[CTRL] Terror 'Mules': Bombs in Bodies

2001-12-07 Thread Peat




Terror 'Mules': Bombs in Bodies WiredEven if every airport in the United States scanned every bag 
loaded onto every airplane for explosives, and every passenger went under the 
metal-detector, a bomb could still get onto a passenger jet, experts say. The 
Federal Aviation Authority's next generation of holographic body imaging 
scanners can be trumped too. Welcome to the world of the "terror mule." Criminal 
groups running drugs and diamonds into the United States have for years smuggled 
contraband by stuffing it into condoms and having a "mule" swallow the load, or 
by having it implanted surgically or rectally. The same technique can be used to 
smuggle plastic explosives like Semtex past security at an 
airport. Welcome to 
the world of the "terror mule." Criminal groups running drugs and diamonds into 
the United States have for years smuggled contraband by s
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or by having it implanted surgically or rectally. The same technique can 
be used to smuggle plastic explosives like Semtex past security at an 
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[CTRL] Prosescence

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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}}}>Begin
West Virginia - A Choleric Backwoods

by Karen De Coster

Temperate and equilibrating, I adjudged on a  purposefulness that
would avow me as a habitue of Appalachian eminence. Should I,
therefore, parry the mountainous range as a way to sanctify myself in
the borough's confinement, or should I belittle her peak in
glorification of the mighty Egyptian King Montuhotep, who established
his order from his capital at Thebes, over two-thousand years before
West Virginia aroused its collective fabric in a phlegmatic
backwoods?

I unearthed myself in a terra firma outlying, promenading with my own
conjecture as to the nature of the visit. Was the summons from the
Goddess Artemis Diana Ephesus? Or was it from the Ancient Goddess
Grotto, who bequethed to me her quiescent call for her solar deity
worshipped circuitously around the world? Grotto shepherded me to
bethink a righteous human and to teach me to poise in awe of life,
and to descry the cradle of humanity in the flame's flickering light.

West Virginian mountaineers who detect themselves to be placid in a cultural time of 
mucilaginous Fabianism, form the sacredness of the land and prevaricate within each 
soul that is given credence to, as a way to assimila
te their faddish postulates with that of the renaissance in girth about them.

The unabashed pomposity of which there resounds a tacit cornucopia unblemished by any 
Noachian connubiality predestinates those combatants of Appalachia clans that hear, 
and forswear by ornament, a kind of countrified cas
t of mind.

So I came unthwarted by caustic hillbilly types, and I exalted my spirituality, 
between the earth's crust, the loam, and all of Mother Earth's outdoor pawns. And I 
swept silently along, enabling the preternatural, as she
wafts her earthly tones.

December 8, 2001

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economics, the pro-market, anti-statist school of economics which
exalts the accountant as being necessary to capitalism. This
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Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread thew

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a vibration that's motion tracks in a straight line
-- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - -  - - -- --- -- - - -  - -- - - - --
 -- - -- -


Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions.


Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.






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>> one word - light...
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Re: [CTRL] Canadian explorers find 'lost city' off coast of Cuba

2001-12-07 Thread Calvin

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I got this OK.  Calvin

Kelly wrote:
>
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> http://www.nationalpost.com/
> Friday, Dec. 7, 2001 p. A1
>
> Canadian explorers find 'lost city' off coast of Cuba
>
> Andrew Cawthorne, with files from Michael Higgins, National Post
> Reuters, with files from National Post
>
> HAVANA - Canadian researchers believe they have found a 6,000-year-old
> underwater "lost city" built by an unknown civilization.
>
> The find off the coast of Cuba conjures up visions of the fabled lost
> city of Atlantis, although the research team said it is too early to
> draw conclusions about their discovery.
>
> However, using an underwater robot, the explorers have been able to
> confirm granite-like structures, some perpendicular, circular and
> triangular, on the seabed at a depth of 650 metres.
>
> "It's a really wonderful structure which looks like it could have been a
> large urban centre," said Paulina Zelitsky, a Soviet-born Canadian ocean
> engineer.
>
> The researchers from B.C.-based Advanced Digital Communications said
> they believe the mysterious structures could have been built at least
> 6,000 years ago -- or about 1,500 years older than the pyramids at Giza.
>
> "It would be totally irresponsible to say what it was before we have
> evidence," Ms. Zelitsky said. She said the structures might have been
> built by unknown people when the area was above water. She said volcanic
> activity might explain how the site ended up below the Caribbean Sea.
>
> In July, 2000, ADC researchers, using sophisticated side-scan sonar
> equipment, identified a large underwater plateau with clear images of
> symmetrically organized stone structures that looked like an urban
> development partly covered by sand.
>
> >From above, the shapes off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on the Caribbean
> island's western tip resembled pyramids, roads and buildings, they said.
>
> In July this year, ADC researchers, along with the firm's Cuban partner
> and experts from the Cuban Academy of Sciences, returned to the site in
> their ship, Ulises.
>
> They said they sent an underwater robot down to film parts of the area,
> which covers 20 square kilometres. Those images confirmed the presence
> of huge, smooth, cut granite-like blocks, the researchers said.
>
> Most of the blocks, measuring between about two and five metres in
> length, were exposed, some stacked one on another. Others were covered
> in sediment and the fine, white sand that characterizes the area.
>
> The intriguing discovery provided evidence that Cuba at one time was
> joined to mainland Latin America via a strip of land from the Yucatan
> Peninsula, researchers believe.
>
> "There are many new hypotheses about land movement and colonialization,
> and what we are seeing here should provide very interesting new
> information," Ms. Zelitsky said.
>
> ADC is the deepest operator among four foreign firms working in joint
> venture with President Fidel Castro's government to explore Cuban waters
> containing hundreds of treasure-laden ships from
> the colonial era.
>
> The Canadian company already has discovered several historic sunken
> Spanish ships.
>
> In an earlier high-profile find, ADC was testing equipment in late 2000,
> off Havana Bay, when it spotted the century-old wreck of the American
> battleship USS Maine.
>
> The ship had not been located since it blew up mysteriously in 1898,
> killing 260 U.S. sailors and igniting the Spanish-American War.
>
> Atlantis, and its supposed advanced civilized race, has fascinated
> humanity for centuries and is surrounded by myths.
>
> One myth portrays Atlantis as a huge, beautiful continent peopled by a
> race of intelligent, scientific-minded people whose advanced
> civilization was destroyed in a flood or an earthquake after losing a
> major battle against the Athenians.
>
> Others claim it was destroyed during a volcanic eruption.
>
> The Greek philosopher Plato used the rise and fall of Atlantis as a
> parable to show how the gods punished those who worshipped false gods.
>
> Atlantis has been variously placed in the Atlantic, on the island of
> Crete, on the volcanic island of Thera north of Crete, on the Canary
> Islands, in the Bermuda Triangle and in Scandinavia.
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[CTRL] Fwd: PART 2 - WORST KEPT SECRETS OF THE BUMBLING BEAR (CIA-NAZI marriage)

2001-12-07 Thread Kris Millegan



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UNEXPECTED CONSEQUENCES

Members of the Gehlen Org were instrumental in helping thousands of fascist fugitives 
escape via "ratlines" to safe havens abroad --often with a wink and a nod from U.S. 
intelligence officers.

Third Reich expatriates and fascist collaborators subsequently emerged as "security 
advisors" in several Middle Eastern and Latin American countries, where 
ultra-right-wing death squads persist as their enduring legacy. Klaus Barbie, for 
example, assisted a succession of military regimes in Bolivia, where he taught 
soldiers torture techniques and helped protect the flourishing cocaine trade in the 
late 1970s and early '80s.

CIA officials eventually learned that the Nazi old boy network nesting inside the 
Gehlen Org had an unexpected twist to it. By bankrolling Gehlen the CIA unknowingly 
laid itself open to manipulation by a foreign intelligence service that was riddled 
with Soviet spies. Gehlen's habit of employing compromised ex-Nazis -- and the CIA's 
willingness to sanction this practice -- enabled the USSR to penetrate West Germany's 
secret service by blackmailing numerous agents.

...Slow to recognize that their Nazi hired guns would feign an allegiance to the 
Western alliance as long as they deemed it tactically advantageous, CIA officials 
invested far too much in Gehlen's spooky Nazi outfit. "It was a horrendous mistake, 
morally, politically, and also in very pragmatic intelligence terms," says American 
University professor Richard Breitman, chairman of the IWG review panel.

More than just a bungled spy caper, the Gehlen debacle should serve as a cautionary 
tale at a time when post-Cold War triumphalism and arrogant unilateralism are rampant 
among U.S. officials. If nothing else, it underscores the need for the United States 
to confront some of its own demons now that unreconstructed Cold Warriors are again 
riding top saddle in Washington.

[MR. LEE'S ARTICLE ENDS HERE]

*** (C) 'San Francisco Bay Guardian,' Reprinted for Fair Use Only ***


FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE 'GUARDIAN' ARTICLE
ONE: CONCERNING FALSE INFORMATION
by Jared Israel

Mr. Lee writes that General Gehlen passed Washington false information about a 
supposed Soviet buildup and adds that:

"Gehlen's disinformation strategy was based on a simple premise: the colder the Cold 
War got, the more political space for Hitler's heirs to maneuver. The Org could only 
flourish under Cold War conditions; as an institution it was therefore committed to 
perpetuating the Soviet-American conflict."

First, this is speculation presented as fact. Who knows whether Gehlen invented any 
particular piece of misinformation, or whether someone in the CIA instructed him to 
'invent' it.

Second, so what if CIA Nazis sometimes made false reports to heighten tensions or make 
themselves look good. That sort of thing is always possible in intelligence 
organizations. (Graham Greene's wonderful novel, 'Our Man in Havana,' is about a 
British intelligence 'asset' in Cuba who manufactures an entire spy network to keep 
himself employed.)

Indeed, the CIA is itself famous for telling tall tales about the misdeeds of those 
resisting U.S. domination. Such statements help create a provocative atmosphere in 
which aggressive policies seem justified.

The question is not whether the Nazis sometimes misled Washington, or whether Soviet 
intelligence could sometimes use the Nazis against Washington. The question is: what 
were and are Washington's plans?

Did Washington want to crush the Soviet Union and install puppet governments 
throughout Eastern Europe and the Balkans? Does Washington now wish to turn the 
Balkans into a safe rear while it moves NATO bases up to Russian borders in order to 
facilitate 'low intensity war' against Russia? I would argue that the answer to both 
questions is: yes.

The Nazi apparatus was and remains useful in carrying out these strategies.

TWO: HOW MUCH 'INVESTMENT IN NAZISM' IS TOO MUCH? OR: HOW MUCH IS JUST THE RIGHT 
AMOUNT?

Mr. Lee writes:

"Slow to recognize that their Nazi hired guns would feign an allegiance to the Western 
alliance as long as they deemed it tactically advantageous, CIA officials invested far 
too much in Gehlen's spooky Nazi outfit. 'It was a horrendous mistake, morally, 
politically, and also in very pragmatic intelligence terms,' says American University 
professor Richard Breitman, chairman of the IWG review panel."

'Feign allegiance'? What evidence is there that the Nazis were feigning? The problem 
is Mr. Lee is proceeding from his assumption that Washington made a

[CTRL] Fwd: Part 1 - WORST KEPT SECRETS OF THE BUMBLING BEAR - the CIA/NAZI marriage

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by Jared Israel
[Originally Posted 22 May 2001]
[Reposted 2 December 2001]
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Below is an article from the 'San Francisco Bay Guardian', entitled, 'The CIA's 
Worst-Kept Secret.' It discusses some recently unclassified CIA files. These 
documents, 18,000 pages in all, confirm that U.S. intelligence recruited and protected 
Nazis starting at the end of World War II.

I am posting and writing about this article for two reasons. First, it includes some 
useful information about the Nazi-CIA marriage. Second, it presents that information 
from a perspective that I consider at once mistaken and widespread; hence worth 
discussing.

The article was written by Martin Lee. Mr. Lee argues that after World War II, Nazi 
spies duped the U.S. into hiring them, thereby protecting themselves and their 
networks from prosecution.

He cites the example of General Reinhard Gehlen. Gehlen had been chief of Nazi 
intelligence in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. According to Mr. Lee, Gehlen 
fooled spymaster Allen Dulles, who later became Director of the CIA, in the following 
way:

"Gehlen was quickly spirited off to Fort Hunt, Va. The image he projected during 10 
months of negotiations at Fort Hunt was, to use a bit of espionage parlance, a 
"legend" --one that hinged on Gehlen's false claim that he was never really a Nazi, 
but was dedicated, above all, to fighting Communism. Those who bit the bait included 
future CIA director Allen Dulles, who became Gehlen's biggest supporter among American 
policy wonks. " (From the text below)

There's a bit of a problem here.

Starting more than a decade earlier, Allen Dulles, a leading diplomat and spy, and his 
brother, John Foster, a Wall Street insider, had created a financial-intelligence 
apparatus to assist the Nazis. So Dulles had long-standing, friendly relations with 
Nazis. That being the case, why would Dulles be upset if he 'learned' that Gehlen (a 
top Nazi spy) was a Nazi? (1)

Moreover, Gehlen had not been some cloistered spy. His job had not been simply to 
coordinate the gathering of information. He had been a key leader of the work of 
fascist groups in the occupied East, such as the Iron Guard in Romania, the Latvian 
Vanagis and the Croatian Ustashe. These groups committed the most unimaginably brutal 
atrocities against 'Untermenschen', Jews, 'gypsies', Serbs and other Slavs and 
Orthodox Christians, as well as against anti-Nazis, both Communist and non-Communist, 
including various Nationalist groups, which resisted the Nazis. Gehlen was a leading 
war criminal.

Did Allen Dulles know all this? Of course he knew all this. He was a U.S. spymaster 
with almost three decades experience and he had worked with the Nazi leadership for 
two decades. Dulles arranged to have Gehlen secretly brought to the U.S. precisely so 
that the Russians wouldn't get hold of him and put him on trial for war crimes and 
hang him.

Once they had Gehlen safely in the U.S., Allen Dulles and other top U.S. Intelligence 
operatives met with Gehlen and planned a nightmare creation: a vast European 
spying-and-subversion apparatus, controlled by Washington but staffed by hundreds and 
then thousands of Nazi war criminals. The Nazis may have lost the war but Nazism had 
found new life. (6)

Since Allen Dulles knew that Gehlen commanded an army of monstrous war criminals in 
Eastern Europe and Russia, what is the significance of Dulles' supposed (though 
frankly unbelievable) belief that Gehlen was not a Nazi?

Mr. Lee's suggestion that Dulles' rescue and empowerment of Gehlen was somehow less 
monstrous because he was 'fooled' about Gehlen's Nazi beliefs is typical of the way 
the mass media has been whitewashing American foreign policy since 1945.

According to this reasoning, it is a crime if Nazis (or Islamist terrorists) go out 
and commit atrocities on their own. But if they commit atrocities at the behest of 
American leaders who are a) naive about who these Nazis (or Islamist terrorists) are 
and b) are only using these Nazis or terrorists in pursuit of good American values, 
then it is OK. This treats the American foreign policy establishment as if it were 
some perpetual teenager who may have fallen in with a bad crowd, 

Re: [CTRL] Explorers view "lost city" ruins under Caribbean(Alantis?)

2001-12-07 Thread RevCOAL

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From: eric stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> it was about 20 years ago that i first saw aerial
> video from a small plane showing these blocks [easily
> visible from the sky through the water - shallow
> ruins] and it was blatantly obvious to me that they
> were man made...so now, canadian professional
> scientists cash in and make such a case...beaten to
> the punch by a 15 year old who, in turn, was beaten to
> the punch by several investigators...


I suspect that what you remember seeing was something regarding the
so-called "Bimini Road", the blocks that started appearing in 1967 just as
Edgar Cayce had predicted...

It seems that what the Canadians have discovered is something in addition
to the "Bimini Road"...

I remember back in the late 70s or early 80s, either National Geographic or
Smithsonian magazine (I subscribed to both, so I'm not sure which it was)
had an article on studies that had been done on the "Bimini Road", and
stated that the conclusions that had been made at that time was that the
so-called 'road' was really the top of walls that had been built to enclose
a harbor, and that its construction strongly suggested a Phoenecian
influence; it was conjectured that if more underwater archeological studies
were undertaken in the area, that evidence of a city would be found
nearby...perhaps that is what the Canadians have discovered...

I always thought it was interesting that a mainstream magazine would print
an article postulating that the Phoenecians had not only sailed to the New
World, but had actually built at least one major port; I also found it
interesting that this study disappeared from the mainstream as quickly as
it had arisen...



June

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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: From The Wilderness - Damning New Evidence on Insider Trading Connected to 9-11 - More CIA Connections

2001-12-07 Thread Kris Millegan



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David:

 

You are indeed correct and I will forward
this to Tom. We’ll put a corrective statement in Part II. You deserve
credit for your excellent work.

 

Best,

 

Mike

 

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THE KRONGARD FACTOR

By David Guyatt - copyright 2001

With all due respect to Tom Flocco's otherwise
excellent piece titled "Profits of Death" and also in the spirit of
strict accuracy, I feel it neccesary to point out that it was I who first broke
the Buzzy Krongard / CIA connection to the Deutschebanc - Alex Brown shortsales
in the wake of WTC on 11th September 2001. 

This I did in a post to this list dated 29th
September 2001 under the caption "Heads Up - Who shorted the market."
This was in order to expand on an article appearing in the San Francisco Chronicle
under the byline of Christian Berthelsen and Scott Winokur revealing that
profits of $2.5 million from short sales prior to the 11th September attack.

I had in fact been investigating the role of Alex
Brown and Buzzy Krongard in regard to my story on Project Hammer. This revolved
around the San Diego Securities Broker Vanguard Capital who had established a
"securities trading account" for a trading entity controlled by
members of South Africa's intelligence service who, in turn, operated in
conjunction with Executive Outcomes and Sandline International. The latter is a
well known "private" intelligence and covert operations vehicle for
the British government.

Then as now, the Chairman/CEO of Vanguard was Gregory
Serras. Back in 1991, Vanguard was able to entice the South Africans with
"... access to international markets through our clearing arrangement with
Morgan Stanley & Company, Incorporated." Morgan Stanley is one of the
investment banks cited in Tom Flocco's piece as being involved in the pre-11th
September short sales story. Currently, however, Vanguard boasts a close
relationship with Deutschebanc Alex. Brown Inc (see www.vanguardcapital.com). 

Both Morgan Stanley and Bankers Trust - who acquired
Alex Brown via the efforts of Buzzy Krongard (prior to it being taken over by
Deutsche Bank) hail from the J P Morgan stable. Bankers Trust especially, has a
long and distinguished history as well as a close relationship to the Federal
Reserve. Back in the Thirties, the Fed Governor was the powerful and influential
Benjamin Strong. Earlier in his career Strong was head of Bankers Trust
Company.

The full nature of the transactions facilitated by
Vanguard Capital for the South Africans that I have been investigating I will
leave for another day. Suffice it to briefly say that they directly related to
an extremely large multi-trillion dollar transaction dating back to 1989, known
as Project Hammer. This transaction involved the CIA and also General Erle
Cocke of Cocke & Phillips International. For those who don't recognise the
name, Erle Cocke was "the" Washington office of the infamous CIA
proprietary, Nugan Hand Bank.

During the course of the Spring and Summer of this
year, a Washington attorney representing a number of individuals and groups
associated with the Project Hammer transaction had been negotiating in private
to settle a a Court award. This ran into several million dollars and had been
stalled for several years. Negotiations were being conducted with the CIA.
Specifically, they were being conducted with Buzzy Krongard's office.

Is there also a middle eastern dimension to this
story to cozy up to?

Yes, there is.





 





 





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THE PROJECT HAMMER FILE
THE SECRET GOLD TREATY
THE BILDERBERG FILE







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Subject: From The
Wilderness - Damning New Evidence on Insider Trading Connected to 9-11 - More
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PROFITS OF DEATH --
INSIDER TRADING AND 9-11 (Part I of a special three-part Series)

by

Tom Flocco
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Edited by Michael C. Ruppert

[© Copyright 2001. From
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FTW, December 6, 2001 --
On October 9th, FTW broke a story on insider trading connected to the 9-11
attacks on the World Trade Center that sparked worldwide controversy. In that
story we reported how the Israeli Herzliyya Institute for Counterterrorism had
documented that unknown individuals -- with accurate foreknowledge of the
attacks -- had purchased an obvious and unusually large n

[CTRL] Martin-Everybody's Got Their Own Terrorist

2001-12-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.almartinraw.com/column42.html



Everybody's Got Their Own Terrorist
by Al Martin

According to the Friendly Colonel, one of his friends who retired from the FBI and became a local police chief has told him that even in the small city jail he runs they're holding eight suspects under the terrorism act. They're being kept in a separate wing. It's interesting the way it works. The federal government picks up the tab. The sheriff told him that the detainees are not allowed to have any visitors, not even family. They're not even allowed to call a lawyer or have any contact with a lawyer. They can't send out mail or receive mail. As a matter of fact, they're not even allowed to put these guys' names in the computer to say they're holding them. Their names are kept on a separate hand written piece of paper that the sheriff has to keep locked up in his safe. These people are being kept "at the special request" of the Office of Homeland Security.

      Some of the "detainees" have been arrested locally by the local nickel and dime police guys. They keep getting lists of names of people that are "wanted." The county sheriff's office is large enough so they have the ability to get "pink" cables from the Department of Justice. In other words, they keep getting classified cables with seemingly endless lists of names. He said there are thousands of names.

      The sheriff's department isn't obligated to go out and grab them - only if they notice them in their jurisdiction. Thus far, the only thing that's paid for is a per diem for keeping these guys -- and that only circuitously because Washington has to jump through hoops to get them the money and it has to come under the guise of some sort of special funding program that doesn't really exist. They're not getting paid anything extra to go out and look for them, but he has said they have received notification as late as last week that indicated that as soon as "things settle down" and certain remaining pieces of legislation are passed and incorporated into the USA Patriot Act that the locals will be paid to go out and get the people.

      And what nationality are these "detainees"? Perhaps aliens with green cards, or maybe people who wear turbans? Not at all, the former FBI agent admitted that where the nervousness is coming from at senior levels in federal law enforcement is that there are thousands and thousands of people who are being secretly detained in the United States. There are an awful lot of names on this list that are not Arabs. There are an awful lot of names on the list like "Smith" and "Jones" and "Johnson" and "Nelson." And there's no paper trail. Their names are being kept off computers. Even their families don't know where they are.

      The Bush Administration is jumping the gun because even with the authority already given them and with the bills already passed to date to augment that authority, they don't have all the authority necessary to detain people and to do what they're doing, that is, detaining so many people and keeping them incommunicado. They're supposed to wait for the remaining pieces of legislation that are still outstanding to be passed. Then they'll have the authority to do what they're doing - but for right now, they don't. And what the FBI is nervous about is that if this gets dribbled out into the media or gets exposed in a big way, somebody in Washington is going to duck for cover and it's going to leave a lot of local guys with a lot of explaining to do. And they're not going to have any paperwork in their hands to say, "This is what I was told to do."

      Other sheriffs have done the same thing. They're getting these confidential lists of names of people they're supposed to place under detention. They've been ordered to shred them right after. He knows that he (and a hell of a lot of other sheriffs in this nation, are beginning to keep these lists because people are getting concerned about covering their own ass.

      There's a lot of nervousness about who's covering whose ass. As of now, the Department of Justice is not giving out bounties, just a per diem comp, just the standard fee which isn't much. They're not paying them anything extra yet, but they've been told that that's coming, that supposedly they will be getting paid extra for doing this. One thing that the feds have to be careful about is that most of the local jails and the county sheriffs are on a very tight budget.

      They have a special wing of the jail they're using at Huntsville. It's a special wing devoted to this that used to be their "dry-out tank."

      The media has circulated rumors before that there are far more people being detained both domestically and overseas than what the US Government has admitted, but the information in this column is an exclusive report on the details.

      Like the sheriff said, "How many guys with the last name of Smith and Jones can have immigration or green card problems?"

      Of course, e

[CTRL] IDF Chief Tells Emergency Services “Get Ready”

2001-12-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=14266



08:11 Dec-07-01, 22 Kislev 5762

IDF Chief Tells Emergency Services “Get Ready” 

(IsraelNationalNews.com) Over recent weeks, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Shaul Mofaz met with emergency service heads, instructing them to “get ready by mid January” ‘Ynet’ reported. 

A senior military commander stated the military is preparing for a wave of global terrorism or the possibility of a confrontation with one of the neighboring nations. As such, the emergency medical service and fire department have been instructed to begin emergency preparedness exercises which are scheduled to get underway this coming week in conjunction with the army’s Home Front Command. Training will include responding to attacks involving non-conventional warfare. Preparations are being described as “intensive”. 

Army sources are reporting preparedness for possible attacks at several levels. Military intelligence in Israel is not ruling out that Iraq is behind the anthrax envelopes sent around the United States, explaining that now appears the anthrax has been prepared before Sept. 11. 

The quality of the anthrax powder was very high, pointing to the involvement of a country as opposed to an individual effort, with the likelihood being a country in the Mideast. Experts feel that the high quality of the anthrax would indicate time was spent in its preparation, supporting the opinion it was done in advance of the attacks against the Pentagon and World Trade Center. 





[CTRL] Canada backs condemnation of Israel

2001-12-07 Thread William Shannon
http://www.canada.com/search/site/story.asp?id=2E3F9F35-CBC4-4841-8FC7-B66D4DBF9B2D



Canada backs condemnation of Israel
Liberal MP rebukes government for accepting 'one-sided' motion
    
Mike Trickey, with files from Joan Bryden   
The Ottawa Citizen  

Thursday, December 06, 2001

The federal government came under fire again yesterday from opposition and Liberal MPs after Canada supported an international declaration condemning Israel for Geneva Convention violations in the occupied territories without mentioning Palestinian attacks in Israel. 

The declaration, based on the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention guaranteeing civilian rights in wartime, calls on "the Occupying Power to immediately refrain from ... wilful killing, torture and unlawful deportation."

The Chrétien government's Middle East policies faced renewed attack as the statement was adopted by consensus yesterday by the majority of signatory nations to the Fourth Geneva Convention. The United States, Australia and Israel boycotted the meeting, an action that Liberal MP Irwin Cotler and Canadian Alliance foreign affairs critic Brian Pallister thought Canada should also have taken.

"Canada should not participate in any meeting that undermines the integrity of international humanitarian law and that undermines the integrity of the United Nations and their lead offices," said Mr. Cotler, who is an internationally known human rights lawyer.

"I've looked at the draft declaration and in my view it is one-sided. It is critical only of Israel."

"I'm not saying you can't be critical of Israel, and I'm not saying Israel should not be held to account for any violations that it commits," Mr. Cotler said. "But in the light of the horrific terrorist attacks of this past weekend, to single out Israel for differential and discriminatory treatment in holding parties to account and appearing to give, thereby, the Palestinian authorities exculpatory immunity is not a fair and even-handed way of looking at the problem."

Mr. Pallister said the "spineless" Canadian position will only encourage terrorism.

"It defies logic. The prime minister refused to condemn (Palestinian leader) Yasser Arafat for harbouring terrorists, and now the government supports a resolution condemning Israel for defending itself."

Mr. Pallister also again ripped the government for refusing to add the charitable arm of Hamas to its list of terrorist organizations.

"The sole purpose of Hamas is to destroy Israel. The organization uses charitable work as a public relations tool ... to generate sympathy for its terrorist cause and even to run kindergartens for terrorists. The prime minister says that is OK, but Canadians know it is not OK."

Canada has followed the British lead in designating the Hamas military wing as terrorist, but not making the same judgment about its charitable arms.

In Geneva, Canadian delegate Chris Westdahl said Canadians were outraged by the weekend attacks in Jerusalem and Haifa, saying "there could be no justification" for the actions.

He said Canada had remained at the Fourth Geneva Convention conference despite "serious concerns" over attempts to politicize the process. "We believe that declarations which single out one of the parties to the conflict are more detrimental than ever to the diplomatic process."

Mr. Westdahl said Canada accepts that the convention applies to the occupied territories, and Canada supported adopting the declaration on that basis.

However, he emphasized that Canada did not believe a contentious paragraph in the declaration being held up by Arab states as an indictment of Israeli behaviour was meant to condemn Israel.

"In Canada's view, that paragraph reaffirms applicable rules of international law ... and calls on Israel not to violate these obligations, but does not constitute an assessment of whether these rules have been violated by Israel."

He said Israel should apply the convention to the occupied territories, "and the Palestinian Authority should also ensure respect for universal principles of international humanitarian law, including for the protection of Israeli civilians."

The Middle East also featured in a brief telephone conversation between Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and U.S. President George W. Bush yesterday.

The two "compared notes on the Middle East and Afghanistan" when Mr. Bush called the prime minister by phone at 10:15 a.m. to thank Canada for its continuing co-operation, a spokesman for Mr. Chrétien said.

In the 15-minute conversation, Mr. Bush also talked of how Canada could be "a secure source of energy" for the United States and the leaders discussed the softwood lumber dispute and the need to improve trade flow across the border. Mr. Chrétien mentioned that he had been in New York last weekend for the Canadian rally in support of the city and Mr. Bush said "that was great," according to the official.







Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread Mark McHugh

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thew wrote:
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> re: straight lines in the universe
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> one word - light...


Naw.  Light is a vibration.  No straight lines, just very tight wavy
lines.

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[CTRL] Fwd: MAILED ANTHRAX FINALLY THE TRUTH?

2001-12-07 Thread William Shannon



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MEDIUM RARE
By Jim Rarey

December 6, 2001

MAILED ANTHRAX FINALLY THE TRUTH?

It has too often been the case in the last decade or so, the truth about 
important events is first published either on the Internet or in a foreign 
newspaper. And it usually is in direct contradiction to the (authorized) leaks 
from "knowledgable" but unidentified government officials propagated by the 
"mainstream" media. The subject of mailed anthrax has followed this pattern.
Many (too many) Americans will only accept "facts" when they see them on the 
eleven o’clock network news or read them in the establishment newspapers, e.g. 
The New York Times, Washington Post or Los Angeles Times. One of the earliest 
bits of misinformation that probably resulted in several deaths was the 
assurance that those not in the vicinity where the envelope containing the 
anthrax spores was opened had nothing to worry about.
That had to be revised when victims hundred of miles from the capitol came 
down with anthrax poisoning. Cross contamination was finally acknowledged, but 
the danger was downplayed contending that treatment with Cipro (and later other 
antibiotics) was 100% effective in those cases.
We were told that inhalation of anthrax would require a concentration of 
eight to ten thousand spores in the lungs to be potentially fatal. We were told 
initially that the anthrax mailed was "crude" in form and could easily have been 
used by foreign terrorists. This was reinforced by repetitive showings of the 
crude lettering on the envelopes on TV.
As test results began to filter out, the focus of the media changed to the 
"weaponization" of anthrax spores, i.e. milling them down to a diameter of one 
to three microns. (A micron is one millionth of a meter.) This required a degree 
of expertise beyond that of a single individual without access to a fairly 
sophisticated laboratory.
After a spate of "speculation" in the media that a "right wing fanatic" might 
have been responsible, the FBI released a "profile" of its suspect. Predictably, 
they postulated a "loner" who may have worked in a laboratory and acquired a 
couple of test tubes of anthrax he kept in his basement for all these years. 
After the 911 tragedy this person, for his own reasons might have mailed the 
anthrax.
As test results confirmed the (Ames) strain of anthrax used in the mailings, 
attention began to focus on the army’s top-secret bioweapon laboratory at Fort 
Detrick, Maryland. The Ames strain is one of the most virulent (deadly) strains 
available and was in high demand both for developing weapons and vaccines to 
protect against all strains. Ft. Detrick’s records are incomplete but it is 
known to have furnished the Ames strain to Britain’s Porton Down laboratory, a 
number of university and private labs and probably to Iraq.
During the cold war, Ft. Detrick, Britain’s Porton Down, Russia and South 
Africa produced and stockpiled large amounts of toxic biological and chemical 
weapons including anthrax. In 1969, in contemplation of a treaty signed in 1972, 
President Nixon ordered Ft. Detrick to cease production and destroy the 
stockpiles. Although research and development was done at Ft. Detrick, the 
actual production and storage was at the army’s facility in the Pine Bluffs 
Redstone Arsenal in Arkansas.
Now, some thirty years later, the U.S. Government appears to be relying on 
the expertise of two cold war bioweapon veterans, Dr.’s William C. Patrick III, 
and Kenneth Alibek, President and CEO of Advanced Biosystems Inc. (ABS).

Patrick was in charge of the anthrax "weaponization" program at Ft. Detrick. 
He developed a process that resulted in anthrax far more potent than that known 
to have been produced by Britain or Russia. He holds five secret patents on the 
process. The army’s anthrax comprised up to one trillion spores per gram, double 
the amount other programs reached. To put that in perspective, if 10,000 spores 
is a lethal dose, then the two grams said to have been in the envelope addressed 
to Senator Daschle had enough for 200 million lethal doses. A gram is just 
one-twenty-eighth of an ounce.
But even the 8 to 10 thousand spore number is misleading the public according 
to Edgar W. "Bud" Larson, one of several other Ft. Detrick veterans who granted 
on the record interviews to Scott Shane of the Baltimore Sun. Larson says that 
number (which he helped develop) is an average for lethal doses. Depending on 
several factors, 100 spores or less could be fatal. Larson was head of the 
aerobiology division at Detrick. Another veteran of the biowars, Norman M. 
Covert, adds that their experiments showed that spores of one to four microns 
easily escaped from ordinary envelopes, which have pores of ten microns.
Another former Detrick expert is Manuel S. Barbeito who was in charge of 
decontaminating 75 to 100 buildings at Ft. Detrick after the program was shut 
down. He has doubts about the chlorine dioxide cleanup me

[CTRL] Fwd: DEM MALES ON THE JUDICIARY TAKE NOTE: IT TAKES A WOMAN TO STAND UP TO BU...

2001-12-07 Thread Samantha L.

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Unwelcome Bush Civil Rights Appointee Sworn in at White House, Fate Uncertain

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAXWZ86YUC.html

By Will Lester Associated Press Writer
Published: Dec 7, 2001

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush's appointee to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights 
was sworn in at the White House, but the commission chairwoman says there's no room at 
the table.
Cleveland lawyer Peter Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night, in time for the panel's 
regular monthly meeting on Friday. A District of Columbia judge swore in Kirsanow with 
Bush's top lawyer, Alberto Gonzales, looking on.

Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry says the disputed seat on the commission "ought to be 
resolved in the courts." She planned to hold the meeting without seating Kirsanow.

Kirsanow, accompanied by three lawyers, arrived 30 minutes before the commission's 
scheduled starting time and took a seat with others in the audience. The nameplate of 
Victoria Wilson, who has held the seat to which Kirsanow was appointed, was still at 
the U-shaped table where commissioners sit.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim 
that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal 
counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate Wilson's term expired Nov. 
29. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed 
within the letter of the law.

"This was the most productive way to proceed in a cordial manner," Fleischer told 
reporters. "If you're suggesting that Commissioner Kirsanow should have shown up today 
asking Commissioner Berry to do something that she's indicated she wouldn't, that 
would have been provocative."

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them 
take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of 
the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights 
leader surprised the Bush team.

Berry says the term of the commissioner Bush wants to replace has not expired.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely 
conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power 
over the commission.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb 
Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six 
commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already 
announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace, Yvonne Lee, whose 
term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be 
split 4-4.

Wilson, an independent, often sides with Berry. She was appointed in January 2000 to 
replace Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., who died in 1998.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, at the time 
Higginbotham's term would have expired, and that this expiration date was spelled out 
in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new 
commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry 
on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing 
Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General 
John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.

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Re: [CTRL] swinburne DID study, bioweapons in the US

2001-12-07 Thread Smart News

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Articles are below.





11/12/01 - Latest research findings shed light on multiple personality
disorder - "Scientists at Swinburne University have conducted a world first
study into the psychiatric condition Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID),
previously known as Multiple Personality Disorder.  Simply put DID patients
may have a host personality that splits into personality fragments called
alters. The research at Swinburne has shown clearly different brain patterns
between the DID host and each personality or alter, a finding which could not
be reproduced by professional actors emulating the child alters."The
results clearly show there is something different about people with DID. DID
patients have usually suffered severe trauma during their childhood. Some
people have questioned the authenticity of the alter personalities or
suggested they are induced by therapists.

"Taken in conjunction with other scientific evidence the study's findings
suggest that there is more to DID than these explanations. It is also
possible that further down the track that EEG coherence analysis could be
used by practitioners as a supportive diagnostic test for the disorder."  The
research entitled EEG Coherence and Dissociative Identity Disorder is
published in the Journal of Trauma and Dissociation, Volume 3 Issue 1.
Contacts: Dr Joseph Ciorciari, (03) 9214 8363 Heather Crosling, Media
Liaison, (03) 9214 5968 or 0416 174 962"
excerpt from http://www.swin.edu.au/corporate/marketing/media/mpd.htm

The September 11th Sourcebooks - The Nixon Administration's Decision to End
U.S. Biological Warfare Programs  National Security Archive Electronic
Briefing Book No. 58  Edited by Dr. Robert A. Wampler ... Perhaps the most
troubling and terrifying development in the wake of the terrorist attacks of
September 11th is the emergence of biological warfare as a real, instead of a
potential, threat for our government and the public to confront. To provide
the historical context for this new threat, the National Security Archive
published on October 25, 2001 key declassified documents on President Richard
Nixon's decision to halt the U.S. biological warfare program. In this updated
briefing book, the Archive is making available the official history of the
U.S. Army's activities in the U.S. biological weapons program (see Document
No. 26).

New revelations in the news now make this history even more vital to
understand, since the mailed anthrax that has killed five Americans in recent
weeks may have come from the U.S. program, not from foreign sources As
detailed in the committee hearings (see Document 25) and discussed in Germs,
these hearings revealed that the CIA had long been involved in stockpiling
biological agents for use in assassination attempts on foreign leaders, most
notably Cuba's Fidel Castro, and had worked closely with Ft. Detrick in this
program between 1952 and 1970.

Equally troubling was the evidence that the CIA had maintained a small
stockpile of biological agents and toxins in violation of Nixon's ban that
were capable of sickening or killing millions of people. Among this stockpile
was 100 grams of anthrax, as well as smallpox, Venezuelan equine
encephalomyelitis virus, salmonella, and clostridium botulinum, or botulism
germs.(7)"

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[CTRL] Iraq Says to Consider Return of Weapons Monitoring

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011121/wl/iraq_un_sanctions_dc_1.html

Wednesday November 21 3:27 PM ET

Iraq Says to Consider Return of Weapons Monitoring

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq said it would consider
accepting monitoring of its weapons program if trade
sanctions imposed by the United Nations were lifted.

``We will consider a return of the monitoring (of
weapons) after the lifting of sanctions,'' Iraq's
Foreign Minister Naji Sabri said in an interview with
the London-based Arabic-language Alhayat newspaper
published on Wednesday.

U.N. weapons inspectors have been barred from Iraq
since December 1998.

The last team left shortly before the United States
and British launched a bombing campaign after the
weapons inspectors said Baghdad was obstructing their
work.

The arms experts had been trying to investigate sites
where Iraq was suspected of storing or manufacturing
weapons of mass destruction.

Sabri said the U.N. Security Council should first lift
sanctions and rid the Middle East region of weapons of
mass destruction before Iraq would consider allowing
any new monitoring.

On Monday the United States accused Iraq and North
Korea of having biological weapons.

Iraq admits it once had a program to develop germ
warfare weapons, but says all stocks were subsequently
destroyed.

However, Washington says Baghdad has strengthened its
biological weaponry since barring the U.N. inspectors.

The United Nations imposed sanctions on Iraq after it
invaded Kuwait in 1990.

Baghdad has rejected a U.N. resolution adopted in
December 1999 which calls for the suspension of
sanctions if it allows weapons inspectors to return.

Sabri also said he expected a normal rollover of the
U.N.-administered oil-for-food deal when it comes to
an end in November 30.

The Security Council must approve a resolution either
to extend the current program or revamp it.

The program allows Baghdad to sell oil to buy food and
medicine. The oil revenues are controlled by the
United Nations, which pays suppliers of goods to Iraq.




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[CTRL] First cracks in accord as warlord boycotts council

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.khilafah.com/1421/category.php?DocumentID=2807&TagID=2

First cracks in accord as warlord boycotts council

The Bonn agreement, which is supposed to bring
stability to Afghanistan, began to unravel within a
day of being signed. General Rashid Dostum, the most
powerful warlord in the north of the country, said he
would boycott the interim government because his
faction had been treated unfairly.

A day after the delegates in Bonn said they believed
the interim government fairly represented the many
factions in Afghanistan, the general disagreed. "We
are very sad," he said. "We announce our boycott of
this government and will not go to Kabul until there
is a proper government in place."

Nobody can afford to ignore General Dostum, the
leading warlord from Afghanistan's ethnic Uzbeks. He
and his allies control five provinces in the north,
including Mazar, one of the most important cities and
a vital transit corridor to Uzbekistan. He heads one
of the largest and most effective private armies in
the country.

It was his victory in Mazar-i-Sharif, which he once
ruled as his privatef iefdom, that started the
collapse of the Taliban across Afghanistan, as he did
not hesitate to point out yesterday. "There are
intellectual people in Junbish [Dostum's party]
without whose sacrifice and struggle the Americans
could not have defeated the Taliban and terrorism. We
actually caused the demise of the Taliban," he said.

General Dostum, a man who has changed allegiances many
times, may be feeling let down by his American allies.
A month ago, they were busy arming him with a view to
capturing Mazar as a forward base. But within days of
the fall of Mazar, most of the rest of the country
folded as well. Now that the Taliban's stronghold in
the north, Kunduz, has fallen, the general may fear he
has outlived his usefulness to the Americans.

Sayed Ahmad Gailani, an ethnic Pashtun leader, also
condemned the Bonna greement, saying: "Injustices have
been committed in the distribution ofm inistries."
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a hardline Islamic warlord in
exile in Iran, complained as well.

But it will be General Dostum's anger that will cause
the most immediated isquiet. Soldiers under his
command were involved in the fierce fighting last week
at Qalai Janghi fortress jail where at least 150
Taliban prisoners of war were massacred. During the
civil war in the Nineties he was one of those
responsible for the devastation of Kabul and the
deaths of some 50,000 civilians.

If he stands by his refusal to take part in the
interim government, it could be fatal to the chances
of the new premier, Hamid Karzai, uniting Afghanistan
after 22 years of war.

General Dostum said he had demanded the foreign
ministry for his party,J unbish-i-Milli, but had been
given only the agriculture and mining and industry
portfolios. The foreign ministry went to Abdullah
Abdullah of the NorthernA lliance, which also took the
two other most important ministries, defence and
interior.

Although General Dostum nominally allied himself with
the Northern Alliance for the purposes of overthrowing
the Taliban, there are deep rifts between them.
General Dostum was a long-standing rival of the
Northern Alliance's murdered warlord, Ahmed Shah
Masood.

The Bonn conference was presented with a fait accompli
by the NorthernA lliance, once it had captured the
capital, Kabul. The agreement on the interim
government compromised by allowing the Tajiks to keep
their grip on the most powerful ministries, but naming
Hamid Karzai, a Pashtun, as premier. The Uzbeks have
ended up with a handful of minor ministries, and the
Shia ethnic Hazara, who make up almost a fifth of the
population, have done equally badly.

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[CTRL] 9 11 Strategic Deception Desk Update#2

2001-12-07 Thread Ecotoday

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9 11 Strategic Deception Desk Update#2

http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews43updates2.html

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[CTRL] Fwd: [DFN-News] Stonewalled inquiry

2001-12-07 Thread Samantha L.

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Stonewalled inquiry
by John DeSio, Digital Freedom Network
URL: dfn.org/focus/haiti/toussaint-update.htm

(December 7, 2001) Justice remains unserved in Haiti, as the investigation of the 
murder of the country's most popular journalist has stalled with no action seemingly 
in sight.

Jean Leopold Dominique, a wildly popular radio journalist in Haiti, was gunned down in 
front of his radio station on April 3, 2000, in what can only be described as a 
planned assassination. Jean-Claude Louissaint, who was with Dominique at the time, was 
also killed.

Several have been named as suspects in the case, but the one most prominent is Dany 
Toussaint, a young senator with strong ties to Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the country's 
president. And although many consider Toussaint to be the main suspect, parliamentary 
immunity may prevent him from ever being tried in the matter.

Toussaint had long tried to take over Dominique's station, Radio Haiti Inter, for some 
years, due to the broadcast journalist's harsh criticisms of the senator.

"If Dany Toussaint tries anything else against me or the radio and if I am still 
alive, I will close the place down after I have denounced these maneuvers one more 
time and I will go in exile once more with my wife and children," said Dominique in a 
radio address on October 19, 1999, threatening to once again leave his career in 
journalism to protect his family.

The address spoke out against attempts by the senator to force Dominique to speak out 
against public officials aligned against Toussaint's party.

Dominique went into exile two previous times following threats made against him and 
his radio station, but would not have a chance for a third such move. Dominique was 
killed in front of his radio station shortly before the presidential election.

While the Haitian government declared a national day of mourning and bestowed the 
government's highest honor on the broadcaster, the government has done little else to 
help solve the murders. The task of bringing Dominique's and Louissaint's murderer to 
justice has fallen into the hands of a judge whose work on the case has made him the 
target of political pressure.

"All I want to do is apply the law," said Judge Claudy Gassant in an interview this 
past summer with the Miami Herald. "What the others want, I don't know." The "others" 
are Haiti's powerful elite, who do not want this case to be solved.

When the case first fell on Gassant's desk, he insists that he was not fearful for his 
and his family's safety. But since that time, he has been threatened by anonymous 
callers to drop the case, and has even moved his wife and three-year-old son to the 
U.S. state of Florida for their protection.

The basis for the fear and threats is the fact that many powerful people in Haiti's 
government, specifically Toussaint, will be implicated in the investigation.

Gassant has also stated that every branch of the government, including his boss, the 
chief justice of Haiti, will not provide him with the tools needed for the job, and 
block his investigation at every turn.

"The executive is against me, the legislative is against me, and the judiciary, too," 
said Gassant. "I'm so afraid I don't know of whom to be afraid."

For their part, Haiti's justice department has denied any roadblock in the case, 
stating that they have very little to work with, but have provided Gassant with 
certain amenities, such as bodyguards and a laptop computer, to aid his work in the 
case.

Regardless of any decision that Gassant may make, his main suspect, Toussaint, may 
never have to face any trial in the matter, due to his protection under parliamentary 
immunity.

Toussaint, at first, cooperated with Gassant and submitted to questioning in the 
matter, but has refused to do so after the judge directly accused him of the crimes. 
After the judge's charges, Toussaint alleged the judge was using the case for 
political purposes and declaring his innocence.

The senator's colleagues in Parliament have thus far denied any motion to remove 
Toussaint's parliamentary immunity, but may reconsider their stance, due to the 
popular support for the move.

And while many have called for Toussaint to submit to an investigation, one voice has 
been louder than all the rest - Dominique's own wife.

"If he's innocent as he says he is, he should go to a court of law and defend 
himself," said Michelle Montas-Dominique to the Miami Herald, the wife of the slain 
journalist who took over as director of Radio Haiti Inter.

Montas-Dominique, who has been accused by her political foes of engineering her 
husband's death, has demanded that Toussaint lose his immunity and be forced to end 
his stonewalling tactics, "What he's trying to do is stop the whole thing."



Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 12/7/01 1:00:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


its why LA and Detroit et al exploded into riots over Rodney king, while NYC
did not >>

People saw the incident as a chance to even scores and redecorate their homes
for free. Shop owners were on top of their businesses with guns to keep the
looters away. One criminal had loaded  his truck with new furnature, when he
turned his back, another criminal stole his truck and new furnature.

The last time I worked in the Big Apple it was not all love and kisses
between different groups.

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[CTRL] Jury, judge and executioner

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.mediamonitors.net/salehabdeljawad1.html

Jury, judge and executioner
by Saleh Abdel-Jawad

Political assassinations during the current Intifada
have claimed at least 50 individuals from across the
whole political spectrum, including political leaders,
activists from military groups and civilians. Although
Israel's policy may have damaged some of the
operational capacity of the organisations it targets,
its primary effect has been to invigorate the Intifada
with fresh waves of popular outrage. One of the
objectives of political assassinations in the Sharon
era, indeed, is to provoke the Palestinians, thus
justifying reprisals that make it impossible to
address the political agenda.

Assassinations are rooted in Israel's political
culture, and in that of the Zionist movement before
the state's establishment in 1948.

Before the first Intifada, from 1967 to '87, the main
targets of Israeli assassinations outside the occupied
territories were Diaspora PLO cadres, and particularly
senior political leaders from the organisation's
various sub- groupings (though most were from Fatah),
as well as military cadres suspected of involvement in
military attacks against Israel in the West Bank, Gaza
or abroad. During this period, a committee to "fight
terror" was created at Golda Meir's initiative, led by
General Aharon Yariv. During this "ghost war," Israel
rarely claimed responsibility for the assassinations
it carried out.

Within the occupied territories, assassination was not
used against political leaders, whom Israel preferred
to deport. Extra-judicial executions were used
intensively in the Gaza Strip, however, during
Sharon's campaign to suppress the popular resistance
movement between 1970 and '73. The Rimon unit, created
by Sharon -- who at the time was the military
commander of the South -- liquidated tens of wanted
Palestinian activists according to a list updated
monthly. In this way, Sharon laid the foundations upon
which Barak would later build the Mista'ravim
liquidation units (Israeli special forces dressed like
Arabs to infiltrate their targets' communities).

Extra-judicial killings intensified during the first
Intifada. During this period, Israel changed its
original policy as formulated in the 1970s, no longer
restricting assassinations to a select few senior
leaders, but expanding their range to include
middle-rank cadres and grassroots activists -- and,
notably, 25 young Palestinians caught writing
political graffiti. Among them, a 14-year-old boy from
Jenin, Walid Al-Souqi, was shot point-blank while
begging for his life. One hundred Palestinian
activists were assassinated during the first Intifada,
often at the hands of Mista'ravim units. Israeli and
international human rights organisations correctly
termed this policy extra-judicial execution. The first
Intifada also witnessed the targeting of amateur
paramilitary groups allied to Fatah, Hamas and the
PFLP. In what may have been the most poignant example
of Israel's extra-judicial assassinations, a
Palestinian youth was killed by undercover units while
scrawling "Yes to Peace" on a wall on the eve of the
1991 Madrid conference

During the Oslo years (1993-2000), Israel's
assassination policy was mainly restricted to the
Islamist opposition. Notable cases included Yehia
'Ayyash, Mohieddin Al-Sharif, and the 'Awadallah
brothers, all associated with the military wing of
Hamas. Additionally, between the signing of the Oslo
accord on 13 September 1993 and the PA's arrival in
Jericho and Gaza in mid-1994, Israel worked hard to
liquidate what had remained of the paramilitary groups
after the first Intifada.

Several features have characterised assassinations in
the present Intifada. First, they target Fatah
activists as well as Islamists; second, the intensity
of assassinations is unprecedented; third, the
Israelis are using entirely new methods, including
attacks by Apache assault helicopters, Hellfire and
TOW (surface-to-surface) missiles and tanks, as well
as the shelling of houses.

Official Israeli state institutions have not been the
only executors of the assassination policy. Jewish
terrorist organisations working independently, and
composed of extremist Zionists such as the members of
the Jewish Defence League (formerly led by Rabbi Meir
Kahana), have also been extremely active. Kahana
initially chose the United States as the target of his
terrorist operations, before transferring them to the
occupied territories. In the US, the murders of
Soliman Al-Farouqi and his wife, in addition to the
killing of leading Palestinian political activist
Alexander Odeh, are only the better-known examples of
extremist Zionist terror.

Since independent organisations claim responsibility
for such extra-judicial killings, Israel need not fear
political or moral repercussions, although the state
may have participated at least by providing the
perpetrators with moral justification. For example,
the June 1980 attempts to kill nationali

[CTRL] The ParaNet Continuum Live Internet Radio Program...

2001-12-07 Thread Michael F. Corbin

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The ParaNet Continuum Live Internet Radio Program

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[CTRL] query

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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does anyone have the original url from the pakistani
news source stating that 4000 israelis were missing
from WTC on 9-11?


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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread thew

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you got that wrong

here in NYC we have to live on top of each other, so develop tolerance

its why LA and Detroit et al exploded into riots over Rodney king, while NYC
did not


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> << its just not than unusual a sentiment, and its not only in croatia >>
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Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 12/7/01 10:52:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< yes it can be, and yes it is - however throughout most of space there are
not gravitational fields that strong - stars are very very very far apart
so for the most part light travels in a straight line >>

Yes, for today. Who knows what tomarrow will bring. It wasn't that long ago
that scientists were saying that bumble bees couldn't fly.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 12/7/01 10:50:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< its just not than unusual a sentiment, and its not only in croatia >>

True, people tend to not like other groups. This happens in NYC frequently.

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[CTRL] notes re: 2- The Montpelerin Society

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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12.The Mont Pelerin Society:
http://www.montpelerin.org
13.Council for National Policy Membership
Directory, 1984-85; The
Bohemian Club:
http://www.mt.net/~watcher/bohemiangrove.html ; see
also:
http://www.4rie.com/rie%207.html
14.United Nations Non-Governmental Liaison Service
(NGLS):
http://ngls.tad.ch/english/pubs/ru/38demfin.txt
15.United Nations Non-Governmental Liaison Service
(NGLS):
http://ngls.tad.ch/english/pubs/ru/38demfin.txt
16.Russ Bellant, Old Nazis, the New Right, and the
Republican Party,
South End Press, 1988, pp. 63-4.

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[CTRL] notes re: 1 - The National Center for Privatization

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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1.The Center for the Improvement of Human
Functioning International,
Inc.: http://www.brightspot.org/intro.html
2.Masonic Foundations of the United States:
http://watch.pair.com/mason.html
3.David Harris, New Age Adversary Bulletin & Old
Time Gospel Advocate,
Oct. 1993, P.O. Box 298, Arcadia, OK 73007;
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*Author's note: I am indebted to David Harris for
allowing me to use a
portion of his 1993 newsletter on the Council for
National Policy as an
introduction to the following report. David's report,
which was published in
the New Age Adversary Bulletin (October 1993),
provided valuable information
on the Willard Garvey Center for the Improvement for
Human Functioning.
Willard Garvey, a member of the highly secretive
Council for National
Policy, also founded another organization which is
mentioned in this
report -- The National Center for Privatization. I
have added to David
Harris' work information on the National Center for
Privatization and the
Council for National Policy. Mr. Harris' 1993 report
also contained a list
of members from the 1988 and 1993 CNP directories.
Updating this list has
resulted in an extensive database of past and present
CNP officers and
prominent members. ~ Barbara Aho
4.The Belmont Brotherhood:
http://watch.pair.com/belmont.html
5.Brochure for International Conference On Family
Choice/Educational
Vouchers, National Center for Privatization, 1983.
6.Lynn Jacobs, Waste of the West: Public Lands
Ranching, Introduction:
http://www.apnm.org/waste_of_west/introduction.html
7.Ibid., Chapter 1:
http://www.apnm.org/waste_of_west/Chapter1.html
8.Ibid., Chapter 7:
http://www.apnm.org/waste_of_west/Chapter7.html .
*AUM = Animal Unit Months - defined by the federal
government as the amount
of forage and/or browse required to feed a cow and her
calf, a horse, or 5
sheep or goats for a month.
9.The Council for Government Reform:
http://www.govreform.org/history.htm
10.Reason Foundation Privatization How-To Guides:
http://www.reason.org/htg.html
11.Jack Kemp, "Building a Shareholder Democracy in
America:
Personalizing Social Security",
http://www.empower.org/html/campaigns/s-p/Speeches/031000.htm

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[CTRL] The Biggest Secret

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/BiggestSecret_ZR.html

The Biggest Secret
by Howard Zinn, 1975
from the Zinn Reader, Seven Stories Press



Secrets are coming out of the Senate committee probing
the FBI and CIA. But the biggest secrets, I suspect
will remain untouched.

Yes, we learn that the FBI tapped wires illegally,
kept lists of people to be put in concentration camps,
wrote fake letters to destroy personal lives and used
dirty tricks to disrupt organizations it didn't like.
The CIA opened mail illegally, plotted the murder of
foreign leaders and conspired to overthrow a
democratically elected government in Chile.

It is the habit of governments everywhere, including
ours, when caught lying, stealing or murdering, to
murmur a few words of confession, find a scapegoat to
punish and go right on doing its dirty work in more
subtle ways.

Recall: Families were burned to death in Vietnam,
babies were shot in their mothers' arms, Cambodia was
bombed secretly and Laos openly, the land and culture
of 40 million people in Southeast Asia were laid
waste. And then what? Instead of trying Mr. Nixon and
Kissinger for mass murder by terror bombing, we
scolded their flunkies for breaking and-entering and
gave them a little time in jail. Instead of trying the
generals for the massacre at My Lai, we tried Calley
and put him under house arrest.

What will happen now with these revelations on the CIA
and FBI? The usual. A few changes in personnel, a few
new laws. But the same exclusive club of corporate
billionaires, with their teams of lawyers,
accountants, politicians and intellectual advisers
hoping to become Secretary of State, will remain in
power.

For profound changes to come about in this country, we
will have to start revealing to the American public,
and especially to the school kids of the coming
generation, the really big secrets, which no
congressional committee will touch.

First, that there is little difference between Them
(the enemy- Communism) and Us (the West, American,
"democracy") when it comes to a reckless disregard for
human lives in pursuit of something called "national
interest." That "national interest," it usually turns
out, is the interest, over there, of the Kremlin
bureaucracy, and here, the interest of the oil
companies, the banks, the
military-industrial-political complex. When we were
told in grade school that the difference between Them
and Us is "they believe in any means to gain their
ends and we don't"-we were lied to.

People are beginning to catch on. The Spy Who Came in
>From the Cold was the first best-selling novel to
boldly make that point: "Our side" would use ex-Nazis,
would sacrifice the lives of its own people, to score
points in a game whose concern was not humanity but
power.

The current movie, Three Days of the Condor, is even
more explicit. The CIA is portrayed as a group of
sophisticated men using dazzling scientific techniques
to ruthlessly exterminate anyone, including their own
employees, who stood in the way of control of oil in
the Middle East and Venezuela.

Even the fantasies of movie scripts can't match the
reality. There is evidence now that the FBI was
involved in the planned murder of two black leaders in
Chicago on December 4, 1969. A gang of police, armed
with shotguns, pistols, rifles and submachine guns,
and a plan of the house furnished by an FBI informant,
attacked an apartment occupied by Black Panthers, at
four in the morning, and executed Fred Hampton as he
lay asleep in his bed.

The biggest secret of all is beginning to emerge: That
"the enemy" of this government is anyone, here or
abroad, who won't put up with control of the world by
Chase Manhattan, Exxon, General Motors, I.T. & T. It
is chilling but suddenly believable that a government
willing to kill Vietnamese peasants and put Asian
protesters in tiger cages will also assassinate native
Americans and put citizens here in concentration
camps.
That's a heavy secret for us to carry in our heads.
But we need to know it, if we are going to figure out
how to defend our lives and our liberties from those
who have occupied America.



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[CTRL] Downsizing government for principle and profit

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/Privatization_DS.html

Privatization:
Downsizing government for principle and profit
(Part 1: The United States)
by Edward Herman



The U.S. government is encouraging private HMOs to
service much of the Medicare system, and the debate
rages over whether Social Security should be shifted
to private management. Privatization of such public
functions is one of the mantras of the New World
Order. Economic, political and media elites assume
that privatization provides undeniable benefits and
moves us toward a good society.

But while it sometimes reduces costs, privatization is
often less efficient than public enterprise, and
frequently is socially harmful, taking a
disproportionate toll on women and minorities.
Privatization also weakens democracy by bypassing
unions and shifting power away from governments and
non-profit organizations, which can respond to
democratic political processes. Instead, power moves
to corporations that serve only the interests of their
owners and financiers.

Privatization means the shift of activities from the
government and nonprofit sectors to the market. It may
take the form of the sale of public (or non-profit)
sector assets to private companies or the contracting
out of services previously supplied by public
employees.

Privatization is not new. In France before the
Revolution of 1789, the King farmed out government tax
collecting to individuals in a system notorious for
corruption. Along with contracting out the provision
of supplies for the French armed forces, private tax
collecting was the basis of many great fortunes.
Ending this system was one of the French Revolution's
accomplishments.

Throughout the nineteenth century, the U.S. government
engaged in massive privatization through the sale of
millions of acres of public land (a domain greatly
extended by the Louisiana and Alaska purchases and the
seizure of Mexican territory) . Many tycoons derived
their fortunes from shrewd and sometimes fraudulent
public land acquisitions. Abuses in the use and
disposal of public property have continued throughout
the twentieth century, manifested in both periodic
scandals (such as Teapot Dome) and the subsidized use
of public property, which continues today through, for
example, under priced sales of national forest timber,
bargain-rate use of mineral lands, and commercial
broadcasters' free use of valuable air rights.

Western European and Third World governments have
commonly owned airlines, railroads, telecommunications
and electric power systems, and sometimes banks,
petroleum refining and other industrial enterprises.
But in the United States government has been largely
excluded from activities of interest to private
business, and its periodic entry into these fields has
been limited and often stripped away. The government
did take over many private sector activities during
both World Wars I and II, but it speedily privatized
them after the wars.

Since 1932, Congress, under the prodding of business,
has made periodic surveys of government activities
that compete with the private sector, with a view
toward minimizing government competition. Ronald
Reagan's Office of Management and Budget formalized
the pressure on government agencies to minimize
in-house production, ordering government managers to
consider contracting out all functions, including data
processing, janitorial services and vehicle
maintenance.

Despite this long-standing bias against public
enterprise in the United States, with the rise of
monopoly power in railroads, electric power, and
telephones during the late 19th and early 20th
centuries the government created a regulatory
apparatus. It grew with urbanization and the need for
water supply and waste disposal, and the coming of the
automobile and road building. The public sector grew
further with the social democratization that
accompanied the Great Depression and World War II,
including the growth of organized labor and a new
governmental health and welfare apparatus.

Privatizers from the early 1970s onward have been
selling off government property-mainly water and waste
water facilities, parking garages, roads, airports,
public lands and buildings, and mortgage portfolios.

But privatization in the United States has focused
mainly on the contracting out of government services,
including the operation of government-owned
facilities.
State and local governments carry out most public
economic activity, and contracting out at these levels
has soared over the past decade. The Mercer Group, an
Atlanta consulting firm, estimates that between 1987
and 1995 the number of municipalities contracting-out
services increased as follows: janitorial from 52% to
70%, street maintenance 19% to 38%, solid waste
collection 30% to 50%, and data processing operations
16% to 31 %.

This new wave of contracting-out ignores historical
lessons. A great deal of current government provision
of services originated in th

Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread thew

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inside of gravity wells light bends

most of space is sans such wells
-- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - -  - - -- --- -- - - -  - -- - - -
--  -- - -- -
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that
accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due
process of law.


Edward R. Murrow






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> From: "thew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> yes it can be, and yes it is - however throughout most of space there are
>> not gravitational fields that strong - stars are very very very far apart
>> so for the most part light travels in a straight line
>
> Gravity is apparently strong enough to bend light around our nearest
> heavenly body, the Moon, which is most readily observable right before and
> after a solar eclipse (when the sun peeks 'round the horizon).
>
> This simple test was used to prove Einstein's General Theory of Relativity
> in 1919.
>
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[CTRL] mixed muck 12-7

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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As long as the courts judged a law enforcement
officer's suspicions to be justifiable, you didn't
even have to gain a criminal conviction in order to
seize a person's car or cash or even, on occasion,
their other property and bank accounts. And, as a
result, agencies had fallen over themselves trying to
take advantage of their easy new source of revenue.
Asset forfeiture was proving such a bonanza that even
the Bureau of Land Management had set up their own
anti-drug SWAT team. Six in ten of these inmates were
serving sentences for drug crimes. Fully 56,238 were
African American.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Prison_System/Prison_Nation.html

You Heard Them Right, the National Guard Is
Considering Shooting Old Ladies
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/terror2001/quar7_20011107.htm

Fascism was forged in the crucible of post-World War I
nationalism in Europe. The national aspirations of
many European peoples--nations without states, peoples
arbitrarily assigned to political entities with little
regard for custom or culture--had been crushed after
World War I. The humiliation imposed by the victors in
the Great War, coupled with the hardship of the
economic Depression, created bitterness and anger.
That anger frequently found its outlet in an ideology
that asserted not just the importance of the nation,
but its unquestionable primacy and central predestined
role in history.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/WhatisFascism.html

For years Colombia was banned from receiving U.S.
military or drug fighting money due to its poor human
rights record and its failure to cooperate in the drug
war. In 1998 they received $89 million, and this year
the total reached $289 million. Despite continued
human rights abuses. Colombia is now the third largest
recipient of U.S. military aid after Israel and Egypt.
Direct U.S. military intervention looms on the horizon
for this region, which exports more oil to the U.S.
than the entire Middle East.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CIACocaineDeathSquads.html

COINTELPRO changed the political environment. It
changed how people perceived those individuals who
fought for change. Police agents infiltrated the
Panther Party and caused the leadership to abandon the
struggle. We were placed in jail. We had to fight
constantly to raise bail. Once the atmosphere changed,
the support that had been there initially disappeared.
When I was finally convicted, there was nobody in
court but the police, district attorneys, and the
prosecutors. They were successful because there was no
one in court for me. They believed the hype.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Prison_System/SpeakingTruthPower.html

The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World
Management
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Trilateralism/Trilateralism_Sklar.html

Just remember that whatever you do, MAKE SURE DRUGS
STAY ILLEGAL. It would cause us to lose our market in
America if you did anything different. That would take
away the profit we use to support our gangs, dealers
and other illegal activities. We know we can count on
you just like we have in the past.
http://www.memes.org/article.php?sid=657&mode=thread&order=0

The FBI has a dual role, the familiar crime busting
role and a lesser known counter-intelligence role
(equivalent to MI5 in the UK). It is in
counter-intelligence that the worst excesses have
occurred. Under J Edgar Hoover, the FBI instigated
COINTELPRO. To Hoover, hunting down Commies was far
more important than crime busting, anything left of
Genghis Khan was a threat to national security. As a
result organised crime was allowed to flourish, for
many years Hoover refused to admit to the existence of
the mafia.
http://www.heureka.clara.net/sunrise/spooks2.htm

While many nations have a terrible record in modern
times of dealing out great suffering face-to-face with
their victims, Americans have made it a point to keep
at a distance while inflicting some of the greatest
horrors of the age: atomic bombs on the people of
Japan; carpet-bombing Korea back to the stone age;
engulfing the Vietnamese in napalm and pesticides;
providing three decades of Latin Americans with the
tools and methods of torture, then turning their eyes
away, closing their ears to the screams, and denying
everything ... and now, dropping 177 million pounds of
bombs on the people of Iraq in the most concentrated
aerial onslaught in the history of the world.
http://members.aol.com/bblum6/iraq2.htm

The United States began supporting Afghan Islamic
fundamentalists in 1979 despite the fact that in
February of that year some of them had kidnapped the
American ambassador in the capital city of Kabul,
leading to his death in the rescue attempt. The
support continued even after their brother Islamic
fundamentalists in next-door Iran seized the US
Embassy in Teheran in November and held 55 Americans
hostage for over a year. Hekmatyar and his colleagues
were, after all, in battle against the Soviet Evil
Empire; he was 

Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin

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- Original Message -
From: "thew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> yes it can be, and yes it is - however throughout most of space there are
> not gravitational fields that strong - stars are very very very far apart
> so for the most part light travels in a straight line

Gravity is apparently strong enough to bend light around our nearest
heavenly body, the Moon, which is most readily observable right before and
after a solar eclipse (when the sun peeks 'round the horizon).

This simple test was used to prove Einstein's General Theory of Relativity
in 1919.

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[CTRL] Gold With An "R"

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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From
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-
dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A7124-2001Sep21

}}}>Begin
Pat Robertson's Gold

By Colbert I. King

Saturday, September 22, 2001; Page A29

Last week's terrorist attacks brought out the worst in televangelists
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Three days after hijacked jetliners
slammed into the Pentagon, the World Trade Center and the
Pennsylvania countryside, Robertson posted a statement on his
Christian Broadcast Network (CBN) Web site announcing that
pornography, rampant secularism, the occult, abortion, the absence of
prayer in schools and insults of God "at the highest level of our
government" had sent the Almighty over the edge. America was
attacked, Robertson asserted, "because God Almighty is lifting His
protection from us."

Appearing on CBN's "700 Club" the day before Robertson's blast,
Falwell had also cut loose.

Falwell (who you may recall feared that Tinky Winky the Teletubby was gay and out to 
damage the moral lives of children) singled out homosexuals, supporters of abortion 
rights, pagans, the American Civil Liberties Union a
nd People for the American Way as groups to blame for the Tuesday massacres. But a day 
later and facing a firestorm of criticism, Falwell backtracked. Labeling his own 
comments "insensitive, uncalled for at the time, and
unnecessary as part of the comment on this destruction," Falwell said he blamed no one 
but the hijackers and terrorists for what happened.

Robertson, who had joined Falwell's blame game during the show, ("Jerry, that's my 
feeling") cut and ran when it hit the fan. "Severe and harsh in tone" was how 
Robertson characterized pal Falwell's remarks in a later pre
ss release. "Totally inappropriate," he later said during a Fox News appearance.

Well, the Rev. Falwell has advanced to the rear, so let's let him be for the moment. 
Robertson, however, is another matter. He still thinks God removed His protection from 
the nation, thus allowing our enemies to give us
what we deserve.

What's more, to hear Robertson tell it, one of the abominations prompting God to hide 
his face from America is this country's self-indulgence, pursuit of financial gain and 
focus on wealth.

Which is the subject of today's column, and the basis for this humble question: What, 
pray tell, does the Good Lord make of Pat Robertson's gold-mining venture in Liberia 
with Charles Taylor, international pariah and one
of the most ruthless, greedy and terror-producing heads of state in all of sub-Saharan 
Africa?

What? He didn't know?

Well it probably slipped Robertson's mind, busy as he is in getting people to send in 
those checks, money orders and love offerings to support his cause. How the reverend 
found time to hook up with Taylor, I'll never know
.

But in May 1999, Robertson, through Freedom Gold Limited, an offshore company 
registered in the Cayman Islands but based at CBN headquarters in Virginia Beach, 
signed an agreement with Taylor and key cabinet members allow
ing the for-profit Freedom Gold to explore and receive mining rights in southeastern 
Liberia, where gold is believed to be in the ground.

It's a great deal for Liberia, which is now an economic basket case thanks to the long 
civil war and Taylor's corruption. It's also good for Freedom Gold, which was formed 
by Robertson in 1998. Liberia -- and for all prac
tical purposes we're talking Taylor -- gains 10 percent ownership of Freedom Gold.

As The Post's Douglas Farah reported in January, huge amounts of the country's funds 
have been siphoned off by a small group of Taylor's associates and relatives. Taylor 
"has his hand in everything and gets a cut of every
thing," a businessman told The Post. Other Liberians, probably Taylor's gang, are 
entitled to buy at least 15 percent of Freedom Gold's shares after the exploration 
period.

In a phone interview on Wednesday, Joe Mathews, Freedom Gold's vice president for 
finance and administration ("actually I'm acting as managing director," he confided), 
said the company is currently in the exploration stag
e but "there is little activity at the moment because it's monsoon season."

He said gold has been found, but whether it is a viable venture has not been 
determined. Mathews confirmed reports that Freedom Gold is committed to spend $15 
million during the exploration phase, but he said it has yet t
o spend anything close to that amount. The deal with Liberia gives Freedom Gold 
exploration rights for five years, and an additional "20 years to mine it," Mathews 
said. Liberia is currently collecting exploration and ren
tal fees from Freedom Gold; the government also will pocket royalties and rental fees 
once production gets underway.

Yesterday Fisher also faxed a letter stating that the company has shown it is "a 
responsible corporate citizen." He cited company-built wells and pumps for safe 
drinking water, a free medical clinic that serves 1,000 pati
ents a month from surrounding vil

[CTRL] Another BOB

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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(Bend Over Billy)
Another true UN-American

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Honorary knighthood for Billy Graham
By Caroline Davies
(Filed: 07/12/2001)

THE American evangelist Billy Graham was made an honorary knight
yesterday at a ceremony in Washington.

The Christian minister, who claims to have preached the Gospel to
more live audiences than anyone in history, was knighted by Sir
Christopher Meyer, the British Ambassador, on behalf of the Queen.

He was honoured "for his huge and truly international contribution to
civic and religious life over 60 years", said a Foreign Office
spokesman.

Billy Graham, 83, has taken his message to more than 210 million
people in more than 185 countries. He has acted as confidant to every
US President since Harry Truman in 1945 and has met the Queen several
times during his tours of Britain.

The award, Honorary Knight Commander of the Order of the British
Empire, is made to foreign nationals. Holders should not use the
title Sir, but are entitled to the letters KBE after their name.


30 July 2000: Billy Graham passes torch to followers in 'great peace'

29 July 2000: Graham too ill to launch new crusade

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[CTRL] Racicot

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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Thursday December 06 02:26 PM EST

Racicot's Business Ties Extensive

By Marc J. Ambinder ABCNEWS.com

Marc Racicot, the president's choice to be RNC chair, has connections
to business interests, sparking questions from Democrats and good-
government groups.





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The man President Bush has chosen as his new Republican National Committee chair has a 
raft of personal connections to business and lobbying interests with big stakes in 
Bush administration policy, documents and interview
s with his associates show.

Even before Marc Racicot's nomination was cemented with a Wednesday Oval Office 
meeting, Democratic party operatives, good-government groups, and media watchdogs 
sprang into action, flooding e-mail inboxes with details of
 Racicot's lobbying efforts.

There's nothing illegal or unprecedented about a party chair continuing to work in the 
private sector — just some questions about appearances, and lots of partisan fodder, 
stirred up in some measure by the still-unannounc
ed arrangements between Racicot and the RNC about what type of outside income he'll be 
allowed to earn.

Racicot insists that he will maintain the highest level of ethics, and curtail any 
business dealings that might cause a conflict or embarrassment for the White House or 
the party. However, whether he will scale back or el
iminate direct advocacy of Congress and/or the Administration is not known.

Candidates with superior communication abilities — and a big rolodex of contacts — 
often take a big pay cut to join political parties. Given recent inquiries into the 
lobbying connections between parties and lobbyists, la
wyers nowadays tend to frown on direct, paid advocacy, particularly since the party 
chairs can recruit and assist candidates who might one day be in a position to 
influence appropriations and regulations.

According to lawyers knowledgeable with previous arrangements, many party chairs, co- 
chairs and operatives shift their responsibilities at their private sector firms, 
providing what amounts to strategic advice and openin
g doors for new clients, but not engaging in direct lobbying.

Top Democrats and Republicans are engaged in a quiet game of chicken, with Democrats — 
to the professed surprise of some Republicans — aggressively pointing out some of 
Racicot's recent business ties and publicly calling
his intentions to continue some of them improper. Among other things, Democrats have 
pointed out that conservative activist Bill Bennett turned down being RNC chair after 
he decided he thought it wasn't compatible with ea
rning outside income.

Democratic party spokesperson Jennifer Palmeri concedes that past chairs of her own 
party have worked simultaneously as lobbyists, but says that evolved ethics standards 
make this practice no longer acceptable. Republican
s suggest quietly and indignantly that they are ready to escalate this battle if 
Democrats persist, since many of Democratic chair Terry McAuliffe's past business 
dealings did not receive prominent media attention when he
 took office earlier this year.

He’s in Business

The Racicot-connected business bound to be on the list of Democratic talking points: 
Enron., the oil giant that filed for bankruptcy this week.

According to federal disclosure documents and published reports, Racicot lobbied 
politicians on Enron's behalf and talked with Vice President Dick Cheney on energy 
industry issues.

Federal disclosure documents show that Racicot has also worked on behalf of 
agriculture, electricity, mining, and transportation interests at Bracewell & 
Patterson. He is a federally registered lobbyist for the National E
lectric Reliability Coordinating Council; for railroad company Burlington Northern 
Santa Fe (BNSF); for Wheat Gluten, a confederation of wheat gluten producers; and for 
Quintana Minerals, a mining company.

Democrats are looking for evidence that Racicot lobbied Western state governors and 
legislatures on behalf of some of these interests, too, because he has not registered 
as a lobbyist with any states.

Racicot's work for the wheat gluten industry coincided with a favorable decision on 
its behalf by the Bush Administration. In June 2001, U.S. Trade Representative Robert 
Zoellick announced that his office would end quotas
 on foreign wheat gluten products, but give the industry $40 million to "help it 
maintain its competitiveness," according to a government press release. It is not 
clear what role Racicot played, if any, in winning this de
cision.

Trade Promoter

In October, the Bush administration appointed Racicot to help resolve a trade dispute 
with Canada over timber. American forest product companies had compla

[CTRL] Days of Infamy

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

-Caveat Lector-

>From WND


}}}>Begin
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Wednesday, May 16, 2001







Remember Pearl Harbor?





By Jude Wanniski



© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Memo To: Junichiro Koizumi, prime minister
Re: Thinking About Japan

I see in your very first press conference, you mentioned World War II: "Why did Japan 
go to war? It’s because it was isolated from the international world." It is good that 
you did this, I think, because enough time has e
lapsed since your country’s attack on Pearl Harbor for history to be revised, to take 
into account the forces leading to that decision.

I’d actually made that historical revision myself more than 20 years ago, in the 
course of researching my 1978 book, "The Way the World Works." I’d discovered that the 
1929 stock market crash had been caused by the United
 States Senate in those October weeks, shifting from opposition to support of the 
Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, which became the first step toward the Great Depression when 
President Hoover signed it into law in June 1930. It
became clear the American political establishment -- replacing Great Britain as the 
global leader after the first World War -- had failed its first test. The economic 
imperiousness of the tariff led directly to the rise o
f the Nazis, as Germany felt the early blows of the global contraction.

As for your country, Americans today have little recollection of how U.S. political 
leaders of both parties early in the last century behaved with an active animus toward 
the people of Japan. On October 18, 1988, I wrote
to my clients about this context at a time when this animus once again was showing 
itself, as both political parties here began complaining vigorously about Japan’s 
trade surplus. Our political pressure then led to the lo
ng economic decline Japan has since experienced -- and which you hope to reverse. Here 
is some of what I wrote in 1988, in "Thinking About Japan":

One of the problems of our time is that Japan has no choice but to seek survival 
through colonization of more hospitable lands. We think of Nazi Germany when we hear 
the word "lebensraum," but it has been much more apt in
 this century to equate Japan with cramped living quarters. There are 125 million 
people living on an island the size of California, but without California’s natural 
resources. The mountainous island is near saturation, u
nable to support much more life without squeezing living standards or converting its 
tiny agricultural base to higher value-added economic activities, freeing the 
ricelands. Emigration from Japan is well over 2 million an
nually, 'colonies' spreading especially in Brazil, Australia and the U.S., plus 
millions of businessmen and students living 'temporarily' in most countries around the 
world.

The problem was not much different for Japan in the 1930s, when it had but 65 million 
people. It could solve its problem by exporting people, capital or high value-added 
goods. Immigration quotas prevented emigration from
 Japan to the U.S. in any meaningful numbers. In 1913, California passed a law 
restricting land ownership to Japanese awaiting citizenship, intending to prevent the 
Japanese, as Gov. Hiram Johnson put it, 'from driving th
e root of their civilization into California soil.' The perceived threat to the people 
of Japan was real. The United States had been its main hope, its Asian neighbors with 
few exceptions tied to one or another of the col
onial powers. When the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was enacted in 1930, it was as if the 
United States established barriers to all three of the Japanese solutions. The trade 
walls prevented them from trading higher value-adde
d goods for lower value-added grains, timber, oil and minerals. They also prevented 
Japan from acquiring the capital to invest in the U.S. After all, it had to run a 
trade surplus in order to acquire productive U.S. asset
s for reasons of national survival, not mercantilism.

The emergence of the militarists grew out of this dilemma. The invasion of Manchuria 
was initiated in September 1931, a year after Smoot-Hawley began impacting Japanese 
exports, the military wresting power from civilian l
eadership. Emulating the European powers, it would ruthlessly impose a quasi empire, 
the Greater East Asia Co.-Prosperity Sphere. When President Roosevelt responded by 
further isolating Japan, his oil embargo shutting off
 an important source of Japan’s energy, the die was cast. It’s hard to argue with 
history, but it should be no surprise that the current wave of historical revisionism 
in Japan is taking place. Younger Japanese are reject
ing the U.S. explanation of Pearl Harbor as a simple act of pure military aggression. 
The failure of U.S. leadership in dealing with Japan from the early days of the 
century paved the road to the Japanese at

Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread thew

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yes it can be, and yes it is - however throughout most of space there are
not gravitational fields that strong - stars are very very very far apart
so for the most part light travels in a straight line
-- -  --- - --- ---
Complete liberty of contradicting our opinion is the very condition which
justifies us in assuming its truth.


John Stuart Mill




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> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 12/7/01 7:10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> << one word - light... >>
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> Light can be and is bent by gravational fields.
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread thew

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nothing
its just not than unusual a sentiment, and its not only in croatia
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> << used to say that about Jews and the Irish in American restaurants, not too
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Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 12/7/01 7:10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< one word - light... >>

Light can be and is bent by gravational fields.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

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In a message dated 12/7/01 7:06:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< used to say that about Jews and the Irish in American restaurants, not too
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[CTRL] U.S. Watches Afghans Sink Into Starvation

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0149/ridgeway2.php

Mondo Washington
by James Ridgeway with Meritxell Mir

U.S. Watches Afghans Sink Into Starvation
Let Them Eat Teddy Bears


The deadly legacy of America's invasion of Afghanistan
is already being brought home in the grim photos of
desperately starving people, especially children,
which stream across TV.

To read the self-congratulatory American press, one
would think the people of Afghanistan were all
joyfully celebrating their liberation from the
Taliban. Now it turns out they are not celebrating,
but starving to death in the snow.

All the left-wing handwringing over the American
bombing campaign blocking aid has turned out to be
misplaced. The real problem is U.S. reluctance to put
enough soldiers—ours or anyone's other than the nearly
lawless Northern Alliance—on the ground to maintain
the peace.

UN and other relief agencies say they can't function
in nearly half the territory behind Northern Alliance
lines because of marauding and highway robbery.

A spokesman for Oxfam in Islamabad today said the
situation is roughly this: Food is reaching major
cities, but isn't getting out into the countryside,
where 85 percent of the people live and where there is
no security. As for the cities, the food that is
getting through is not sufficient to feed city
residents as well as the growing number of refugees
who have fled rural regions for more urban areas. No
aid of any kind is reaching Kandahar.

Which is not to say the continuing assaults by fighter
planes are without harm. A current UN report says "aid
workers in the east near Jalalabad were forced to
leave their posts following intense U.S.-led bombing
in the hunt for Osama bin Laden and his terrorist
network."

The more pressing difficulty, though, lies in
protecting those who would make the food deliveries
and hand out the aid. Relief agencies continue trying.
"There is a small-scale distribution in Mazar-i-Sharif
despite the insecurity there," said Lindsey Davies, a
spokeswoman for the World Food Program in Islamabad.
The access point to 4 million people, "Mazar is an
important logistical base for us. It is one access
route into the north, but it is temporarily out of
use." The situation around Kunduz was, if anything,
worse. "Kunduz is out of bounds to WFP," Davies said.

"One of the problems experienced by WFP is the fact
that truck drivers in the southwestern Pakistani city
of Quetta were reluctant to go into Kandahar for fear
of being caught up in the U.S.-led operation," she
said. "We have also heard that food prices have
increased in the market, which means that there will
be fewer people with purchasing power."

All this comes as President Bush prepares to ship some
10,000 relief packages funded by single-dollar
donations from American kids, reports Salon.com.
Designed for Afghan children, a quarter of whom die
before the age of five, the packs include items like a
fuzzy plastic ball, Starburst candy, raisins, and two
suckers.



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[CTRL] When War Criminals Play The Victim, And The World Nods in Agreement

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq24.html

The Blood on Israel's Hands - When War Criminals Play
The Victim, And The World Nods in Agreement

by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed

I. State Terrorism: Intrinsic to Israel’s Zionist
Ideology

II. A History of Systematic Aggression

III. The Invasion and Occupation of Lebanon

IV. Who is Ariel Sharon?

Conclusions

I. State Terrorism: Intrinsic to Israel’s Zionist
Ideology

“A war of terrorism was forced on us”, announced
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in a live
televised broadcast outlining Israeli war plans in the
wake of the weekend suicide attacks within the Zionist
State. “If you ask what the aim of this war is, I will
tell you. It is the aim of the terrorists… to exile us
from here.” He added that: “This will not happen. We
know who is responsible… Arafat is responsible for
everything that is going on.”[1]

We should contrast this with the eye-witness report of
New York Times journalist Chris Hedges in Gaza,
published in Harpers Magazine:

“It is still. The camp waits, as if holding its
breath. And then out of the dry furnace air, a
disembodied voice crackles over a loud speaker. ‘Come
on dogs,’ the voice booms in Arabic. ‘Where are all
the dogs of Khan Younis? Come! Come!’ I stand up. I
walk outside the hut. The invective continues to spew:
‘Son of a bitch!’ ‘Son of a whore!’ ‘Your mother’s
cunt!’



“The boys dart in small packs up the sloping dunes to
the electric fence that separates the camp from the
Jewish settlement. They lob rocks toward two armored
jeeps parked on top of the dune and mounted with
loudspeakers. Three ambulances line the road below the
dunes in anticipation of what is to come.



“A percussion grenade explodes. The boys, most no more
than ten or eleven years old, scatter, running
clumsily across the heavy sand. They descend out of
sight behind a sandbank in front of me. There are no
sounds of gunfire. The soldiers shoot with silencers.
The bullets from the M-16 rifles tumble end over end
through the children’s slight bodies. Later, in the
hospital, I will see the destruction: the stomachs
ripped out, the gaping holes in limbs and torsos.



“Yesterday at this spot the Israelis shot eight young
men, six of whom were under the age of eighteen. One
was twelve. This afternoon they kill an eleven year
old boy, Ali Murad, and seriously wound four more,
three of whom are under eighteen. Children have been
shot in other countries I have covered - death squads
gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers
with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria,
and Serb snipers put children in their sights and
watched them crumple onto the pavement in Sarajevo -
but I have never before watched soldiers entice
children like mice into a trap and murder them for
sport.”[2]

Does this sound like a “war of terrorism” was forced
on Israel by Palestinian children - or more like the
other way round?

According to the American Heritage Dictionary,
‘terrorism’ is defined as follows:

1. The use of terror, violence, and intimidation to
achieve an end.

2. Fear and subjugation produced by this.

3. A system of government that uses terror to rule.

In light of this authoritative, lucid and
comprehensive U.S. definition of ‘terrorism’, Sharon’s
words take on a new light. It so happens that the
facts are exactly the opposite to his claims. Contrary
to Sharon’s spin, it is a matter of record that
throughout the history of the State of Israel, the
regime has consistently foisted wars of terrorism on
the indigenous Palestinians in order to secure the
State’s expansion and consolidation. As early as 1940,
the noted Zionist Yossef Weitz, Director of the Jewish
National Fund affiliated to the World Zionist
Organization, wrote that:

“It should be clear for us that there is not room for
two peoples in this country. If the Arabs leave it,
there will be enough for us… There is nothing else to
do but to remove them all; we mustn’t leave a single
village, a single tribe... We must explain to
Roosevelt and all the heads of friendly states that
the land of Israel isn’t too small if all the Arabs
leave and if the borders are pushed back a little to
the north, as far as the Litani, and to the east, on
the Golan Heights.”[3]

It is therefore not the Palestinians who desired to
expel all the Jews from the region. On the contrary
Jews and non-Jews had lived in peace for thousands of
years in the land of Palestine. It was the foreign
Zionist movement which at its inception envisaged the
complete “exile” of the non-Jewish Palestinian people
from their ancestral homeland, to make way for the new
Zionist regime. Israeli historian Professor Benny
Morris of Ben-Gurion University records the little
known fact that: “Ben-Gurion clearly wanted as few
Arabs as possible to remain in the Jewish state. He
hoped to see them flee. He said as much to his
colleagues and aides in meetings in August, September
and October [1948].”[4] What was the principal
methodology Isr

Re: [CTRL] Explorers view "lost city" ruins under Caribbean (Alantis?)

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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it was about 20 years ago that i first saw aerial
video from a small plane showing these blocks [easily
visible from the sky through the water - shallow
ruins] and it was blatantly obvious to me that they
were man made...so now, canadian professional
scientists cash in and make such a case...beaten to
the punch by a 15 year old who, in turn, was beaten to
the punch by several investigators...

i hope this highlights for all the credibility of
established scientists...


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Re: [CTRL] New York Struggles with Burden of More Homeless

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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>   Thank you for posting these articles on increases
> in homelessness.  They
> bring the administration's sickening economic
> pseudo-stimulus package into
> clearer focus.  I can visualize Dubya waving a flag,
> jumping up and down and
> joyfully proclaiming "Let's Make War on the Weak!"
>

if i ignore statistics as provided by tv 'reality' and
such, i SEE that over most parts of the country, in
the past 5 years, houselessness has AT LEAST
doubled...perhaps tripled...


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Re: [CTRL] Wiccan is new state prison chaplain

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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>
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/dec01/witch06120501a.asp
>
> Wiccan is new state prison chaplain
>

not a true one...probably one of those psyop tactics -
as we all have seen, when everyone believes the guy at
the top has "occult powers" we fall right in line...

if he is a wiccan then he is not a very good one
because one cannot tune into spirit or affect
"magickal" change if one is deluded...and the delusion
i refer to is the fact that the prison industry is
harmful and is a product of the same mindset that has
burned witches...


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Re: [CTRL] Hamas Founder Under House Arrrest

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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> > too bad no one is putting key Mossad figures under
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> Why don't you do it?
>
> J2

your point being, apparently: if i can't do it - it
shouldn't be done...

since when does the sanity of international policies
depend on my own capabilities...

i have not run for any office...

or, if this is NOT your point, perhaps you could speak
less cryptically and explain...

incidentally, give me the same kind of support that
terrorist israel gets and i will do it myself - YES!


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[CTRL] The Best Enemies Money Can Buy

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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>From Hitler To Saddam Hussein to Osama bin Laden –
Insider Connections and the Bush Family’s Partnership
with Killers of Americans

http://www.copvcia.com/stories/oct_2001/carlyle.html

The Best Enemies Money Can Buy

Brown Brothers, Harriman - BNL- and the Carlyle Group

By

Michael C. Ruppert

[© Copyright 2001. All Rights Reserved, Michael C.
Ruppert and From The Wilderness Publications,
www.copvcia.com. May be reprinted or distributed for
non-profit purposes only.]


FTW, Oct. 9, 2001 - Since the Sept. 11 attacks on the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon, major media
powerhouses and the increasingly influential
alternative media alike have begun to focus attention
on Bush family connections and a long history of
arming and financing America’s attackers in the months
and years prior to the outbreak of war. Recent stories
in the Wall Street Journal (Sept. 27 & 28, 2001), ABC
News (Oct. 1, 2001), as well as a host of reports from
so-called alternative news sources have begun to focus
attention on the Bush family’s profit-making role in
creating and arming our enemies.

The following is a more comprehensive look at the
documented history of these relationships that will
also open some new avenues of inquiry for the press,
Congress and the American people.

In a world now filled with biowarfare agents, backpack
nuclear devices, and chemical weapons like Sarin gas
-- where there are people in many countries with
reasons to oppose the United States -- the Bush
Administration is following predictable strategies in
a way that redefines the concept of brinksmanship.
Human survival may depend upon the will and the
ability of both the Congress and the press to focus on
these relationships and to take appropriate action.
Moreover – and I am not the first to say this – if a
national security priority is to seize the financial
assets of those who support terrorists, then perhaps
we should start right here at home.

---

Adolph Hitler
Meticulous research, including U.S. government records
from the era, along with contemporaneous news stories
from the New York Times and other papers is presented
in the 1992 book entitled, “George Bush, The
Unauthorized Biography” by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton
Chaitkin, Published by The Executive Intelligence
Review and located at
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm. The following is
sourced entirely from Chapter II of this essential
work. [Note: Although FTW does not always agree with
conclusions reached by the Executive Intelligence
Review, or its founder Lyndon La Rouche, we have never
found a single flaw in any of their factual research.
History is history, no matter who presents it. And
this history is essential to understanding our era.]

George W. Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the
Managing Director of the investment bank Brown
Brothers, Harriman from the 1920s through the 1940s.
It was Brown Brothers, in conjunction with Averell
Harriman, the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil, the
DuPonts, the Morgans and the Fords who served as the
principal funding arm in helping to finance Adolph
Hitler’s rise to power starting in 1923. This included
direct funding for the SS and SA channeled through a
variety of German firms. Prescott Bush, through
associations with the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line,
Nazi banker Fritz Thyssen (pronounced Tee-sen),
Standard Oil of Germany, The German Steel Trust
(founded by Dillon Read founder, Clarence Dillon), and
I.G. Farben, used the Union Bank Corporation to funnel
vast quantities of money to the Nazis and to manage
their American interests. The profits from those
investments came back to Bush allies on Wall Street.
Thyssen is universally regarded as having been
Hitler’s private banker and ultimate owner of the
Union Bank Corporation.

Early support for Hitler came from Prescott Bush
through the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line -- also
funded by Brown Bothers -- that funneled large sums of
money and weapons to Hitler’s storm troopers in the
1920s.

According to Tarpley and Chaitkin, “In May 1933, just
after the Hitler regime was consolidated, an agreement
was reached in Berlin for the coordination of all Nazi
commerce with the U.S.A. The Harriman International
Company… was to head a syndicate of 150 firms and
individuals, to conduct all exports from Hitler
Germany to the United States.”

Furthermore, a 1942 U.S. government investigative
report that surfaced during 1945 Senate hearings found
that the Union Bank, with Prescott Bush on the board,
was an “interlocking concern” with the German Steel
Trust that had produced:

-50.8% of Nazi Germany’s pig iron

-41.4% of Nazi Germany’s universal plate

-36% of Nazi Germany’s heavy plate

-38.5% of Nazi Germany’s galvanized sheet

-45.5% of Nazi Germany’s pipes and tubes

-22.1% of Nazi Germany’s wire

-35% of Nazi Germany’s explosives

The business relationships established by Bush in 1923
continued even after the war started until t

[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] An Assassination in Bolivia as Narco Newsroom Arrives

2001-12-07 Thread Kris Millegan



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Dear Colleagues,

The Narco News Team has arrived in Cochabamba, Bolivia to begin authentic
news coverage of the growing social unrest in this South American nation,
caused by the US-imposed war on drugs.

As we land on the path of Bolívar, we have learned that yesterday afternoon,
at the very same hour that Bolivian President Jorge Quiroga met with George
W. Bush in Washington, coca farmers in Chimoré were blockading the main
highway in the region by placing pineapples and other "alternative crops" on
the pavement.

The "Expeditionary Forces" of the Bolivian military arrived, shot tear-gas
into the crowd of unarmed farmers, and detained the regional coca growers
union president Casimiro Huanca, 55, and his aide Fructuoso Herbas, 30.
Then, in front of witnesses, the soldiers shot Huanca in the neck, hitting
the ephemeral artery, and the stomach, and Herbas in the leg. Huanca died a
half-hour later. Herbas is in a Cochabamba hospital. The victims were
unarmed. The blockaders' only weapon was... pineapples.

The Catholic Church, the Public Defender, and the human rights organizations
in the region have universally defined the death of Huanca as an
assassination.

Tension grows in the Chapare region as president Quiroga returns from
Washington, the death toll of military and police assassinations against
unarmed civilian protesters during Quiroga's first five months as president
is now 15 deaths.

This is your war. This is your war on drugs.

Narco News is on the scene and will file a detailed report as soon as
possible.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: New York Struggles with Burden of More Homeless

2001-12-07 Thread Saba

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Do not be concerned - save yourselves.

Be glad you have nothing of value to lose other than your own skins.

Saba

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[CTRL] OPERATION HIMMLER AND CANNED GOODS

2001-12-07 Thread Kris Millegan

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OPERATION HIMMLER AND CANNED GOODS
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BRIEF HISTORY OF COVERT "INTELLIGENCE" OPERATIONS


by Hitler's Nazis and George Bush's CIA


Dirty tricks and lies create dictatorships, deal drugs & start wars


US Big Business sold to Nazi Germany during World War 2
US Big Business bought from Commies during Vietnam
Reagan/Bush White House & CIA convicted as Drug Warlords: Iran-Contra
Nazi worship at Secret Society Skull & Bones (CIA) at US colleges
Nazi Germany and United States of America are now United under George Bushes
edited by John Lee

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana

IT AIN'T PURTY -- BUT AT LEAST IT AIN'T CENSORED



Bushit

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the
perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to
direct itself. The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims
to a big lie than to a small one."
—Adolf Hitler, President of the Reichstag and Reich Chancellor, Nazi Party

"Naturally, the common people don't want war. Voice or no voice, the people
can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is
tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism."
—Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe
Commander in Chief

"First of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to
fear is fear itself—Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror The liberty
of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power
to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself.
That, in its essence, is Fascism, ownership of the government by the
individual, by a group, or any controlling private power."
—President Franklin Roosevelt

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people,
who have a right and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right,
an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, devine right to know that most
dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean of the characters and conduct of
their rulers."
—John Adams

"The US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, revealed in a television interview over
the weekend that President George Bush had given an order last Tuesday for
the military to shoot down anycivilian aircraft that disregarded instructions
from air trafficcontrol and appeared to be a threat. The fourth hijacked
plane, United Airlines Flight 93 fromNewark to San Francisco, was thought to
be on its way toWashington but crashed in rural Pennsylvania following
somekind of altercation between the hijackers and a group ofpassengers
determined to thwart their plans. The rumours that this plane was shot down
are based on thefact that debris was found up to eight miles from the crash
site,that one of the passengers talking on a mobile phone reportedhearing an
explosion and seeing a plume of white smoke in thecabin, and that
eyewitnesses saw a second aircraft in the skyat the time of the crash."
--The Independent, London, England, September 20, 2001

"The President, Vice-President, and all civil officers of the United States,
shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason,
bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
—Constitution of the United States

"These sectors of the doctrinal system serve to divert the unwashed masses
and reinforce basic social values: passivity, submissiveness to authority,
the overriding virtue of greed and personal gain, lack of concern for others,
fear of real or imagined enemies, etc. The goal is to keep the bewildered
herd bewildered."
—Dr. Noam Chomsky, from What Uncle Sam Really Wants, censored ex parte from
WUTK radio's Alternative Nation, Summer 2001

"We stare at TV screens and try to comprehend the suffering in the aftermath
of terrorism. At the same time, we're witnessing an onslaught of media
deception. Silence, rigorously selective, pervades the media coverage of
recent days. ABC News analyst Vincent Cannistraro helped to put it all in
perspective for millions of TV viewers. Cannistraro was in charge of the
CIA's covert aid to Afghan guerrillas. In other words, Cannistraro has a long
history of assisting terrorists—first, contra soldiers who routinely killed
Nicaraguan civilians; then, mujahedeen rebels in Afghanistan ... like Osama
bin Laden. How can a longtime associate of terrorists now be credibly
denouncing "terrorism?" It's easy. All that's required is for media coverage
to remain in a kind of history-free zone that has no use for any facets of
reality."
—Norman Solomon, Creators Syndicate, September 13, 2001



Contents


1.  Bibliography


*   The Rise and Fall of t

Re: [CTRL] FW: New York Struggles with Burden of More Homeless

2001-12-07 Thread RevCOAL

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From: thew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>im sending you all the meds i can find saba
>hope its not too late

I suspect an argument could be made that meds go a long way to explaining
Colleen's posts in the first place...  ;-)



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[CTRL] Intelligence Services Unaccountable and Out of Control?

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.heureka.clara.net/sunrise/spooks2.htm

Intelligence Services Unaccountable and Out of
Control?

---

And ye shall know the truth,
And the truth shall make you free. -- Gospel According
to John [inscribed in marble, CIA, Langley, Virginia]

Congress shall make no law respecting the
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech
or of the press or of the right of people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for the
redress of grievances. -- US First Amendment

Secrecy is the first essential in affairs of the
State. -- Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal de
Richelieu, Chief Minister to Louis XIII

The great masses of the people will more easily fall
victims to a great lie than to a small one ... --
Adolf Hitler

The Bay of Pigs has taught me a number of things. One
is not to trust generals or the CIA ... -- John F
Kennedy

... we might have ridden into an ambush. -- Kennedy
aide David Powers

The nation must to a degree take it on faith that we
too are honourable men devoted to her service. --
Richard Helms, CIA Director [found guilty of
committing perjury]

We do misrepresent, lie, steal on occasion. But once
you get beyond the question of whether we ought to do
espionage, this is as ethical a group of people as
you'll find. -- Elizabeth Rindskopf, CIA General
Counsel

The CIA in its pursuit of intelligence and influence,
often courts the same powerful figures [DEA] pursued
as criminals ... and intelligence wins precedence over
law enforcement. The highly connected tuxedo-clad
criminal is left in place to provide intelligence to
the United States - and drugs to its citizens. --
James Mills

The Committee finds that covert action programs have
been used to disrupt the lawful political activities
of individual Americans and groups to discredit them,
using dangerous and degrading tactics which are
abhorrent in a free and decent society  The
sustained use of such tactics by the FBI in an attempt
to destroy Dr Martin Luther King Jr, violated the law
and fundamental human decency. -- Church Committee

Prevent the rise of a messiah who could unify, and
electrify, the militant black nationalist movement.
[Malcolm X] might have been such a messiah; he is a
martyr of the movement today. [King could] be a real
contender for the position should he abandon his
supposed obedience to white liberal doctrines. -- FBI
report

In a review of all COINTELPRO files on Dr King, the
committee found substantive evidence that the
harassment program showed no signs of abatement as the
fateful day approached. -- House Select Committee on
Assassinations

It is the firm and continuing policy that Allende be
overthrown by a coup ... -- CIA memo

...on the basis of the evidence, it is clear that [the
Contras] knowingly received financial and material
assistance from drug traffickers... In each case, one
or another agency of the US government had information
about the involvement... Indeed, US policy-makers were
not immune to the idea that drug money was the perfect
solution to the Contra's funding problems. -- US
congressional subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and
International Relations

We were told that the only way to defeat the
Sandinistas was to use the tactics the agency [CIA]
attributed to Communist insurgencies elsewhere: kill,
kidnap, rob and torture  Many civilians were
killed in cold blood. Many others were tortured,
mutilated, raped, robbed, or otherwise abused When
I agreed to join  I had hoped that it would be an
an organisation of Nicaraguans ... [it] turned out to
be an instrument of the US government ... -- Edgar
Chamorro, former Contra Colonel

In recent years ... forces have developed in our
government over which there is no control and these
forces have an authoritarian approach to justice -
meaning, they will let you know what justice is. --
Jim Garrison

When those rifles crackled over Dealy Plaza in Dallas,
Texas, on November 22, 1963 ... [they] made [their]
move into the big time. [They] took control of the
President and the presidency. The man [they] killed
was no longer a problem, and they had made certain
that his successor, Lyndon B Johnson, heard and
remembered the sound of those guns. -- Col Fletcher
Prouty

To the extent that the the United States was governed
by anyone during the decades after World War II, it
was governed by the President acting with the support
and cooperation of key individuals and groups in the
executive office, the federal bureaucracy, Congress,
and more important businesses, banks, law firms,
foundations, and media, which constitutes the private
sector's 'Establishment'. -- Trilateral Commission

Last June I spoke to the British Parliament, proposing
that we - the democracies of the world - work together
to build the infrastructure of democracy. This will
take time, money and effort by both government and the
private 

[CTRL] Imperialism 101

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html

Imperialism 101
Chapter 1 of Against Empire by Michael Parenti


Imperialism has been the most powerful force in world
history over the last four or five centuries, carving
up whole continents while oppressing indigenous
peoples and obliterating entire civilizations. Yet, it
is seldom accorded any serious attention by our
academics, media commentators, and political leaders.
When not ignored outright, the subject of imperialism
has been sanitized, so that empires become
"commonwealths," and colonies become "territories" or
"dominions" (or, as in the case of Puerto Rico,
"commonwealths" too). Imperialist military
interventions become matters of "national defense,"
"national security," and maintaining "stability" in
one or another region. In this book I want to look at
imperialism for what it really is.

Across the Entire Globe
By "imperialism" I mean the process whereby the
dominant politico-economic interests of one nation
expropriate for their own enrichment the land, labor,
raw materials, and markets of another people.
The earliest victims of Western European imperialism
were other Europeans. Some 800 years ago, Ireland
became the first colony of what later became known as
the British empire. A part of Ireland still remains
under British occupation. Other early Caucasian
victims included the Eastern Europeans. The people
Charlemagne worked to death in his mines in the early
part of the ninth century were Slavs. So frequent and
prolonged was the enslavement of Eastern Europeans
that "Slav" became synonymous with servitude. Indeed,
the word "slave" derives from "Slav." Eastern Europe
was an early source of capital accumulation, having
become wholly dependent upon Western manufactures by
the seventeenth century.

A particularly pernicious example of intra-European
imperialism was the Nazi aggression during World War
II, which gave the German business cartels and the
Nazi state an opportunity to plunder the resources and
exploit the labor of occupied Europe, including the
slave labor of concentration camps.

The preponderant thrust of the European, North
American, and Japanese imperial powers has been
directed against Africa, Asia, and Latin America. By
the nineteenth century, they saw the Third World as
not only a source of raw materials and slaves but a
market for manufactured goods. By the twentieth
century, the industrial nations were exporting not
only goods but capital, in the form of machinery,
technology, investments, and loans. To say that we
have entered the stage of capital export and
investment is not to imply that the plunder of natural
resources has ceased. If anything, the despoliation
has accelerated.

Of the various notions about imperialism circulating
today in the United States, the dominant view is that
it does not exist. Imperialism is not recognized as a
legitimate concept, certainly not in regard to the
United States. One may speak of "Soviet imperialism"
or "nineteenth-century British imperialism" but not of
U.S. imperialism. A graduate student in political
science at most universities in this country would not
be granted the opportunity to research U.S.
imperialism, on the grounds that such an undertaking
would not be scholarly. While many people throughout
the world charge the United States with being an
imperialist power, in this country persons who talk of
U.S. imperialism are usually judged to be mouthing
ideological blather.

The Dynamic of Capital Expansion
Imperialism is older than capitalism. The Persian,
Macedonian, Roman, and Mongol empires all existed
centuries before the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
Emperors and conquistadors were interested mostly in
plunder and tribute, gold and glory. Capitalist
imperialism differs from these earlier forms in the
way it systematically accumulates capital through the
organized exploitation of labor and the penetration of
overseas markets. Capitalist imperialism invests in
other countries, transforming and dominating their
economies, cultures, and political life, integrating
their financial and productive structures into an
international system of capital accumulation.
A central imperative of capitalism is expansion.
Investors will not put their money into business
ventures unless they can extract more than they
invest. Increased earnings come only with a growth in
the enterprise. The capitalist ceaselessly searches
for ways of making more money in order to make still
more money. One must always invest to realize profits,
gathering as much strength as possible in the face of
competing forces and unpredictable markets.

Given its expansionist nature, capitalism has little
inclination to stay home. Almost 150 years ago, Marx
and Engels described a bourgeoisie that "chases over
the whole surface of the globe. It must nestle
everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections
everywhere. . . . It creates a world after its own
image." The expansionists destroy whole societ

[CTRL] Bob Kerrey, CIA War Crimes

2001-12-07 Thread eric stewart

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http://www.counterpunch.com/valentine.html

Fragging Bob:
Bob Kerrey, CIA War Crimes,
And The Need For A War Crimes Trial

by Douglas Valentine

By now everybody knows that former Senator Bob Kerrey
led a seven-member team of Navy Seals into Thanh Phong
village in February 1969, and murdered in cold blood
more than a dozen women and children.

What hardly anyone knows, and what no one in the press
is talking about (although many of them know), is that
Kerrey was on a CIA mission, and its specific purpose
was to kill those women and children. It was illegal,
premeditated mass murder and it was a war crime.

And it's time to hold the CIA responsible. It's time
for a war crimes tribunal to examine the CIA's illegal
activities during and since the Vietnam War.


War Crimes As Policy

War crimes were a central was part of a CIA strategy
for fighting the Vietnam War. The strategy was known
as Contre Coup, and it was the manifestation of a
belief that the war was essentially political, not
military, in nature. The CIA theorized that it was
being fought by opposing ideological factions, each
one amounting to about five percent of the total
population, while the remaining ninety percent was
uncommitted and wanted the war to go away.

According to the CIA's mythology, on one side were
communist insurgents, supported by comrades in Hanoi,
Moscow and Peking. The communists fought for land
reform, to rid Vietnam of foreign intervention, and to
unite the north and south. The other faction was
composed of capitalists, often Catholics relocated
from North Vietnam in 1954 by the CIA. This faction
was fighting to keep South Vietnam an independent
nation, operating under the direction of quiet
Americans.

Caught in the crossfire was the silent majority. The
object shared by both factions was to win these
undecided voters over to its side.

Contre Coup was the CIA's response to the realization
that the Communists were winning the war for the
hearts and minds of the people. It also was a response
to the belief that they were winning through the use
of psychological warfare, specifically, selective
terror ­ the murder and mutilation of specific
government officials.

In December 1963, Peer DeSilva arrived in Saigon as
the CIA's station chief. He claims to have been
shocked by what he saw. In his autobiography, SubRosa,
DeSilva describes how the VC had "impaled a young boy,
a village chief, and his pregnant wife on sharp poles.
To make sure this horrible sight would remain with the
villagers, one of the terror squad used his machete to
disembowel the woman, spilling he fetus onto the
ground."

"The Vietcong," DeSilva said, "were monstrous in the
application of torture and murder to achieve the
political and psychological impact they wanted."

But the methodology was successful and had tremendous
intelligence potential, so DeSilva authorized the
creation of small "counter-terror teams," designed "to
bring danger and death to the Vietcong functionaries
themselves, especially in areas where they felt
secure."


How Counter-Terror Worked In Vietnam

Thanh Phong village was one of those areas where
Vietcong functionaries felt secure. It was located in
Kien Hoa Province, along the Mekong Delta. One of
Vietnam's most densely populated provinces, Kien Hoa
was precariously close to Saigon, and is criss-crossed
with waterways and rice paddies. It was an important
rice production area for the insurgents as well as the
Government of Vietnam, and thus was one of the eight
most heavily infiltrated provinces in Vietnam. The
estimated 4700 VC functionaries in Kien Hoa accounted
for more than five percent of the insurgency's total
leadership. Operation Speedy Express, a Ninth Infantry
sweep through Kien Hoa in the first six months of
1969, killed an estimated 11,000 civilians-supposedly
VC sympathizers.

These functionaries formed what the CIA called the
Vietcong Infrastructure (VCI). The VCI consisted of
members of the People's Revolutionary Party, the
National Liberation Front, and other Communist outfits
like the Women's and Student's Liberation
Associations. Its members were politicians and
administrators managing committees for business,
communications, security, intelligence, and military
affairs. Among their main functions were the
collection of taxes, the recruitment of young men and
women into the insurgency, and the selective
assassination of GVN officials.

As the CIA was well aware, Ho Chi Minh boasted that
with two cadre in every hamlet, he could win the war,
no matter how many soldiers the Americans threw at
him.

So the CIA adopted the Ho's strategy-but on a grander
and bloodier scale. The object of Contre Coup was to
identify and terrorize each and every individual VCI
and his/her family, friends and fellow villagers. To
this end the CIA in 1964 launched a massive
intelligence operation called the Provincial
Interrogation Center Program. The CIA (employing the
US company Pacific Architects and Engineers) built a

Re: [CTRL] Text of Pakistan Perks

2001-12-07 Thread Samantha L.

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Introduced 9/25/01, passed in the Senate 10/4/01, passed in the House
10/14/01.  This Act waives prohibition of "direct assistance to a country
whose duly elected head of government was deposed by decree or military
coup..." as it pertains to Pakistan.  FYI. Samantha

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws

&docid=f:publ057.107

[DOCID: f:publ057.107]

[[Page 115 STAT. 403]]

Public Law 107-57
107th Congress

 An Act



   To authorize the President to exercise waivers of <> foreign assistance restrictions with respect to
  Pakistan through September 30, 2003, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. EXEMPTIONS AND WAIVER OF APPROPRIATIONS ACT
PROHIBITIONS WITH RESPECT TO PAKISTAN.

(a) Fiscal Year 2002 and Prior Fiscal Years.--
(1) Exemptions.--Any provision of the foreign operations,
export financing, and related programs appropriations Act for
fiscal year 2002, or any provision of such Act for a prior
fiscal year, that prohibits direct assistance to a country whose
duly elected head of government was deposed by decree or
military coup shall not apply with respect to Pakistan.
(2) Prior consultation required.--Not less than 5 days prior
to the obligation of funds for Pakistan under paragraph (1), the
President shall consult with the appropriate congressional
committees with respect to such obligation.

(b) Fiscal Year 2003.--
(1) Waiver.--The President is authorized to waive, with
respect to Pakistan, any provision of the foreign operations,
export financing, and related programs appropriations Act for
fiscal year 2003 that prohibits direct assistance to a country
whose duly elected head of government was deposed by decree or
military coup, if the President determines and certifies to the
appropriate congressional committees that such waiver--
(A) would facilitate the transition to democratic
rule in Pakistan; and
(B) is important to United States efforts to respond
to, deter, or prevent acts of international terrorism.
(2) Prior consultation required.--Not less than 5 days prior
to the exercise of the waiver authority under paragraph (1), the
President shall consult with the appropriate congressional
committees with respect to such waiver.
SEC. 2. INCREASED FLEXIBILITY IN THE EXERCISE OF WAIVER AUTHORITY
OF MTCR AND EXPORT ADMINISTRATION ACT
SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO PAKISTAN.

Any waiver under 73(e) of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C.
2797b(e)), or under section 11B(b)(5) of the Export Administration Act
of 1979 (50 U.S.C. App. 2410b(b)(5)) (or successor statute), with
respect to a sanction that was imposed on foreign persons in Pakistan
prior to January 1, 2001, may be exercised--

[[Page 115 STAT. 404]]

(1) only after consultation with the appropriate
congressional committees; and
(2) without regard to the notification periods set forth in
the respective section authorizing the waiver.
SEC. 3. EXEMPTION OF PAKISTAN FROM FOREIGN ASSISTANCE PROHIBITIONS
RELATING TO FOREIGN COUNTRY LOAN DEFAULTS.

The following provisions of law shall not apply with respect to
Pakistan:
(1) Section 620(q) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22
U.S.C. 2370(q)).
(2) Such provision of the Foreign Operations, Export
Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2002, as is
comparable to section 512 of the Foreign Operations, Export
Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2001 (Public
Law 106-429; 114 Stat. 1900A-25).
SEC. 4. MODIFICATION OF NOTIFICATION DEADLINES FOR DRAWDOWNS AND
TRANSFER OF EXCESS DEFENSE ARTICLES TO RESPOND
TO, DETER, OR PREVENT ACTS OF INTERNATIONAL
TERRORISM.

(a) Drawdowns.--Notwithstanding the second sentence of section
506(b)(1) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2318(b)(1)),
each notification under that section with respect to any drawdown
authorized by subclause (III) of subsection (a)(2)(A)(i) that the
President determines is important to United States efforts to respond
to, deter, or prevent acts of international terrorism shall be made at
least 5 days in advance of the drawdown in lieu of the 15-day
requirement in that section.
(b) Transfers of Excess Defense Articles.--Notwithstanding section
516(f)(1) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2321j(f)(1)),
each notification under that section with respect to a

Re: [CTRL] Expanding the DNA Database + HR 2680

2001-12-07 Thread Samantha L.

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http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,32593,00.html

Expanding the DNA Database
by Declan McCullagh
3:00 a.m. Nov. 17, 1999 PST

US police may soon have the cash they need to accelerate their DNA
fingerprinting efforts, courtesy of the federal government.

A new bill in Congress provides over US$45 million in federal funds to spur
police into taking more DNA samples and using them in criminal
investigations.

The FBI in late 1998 finished constructing a massive DNA database with about
a million entries, but local and state police have a backlog of samples taken
from criminal suspects and crime scenes and have been slow in adding them to
the system.

Rep. Benjamin Gilman (R-NY) hopes to change this. His proposal, cosponsored
by Jim Ramstad (R-Minn) and Bart Stupak (D-Mich), allows the Justice
Department to write checks to state and local police forces so they can buy
"state-of-the-art testing methods."

Gilman's bill expands the database to allow samples to be taken not just from
adults convicted of criminal offenses, but also from minors guilty of "acts
of juvenile delinquency." It also includes violent criminals in the District
of Columbia.

"The legislation will give money to states to get caught up with the DNA
registry," a spokesman for Gilman said. "The problem is there have been so
many DNA samples."

Privacy advocates charge that collecting more information is unwise.

"The problem is that a great deal of the backlog is caused by a number of
these states demanding DNA samples from just about everyone. A number of
states -- Louisiana and New York -- are moving toward collecting DNA samples
from every single individual arrested, no matter how minor the crime," says
David Banisar, co-author of the Electronic Privacy Papers.

"[You shouldn't] give them endless pots of money to do this. Politicians are
afraid of doing the right thing for fear of looking soft on crime," Banisar
said.

If the bill becomes law, anyone in prison, on parole, or on probation who's
guilty of certain serious crimes must give DNA samples to the police -- if
they haven't already -- or be found guilty or a misdemeanor. The measure
allows "the use of such means as are necessary to restrain and collect a DNA
sample from an individual who refuses to cooperate in the collection of the
sample."

DNA carries each individual's unique genetic code. Samples taken from blood
-- the most common method -- or other body fluids can be used to match
suspects to evidence at crime scenes.

The FBI's Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) is a huge database that -- as of
its launch in October 1998 -- was installed in 94 laboratories in 41 states
and Washington DC. The National DNA Index is part of CODIS and records
information submitted by participating states.

A 1994 law called the DNA Identification Act allows the FBI to include
information about people convicted of crimes, samples recovered from crime
scenes, and samples recovered from unidentified human remains.

Another bill, HR3087, includes a similar provision. It gives the Justice
Department $30 million to eliminate the database backlog.

In April, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) introduced a bill to limit federal DNA
databases.

Copyright © 1994-2001 Wired Digital Inc. All rights reserved.
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DNA Database Completion Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House)

HR 2680 IH
107th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 2680

To authorize the grant program for elimination of the nationwide backlog in
analyses of DNA samples at the level necessary to completely eliminate the
backlog and obtain a DNA sample from every person convicted of a qualifying
offense.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 31, 2001
Mr. ANDREWS introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
Committee on the Judiciary
--

--
A BILL
To authorize the grant program for elimination of the nationwide backlog in
analyses of DNA samples at the level necessary to completely eliminate the
backlog and obtain a DNA sample from every person convicted of a qualifying
offense.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `DNA Database Completion Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION OF DNA BACKLOG GRANTS AT LEVEL NECESSARY TO COMPLETELY
ELIMINATE BACKLOG AND OBTAIN DNA SAMPLES FROM ALL PERSONS CONVICTED OF
QUALIFYING OFFENSES.

Subsection (j) of section 2 of the DNA Analysis Backlog Elimination Act of
2000 (Public Law 106-546; 114 Stat. 2726; 42 U.S.C. 14135) is amended to read
as follows:

`(j) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated
to the Attorney General for grants under subsection (a) $100,000,000 for each
of fiscal years 2002 through 2006.'.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Saba

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Well not all of us want to be perfect like Colin Powell, the perfect man
- or a Whoopie Goldberg.

Am dying to see the new Black Messiah for they say this is one who won't
land with the Gentry.

O'Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Saba

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Nice quote there by John Fitzgerald Kennedy who was murdered by the
Jewish Mafia - let us say they delivered the bullet..

But let us say this, the same secret society that murdered Lincoln
murdered John F. Kennedy...

And all the time I thought the Mafia was Italian.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin

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Is that a question?

Anyhoot, go on with your inbreeding. The rest of us mutts will live happier,
less self-involved and self-important lives.

- jt


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From: "Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well the Irish in my family landed with the Gentry?
>
> Southern aristocrats - and to this day they are still particular with
> whom they breed - wouldn't want any apes or baboons in the line or a
> Queen of Sheba with black furry legs...
>
> Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread thew

-Caveat Lector-

yes saba
racism is an old tradition, and remains pure and unchanged
--
"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant
facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies and competitive values. For
a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and
falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its
people."
   President John F. Kennedy

> From: Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Well the Irish in my family landed with the Gentry?
>
> Southern aristocrats - and to this day they are still particular with
> whom they breed - wouldn't want any apes or baboons in the line or a
> Queen of Sheba with black furry legs...
>
> Saba
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Re: [CTRL] The Bush Betrayal, by Tibor R. Machan

2001-12-07 Thread thew

-Caveat Lector-

I saw a great bumper sticker:

"lets not elect him again, in 2004"
-- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - -  - - -- --- -- - - -  - -- - - - --
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>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 12/6/01 8:58:56 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
>> After the September 11 attacks, George W. Bush, like his father after the
>> Gulf War, enjoyed enormous popularity in the USA. But he is now squandering
>> this asset on bad policies and precedents. I can only hope that he will be
>> punished for this. Perhaps by the time the next presidential election rolls
>> around, the people will have come to realize that casting a determined
>> posture against our enemies isn't the most important thing a president must
>> do.
>
> What in the world would make anyone think there will be a "next election"
> when there wasn't even an original election?  What could possibly prevent
> Shrub from doing whatever it takes to hold the presidency by force?  Scruples?
>
> Samantha
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Re: [CTRL] S. 1744 - bailout of insurance companies

2001-12-07 Thread Samantha L.

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  It looks like the Senate is preparing a massive bailout of the insurance
industry.  McCain introduced S. 1744 on November 29, 2001, "To ensure the
continued financial capacity of insurers to provide coverage for risks from
terrorism."   As I understand it, it is to protect commercial insurers only,
if their expenditures exceed -

(http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:6:./temp/~c107oJWzB9::)

"(1) $10,000,000; or

(2) 5 percent of the commercial insurer's gross direct written premiums on
covered lines for the preceding calendar year."

..  then the government would pay them up to 80% of their losses not to
exceed (in aggregate)  $100 BILLION!  And the government would be remitted
some of this money by permitting commercial insurers to charge a surcharge to
commercial customers not to exceed 6%.

"(a) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall provide financial assistance, pursuant
to a triggering determination, to commercial insurers in accordance with this
section to cover insured losses resulting from acts of terrorism , which
shall be repaid in accordance with subsection (e).

(b) AMOUNT- Subject to subsection (c), with respect to a triggering
determination, the amount of financial assistance made available under this
section to each commercial insurer shall be equal to 80 percent of the amount
of the covered losses of the insurer as a result of the acts of terrorism .

(c) AGGREGATE LIMITATION- The aggregate amount of financial assistance
provided pursuant to this section may not exceed $100,000,000,000."

 in effect, in my view, all costs would be passed down to the little
people, of course, because that's what the government, in collusion with
business, always agrees upon.   Too bad nobody is proposing to bail out the
poor and homeless.

"Latest Major Action: 11/29/2001 Referred to Senate committee"

Samantha

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Gold prices and drug cartels??

2001-12-07 Thread Kris Millegan



--- Begin Message ---


It is interestig, isn't it, that everyone suddenly got up and said gold has
had its day.  Despite my Moniker I am no "goldbug" and have no financial
interest in the metal or its paper derivatives.  In fact, I have no
financial interest in anything I write about...as much due to a lack of
disposable income as ethical considerations.

It remains unclear to me whether gold is being stockpiled and controlled for
future use or covertly acquired to keep it from disrupting the plans of the
paper-hangers.

I remain one of the few voices who continue to consider that the
Rhodes-Milner complex as outlined by Quigley -- and undoubtedly modified to
a lage extent by world events etc -- is the ultimate beast that controls and
manipulates the vast quantities of black gold.  The Bilderberg and Trilats
are arms of this beast rather than its heart, I think.  I may well be wrong
as what evidence there is in support of this view is circumstantial at best.
It is more a gut instinct than anything else, I suppose.

However, I was struck by a comment made by  Rhodes in a letter to W T Stead
in 1891 in which Rhodes spoke of his plans and poutlined his belief that the
only way forward was via a secret society that was committed to
"...absorbing the wealth of the world to be devoted to such an object."
Whatever one thinks of Rhodes and his secret societies, imagine the scope of
such a vision.

Lord Grey, another important Rhodes-Milner figure once belittled the
Canadian, A J Glazebrook (also a very significant person in the Group)
because "he made no real effort to accumulate wealth."

The conclusion I draw from these two statements is that an integral part of
the Rhodes-Milner secret plan was to literally acquire the wealth of the
world in order to control the world.  Recent statistics show that the vast
bulk of the wealth of the world is already in the hands of an
infinitesimally small number of extremely wealthly individuals.

This being the case, the question I ask is what part gold has played or is
yet to play in this.  My guess is that the powers that be are only to aware
of the intrinsic fragility of fiat money and that a day of reckoning will
one day arrive.  I suspect that day will be when most of the real tangible
assets of the world are in the proper hands.

For what it is worth this is my conspiracy theory.  I could easily be wrong.
I am no economist (but then economists are no economists).  But what I am
certain of is the degree of importance which the elite place on acquiring
and controlling black gold and utilising collateral trading programmes.
These are at the very top of their agenda, I believe.

For publishing Project Hammer I have been taking some heavy flak in some of
the quiet and darker corners of the world.  This, in addition to being
unpleasant has also been instructive.  I now question the wisdom of
revealing what was, until two months ago, one of the best kept secrets of
banking and finance and elite actions.

I saw in a micro way how the beast controls things, and it ain't pretty.  A
little scary, in fact.

David









> As far back as 1978, every banking course I took had a professor who
> would undoubtedly bad mouth gold. It was amazing. They would say it
> had no intrinsic value and predict that, in the future, gold's
> importance in int'l business would attenuate. Fordham
> University/NYU/Columbia University to mention some of the
> institutions.
>
> In a strict, utilitarian sense, gold has no intrinsic value other
> than the fact that it enjoys a relatively stable, unchanging supply.
> it
> is impossible to duplicate, and it is unreactive in terms of
> oxidation - a perfect medium upon which to base a marker of value.
> Scarce, immutable, malleable and pleasant to look at; however, you
> can't get high by ingesting it. It won't heat your home, and, unless
> you clunk somebody in the noggin with it, it is not much of a weapon.
>
> Oil is most certainly stockpiled (US reserves are appox. 700 million
> barrels) as are arms. (did you ever read Fletcher Prouty's essays on
> the migration of armaments from the Pacific theatre of WWII to
> specific locations like Korea and Viet Nam?) Drugs are a kind of
> agribusiness, so stockpiling only makes sense when long term
> production/lab work is not feasible. (didn't the Afghan farmers
> stockpile
> their excess poppy production in Pakistan?)
>
> Of course gold will serve a purpose; however, I believe it will
> become a restricted use item, the purview of elite criminals and
> multinational corporations - that may be a redundant statement, but
> I'll take my chances.
>
>
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Guyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > snip...
> >
> > > Do you really think Gold is as important as Drugs, Oil and Arms in
> > > the big equation. I'll take the latter three over the former any
> day
> > > of the week and twice on Sunday.
> >
> > unsnip
> >
> > Yes, I think gold is at least as important and is probably, in the
> 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Saba

-Caveat Lector-

Well the Irish in my family landed with the Gentry?

Southern aristocrats - and to this day they are still particular with
whom they breed - wouldn't want any apes or baboons in the line or a
Queen of Sheba with black furry legs...

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread thew

-Caveat Lector-

re: straight lines in the universe


one word - light...


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>
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>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gavin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:57 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"
>>
>> But he is basing his assumptions on supposed facts of
>> science.
>
> And that is exactly my point. In my Geometry class we began with the
> assumption that such a thing as a straight line exists. It made proving the
> theorems fun but there's no "proof," for that assumption. And, given the
> structure of the universe, a straight line is very unlikely to exist. See
> the work of Buckminster Fuller for a "fuller" explanation.
>
>> You are arbritrarily deciding that science is
>> lying about there being no atmosphere on the moon.
>
> Yes I am, but so are they.
>
>> You cannot
>> contradict something without evidence that it is
>> false.
>
> Why not? Philip Klass does it every time he opens his mouth, as do many of
> the highest officials of earth's nations and their military. What gives them
> the right but not me?
>
>> We'll
>> never know what is true or false though using your
>> methods.
>
> Well, the "accepted" method usually involves coming to a conclusion BEFORE
> finding the "facts," and only the facts that fit and support the conclusion
> are then accepted as "assumptions." And round and round it goes.
>
> These same scientists still probably use the nonexistent concepts of "up"
> and "down" and claim to be sitting still or moving in a straight line. From
> the big picture of the motion of the universe all those things are not only
> impossible but ridiculous.
>
> These are not my ideas nor are they new.
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Re: [CTRL] Gay surprise for ape researchers

2001-12-07 Thread Saba

-Caveat Lector-

Well it took King Solomon to bring in the apes and the baboons and the
Queen of Sheba...cloning perhaps

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread thew

-Caveat Lector-

used to say that about Jews and the Irish in American restaurants, not too
long ago
-- --- -
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to
state I finally won out over it"



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> Subject: [CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:26 PM
>
>
>> GRAFFITI  IN  SPLIT( FOOD STORE ), CROATIA
>>
>>
>>
>> GRAFFITI SAYS: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED
>>
>> SPLIT, CROATIA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> DISGUSTING
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[CTRL] (Fwd) MAILED ANTHRAX FINALLY THE TRUTH?

2001-12-07 Thread klewis

-Caveat Lector-

--- Forwarded message follows ---
MEDIUM RARE

By Jim Rarey


December 6, 2001


MAILED ANTHRAX FINALLY THE TRUTH?


It has too often been the case in the last decade or so, the truth
about
important events is first published either on the Internet or in a
foreign
newspaper. And it usually is in direct contradiction to the
(authorized)
leaks from "knowledgable" but unidentified government officials
propagated
by the "mainstream" media. The subject of mailed anthrax has
followed this
pattern.

Many (too many) Americans will only accept "facts" when they see
them on the
eleven o’clock network news or read them in the establishment
newspapers,
e.g. The New York Times, Washington Post or Los Angeles Times.
One of the
earliest bits of misinformation that probably resulted in several
deaths was
the assurance that those not in the vicinity where the envelope
containing
the anthrax spores was opened had nothing to worry about.

That had to be revised when victims hundred of miles from the
capitol came
down with anthrax poisoning. Cross contamination was finally
acknowledged,
but the danger was downplayed contending that treatment with
Cipro (and
later other antibiotics) was 100% effective in those cases.

We were told that inhalation of anthrax would require a
concentration of
eight to ten thousand spores in the lungs to be potentially fatal. We
were
told initially that the anthrax mailed was "crude" in form and could
easily
have been used by foreign terrorists. This was reinforced by
repetitive
showings of the crude lettering on the envelopes on TV.

As test results began to filter out, the focus of the media changed to
the
"weaponization" of anthrax spores, i.e. milling them down to a
diameter of
one to three microns. (A micron is one millionth of a meter.) This
required
a degree of expertise beyond that of a single individual without
access to a
fairly sophisticated laboratory.

After a spate of "speculation" in the media that a "right wing fanatic"
might have been responsible, the FBI released a "profile" of its
suspect.
Predictably, they postulated a "loner" who may have worked in a
laboratory
and acquired a couple of test tubes of anthrax he kept in his
basement for
all these years. After the 911 tragedy this person, for his own
reasons
might have mailed the anthrax.

As test results confirmed the (Ames) strain of anthrax used in the
mailings,
attention began to focus on the army’s top-secret bioweapon
laboratory at
Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Ames strain is one of the most virulent
(deadly)
strains available and was in high demand both for developing
weapons and
vaccines to protect against all strains. Ft. Detrick’s records are
incomplete but it is known to have furnished the Ames strain to
Britain’s
Porton Down laboratory, a number of university and private labs and
probably
to Iraq.

During the cold war, Ft. Detrick, Britain’s Porton Down, Russia and
South
Africa produced and stockpiled large amounts of toxic biological and
chemical weapons including anthrax. In 1969, in contemplation of a
treaty
signed in 1972, President Nixon ordered Ft. Detrick to cease
production and
destroy the stockpiles. Although research and development was
done at Ft.
Detrick, the actual production and storage was at the army’s facility
in the
Pine Bluffs Redstone Arsenal in Arkansas.

Now, some thirty years later, the U.S. Government appears to be
relying on
the expertise of two cold war bioweapon veterans, Dr.’s William C.
Patrick
III, and Kenneth Alibek, President and CEO of Advanced
Biosystems Inc.
(ABS).


Patrick was in charge of the anthrax "weaponization" program at Ft.
Detrick.
He developed a process that resulted in anthrax far more potent
than that
known to have been produced by Britain or Russia. He holds five
secret
patents on the process. The army’s anthrax comprised up to one
trillion
spores per gram, double the amount other programs reached. To
put that in
perspective, if 10,000 spores is a lethal dose, then the two grams
said to
have been in the envelope addressed to Senator Daschle had
enough for 200
million lethal doses. A gram is just one-twenty-eighth of an ounce.

But even the 8 to 10 thousand spore number is misleading the
public
according to Edgar W. "Bud" Larson, one of several other Ft. Detrick
veterans who granted on the record interviews to Scott Shane of the
Baltimore Sun. Larson says that number (which he helped develop)
is an
average for lethal doses. Depending on several factors, 100 spores
or less
could be fatal. Larson was head of the aerobiology division at
Detrick.
Another veteran of the biowars, Norman M. Covert, adds that their
experiments showed that spores of one to four microns easily
escaped from
ordinary envelopes, which have pores of ten microns.

Another former Detrick expert is Manuel S. Barbeito who was in
charge of
decontaminating 75 to 100 buildings at Ft. Detrick after the program
was
shut down. He has doubts about the chlorine dioxide cleanup
method that

[CTRL] Global Warming Is Spreading!!

2001-12-07 Thread flw

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Thursday December 6 6:36 PM ET

Study Suggests Mars Ice Caps Eroding
By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20011206/sc/snows_of_mars_1.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Vast fields of carbon dioxide ice are eroding from the
poles of Mars, suggesting that the climate of the Red Planet is warming and
the atmosphere is becoming slightly more dense.

Experts say that over time such changes could allow water to return to the
Martian surface and turn the frigid planet into a ``shirt-sleeve
environment.''

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[CTRL] Canadian explorers find 'lost city' off coast of Cuba

2001-12-07 Thread Kelly

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http://www.nationalpost.com/
Friday, Dec. 7, 2001 p. A1

Canadian explorers find 'lost city' off coast of Cuba

Andrew Cawthorne, with files from Michael Higgins, National Post
Reuters, with files from National Post

HAVANA - Canadian researchers believe they have found a 6,000-year-old
underwater "lost city" built by an unknown civilization.

The find off the coast of Cuba conjures up visions of the fabled lost
city of Atlantis, although the research team said it is too early to
draw conclusions about their discovery.

However, using an underwater robot, the explorers have been able to
confirm granite-like structures, some perpendicular, circular and
triangular, on the seabed at a depth of 650 metres.

"It's a really wonderful structure which looks like it could have been a
large urban centre," said Paulina Zelitsky, a Soviet-born Canadian ocean
engineer.

The researchers from B.C.-based Advanced Digital Communications said
they believe the mysterious structures could have been built at least
6,000 years ago -- or about 1,500 years older than the pyramids at Giza.

"It would be totally irresponsible to say what it was before we have
evidence," Ms. Zelitsky said. She said the structures might have been
built by unknown people when the area was above water. She said volcanic
activity might explain how the site ended up below the Caribbean Sea.

In July, 2000, ADC researchers, using sophisticated side-scan sonar
equipment, identified a large underwater plateau with clear images of
symmetrically organized stone structures that looked like an urban
development partly covered by sand.

>From above, the shapes off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on the Caribbean
island's western tip resembled pyramids, roads and buildings, they said.

In July this year, ADC researchers, along with the firm's Cuban partner
and experts from the Cuban Academy of Sciences, returned to the site in
their ship, Ulises.

They said they sent an underwater robot down to film parts of the area,
which covers 20 square kilometres. Those images confirmed the presence
of huge, smooth, cut granite-like blocks, the researchers said.

Most of the blocks, measuring between about two and five metres in
length, were exposed, some stacked one on another. Others were covered
in sediment and the fine, white sand that characterizes the area.

The intriguing discovery provided evidence that Cuba at one time was
joined to mainland Latin America via a strip of land from the Yucatan
Peninsula, researchers believe.

"There are many new hypotheses about land movement and colonialization,
and what we are seeing here should provide very interesting new
information," Ms. Zelitsky said.

ADC is the deepest operator among four foreign firms working in joint
venture with President Fidel Castro's government to explore Cuban waters
containing hundreds of treasure-laden ships from
the colonial era.

The Canadian company already has discovered several historic sunken
Spanish ships.

In an earlier high-profile find, ADC was testing equipment in late 2000,
off Havana Bay, when it spotted the century-old wreck of the American
battleship USS Maine.

The ship had not been located since it blew up mysteriously in 1898,
killing 260 U.S. sailors and igniting the Spanish-American War.

Atlantis, and its supposed advanced civilized race, has fascinated
humanity for centuries and is surrounded by myths.

One myth portrays Atlantis as a huge, beautiful continent peopled by a
race of intelligent, scientific-minded people whose advanced
civilization was destroyed in a flood or an earthquake after losing a
major battle against the Athenians.

Others claim it was destroyed during a volcanic eruption.

The Greek philosopher Plato used the rise and fall of Atlantis as a
parable to show how the gods punished those who worshipped false gods.

Atlantis has been variously placed in the Atlantic, on the island of
Crete, on the volcanic island of Thera north of Crete, on the Canary
Islands, in the Bermuda Triangle and in Scandinavia.

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Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"

2001-12-07 Thread Dale Stonehouse

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> -Original Message-
> From: Gavin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Collier: "Only a Paper Moon?"
>
> But he is basing his assumptions on supposed facts of
> science.

And that is exactly my point. In my Geometry class we began with the
assumption that such a thing as a straight line exists. It made proving the
theorems fun but there's no "proof," for that assumption. And, given the
structure of the universe, a straight line is very unlikely to exist. See
the work of Buckminster Fuller for a "fuller" explanation.

> You are arbritrarily deciding that science is
> lying about there being no atmosphere on the moon.

Yes I am, but so are they.

> You cannot
> contradict something without evidence that it is
> false.

Why not? Philip Klass does it every time he opens his mouth, as do many of
the highest officials of earth's nations and their military. What gives them
the right but not me?

> We'll
> never know what is true or false though using your
> methods.

Well, the "accepted" method usually involves coming to a conclusion BEFORE
finding the "facts," and only the facts that fit and support the conclusion
are then accepted as "assumptions." And round and round it goes.

These same scientists still probably use the nonexistent concepts of "up"
and "down" and claim to be sitting still or moving in a straight line. From
the big picture of the motion of the universe all those things are not only
impossible but ridiculous.

These are not my ideas nor are they new.

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Re: [CTRL] " So Long It's Been Good To Know Ya " --j2

2001-12-07 Thread Nurev Ind.

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> - Original Message -
> From: "Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > yes those two little freaks at Littleton I understand sang that as they
> > slaughtered the Christians.
>
> I simply do not understand why you keep harping that they were deliberately
> killing Xians - they were after the "popular" kids, who they say taunted
> them.

Because she's an insane paranoid moron. Isn't it ovious to you yet?

J2

> The supposed religious/political agenda is your own invention, as is
> your contention that Klebold's religion had anything to do with it, or that
> he was somehow the "leader." It's as bad as claiming they were neo-Nazis, as
> you properly denounced earlier, but then you turn around and do the exact
> same thing.
>
> - jt

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[CTRL] Gay surprise for ape researchers

2001-12-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin

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I'm sure that Saba will claim they're either Jewish, or pawns of
pornography, or both ...

- jt


from - http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_467744.html

Gay surprise for ape researchers

Gay orangutans have been spotted in Sumatra.

Researchers say this is the first time homosexual behaviour has been seen in
wild populations.

Only two of the four males which took part were sexually mature and both of
these were also seen mating with females.

Until now homosexual behaviour has only been seen among captive orangutans
or rehabilitated animals which have had close contact with humans.

Other great apes known to take part in homosexual behaviour include male
mountain gorillas, female and male bonobos and humans.

Dr ElizaBeth Fox, a researcher from the Bronx Zoo-based Wildlife
Conservation Society, has published her observations in the American Journal
of Primatology
 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/86010877/START ).

She said: "It's disheartening that we're only now beginning to learn of the
full range of behaviour among these highly intelligent animals, yet they are
vanishing faster than any time in history."

Orangutans, the only great ape native to Asia other than man, are dying out
due to habitat loss and the pet trade.

Story filed: 11:28 Friday 7th December 2001

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[CTRL] Fw: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED

2001-12-07 Thread Svetska srpska zajednica

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:26 PM


> GRAFFITI  IN  SPLIT( FOOD STORE ), CROATIA
>
>
>
> GRAFFITI SAYS: SERBS AND DOGS NOT ALLOWED
>
> SPLIT, CROATIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> DISGUSTING
>
>






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[CTRL] Dumb Ol' US

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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From
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4313759,00.html

}}}>Begin
Los Angeles dispatch



Where no news is good news

Censorship and partisan coverage of events in Afghanistan are not
causing concern to a US public unused to complicated stories about
the world beyond America's shores, writes Duncan Campbell

Duncan Campbell
Wednesday December 5, 2001
The Guardian

A poll conducted last week in the United States by the Pew Research
Centre for the People and the Press found that 80% of people felt
that censorship of the news from Afghanistan was a "good idea".

The unanimously supportive coverage given to the war by all the main news media in the 
US has also won approval, with 69% saying that the news media "stand up for America", 
compared with 43% who thought that they did so b
efore the attacks.

But does the supportive coverage come with drawbacks?

"Ask anybody who only watches CNN and network news how many civilians have been killed 
and I don't think anyone knows that," said Stephen Rohde, the president of the 
California branch of the American Civil Liberties Union
 at a debate on private rights versus public security last week.

He said that he felt that the media was now an area of American life that has been 
affected on the civil liberty front by the war.

Every country in times of crisis or war can generally rely on a supportive media - as 
happened in the United Kingdom during the "Gotcha!" phase of the Falklands War - but a 
growing number of American commentators are expr
essing disquiet at what they feel is a lack of information which the media may deem in 
some way harmful or unpatriotic.

After the Bush administration requested that interviews of Osama bin Laden not be 
shown in full, all of the mainstream media abided by the request. Some news services 
go further.

Fox News Channel, the conservative channel owned by Rupert Murdoch, makes no pretence 
at objectivity in its coverage.

One of its news anchors, Brit Hume, told the New York Times that the network did not 
give too much weight to reports about civilian casualties in Afghanistan and said to 
NYT reporter Jim Rutenberg: "War is hell, people di
e. We know we're at war. The fact that some people are dying, is that really news? And 
is it news to be treated in a semi-straight-faced way? I think not."

Leslie Bennetts, writing in the current edition of Vanity Fair, says that "Americans 
like a simple storyline that makes it easy to decide who the good guys are and who the 
bad guys are and the byzantine tangle of internat
ional politics, Islamic fundamentalism and American foreign policy is making many 
citizens unused to grappling with such headache-inducing complexities want to throw up 
their hands."

Bennetts suggests that "American newspapers and television companies have reduced 
their foreign coverage by 70 to 80% during the last 15 to 20 years in response to 
corporate demands for profits."

Consequently, the public is unaware of much of what is happening elsewhere in the 
world.

My local radio "news" station promises that if "you give us 22 minutes ...we'll give 
you the world" yet I have often listened for the 22 minutes planning to count the 
number of countries outside the US deemed worthy of a
mention and found none.

Just after reading Bennetts' article, I happened to be at the screening at the 
University of Southern California in LA of a documentary, War and Peace, made by the 
prize-winning Indian film-maker, Anand Patwardhan, whose
work I have known for nearly 20 years.

The film was about nuclear weapons, focusing on the race between India and Pakistan to 
enter the field.

The film itself is a tour de force, beautifully shot and often darkly funny and much 
more riveting than the dry subject matter might suggest.

It went down very well with the audience of mainly young South Asian Americans, as 
people of Indian origin are called in the US.

Patwardhan's work used to appear regularly on Channel 4 in the UK back in the 1980s 
and since this is his best to date one might imagine that either Channel 4 or the BBC 
would snap it up.

Not so. Both have turned him down. Like many other documentary-makers
on both sides of the Atlantic, he is discovering that there is little
interest in screening films about complex subjects in foreign
countries.

Which is a pity because it seems as though complex subjects in
foreign countries are what we are all going to have to learn about
for a long time to come.

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[CTRL] SOE

2001-12-07 Thread Euphorian

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From
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FBGRQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=%2Fnews%2F2001%2F12%2F06%2Fnmrdf06.xml&sSh
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}}}>Begin
Friday 7 December 2001

The man who knows all the dark secrets
(Filed: 06/12/2001)

MRD FOOT - soldier, secret agent and grand old man of history - is
still uncovering treachery in the Second World War. Antony Beevor
reports.

MICHAEL RICHARD DANIELL FOOT enjoys a rare distinction for an
official historian. He is the only person to be referred to by his
real name in a John Le Carre spy novel. "Are you MRD Foot?" a
character asks George Smiley, who is pretending to write the Secret
Service's official history as a cover while he hunts for Karla's
mole. Le Carré's vignette is an amusing, yet significant tribute to
an unusual man.

Foot, at almost 82, does not look or act his age. He is tall and
slim. One might almost call him gaunt, if it were not for the eyes,
often twinkling at human and official absurdity. His precise, often
high, staccato deliv
ery sounds like a professional operator rapping out morse code. Yet no historian could 
be more generous with good advice. "Have you read so-and- so on such-and-such?" is a 
frequent greeting. "I think you should." And he i
s invariably right.

An official historian of secret institutions has to be trusted by the Civil Service 
establishment as well as by the protagonists of his subject. When Foot began SOE in 
France, (published in 1966), he was told to write it
"on the assumption that MI6 did not exist". Despite this minor handicap, the result 
was a widely acknowledged classic.

Two decades later, he was invited by Lord Armstrong, the then Cabinet Secretary, to 
tackle SOE in Belgium and the Netherlands - the subject of his new book. Armstrong 
warned him that he would have to be re-vetted. Foot re
plied that he could not be re-vetted since he had never been positively vetted in the 
first place. This, needless to say, produced a minor bureaucratic commotion in 
Whitehall. But nobody, as every other historian would ac
knowledge, was better fitted to tackle the still controversial subject of Special 
Operations Executive and Whitehall rivalries.

Foot's family, split between the Royal Navy and the Army, provided a good preparation 
for the British tradition that there should be no warfare as venomous as inter-service 
warfare. His great-great- uncle, the First Sea L
ord Jackie Fisher, sent his favourite niece a £10 note for her wedding, accompanied by 
a terse message. He would never speak to her again because she was marrying an Army 
officer. He kept his word.

Foot, a scholar at Winchester and then New College, Oxford, was 19 when war broke out 
in his first long vac. From a searchlight battery on the Isle of Thanet during the 
Battle of Britain, he found himself diverted onto th
e staff of Combined Operations.

Shortly before D-Day, he transferred to the staff of the SAS Brigade. (His reticence 
is typical of the wartime generation - none of this appears in his Who's Who entry). 
It was a truly international brigade, with two batt
alions of French and even a troop of Austrian Jews given Scottish names in a vain 
attempt to help them, if captured. In fact, none of them intended to be taken alive.

In August 1944, just as the great breakout from Normandy was taking place, Foot 
received a special mission. He was to track down a notorious SD (Sicherheitsdienst) 
interrogator named Bonner, who had tortured some of the F
rench SAS after capture. But he and his men were ambushed by German paratroopers. Only 
the driver escaped.

Foot was posted missing, presumed killed. He managed to escape from holding camps 
around Saint-Nazaire three times. On the third attempt, he climbed into a Breton 
farmhouse to find shelter. The unsympathetic farmer called
 his peasant sons, who broke Foot's skull and his neck in a savage beating. He was 
finally saved by a prisoner exchange and returned to the United Kingdom marked unfit 
for active service. One of his last tasks in the Army
 was to estimate the military casualties in the event of a full invasion of Japan. He 
arrived at the figure of 1,500,000. The decision to use the two atomic bombs was taken 
shortly afterwards.

Foot then returned to Oxford. He began a career which varied between teaching - he 
spent six years as professor of Modern History at Manchester University - and writing 
as a historian, both freelance and official. As well
 as the highly regarded SOE in France, he edited four volumes of The Gladstone 
Diaries, but his expertise in special operations soon led to him being known as "Mr 
Resistance". Every seminar and conference on the subject r
equired his presence and preferably a paper. Foot's strength was to link the 
experience of the agent on the ground with the organisational and geographical 
handicaps of controllers back in London.

He also developed a very clear view of their problems