[CTRL] "Witness To Jasenovac's Hell!" Tudjman Jews Elie Wiesel ???

2003-01-30 Thread David Sutherland
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Please forward this text to a friend and re-post anywhere! 
** "Witness To Jasenovac's Hell!" by 
Ilya Ivanovic *Emperor's Clothes has 18 copies left*[Posted 17 January 
2003]This text includes:* Comments by Jared Israel* Comments by 
editor of "Witness," Wanda Schindley* Order information * Read Sample 
chapter (Chapter 38, 'The Great Escape') at http://emperors-clothes.com/jasenovac/escape-text.htm 
** Comments by Jared 
Israel:Croatian President Franjo Tudjman was one of twelve foreign 
leaders honored at the opening of the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC in 
1993. This is remarkable. *Who* invited him?Tudjman was a Holocaust 
denier, a Serbophobe and an apologist for the Croatian clerical fascists, the 
Ustashas. [1] During World War II, their 'Independent' State of Croatia set up 
the first Nazi death camp in Europe. It was called 'Jasenovac'. An 
Associated Press dispatch reported that Tudjman wrote: "...the 'main 
characteristics' of Jews were 'selfishness, craftiness, unreliability, 
miserliness, underhandedness and secrecy."' Who invited this anti-Semite 
to the Holocaust Museum?The same Associated Press dispatch reported: 
"...Naomi Paiss, communications director for the [Holocaust] museum, said the 
State Department recommended that Tudjman, as a democratically elected leader, 
be given an invitation." (AP, 21/4/93) Ahh, "recommended." As in: they 
recommended; she obeyed.Two points about this.First, even if 
Tudjman had been elected democratically, which is highly debatable, [2] why 
would that be relevant? It was no secret he was a racist thug. This was obvious 
long before the summer of 1995, at which time Croatian troops, led by US 
'advisers', drove the entire Serbian population, mostly farmers, out of the 
Krajina area of Yugoslavia. Tudjman went on a train tour to celebrate. His 
racism - grimly reminiscent of Nazism - was made clear in this excerpt from a 
speech, broadcast by Croatian radio and monitored by the BBC:"And 
[applause] there can be no return to the past, to the times when they the Serbs 
were spreading cancer in the heart of Croatia, cancer which was destroying the 
Croatian national being and which did not allow the Croatian people to be the 
master in its own house and did not allow Croatia to lead an independent and 
sovereign life under this wide, blue sky and within the world community of 
sovereign nations." [3]"Cancer destroying the heart of the Croatian 
national being..." If this sounds like anti-Semitism, it should be no surprise. 
In Tudjman's 1989 book, "Wastelands - Historical Truth," he endorsed the amazing 
claim that in the Jasenovac death camp, Jewish prisoners:"...jealously 
kept the monopoly of the management inside the camp and took the initiative in 
provoking not only individual but also mass slaughters of the non-Jews, 
Communists, partisans and Serbs..."-- Franjo Tudjman, 1989, 
Wastelands--Historical Truth, Zagreb, Croatia: Nakladni zavod Matice 
HrvatskeOnly a handful of people survived Jasenovac to contradict 
Tudjman's infamous lie. For example, most of the 80,000 Yugoslav Jews were 
murdered.So if Tudjman was a Nazi apologist/thug, *why* was he invited 
to the opening of the *Holocaust* Museum?Which brings us to the second 
point: he who decides the guest list runs the party.Ms. Paiss' comment, 
quoted by Associated Press, above, communicated with eloquence who had the 
ultimate power. For the State Department to use the opening of the Museum to 
whitewash Tudjman, who blamed Jews for the deaths at Jasenovac, was audacious. 
To be sure, some well-known Jewish leaders were quoted in the days before the 
opening, objecting to Tudjman's presence. But their objections were flexible, 
like a safety valve; they relented. On the night of the opening, they were 
silent.Outside the building, Holocaust deniers picketed. Were they 
stupidly unaware that Mr. Tudjman, King of the deniers, was inside, on stage? Or 
were they there precisely to divert attention from the fact? The 
Holocaust had been seized by State and would henceforth be a weapon of US policy 
to glorify or denigrate; the Museum was the showcase. That of course is why the 
US government built it in Washington. Handy when needed.Mr. Tudjman was 
on the 'to-be-glorified' list.The Serbs, who had lost hundreds of 
thousands to the Nazi death machine, were on the denigrated list. Thus President 
Milosevic was conspicuously *not* invited to the opening. And not only that; 
President Clinton and Holocaust scholar Elie Wiesel spoke, implicitly comparing 
the Serbian people to the Nazis. Clinton threatened war against the Serbs. 
And while the Serbian people, whom the Ustashas had slaughtered 
alongside the Jews, were denounced and threatened with slaughter, no one spoiled 
the State Department's show by mentioning that an heir to the Ustashas, whom 
Hitler once called "our Nazis," shared the stage.Why? Why did *nobod

[CTRL] Fw: SB180:H.Res.28 - Resolution to support the independece of Kosova (sic) - Hyde/Lantos

2003-01-30 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
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From: sparta 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: Dettoni, David (Cong. Wolf) ; Christy (Cong. Bilirakis) ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:09 PM
Subject: SB180:H.Res.28 - Resolution to support the independece of 
Kosova (sic) - Hyde/Lantos


I sent the following fax to Representative Tom Lantos.  A 
similar one went to Rep. Henry Hyde.  You can reach them at the 
following numbers:
Rep. Lantos - Fax:  (202) 226-9789/Office: (202) 
225-3531
Rep. Hyde - Fax:  (202) 225-1166/Office:  (202) 
225-4561
Stella
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FAX
To: Representative Tom Lantos (D-CA)
From: Stella L. Jatras, a citizen of the United 
States
Date: 30 January 2003
No. of pages: Cover plus 1
Subj:  
HITLER said in 1939, "The great masses of people will more 
easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
Please note the following quotes by Jewish scholars:
"This organized anti-Serb and pro-Muslim propaganda should cause 
anyone believing in democracy and free speech serious concerns. Facts are 
twisted and, when convenient, disregarded." - Yohanan Ramati, Director of the 
Jerusalem Institute for Western Defense.
"The gigantic campaign to brainwash America by our media against 
the Serbian people is just incredible, with its daily dose of one-sided 
information and outright lies." - John Ranz, Chairman of Survivors of 
Buchenwald Concentration Camp, USA.
I learned with great regret your introduction of H.Res. 28 in 
support of the independence of Kosovo (the correct name of the Serbian province 
you so callously propose to take from a sovereign nation), the sacred soil of 
Serbia’s Jerusalem.
Would you be so cavalier with your pronouncements if you were 
dealing with the territory of Israel or the United States? You wouldn’t dare 
advocate giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians. Will you advocate turning Texas, 
California and Arizona over to Mexico when the illegal immigrants have numbers 
or power to demand it?
Why are you supporting Osama bin Laden’s Kosovo Liberation Army 
(KLA) who are engaged in sex slavery, prostitution, kidnapping, murder and 
drugs? Are you that uninformed that you do not know these things?
Serbs were once the majority in Kosovo until ethnically cleansed 
by Hitler, then by Tito, in his hatred of Orthodox Christian Serbs, who 
encouraged Albanians to cross illegally into Kosovo as easily as Mexicans cross 
illegally into this country, and the ultimate "final solution" primarily by NATO 
with the unjust and illegal bombing of innocent Serbian women and 
children.
While the Serbian minority continues to be murdered in Kosovo 
by those whom you support, and when 13th and 14th 
century churches and monasteries continue to be desecrated and destroyed by 
those whom you support, I can only be ashamed of the EVIL you and 
your co-conspirator are planning to carry out against a Christian people who 
were our allies in two world wars, while the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who was on 
the side of Hitler planning our destruction must be laughing from his grave. 

Even before the body of Kosovo is cold in the grave, H.Res. 28 
prematurely references Kosovo as Kosova. Therefore, I must conclude that you and 
your co-conspirator are grave robbers.
May God forgive 
you.
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[CTRL] TOXIC CHEMTRAILS CAUGHT ON RADAR

2003-01-30 Thread Steve Wingate
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Please Forward - The Whole World Is Being Poisoned.


The Toxic Qualities of Chemtrails Confuse the
Brain and Allow the Mad NWO-Globalists to Try
to Carry Out Their Awful and Evil Plans

While the NWO-Blair-Bush-Globalists are trying to
push us into more global bloodshed - consider the
mind-confusing abilities of the massive worldwide
CHEMTRAIL operation now underway which is
poisoning people all over the world:
http://www.world-action.co.uk/gwen.html
"SOME CHEMTRAILS HAVE BEEN ANALYZED &
SHOWN TO BE CREATING CLEAVAGES IN THE
SPATIAL PERCEPTIONS, BLOCKING THE INTER-
ACTION OF VARIOUS AMINO-ACIDS THAT RELATE
TO HIGHER-CONSCIOUSNESS AND TO INCREASE
DOPAMINE IN THE BRAIN PRODUCING A LISTLESS,
EUPHORIC STATE. BASICALLY TO FOG THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REAL AND UNREAL"
http://www.world-action.co.uk/gwen.html



TOXIC CHEMTRAILS CAUGHT ON RADAR
http://www.world-action.co.uk/radar.html

Chemtrails update:
SPRAY TANKERS TRACKED BY RADAR,
LAB TESTS RAISE CONCERNS
By William Thomas - Jan. 28, 2003
http://www.island.net/~lbnews

Last fall, a long-time landscaper working under contract for the City of
Edmonton began noticing that carefully tended flowers and trees were showing
signs of severe nutrient deficiencies.

City specifications call for electrical conductivity (EC) readings no higher
than “1” in local soils. When soil samples showed damaging EC readings 4.6
to 7-times higher than this maximum permissible level, Dave Dickie suspected
that elevated levels of electricity-conducting metals in the soils could be
leading to the plants’ “chlorosis” condition.

A life-long plane spotter, Dickie also wondered if there could be a
connection to events unfolding on ATC radar scopes during his regular visits
to the Edmonton municipal airport’s Air Traffic Control center.

Last Father’s Day, Dickie and an excited group of 12 year-olds watched two
KC-135s, tagged “Petro 011” and “Petro 012”, flying at 34,000 and 36,000
feet south and north of Edmonton.

According to the controllers watching the scopes, both U.S. Air Force KC-135
air-refueling tankers had flown south out of Alaska. But the big Boeings
were not refueling other aircraft. Instead, as Dickie, the kids and the
controllers watched, the four-engine jets began making patterns over
Edmonton – “circuits” the controllers called it.

The Stratotankers were working alone in “commanded airspace” from which all
other aircraft were excluded. And they were leaving chemtrails.

TELLTALE SIGNATURES

“The signature is significant” commented one radar operator, referring to
trails clearly visible on his scope extending for miles behind the KC-135s.
In contrast, a commercial JAL flight on the same display left no visible
trail.

Going outside, Dickie and several controllers scanned clear blue skies over
the northern Canadian city. Visibility was outstanding. They easily located
a KC-135 leaving a lingering, broad white plume. They could also clearly see
the JAL airliner at a similar flight level. It left no contrail at all.

On other occasions, Dickie has watched KC-135s on Edmonton radar leaving
lingering trails as low as 18,000 feet.

“We see these guys up here a lot,” radar techs told Dickie, explaining that
the USAF tanker flights originate in Alaska and continue on into the
States – after gridding the Edmonton area with emanations clearly visible on
radar.

“You should have seen it when they had the big summit up in Calgary,” the
Canadian controllers exclaimed. “It was exciting to watch them.” The G7
maneuvers suggested that barium might have been sprayed to enhance radio and
radar surveillance over what protesters condemned as a “globalization”
conference aimed at worldwide corporate domination.

That was speculation. But back in Edmonton, there was no doubt that
particulates were being sprayed by the tankers. Pointing to “birdie feet” on
their scopes, the radar technicians showed Dickie particles appearing “as
concentrations of dots” in the radar-tracked plumes.

Zooming in and out on each plane with the click of cursor, Dickie said that
he and the controllers “could see different contrails.” Some were short, and
quickly vanished from the scopes. Other trails were thick, long and
lingering – not acting like contrails at all.

Especially exciting for Dickie and the kids was watching head-on passes
between KC-135s and commercial airliners. Flying directly at each other with
a closing rate of nearly 1,000 mph, the huge jets app

Re: [CTRL] Sharon calls

2003-01-30 Thread Prudy L
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:39:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We know that not much really changes with you people. Fortunately, Israel can and will
do whatever it needs to do to exist.

I love the "you people" bit.  Israel certainly will do whatever it wants.  I'm delighted that YOU PEOPLE are seeing to that.  Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] Sharon calls

2003-01-30 Thread Prudy L
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:46:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Palestinians," who are NOT Israeli citizens, and who cheered Sadam as he rained down
Scuds on Israel, didn't get gas masks from the Israeli government nor should they have.
They were not the targets. And if they wanted gas masks, they should have asked you to 
send them some.



My, my.  I would have thought the 14 billion a year would have stretched to that.  Prudy
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[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] Hide and Seek

2003-01-30 Thread RoadsEnd
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Hide and Seek
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

For corporations, reputation is everything.

If they lose it, they stand to lose everything.

See Andersen, Worldcom and Enron.

If they can keep their dirty laundry out of the public eye, all the better.

They do this by destroying incriminating documents, by lying, by
covering up.

If they are caught red-handed by the cops, there's another way -- plead
guilty or negotiate a deferred prosecution agreement and ask the
government not to publicize the agreement.

We've always suspected that these kinds of secret settlement side deals
are happening, but never could put our finger on it.

Until earlier this week, when we attended a "media nosh" at the
Washington Legal Foundation.

That's the group that takes out ads in the New York Times ripping into
the Justice Department for prosecuting corporate criminals.

The title of the session: Is Creative Enforcement of White Collar
Criminal Laws in the Public Interest?

The message that the corporate-funded think tank wanted to get out, as
one paper put it: "criminalizing business judgment could stagnate the
U.S. economy."

In the question-and-answer session, we asked the distinguished panel of
white collar crime defense lawyers whether they could name a recent
criminal prosecution of a corporation that should not have been brought
because the theory of enforcement was too "creative."

Ira Raphaelson, a former federal prosecutor, and now a white collar
defense attorney at O'Melveny & Myers, said he had one, but couldn't
talk about it.

What do you mean, you can't talk about it?

I promised my client that I won't talk about it, he says.

It was a criminal prosecution and it's on the public record, right?

Yes, but I'm not going to tell you any more about it.

Was the case settled?

Yes, he says.

Did the Justice Department notify the press that the case was settled?

No, he says.

The company completed the negotiations. A lot of money was paid. I could
tell you about the case, but it would be to the detriment of my client,
so I won't, he says.

Raphaelson said that the case involved a corporation that was charged
with crimes under the collective knowledge doctrine. That's a doctrine
that holds that a corporation can be held criminally liable for the
collective knowledge of its employees -- even though no one individual
has sufficient knowledge to hold that individual culpable.

Raphaelson said that use of the collective knowledge doctrine is on the increase.

And that's a bad thing, he says.

So, it's a good thing that the Justice Department didn't publicize the
case, because it would make the Department look bad.

Raphaelson said that there have always been these kind of "side deals"
between the government and defense attorneys not to publicize a case.

"There are settled criminal cases that the government and the defense
attorneys agree not to talk about in public," he says. "There always
have been these side deals. If there is a prosecution that is a bad
prosecution that is settled, and I have a side deal with the prosecutors
not to talk about the prosecution, I'm not going to talk about it. In my
case, the government put out no press release. There was no publicity to
the case."

Lanny Breuer, the former special counsel to President Clinton and
currently a partner at Covington & Burling, agreed with Raphaelson that
such a secret settlement practice exists.

"There is this kind of practice of keeping information about criminal
cases out of the press," Breuer said.

Breuer says he's seeing it increasingly with deferred prosecution
agreements. That's where the government will tell a defendant -- if you
are a good boy for a year, the charges will be dropped. The criminal
slate will be wiped clean.

The U.S. Attorney's 

Re: [CTRL] Psychopath Terrorist Bush

2003-01-30 Thread David Sutherland
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The thing that drives these madmen is blind religion and lack of
spirituality.

Remember in the US how often you had clerics vocalising in the pulpits and
media for the use weapons of mass destruction as soon as they became
available against whoever they perceived as their enemy.

Catholic clerics were the inspiration for the first Terrorist mass Bomber
were they not?

During the Cold War it was the religious crusade against "godless"
Jew-Commie Russia. Clerics advocated the use of Atomic bombs.

Russia was a major card player in the Mid-East and an ally to some Arab
nations. The Arabs could play the Russia card at the Americans too.

With  the decline of the Soviet power its influence in the Arab and general
mid-East world has diminished.

Now the holy Crusaders have a little less resistance to wage their
millennial war against the Muslim Infidels.

"Blood for Oil" of course is the conspiracists cover story for the war; the
alleged "secret" real reason for the Crusade.

But the crusade has been on-going and on-building for hundreds of years
before oil was even thought of.

Dave.




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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Psychopath Terrorist Bush


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Who is the real terrorist in this matter? The man who terrorizes the world
> by threatening what will surely turn into a GLOBAL "holocaust" as Mandela
> correctly calls it. A holocaust which is 100% avoidable.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:35:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [U-S-A] Mandela is Right!
>
> Nelson Mandela is correct that Bush is trying desperately to make his
> War-Process work against the UN's Peace-Process. The next card he will
> play to instigate a "holocaust" (another Mandela term) is "the smoking gun
> excuse". Translated from moron-speak that means, "Iraq is not allowed to
> make one small mistake, otherwise that is our excuse to start the
> holocaust".
>
> But the the 'smoking gun' rhetoric is propagandistic nonsense. If Iraq had
> any WMD's of any magnitude, two months of UN searches would have found
> them. Of course, Bush accomplice, Judas Nix, did not say that because his
> hidden agenda was to support the Bush War-Process while pretending to the
> UN that he was leading the Peace-Process.
>
> Make no mistake about it. The UN inspections are ALL THAT IS NEEDED. Even
> a moron can understand that UN is successfully inspecting ALL of Iraq for
> WMD's and that even if it finds some, they will be few in number and can
> be easily disposed of. Then Iraq will be free of WMD's and the UN can then
> MAINTAIN THE PEACE while lifting trade sanctions against the Iraqi people.
>
> If there is a war, it will not stop with Iraq. U-S-A must invade Iran
> because Iran will support the Shia majority in Iran and lead them to the
> formation of a Shia government in Iraq as in Iran. After Iran and Iraq are
> both occupied, the chances are very good that "regime change" in Saudi
> Arabia and Syria will be next on the agenda. So this war will quickly snow
> ball into a war against all of the Muslim World. One must suspect that is
> the ultimate purpose behind it.
>
> POC
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:29:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: [LOGES-DE-CORBEAUX] NIX BLIX
>
> Dear Prime Minister Chretien:
>
> As France has said on the side of the PEACE PROCESS in Iraq, vs. the
> U-S-A/Blix WAR PROCESS, "war is always a failure". There is absolutely no
> reason why Iraq cannot have all of its WMD's removed by peaceful means.
> I have illustrated with the "search and rescue" analogy, how a team of a
> few thousand inspectors could map out units of .10 square miles and search
> each and every one in a reasonable period of time. That could also be a
> post-inspection model for keeping Iraq free of WMD's after the trade
> sanctions have been lifted. A few surprise visits to these units now and
> then would do the job.
>
> Thus opening doors is sufficient and Iraq has done enough by complying and
> opening its doors. Blix over-played his hand of treachery as he was
> stabbing the UN and Peace Process in the back. He is co-ordinating his
> propaganda machine with that of U-S-A to blacken the international image
> of Iraq as noncompliant in the Peace Process. Ask the Auditor General of
> Canada about accounting for inventory which has long ceased to exist. Blix
> does not want Iraq's past inventory of WMD's accounted for. He wants to
> use it as rhetoric to ration

Re: [CTRL] Solana, the EU and religion

2003-01-30 Thread iNFoWaRZ
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Amalekites, Sihon, and other inhabitants of Canaan, were Nephilim,
giants, offspring of the union between the Ben Elohim and women,
according to the Bible.  They had re-established themselves, as
prophesied in Genesis 6, and were up to the same scheme as before the
flood which was to prevent the Messiah from being born by occupying the
foretold land that the Messiah was to be born in.  They were also,
no doubt, up to polluting the genetics of mankind, to cancel the ability
for the line of Judah, to bring forth the kinsman redeemer, as they did
before the flood.  They had to be utterly destroyed.  It was as
simple as killing cancer cells.  It was not genocide, or murder, but
a just war against an insidious evil.

The Catholic religion, as are most other so-called Christian religions,
are NOT the people of the God of the Bible.  They are as every bit
riddled with the occult mystery religion as was Babylon, Assyria,
Jerusalem, and Egypt.  The Mass is an un-biblical tradition, a
tradition of man, not God.  Just as is Christmas, Easter
sun-worship, etc.
Although they act in the "name of a god", they act on thier
own.
As for New Age, it is just the same old mystery religion, wrapped in
modern trappings.
Nazism?  Steeped in the occult and supported by the Roman
Catholics.


At 03:26 PM 1/31/03 , you wrote:
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Zuukie, your argument can be easily taken the other way in
that those that claim monotheism are out to trump all others. I think a
lot of evidence would weigh on that side.
 
How about history in the Torah? 
 
Such as the monotheistic Hebrews committing genocide against
the Amalekites, killing men, women, children and at times splitting open
pregnant women like coconuts, all in the name of a
"monotheist" deity.
 
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy
all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman,
infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."  1Sa
15:3
 
More slaughter of innocents, "And we took all his
cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and
the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."
Deuteronomy 2:34
 
"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon
king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every
city ..." Deuteronomy 3:6-7 Well we could go on and on, you
probably get the picture. Pretty high morality.
  
I won't mentally strain any here with the well-known history of Vatican
"monotheism" which committed atrocities Nazis would
cringe at!
 
More monotheistic "morality"? Let us look
at the Catholic "Mass". 
 
The height of its sacerdotal liturgy is the public blood
ritual and cannibalisation of their alleged deity. To eat their lords
flesh and to drink his blood. 
 
It is not permitted for one to see this as mere symbol (if
that in itself were not horrid enough!) In accord with their Canon Laws,
if you say that this is not the real blood and real flesh of deity you
are a cursed being, a heretic worthy of death.
 
"If any one denieth that, in the sacrament of the
most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the
body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus
Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only
therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema."
The Catholic  Council of Trent (1545-1563) hurled 125
anathemas that is, eternal damnation and curses, at
heretics.
 
So we have this brutal public blood ritual and cannibalism
which occurs thousands of times a day in the US alone. It is enacted in
its most prominent cities and towns and supposedly represents mans
highest liturgical ritualistic act, the supreme expression of devotion to
deity. 
 
With this type of tribal superstition at the core of its
highest sacerdotal ritual, one can only wonder how a supposedly thinking,
rational person could possibly write Catholic monotheism and morality in
the same line as you do Zuukie?
 
Yet whilst men gaze and appear transfixed by this crass
superstition, on the other hand we have muck-raking pseudo
"Conspiracy Researchers," claiming to probe some dark,
secretive and evil ritualism of, say the Masons, in their scattergun
hit-and-miss rumour mill oft laden with lies and innuendo producing
shadows which they fray at like apoplectics. I tend to see something
wrong with this picture and something quite inconsistent with such
"research".
 
What is the relevance of New Age-ism? Not much really in the
big picture. Just another bogyman of the establishment clerics. The
clerico-fascists couldn't exist without their big devil and little imps
to frighten the flock into their arms.
 
New Age thinking is inherently opposed to science and
reason, thus it has always been open to intellectual fraud, mysticism,
and fanatical conspiracy claims.  
 
Fascist ideas abo

Re: [CTRL] [CIA-Drugs_TheDarkSide] Sabbatarian and Charles Taze the Watchtower writer/ is there a scottish rite co?

2003-01-30 Thread David Sutherland
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I think some of your facts are possibly a 
little out of kilter. Not all Sab's are anti-Trinitarian or Masonic. 

 
I would suggest you begin research with 
the Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) church which is the largest Christian 
Sabbatarian denomination and then proceed into the minor subsets and 
sects of such groups.
 
Partly Masonic flavoured (or ripped-off), 
but more importantly of the GNOSTIC faith, is Mormonism and not 
the JW's, it would appear. The latter group are a resurrected form of the 
ancient, (called heresy), of Arianism (not Aryanism btw)!
 
The SDA had a female prophet, Ellen 
G. White, who wrote against joining unions and secret societies inc 
Masons, was anti-papal and also prophesied over 100 years ago that the US 
would align itself with the papacy and the apostate Protestantism and become a 
world persecutory power, or perhaps, a Statist Clerico-FASCIST Globalist 
Theocracy in modern lingo? She also advocated vegetarianism and wrote 
extensively on health and healthy living. She influenced the author of the book, 
(found in esoteric shops), "Back to Eden" (by Kloss - who gives adulation), and 
Mr Kellogg the Kellogg's man! Think they also did the controversial first baboon 
heart transplant ... ???
 
Dave.
 
 
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Re: [CTRL] Sons Of Mau Mau Declare War On Freemasonry

2003-01-30 Thread David Sutherland
Title: Re: [CTRL] Sons Of Mau Mau Declare War On Freemasonry
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That was Zuukie's phrase, not 
mine.
 
But i think i somewhat concur with you. I am 
well aware, for example in the NT book of Acts, of the Nipponic influence on 
Christianity, "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all 
with one ACCORD in one place." Acts 2:1 How all 
the saints crammed into one Honda is a true marvel in 
itself!
 
Similar influence is found in the Jews sacred 
book of Profits and Korprats ch.13 v6, we find the following encomium to the deity, "Oh what a feeling - Toyota!"
 
Dave.
 
 

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] MAsonRY-pYRAMid-MARRY-g.RAM.MAR -MARrow-MAR-Y

2003-01-30 Thread David Sutherland
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A mystery bigger than the mystery 
itself. Kealey - a canuck of Ickean proportion no less!
 
The following from Kealey's piece is 
either a montrous typo, or the writ of someone who simply hasn't the foggiest 
about what they're talking about.
 
"The Bible, a compilation of 66 
books, is a book which was dictated to the Christian Church by the Essenes at 
Byblos"
 
Aside from the fact the Essenes were an 
ultra-orthodox apocalyptic Jewish cult, the subject, location and authors 
also seem a tad out of time and place?
 
BIBLE:500 BC: 
Completion of All Original Hebrew Manuscripts which make Up The 39 Books of the 
Old Testament.1384 AD: Wycliffe is the First Person to Produce a 
(Hand-Written) manuscript Copy of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.1535 AD: 
Myles Coverdale's Bible; The First Complete Bible to be printed in the English 
Language (80 Books: O.T. & N.T. & Apocrypha).
 
ESSENES:"The sect 
ceased to exist sometime in the 2d cent. A.D."  The Columbia 
Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition.  2001. Essenes.
BYBLOS:Ancient, 
Modern?
 
Perhaps the "Essenes" had developed 
secret time travel technology?
 
 
dAvE.
 
 
 
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[CTRL] Concrete Evidence of Israeli Apartheid

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1567638.php



Concrete Evidence of Israeli Apartheid
by Belinda Green 
Wednesday January 29, 2003 at 01:51 PM


While the mainstream U.S. corporate media, along with Zionist-infiltrated alternative media, take great pains to avoid the "A" word (Apartheid) with regards to Israel's racist regime, the facts are there for all to see. 



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Obviously pro-Israeli media and Zionists do not want the American public to know the true extent of Israel's racist regime. They try to hide the fact that Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing. They try to hide the fact that there are Jews-only bypass roads like the one pictured. These Jews-only bypasses go to Jews-only settlements built on confiscated Palestinian land, and are illegal according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion. 

If Palestinians are caught on one of the Jews-only bypass roads, they are subject to being shot and/or beat up. The winding road underneath the bypass road is the original Palestinian road, built before the racist Zionist Jews showed up to take possession of the land from the Palestinians in 1948, when the Unitied League of Nations, made up of European countries and the US took it upon themselves to give away Arab land that was not theirs to give away in the first place to Eastern European Zionist Jews. On the very day Israel was thus immorally created, gangs of Israeli terrorists massacred thousands of Palestinians and drove off 800,000 Palestinians, about half of the population at the time. Israel has refused to allow even one of these original Palestinian refugees back to their ancestral homeland of Palestine-Israel, even though it is their right according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion. 

The winding Palestinian road is a dirt road and need of repairs. It lengthens travel time by hours and is difficult to maneuver. Palestinians pay taxes to the Israeli government but receive far less in exchange for their tax dollars than Jewish Israelis do. The Palestinians who live in the West Bank and The Gaza Strip, otherwise known as the Palestinian Territories, and The Occupied Territories, have been living in a stateless limbo, neither granted equal citizenship as Israelis nor granted sovereignty as their own state. This is due to a spineless international community in the face of Zionist-dominated American politics and the resulting ineffectiveness of the UN to enforce its resolutions on racist, anti-democratic, apartheid Israel, which every other country condemns except for the Zionist-dominated United States. 

Even inside Israel, inequalities exist between Jews and non-Jews. 92% of the land inside Israel is officially allocated to use by Jews only. This has been official policy since day one of Israel's creation in 1948 and overseen by The Jewish Agency by appointment of the Israeli government. Other inequalities include only allowing Jews to serve in the military and thus receive many financial benefits, the impossibility of running a campaign on anything other than a Jewish supremacist state, special tax benefits for Jews not offered to non-Jews, and many more. Most importantly, the so-called "right to return" is extended to Jews from around the world who have no connection to Israel other than they are Jewish, yet Palestinians who have a living, breathing and dying connection for generations to the land of Palestine, now Israel, are not allowed their right to return although it is indeed their right according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion. 

The racist ideology of Zionism which manifests itself in ethnic cleansing is at the root of the problems with the Israel-Palestine conflict. The initial injustice of the creation of Israel must be addressed, and the Palestinians finally must receive equal rights, as in a real democracy, and including the right to return for all the Palestinian refugees. Zionism must be eliminated from modern, civilized society as was Nazism and white supremacism. Israel must be internationally isolated and boycotted until it becomes a true democracy. Zionism must be banished from American politics. Only then will there begin to be more justice and peace throughout the world. True Americans do not want to support a racist, apartheid country. We must ever be vigilent about racism raising its ugly head. Zionism is the racism du jour that has up until now escaped our notice. However , thanks to the information highway of the internet, the house of cards that is Israel and Zionism will surely tumble, as did the Berlin Wall and Apartheid South Africa. Let's do our best to make that happen sooner than later. Every day that passes by, life is progressively worse for the defenseless Palestinian people that have been abandoned by the powers that be in the world. However, we the people, must take our personal power, which is great, and make the difference to pressure our 

[CTRL] George Bush's POWER LUST

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/powerlust.html



Power Lust
by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.


I would rather eat my keyboard than watch the State of the Union speech, so consider this article an act of sacrificial public service. 

The most irritating thing about the State of the Union is that we are a captive audience – in every way. This guy taxes us, spends our money on stuff he likes, sends our kids to war on his decision, lies to us, dares to believe that his personal will is somehow more important than yours or mine or anyone else's solely because he managed to eke out a few more electoral votes than Gore two years ago, and to top it off, expects that we will watch for more than an hour as he prattles, while his minions interrupt him only to stand and applaud. 

Where to begin to criticize? George Bush is the biggest spender since Lyndon Johnson, increasing federal spending at a rate twice that of Clinton, and yet he stands up and demands spending restraint, seeming to blame everyone but himself. 

He talks about freedom and opportunity and then brags about his new bureaucracies, spending programs, mandates, comprehensive plans, regulations, and goals concerning all our lives, from how our kids are educated to the cars we drive to the way we care for those in need. 

He claims to care for life, decries partial-birth abortion, but refuses to rule out the use of nuclear weapons in the war he is plotting. He calls on America to feed the entire world, liberate all its women, educate all its children, and cure all its sick, even as ghettos rife with every social pathology languish miles from the White House. 

Hypocrisy? He denounces bureaucrats and praises innovation only to demand a huge new boondoggle program to put researchers on the dole. Indeed, the underlying assumption behind the entire speech was that America’s commitment is identical to his own commitment, which is reflected in his plans for your money.

Don’t write me to say that he wants to cut taxes, and so we should like him. Every few minutes, we heard spending numbers: tens and hundreds of millions, tens and hundreds of billions! It is never too much, and nothing is outside his purview. Indeed, he calls for the federal government, under his leadership, to "transform" our "souls." He went further: he says he is defending the "hopes of all mankind." 

His entire foreign policy seems like a massive effort to incite every terrorist in the world against this country, and otherwise encourage every small country to arm to the teeth against the US threat. From the government’s point of view, such would only increase the power of D.C., so one has to wonder whether this is the point after all. And not to nitpick, but how can he at once say that Iraq is despotic for ignoring the UN even as he brags that he will ignore the UN if he chooses?

"The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others… I will defend the freedom and security of the American people." 

Are these not the words of a dictator? 

It's too much! There should be a break at the midway point, in which we could broadcast messages like: You are our servant, not our master! Everything you do, you do with our money! There are three branches of government, and you only represent one! The powers not granted to you are reserved to the states and the people! You are not king of the world! The founders envisioned frequent impeachments! 

Instead, we must sit and sit and watch a despotic display that seems like an import from the times of Pharaohs and Caesars, or the modern world of dictators and commissars. What does this one fellow, holed up in the White House, living off other people's money, surrounded by sycophants and pollsters, know about the state of the union? 

The speech was particularly bad this year because we are dealing with a man who has clearly lost perspective. He speaks about his desire for peace even as he ignores the whole world's plea for him not to bomb and kill. He talks about a war on terror but the words Osama Bin Laden never pass his lips. He speaks of all the things the government will do to make us prosperous even as a two-year track record has failed to put a dent in the worsening recession. 

Indeed, his language seems to reflect a very dangerous state of mind. He habitually speaks about America as identical to the central state, and seems to regard that state as incarnated in himself – the entire apparatus of government embodied in his person. His will is the people's will, the perfect realization of Rousseau's fantasy. But rather than the language of the French Revolution, he uses the cadences of his evangelical constituents, invoking God and quoting old-time hymns. 

Americans have a hard time recognizing just how fascistically scary all this is because we are surrounded by it all the time, and we read and watch a media that rarely draws attention to it. But foreigners see it.

Hardly a day goes by when I don't rec

[CTRL] Bush Pushes CIA Homeand Spying

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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US Department of State
International Information Programs 

Washington File
 

29 January 2003 Bush to Create Terrorist Threat Integration Center 

(White House fact sheet on strengthening U.S. intelligence) (1520)

President Bush is creating a new terrorist threat intelligence center,
combining elements of several different government agencies, to
provide assessments of the terrorist threat for the U.S. national
leadership, according to a White House fact sheet.

The Terrorist Threat Integration Center is designed to be one central
location where all foreign- and domestically-generated terrorist
threat information and intelligence is gathered, assessed and
coordinated, the fact sheet said.

The center will be composed of elements of the Central Intelligence
Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the new
Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense. It will
be headed by a senior U.S. government official, who will report to the
director of Central Intelligence.

In addition, the fact sheet provides details on progress made since
September 11, 2001, in the global war against terrorism by the FBI,
the CIA and the Defense Department, and on the proposed anti-terrorism
functions of the new Department of Homeland Security.

Following is the text of the fact sheet:

(begin fact sheet)

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
January 28, 2003

STRENGTHENING INTELLIGENCE TO BETTER PROTECT AMERICA

Today's Presidential Action

-- In his State of the Union Address, President Bush announced a new
initiative to better protect America by continuing to close the "seam"
between analysis of foreign and domestic intelligence on terrorism.

-- The President announced that he has instructed the Director of
Central Intelligence, the Director of the FBI, working with the
Attorney General, and the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense
to develop the nation's first unified Terrorist Threat Integration
Center [TTIC]. This new center will merge and analyze
terrorist-related information collected domestically and abroad in
order to form the most comprehensive possible threat picture.

-- Since September 11, 2001, our government has been working together
and sharing information like never before. The creation of the
Terrorist Threat Integration Center is the next phase in the dramatic
enhancement of the government's counterterrorism effort. The President
has now directed his senior advisors to take the next step in ensuring
that intelligence information from all sources is shared, integrated,
and analyzed seamlessly -- and then acted upon quickly.

-- The administration will ensure that this program is carried out
consistently with the rights of Americans.

The New Terrorist Threat Integration Center

-- Elements of the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI's
Counterterrorism Division, the DCI's Counterterrorist Center, and the
Department of Defense will form a Terrorist Threat Integration Center
to fuse and analyze all-source information related to terrorism.

-- The Terrorist Threat Integration Center will continue to close the
"seam" between analysis of foreign and domestic intelligence on
terrorism.

Specifically, it will:

- Optimize use of terrorist threat-related information, expertise, and
capabilities to conduct threat analysis and inform collection
strategies.

- Create a structure that ensures information sharing across agency
lines.

- Integrate terrorist-related information collected domestically and
abroad in order to form the most comprehensive possible threat
picture.

- Be responsible and accountable for providing terrorist threat
assessments for our national leadership.

-- The Terrorist Threat Integration Center will be headed by a senior
U.S. government official, who will report to the Director of Central
Intelligence. This individual will be appointed by the Director of
Central Intelligence, in consultation with the Director of the FBI and
the Attorney General, the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of
Homeland Security.

-- The Terrorist Threat Integration Center will play a lead role in
overseeing a national counterterrorism tasking and requirements system
and for maintaining shared databases.

-- The Terrorist Threat Integration Center will also maintain an
up-to-date database of known and suspected terrorists that will be
accessible to federal and non-federal officials and entities, as
appropriate.

-- In order to carry out its responsibilities effectively, the
Terrorist Threat Integration Center will have access to all
intelligence information -- from raw reports to finished analytic
assessments -- available to the U.S. government.

-- A senior multi-agency team will finalize the details, design, and
implementation strategy for the stand-up of the Terrorist Threat
Integration Center.

Transforming the Fed

Re: [CTRL] ... this article from The Times

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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1/30/2003 4:26:58 PM, Alamaine Ratliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>  -Caveat Lector- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-
559990,00.html
>
>  Eight leaders rally 'new' Europe to America's side The leaders of Britain,
>  Spain, Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Poland, Denmark and the Czech Republic
have combined to make an unprecedented plea in The Times for unity and
cohesion

You can go to this site
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/wwwboard/g-index.php

to guage for yourselves as to what the "new" Europe consists of.  Be
foreinformed that these are globalisation indexes and there are charts
that rate countries based on various criteria.  Though the countries
included may be important in their own rights, there are countries that far
surpass them that are equal to or far superior that apparently aren't part
of the "New" Europe.  A<>E<>R

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[CTRL] the News Insider : Today's Poll

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.newsinsider.org/poll.html

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[CTRL] Psychopath Terrorist Bush

2003-01-30 Thread Party of Citizens
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Who is the real terrorist in this matter? The man who terrorizes the world
by threatening what will surely turn into a GLOBAL "holocaust" as Mandela
correctly calls it. A holocaust which is 100% avoidable.

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Subject: [U-S-A] Mandela is Right!

Nelson Mandela is correct that Bush is trying desperately to make his
War-Process work against the UN's Peace-Process. The next card he will
play to instigate a "holocaust" (another Mandela term) is "the smoking gun
excuse". Translated from moron-speak that means, "Iraq is not allowed to
make one small mistake, otherwise that is our excuse to start the
holocaust".

But the the 'smoking gun' rhetoric is propagandistic nonsense. If Iraq had
any WMD's of any magnitude, two months of UN searches would have found
them. Of course, Bush accomplice, Judas Nix, did not say that because his
hidden agenda was to support the Bush War-Process while pretending to the
UN that he was leading the Peace-Process.

Make no mistake about it. The UN inspections are ALL THAT IS NEEDED. Even
a moron can understand that UN is successfully inspecting ALL of Iraq for
WMD's and that even if it finds some, they will be few in number and can
be easily disposed of. Then Iraq will be free of WMD's and the UN can then
MAINTAIN THE PEACE while lifting trade sanctions against the Iraqi people.

If there is a war, it will not stop with Iraq. U-S-A must invade Iran
because Iran will support the Shia majority in Iran and lead them to the
formation of a Shia government in Iraq as in Iran. After Iran and Iraq are
both occupied, the chances are very good that "regime change" in Saudi
Arabia and Syria will be next on the agenda. So this war will quickly snow
ball into a war against all of the Muslim World. One must suspect that is
the ultimate purpose behind it.

POC

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Subject: [LOGES-DE-CORBEAUX] NIX BLIX

Dear Prime Minister Chretien:

As France has said on the side of the PEACE PROCESS in Iraq, vs. the
U-S-A/Blix WAR PROCESS, "war is always a failure". There is absolutely no
reason why Iraq cannot have all of its WMD's removed by peaceful means.
I have illustrated with the "search and rescue" analogy, how a team of a
few thousand inspectors could map out units of .10 square miles and search
each and every one in a reasonable period of time. That could also be a
post-inspection model for keeping Iraq free of WMD's after the trade
sanctions have been lifted. A few surprise visits to these units now and
then would do the job.

Thus opening doors is sufficient and Iraq has done enough by complying and
opening its doors. Blix over-played his hand of treachery as he was
stabbing the UN and Peace Process in the back. He is co-ordinating his
propaganda machine with that of U-S-A to blacken the international image
of Iraq as noncompliant in the Peace Process. Ask the Auditor General of
Canada about accounting for inventory which has long ceased to exist. Blix
does not want Iraq's past inventory of WMD's accounted for. He wants to
use it as rhetoric to rationalize more U-S-A genocide. This past inventory
is IRRELEVANT if the present WMD searchers do the job which they are
capable of doing. If there are no MMD's now, the job is completed.

Likewise the "smoking gun" rhetoric of the Pro-War faction is fatuous.
After two months of inspections, the most that will be discovered in
future will be small and easily taken care of weaponry. Disposing of it
peacefully will be easy for the UN. Of course Bush and his accomplice in
fostering mass murder, Blix, want to use any such weaponry as an excuse
for war. But it is up to you and the Pro-Peace faction as to which it will
be. You know that this matter can be resolved peacefully as does the rest
of the world.

POC



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[CTRL] Advertisers rushing away from Limbaugh show?

2003-01-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
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Advertisers rushing away from Limbaugh show?


By William Spain, CBS.MarketWatch.comLast Update: 12:04 AM ET Jan 30, 2003


CHICAGO (CBS.MW) - A Rush to the exits?Though still in its infancy, a letter-writing campaign aimed at advertisers on "The Rush Limbaugh Show," has already claimed a few choice scalps -- and hopes to soon have other marketers saying "ditto."Kicked off last week on the website of a group called Take Back The Media, the effort is generating a growing buzz among online progressives (or, if you prefer, "liberals") -- along with hundreds of angry e-mails to companies that sponsor what it calls Limbaugh's "hateful chortling and guffawing." Micheal Stinson, a Vietnam-era veteran, is co-founder of Take Back The Media. Obviously never a Rush fan, Stinson and his cohorts were content to largely ignore the king of reactionary talk radio -- until he weighed in on the recent anti-war protests, calling participants "anti-American,"  "anti-capitalist" and "communists," among other terms."He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country."When he decided to go after Limbaugh, Stinson said "we were told we would have to nip at his heels, to start by contacting local advertisers." He ignored that advice, however, and posted a list, complete with contact information, of top sponsors."Within 18 hours, RadioShack (RSH)
 had folded. Within 36 hours, Amtrak was gone and Bose told us they were no longer advertising on the show," Stinson said.Oddly, Stinson's group is not only telling the rest of the world which companies advertise on Limbaugh's show but, apparently, even the companies themselves.In RadioShack's case, the company maintains that it does not buy ads on Limbaugh's show and any that did air were the result of an "error made by the radio network or local affiliate."RadioShack, the company continued, "strictly adheres to a policy of not intentionally buying advertising space on programs that might be political or socially controversial or that promote any one individual's agenda or point of view."Amtrak says the ads aired as part of a complicated barter deal involving, strange but true, the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau. It does not sponsor political shows and "'in the future...will communicate [that] practice to" other partners.Although Stinson said he has reports of its ads appearing during the show, a spokeswoman for Bose told CBS.MarketWatch that its does not advertise on the program, "and has no intentions of doing so."Other advertisers targeted by Take Back the Media include Darden Restaurants (DRI)
 Red Lobster chain, Pfizer (PFE)
 AutoZone (AZO)
 and online retailer Overstock.com (OSTK)
 -- none of which would comment.Limbaugh is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks, a subsidiary of radio behemoth Clear Channel Communications (CCU)
. While not addressing whether the show had lost any advertisers as a result of the boycott, Premiere issued the following written statement: "There have been many times in the 15 year history of 'The Rush Limbaugh Program' when national and world events have generated increased listening as well as increased communication with individuals who have opposing points of view," said company president Kraig Kitchin. "The kind of compelling radio that generates opposition also causes Rush Limbaugh's weekly 20 million listeners to tune in that much more and listen longer."That audience number is likely exaggerated (other estimates put it closer to 15 million) but there is no question that Limbaugh is big, big, big and one of medium's biggest single stars. So, can a few scrappy liberals really hurt him?Depends. A lot of radio time is bought pretty much on a commodity basis, with advertisers looking for dayparts and regions rather than specific programming. Many may not even know where their ads appeared until after the fact. And, unless they have given their buyers up-front marching orders to avoid him (already not uncommon), Limbaugh's powerful ratings guarantee a piece of that action. Of course, there are plenty of other options that can deliver similar numbers. Whether or not the boycott works to any meaningful degree is going to depend on how many more advertisers decide it is easier to switch than fight. According to radio buyers, some companies cave almost instantly in the face of even a little negative feedback while others need to experience a truly sustained and widespread level of complaints before they listen.Still, they don't have to get them all to make a difference: If enough advertisers put out the word that the show is a forbidden zone -- and they are not rapidly replaced -- the pro

[CTRL] Bakersfield, JW's/CBC, Labour Cabinet minister, abuse percentages

2003-01-30 Thread Smart News
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this may be heavy for survivors

BELIEVE THE CHILDREN'S - Ritual Child Abuse:  Convictions and Evidence "Bakersfield - Alvin and Deborah McCuan, Scott and Brenda Kniffen, and Rodney and Linda Phelps (parents of Deborah McCuan) were indicted in 1982 on charges of sexually molesting children. The alleged victims included their own children, traded between families and used for group sex, as well as children from the Bluebird troop run by Deborah McCuan and the unlicensed day care facility in her home. The McCuans and Kniffens were convicted on all counts in 1983, drawing aggregate prison terms in excess of 1,000 years. The Phelps fled town and disappeared after being charged with 33 counts. Ritual elements in the case were ignored by authorities at the time. (Newton, 1996). In August 1996, a judge overturned the child molestation convictions of Alvin and Deborah McCuan and Scott and Brenda Kniffen.** (Northwest Herald, August 14, 1996). A second intrafamilial child-sex ring was exposed and prosecuted in Bakersfield, with trials continuing into 1985. Five adult defendants were convicted, including: Richard Cox, 47 (14 counts); Ruth Ann Taylor, 31 (14 counts); Anthony Cox, 25 (7 counts); George Cox, 24 (7 counts); and Theresa Cox, 21 (3 counts). Prison terms ranged from 10 to 41 years. (Newton, 1996). Seven defendants in another Bakersfield child-sex ring were convicted in August 1985, with multiple charges including child molestation and endangerment, assault with a deadly weapon, and production of child pornography. Wayne Forsythe, 28, was convicted on 41 separate counts. Other defendants, each convicted on a minimum of 50 counts, included Forsythe's wife, Colleen Dill Forsythe, 26; Ricky Pitts, 31, and his wife Marcella Pitts, 29; Wayne Dill, 26 (Colleen Forsythe's brother); Grace Dill, 50 (mother of Colleen Forsythe and Wayne Dill); and Gina Miller. Cumulative prison sentences in the case came to 2,100 years. (Newton, 1996). Leroy George Stowe III was convicted on 16 counts of child molestation and sentenced to 30 years in March 1985. Shortly after his conviction, victims in the case expanded their disclosures to include graphic descriptions of satanic ritual abuse and murders, involving nine more defendants. In January 1987, Gerardo Gonzales (facing 117 charges) pleaded no contest to one count of molesting a 5-year-old girl, and Rev. Willard Lee Thomas (facing 43 charges) pleaded no contest on two counts, including child endangerment and unlawful sexual intercourse with a 17-year-old girl. Both defendants were released from jail on the basis of time served, and charges against the remaining defendants were dismissed as part of their plea bargain. In February 1987, a California appeals court reversed Leroy Stowe's conviction on 12 of 16 felony counts, with the grounds cited as a technical insufficiency in the pleadings.** (Newton, 1996)." http://www.parc-vramc.tierranet.com/BTC%20RA%20Report.htm
and http://www.ra-info.org/resources/ra_cases.shtml

"The Fifth Estate" - Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) Network - "This television presentation is a serious, in depth, documentary that will deal with a number of Canadian and world-wide cases of abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses as well major disclosures from Jehovah's Witness advocates (open and in silhouette) who have been expelled from the organization and some who are still in good standing." http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44236&site=3

Meet the child molester next door Registered sex offender Jake Goldenflame thinks Megan's Law protects children -- and predators  By Janet Kornblum USA TODAY "According to Finkelhor, about 75% of child molesters are white; half are over 30; 75% have been employed; and 95% are male. Girls make up about 75% of the victimsAnd Finkelhor notes that 70% to 90% of abuse is committed by people known to children, and 30% to 40% by relatives." http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030129/4818893s.htm 

Child porn arrests 'too slow' By Neil Mackay, Home Affairs Editor - OPERATION Ore, the police inquiry which plans to arrest a further 7000 men across the UKThe Sunday Herald has also had confirmed by a very senior source in British intelligence that at least one high-profile former Labour Cabinet minister is among Operation Ore suspects. The Sunday Herald has been given the politician's name but, for legal reasons, can not identify the person. There are still unconfirmed rumours that another senior Labour politician is among the suspects." http://www.sundayherald.com/30813
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[CTRL] The "Right" Kind of Mind Control

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nms/showprod.cfm?did=6&catid=13
&ObjectGroup_id=5

NewsMaxStore.com: Browsing Success/Leadership/Motivation
(linqued from Drudge)

Note the volume offered by author Roy Masters.  If anyone is so inclined,
he has offered a video tape outlining his programs.  In the very beginning
of his presentation, he even admits he was a hypnotist while serving in Her
Majesty's imperialist forces.  It's interesting how powerful the "power of
suggestion" can be, even when the one employing it is up-front about it.
The "obermeister" thing translates "master"-fully well, and being named
"Roy" just might tend to make someone feel "regal"-ly above the fray.
A<:>E<:>R

http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm
Roy Masters: Foundation of Human Understanding

Roy Masters, founder and director, was born Reuben Obermeister to a
Jewish family in London, England. At age 15 he worked at his uncle's
diamond-cutting factory in Brighton after his father died.

As a young boy he became interested in hypnotism. He added to his
hypnotism techniques after studying African witchdoctor rites during his
apprenticeship at South African diamond mines when he was 18.

He came to America in 1949, at age 21, to lecture on diamonds. He legally
changed his name to Roy Masters in 1954 (yet never acquired American
citizenship) and eventually became a professional hypnotist claiming he
could "save people by teaching them self-sufficiency meditative hypnosis."

The American Medical Association pressed charges against him for
practicing medicine without a license. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail.
He likens this "persecution" to the persecution Jesus suffered.

He is a self-described "Christian mystic" combining Eastern mysticism and
Gnosticism with Christian jargon, yoga, hypnotism and self-help principles.

As with other Eastern-oriented cults, The Foundation of Human
Understanding teaches that God is both personal and impersonal,
advocating an almost pantheistic God.

In lieu of dependence on Jesus Christ for salvation, Masters teaches
dependence on his meditation techniques. He teaches that mankind is
inherently good, thus there is no need for salvation or a savior.

All problems man encounters can be resolved through self effort.

"No form of outer assistance can substitute for inner direction. Direction
must come always from within. Moved by the spirit of intuition, we move
without excitement, effort or strain. The more we exercise our
dependency upon the Within, the stronger this relationship becomes, and
we know it to be Grace," (How To Keep Your Mind Well, p. 165,
Foundation Press, 1971).

Though he claims to have been saved by the blood of Christ, he states that
"one of the biggest curses in Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is
God."

According to the late Dr. Walter Martin, the Foundation does not mention
the Holy Spirit in any of its publications (The New Cults, p. 310).

Instead of relying on the Holy Spirit for comfort and guidance, followers
are taught to rely on themselves (made possible through successful
meditation).

During the meditative process, subjects are taught to surrender all
disbelief and to relinquish control to Masters.

The Foundation of Human Understanding headquarters is in Los Angeles,
California where Masters' self-help brand of religion is offered to an
audience of 3 million people via his national radio program, "How Your Mind
Can Keep You Well."

In 1982, about 2,000 disciples followed Masters to a 378-acre ranch in
Oregon. He holds seminars and weekend retreats at the ranch and is
currently establishing Evelyn Street School, a Foundation institute for
kindergarten through 12th grade there.

In 1989, Masters claimed to have 150,000 people on his mailing list. Over
100,00 have purportedly participated in his courses. His meditation
exercise is taught on three cassettes and a book for a total cost of $25.00.

Participants in his week-long seminars pay $1,200 and $50 for one-day
seminars held across the country. Masters says he wants to be
remembered in the same category as Moses, Jesus, the apostles, Buddha,
Gandhi, Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy.


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[CTRL] I thought you would be interested to read this article from The Times

2003-01-30 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
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   http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-559990,00.html
   Eight leaders rally 'new' Europe to America's side
   The leaders of Britain, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Hungary, Poland, Denmark and the Czech Republic have combined to make an unprecedented plea in The Times for unity and cohesion
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[CTRL] Is George W. Bush an imperialist?

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30739



Is George W. Bush an imperialist?
Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted: January 29, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Though Iraq does not threaten us, has not attacked us, cannot defeat us, and does not want war with us, the United States is about to invade and occupy that country. If we do, it will be the first purely imperial war in our history, a war launched to reshape the domestic politics and foreign policy of another nation to conform to our own. 

A war to convert Iraq into a vassal state in the Middle East is something the War Party has sought for a decade. Sept. 11 gave it the opening to foist its agenda on an outraged and untutored president. 

But does George W. Bush share their vision? Has he, too, come to believe in the need for an American empire? Does he see in his mind's eye a U.S.-occupied Iraq – allied with Turkey, Israel and Jordan – ordering Syria's President Bashar Assad to pull his 35,000 troops out of Lebanon, so Sharon can go back in and settle scores with Hezbollah? 

Does he share the War Party's vision of an Iran surrounded by U.S. air power in Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, the Gulf, Afghanistan and Central Asia being ordered to destroy its missiles and nuclear reactors, or face U.S. attack? Sharon sees it. Anticipating a U.S. occupation of Iraq, he has called on us to smash Iran next. After that, Libya. 

But, again, the question remains: Has George W. Bush himself become an imperialist? Is the War Party dream of a Middle East and Persian Gulf where the United States is the hegemonic power that dictates to every capital and brooks no dissent now his vision as well? 

To be blunt, is there a Bush-Sharon Grand Strategy for a Middle East where all resistance to U.S. hegemony is broken and all opposition to Israel's occupation of Arab lands ends? 

After Iraq, the War Party will demand that Bush confront Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Will he? Or will he do as his father did after Desert Storm? Try to compel Israel to get off Palestinian lands and accede to a just peace with the Palestinian people? 

President Bush contends that all he demands of Iraq is surrender of its weapons of mass destruction. If that is true, as it was true that all his father demanded was Iraq's eviction from Kuwait, then there is simply an overlap of Bush policy and Israeli policy, and not some grand alliance or agreed-upon strategic agenda. Only after U.S troops enter Baghdad, however, will we learn the answers to these questions. 

But if Bush is not an imperialist, why are we about to invade Iraq? 

Bush's case for war: Saddam is a murderous tyrant with a grudge against America who has gassed his own people and has weapons of mass destruction that will be used on us, or his neighbors, or given to terrorists. Let us disarm Iraq while we can, lest we confront a situation in the Gulf identical to what we confront on the Korean peninsula: one of the world's most dangerous dictators wielding the world's most dangerous weapons. 

The case against war: Iraq had no role in the anthrax attack or 9-11. No terrorist attack of the last decade is traceable to Iraq. Iraq has invited in U.N. inspectors and told us to send CIA agents to accompany them. Not since 1990 has Iraq attacked a neighbor. No matter how evil Saddam may be, he has been contained, and none of his neighbors fear him or want us to invade. 

Moreover, Saddam has three or four doubles who travel with him in a fleet of Mercedes, and he sleeps in a different bed every night. This is not a martyr – this is a survivor. Why would he attack a superpower when it would mean the certain destruction of him, his sons, his dynasty, his legacy, his monuments and his palaces, leaving him in the history books, not as another Saladin, but as the dumbest Arab of them all? 

My view: When George Bush began his fulminations about the Axis of Evil, pre-emptive strikes and "regime change," he had not thought it all through, but has now become a prisoner of his own oratory. After all that bellicosity, he simply cannot be the second George Bush to send an army to the Gulf and order it home with Saddam still in power. And with all those troops over there primed for war, would they not mock a commander in chief who declares that Hans Blix will do the job? 

As of today, it would take greater courage for George Bush not to go to war than to go to war. And so, unless Saddam departs or is ousted by the Ides of March, we are going to war. The War Party, it would appear, wins this round.



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[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] FWD: "MY WAR ON THE WORLD"   (New World Order )

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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1/30/2003 11:26:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  "This is a moment to seize. The kaleidoscope has been
>  shaken, the pieces are in flux, soon they will settle
>  again. Before they do let us reorder this world."
>  - Tony Blair October 2, 2001

I saw Blair on the tube this AM in a news conference with the Spanish
(also a former imperialist nation having returned somewhat to its former
glory via the monarchy) prime minister and Tony was looking none too
comfortable.  Either too many Sangrias or not enough Grecian Formula or
both may have something to do with things.  My advice to TB: Oy! Take all
the rope you need, you blippin', blimey, bloody, bleepin, buggerin' sod {is
this redundant?}!

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[CTRL] The Dome of the Rock to shake?

2003-01-30 Thread John Miller
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Phew! I didn't have a dream, so I didn't see the 
Dome of Rock blown up. 
 
But I blasted well number crunched it. 

 
Oh! So much nonsense, but then... 
 
Sincerely
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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] FWD: "MY WAR ON THE WORLD"   (New World Order )

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"This is a moment to seize. The kaleidoscope has been
shaken, the pieces are in flux, soon they will settle
again. Before they do let us reorder this world."

- Tony Blair October 2, 2001


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Especially for Mark Urban. Here you see Tony Blair at Prime
Minister's Questions yesterday, spelling out in very clear terms what
is going to happen next.

Add that to what he said in October 2002 and you have some of what I
said in my last reply to you. He, Bush and the other criminals REALLY
believe they are on a mission to create a much better world. Nothing
will stop them.



"This is a moment to seize. The kaleidoscope has been
shaken, the pieces are in flux, soon they will settle
again. Before they do let us reorder this world."

- Tony Blair October 2, 2001







"MY WAR ON THE WORLD Jan 30 2003


Blair: We'll fight all who pose a threat

By James Hardy, Political Editor


WILD-EYED Tony Blair warned yesterday that he was ready to wage war
on the world.

The Prime Minister told jeering Labour MPs his next target after Iraq
was North Korea and the fight would go on until the world was a safer
place.

Anti-war MPs heckled Mr Blair during Commons question time as he
desperately tried to justify military action on Saddam Hussein.

They shouted "who's next?" and "when do we stop?" in one of the most
open shows of defiance since the crisis erupted.

A finger-jabbing Mr Blair turned on them: "After we deal with Iraq we
do, yes, through the United Nations have to confront North Korea
about its weapons programme.

"We have to confront those companies and individuals trading in
weapons of mass destruction.

"We stop when the threat to our security is properly and fully dealt
with."

Labour MPs are growing increasingly restless about the full-scale
rush to war.

Left-winger Lynne Jones accused the PM of only identifying Iraq as a
threat after George Bush grouped it with Iran and Kim Jong Il's
regime in North Korea as an "axis of evil".

The Premier snapped: "Precisely because he was a threat there have
been thousands of British forces down in the Gulf the whole time
flying over the no-fly zones.

"Precisely because he was a threat, we have had to impose a sanctions
regime on Iraq.

"Way before the axis of evil speech, at the very first meeting I had
with President Bush back in February 2001 I said that weapons of mass
destruction is an issue and we have to confront them."

Cabinet minister Clare Short renewed her warning that military action
must have full UN backing.

"We should all be clear that we unite behind the UN, and it's
invincibly strong this time, and that Saddam Hussein knows that we're
not going away and he can't push the inspectors back and stop them
operating like he did before," she said on BBC radio. "And then we
can minimise the risks of war, but we have to be willing, if
necessary, to take some military action to back up the authority of
the UN.

"We should deal with it in a way that minimises any risk of further
suffering to the people of Iraq."

The Commons bust-up followed a day of Government confusion over
alleged links between Iraq and al-Qaeda.

President Bush said in his State of the Union speech that
intelligence reports had shown extensive co-operation between the two.

Downing Street yesterday initially claimed Iraq was "sheltering" al-
Qaeda operatives. But at Question Time, the PM appeared to row back.
He said: "We do know of links between al-Qaeda and Iraq. We cannot be
sure of the exact extent of those links."

The Foreign Office added: "It would be hard to imagine that this was
happening without the knowledge and acquiescence of the regime."


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Defense Begins Thursday 
in Federal Medical Marijuana 
Trial
Former City Councilman to Testify; 
Judge Blocks Others
 
Wednesday, 
January 29 -- The marijuana cultivation trial of author and activist Ed 
Rosenthal resumed today in San Francisco federal court with the testimony of 
several witnesses for the prosecution, and the judge’s refusal to allow the 
defense to put on the stand most of the witnesses they sought to have testify. 
Special Agent James Sweeney of the DEA took the stand to recount his 
seizure of a computer from the home of Richard Watts, a former manager of the 
Harm Reduction Center in San Francisco and one of Mr. Rosenthal’s indicted 
co-conspirators.An IRS computer specialist, Larry Murphy, then told the 
court how he had retrieved a letter from the harddrive of Mr. Watts. The letter 
was purported to Mr. Rosenthal about some plants that were delivered to the HRC, 
but the agent was unable to say if Mr. Watts had written the letter, or if it 
had ever been printed out and sent.A witness from the IRS, Pamela Woo, 
testified as to a phone number they linked to Ken Hayes, the executive director 
of the Harm Reduction Center and another of Mr. Rosenthal’s indicted 
co-conspirators. The records indicated that Mr. Rosenthal had called him on 
three different days, for a total  the defense pointed out -- of no more 
than nine minutes. They also produced four months of phone records showing 
several dozen calls to the Harm Reduction Center, with an average call length of 
two minutes.Christopher Fay, a special agent of the DEA, testified about 
his undercover buy of 400+ small starter plants from the Harm Reduction Center. 
He said he had no way to know where the plants had come from, and had made no 
inquiries. He had never seen Mr. Rosenthal before, and had not seen him at the 
HRC. He had not counted the plants or determined if they had roots.The 
case agent for the DEA, John Pickett then told the court that he had counted the 
plants and checked for roots. Defense counsel Robert Eye noted in cross 
examination that there were at least two types of growing medium present, which 
Agent Pickett admitted was characteristic of different growers. He further 
conceded that he had no way to know if any of the plants purchased had come from 
Mr. Rosenthal, and that no documents had been seized in any of the searches that 
tied Mr. Rosenthal to the plants the undercover agent had purchased.The 
final witness for the prosecution, a special agent of the DEA, will return to 
the stand first thing on Thursday, to conclude his testimony about plants he 
seized from the Harm Reduction Center during the February 12, 2002 raids, and 
with that, the prosecution will rest.The defense will then give its 
opening argument, which they have reserved from the start of the trial. They 
plan on calling an expert witness, Dan Weaver, who will dispute the number of 
plants the DEA claims to have seized from both Mr. Rosenthal’s warehouse and the 
Harm Reduction Center. The prosecution contends that Mr. Rosenthal was involved 
in managing the cultivation of small marijuana starter plants, or clones, at the 
HRC. 
 
In addition 
to the expert witness, Nate Miley, formerly of the Oakland City Council and now 
an Alameda County Supervisor, will appear on behalf of Mr. Rosenthal. He is 
expected to testify that Mr. Rosenthal’s was completely open with city 
officials about his marijuana growing activities.The defense has also 
asked to put on the stand several character witnesses, which the presiding judge 
in the case, Charles Breyer, refused to allow. They include Keith 
Stroup, the executive director of NORML, the National Organization to Reform 
Marijuana Laws, who was to testify about Mr. Rosenthal’s longstanding com

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The secret we should all be let in on
September 3 2002




Freemasonry has a long - and far too shadowy - history in Australian 
politics, wrties Gerard Henderson.


It was a resignation speech of the look-back-in-wonderment genre. 
Last Tuesday John Herron formally announced his intention to step 
down from the Senate. The former Howard Government minister 
declared: "I pay tribute also to the wonderful democracy we have in 
Australia; we have no secrets."

Certainly Dr Herron's wish to quit the Senate to take up a diplomatic 
posting came as no surprise - he is expected to become Australia's 
ambassador to Ireland and the Vatican next year. However, despite the 
obvious bonhomie of the occasion, the Queensland Liberal's claim that 
Australian democracy has "no secrets" is anything but a truism. What 
about the Masons?

In effect, the Masonic Lodge arrived in Australia around the time of 
the First Fleet. Freemasonry was a secret secular society that 
evolved in the Middle Ages and was opposed by most organised 
religions, especially the Catholic Church. Its influence was spread 
by colonisation, particularly in what became known as the British 
Empire.

In this increasingly transparent age, there are few secrets. Much is 
known about business, churches, the trade union movement, politics, 
the professions and more besides. However, we know all but nothing 
about the Masons. Moreover, it is only in recent years that 
Freemasonry has released information about itself. In Australia, this 
has been most evident in New South Wales due to media statements by 
the organisation and publications by the Masonic Historical Society 
of NSW (see uglnsw.freemasonry.org.au).

Without question, Freemasonry is not the organisation it once was in 
the 1950s, when membership peaked at close to 400,000. Yet, without 
doubt, the Lodge was once very influential indeed.


According to Grahame Cumming's Freemasonry: Australia's Prime 
Ministers (Masonic Historical Society, 1994), most of Australia's 
politically conservative prime ministers up to the early 1970s were 
members of the Masonic Lodge. Namely Edmund Barton, George Reid, 
Joseph Cook, Stanley Melbourne Bruce, Earle Page, Robert Menzies, 
Arthur Fadden, John McEwen, John Gorton and William McMahon.

Now, for the most part, this lot was both able and busy. So the 
question to be asked is: what were they doing in the Masonic Lodge? 
Especially in view of the fact that Freemasonry membership involved 
participation in a number of unusual rituals: the rolled-up trouser 
leg on initiation, the secret handshake whereby (apparently) the 
thumb of one Lodge member makes contact with the second knuckle of 
another, the wearing of ceremonial aprons at meetings and so on.

Presumably Messrs Barton, Reid, Bruce, Menzies and Gorton did not 
endure - at one time or another - such rituals for the fun of it. It 
can only be assumed that they were active Freemasons, for a time at 
least, because they believed in the cause of the Lodge. Which was 
precisely what? Well, alas, we do not really know. Sure, Freemasonry 
supports various charitable causes. But so do such secular service 
groups as Rotary and Lions. So there must have been more to Lodge 
membership than good works. But what?

In Australia, no former Freemason has written a "tell-all" of the 
once-a-communist or once-a-Catholic kind. What's more, there has been 
very little written about the Lodge by outsiders. The most notable 
exception is the Sydney-based mathematician/philosopher James 
Franklin. See, for example, his article "Catholics Versus Masons" in 
the Journal of the Australian Catholic Historical Society, 1999.

The late Allan Martin wrote a fine two-volu

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From Nico Haupt-

Markle Foundation

http://www.markle.org/about/_about_history.stm


The John and Mary R. Markle Foundation, Inc. was
established in 1927 "to promote the advancement and
diffusion of knowledge. . . and the general good of
mankind." The first foundation to name both husband
and wife in its title, it was started with an initial
endowment of $3 million.

Pennsylvania-born John Markle was the son of a
coal-mine operator, inventor, and financier. He was
called on to manage the family enterprises when his
father became ill, serving as director of George B.
Markle and Company for nearly fifty years. When he and
Mrs. Mary Robinson Markle moved to New York City in
1902, he devoted himself to philanthropy as well as to
his business interests. The Markles became deeply
involved in the city's--and in many cases the
nation's--elite and their social, financial,
industrial, and charitable interests.

The Markle Foundation's first major interest was in
traditional social welfare. Its second program, begun
in 1936, centered on medicine and provided small
grants-in-aid for individual research projects. In
1947, the Foundation created the Markle
Scholars-in-Medicine program in response to a need for
more teachers, researchers, and administrators in the
nation's medical schools.

Board of Directors:

Zoë Baird
President, Markle Foundation

Lewis W. Bernard
Chairman, Classroom, Inc.

Tom A. Bernstein
President, Chelsea Piers Management, Inc.

Joel. L. Fleishman
Chairman of the Board of Directors
Professor of Law & Public Policy, Duke University

Lewis B. Kaden
Partner, Davis Polk & Wardwell

Ellen Condliffe Lagemann
Professor, Harvard University

Diana T. Murray
President, Tisbury Partners

Stanley S. Shuman
Managing Director, Allen & Company LLC



Spokesman Peter Kerr is Chief Communications Officer.
He joined the Markle Foundation in October 2001.

Kerr worked for fourteen years as a reporter,
supervisor and bureau chief with the New York Times.

One of the Advisors to the Foundation is Andrew L.
Shapiro, a writer, lawyer, and entrepreneur. He is the
author of The Control Revolution: How the Internet is
Putting Individuals in Charge and Changing the World
We Know.

Shapiro is raduate of Brown University, where he was
elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and Yale Law School, where
he was co-editor-in-chief of The Yale Journal of Law &
the Humanities and a senior editor of The Yale Law
Journal.




Philip Zelikow

Philip Zelikow is Director of the Miller Center of
Public Affairs and White Burkett Miller Professor of
History at the University of Virginia. Initially a
trial and civil rights lawyer in Texas, he taught for
the Department of the Navy before serving as a career
diplomat in Photo of Miller Center Director Philip
Zelikowthe Department of State and working on the
staff of the National Security Council in the Bush
White House from 1989-1991.

Zelikow is the director of the Aspen Strategy Group (a
policy program of the Aspen Institute), and a member
of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory
Board. He holds a doctorate from the Fletcher School
of Law and Diplomacy and a law degree from the
University of Houston. He is a member of the CFR
(Council on Foreign Relations), the International
Institute for Strategic Studies, and the State Bar of
Texas.

Source:
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[CTRL] The Anti-Europeans

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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The Anti-Europeans
Anti-Americanism has an evil twin: the neocon campaign to malign the West’s other democracies.
By Stuart Reid

If Thomas Babington Macaulay gave us the Whig interpretation of history, Victor Davis Hanson has given us the Marvel Comics interpretation, with added Thucydides. (Hanson is a classicist and doesn’t care who knows it.) For the past year, this sixth-generation grape farmer from Selma, Calif. has been writing the same piece, week after unforgiving week, for National Review Online. At the risk of simplifying, it goes something like this: Churchill good, Chamberlain bad; Democracy good, Tyranny bad; Israel good, Palestine bad; America good, Europe bad; Cowpokes good, Redskins bad; and, listen up, if it hadn’t been for “muscular and unsophisticated Americans,” you Euroweenies would now be speaking Kraut. But Hanson is not just a classicist and a grape farmer; he is also visiting professor of military history at the U.S. Naval Academy, and he knows what he wants. In the name of all that is holy and decent and democratic, in the name of Wal-Mart and Wall Street, he wants us to square our jaws, narrow our eyes, slap on the sun screen, dust off the depleted uranium, and spend $60 billion on a war with Iraq.

All things considered, most Europeans would rather pass on this one, as Saddam Hussein has never done them any harm and intends them none; and anyway people might get killed: not Americans, perhaps, but people all the same. Hanson finds this response repulsive. Who the devil do these Europeans think they are? Have they no gratitude? Can they not recognize “history’s greatest civilization” when it is staring them in the face and asking for no more than a bit of unconditional love and maybe a spare infantry battalion or two? America offers Europe “Sex and the City” as it were and the nuclear umbrella, yet the Europeans become churlish when asked to put their lives on the line and persist in taking a negative view of Manifest Destiny.

Hanson is without doubt the best buy in Neocon City. In October, he poured out his frustration and grief in Commentary (“Goodbye Europe?”), but alas fell at the first paragraph: “... few things can have been more dismaying to Americans than the attitude adopted by many of our closest European allies, whose sympathy for the loss of life [on 9/11] was quickly replaced by skepticism ... toward American motives and American policy.”

Be dismayed no longer, Americans. Sympathy for the loss of life was absolutely not replaced by skepticism. It was all along accompanied by skepticism. Sympathy remains in place, but (and please forgive me for going over old ground) Europeans are convinced that instead of declaring war on terrorism—a war he could not possibly win and which, after 14 months of military fiascoes, he is manifestly losing—the President of the United States should have devoted his energies to hunting down and hanging the murderers and their agents.

What a bunch of wimps, eh? Almost as bad as the Canadians. No wonder Hanson’s contempt for Europe is shared by many red-blooded (though for the most part unbloodied) Americans. After reading tens of thousands of words from the Weekly Standard, National Review, Commentary, and Policy Review, even Slate, the message I get from the War Party is that Europe—with the possible exception of Britain—is morally and intellectually bankrupt; that, having been exhausted by the wars of the last century, she is now too weak and too timid to confront major (or even minor) external threats; that she is envious of America’s military might and material abundance (which accounts for all those foaming anti-Americans); and that European Union itself is “socialist” (a word used by the New Right in America to describe any nation that provides a public health service and observes the major feasts of the Christian calendar).

Europe is also, of course, venomously and congenitally anti-Semitic. To read some of the more emotional neocons—Charles Krauthammer, George F. Will, David Gelernter, and Michael Ledeen, for example—one might conclude that it is only a matter of time before “Europeans” revert to form and, at the very least, start forcing Jews to scrub the streets. In a muddled piece in the Weekly Standard last autumn, David Gelernter wrote of Europe’s “casual, endemic anti-Semitism, her politically, financially, and masochistically rewarding fascination with Muslim states who despise her. …” Elsewhere in the same piece he asserted, “Europe wants to hate herself … but not for the sin of killing Jews; for the sin of killing Europeans.” And here is the snarling Michael Ledeen in NRO: “I always marveled at the Europeans’ ability to praise Hitler as a man of peace, and get terribly annoyed at Czechoslovakia for denying the poor man his richly deserved peace of mind … by existing in his Lebensraum.â

[CTRL] How Will Iraq Strike Back?

2003-01-30 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.amconmag.com/01_27_03/cover.html



How Will Iraq Strike Back?
Rather than making the world more safe, an attack on Saddam could put Americans here at home in harm’s way.


By Richard K. Betts

President Bush seems confident that his war against Iraq will be easier than his father’s, or at least that we can be sure to fight it on our own terms. But why should Saddam Hussein do us that favor? The hour is late for confronting strategic confusion, but better late than never. The United States has painted itself as well as Iraq into a corner. The case for preventive war rests on two crucial errors: understating the risk that an assault on Iraq will trigger a counterattack on American civilians, and, when that risk is admitted, conflating it with the threat of unprovoked attack by Iraq in the future.

Most Americans take for granted that if the war proves bloodier than the optimists expect, the price will be paid by the military or people in the region. If an invasion succeeds, however, Saddam Hussein will have no reason to withhold his best parting shot—which could be the release of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) inside the United States. Such a counterattack against civilians could make the death toll of Sept. 11 look small. Washington has done little to prepare the country for this possibility. 

When administration spokesmen do admit this danger, they misread it as reinforcing their case, as if it simply demonstrates the same threat they believe requires preventive war. There is a world of difference, however, between the odds that Iraq will fight back if we strike first and the odds that Iraq will strike without provocation in the future. The administration does not admit that if our attack triggers Iraqi retaliation, we will have brought the disaster on ourselves. It is not quite too late to ponder the Prussian statesman Otto von Bismarck’s characterization of preventive war: “suicide from fear of death.” 

An invasion to get rid of Saddam Hussein aims to do what no government has ever done before: destroy a regime that possesses WMD. Twice before countries with WMD fought each other but only in skirmishes—China and the Soviet Union on the Ussuri River in 1969 and India and Pakistan over Kargil in 2000. In those limited clashes neither side’s leadership faced its own demise. The difference this time has not been digested by pro-war strategists.

All the way through the passage of congressional authorization for war, the greatest danger a preventive assault might pose to Americans went almost unmentioned. Attention focused instead on less immediate, less likely, and less dangerous threats. The hawks’ argument for war focused on the future danger that Iraq will get nuclear weapons. But the biological weapons Iraq almost certainly has already are bad enough. The worst estimates of U.S. vulnerability may be grossly exaggerated, but vulnerability is high in any case. A 1993 Office of Technology Assessment study saw the possibility of one to three million fatalities from anthrax delivered by aerosol from a single plane over the Washington, D.C. area. Even if medical readiness makes a realistic figure only one percent of that figure, casualties would be more than triple those of Sept. 11. Iraq could also have bio-engineered pathogens for which no defense is available. Chemical weapons would be less destructive than biological, but they too could exact a devastating toll.

Is Iraqi counterattack really plausible? Hawks worry that Saddam will use WMD or give them to terrorists in the future, even if we threaten him with devastating retaliation. If he would cut his own throat when not provoked, he will certainly lash out with anything he has when we go for his jugular and his back is against the wall—and Washington wants him to go to the wall. Saddam will not go gently if he has nothing left to lose.

The risk that has absorbed commentators, however, is the vulnerability of U.S. invasion forces, or local supporters like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait, as if the danger is only that Iraq would set off WMD within the region. But if the military assault to overthrow the Iraqi regime succeeds, there is no reason to doubt Saddam’s intention to use biological weapons where they would hurt Americans the most. Then the only question is whether he will have the capability to carry out the intent.

Maybe not. Maybe Saddam is not crafty enough to figure out how to strike the American homeland. Maybe Iraqi intelligence is too incompetent to smuggle biological weapons in and set them off. Maybe underlings would disobey orders to do so. Maybe terrorists to whom they might subcontract the job would bungle it. Maybe American forces could find and neutralize all of Iraq’s WMD before they could be detonated. But it is reckless to bank on maybes. We have given Saddam more than enough time to concoct retaliation, since he has been on notice for months that we are coming. The Bush 

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2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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MAKE WAR, NOT PEACE
By Eric S. Margolis
27 January 2003

NEW YORK - Time Magazine Europe asked its readers what nation posed
the greatest threat to world peace. Of the 268,000 respondents(as of this
writing): 7.8% replied North Korea; 8.9% named Iraq; and a shocking 83.3%
said the United States. Good work, President Bush.

The Time poll mirrors feeling around the globe, with the exceptions of
Israel and Britain. American neo-conservatives, however, will dismiss this
poll as just another example of European wimpiness, irrelevance, and anti-
American prejudice. So will Bush and his hawkish entourage, who have
made plain they don't care what the rest of the world thinks so long as
America and Israel get their way.

When advised of growing opposition across Europe to an unprovoked US
attack on Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld summed up the thinking
of Administration hawks by dismissing such concerns as coming from 'old
Europe.'

In contrast, France's able foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin, warned
his nation would delay, or might even veto, efforts by the Bush
Administration to strong-arm the Security Council into a rushed war vote
against Iraq. Germany, China, and Russia backed France.

American rightwingers harbor particular venom for France. Americans
expect their allies to be obedient. While Washington constantly hectors
Europe to take more international responsibility, Europeans are not
expected to disagree with American policy. To Americans, France often
appears downright insubordinate. Ever since General De Gaulle, Paris has
refused to take orders or accept being a junior ally the US.

Europeans see the Mideast very differently from North Americans, thanks
to their long experience in the region, and their media, which provides far
more accurate, balanced and diverse reporting on the region than North
America's often biased press.

Americans accuse the French of arrogance, rudeness, and illusions of
grandeur, which is sometimes true - and certainly true of waiters in Paris.
French rightly accuse some American politicians - epitomized for
Europeans by President George Bush - of being arrogant and ignorant, as
well as loud, uncultured, impatient, and dreadfully lacking in those two
fundamentals of civilized education, geography and history. French
intellectuals warn US TV and movies are spreading 'cretinization' to
Europe's youth, a charge easily confirmed by an evening's viewing of North
American TV.

American neo-conservatives know Europeans sneer at them as dangerous
ideological crackpots, the 2003 version of 1930's militant Marxists. The neo-
con's riposte (oops, a French word) 'we saved you in two world wars. Now
we have to do it again. You're no better than those wimpy, socialist
Canadians.'

These chest-thumpers are unaware that without France's military
intervention in the War of Independence, there would be no United
States. Or that Germany was effectively defeated in 1917 by Britain and
France when the US foolishly intervened, thus preventing a fair,
negotiated peace that would have prevented the evil Versailles Treaty, the
incubator of Adolf Hitler, and World War II.

Most Americans believe their nation alone defeated Germany in World War
II. Not so. Stalin's Soviet Union defeated the Third Reich, destroying 100
German divisions in titanic battles on the Eastern front that made D-Day
seem a minor battle. By the time US forces landed in Europe, Germany was
almost defeated, without a navy, air force or oil.

Smirking Gallophobes love to revile French for being faint-hearted fighters
in World War II. But France lost 210,000 dead fighting the mighty Germans.
The Maginot Line worked as planned, contrary to popular belief. America's
great fortress, Corregidor, failed miserably.

America lost 292,000 dead in the war, including both European and Pacific
Theaters, where the US totally and brilliantly defeated Japan. Poland lost
more soldiers than America, 320,000; even unwarlike Romania lost 300,000
men.

Europe, including the USSR, lost at least 13 million soldiers and 25 million
civilians killed in World War II. When Russia open its secret files, the
numbers may oar. 'Wimpish' Europeans know something more than
Americana about the cost of war. Take the damage of 9/11 and multiply it
1,500 times and you get a taste of the devastation caused by World War II.

Europeans still have fresh memories of their brutal, futile colonial wars.
America, about to embark in Iraq on its first large-scale colonial adventure
since it annexed Cuba and the Philippines in 1899, has forgotten, and
seems fated to relearn, the cost of empire.

By and large Europeans like and admire Americans, as do most people
around the globe. There are some chronic America haters in Britain and
France, to be sure, on both right and left, but in general Europeans are
opposed to the unilateralist, aggressive policies of the Bush White House,
not to America. But it's also plain, Bush's thirst for war and oil are
cul

Re: [CTRL] Sharon calls

2003-01-30 Thread Nurev Ind
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At 05:27 PM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
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In a message dated 1/29/2003
8:55:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW – anything that Jewwish
citizens get in Israel, the Muslim citizens will also
get

Well they didn't get the gas masks, but maybe they are getting smallpox
vaccinations.  I heard the business of the vaccine on
television.  I wish I could remember just which.  It might have
been C-SPAN.  I remember being quite envious that Israel had come up
with a good vaccine that didn't have the side effects our does.  If
I can locate a reference somewhere, I'll put it on. 
Prudy 
Not surprisingly, you don't even know who the players are in this game.

Israeli Arabs, AKA Palestinians who stayed and became citizens of
Israel,
did get gas masks. 
" Palestinians," who are NOT Israeli citizens, and who cheered
Sadam as he rained down
Scuds on Israel, didn't get gas masks from the Israeli government nor
should they have.
They were not the targets. And if they wanted gas masks, they should have
asked you to 
send them some.
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At 08:30 AM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
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In a message dated 1/29/2003
8:10:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

Many Palestinians have said that they fear a worsening of the Middle
East
crisis during a second term in power for Mr Sharon. "You have Sharon
in a
new government, a war against Iraq imminent, the disappearance of
the
peace process: all these factors," said Palestinian cabinet minister
Saeb
Erekat.

Well not so much a worsening as an elimination.  I foresee that
since all Israeli have been vaccinated against smallpox (and not with
that killer thing we're getting here; they've developed a decent vaccine
for Israeli use), and as soon as the war with Iraq gets going, there will
be a sudden "bio attack" of smallpox on Israel which will of
course be blamed on Saddam.  It will not sicken the Israeli, but
the  the unvaccinated Palestinians will die off, and Israel's major
problem will be solved.   I guess it's a modern enactment of
that old saw, "killing two birds with one stone."  Ah
well.  Prudy
Do you even realize what you just did you silly old cow?
You just recreated the old " blood libel " of the Jews
poisoning the well.
The Jews causing the black plague.
If you want to know why we support Israel, YOU and people like you are
the reason.
We know that not much really changes with you people. Fortunately, Israel
can and will
do whatever it needs to do to exist.
If you don't like it, tough shit.
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[CTRL] A Byrd in Hand Bruns the Bush

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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JANUARY 29, 2003
http://www.thehill.com/eisele/012903.aspx

  Albert  Eisele

  On the Record

Senator Byrd takes on the White House

You have to get up pretty early to get the jump on Sen. Robert Byrd.

Even at 85, the West Virginia Democrat and now senior member of the
Senate showed up half an hour early for an 8 a.m. meeting with reporters
at the St. Regis Hotel on a frigid Friday morning.

The occasion was Washington’s longest-running power breakfast for print
journalists — no TV or radio types invited — that the Christian Science
Monitor has sponsored since 1966. Occasionally, the group grills
newsmakers at lunch or dinner or, as with White House political guru Karl
Rove two days earlier, at an afternoon tea.

Fortunately, David Cook, the avuncular successor to Godfrey (“Budge”)
Sperling Jr., who hosted some 3,200 such sessions before retiring last year,
was on hand to greet Byrd.

Like an old lion in winter, the white-maned Byrd made it clear that he will
brook no challenge to Senate prerogatives from Rove or from Rove’s boss,
or from the newly empowered Senate Republican leadership.

As the bleary-eyed reporters straggled in and 18th century English
monarchs looked on from the walls, Byrd delivered a 15-minute tutorial on
constitutional history that showed why The Almanac of American Politics
once said he may come closest to the kind of senator the Founding
Fathers had in mind.

Byrd, who was elected to the Senate in 1958 after six years in the House
and
who has served both as majority and minority leader, lamented that,
because neither members of Congress nor the public understands the
proper role of the legislative branch, many Americans now look to the
president as the source of all authority.

“In the days since Sept. 11, 2001, we have seen power shift to the
executive branch,” he declared. “Without a Congress willing to stand up
for its prerogatives, and without a public that understands the importance
of equal branches of government and separation of powers, that shift will
gain the speed of a downhill truck.”

Byrd issued a blistering broadside against his Senate and House colleagues
— and much of the media — for not opposing the Bush administration’s
“bull- headed rush to war” in Iraq without seeking the support of world
opinion or finding conclusive evidence of Saddam Hussein’s noncompliance
with United Nations disarmament demands.

Declaring himself “amazed at the cowardice on the part of some of our
members,” Byrd called it “absolutely disgraceful that we have not used
that great force, the Senate, to inform the people, to debate this great
issue, to advise the administration, to create a better understanding of
why the administration is asking the American people to send its boys and
girls off to war.”

Byrd warned that Bush “has thrust the United States into a new and
unflattering posture on the world stage [where] America the peacemaker
is now seen as the bully on the block.”

Reminded that Rove (who drew some 70 reporters compared to about 40
for Byrd) told the same group that Americans support Bush’s hard line on
Iraq, Byrd said the president has yet to present clear and compelling
evidence that Iraq is hiding weapons of mass destruction. As a result, he
said, “I don’t think the American people understand why we’re going to
war.”

Byrd insisted that he isn’t acting out of partisan motivations, “so help me
God,” and predicted that Congress would rally behind the president, as it
did for his father in 1991, should he make a convincing case for a
preemptive strike against Iraq.

If not, President Bush may find the dean of the Senate leading the next
antiwar protest at the White House gates.

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[CTRL] Texas Tanks

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HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com | Section:
Local & State
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.hts/metropolitan/1756589
Jan. 29, 2003, 2:08PM

Senator: Texas' budget cash problems get worse

Associated Press

AUSTIN -- The state needs even more cash than first expected to balance
the 2003 budget, a development that Senate Finance Committee Chairman
Teel Bivins today called a "bombshell" in an already tough fiscal session.

Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn delivered the news to lawmakers in a
letter Tuesday, said Bivins, R-Amarillo.

"The reason I called it a bombshell is because it was a surprise," Bivins said.

The state's $114 billion two-year budget uses a combination of sources to
pay for programs and services, including cash from state tax revenue,
income from investment funds and federal money.

The latest problem does not change the anticipated $1.8 billion fiscal year
shortfall. But it is significant because it changes the amount of cash
lawmakers must find to plug the hole by Aug. 31.

The $1.8 billion shortfall is mainly due to lower than expected sales tax
collections and cost overruns in some programs.

The state typically takes out loans -- called tax and revenue anticipation
notes -- to cover projected costs. Officials anticipate there will be enough
tax collections to pay the loans back by the end of the fiscal year.

Because sales tax revenue is not what was expected this time, there isn't
enough cash to repay the loans.

Some cost overruns in programs like Medicaid could be paid with
emergency appropriations of revenue expected for the next budget. But
the repayment of the loans -- some say as much as $1.4 billion, $700 million
more than first thought -- cannot be put off.

If the cash isn't found by Aug. 31, the state would have a deficit, which is
prohibited by the state constitution.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said he hopes $700 million from cuts ordered at
state agencies plus borrowing $700 million from state funds added to $400
million in cash the state has will be enough to cover the shortfall,
including paying off the loans this fiscal year.

The borrowed money from the funds will be paid back with revenue when
the new fiscal year begins Sept. 1, he said.

Strayhorn has predicted slow tax revenue, and high expenses will cause
another $8.1 billion shortfall in the 2004-05 budget.

Some finance committee members questioned the comptroller's office's
timing, saying Strayhorn should have told lawmakers about the budget
problems sooner than this month.

Some Democrats suggested politics played a role as Republicans swept
every statewide office in the November election.

"We don't need any smoke and mirrors or hiding the ball on us for
whatever reason," said Sen. Robert Duncan, R-Lubbock.

Deputy Comptroller Billy Hamilton said the agency wanted to count as
many sales tax receipts as possible before revealing the revenue picture to
lawmakers.

Later, Strayhorn defended her revenue estimate.

"We told the people exactly what we knew, precisely when we knew it,"
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[CTRL] Memo to Washington

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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Memo to Washington’s most powerful people
By Norman Solomon, Special to Arab News
Published on 30 January 2003

OK, let’s review the main points. A basic PR problem remains. While you’re
in a hurry to launch an all-out war on Iraq, the main obstacle is that a
large majority of Americans don’t feel the rush. Uncle Sam’s usual carrots
and sticks have a long way to go at the UN Security Council. The big
disappointment of January is that some key allies haven’t caved yet.

No need to belabor the recent polling numbers. Newsweek did a national
sampling of opinion midway through the month, and you went into a funk
when you read the Associated Press summary: "Most Americans want the
United States to take more time seeking a peaceful solution in Iraq rather
than moving quickly into a military confrontation."

The next sentence was even more cautionary: "By 60 percent to 35
percent, people in the Newsweek poll... said they would prefer that the
Bush administration allow more time to find an alternative to war." And,
what’s more, "a majority would be opposed should this country act
without the support of the United Nations and had no more than one or
two allies."

But before you panic at the specter of peace breaking out, take a long
cold look at another finding: "Support for a military option would be
strong, 81 percent, if the United States were to act with full allied support
and the backing of the UN Security Council." Such full support and backing
is likely to be unnecessary. At home, appreciable war fever is available for
inflammation below the surface, and an initial large majority of domestic
public opinion will not be needed to get the war job done.

It may be possible to chip away at recalcitrant citizens by portraying the
obstinate allies as mischievous or worse. Some media coverage has been
apt. A quiet cheer is in order for your friends at The Washington Post,
where strong editorial support for a righteous war often runs parallel with
news articles. When the Post recently reported on its front page that
France signaled plans to "wage a major diplomatic fight, including possible
use of its veto power" on the Security Council, the newspaper informed
readers that France and other balking countries had just engaged in "a
diplomatic version of an ambush."

An undertone of allied flirtation with treachery is a helpful media spin at a
critical moment. It provides a wisp of underdog status for American
diplomats as they salvage what support they can and preen themselves as
courageous global visionaries — a posture that can augur well for the
aftermath to a State of the Union text swaddling the president’s war cries
in oodles of lofty rhetoric.

The Cabinet and sub-cabinet heavy hitters naturally pile on with a
renewed blitz of network talk shows. One way or another, they explain
that the USA’s war train is leaving the station, and other nations would do
well to hop on board.

Not many pundits emphasize that the war dealers in Washington have, as
an ace in the hole, the ability to begin largescale bloodshed and then let
the devil take the hindmost. When warfare becomes a fait accompli — with
high-tech missiles suddenly flying and with American soldiers killing and
even dying — the public’s numbers quickly shift away from antiwar
sentiment (at least for a while). It’s not necessary to consolidate a
supportive majority before war gets rolling. It’s sufficient to have enough
people cowed and numbed so that opposition to starting the war stays
within tolerable bounds.

As thoroughly modern masters of war, you comprehend the captivating
power of television to simultaneously mesmerize and anesthetize. Once the
Pentagon’s carefully screened video clips are streaming onto TV sets in
wartime, a kind of intoxication sets in; the journalists seem to feel the
rush, and they pass it along. The media pace is frenetic, with adrenaline
pumping; the new conditions of carnage are exactly suitable to play to the
US government’s unrivaled strength — its capacity to inflict massive and
overpowering violence. And, helped along by media spin, most people back
home can be induced to revere the inevitable winner.

"A conqueror is always a lover of peace," the Prussian general Karl von
Clausewitz remarked two centuries ago. The more you yearn to launch a
war, the more you must strive to burnish your image as someone who
craves peace. On your terms, of course. (Creators Syndicate)

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[CTRL] Pat Down Georgie

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Wednesday, January 29, 2003

Is George W. Bush an imperialist?

Posted: January 29, 2003

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Patrick J. Buchanan



© 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Though Iraq does not threaten us, has not attacked us, cannot defeat us,
and does not want war with us,


the United States is about to invade and occupy that country. If we do, it
will be the first purely imperial war in our history, a war launched to
reshape the domestic politics and foreign policy of another nation to
conform to our own.

A war to convert Iraq into a vassal state in the Middle East is something the
War Party has sought for a decade. Sept. 11 gave it the opening to foist its
agenda on an outraged and untutored president.

But does George W. Bush share their vision? Has he, too, come to believe
in the need for an American empire? Does he see in his mind's eye a U.S.-
occupied Iraq – allied with Turkey, Israel and Jordan – ordering Syria's
President Bashar Assad to pull his 35,000 troops out of Lebanon, so Sharon
can go back in and settle scores with Hezbollah?

Does he share the War Party's vision of an Iran surrounded by U.S. air
power in Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, the Gulf, Afghanistan and Central Asia being
ordered to destroy its missiles and nuclear reactors, or face U.S. attack?
Sharon sees it. Anticipating a U.S. occupation of Iraq, he has called on us
to smash Iran next. After that, Libya.

But, again, the question remains: Has George W. Bush himself become an
imperialist? Is the War Party dream of a Middle East and Persian Gulf where
the United States is the hegemonic power that dictates to every capital
and brooks no dissent now his vision as well?

To be blunt, is there a Bush-Sharon Grand Strategy for a Middle East
where all resistance to U.S. hegemony is broken and all opposition to
Israel's occupation of Arab lands ends?

After Iraq, the War Party will demand that Bush confront Syria, Iran and
Saudi Arabia. Will he? Or will he do as his father did after Desert Storm? Try
to compel Israel to get off Palestinian lands and accede to a just peace
with the Palestinian people?

President Bush contends that all he demands of Iraq is surrender of its
weapons of mass destruction. If that is true, as it was true that all his
father demanded was Iraq's eviction from Kuwait, then there is simply an
overlap of Bush policy and Israeli policy, and not some grand alliance or
agreed-upon strategic agenda. Only after U.S troops enter Baghdad,
however, will we learn the answers to these questions.

But if Bush is not an imperialist, why are we about to invade Iraq?

Bush's case for war: Saddam is a murderous tyrant with a grudge against
America who has gassed his own people and has weapons of mass
destruction that will be used on us, or his neighbors, or given to
terrorists. Let us disarm Iraq while we can, lest we confront a situation in
the Gulf identical to what we confront on the Korean peninsula: one of
the world's most dangerous dictators wielding the world's most dangerous
weapons.

The case against war: Iraq had no role in the anthrax attack or 9-11. No
terrorist attack of the last decade is traceable to Iraq. Iraq has invited in
U.N. inspectors and told us to send CIA agents to accompany them. Not
since 1990 has Iraq attacked a neighbor. No matter how evil Saddam may
be, he has been contained, and none of his neighbors fear him or want us
to invade.

Moreover, Saddam has three or four doubles who travel with him in a fleet
of Mercedes, and he sleeps in a different bed every night. This is not a
martyr – this is a survivor. Why would he attack a superpower when it
would mean the certain destruction of him, his sons, his dynasty, his
legacy, his monuments and his palaces, leaving him in the history books,
not as another Saladin, but as the dumbest Arab of them all?

My view: When George Bush began his fulminations about the Axis of Evil,
pre-emptive strikes and "regime change," he had not thought it all through,
but has now become a prisoner of his own oratory. After all that
bellicosity, he simply cannot be the second George Bush to send an army
to the Gulf and order it home with Saddam still in power. And with all
those troops over there primed for war, would they not mock a
commander in chief who declares that Hans Blix will do the job?

As of today, it would take greater courage for George Bush not to go to
war than to go to war. And so, unless Saddam departs or is ousted by the
Ides of March, we are going to war. The War Party, it would appear, wins
this round.




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[CTRL] The Knew Knesset

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[CTRL] No Worm In the Bottle, Georgie (Rot-Gut Again!)

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No proof of Iraq, al-Qaeda links: analysts
By Julian Borger, Michael Howard and Richard Norton-Taylor
January 31 2003

President George Bush used his State of the Union address to paint a
terrifying picture for the American people of another attack like
September 11 - but this time with chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, reinforced the message, telling the
House of Commons: "We do know of links between al-Qaeda and Iraq. We
cannot be sure of the exact extent of those links."

However, a number of well-placed sources in the British public service
insisted there is no intelligence suggesting such a link. "While we have said
there may possibly be individuals in the country [Iraq] we have never said
anything to suggest specific links between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein,"
said one.

Establishing the link is essential to persuading the public that Iraq
represents an imminent threat, and Mr Bush insisted that hard evidence in
the shape of "intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements
by people now in custody" proved the connection was real.

But the intelligence analysts in the US and Britain on whose work Mr
Bush's claim was supposedly based say the connections are tangential at
best, and the available evidence falls far short of proving a secret
relationship between Baghdad and Osama bin Laden.

One intelligence source in Washington, who has seen CIA material on the
link, described the
case as "soft" and "squishy".

That case relies heavily on a man called Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian
member of the al-Qaeda leadership who was wounded in the leg in the US-
led bombing of Afghanistan. In late 2001, according to US intelligence
sources, he sought medical treatment in Iran but was deported and fled to
Baghdad, where his leg was amputated. Telephone calls he made to his
family in Jordan were intercepted.

The question is whether Saddam Hussein's regime knew who he was and
whether it offered him any assistance. "Yes, we have him telling his family
I'm here in Baghdad in hospital, but he's not saying: 'And by the way, I'm
getting all this help from Saddam'," a well-informed source in Washington
said.

According to Jordanian intelligence, Zarqawi left Baghdad after his surgery
and travelled to northern Iraq, where he joined up with Ansar al-Islam, a
militant Islamic group controlling a string of villages on the Iranian border
of the Kurdish self-rule area.

The group is thought to be the creature of Osama bin Laden's second in
command, Ayman al- Zawahiri. Its leader, Mullah Krekar, was detained by
Dutch police last September after arriving on a flight from Iran because
Jordan had asked for his extradition, accusing him of drug trafficking. He
now enjoys refugee status in Norway.

While evidence of Ansar al-Islam's links to al-Qaeda are comparatively
strong, its links with Saddam remain largely circumstantial.

Villages in the area around Ansar territory have reported seeing Iraqi
Mukhabarat agents making contact with Ansar operatives.

There are also reports that TNT seized from Ansar during one of its
assassination attempts on Kurdish officials was produced by the Iraqi
military, and that arms are sent to the group from areas controlled by
Saddam.

About a dozen senior members of Ansar trained at a camp in Afghanistan
which specialised in chemical and biological weapons, such as ricin.

Mr Bush said the evidence for a Baghdad-Bin Laden connection also came
from "statements by people now in custody". But according to a US official
familiar with CIA thinking on the issue, the senior al-Qaeda members in
captivity, such as Abu Zubeidah and Ramzi bin al-Shibh, have not implicated
Iraq.

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[CTRL] Another vote?

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Sharon warns Labour: join me or we vote again
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,884957,00.html
Victory soured for prime minister as left's refusal to consider coalition
pushes Likud towards deal with far right

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Thursday January 30, 2003
The Guardian

Ariel Sharon yesterday threatened to call another election if the refusal
by the battered Labour opposition to join a coalition government forces
him into the arms of the far right and ultra-orthodox religious parties.

"I do not plan to establish a narrow rightwing government under any
circumstances," Mr Sharon told Israeli television. "If there is no choice and
I am unable to form a unity government, I will not hesitate to hold
elections again."

The final results of Tuesday's general election, barring a small proportion
of votes from diplomatic missions and some soldiers, saw Mr Sharon's Likud
party almost double its representation in the knesset to 37 seats. Labour
lost a quarter of its seats, falling to only 19.

The surprise of the election was Shinui, the fiercely secular party of Yosef
"Tommy" Lapid which is agitating for the creation of a government devoid
of any ultra-religious parties. It more than doubled its seats to 15, making it
the third largest party in the knesset.

Smaller parties slumped badly. The ultra-orthodox Shas lost a third of its
seats and the leader of the left- wing Meretz, Yossi Sarid, resigned after
support for his party dropped.

But while Mr Sharon's rightwing bloc has a healthy majority with 67 seats in
the 120-seat knesset, he would be reliant on the far right - notably the
extremist National Union - to forge a functioning government. The prime
minister has now said categorically that he does not want that. Mr
Sharon's aides said the first approach will be to Labour and, if that fails, he
will sound out Shinui.

But Shinui's insistence that it will not serve in any government with ultra-
religious parties - along with its demands for legislation forcing ultra-
orthodox Jews to serve in the army, and for curbs on the huge subsidies
to religious schools - may be more than Mr Sharon can swallow.

The Israeli left, battered by the scale of the electorate's rejection of its
policies and past, is divided on the next step.

The Labour leader, Amram Mitzna, says he wants to maintain a "fighting
opposition" to challenge Mr Sharon's policies in the expectation that his
administration will collapse within a year or so.

But many eyes in Labour are on the former leader, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer,
who is blamed by some in the party for the scale of the defeat.

Mr Ben-Eliezer sat as defence minister in Mr Sharon's 20-month unity
government, over seeing the brutal reoccupation of the West Bank last
year to the horror of the peace camp.

Although he belatedly ruled out Labour joining another coalition
administration for the sake of form during the election campaign, Mr Ben-
Eliezer's allies say that the party will become increasingly marginalised if it
does not bow to the widespread public support for a unity government.

While no immediate challenge to Mr Mitzna's leader ship is in the offing, it
could be provoked by the threat of another general election or some
external factor, such as war in Iraq, which would galvanise public support
behind Mr Sharon's insistence that national security is at stake.

Any challenge aimed at drawing the party into a unity government would
probably also win the backing of the former Labour prime minister Shimon
Peres, who also served in Mr Sharon's government, as foreign minister and
chief apologist abroad. Mr Mitzna believes it would do his party and the
peace camp yet more damage to again enter government with a prime
minister whose tenure has seen more violence against Israeli citizens than
at any time since the independence struggle in 1948, particularly when Mr
Sharon is frequently blamed for provoking the latest Palestinian intifada
with a confrontational visit to the Temple Mount.

In reaching out to Labour, Mr Sharon provoked some wry smiles by invoking
Yitzhak Rabin, the murdered dovish prime minister.

"We must work together and I take great encouragement from the words
of Yitzhak Rabin. He said, 10 years ago, the words that are truly so
important and so true even now, as to the need for unity. Because we are
in a terrible struggle, this is more important than any personal or party
interest," he said.

While Mr Sharon implicitly accuses those parties that refuse to join a unity
government of putting party politics ahead of the national interest, Mr
Mitzna and his allies say it is the prime minister who is jeopardising the
Jewish state with his intransigent insistence that he can conquer "the
terror" through force and impose an emasculated Palestinian state.

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[CTRL] The (New) Marshall Plan

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Issue 11.02 - February 2003

The Marshall Plan

For 40 years, the man Pentagon insiders call Yoda has foreseen the future
of war - from battlefield bots rolling off radar-proof ships to GIs popping
performance pills. And that was before the war on terror.

By Douglas McGray

Andrew Marshall, the Pentagon's 81-year-old futurist-in-chief, fiddles with
his security badge, squints, looks away, smiles, and finally speaks in a voice
that sounds like Gene Hackman trying not to wake anybody. Known as
Yoda in defense circles, Marshall doesn't need to shout to be heard.
Named director of the Office of Net Assessment by Richard Nixon and
reappointed by every president since, the DOD's most elusive official has
become one of its most influential. Today, Marshall - along with his star
protégés Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld,
and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz - is drafting President Bush's plan to
upgrade the military. Supporters believe the force he envisions will be
faster and more lethal; critics say it relies on unproven technology. As US
troops gathered overseas, Marshall sat for a rare interview.

WIRED: Until recently, defense planners talked about a "revolution in
military affairs." Now the buzzword is "transformation." Why the change?
MARSHALL: Transformation is more of an imperative: We've got to transform
the force. I personally don't like the term. It tends to push people in the
direction of changing the whole force. You need to be thinking about
changing some small part of the force more radically, as a way of exploring
what new technologies can really do for you.

What is the next radical change the US will reveal on the battlefield?
"One future intelligence problem: knowing what drugs the other guys are
on." One that's still under way is the emergence of a variety of precision
weapons, and also coupling them with sensors. Another is the ability to
coordinate the activities of separate elements of the forces to a level that
has never been possible before. That's promising, but less far along than
precision weapons. A third is robotic devices: unmanned vehicles, of which
the UAVs are the furthest along, but also similar kinds of devices undersea,
and smaller devices that might change urban warfare by being able to
crawl through buildings.

Are there revolutionary developments that don't involve combat?
There are ways of psychologically influencing the leadership of another
state. I don't mean information warfare, but some demonstration of
awesome effects, like being able to set off impressive explosions in the sky.
Like, let us show you what we could do to you. Just visually impressing the
person.

Did 9/11 change your mind about anything?
Not much. It was obvious that we were wide open to attack.

Has anything happened that surprised you?
The rapidity of the collapse of the Soviet Union surprised me. I thought
they were in trouble, but the rapidity and completeness of the withdrawal
were really striking.

Is there a precedent for one country staying on top through a series of
military revolutions? Or does one country always leapfrog another?
Through most of the 19th century, the British Navy exhibited that kind of
thing. But it was quite interesting the way they did it. They tended to let
other countries, mainly France, do the early experiments and come out
with new kinds of ships. If something looked like a good idea, they could
come in and quickly overtake the innovator. They seemed to do that as a
way of capitalizing on their advantage and saving resources.

Isn't the United States in a similar position now?
That's probably the case. But some of the countries that would be
candidates to make innovations aren't doing it. The Japanese and West
Europeans aren't really making big changes. The Swedes are an interesting
case. For 200 years their basic problem was the possibility of a large-scale
land invasion by the Russians. They've decided that that has gone away. If
anything could happen, it would happen across the Baltic. So they're
rethinking, given modern technology, how to create a defense largely on
sea frontiers. It's possible that they will make some innovations that we'll
pick up and capitalize on.

For instance?
They've designed three new naval vessels. One is an air-independent
submarine [running on fuel cells rather than nuclear power, which allows
it to travel almost silently and remain submerged for extended periods].
They have a surface ship that's a bit more conventional. And then a
radically new naval vessel called the Visby, which has practically no metal
in it other than the engine. It's constructed to be very stealthy.

You're known for following technology outside the traditional realm of
national security. Pharmaceuticals, for instance.
People who are connected with neural pharmacology tell me that new
classes of drugs will be available relatively shortly, certainly within the
deca

[CTRL] Duking (Early) It Out

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Gladiators
by Bob Wallace

The Year: 2003.
The Location: the Coliseum, Rome, Italy.

The Characters: George Bush, Saddam Hussein, a watching crowd of
Americans and Iraqis, and a dozen TV cameras broadcasting the event to
the whole world.

Bush and Hussein, each armed with a sword, are standing in the middle of
the Coliseum. Each is dressed exactly like Russell Crowe in Gladiator.

Bush (waving sword menacingly at Saddam): "Give up your weapons of mass,
uh, 'scuse me, I mean Weapons of Mass Destruction, Saddam!"

Saddam (waving his sword back): "Never, you squished-head, cock-eyed,
inbred, stumble-tongued fake Texan!"

Bush: "What?! Fake Texan! ARRGGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (The crowd roars and cheers.)

Saddam: "Your daddy is stupid and so are you!"

Bush: "Your mother looks like Walter Matthau!"

Saddam: "Yes, I know! I do, too!"

Bush: "That includes her mustache!"

Saddam: "Yes, I know!"

Bush: "When we conquer Iraq we're going to deport all the goats and
sheep! No more sex for you, Saddam!"

Saddam: "What?! Why, you, you – ARRRGGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (More cheering and roaring from the crowd.)

Bush: "When we conquer Iraq and depoos – dipos – get rid of you we're
going to impose democracy on a grateful people!"

Saddam: "Are you just stupid, or maybe just a bad liar? The Kurds are never
going to get their freedom, and you know it! You're going to put in a
puppet dictator just like the one you're getting rid of! Moron! You're
nothing but Howdy Doody to the neocons' Edgar Bergen!"

Bush: "That's Alfred E. Newman to the neocons' William Gaines, you
retardo! Charlie McCarthy was Edgar Bergen's dummy, not Howdy Doody!"

Saddam: "What are you going to do next, quote Austin Powers at me? Make
sure you don't choke on a pretzel!"

Bush (turning red): "Why, I'll, I'll – ARRGGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (More cheering and roaring from the crowd.
Bets are placed and much beer is consumed.)

Bush: "We are doing God's work in bringing freedom to the oppressed!"

Saddam: "BWAHAHA! Idiot! Neither of us is doing God's work! You think God
approves of murder and theft? You're doing the work of a bunch of dumb-
bunny Christian Zionists who think they can kickstart Armageddon and get
Jesus to return! Your daddy was so stupid he thought starting a war would
guarantee him reelection! Didn't work, did it? It could happen to you, too!"

Bush (sputtering): "Why, why, you, you – "

Saddam: "Don't develop more indignation that you can contain, buster!
You'll say 'strategery' or 'warren terrism' or maybe something even more
silly! And remember this – all empires fall! And that's exactly what America
has become!"

Bush: "ARRGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (The crowd roars deliriously.)

Bush: "You tried to kill my dad!"

Saddam: "Kuwaiti propaganda! And you fell for it! Your dad means nothing
to me!"

Bush: "You're in cahoots with Al-Qaida!"

Saddam: "Oh, sure I am! An atheist who believes only in himself, dictator of
a secular government, and you think I'm going to support a bunch of
religious fanatics who despise me and want to overthrow me so they can
set up an oppressive theocracy!"

Bush: (sputtering again): "You tried to kill my dad!"

Saddam: "'You tried to kill my dad! You tried to kill my dad!' Your dad
couldn't find his butt with both hands! He screwed up so badly he let that
psycho white trash rapist Clinton in office!"

Bush (eyes bulging): "ARRGGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (The crowd hoots and stamps its collective
feet.)

Bush: (gasping): "I'm getting tired! Surrender, Saddam, and I'll let you live in
exile!"

Saddam: "Are you nuts? I'm as loony as Hitler! Did he surrender? Of course
not! He went out telling his generals to destroy everything in Germany!
You think I won't waste all the oil wells in Iraq? I hope your troops can
move fast!"

Bush: "They'll move so fast your troops will be on their knees kissing
American soldiers' hands and begging for their lives! Your country was the
cradle of civilization? Look at it now! A Third World joke! What happened,
Saddam? Wrong religion, maybe? "

Saddam (lips quivering in rage): "ARRGGH!"

Clang! Clang! Clang! Clang! (The crowd howls.)

Bush (out of gas and looking around wildly): "Cheney! Rumsfeld! Bennett!
Limbaugh! Boot! Kristol! Hey, where are you guys? I need some help out
here! You aren't a bunch of chickenhawk armchair warriors, are you?"

Saddam: "Buk! Buk! Buk! Buk!"

Bush: (sticking sword into ground): "I declare victory!"

Saddam (sticking his sword into the ground): "I declare victory!"

Both leave the Coliseum to the wild cheers of the crowd. Saddam returns
to Iraq, where much to his surprise he finds he has been overthrown and
replaced with the traditional monarchy. He quickly finds there are not 72
virgins awaiting him in Paradise.

Bush returns to America, where he finds to his surprise that the original
Republic has been restored and 90% of the federal government closed
down. He

[CTRL] War Fever

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Bush’s State of the Union speech: the war fever of a ruling elite in crisis

By the Editorial Board
30 January 2003

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The State of the Union speech delivered by George Bush to a joint session
of Congress Tuesday night reflected a government in deep crisis. The war
fever in the chamber and Bush’s litany of lies and threats created the
impression of a ruling elite that feels itself under siege and overwhelmed
by economic contradictions it barely comprehends. Bush speaks for a
regime that is going to war in the hope that it can somehow extricate
itself from its crisis by means of military aggression and the seizure of
Persian Gulf oil.

It was impossible to sit through Bush’s hour-long tirade without wondering
what George Orwell would have made of such contributions to Newspeak
as Bush’s description of the massive invasion force assembling on Iraq’s
borders as those “who will keep the peace.”

Or such grotesque assurances to the Iraqi people as, “Your enemy is not
surrounding your country; your enemy is ruling your country”; and the
claim that an American military occupation of Iraq “will be the day or your
liberation.”

These words were spoken as the Pentagon leaked reports that the US will
strike Iraq with up to 400 cruise missiles in the first 24 hours of war, in
what is described as a “shock and awe” strategy aimed at terrorizing the
country into submission. (See “US plans “shock and awe” blitzkrieg in
Iraq”)

Secretary of State Colin Powell, meanwhile, has dismissed charges that
Washington is going to war in order to seize control of the country’s vast
oil reserves, insisting that it will only hold them in “trusteeship,” a
euphemism for colonialism that came into vogue in the aftermath of World
War I.

Similarly, on the domestic side, Bush raised the issue of poverty in the US,
and proposed to deal with the problem by further slashing taxes for the
rich. He invoked the massive crisis of health care, and proposed measures
to gut the Medicare program that serves senior citizens.

War is peace, occupation is liberation, and colonialism is freedom. Only
the propaganda department of a regime every bit as depraved as the one
depicted in Orwell’s 1984 could have crafted the words read by Bush from
his teleprompter.

The collection of gangsters and sadists who occupy the top echelons of
both the Bush administration and Congress jumped to their feet to cheer
the president’s vow to unleash “the full force and might of the United
States military” against an impoverished and oppressed country already
severely ravaged by war and economic sanctions.

They whooped it up when Bush, in the language of a Mafia don, alluded to
his government’s success in rubbing out alleged terrorists. Touting the
arrest of more than 3,000 suspects, most of them immigrants rounded up
on minor immigration charges, Bush boasted, “Many others have met a
different fate. Let’s put it this way, they are no longer a problem to the
United States.”

Bush went on to announce the formation of a “Terrorist Threat
Integration Center,” merging functions of the CIA, FBI, the Pentagon and
the new Homeland Security Department. The creation of this new super-
spy agency tears to shreds Constitutional safeguards against government
surveillance of American residents and citizens.

While White House officials had claimed the speech would make the case
for war against Iraq, it did nothing of the kind. Bush reiterated a litany of
alleged transgressions by the Iraqi regime that have all been heard—and
refuted—before.

There were the unsubstantiated and politically implausible allegations of
Iraqi ties to Al Qaeda, a movement whose Islamist hostility for secular
nationalist movements like the Baathists in Iraq is well known. Bush again
claimed that the Iraqi regime had purchased aluminum tubes “suitable for
nuclear weapons production,” an allegation already discounted by the
International Atomic Energy Agency based on its inspections in Iraq.

In a cynical slight of hand, Bush presented UN charges that Iraq has failed
to prove that all of its non-conventional weapons from the 1980s have been
destroyed as proof that such weapons exist today—something even chief
weapons inspector Hans Blix does not assert.

As a “moral” justification for war, the US president cited human rights
reports detailing savage methods of torture used by the Iraqi regime’s
secret police. “If this is not evil then evil has no meaning,” declared Bush.
But the US administration’s moral outrage over torture is relative. It all
depends on who is doing it. All of the hideous methods mentioned by Bush
have been catalogued for decades in human rights reports issued on the
practices of US-backed dictatorships in Latin America and elsewhere.

Moreover, the US itself is presently 

[CTRL] The COD Factor

2003-01-30 Thread John Miller
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Hello there,

Now, you will need to be in a good mood to bother with this email.

For it is tedious in the extreme.

And for some a load of cods wallop.

Very sincerely

John D. Miller,  London

The COD Factor - Counting Oneself Down

I have banged-on about February 1st 2003 as a ‘War Weekend’ or as the ‘Ring
of Fire’, a day of terrorism.

This prediction was first proffered up at the end of last November, as I
noted certain 'numbers' were ‘using’ February 1st to ‘make a statement’.

Yes, I know this all sounds silly, but then that’s what I into.

An example for why February 1st 2003 is seen in ‘Miss Liberty’.

Standing at the entrance to New York harbor is a statue of a woman holding a
book and a torch, a statue 151 feet 1 inch high on a plinth 154 feet high,
so Miss Liberty stands 305.08334 feet above the ground.

The monument of ‘Liberty Enlightening the World’ was a gift of friendship
from the people of France to the United States to commemorate the 100th
anniversary of American independence. And the Statue of Liberty National
Monument officially celebrated her 100th birthday on October 28th, 1986.

Over the years, the Statue of Liberty has grown to include freedom and
democracy as well as this international friendship.

First to the height Miss Liberty, at 305.08334 feet and /0.6 is 508.47223
days and counting from 12:17am Tuesday, September 11th 2001, is February 1st
2003.

And secondly, counting from 7pm October 28th 1986, when the Statue of
Liberty National Monument officially celebrated Miss Liberty’s 100th
birthday, to February 1st 2003 is 16.261334 years, and cubed is 4300 the
reference number for the ‘Shroud’ and 4300 x 430 and /2 is 924,500 square
feet, the once area of the marble covering of the Great Pyramid, the symbol
of ‘Death’.

Of course there are those who have no inclination to consider what I number
crunch, and that is there prerogative, and this goes probably more for
religious people than those who are not so, but still the ‘numbers are a
fact of a kind’.

So February 1st 2003 is locked into probably the most terrible day in my
life, the when some 3,000 innocent people died, mostly in the destruction of
Twin Towers.

The World Trade Center consisted of two 110-story buildings (known as the
"Twin Towers") and five smaller buildings. Architect Minoru Yamasaki
designed the World Trade Center Towers to be among the tallest buildings in
the world, and Tower One was 1,368 feet tall and Tower Two was 1,362 feet
tall. And so the two towers = 2,730 feet x 12 inches is 3 lots of 10,920
inches. And the volume of the greatest tomb on Earth, the Great Pyramid, is
91,575,000 cubic feet, and the reciprocal is 1.0920010920e-08. So another
symbol for ‘Death’, the Great Pyramid is 1092, a number reference for the
Twin Towers.

Now the Pyramid’s ‘Shroud’ reference number 4300 and + the volume of that
which the ‘Shroud’ covers at 1092 is 5392 and so made up of the great
Ancient Egyptian goddess Isis at 580 x 7 times is 4060 + 666 + 666. Or
ABRAXAS at 365 + 365 + 666 x 7 times is the ‘Shroud’ at 4300 + ‘Death’ at
1092.

The Man-Sphinx and the ‘Shroud of Death’.

But it gets worse, in that the ‘Shroud’ at 4300 + ‘Death’ at 1092 at 5392 is
a most diabolical reference number, for its represents the ‘Man-Sphinx’, the
Arabs once called the Terror’ the ‘Guardian of the Pyramid’, and I
determined this reference number also as the Biblical Beast that is to come
out of the sea of people, (Revelation 13).

The Sphinx is some 188 feet in length and 65 feet high and 188 x 65 is
12,220 and 12,220 is made up of 5780 + 6440. And the reference number for
the Alien Flag, the Trilateral Symbol, is 578 and as feet, from the
Subterranean Chamber, the ‘Pit’ to the apex of the Great Pyramid. Whereas
6440 is the Skull and Bones at 3220 + 3220, which is also, the Dragon, and
6440 is the Throne at 2900 + the Moon at 3540, (the Moon of Hades with a 354
day cycle and the Moon is a symbol of a Ruler of Darkness). Thus 12,220 is
fundamentally the Serpent-Dragon, the Sphinx.

Now the Sphinx has a Man’s face, and the reference number for ‘Man’ (not men
or women) but Man, the spirit person within all humans and released at
death, is 126. The same reference 126 is that of the ‘Eye of Horus’ and the
‘Burning Torch’ in the hand of Miss Liberty is 126, a reference for the
Order of the Illuminati.

OK, so the ‘Shroud’ at 4300 + Death at 1092 is 5392 and quartered is 1348
and the reference for the Man-Sphinx at 126 + 1222.

So COD’s ‘Wallop’ for some.

That is the COD Factor, the Counting Oneself Down.

Once upon a time, at 2.30am May 16th 1983, I had my one and only apparition,
where I faced the Adversary. And 3.6804 years later, at 9am January 19th
1987 I made the decision to seriously number crunch. A period of some
1,344.247 days from vision to numbering, and 1,344.247 x 1,344.247 x 10 is
18,070,000 cubic cubits, which as Ancient Egyptian cubits, is equivalent to
91,575,000 cubic feet, the volume of the Great Pyramid. 

[CTRL] Fwd: Broadcast Networks File FCC Comments, But Not Stories

2003-01-30 Thread Euphorian
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ACTION ALERT:
Broadcast Networks File FCC Comments-- But Not Stories

January 29, 2003

The review of media ownership rules underway at the Federal
Communications
Commission will have an enormous impact on the future of broadcasting
and
on media diversity.  The FCC is considering repealing or altering a number
of key rules that limit media consolidation.  But you wouldn't know any of
this from watching network television news.

Media companies stand to gain a lot from a relaxation of the ownership
caps.  So it is no surprise that NBC/General Electric, ABC/Disney and
CBS/Viacom have all filed comments with the FCC.

It's what they haven't done that is more troubling: None of the big three
networks have found the story worth reporting in depth.  Since the FCC
issued its notice on the ownership rules last September, a search of the
Nexis news database turns up one network story: a short summary of the
FCC's announcement on ABC's World News This Morning (9/9/02), which
according to the transcript aired at 4:30 AM.

So, people who rely on network TV for their news are almost certainly
unaware that the FCC is poised to roll back regulations that currently
prevent networks from buying many of their independently owned
affiliates.
 Or that the agency may soon allow one major network to buy another.
Or
that rules that have kept the newspaper business separate from the TV
industry may soon be a thing of the past.

There have been plenty of opportunities to report on these sweeping
proposals.  For example, FCC Chair Michael Powell's appearance before the
Senate Commerce Committee on January 14 provided a perfect news peg.
The
Wall Street Journal's January 3 report, "FCC Flooded With Letters Opposing
Media Consolidation," described the massive public input on this matter.
A hearing in New York this month, attended by all five FCC commissioners,
also attracted media attention-- but nothing on the networks.


ACTION: Encourage the nightly network news programs to report on the
proposed rule changes at the FCC.  You might point out that as the prime
beneficiaries of any relaxations of broadcast ownership limits, the
networks have a duty to explore the full debate on the issue.


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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Edward Korry, 81, Who Was Falsely Tied to Chile Coup, Dies

2003-01-30 Thread Tenor Love
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Edward Korry, 81, Who Was Falsely Tied to Chile Coup, Dies

January 30, 2003
By DAVID STOUT






Edward M. Korry, the United States ambassador to Chile from
1967 to 1971, who was for years wrongly suspected of
helping to plot a military coup to prevent a Marxist from
becoming president there, died yesterday at his home in
Charlotte, N.C. He was 81.

The cause was cancer, said a daughter, Alexandra Korry of
New York City.

Within two years after leaving Santiago, Mr. Korry found
himself at the center of a Congressional investigation into
whether Washington had made covert attempts to block the
accession of Dr. Salvador Allende Gossens, who was elected
in 1970 and who died in a military coup three years later.

Some investigators in Washington found it difficult to
believe that Mr. Korry, as ambassador, could not have known
about efforts by the White House and the C.I.A. - later
made public - to compel Allende's ouster.

After years of protestations, evidence eventually came to
light that Mr. Korry had not been entirely trusted by the
Nixon administration, which indeed had worked around him.

Mr. Korry was named ambassador to Chile by President Lyndon
B. Johnson in October 1967. A former news agency reporter
and magazine editor, Mr. Korry had previously served in the
State Department as a consultant and as the ambassador to
Ethiopia. A fervent anti-Communist, he was dismayed when
Allende was narrowly elected president of Chile in 1970.

"There is a graveyard smell to Chile, the fumes of
democracy in decomposition," he cabled Washington that
year. "They stank in my nostrils in Czechoslovakia in 1948,
and they are no less sickening today."

Mr. Korry never hid his dislike for the Chilean leader,
which is one reason he came under suspicion when Allende
was toppled in 1973, ushering in more than 16 years of
military dictatorship.

President Richard M. Nixon, like John F. Kennedy and
Johnson before him, feared the spread of communism in Latin
America.

Like his predecessors, Nixon tried to undermine Allende,
who had been a source of anxiety in Washington since the
early 1960's, when his presidential aspirations became
obvious.

Suspicions that the Central Intelligence Agency helped to
orchestrate the coup surfaced in part because the columnist
Jack Anderson published, in 1972, documents from the
International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation showing
that the company had worked with the C.I.A. to undermine
Allende.

Later, Senate investigators disclosed that in 1970
President Nixon had ordered Richard Helms, the Director of
Central Intelligence, to try to keep Allende from assuming
power.

Congressional investigators eventually established, after
weeks of hearings before the two Senate committees in 1973,
that the C.I.A. had used I.T.T. as a conduit to funnel at
least $8 million to anti-Allende groups over the years.

Mr. Korry told senators and reporters that he had engaged
in hardball diplomatic tactics to weaken Allende. But he
insisted he had nothing to do with coup-plotting. Had he
known of a plot, Mr. Korry maintained, he would have warned
the White House to stay out of it, or risk getting mired in
another Bay of Pigs.

Some found Mr. Korry's account difficult to believe, in
part because he repeatedly refused to fully answer some of
the lawmakers' questions, insisting that to describe
confidential communications and orders would be contrary to
"the entire moral contract" he lived by as a diplomat.

Some of his questioners could not imagine that he, as
ambassador in Santiago, could be unaware of the maneuvering
against Allende. Mr. Korry's credibility dissolved with the
disclosure of an I.T.T. cablegram in which two company
officials in Santiago notified company headquarters that
the ambassador had received the "green light to move in the
name of Richard Nixon" against the new Chilean leader.

Much later, Justice Department investigators determined
that the "green light" cable had been seen by the C.I.A.
station chief in Santiago, not Mr. Korry. (Richard Helms,
who was Director of Central Intelligence in 1973, and an
I.T.T. official were eventually convicted of misdemeanor
charges for having misled the lawmakers. They were fined
and given suspended sentences.)

On Feb. 9, 1981, The New York Times published a front-page
article reporting that a number of C.I.A. officials
involved in the anti-Allende operations backed up Mr.
Korry's assertions that he had been kept in the dark
because he was not entirely trusted by the Nixon White
House or the people at C.I.A. headquarters.

"Korry never did know anything," said an intelligence
operative who had worked in the American embassy in Chile.

After leaving government, Mr. Korry served briefly as
president of the Association of American Publishers. He
taught international relations at Connecticut College from
1977 to 1979 and was a visiting scholar at Harvard's Center
for I