.' D.C. police, who searched a Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag carried from the warehouse at 1307 Fourth St. NE were wallet-sized pictures of children, similar to school photos, and some were of naked children. D.C. police sources said some of the items seized yesterday showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be 'cult rituals.' Officials of the U.S. Customs Service, called in to aid in the investigation, said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains. Customs officials said they were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted ... Their links to the D.C. area have led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes the Finders - a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a man named Marion Pettie - and their various homes, including the duplex apartment building in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm in rural Madison County, Va. ... The children, identified in a court document only by the first names of Honeybee, John, Franklin, Bee Bee, Max and Mary, were described as 'dirty, unkempt, hungry, disturbed and agitated.' They had been living in the rear of the van for some time, the document said. Yesterday, police spokesman Hunt said one of the children, a 6 yr. old girl, 'showed signs of sexual abuse' ... Five of the children were uncommunicative, according to police, and none seemed to recognize objects such as typewriters and staplers. However, the oldest was able to give investigators some information. She said that the two men 'were their teachers,' according to Hunt ... Before their arrests in the park, [the two adult caretakers] had told police that they were teachers from Washington 'transporting these children to Mexico and a school for brilliant children,' according to Hunt. When police asked the men where the children's mothers were they said they were being weaned from their mothers. This was just one of many such stories that emerged across the country in the late 1980s, a phenomenon that would quickly be denounced as a witch hunt and as a satanic panic. It would be nearly seven years before the press would revisit this particular manifestation of what would come to be regarded as a modern-day case of mass hysteria. It was the U.S. News and World Report that would ultimately provide the follow-up to the Finders story, but this was certainly not in the interest of shining any light on the earlier allegations. Most likely, the strange saga of the Finders would have disappeared forever if not for the rumors surrounding the case that just wouldn't seem to go away. These rumors were addressed in the U.S. News report as follows: One of the unresolved questions involves allegations that the Finders are somehow linked to the Central Intelligence Agency. Customs Service documents reveal that in 1987, when Customs agents sought to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, D.C. police, they were told that the Finders investigation 'had become an internal matter.' The police report on the case had been classified secret. Even now, Tallahassee police complain about the handling of the Finders investigation by D.C. police. 'They dropped this case,' one Tallahassee investigator says, 'like a hot rock.' D.C. police will not comment on the matter. As for the CIA, ranking officials describe allegations about links between the
[CTRL] OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR
-Caveat Lector- OPEN LETTER ON ENVIRONMENTAL WAR Open Letter: http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews37.html EcoNews Service: Always online for Ecology, Consciousness, and Universal Exopolitics EcoNews: http://www.ecologynews.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vancouver, BC V6M1V8 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] God Forsaken in US Senate
In a message dated 8/17/01 1:19:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's something about Paul Weyrich or any of his ilk telling me about God that I find really disgusting. Prudy well some ones got to get you the message. MUUHAA... sorry couldn't pass up a good straight line Carl
Re: [CTRL] Radio journalist assassinated in Costa Rica
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/08/2001 2:00:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His search for truths that were hardly ever reported by mainstream media led him to work on the latest case he had uncovered at the time of his death. The exposure of the problems of Radio María, a two-year old Catholic radio station headed by the renowned fundamentalist priest, Father Minor Calvo, who´s radio station had amassed large sums of money, supposedly donated by believers and followers. Parmenio further exposed the hypocrisy of the priest who persecuted gays when the priest himself was found in a park of San José, late at night, with a young boy. The priest alleged that he was teaching the young man to drive. It was later proven by Parmenio that the adolescent had a two-year-old driving license. The scandal was so big that the head of the Catholic Church in the country had to close down the radio station and send Minor away in meditation. Now isn't this interesting. Perhaps there has been a separation of church and state. It appears the church is going to hell. No, I don't think the priest is going for being gay. It's the hypocrisy that should do him in and all his cohorts and leaders as well. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Larry Summers can run but he can't hide from GATA
Lawsuits Continue To Pursue Summers After Leaving D.C. By David H. Gellis Crimson Staff Writer The Harvard Crimson www.TheCrimson.com Cambridge, Mass. Currency bearing University President Lawrence H. Summers' signature isn't the only lingering reminder of his time as Treasury secretary. This week a U.S. District Court judge in Boston scheduled an October 9 hearing on a motion to dismiss a lawsuit that names Summers as a defendant. The suit is fallout from Summers' time as a public official -- and only one of many suits targeting him. And one of the motions to be debated at the hearing is whether Summers can continue to be held liable as a private citizen. Current Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill automatically replaces his predecessor when charges are leveled against Summers in his official capacity, but the plaintiff in this suit maintains that he is suing Summers as an individual. The suit, filed by Reginald H. Howe (Class of '62) in Boston last December, accuses the defendants, who in addition to Summers include Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan, officials of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), and four major banks, of manipulative activities in the gold market and of violating the Sherman Anti-Trust and Security Exchange Acts. The suit stems from a shareholder buyout by the BIS. But Howe said he's using this primary complaint as a platform from which to allege price fixing of the gold market -- the claim that he said implicates Summers. The suit says that as Secretary, Summers acted improperly to suppress gold prices. The suit is being funded by the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, a group founded in 1999 by financial commentator Bill Murphy to advocate legal action against the key U.S. players in the gold market. If we're right, it will be much bigger than Watergate, Murphy said. Summers has not responded to the suit, and could not be reached for comment. Motions to substitute O'Neill and dismiss the suit are being handled by the U.S. Attorney's office in Boston. Arguments to dismiss the lawsuit vary among the defendant parties, and include arguments about jurisdiction as well as the merits of the case. Judge Reginald Lindsay will hear debate on the motions at the October hearing. In a press release, Howe noted the timing of the hearing -- three days before Summers is officially installed as university president at inauguration ceremonies -- heightens the drama of the case. -END- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[CTRL] Fwd: [SGRA ENews Dispatch!] TWA 800 Case File Reopened
TWA 800 Case File Reopened August 17, 2001 By unanimous vote on August 16, 2001, the Smoking Gun Research Agency has decided to reopen its case file on the crash/downing of Trans World Airlines (TWA) Flight 800 after the recent acquisition of new evidence and witness reports. On August 12, the SGRA's main offices in Westport, Connecticut, received a phone call from a woman on Long Island who claimed to have witnessed the entire events of July 17, 1996 from her backyard porch. She had been passed the SGRA's contact information from a friend on the Internet who was aware of our previous investigation into the case. She was hoping that her testimony could be added to that case file. After speaking with Jon Nowinski, Director of the SGRA over a period of three days, her information and detailed account seemed to match many other witnesses who had reported observing the fiery demise of TWA 800 over the Atlantic Ocean that night. The most interesting fact about her testimony is that it matches the reports of observing a "brilliant streak of light" in the air onlya few seconds before seeing the fire ball which was TWA 800. The theories that TWA 800 was brought down by missile fire (be it Friend or Foe) have mostly been put to rest by official government investigators. Unfortunately, the final conclusions for those theories given from the government don't seem to conclude them at all. In fact, the question is still being posed "why is the government not taking these theories seriously?" Official suggestions have been everything from faulty wiring to problematic fuel pumps, but despite hundreds of witnesses stating information about the observation of a missile or missile-like object in the air the government has all but looked these people over. Among the recent contacts with former witnesses the SGRA also received a number of conversations on both audio tape and in transcripts from other aircraft in the area of the TWA 800 event prior to and after the accident. This second investigation of the TWA 800 event was sparked by the contact with these former witnesses who, since 1996, have not changed their stories. None of the witnesses that came forward to the SGRA have ever attempted to get money or fame from what they saw. They have all simply wanted to add their observations to the report. The SGRA will be conducting this follow-up investigation of the new sources and information as well as recontacting the old witnesses and sorting through the documents collected with the first investigation. For more information on the case or how you can help please contact the SGRA at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Also keep checking www.sgrahq.com for a new updated page of this current investigation. The Smoking Gun Research Agencywww.sgrahq.com ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]Official world member of the Universal Parapsychological and Metaphysical Association (UPMA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ~ The Smoking Gun Research Agency ENews Dispatch ~ Please visit our website at www.sgrahq.com for the latest information! If you have any questions or problems feel free to contact us directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [CTRL] God Forsaken in US Senate
-Caveat Lector- There's something about Paul Weyrich or any of his ilk telling me about God that I find really disgusting. Prudy Why? I mean what specifically about Weyrich and his ilk is disgusting? Jamieson A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [neah] US Citizen Reported Missing in the West Bank
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/09/2001 2:16:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ADC Legal Department has contacted the State Department regarding Adnan and is also working closely with Partners for Peace, an organization that has worked extensively on cases of human rights abuses by Israel against American citizens of Arab origin. Both ADC and Partners for Peace have contacted Kim Richer, the Overseas American Citizens Services Officer for Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, who has stated that the State Department in conjunction with the American Embassy in Tel Aviv and the American Consulate in Jerusalem have been doing everything they can to locate Adnan. However, the State Department is unwilling to issue an official letter of protest to the Israeli government, a common practice in a situation such as this one. And just think, it was money from America that allows the Israeli to have such nice jeeps and such effective weapons. Say goodbye to Adnan. I'm sure they decided to eliminate him. Such a nice country--a real Democracy. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The CIA The Ben Barka Affair
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/09/2001 7:02:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmed Boukhari remembers every detail of the acid tank they used to dissolve Ben Barka's body. It was Boukhari, then a young officer in the Moroccan intelligence service, who ordered the tank from the company that made boilers for Moroccan railways. A Col Martin of the CIA highly recommended the system to his trainees in the north African kingdom, saying it had worked well for the Iranian SAVAK. This sort of thing allows one to have such respect for the CIA. Won't it be wonderful if the people are right about reincarnation? Just think, it seems that whatever we do in one lifetime is done to us in the next. It's that karma thing. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Masonic Facility to Repay Medicaid
-Caveat Lector- Masonic facility to repay Medicaid By KEN DIXON Aug. 17 - HARTFORD -- One of the state's largest health providers improperly billed the state for $12 million over nine years in Connecticut's largest case of Medicaid negligence, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal charged Thursday. But the president and CEO of the company, Masonicare of Wallingford, said fraud was not an issue and there were no allegations of substandard care in its 548-bed geriatric, acute-care and psychiatric complex. Masonicare is an affiliate of the Ancient Free Accepted Masons of Connecticut. Blumenthal, however, said there was evidence of widespread malfeasance and has referred the case to state and federal authorities for possible criminal charges. In this Medicaid abuse case, they literally threw everything, including the kitchen sink, into their wrongful claim report, when they asked for reimbursement of apartment renovations, Blumenthal said during a morning news conference. It certainly was abusive, improper and probably fraudulent in many respects. The nonprofit Masonic Geriatric Healthcare Center of Wallingford improperly claimed about $12 million in state Medicaid funds administered by the state Department of Social Services. About $3 million in property improvements and renovations should never have been part of the reimbursement requests, according to Blumenthal and the DSS From July 1992 through June of this year, DSS made about $11 million in payments that were either prohibited by Medicaid or should have been reimbursed under other programs. Deputy DSS Commissioner Michael Starkowski said, It remains among our highest priorities to ensure the integrity of state-funded health-care payments to facilities charged with caring for our most vulnerable populations. Today's settlement, which represents almost $12 million in restitution for wrongly expended state funds, not only acknowledges that we will catch abusive and negligent practices, but it's worth the effort. Under the settlement, MGHC will return the $10,886,000 in Medicaid overpayments and pay an additional $1,014,000 for costs associated with the inquiry conducted by the Attorney General's Office and DSS. The Wallingford complex also will have to establish a corporate integrity program in cooperation with the state's Medical Assistance Program. In a statement issued Thursday, Barry M. Spero, Masonicare's president and CEO, said the company has taken steps to ensure all future cost reporting meets complex state regulations. He admitted that the firm takes full responsibility for any errors that may have been made. Spero indicated that with the company's rapid expansion into a variety of services, from cemeteries to psychiatric care, staff administrators may have been overwhelmed. We know through our own internal review and the state's audit that although Masonicare's delivery of care was of the highest standards, our business and information systems were not able to keep pace, Spero said. The company has hired a new financial staff, purchased a new computer system and hired consultants to oversee future integrity, he said. Blumenthal said that, over the last four years, state Medicaid fraud investigators have succeeded in retrieving about $33 million in payments from a variety of state contractors. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Paper Flag Irritates Israelis
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/14/2001 9:51:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: THE ARABS called it a day of rage but the Israelis were the ones demonstrating their rage outside Orient House yesterday. The Palestinian youth who dared to hold up a Palestinian flag made of paper was seized by six border guards and plain-clothes police, kicked, beaten, punched in the face and back and then kneed in the groin in front of us all. And God forbid that any Israeli should be irritated. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [PalestineDiary] Israeli army warns of all-out war/News-Telegraph/UK (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Israeli army warns of all-out war By Alan Philps in Jerusalem (Filed: 17/08/2001) THE violence of the intifada, or Palestinian uprising, could last for five years or lead to a full-scale war, according to an assessment by the Israeli army. The general staff believe that the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, is in such a weak position that he is not able to impose anything more than a lull in the violence, and could lose control completely. The prediction is contained in the army's annual strategic assessment, being prepared for the chief of staff, Lt-Gen Shaul Mofaz. After 10 months of clashes, the newspaper Ha'aretz, which published excerpts of Israeli military thinking, said the two fronts - against the Palestinians and along the northern border with Lebanon - were stable but fragile. But an incident such as a bombing with heavy casualties could tip the region into war. Israel's most respected military commentator, Ze'ev Schiff, said the army was turning the clock back to the 1950s, when retaliatory raids against Arab countries were the norm. If raids continued against Palestinian towns and the number of Palestinian casualties rose, he wrote, the situation will continue to deteriorate until it finally reaches all-out war. An equally pessimistic view of the prospects for diplomatic progress comes from the Anglo-Palestinian academic Dr Yezid Sayigh, who predicts that the current conflict will last until the end of this year, and probably at least through 2002. Dr Sayigh says Mr Arafat bears much of the responsibility for the catastrophic situation in the Palestinian territories, because of the absence of a clear purpose he has shown in the past 10 months. Although successive Israeli governments served to bring down the peace process, Arafat is guilty of strategic misjudgment, with consequences for the Palestinians of potentially historic proportions, Dr Sayigh writes in Survival, a publication of the International Institute for Strategic Studies. The intifada has shifted the political ground in Israel to a more hardline position. To reverse the damage would require discipline and political vision, and Mr Arafat would have to act in a manner alien to him. Dr Sayigh predicts three possible scenarios: a continuing guerrilla campaign, the destruction by the Israelis of the Palestinian Authority or the disintegration of the authority under Israeli pressure. Benedict Brogan, Political Correspondent, writes: The British Government refused yesterday; to suspend arms sales to Israel and rejected calls for a European arms embargo as a response to the worsening violence in the occupied territories. Amnesty International backed an appeal from the Palestinian Authority and the Liberal Democrats for a ban on the sale of military equipment, claiming that it was being used as part of Israeli efforts to enforce its control of the territories. But Ben Bradshaw, the Foreign Office minister, said Britain accepted Isreali assurances that exports were not being used against the Palestinians. He told the BBC's World and One programme that military sales to Isreal were miniscule and added: Basically, America arms Israel. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] suffer the little children
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/14/2001 12:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The blood of these innocents stains all our hands but the hands that it stains the most are Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, American President George Bush, and all the Arab leaders who are either drunk or might as well be because they seem to be completely oblivious to the Palestinian Holocaust that is going on right under their upturned noses. One can deplore this situation, but nothing will change except it will become easier to kill children. I believe one gets used to it. In Rio de Janairo they hunt them down in the streets like stray dogs. It's a kind of sport. Obviously the Israeli enjoy the same sport. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PERFECT ECONOMY - Mathematic PROOF Federal Reserve CAUSED Great Depression, Lou
-Caveat Lector- A very good site for Federal Reserve information.AKE http://www.perfecteconomy.com/principal---federal-reserve-system.ht ml begin 666 PERFECT ECONOMY - Mathematic PROOF Federal Reserve CAUSED Great Depression, Louis T. McFadden's Congressional Address.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I05-%55),/6AT=' Z+R]W=WN5R9F5C=5C;VYO;7DN M8V]M+W!R:6YC:7!A;TM+69E95R86PMF5S97)V92US7-T96TN:'1M; T* M#0I;26YT97)N9713:]R=-U=%T-E523#UH='1P.B\O=W=W+G!EF9E8W1E M8V]N;VUY+F-O;2]PFEN8VEP86PM+2UF961EF%L+7)EV5R=F4MWES=5M D+FAT;6P-DUO9EF:65D/3(P04)0S!-4(R-T,Q,#$Q-@T* ` end A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli Police And Routine,Organized Cruelty
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/15/2001 3:14:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The inhabitants of Palestine come from many places, but nearly all of them are Semitic/Arabic. Such peoples are universally understood to be/have been nomadic. Yes, well most of the ones who had enjoyed life in Palestine before the Israeli came along (you know the Israeli who had traveled quite a distance to get there) were living on farms and had olive trees which take eons to bear fruit. They had been resident for generations, apparently getting over their errant nomadic ways in the long distant past. Still I can understand what you say. They've been pretty much forced to become nomadic again, since the Israeli have bulldozed their homes, farms and cut down their orchards, even ruined the water supplies. Kind of keeps them on the move, doesn't it? Oh well, whatever the Israeli do is just fine. They must worship a somewhat different God than I do, but as long as their's approves, they can just keep on truck'in. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] suffer the little children
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/14/2001 12:27:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The blood of these innocents stains all our hands but the hands that it stains the most are Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, American President George Bush, and all the Arab leaders who are either drunk or might as well be because they seem to be completely oblivious to the Palestinian Holocaust that is going on right under their upturned noses. One can deplore this situation, but nothing will change except it will become easier to kill children. I believe one gets used to it. In Rio de Janairo they hunt them down in the streets like stray dogs. It's a kind of sport. Obviously the Israeli enjoy the same sport. Prudy I just want to clarify that you are saying that Israelis kill children for sport. Is that right Prudy? J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Capitalism at work: Human Stem Cells ALREADY PATENTED. Owning life and health.
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Human Stem Cells ALREADY PATENTED -- US Officials in Bind Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:15:26 -0500 (CDT) From: VERACARE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; VERACARE: Alliance for Human Research Protection (AHRP) Tel: 212-595-8974 FAX: 212-595-9086 [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI It may come as a shock to most folks, but the University of Wisconsin has cornered the market, it owns the sole patent rights to primate and human stem cells, patent # 6,200,806. The dynamic of the stem cell research debate now moves to its inevitable commercial arena--where neither science nor philosophy or religion have any influence. The commercialization of human life is now taking center stage as patent rights--intellectual property rights and contracts, not human values, determine who and what research goes forth, be it government or privately-funded research. The Times reports that the University's research foundation is already suing the very biotech company that it had contracted with. Does patent law override all other laws as well as our natural birthright? Where are the ethicists ? ~~ http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/17/health/genetics/17CELL.html?pagewanted=pri nt THE NEW YORK TIMES AUG 17, 2001 Patent Laws May Determine Shape of Stem Cell Research By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG ASHINGTON, Aug. 16 - As they carry out President Bush's plan for government financing of embryonic stem cell studies, federal health officials confront a daunting challenge: United States patent 6,200,806, a claim to the human embryonic stem cell. The patent, held by a foundation at the University of Wisconsin, is apparently the only one of its kind in the world, leaving the university in such a powerful position that next week the health officials will begin negotiations in hopes of reaching an agreement to allow federally financed scientists broad access to the cells. The patent, which covers both the method of isolating the cells and the cells themselves, gives the Wisconsin foundation control over who may work in the United States with stem cells, and for what purpose. In turn, the foundation has granted important rights to a biotechnology company, the Geron Corporation of Menlo Park, Calif., giving that company considerable say over who ultimately profits from stem cell therapies. This complex tangle of intellectual-property rights and contracts is now a pressing concern at the National Institutes of Health, the agency charged with putting President Bush's plan into effect. Next week, representatives from the foundation, the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation, or WARF, are to meet with officials at the institutes to take the first steps toward negotiating access to stem cells. I don't want people to see us as an 800-pound gorilla, Carl Gulbrandsen, the foundation's managing director, said. We will work very hard with the government to make sure that there is access to this technology and that our patents are not an impediment to researchers. But many scientists fear that the foundation's restrictions might hinder research on cells that hold promise for treating and curing some of mankind's most devastating diseases. And though legal experts say it could be challenged in court, the Wisconsin patent could help push stem cell science overseas. Mr. Bush said that 60 lines, or self- sustaining colonies, of stem cells exist in laboratories around the world, and said that under his program, government scientists would be free to work with any of them. But the government does not have control over whether those cell lines get to researchers, according to Mr. Gulbrandsen, federal health officials and patent law experts. If the cell lines match the description in the broadly worded Wisconsin patent, these experts say, their owners must obtain approval from the foundation before distributing them. That has scientists worried. The whole point of this, surely, is to get good cells into the hands of researchers, said Dr. Ron D. McKay, who has conducted promising research on mouse embryonic stem cells at the National Institutes of Health and is eager to work with the human cells. I think that it is unclear, in practice, how easy it will be to get these cells. As far as experts know, the United States is the only nation to have issued a patent on human embryonic stem cells. The patent is valid only in this country; the foundation has also applied for patents in Europe. And at least two foreign biotechnology companies say their cell lines may fall outside Wisconsin's claim and have applied for patents of their own in the United States and elsewhere. A patent gives its owner the right to exclude other people from making, using, selling or importing their invention. So researchers in other countries have a double advantage, said Rebecca S. Eisenberg, an expert in biotechnology and patent law at the University of Michigan. Other nations, notably
[CTRL] It's time to kill off these persons.
-Caveat Lector- http://tompaine.com/opinion/2001/07/12/3.html IS THE CORPORATION OBSOLETE? Corporate Irresponsibility? Predatory Behavior? Blame the Charter -- and Rewrite it Jonathan Rowe is a fellow at the Tamales Bay Institute and a contributing editor of the Washington Monthly. Editor's Note: This piece originally appeared in the Washington Monthly. It is reprinted with permission. It is a sign of immersion that the thing immersed doesn't notice. The fish, famously, is not aware of water. Dick Cheney and George W. Bush cannot see past their allegiance to the oil industry because it's all they know -- their water. So it is with the corporation. Over the last century and a half, the corporation has become the dominant institution of American life, the envelope of existence, as one writer put it. It defines work, entertainment, politics, transportation, the way people think about their bodies and the world. Increasingly it dominates the cognitive environment of daily life. For all the kvetching about government, the corporation permeates our lives in much more basic ways. Yet the more pervasive the corporation becomes, the less we seem to notice. It's just the way things are, the new normal, and rapidly it is becoming the norm for the entire world. This has been the subtext of recent trade agreements, and the implicit agenda that has inspired the opposition to the World Trade Organization. Protestors in Seattle and elsewhere have not been opposing trade per se. One might as well oppose the morning. The issue rather is who controls this trade, under what terms and to what ends. As it has evolved over the last 150 years, the American corporation is more than just a mode of business. It is an agenda, the organizing principle for an entire society -- the embedding in the institutional matrix of the single-minded quest for monetary gain. Apologists may protest to larger aims, or at least effects. But the soul of the corporation is the charter, and corporate charters speak for themselves. They say that the company exists to make money and for no other reason. The question today is whether that governing concern is large enough to serve as organizing principle for the entire world. The question may seem eccentric, even naove, in these economically triumphant times. Yet back in the days when the corporation was still new and its impact clear, the question was of obsessive concern. President Lincoln expressed this in a 19th-century version of Eisenhower's military-industrial complex speech. Corporations have been enthroned, Lincoln said. An era of corruption in high places will follow ... until wealth is aggregated in a few hands ... and the Republic is destroyed. Lincoln knew a thing or two about threats to the Republic. The question continued as farmer-populists and Progressives led the drive for regulations and restraints. Presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Taft, and Wilson all called for federal chartering of large corporations, as Madison, with unusual foresight, had urged at the Constitutional Convention. Roosevelt even created a Federal Bureau of Corporations because of these concerns. But soon enough the corporate economy became simply the economy in the majestic singular. It was helped greatly by a fledgling advertising industry, which cast it in friendly and even patriotic terms, and by an economics profession that served as apologist and booster. Most important of all, prosperity had a quieting effect -- the sedation of Huxley's Brave New World as opposed to the statist oppression of Orwell's 1984. The 1990s were such a time, of course. But as regularly happens, the wheel is turning once again. The stock market is no longer a money machine for the masses, and the jazzy new technology -- the microchip -- is becoming a bit old hat. The energy situation, moreover, has brought dirty old industries such as oil and coal back to center stage. After Clinton's off-and-on embraces, the Bush administration has seized the role of Monica to the suits. At the same time, corporations are showing a degree of raw aggression that is unsettling to say the least. They are claiming new territory in virtually every dimension of existence, from the personal space that is assaulted by huckstering and cell phones to the Star Wars initiative, which will stake a commercial claim to the farthest reaches of outer space. They are taking control of the quest for knowledge at universities, and are moving even to claim the gene pool and the processes of life itself. Perhaps this helps explain why the looming invasion of oil companies into the nation's parks and wilderness areas has become so symbolically charged. It captures in a single image what is happening already in American life. Put all this together, and it is not surprising that there are efforts to revive the debate that was aborted a century ago and to inquire into the nature of the institution that the United States is seeking to launch into a global role. The
Re: [CTRL] US And Other Activists Back Palestinians
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- AUGUST 17, 06:17 EDT Foreign Activists Back Palestinians Didn't see YOUR name there buddy. Didn't see Prudy's or Colleen's either. Don't disappoint us now guys. Put you ass where your mouth is and head on down to the Holyland. Show those Israeli Nazis what you can do. My cousin Moshe-the-Masher is REALLY looking forward to seeing you Colleen. He's been dulling his blunt instrument in anticipation and reciting the Jewish prayer for god to send under medicated psychopaths from the trailers of the heartland. Oooh baby. Joshua2 By JASON KEYSER Associated Press Writer AL KHADER, West Bank (AP) - As a 13-year-old Palestinian boy bulldozed an Israeli roadblock in the center of his town, three dozen foreign sympathizers stood guard. Israeli soldiers watched from a hilltop Thursday as Sultan Khaled Mousasbiah jerked the gears of the rusting yellow bulldozer and pushed down an unmanned barrier, made of a hollowed out city bus and heaps of dirt, rock and cement. For the Palestinians of this town south of Bethlehem, it was a small victory. For the international group of demonstrators, it was mostly a symbolic one. Like the last time they helped demolish the roadblock, they understood that Israeli soldiers were likely to put it back up. Among them was Heidi Arraf, a 25-year-old Palestinian-American who moved to Jerusalem a year ago and has helped put together an umbrella group of activists called the International Solidarity Movement. The group supports Palestinians in their struggle for statehood and hopes to help end nearly 11 months of violence. ``Our governments are calling for the same thing - you must take action to end the violence. But no one is taking action. We are,'' Arraf said, using her hand to shield her eyes from the setting sun as she watched Israeli soldiers on the hillside. About 80 activists from the United States, Germany, Italy, France, England and other European countries responded to mass e-mail calls to come to the region this month to join local activists for two weeks of semi-spontaneous demonstrations. For the last two weeks they have scuffled with Israeli police who took over the unofficial Palestinian headquarters in east Jerusalem after a bloody suicide bombing attack in the Jewish section of the city, spent the night with Palestinian families in nearby Beit Jalla during firefights with Israelis and held demonstrations. As the demonstrators marched through Al Khader, a small Palestinian boy, a blue T-shirt wrapped around his head showing only eyes, ran into the street, holding a toy machine gun he made out of black tape and cardboard. Irene Siegel, 36, a student at the University of California at Berkley, expressed concern. ``Who are their role models? What do they aspire to be? Where are they going to go to get their education?'' she said. Siegel, one of 20 Americans in the group, is a Jew who came from Cairo, where she is participating in an Islamic studies program. Standing next to her was Linda Bevis, 40, a history teacher at Renton High School in Seattle. She and her husband spent a night with a Palestinian family in the divided West Bank city of Hebron, where there are almost daily exchanges of fire as Palestinians shoot at Jewish enclaves and soldiers fire back. ``At a certain point, when people are being shot and killed on a regular basis the only way to nonviolently stop it is to put your bodies in between the shooters and the people who are being shot,'' she said. After members of the group tried to act as human shields in front of Palestinians during an exchange of fire, an Israeli official wondered why they weren't protecting the Israelis. Fighting broke out last September after peace talks broke down. Israel charges that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is using the violence to try to wring further concessions out of Israel. The Palestinians counter that Israel is using excessive force. Their main argument is that Israel's 34-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is the primary cause of the violence. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] WHO IS GUILTY? MILOSEVIC OR NATO?
-Caveat Lector- http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/goff/goff.htm WHO IS GUILTY? MILOSEVIC OR NATO? by Stan Goff [Stan Goff is a Retired U.S. Special Forces Master Sargent, an author, Organizer for the North Carolina Alliance for Democracy and a member of the International Committee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic. (ICDSM)] What do you call someone who pays officials to break the law, threatens people with violence if they don't do what he demands, spreads outrageous lies to impugn people's reputations, and participates in a plot to illegally take an unwilling person out of the country in captivity? Guilty of bribery, extortion, slander and kidnapping. What do you call a government which does precisely those things? The United States in Yugoslavia. Let's get something straight here. The International Tribunal at the Hague is no more an impartial judiciary (1) than Geraldo Rivera is a neurosurgeon, and Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. These are just simply facts, and the thing that--even at 50--still amazes my ass is the sheep-like, gullible, we-just-fell-off-the-turnip-truck acceptance of the capitalist media's horse-manure by comfortable fellow Americans. United States military troops are occupying the Balkans, many of them with relatives who might read this, and very few people seem the least bit inclined to find out what's really going on there. So they listen to CNN, read the 'New York Times' or the 'News and Observer,' watch PBS, or listen to NPR, brought to you by... name your favorite agribusiness or weapons contractor... and believe them. I've got a news flash for you, folks. The media lie. They lie early and often, and they keep on telling the same lies over and over, apparently in the well-founded hope that we will simply and finally equate repetition with accuracy. (2) Slobodan Milosevic is no war criminal. Nor was he a dictator. (3) Until the US started a massive campaign of extortion, bribery and election rigging in Serbia, he won his elections fair and square--unlike the current de facto President of the United States. Nor did Milosevic ever lead the non-existent movement for Greater Serbia. Nor do Serbs collectively share any blame for whatever flavor-of-the-day atrocity is being invented by the IMF, the State Department, NATO Headquarters in Brussels, or that fake Tribunal. Serbs are as fractious and pluralistic as any group, especially about politics, deeply split even today between nationalists and socialists. What they are not, contrary to the recent resurgence of Serb-bashing, is self-pitying and paranoid. They are one of the most stoic, and tolerant, people in Europe. The distortions that underwrite this latest violation of Yugoslav and International law--the veritable kidnapping of a former head of state--would make Joseph Goebbels blush. Crimes were invented to fit the punishment of the Serbs. Allegations were reported as facts, then referenced later as if they really were facts. The mounting evidence of a giant hoax in almost every case has been completely ignored by capitalist media. The effect--intended I think--is to create an impression so overwhelming of Serbian guilt that to question it is to be regarded as a miscreant holocaust denier. Guilt by analogy. Milosevic equals Hitler, therefore defending Serbians equals defending Nazis (a huge irony here, since Serbs were tenacious and fearless fighters against the Third Reich). There's only one little rub. The Holocaust has been well documented by the physical evidence. The Serbians' guilt, and that of Milosevic, has not. But skepticism, fact-checking, and logic have become forbidden foreign languages in the United States, especially our (laugh track here) free press. The overwhelming evidence is that there was never any coordinated campaign of genocide or ethnic cleansing by Serbs, no massacres at either Racak or Srebrenica, and never any such thing as Serbian rape camps. The Kosovo violence was initiated by Albanian heroin-gangsters, who named themselves the Kosovo Liberation Army once they started to get weapons and training from German and US Intelligence. The mass exodus out of Kosovo was not triggered by Serb violence, but by NATO bombing. The reports of 100,000 Kosovar Albanians killed has yet to be corroborated with bodies, and is being quietly scaled ever downward as the bodies fail to appear. Racak was shown to be staged. The bodies from the Srebrenica massacre were never located either, and in fact many of the missing later turned up alive and accounted for in Bosnian Muslim combat units outside Srebrenica. The US and the pseudo-Tribunal have an answer for the missing evidence, those tens of thousands of corpses, that is.! R! ight under the noses of US surveillance satellites--and I have seen imagery from them that can spot a motorcycle and rider--the crafty Serbs, undetected, moved thousands of decomposing bodies to other locations... still to be discovered. (4) Right! The break-up of
[CTRL] Our leaders are wrong. Globalisation is not delivering for the poor
-Caveat Lector- radman pull quote: If we are to confront the real threat of anarchy, let us begin with anarcho-capitalists inside the cordon sanitaire, rather than the victims outside. --- Our leaders are wrong. Globalisation is not delivering for the poor Special report: globalisation - http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/ Alan Simpson Wednesday August 15, 2001 The Guardian You have to take a deep breath before deciding to publicly fall out with a national leader, a cautious chancellor and an economics nobel laureate all at the same time. But the fact that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Amartya Sen share a consensus of confusion about globalisation, does not make their infatuation sensible, equitable or sustainable. A widening chasm divides public protesters from free trade fantasists. With or without the permission of world leaders, a mixed bag of political challenges and ethical alternatives is beginning to force its way into public debate. The pace is being set by those who have decided they cannot go any further down the path of neo-liberalism that corporations, the World Trade Organisation and compliant politicians would have us believe is the road to salvation. Over the last year, some 3m people in over 20 countries have protested against globalisation. Tony Blair may have lavished praise on Brazil's privatisation programme, but his view is not shared by the Brazilian population, caught in the middle of a colossal energy crisis. American energy giant AES has threatened to block a #2bn investment programme unless Brazil deregulates energy prices, while the government has announced surcharges of up to 200% on electricity consumers. Nor did the prime minister see fit to mention that in neighbouring Colombia workers have been so ecstatic about the privatisation programme imposed as a condition of US aid that they have retaken control of the major supplier of water, electricity and telecommunications in Cali, the country's second city. In New York, it might be understandable for Gordon Brown to enthuse about a possible $350bn gain from a fully open trading and commercial relationship between Europe and America. American executives - many of whom represented corporations queuing up for the guaranteed profit stream from privatised public services - loved it. None would have read the devastating critique by Allyson Pollock and her colleagues from University College London, showing that privatised markets in public services cost us more, deliver less, bequeath huge debts and generally walk off with the public's assets. That wouldn't have bothered the chancellor's audience. But Amartya Sen would have cared, and it is within the contradictions of his analysis that we find the most hopeful seeds for a counter-thesis to globalisation. Sen's great achievement is to have written an economics for the poor. He has never given up on the politics and economics of redistribution. The trouble is that his approach has not moved on from economics as it was, nor caught up with climate changes that will rewrite economics as it will become. None of the protesters in Genoa would disagree with Amartya Sen's comments here last month that even though the world is incomparably richer than ever before, ours is a world of extraordinary deprivation and of staggering inequality. The problems begin with the reasons for this, and whether globalisation makes it worse. Sen accuses the opponents of globalisation of wanting to deny the poor access to the great advantages of contemporary technology. But it was the pharmaceutical companies, not free-trade protesters, that ganged up to prevent Southern Africa from manufacturing its own anti-Aids drugs. Not one of the most exciting technological advances is being offered freely to the poor. All demand the protectionism of patents and the payment of royalties. In its most grotesque form, this even charges the poor for access to the parts of their own biodiversity that have been patented. To some extent, Amartya Sen's faith in the malleability of the market economy hinges on longstanding economic views about the significance of the nation state in international trade. Theories of comparative advantage - in which all countries gain by focusing on production and trade in goods they have a relative cost advantage in - depended on assumptions about capitalism that are long past their sell-by date. From Adam Smith through to Keynes, there was a reasonable presumption that capital was essentially national in character, rooted in the ownership of land and production of goods. Capitalist entrepreneurs were assumed to play largely within national rules. The second half of the 20th century saw a transformation in capitalism itself. Its shift from productive capital to finance capital went along with its loss of interest in the nation state. Land could not move offshore, but money could. Capital demanded to be bribed to come and exploit your labour rather than pay
Re: [CTRL] To die for.
In a message dated 8/16/01 10:39:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You DO know that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent don't you? Are you suggesting that this possibility is absurd? Why exactly are you on this list if not only to parrot the ADL/Zionist line? Bill.
[CTRL] 10000 AA Shells Missing From Russian Storage SIte
http://www.allnews.ru/english/2001/08/16/storage/ Updated 16.08.2001 at 18:42:41 Thousands of Anti-Aircraft Guns' Shells Disappear from Storage Some 10,000 shells for anti-aircraft guns have disappeared from a military storage site in the Russian Far East following floods, Interfax news agency reported. The floods destroyed the site near the village of Boyec Kuznetsov and dragged out in the river 300 boxes containing shells. Police and emergency situations ministry's officers failed to find the boxes in the river area. The military prosecutor office is investigating the loss. Neither the police, nor officials of the ministry of emergency situation, or the head of the local administration were allowed to enter the storage site itself, the agency said.
[CTRL] Bush Should Insist Israel Comply W/ UN Res. 242
http://www.mediamonitors.net/index.html Bush should insist Israel comply with UN Resolution 242 by Bassam Abu-Sharif In my last article in the London based Arabic language paper, Asharq Al-Awsad, I mentioned that I have access to credible Israeli sources that indicate that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has ordered the implementation of an updated version of Field of Thorns Item D, so-called "lightning penetration". The plan outlines the invasion of cities, villages and refugee camps under Palestinian Authority control. In that publication I stated that this decision was not related to any response to operations Palestinians may direct at Israel, but is an active part of Sharon’s plan to reinstate the iron fist of Israeli occupation in all areas controlled by the PA. This plan, no doubt, follows from the belief by the Israeli government that the West Bank and Gaza are part of the land of Israel. Sharon’s gambit of retaliations relies on a "chicken and egg" portrayal of Israeli attacks—Israeli reactions to Palestinian actions caused by Israeli repressive actions in the first place. In this scenario, there can never be the "absolute calm" he deems necessary for the implementation of the Mitchell Recommendations and he is allowed to continually delay any negotiations. Thus, Sharon will be able to annex as much territory and found as many new settlements as possible in the meantime. It is worth mentioning that despite some programmatic disagreements between the Israeli Labor and Likud parties, the differences between the two schools of Israeli thought are negligible when it comes to the basic rights of the indigenous population of Palestine. Sharon’s tactics, much like those of his labor predecessor Ehud Barak, are based on the incremental digestion of Palestinian land accompanied by gradual ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian population. It is a straight-forward and modern expression of similar policies used by the classical colonial powers of the last century such as the brutal white settler colonists of South Africa and Zimbabwe. The League of Nations largely banned these practices in Geneva following World War II and adopted laws and conventions to support the right of all human beings to self-determination. Needless to say, with the end of South African apartheid, Israel is the only world power still freely abrogating human rights in order to colonize another people’s land. This morning, the Israeli occupation army savagely and brutally re-occupied the city of Jenin in the northern West Bank for five hours. Israeli troops destroyed buildings and houses and terrorized civilians in an act clearly contravening international law, the Geneva Convention and the agreements signed by the PLO and Israel. Earlier this week, the London Independent’s Robert Fisk described Monday’s brutal display by Israeli soldiers and policemen who attacked a peaceful demonstration of European, Israeli and Palestinian activists protesting the occupation of the Orient House in Jerusalem. Fisk shocked by the apparent savagery of the Israeli police, wonders why Israelis chose to reveal such barbarity in front of a watchful international community. "How can the Israelis do that to themselves?", he asks. We can provide the response to the question Fisk is unable to answer. The officers and soldiers, trained by disciples of the classical British, French and German colonists have inherited all the tactics of torture and brutality which the latter used to capture other lands and enslave their populations. These facts of Israel’s occupation of Palestine are largely unknown by the international community. Reporters are routinely prevented from accessing the scenes of atrocities and human rights violations by the very Israeli military which has committed them. Recently, an Egyptian television crew that attempted to cross a roadblock at Qalandia on the Ramallah-Jerusalem road were thoroughly beaten by Israeli soldiers for their journalistic effrontery. The Israeli military has received hundreds of complaints of similar treatment from the world’s press agencies and has responded to none of them. Reporters from news networks such as BBC World and CNN, on the other hand, rarely have such problems, depending completely on a diet of PR handouts from Israeli governmental sources. They are rarely motivated to visit the scenes of their news stories since an Israeli spin-doctor will most likely call them with the "official" version of the story soon enough, perhaps even before the events in question have actually occurred. Thus, for the benefit of those who remain ignorant concerning the nature of Israeli human rights violations, I will cite the following practices: * Israeli military roadblocks and closures multiply daily and violate the right of all peoples to freedom of movement, an essential right which has repercussions on all levels of human life. Israeli closures and
[CTRL] Barricades
-Caveat Lector- From }}Begin August 2001 Contents Latin America: the 30 years' dirty war * Presidents under pressure Malls aren't us * France: his master's voice * Benin: a free press does not come cheap * The Kurds: a fragile spring * Who will be the next pope? * Immigrant Islam * The watchers and the watched * End of the beginning for the internet Argentina: hello again * Berlin: walking the wall * Being really there Goodbye to human identity search the site: to receive our free monthly summaries, please fill in your e- mail address (*) Star-marked articles are restricted to subscribers only. See subscription information. THE GENOA PROTESTS Democracy at the barricades Heads of state were besieged in July in Genoa. They talked trade and money inside a guarded, if luxurious, compound, while outside the Italian carabinieri confronted demonstrators, only a few of whom were violent. Results: news footage of handshakes and governmental agreements, their details already forgotten - and of an unwarranted death, 600 injuries, beatings and frustration. The next talks will be in the safe enclave of Qatar. by SUSAN GEORGE * After the disgrace of Genoa, multinationals and European and international institutions targeted by anti-globalisers have a recurrent problem: how to discredit, weaken, manipulate and, if possible, annihilate the international citizens' movement which has disturbed the gatherings of the masters of the universe since Seattle. Police retaliation and direct repression are the most obvious weapons in the anti-anti-globaliser armoury. This April spring in Quebec smelled of tear gas: the official figure for the number of canisters fired against anti-FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas) [1]demonstrators was 4,707 - excessive according to a committee set up by the government of Quebec [2]. Asked by doctors about chemical components and propulsion agents, the authorities professed ignorance: We only do testing in terms of how effective the gas is on people [3]. In Europe, too, the use of force and manipulation has reached new extremes. In Gothenburg, during the demonstrations at the summit meeting of heads of state and government of the European Union in June, the Swedish police used live ammunition. In Barcelona, on 22 June, where forums and demonstrations went ahead although the World Bank had retreated from holding its new economics conference, plain clothes police infiltrated the end of the march, vandalised property and attacked uniformed officers to provoke them into violent reprisals against demonstrators and journalists. In Genoa, the Italian police went further: one dead, more than 600 injured, hundreds of arbitrary arrests and a real political plot. There is evidence of complicity between the authorities and gangs of Black Block agents provocateurs that damaged parts of the city [4]. But force seems to have little effect, so the authorities are resorting to legal harassment. A leading member of the Ruckus Society [5], known for its training sessions in non-violence to prepare for occasions like Seattle, was picked up on the streets of Philadelphia the day after demonstrations at the Republican Party convention. He was questioned for six hours by an officer who cheerfully admitted that he had orders to dump a bunch of shit on his booking papers [6], indicted on 13 counts and (unprecedented for such minor offences) required to put up bail of $ 1m. Wrongful arrest, intimidation and ill-treatment of detainees, and closing meetings as a preventive measure, are common wherever opponents of globalisation meet. For evidence, visit one of the independent, decentralised Indymedia websites [7] that are causing headaches in Washington. On the day of the big demonstration in Quebec, FBI and US secret service agents appeared at the Indymedia office in Seattle with court orders requiring it t o disclose the names and email addresses of everyone who had visited the site in the previous 48 hours - several thousand people. This was in flagrant breach of rights guaranteed under the US constitution [8]. In Genoa, o n the night of 21-22 July, carabinieri raided the alternative media centre without a warrant, beat and arrested people, and claimed they were looking for evidence of infiltration by rioters. In Europe too, governments have no compunction about taking liberties with the law. In December 2000 an attempt was made to reduce the scale of the demonstrations against liberal policies pursued by the EU. At a European Council meeting in Nice, 1,500 Italian nationals were held at the Franco-Italian border although they had valid tickets and passports. In January 2001 Swiss authorities blocked all access roads to Davos, transforming the region into a military stronghold. The Italian government suspended the Schengen agreement for four days in a vain attempt to prevent demonstrators from other countries congregating in Genoa. The backlash There is a serious ideological backlash, too. How can
[CTRL] Keystroke Logging The Plan
http://chblue.com/home.pl? frameurl=http%3A%2F%2Finterestalert.com%2Fbrand%2Fsiteia.shtml%3FStory%3Dst%2F sn%2F0816aaa040da.nand%26amp%3BSys%3Dchblue%26amp%3BType%3DNews%26amp%3BFi lter%3DOpinions DAN K. THOMASSON: A new means of snooping Scripps Howard News Service WASHINGTON (August 16, 2001 04:44 p.m. EDT ) - Given the never-ending electronic developments that make it easier and easier to pry into the personal lives of Americans, basic privacy is probably a thing of the past. Someday even our thoughts may be vulnerable and actionable if they aren't politically correct. Federal law does provide us with a modicum of security from unwarranted snooping by U.S. agents on fishing expeditions. That protection is called a court order. It requires probable cause for installing a wiretap or electronic bug. But that protection may be inadequate now because of a new technology that thoroughly confuses the issue of what is and isn't a wiretap. It allows law-enforcement authorities - mainly the FBI, but presumably other agencies as well - to use something called a keystroke logger to find out what you have written on your computer, and to find out before the words are sent over a telephone line. It is when the sending takes place that the law requires a warrant for interception. The FBI has developed such a device and, to the horror of personal-privacy advocates everywhere, the FBI has used it in a current case. The bureau has refused to reveal how the gadget works. While the current controversy centers around the activities of organized crime, it has the making of an old-fashioned constitutional clash between civil libertarians and those who claim certain exceptions are necessary to guard the overall public welfare. The entire issue of whether such evidence is admissible in court can be expected to end up in front of the nation's highest tribunal, and probably will come bouncing back to Congress for modification of the law one way or another. In the meantime, it wouldn't hurt to remember this name: Tom Charles Houston. Houston was a very young presidential aide in the tumultuous days of the Vietnam protest movement when White House paranoia was at an all-time high and aides to Richard Nixon were convinced the anti-war activists, including some pretty nasty bomb throwers, were being financed by our overseas enemies. Houston proposed a solution. Suspend most of the civil protections, including warrants for wiretaps and other electronic means of spying on Americans, in the name of national security and go after the kids. Unbelievably, the "Tom Charles Houston Plan," or just "The Plan," as it was known, received the approval of top authorities throughout the intelligence community, the National Security Council and the White House higher echelon. Only one man refused to sign off and the failure to convince him doomed the plan. J. Edgar Hoover saw it as both as an unprecedented attack on civil liberty and a threat to his own control of counterintelligence. Minus the support of the FBI director, the Nixon White House did not dare to move forward, and so Tom Charles Houston became just another of those misguided figures who haunted Washington during the Watergate era and weren't heard from afterwards. His aborted plan was a short sensation at a time of great sensationalism. But it also served as a dramatic reminder of how frail and always close to extinction our personal privacy and individual rights remain, particularly in an age of never-ending electronic improvements. Before, we were dealing with only the telephone lines over which we all communicate even with our computers. Now we are faced with devices that can capture our words at the instant we stroke the keys to write them. Without the checks and balances and restrictions placed on those we trust to protect us, no matter how well-intentioned they are, almost anything can be abused in the name of public good and too often has been. During debate on an anti-crime bill some years back, when there was a move to dilute the courts' role in electronic surveillance, a wise congressman warned that it could produce a disaster. He said that every proposed law should be examined from the standpoint of the worst thing that could happen under it. The removal of even some judicial restraint, he said, could result in your being arrested for having a Saturday night poker game with the boys. The point he was making is that we always should err on the side of protecting our most precious liberties. If, in the process, someone takes advantage of that, it is the price we pay for our freedom. We should require a court order before a law-enforcement agency is allowed to use this latest device to intercept our communications. If that is an impediment to law enforcement, we would all still be able to sleep better at night.
[CTRL] Onion Routing The Pentagon
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46126,00.html Pentagon Hides Behind Onion Wraps By Declan McCullagh 2:00 a.m. Aug. 17, 2001 PDT Onions may be the secret ingredient in protecting the Pentagon's classified information. During an afternoon presentation at the Usenix Security conference on Thursday, a researcher at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory described a technology known as "Onion Routing," which preserves anonymity by wrapping the identity of users in onion-like layers. "Public networks are vulnerable to traffic analysis. Packet headers identify recipients, and packet routes can be tracked," said Paul Syverson, who works at the NRL's Center for High Assurance Computer Systems. "Even encrypted data exposes the identity of the communicating parties." Even if you bother to scramble the contents of your message, someone snooping your e-mail or Web-browsing habits can still see your Internet address and the address of the person or website with whom you're communicating. In other words, if you're a CIA or military intelligence agent, you don't want to visit the website of an underground group and risk revealing you're coming from a dot-mil network. The Onion Routing solution, which follows much the same recipe as Zero Knowledge's Freedom software and cypherpunk-developed mixmaster remailers, is to forward communications through a complicated network that bounces Internet packets around like pinballs and hides the origin and destination from all but the most determined eavesdroppers. Syverson said that the U.S. government was awarded patent number 6,266,704 for Onion Routing on July 24. That announcement prompted an angry reaction from Usenix attendees, many of whom are programmers, security consultants and system administrators, who aren't big fans of software patents -- especially in the area of anonymous communications, where there's been so much prior work before the Navy ever got involved. Mathematician David Chaum, for instance, wrote an article titled "Untraceable Electronic Mail, Return Addresses and Digital Pseudonyms" for Communications of the ACM as far back as 1981. Lance Cottrell, who now runs anonymizer.com, wrote part of the mixmaster system in the early 1990s, and similar techniques were discussed on the cypherpunks mailing list even earlier. Syverson, who is listed on the patent with co-inventors Michael Reed and David Goldschlag, defended the government's move. "It is a necessary step for those of us working for the government to bring technology to the public," Syverson said. The patent describes Onion Routing, which has been the subject of analysis at previous security conferences, as providing "an electronic communication path between an initiator and a responder on a packet-switching network comprising an onion routing network that safeguards against traffic analysis and eavesdropping by other users of the packet switching network" such as the Internet. Onion Routing works though a complex system of several routers that wrap data in successive layers of public key encryption to prevent anyone from identifying what is in the packet. The trick is that the original sender of the packet and the packet's destination are wrapped up within these layers of code "The originating proxy server knows the routing topography and picks the route the packet will take at random," Syverson said. This year's Usenix Security confab -- the next one is in San Francisco -- was most notable for a packed presentation Wednesday, where Princeton University professor Ed Felten and his co-authors presented a paper describing how they broke a digital watermarking scheme. Music industry groups, including the Recording Industry Association of America, had warned at one point of a possible lawsuit under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act if Felten described the paper at a previous conference in April. They now say that they never threatened the research team. Another paper presented was titled "Inferring Internet Denial-of-Service Activity," which describes a novel technique to learn the frequency of denial-of-service attacks. Typically denial-of-service attacks work with an attacking computer forging a return Internet protocol (IP) address. By tracking how often bounced messages return to a certain range of IP addresses during a three-week test period, the researchers reported they were able to observe over 12,000 attacks against more than 5,000 targets. The technique, called "backscatter analysis," was developed by authors David Moore, of the San Diego Supercomputer Center, and Geoffrey Voelker and Stefan Savage at the University of California at San Diego. Andrew Osterman contributed to this report
[CTRL] Proof Social Security Is Unnecessary
-Caveat Lector- Whip-round for prostitute, 82 http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/08/18/wbul18.xmlsSheet=/news/2001/08/18/ixhomef. html POLICE in Taiwan have raised money to keep a prostitute aged 82 off the streets. They have collected £400 for the woman, identified only as Chiu but known in Taipei, the capital, as Grandma. Chiu, arrested on Thursday for taking a 52-year-old man to her flat, stayed in business by charging as little as £6 a time. Police said they had also asked social workers to find free or cheaper lodgings for Chiu, a prostitute for 40 years. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] To die for.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/16/01 10:39:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You DO know that Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad agent don't you? Are you suggesting that this possibility is absurd? Why exactly are you on this list if not only to parrot the ADL/Zionist line? Bill. === I was on this list long before you started doodling here cowboy. I have done more in defining and developing the REAL conspiracy of our era than just about anyone else. And not just here either. I don't deal with Jewish subjects unless they are racist crap like yours. I don't care if you support the Palestinians or not. But if you do, and post drivel I'll call you on it. I'll say it again so that even a clown like you can understand. I am not a Zionist and never was. I don't even like the ADL because I hate establishment elites. What you in your pathetic Saba like ignorance call the ADL/Zionist line is simply what we all have in common. It makes no difference if you like that or not. And yes the Lewinsky thing is absurd.(Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.) And so are you and your looney reptilians. Joshua2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Greenpeace worried by 'mystery DNA' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- That does not surprise me in the least, William. It is people with points of view that make Greenpeace necessary, and give many of us even more reason to generously support these worthwile environmental causes as much as possible. :-) Steve On 17 Aug 01, at 18:42, William Bacon wrote: You know what? I don't care one bit what greenpeace thinks! And Idon't even give a flying f*** what this this marxist/leninst/socilaist Greenpeace is allegedly worried about Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Jonah Goldberg in the Washington Times
-Caveat Lector- Jonah Goldberg A Mexican suicide bomber walked into a pizza restaurant in a Santa Fe, N.M., mall this morning, killing at least 15 people, mostly children. Up to a hundred others were wounded. The bodies of two young boys who had been playing hooky from school were found in a cave outside of Phoenix. They had been beaten to death, and their bodies mutilated. Authorities are looking for Navajo separatists they believe are responsible. Militia in Tijuana, Mexico, fired rocket grenades into downtown San Diego, killing 20, wounding 50 and, once again, snarling morning traffic. It's more than a little uncomfortable ascribing such barbarous crimes to completely innocent folk. Still, imagine if such things happened here instead of in Israel on an almost daily basis. How do you think the United States would respond? Indeed, the comparison is less outlandish than you might think. After all, the United States took land from American Indians. It took land from Mexicans. In a sense, we even took land from the British. And, no matter how you slice it, America's claim to Texas and the Southwest is certainly far less morally compelling than Israel's is to its land. When the European Jews not already living in Palestine arrived there after World War II, the area was largely empty. What is today called Jordan was the historic home of many Palestinians. And, after all, even the most militant Muslim must concede that the Bible places the land as the historic home of the Jews. Meanwhile, when European colonists came to North America, they had no historical claim to the land whatsoever and, besides, it was occupied. But for the sake of argument, imagine if Mexican irredentists or Indian militants took it upon themselves to routinely blow up innocent civilians. America, conventional wisdom dictates, couldn't handle watching young (italics) soldiers (end italics) being killed in Vietnam. How would they handle seeing young girls shopping for the prom being blown to unrecognizable bits outside the Gap? Or US Army Reservists being killed by mobs of Mexican day-workers? Or old ladies being shot by sniper fire? My guess is that most Americans would see, with abundant clarity, that such violence would have to be stopped. Unfortunately, Israel doesn't get the same consideration. Last week, when a suicide bomber blew up a Sbarro restaurant in Jerusalem full of kids, killing 15 people and wounding 100, Israel responded by seizing control of some Palestinian military installations. Secretary of State Colin Powell's response? I hope that both sides will act with restraint, Powell said. They both have to do everything they can to restrain the violence, restrain the provocation and the counter-response to the provocation. This is the equivalent of saying that if someone sucker-punches you, you are just as wrong for punching him back in self-defense. In fact, it's worse than that because Israel never (italics) intends (end italics) to kill innocents. When terrorists kill Israeli civilians, Israelis attack terrorist strongholds, military targets and bomb-making infrastructures. Sometimes, they've even used rubber bullets. But even when the payback is unambiguously severe, it is always delivered to grown-up, declared combatants. Hence, when Palestinian innocents die it is virtually always an unfortunate byproduct of Israeli action. When Palestinians kill, innocents are the target. And yet, night after night, the American media feel compelled to list Israel's unintended casualties alongside Yasser Arafat and Hamas' intended casualties. For example, when two Jewish boys (one of them American) were beaten to death in a cave last May, press reports linked it to the death of a Palestinian baby killed by accident in a crossfire two days earlier. ``In a region seemingly numb to violence, the deaths of both Palestinian and Israeli youngsters have struck nerves on both sides of the conflict, reported a CNN correspondent. But the baby was shot by accident when Israeli soldiers were returning fire on mortars. The baby was, tragically, in the way. But the two Jewish kids were simply murdered. If an American cop shoots a kid by accident in a crossfire, would it then be OK to go out and shoot two kids because their parents are police officers? Well, that's precisely the moral equivalence we've established for the Middle East. Israel offered a stunningly generous peace settlement to Yasser Arafat in the last days of the Clinton Administration. I thought it was foolish at the time, but it turned out to be fortunate, because it showed that the Palestinians cannot accept peace. When Arafat turned down the ultimate land-for-peace deal, even Israeli doves knew, finally, that Israel is the only party willing to take peace
[CTRL] Fwd: PANUPS: DuPont Convicted of Racketeering in Benlate Case
-Caveat Lector- === P A N U P S Pesticide Action Network Updates Service === DuPont Convicted of Racketeering in Benlate Case August 17, 2001 A Florida jury has found DuPont Co., makers of the fungicide Benlate (benomyl) liable for racketeering, negligence, fraud and defective product claims in a lawsuit filed by two Costa Rican-based plant nurseries. DuPont was ordered to pay US$78.3 million to the nurseries, but announced that it would appeal the decision. This is the latest in a long line of cases against DuPont that have resulted in litigation and settlement charges totaling approximately US$1.3 billion to the company over the last ten years. In April 2001, DuPont announced that it would phase out sales of Benlate around the world by the end of 2002. (See PANUPS: DuPont Withdraws Benlate from Market, May 7, 2001 at http://www.panna.org./panna/resources/panups/panup_20010507.dv.html.) The racketeering charges were based on information gathered from internal DuPont documents showing that the company conducted tests in Costa Rica in 1992, but destroyed the records as claims against Benlate mounted. The growers' attorney maintained that DuPont had launched a corporate damage control program by assigning an attorney to supervise the testing, skewing some results and discarding those that were unfavorable. A plant pathologist from Pennsylvania State University, testifying for the growers, stated that DuPont documents dating back to 1980 describe Benlate as an unstable product prone to deterioration in hot, moist conditions. According to his testimony, some plants treated with Benlate grew to only 10% of their expected height, miniature roses in Florida dropped all of their leaves within two days of treatment, and Hawaiian orchids treated with Benlate were too malformed to sell. The plant pathologist attributed the problems to a natural byproduct of the breakdown of Benlate that, in his opinion, turned the fungicide into an herbicide. DuPont's attorney stated that after U.S. testing in 1992, DuPont reached the conclusion, the inescapable biological conclusion, that Benlate could not be the cause of the damage. According to DuPont, the problem was due to a one-time incident of herbicide contamination at a Benlate mixing plant. However, growers' complaints about crop damage continued long after the contamination occurred. In a related story, attorneys representing growers in another Benlate case five years earlier made a side deal with DuPont as part of the settlement. The attorneys, who represented 20 farmers and nurseries suing DuPont for Benlate damage, personally collected US$6.4 million in return for agreeing to never bring another Benlate case against the company. The growers accepted a settlement of US$59 million from DuPont, but were not told about the side agreement with their lawyers, who also received US$20 million in fees for the case. Some of the growers have since filed a malpractice suit against the lawyers and are also seeking punitive damages. DuPont defends the payment to the lawyers saying that the company didn't feel it was in its interest to bankroll the additional cases that these attorneys were threatening to pursue. DuPont maintains that while the side agreement was confidential, the confidentiality did not apply to the lawyers' clients. Attorneys for the plaintiffs are in the discovery phase and no trial date has been announced. Sources: DuPont hit with $78.3 million fine, ditches Benlate, Reuters, August 13, 2001. Costa Rican farmers seek $29 million in Miami trial, Associated Press, August 8, 2001. DuPont suffers blow as Benlate racketeering trial gets under way in Miami, Associated Press, July 9, 2001. Clients sue over secret agreement, Miami Herald, February 22, 2001. Contact: PAN North America. PANUPS is a weekly email news service providing resource guides and reporting on pesticide issues that don't always get coverage by the mainstream media. It's produced by Pesticide Action Network North America, a non-profit and non-governmental organization working to advance sustainable alternatives to pesticides worldwide. You can join our efforts! We gladly accept donations for our work and all contributions are tax deductible in the United States. Visit our extensive web site at http://www.panna.org to learn more about getting involved. === NOTE: Replies to the sender of this message will not be read. To comment, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pesticide Action Network North America (PANNA) 49 Powell St., Suite 500, San Francisco, CA 94102 USA Phone: (415) 981-1771 Fax: (415) 981-1991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:
Re: [CTRL] To die for.
In a message dated 8/17/01 9:45:26 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was on this list long before you started doodling here cowboy. I'll grant you that pardner'. I have done more in defining and developing the REAL conspiracy of our era than just about anyone else. And not just here either. Perhaps you have...say, was that under the Billy Schwartz monniker?? I don't care if you support the Palestinians or not I'm not especially fond of that lot, but I AM offended by racist pograms that OUR government supports...sue me! I'll say it again so that even a clown like you can understand. Ouch!!! Insulting me...typical I s'pose... I am not a Zionist and never was. Methinks you protest too much... What you in your pathetic Saba like ignorance call the ADL/Zionist line is simply what we all have in common. You lost me there Seth...er I mean Joshua... And yes the Lewinsky thing is absurd.(Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.) And so are you and your looney reptilians. Oooh! More insults!!! Go figure!!! Did I touch a nerve there Abe?? Er, "Josh" You need to chill out!! Take a lil' trip to Virginia, breathe some fresh air, take that yarmulke off and expose that nekkid bald spot, shave them outdated sideburns...take yer' shoes off and just kick the F back baby!!! Stress kills! You don't wanna' die before WW3, do ya'? And Moises, er ooopsie I mean Bill, er is that Joshua...this is all in good fun, like shootin' Palestinian children (you know!!!) so relax and just enjoy the ride! Bill. Prolly o'er me limit onlist...but ya' n'er know!
[CTRL] Atlanta woman dies of West Nile
-Caveat Lector- ~Amelia~ Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:40 PM SubjectAtlanta woman dies of West Nile Note the part about six others being tested. One reason this is very serious in the South is that we can have mosquitoes all year 'round. Even in areas where it does get cold, it is usually for a short period of time and then warms back up, causing the mosquitoes to become active. ~Amelia~ Atlanta woman dies of West Nile First fatality in United States this year ASSOCIATED PRESS ATLANTA, Aug. 17 - A woman who lived near downtown Atlanta has died of the West Nile virus, the first reported death from the disease outside the Northeast since the virus emerged on the East Coast in 1999. THE 71-year-old woman was treated at a hospital 12 days for encephalitis before she died Aug. 11 - the first West Nile-related fatality in the United States this year. Tests done by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control confirmed the cause of death Friday. The virus, which can cause deadly swelling of the brain, has killed nine people in New York and New Jersey since 1999. The disease appeared last month in a Florida man, and in dead birds in Florida, Georgia and Virginia. Mosquitoes can carry the virus from birds to humans and other animals. Six other people in Atlanta hospitals with similar symptoms are being tested but no other human cases in Georgia have been confirmed, said Dr. Adewale Troutman, director of the Fulton County Department of Health and Wellness. The woman was identified only as Miss Hill by authorities who said they would not release her full name to protect her family 's privacy. Mayor Bill Campbell and health officials urged residents to be vigilant about mosquito bites, wear long sleeves and use mosquito repellent. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Aleisha Saba recommends this ADL article
Note the ADL has a perpetual Beg A Thon and they write letters and it only costs them a budget of $50,000,000 - that is right, 50 million dollars.what a lovely laundering front this could be or is it and consider one of their biggest contributors was Marc Rich and Meyer Lansky and Moe Dalitz and numerous other notorious murder inc. figures..maybe Joshua's JDL Mosha the Masher is one of them but then, my friends all have fly swatters to take care of those little loud mouthed twerps. This item is interesting and note pull up about their beg a thon for they write letters - and a stamp only costs 37 cents.All this tax free money to fight anti semitism and who are they taking on - the Arabs - they have called the Arabs anti-semites for the assholes evidently do not know that i.e. The Palestinians are the rea semites and the Zionists are murdering them for they are the Nazi anti semites in disguise - and here we go again. Saba From: Aleisha Saba ADL Beg-a-Thon The Winrod Legacy of Hate Background of Bigotry http://www.adl.org/special_reports/winrod/obsession.html Just click on the link above. .
[CTRL] : Geomagnetic Storm Alert
-Caveat Lector- Maybe Steve would send the link to the graph. Anyone know what HAARP is doing? ~Amelia~ - Original Message - To: SpaceWeather.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Geomagnetic Storm Alert Space Weather News for August 17, 2001 http://www.spaceweather.com An interplanetary shock wave hit Earth's magnetosphere on August 17 at approximately 10:30 UT (3:30 a.m. PDT) and triggered an ongoing geomagnetic storm. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras Friday night and Saturday morning. Visit SpaceWeather.com for details. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: I Want to Support ADL in its Fight Against the Haters
ADL is holding its daily Beg A Thon and needs your pennies and nickels for hey they blew that 50 million bucks they had last year (and all they could steal and blackmail from Marc Rich and most of their Mafia familes are in slammer - and to tell the truth, people are just beginning to be a little concerned with their present image. Marc Rich gave them $250,000 and got his parole but still cannot come back in USA for the New York office out to get him ...and Clinton is also being sued over some bribes he took and then did not make good - amounting to a few million dollars and by the way ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS BIG RIP OFF ARE TAX FREE GOLLY GEE and Larry Flynt gives big bucks here too and of course he is the Smut Peddlar backed by ADL and Murder Inc.front for big time drugs. Nice people but take the time to hear them beg for money, money, money - for the foxes need new holes? Saba https://secure.adl.org/
[CTRL] Fwd: Text of Letter ADL sent to NBC
Now here is where your pennies and nickels will go for the ADL has to earn that 50 million bucks they took in. So now they knock the Great Farrakhan - one man who drew over 1 million people without the use of rock bans and worn out aging movie stars as a lure - So the Great Farrakhan is on the ADL hit hate list along with the Miliia and well, Joshua2 by now has put the black trailer trash on his hate list to be submitted to the ADLHey Joshua, still spying on the Michigan Militia? As for that jewish slaughterman, your friend Moshe the Masher - my friends have a bit Swat Team and here we are you little twerp. Saba - an now more from the ADl Beg A Thon - wonder how they get away with this highway robbery -they are worse than Jesse Jackson who, has always counted on the kindness of others. ADL BEG A THON - Remember us in your Will. Home | Law Enforcement | Search | About | Contribute | Contact Nation of Islam Anti-SemitismCombating HateCivil RightsEducation Government AffairsHate Symbols DatabaseHolocaust Interfaith International AffairsInternetIsraelLegislative Action CenterNation of Islam/FarrakhanPress ReleaseReligious Freedom Security for CommunityTerrorism ADL ReportsADL Regional OfficesDore Schary Film/Video AwardsContributeContact ADL ADL Expresses Shock at Farrakhan Interview on Meet The Press ADL Letter to the NBC October 19, 1998 Mr. Bob Wright President NBC 30 Rockefeller Plaza New York, NY 10112 Dear Mr. Wright: We recognize the right of NBC to choose the guests to be interviewed on the network's news programs. At the same time, we feel obligated to express our shock at seeing Minister Louis Farrakhan being interviewed again by Tim Russert on Meet the Press, on Sunday, October 18. While an interview with Minister Farrakhan at the time of the Million Man March could be deemed a legitimate and timely news item, featuring him as a moral authority on national issues on such a prestigious program is as ironic as it is outrageous. Our point is not censorship, but responsibility. Responsible people concerned about serious public issues cannot ignore Farrakhan's consistent and unrepentant record of anti-Semitism and hate targeting whites, gays, and mainstream Black leaders. On yesterday's program, true to form, Farrakhan blamed Jews for controlling and oppressing Blacks, saying, they are the greatest controllers of Black minds, Black intelligence. If ever there was a demonstration of how marginal the need for Farrakhan is on Meet the Press, it was on Sunday's show in his response to Mr. Russert's question about Jews, Zionists, and the Clinton case. Farrakhan repeated some of his worst anti-Semitic ravings and his lunatic conspiracy theories. Interviews such as yesterday's give unwarranted status to Farrakhan as a Black leader while offering him an opportunity to propagate his message of hate which we have all heard before. By now the public knows who Farrakhan is and what he stands for, and so does Meet the Press which has interviewed him three times. Sincerely, Abraham H. Foxman National Director Related Link(s): Farrakhan/Nation of Islam Khalid Muhammad ADL On-line Home | Search | About ADL | Contact ADL | Privacy Policy © 2001 Anti-Defamation League SABA Note: Now I don't think I would want to make the Great Farakkhan or his million man march too angry.. http://www.adl.org/issue_nation_of_islam/adl_letter_to_nbc.htm
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Destruction of America - Part I
-Caveat Lector- June come out of hiding for now we have you lurking on Conspirinoia using what name perhaps Definitely not Max... The Bnai Brith would be more to your liking June right? Not particularly... Then toss in the ADL for you make such a good censor for thembut never tell me you are Irish unless you would be like Broscoe - Jewish Irish perhaps? Nope, Orange Irish. My father and his parents made it a point to wear orange every St. Pat's day. Along with the family Scottish tartan... OTOH, to this very day some of my mother's Dutch relatives will never wear orange or buy an object that is orange... And if you don't understand why, I suggest you go back and study your history, specifically the William Mary period... If there's any Jewish ancestry it would be on my mother's Hungarian side, because no one spoke much about the history of that family; my mother was Catholic, as was her mother and her grandmother, but that is as far back as we can go, and who knows, perhaps somewhere along the line the Hungarian ancestors were forced to convert from Judaism... June ;-) - --- * Check out Alternative Kite Radio -- http://www.altkiteradio.trancetechno com for: * * Alternative Kite Radio (low-bandwidth) * Alternative Kite Radio (high-bandwidth) * Alternative Kite Summer Beachparty Radio (because it's always summer somewhere on the globe) * Alternative Kite Holiday Radio (because everyday is a holiday somewhere) - ---Original Message--- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
