Re: [CTRL] leftist nuts
-Caveat Lector- 3/18/2003 2:44:28 PM, Eric Hoffsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Theodore Roosevelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're simply full of ... Ah, come on Rough Rider: put your monocle in and get a sense of humour! There are so many definitions of so many different words that I'm not sure anyone knows for sure what they mean. When there are statements made without a common frame of reference and no supporting definitions or references to overcome this deficiency in communication, their use become pointless and meaningless. And this goes for so-called party designations, as well. I don't think a Democrat or Republican from one coast is the same thing as on the other coast ... might have something to do with where they are and the regional needs. Left and Right came out of the trans- / post-Revolutionary period in France (their revolution) and some pseudosophisticate decided he or she needed some Continental lingo to make them sound cultured. Liberal and Conservativehave gotten so far off the mark that they are meaningless. A true Conservative would be one who held to the intent of the Constitution as it was originally written and interpreted by those who wrote it. A Liberal (leftie) would then be one who tried to be loose in translation and interpretation and therefore agree to forgoing the proscription to engaging in foreign entanglements and supporting pre- emptive wars. So, all these compassionate Conservatives are really busy- body Liberals. As far as wits are concerned, I knew someone who had lost theirs once upon a time and I tried to help find them. But ... no one could ever describe one to me so - alas - I had to give up ... A:E:R A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another reason to oppose War(mongers)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.vaiw.org/vet/modules.php? op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=59 With our military poised to attack Iraq,the Republican Party is poised to devastate the budget of American veterans. By Kate McLaughlin Today the House of Representatives will vote on a resolution that if passed will devastate the Veterans Administration's budget and severely reduce its medical, disability, and benefit programs. On the verge of war in Iraq, the Republican Paty has placed in its cross-hairs American veterans from earlier wars. The Republican majority of the House Budget Committee is reducing President Bush's proposed budget by about $844 million in health care and an additional $463 million in benefit programs including disability compensation, vocational rehabilitation, education survivor's benefits, and pension programs from next year's budget. In addition to these cuts, the GOP is planning to cut $15 billion from the veteran programs over the next 10 years. The soldiers and sailors that are currently in harms way in the the Middle East, are about to have their future veterans' benefits and health care slashed. If, that is, the Republicans get their way. According to the Veterans Administration, 28 million veterans are currently using VA benefits and another 70 million Americans are potentially eligible for such programs, a quarter of the county's population. With the economy in a downward spiral and unemployment rising quickly, an increased number of veterans will be turning to the Veterans Administration for assistance. Yet, the VA budget is about to shrink. As the nation expresses support for our soldiers and sailors on the verge of war in the Middle East, even from us who are deeply opposed to this unnecessary war, says Stewart Nusbaumer of Veterans Against Iraq War (www.vaiw.org), the Republicans are expressing contempt by cutting the veterans budget. Nearly a third of the Gulf War veterans have submitted claims to the Veterans Administration for disability, this is about 209,000 veterans. Gulf War II may have as many or more requesting VA assistance, but with a Veterans Administration that will be smaller and with less resources. This could mean the loss of 19,000 nurses, equating to the loss of 6.6 million outpatient visits or more than three-quarters of a million hospital bed days, says Edward Heath, National Commander of the Disabled American Veterans. But that is not all of the devastation that will be caused by the proposed cuts. Congress will be reaching into the pockets of our nations service-connected veterans, including combat disabled veterans, and robbing them and their survivors of a portion of their compensation. Ninety percent of VAs mandatory spending is from cash payments to service-connected disabled veterans, low-income wartime veterans, and their survivors. Is there no shame? Commander Heath asked. According to Congressman Lane Evens (D-IL), the ranking Democratic Member of the House Veteran's Affairs Committee, these cuts are picking up the slack for the controversial tax cuts, he stated. These cuts must be made, so that our government can afford to provide a tax cut which will benefit only the wealthiest Americans, many of who never served in the military. This is utterly humiliating to every veteran and every active duty service person. On the verge of war, the Republicans are stabbing veterans of earlier wars in the back. Veterans and family members go to VAIW's Homepage (above right is a button), then scroll down the homepage and read the Statement of Purpose, and if you agree fill in the appropriate box, there is one for veterans and one for family members. Note: Kate McLaughlin served in the US Air Force and the Force Reserve. She is currently a full time student and is studing nursing. Posted Wednesday, March 19, 2003 Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutra A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
[CTRL] Yahoo! News - U.S., Russia Delay Nuclear Weapons Treaty
-Caveat Lector- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=518ncid=732e=3 u=/ap/20030318/ap_on_re_eu/russia_us_treaty A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] COW - Some real heavy hitters (if you play whiffle ball)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,917268,00.html US claims 45 nations in 'coalition of willing' Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor Wednesday March 19, 2003 The Guardian The impression is that the US and Britain are going it alone against Iraq, helped only by a small contingent of Australians, a far cry from the wide- ranging coalition organised by George Bush's father for Desert Storm 12 years ago. But the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, sought to dispel such a view yesterday by claiming that there was, in fact, also a coalition this time around. The state department provided a list of 30 countries offering support. Mr Powell said. There are 15 other nations who for one reason or another do not yet wish to be publicly named but will be supporting the coalition. The coalition of the willing emerged after phone calls to the various countries by Mr Bush and Mr Powell yesterday. The list of supporters issued by the state department is: Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Uzbekistan. There are five Arab countries too, but they insist they are opposed to attacking Iraq and instead are limiting their role to the defence of Kuwait. The coalition is willing to offer moral support, though most countries are not offering soldiers. Britain has contributed about 45,000 troops, Australia has offered 2,000 and Poland, 200. Albania has offered 70 soldiers for noncombat roles, and Romania contributed 278 non-combat experts in demining and in chemical and biological decontamination, and military police. Spain, one of the most vocal supporters of military action, confirmed yesterday it would not be sending troops. Japan is restricting its support to post-Saddam reconstruction. Turkey was included in the coalition, even though it has still to agree to cooperate. Guardian Unlimited Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003 Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutra A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conservative Position on War
-Caveat Lector- Support Our Boys in Uniform by Harry Browne March 19, 2002 Now that George Bush has quit pretending to weigh the pros and cons of war, and has issued an unacceptable ultimatum to Saddam Hussein, we can expect the war to begin before the week is out. Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman was first out of the box with the slogans of appeasement when he said, It's time to come together to support our great American men and women in uniform and their commander-in-chief. And Senator Bob Graham (who must have the same speech-writer) added, At a time like this, all Americans must come together to support our commander-in-chief and our men and women in uniform. I, too, support our boys in uniform but in a different way. I dont want to see a single one of them die in a useless war that will leave the world no better than before, and that will probably make America much less safe rather than more secure. As well, the Iraqi people have been starved and hurt and deprived enough. George Bush likes to talk about how Saddam Hussein has stalled for twelve years. But during those twelve years, three American Presidents have stalled on ending the cruel and brutal sanctions that have left Iraqis without the food, medicine, and income they need to live even at third- world levels. Everytime Hussein has complied with a demand from an American President, the Americans have upped the ante or called the compliance a cynical ploy. Now our boys are going to go over there to kill thousands of those poor Iraqis. They will kill with bombs or missiles or mortars or rifles. However they do it, they will leave a lot of dead bodies on the ground when they come home. Long-Term Effects And when they come home, they will have learned that life is cheap, that collateral damage is inevitable, that killing people that had nothing against you is sometimes necessary. Our boys will never be the same again. Is this how we want our children to turn out? Some of them wont even come home, since collateral damage works both ways. Of those who do come home, some will suffer for years perhaps for the rest of their lives from guilt, or with unexplained symptoms arising from the firing of weapons armed with depleted uranium. Is this what you want for your children? If your son is one of the casualties, what will you think ten years from now when Iraq is no more a democratic, friendly nation than it is now? What will you think when it becomes obvious that this wasnt a war against Saddam Hussein, it was a war against reason the first in a series of empire-building adventures against the likes of Iran, Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and who-knows-who- else? Is this why you had children to send them off to kill and to risk their lives in a meaningless war for the benefit of a handful of politicians? Im sorry Senator Lieberman and Senator Graham, but I not only think youre mealy-mouthed, I think youre disgraceful. If you really think the country should unite now, it should be united against the idea of attacking a virtually defenseless nation on the unverified say-so of a known liar. To come together to support insanity is not patriotic, it is not reason, it is not moral. It simply makes you as guilty as the people perpetrating this war. If you really want to support our boys over there, do the honorable thing: Demand that they be brought home now. comments on this article? send them to backtalk! [visit backtalk!] Find this article at: http://www.antiwar.com/orig/browne26.html SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the article. Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutra A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with
[CTRL] Right On!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.weeklydig.com/?ContentId=2773 Dont Tread on Them: Exploring the Anti- War Right by Thom Pugh Email this Article to a Friend With the march to war in Iraq being pushed forward by a conservative, Republican administration, it is tempting to mistake the pro- and anti-war ramparts for reflections of Americas bipolar politics. Last months global peace protests, the largest in the world since the Vietnam era, were coordinated and inspired by left-leaning organizations like International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) and MoveOn.org. In Congress, pro-war Democrats like Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) and Rep. Richard Gephardt (D- MO) have been excoriated by liberal media, from Common Dreams to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, not just for supporting unilateral warmongering, but also for allegedly cozying up to the right wing. Though the rtight has a long history of opposition to military intervention, strong criticism of the Bush administrations foreign policy is noticeably lacking in such right- leaning havens as the Fox News Channel and the National Review. Dividing the issue along traditional political lines is an attractive tactic for activists on both sides who need a convenient straw man, and a mass media that needs to connect with Joe Six-Pack as well as Joe Millionaire. With little exposure in the mainstream media, and the alternative media generally leaning left-of-center, individuals who oppose the second Gulf War, yet still consider themselves a part of the right, have chosen to form their own outlets to the public. The Other American Conservatives Behind much of the pro-war sentiment in the White House is a branch of the right known as neoconservatism. Historically, many of the various interests that fell beneath the umbrella of the right wing in the United States took their cues from the 18th and 19th century classical liberals, like the British philosopher John Locke and the French statesman Frdric Bastiat, who favored a free market economy and minimal government. Resisting state intervention abroad was seen as an inseparable corollary to resisting it at home. However, after the Second World War, the GOP received an influx of disenchanted ex-New Dealers and New Leftists who retained the Trotskyist ideal of using military might to create a global economic and political order trading Marxism or social democracy for state capitalism. [Neoconservatism] has made [the conservative movement] more globalist, less Middle American, probably less racist and much more aggressive in foreign policy, says Scott McConnell, executive editor of The American Conservative. Most of the major conservative journals are wholly or partially neocon [President] Bush has completely staffed his administration with neocons, especially in foreign policy. While McConnell, a former neoconservative, recognizes the branchs more progressive contributions to racial issues, he considers its penchant for military intervention unhinged. the United States cannot remain free at home if it is trying to police the world. I supported the Cold War, which we generally fought quite prudently (Vietnam [being] a big exception), but [I] dont think the United States can successfully rule the world. Iraq [does not pose a threat], but an arrogant foreign policy does. It makes us the blame guy for everything that goes on. In October 2002, McConnell, with columnist Taki Theodoracopulos and former presidential candidate (and MSNBC regular) Pat Buchanan, launched The American Conservative. The magazines coverage extends to many of the issues Buchanan supported in his election bids, such as restrictions on globalization and immigration, though non-interventionism may be its strongest focus (the topic appears in eight of its 12 cover stories to date). While Americas policy in the Middle East is a concern, the editors are not reflexively opposed to the American military, says McConnell, who did not choose this war. Shouting from the Laptops Along with the Buchananite conservatives, some of the loudest anti-war voices on the right belong to the libertarians. The founders of the contemporary libertarian movement, including the Libertarian Party, included Cold War opponents in the GOP and the anti- Vietnam wing of the Young Americans for Freedom, the rights own outlet for campus activism. Today libertarianism is most active on the Internet, and one of the oldest and largest anti-war websites, Antiwar.com, is not only libertarian-leaning, but was established by two registered Republicans. We hope to be a portal for the anti-war movement, says webmaster Eric Garris, who founded the site in 1995 with columnist Justin Raimondo. For another thing, we want to build a broad-based, non-sectarian anti-war movement. We are not typical left-wingers we [publish] a lot of things from veterans. Were trying to present a more patriotic, conservative anti- war view to balance the rest of the anti-war movement thats out there.
[CTRL] All-Time Low
-Caveat Lector- http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23867 Arab News SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY Arab Opinion of US Hits All-Time Low James Zogby, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Published on 19 March 2003 WASHINGTON, 19 March 2003 Arab public opinion toward the United States has dropped to dangerously low levels, even before an anticipated US-led attack on Iraq. These are the findings of a recent Arab American Institute/Zogby International poll (AAI/ZI) poll of 2,600 individuals from key Arab countries. The poll was conducted in early March of 2003 and had a margin of error of between +/-3.8 to +/-5. The countries polled included some of the United States strongest allies in the Middle East: Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. In an earlier AAI/ZI poll, done in March of 2002, we found that US favorable ratings were already quite low and that the factor that drove these negative opinions was the unbalanced US policy toward the Palestinians. It appears that this years poll results have been impacted as well by the United States unilateralist approach toward Iraq. The most significant drops in US ratings occurred in Morocco and Jordan. In 2002, for example, 34 percent of Jordanians had a positive view of the United States as compared with 61 percent who had a negative view. In 2003, only 10 percent of Jordanians now hold a positive view of the United States, while 81 percent see the country in a negative light. Similarly, in Morocco the favorable/ unfavorable rating toward the United States in 2002 was 38 percent to 61 percent. Today it is 9 percent favorable and 88 percent unfavorable. The United States favorable/unfavorable rating was already quite low in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. It has remained low. In 2002, the ratings in Egypt were 15 percent favorable to 76 percent unfavorable. In 2003 Egyptians ratings of the United States are 13 percent favorable and 80 percent unfavorable. In Saudi Arabia the rating toward the Untied States was 12 percent favorable to 87 percent unfavorable in 2002. Today it has dropped to 3 percent favorable and 97 percent unfavorable. In the UAE the ratio showed almost no change from an 11 percent favorable/87 percent unfavorable in 2002 to 11 percent favorable/85 percent unfavorable in 2003. In all five countries, US policy toward Iraq received only single digit favorable ratings, while nine respondents out of ten opposed current US policy toward that country. These numbers do not translate into support for the Iraqi regime. In fact majorities in three of the five countries indicated that they want to see the regime in Baghdad disarmed of all weapons of mass destruction. In answer to the question Do you agree or disagree that the government of Iraq should fully comply with UN weapons inspectors? 52 percent of all Arabs in the Emirates agreed while only 34 percent disagreed. In Egypt 51 percent agreed while 41 percent disagreed. A majority of Moroccans agrees that Baghdad should cooperate. Only in Jordan and Saudi Arabia did slightly less than one in four agree with the demand while two-thirds disagreed. What is important to note is that Arabs in all these countries do not support the United States acting unilaterally to disarm Iraq. When asked, If Iraq does not comply with UN inspectors, or if the UN finds that Iraq has been hiding weapons of mass destruction, would you support or oppose United States unilateral military action to make Iraq comply? Those responding positively were quite low: 14 percent (Egypt), 9 percent (UAE), 8 percent (Jordan), 3 percent (Saudi Arabia) 1 percent (Morocco). When asked, however, if they would approve of a UN endorsed effort to disarm Iraq should the regime fail to comply the percentages increased considerably: 32 percent (UAE), 29 percent (Egypt), 18 percent (Saudi Arabia), 16 percent (Morocco), 10 percent (Jordan). What should be most disturbing to US policy makers is the lack of confidence in and goodwill toward US policy that this poll establishes. In the 2002 poll, for example, we asked a number of what are called projective questions. For example, If the US were to apply pressure to ensure the creation of an independent Palestinian State, would that make you more favorable, less favorable or make no difference in your attitude toward the United States? In almost all cases, in 2002, about 80 percent of all Arab respondents indicated that this change in policy would make them more favorably inclined toward the United States. The current poll however, did not elicit such a response. Only in the UAE did a majority indicate that their attitude toward the United States would improve if the US were to apply pressure to ensure the creation of a Palestinian State. In Jordan, only 31 percent said their attitude would improve and in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Morocco those indicating that their attitudes toward the US would improve were 27 percent, 26 percent, and 15 percent respectively.
[CTRL] Software bug bites US military
-Caveat Lector- Software bug bites US military Computer vandals have been exploiting a flaw in Microsoft's Windows 2000 operating system even before the software giant warned people of its existence. A server operated by the US Army has already been attacked via the security hole. If successfully exploited the loophole can give attackers control over a target machine. In an advisory, Microsoft called the flaw critical and has been telling customers to patch their computers in case they fall victim. Bad bug The flaw is present in servers running Windows 2000, up to and including service pack 3, and version 5.0 of Microsoft's Internet Information Server (IIS) software. It arises because of Microsoft's implementation of a program called WebDAV that lets different people remotely manage what is on a net server. Using a cleverly crafted HTTP request an attacker could exploit the flaw to gain control of a server and either crash it or make it run programs of their choice. Microsoft has issued an advisory about the flaw, calling it critical and said an attacker that successfully exploited it could gain complete control over a machine. The software company has also provided a patch to close the loophole as well as other tools to help customers protect themselves against attack. Often there is a hiatus between the discovery of a flaw in software and its active exploitation by vandals. However, in this case at least one net server has been attacked via the WebDAV loophole before security advisories have been issued. The server, belonging to the US Army, was successfully attacked in early March. No serious damage was done because it was not connected to any important systems. Once patched it was attacked again. Microsoft has reportedly spent time talking to customers warning them to take action over the flaw. Security firm ISS has also reported seeing isolated attacks carried out using the WebDAV flaw. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/2860189.stm Published: 2003/03/18 11:13:49 BBC MMIII Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutra A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Every Day Is Opposite Day
-Caveat Lector- http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0303/S00151.htm Bill Grigsby: With Bush, Every Day Is Opposite Day Tuesday, 18 March 2003, 3:26 pm Opinion: Scoop Reader Opinion With Bush, Every Day Is Opposite Day By Bill Grigsby If you have children, and you've been searching desperately for a way to explain the twisted logic of contemporary U.S. politics to them, you should document the process when they begin therapy, any notes you might have will come in handy. Moreover, if you perchance take John Ashcroft or President Bush at their words, you might be a candidate therapy yourself. It's not easy pleasing the thought police. Ashcroft is the answer to the question, why do you need civil liberties if you've got nothing to hide? But don't assume you've gone off the deep end if it seems the White House's media strategy is aimed at people with the attention spans and intellectual sophistication of a toddler. The strategies of Karl Rove and his PR swat team triggered in me flashbacks to early parenting, when nap management was a religion, and distraction and diversion, simplistic reduction, and moral superiority were tools of convenience. In fact, Children's games can be useful in translating White House PR swill. Because children are so important to the White House electoral strategy (in the sense that white suburban moms tend to have them), it seems fitting to use a child's game to interpret their policy statements. While kids don't have much use for contorted grownup logic, they do like playing the opposite game. If it's opposite day, everything you say is backwards. Kids probably like it because when it's opposite day, logic gets stood on its head, communication turned into a game, with sudden license to say things you normally couldn't get away with. Much like White House PR machine. Of course, one can't just summarily dismiss everything the White House says as linguistic backmasking. For instance, when our President says he wants to squash Saddam Hussein like a scurrying roach, I think he means it. We can only hope that he's bluffing when it comes to the pre-emptive use of nuke- yewler weapons, and not swigging grain alcohol and rainwater cocktails in the Oval Office. In the opposite game, if the president says he's for Medicare choice, he really means that he wants to force elderly citizens who need prescription drug coverage into an HMO. When he says he wants long-term Medicaid reform, he really means he plans to gut Medicaid and dump the fiscal and humanitarian mess completely onto the states. When Bush says compassion, things get tricky. True, he's shown contempt for the poor, he's trying to cut food stamps, school lunch programs, surplus commodity programs, he's forcing welfare recipients to work full-time with reduced benefits (without creating any living wage jobs), decreasing rent subsidies for the poorest, and denying legal immigrants public assistance. No, compassion is reserved for predatory low-wage employers, investors who've endured the oppressive injustices of double taxation on their stock dividends, and faith- based organizations run by the likes of Pat Robertson, who has seen the light and is now praising the virtues of federally subsidized welfare privatization. On with opposite day. If the President says that this White House Doesn't govern from polls, alluding to the Clinton Administration's obsession with public opinion polling, guess what he really means? As Joshua Green has noted, Bush spends as much as Clinton did on polling, but it's done in secret, probably because instead of using it to formulate popular policies, it's used to market unpopular ones. But the opposite game is not as simple as it seems. Karl Rove didn't get to be Bush's Brain by guessing zodiac signs at the mall. For instance, when the President calls for more responsibility from welfare recipients, it doesn't mean he wants them to be less responsible. It could mean he's diverting attention from his own office's reckless and deceptive management of the budget. When the president says Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein has shown utter contempt for U.N. Security Council resolutions, it may mean that Bush is the one who's shown utter Contempt for international law, multilateral treaties, indispensable allies, democratic process, the constitutional separation of powers. And, perhaps, the truth. When he mentions his clear skies program, it doesn't necessarily mean dirty skies. It means clean enough skies, that is, dirtier air than we would have under current law. And your antennae should be on full red alert when you hear the President preach increasing U.S. energy independence, since White House energy policy would make the U.S. increasingly dependent on fossil fuels, and on stability in a region we seem determined to destabilize. The $1.2 billion giveaway he promised Detroit to produce a hydrogen fuel cell car is a tribute to inefficiency, market dysfunction and oil consumption. One of my
[CTRL] Neo-Totalitarianism
-Caveat Lector- http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23868 Arab News SAUDI ARABIA'S FIRST ENGLISH LANGUAGE DAILY Neo-Totalitarianism Nicolas Buchele, Arab News Staff Published on 19 March 2003 JEDDAH, 19 March 2003 The person of the US president is an irrelevance. To appeal to George W. Bush amusing character though he may be is like berating a broom for omitting to sweep in the corners. The new totalitarianism prevailing in America and taking hold in its satellites around the world has learned important lessons from the failed experiments of the past. The first of these lessons is that the greatest liability to the survival of a regime is a strong and erratic leader. A point often made in history classes is that Hitler should have stopped at Kiev instead of thinning out his eastern front to move on toward Moscow. Thus without Hitlers deranged ambitions, the Third Reich might really have lasted a thousand years. Similarly, if Stalin had kept his genocidal ambitions in check, the Soviet Union might have continued to enjoy its initial popularity among sections of the West and at home. With these examples in mind, the leader has been eliminated as a factor in US politics. George W. Bushs very nullity as a politician throws into relief the fact that the US has long been governed, not by its people, but by interests that are happy to remain largely anonymous, do not rely on individuals for their hold on power, and are recognizable in public mainly by a soothing corporate blue. Americans often seem baffled that others fail to admire their system of government. They know after all that in the US there exists a lively culture of debate, where the whole lunatic spectrum of opinion can find a platform of one kind or another (though at the same time the difference between the political parties it is actually possible to elect is vanishingly small). They have a vibrant and largely unchecked artistic community. They have the first amendment. Even Greg Palast, at the end of his expose of corporate power The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, found himself heartened by the American culture of customer complaint, the notion that you have enforceable rights and can sue for them in a court of law. This is, after all, the nation that gave us the concept of animal rights. Hollywood is happy to feed this perception by producing blockbusters like Erin Brockovitch and The Insider, where ordinary people take on corporations and win, in other words, films which, by seeming to challenge, actually affirm the existing order. The reason for all this is that the new totalitarianism has learned a second lesson from its heavy-handed predecessors. If artists and intellectuals were able to do precisely nothing about Hitler or Stalin or any of the legion of tin-pot dictators around the world, it follows that you might as well have freedom of expression. In the new totalitarian system, people can say whatever they like, and it makes absolutely no difference. The impending war on Iraq is only one example among many of a supposedly sovereign public completely powerless in the face of a government bent on a course of action. That this should surprise some people outside America is odd. Proponents of the enlightened self-interest of nations like the late Alan Clark MP who argued that it would have been better for Britains imperial status if it had signed a peace with Hitler in 1941 have long held that nations do not have morals. They have interests. Thus the idea clogging up the editorial pages of American papers that people ought to be grateful to the US is childish. Alliances are formed where the interests of nations coincide or where one nation expects to take advantage of another. In other words, America has never been a moral guardian to the rest of the world, and it would be peculiar to expect it to be. It has simply more astutely safeguarded its interests, except where it has allowed its interests to become distorted in countries like Vietnam. But these blunders have long been rectified. The neo-conservative writer P.J. ORourke some years ago said the Americans had won the Vietnam war, and so they have if not the one they were fighting. Vietnam is now in all but name a busy capitalist country, and no doubt the better for it as far as its long- suffering people are concerned. On the whole, however, annexation by mostly carrot and a little stick has worked best, and the US has avoided the limitless aggression that proved the downfall of old-style regimes. Many more obvious US satellites in Southeast Asia and elsewhere have benefited from the ties that bind them and are evolving comparable pseudo-democratic systems. The middle-class subjects of these satellites would be foolish to prefer their country to be differently aligned, and to the slum-dwellers it doesnt matter either way. This practically guarantees a stable dependency on the motherland, which an invasion could never have achieved. The most important lesson
[CTRL] NYPress - Books - Alan Cabal - Vol. 16, Iss. 12 - 3/19/2003
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[CTRL] Israelis arrested for pointing
-Caveat Lector- http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/18/1047749773388.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Impeached?
-Caveat Lector- VDARE.COM - http://www.vdare.com/roberts/war.htm March 17, 2003 Will Bush Be Impeached? By Paul Craig Roberts We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy. - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, U.S. Representative to the International Conference on Military Trials, August 12, 1945 Will Bush be impeached? Will he be called a war criminal? These are not hyperbolic questions. Bush has permitted a small cadre of neoconservatives to isolate him from world opinion, putting him at odds with the United Nations and Americas allies. What better illustrates Bushs isolation than the fact that he delivered his March 16 ultimatum to the U.N. concerning Iraq from an air base in the Azores, where there was no prospect for massive demonstrations against his policy. Standing with Bush against the world were Britain and Spain. The U.S., once a guarantor of peace, is now perceived in the rest of the world as an aggressor. Its victim is a small Muslim nation unable to defend its own air space, much less to project power beyond its borders. If Iraqis attempt to resist invasion, they will be slaughtered. On the eve of Bushs ultimatum, it came to light that a key piece of evidence used by the Bush administration to link Iraq to a nuclear weapons program is a forgery. Senator Jay Rockefeller, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, has asked the FBI to investigate the origin of the forged documents that the Bush administration used to make its case that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. Secretary of State Colin Powell denies that the Bush administration created the phoney documents. It came from other sources, Powell told Congress, but he could not identify the source. As Santayana said, Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it. The administrations use of forged evidence opens Bush to unflattering comparisons that his enemies will not hesitate to make. They will point out that it was Hitlers strategy to fabricate evidence in order to justify his invasion of a helpless country. He used S.S. troops dressed in Polish uniforms to fake an attack on the German radio station at Gleiwitz on August 31, 1939. Following the faked attack, Hitler announced: This night for the first time Polish regular soldiers fired on our own territory. As German troops poured into Poland, Hitler declared: The Polish state has refused the peaceful settlement of relations which I desired, and has appealed to arms. The German High Command called the German invasion of Poland a counterattack. Thanks to his neoconservative cadre, outside the U.S. Bush is now a disliked and distrusted politician. Bushs enemies will exploit parallels to naked aggression. After many decades of U.S. leadership in building an international order, Bushs enemies will hold him accountable for his defiance of this order. As much as those of us who prefer national sovereignty to world government lament the fact, the many decades of appealing to world opinion and enlisting it in behalf of our foreign policies has resulted in considerable authority being poured into that nebulous concept. In setting Bush in opposition to this American creation, neoconservatives have exposed him to serious charges. Democrats, who intended to use allegations about the 2000 Florida vote to destroy Bushs presidency as illegitimate, now have more deadly ammunition. Senator Rockefeller will not be the only one to ask if the forged nuclear documents are part of a Bush administration campaign to deceive the public. Polls show that 50% of Americans believe that it was Iraqis who hijacked the airplanes and crashed them into the World Trade Towers and Pentagon. Inattention or media incompetence are the likely explanations for this extraordinary misinformation, but some will now blame deception. Others are already thinking that the forged documents are part of a neoconservative campaign to deceive President Bush and win his support for their Middle Eastern policy. Many perceive Bush as following a reckless path, one that politicians normally try to avoid at all costs. If Iraq resists and devastating new explosives, which our military has been testing at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, are dropped on Baghdad, there will be massive civilian deaths and charges of war crimes fueled by anger at American arrogance. Bush and his advisers have forgotten that the power of an American president is temporary and relative. The U.S. is supposed to be the worlds leader. For the Bush administration to pursue a policy that sets the U.S. government at odds with the world is to invite
[CTRL] Major dates
-Caveat Lector- Print this article | Close this window Major dates in Saddam's presidency March 19 2003 Saddam Hussein, president since 1979, has led Iraq from riches to rags, through two wars and an international embargo which has devastated his country. 1979 July 16: Saddam Hussein, vice-president of the Revolutionary Command Council (RCC), becomes president of Iraq, secretary-general of the Baath party and president of the RCC. 1980 March 18: A law is adopted which provides for the creation of a National Assembly elected by universal suffrage for a mandate of four years. Sept 22: The Iran-Iraq war breaks out. 1981 June 7: Operation Babylon is launched by the Israeli airforce which destroys a nuclear reactor at Osirak, which had been constructed by the French and would have allowed Iraq to make nuclear bombs. 1988 March 17-18: Kurds supporting an Iranian offensive in northern Iraq are brutally supressed by Baghdad. About 5000 are killed in the village of Halabja alone by chemical weapons. Aug 20: A ceasefire ends the war with Iran. Some 300,000 Iraqis had perished in the conflict. 1990 Aug 2: Iraqi troops invade Kuwait. Aug 6: The UN imposes an embargo against Iraq. 1991 Jan 17: Operation Desert Storm is launched against Iraq. Feb 27: Kuwait is liberated and Baghdad accepts ceasefire conditions on February 28. March 7: Following a Kurdish uprising in the north and a Shiite one in the south the allied forces install a no- fly zone to the north of the 36th parallel and begin the humanitarian mission Provide Comfort to aid Kurdish refugees. 1992 Aug 27: A no-fly zone is created in southern Iraq, to the south of the 32nd parallel to protect the Shiite population. 1993 Nov 26: Baghdad accepts unconditionally UN resolution 715 which provides for the supervision of Iraqi disarmament. 1994 Nov 10: Baghdad formally recognises Kuwait and its established frontiers. 1995 Oct 15: The first presidential referendum since 1979 results in a 99.96 percent yes vote in favour of Saddam remaining in power. His mandate is extended for a further seven years. 1996 Feb 23: Two sons-in-law of Saddam, Hussain and Saddam Kamel who had defected to Jordan in August 1995, are murdered three days after their unexpected return to Iraq, provoking international condemnation. May 20: The UN and Iraq sign the oil-for-food programme (resolution 986) which allows Iraq to export $US2 billion dollars worth of crude oil every six months in exchange for food and medical equipment. 1997 Nov 17: American arms inspectors in the UN inspection team, UNSCOM, are expelled triggering an international crisis. The crisis is resolved in the coming days through the intervention of Russia, which wins Baghdad's agreement for the return of the inspectors. 1998 Dec 16-19: Operation Desert Fox. Some 500 missiles are launched on Iraq over three nights following new tensions between the US and Iraq, and the departure of the UN inspectors. 1999 Dec 17: The UN Security Council adopts Resolution 1284 setting up a new disarmament regime for Iraq. 2001 May 22: The United States and Britain propose to the Security Council a new sanctions regime for Iraq that would lift restrictions on civilian trade, but would strengthen controls on military items and clamp down on contraband oil sales. Iraq rejects the project in October. 2002 Oct 15: Saddam is re-elected as president for another seven years, winning 100 per cent of the vote with a 100 percent turnout. Nov 27: UN weapons experts resume their inspections in Iraq. Dec 7: Saddam apologises to the Kuwaiti people for invading their country in 1990. AFP This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/18/1047749778441.html Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many genera- tions. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutra A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its
[CTRL] Cook's resignation
-Caveat Lector- What has come to trouble me most over past weeks is the suspicion that if the hanging chads in Florida had gone the other way and Al Gore had been elected, we would not now be about to commit British troops. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2859431.stm Cook's resignation speech Here is the full text of Robin Cook's resignation speech in the House of Commons, which won applause from some backbenchers in unprecedented Commons scenes. This is the first time for 20 years that I have addressed the House from the back benches. I must confess that I had forgotten how much better the view is from here. None of those 20 years were more enjoyable or more rewarding than the past two, in which I have had the immense privilege of serving this House as Leader of the House, which were made all the more enjoyable, Mr Speaker, by the opportunity of working closely with you. It was frequently the necessity for me as Leader of the House to talk my way out of accusations that a statement had been preceded by a press interview. On this occasion I can say with complete confidence that no press interview has been given before this statement. I have chosen to address the House first on why I cannot support a war without international agreement or domestic support. Backing Blair The present Prime Minister is the most successful leader of the Labour party in my lifetime. I hope that he will continue to be the leader of our party, and I hope that he will continue to be successful. I have no sympathy with, and I will give no comfort to, those who want to use this crisis to displace him. I applaud the heroic efforts that the prime minister has made in trying to secure a second resolution. I do not think that anybody could have done better than the foreign secretary in working to get support for a second resolution within the Security Council. But the very intensity of those attempts underlines how important it was to succeed. Now that those attempts have failed, we cannot pretend that getting a second resolution was of no importance. French intransigence? France has been at the receiving end of bucket loads of commentary in recent days. It is not France alone that wants more time for inspections. Germany wants more time for inspections; Russia wants more time for inspections; indeed, at no time have we signed up even the minimum necessary to carry a second resolution. We delude ourselves if we think that the degree of international hostility is all the result of President Chirac. The reality is that Britain is being asked to embark on a war without agreement in any of the international bodies of which we are a leading partner - not NATO, not the European Union and, now, not the Security Council. To end up in such diplomatic weakness is a serious reverse. Only a year ago, we and the United States were part of a coalition against terrorism that was wider and more diverse than I would ever have imagined possible. 'Heavy price' History will be astonished at the diplomatic miscalculations that led so quickly to the disintegration of that powerful coalition. The US can afford to go it alone, but Britain is not a superpower. Our interests are best protected not by unilateral action but by multilateral agreement and a world order governed by rules. Yet tonight the international partnerships most important to us are weakened: the European Union is divided; the Security Council is in stalemate. Those are heavy casualties of a war in which a shot has yet to be fired. I have heard some parallels between military action in these circumstances and the military action that we took in Kosovo. There was no doubt about the multilateral support that we had for the action that we took in Kosovo. It was supported by NATO; it was supported by the European Union; it was supported by every single one of the seven neighbours in the region. France and Germany were our active allies. It is precisely because we have none of that support in this case that it was all the more important to get agreement in the Security Council as the last hope of demonstrating international agreement. Public doubts The legal basis for our action in Kosovo was the need to respond to an urgent and compelling humanitarian crisis. Our difficulty in getting support this time is that neither the international community nor the British public is persuaded that there is an urgent and compelling reason for this military action in Iraq. The threshold for war should always be high. None of us can predict the death toll of civilians from the forthcoming bombardment of Iraq, but the US warning of a bombing campaign that will shock and awe makes it likely that casualties will be numbered at least in the thousands. I am confident that British servicemen and women will acquit themselves with professionalism and with courage. I hope that they all come back. I hope that Saddam, even now, will quit Baghdad and avert war, but it is
Re: [CTRL] Reality
-Caveat Lector- What do you mean, where was I when we were supporting Saddam? Well, I was saying it was wrong, as I have said about every brutal dictator we have supported. Where were you? I still don't understand what this has to do with the inherent problem. The actions happened regardless, and continue to happen, and what I did or did not do about it is inconsequential to the matter at hand. What is important is breaking the cycle. But enough people need to feel compelled to do something about the people who are perpetuating this cycle, and not fall into the trap of believing that hired assassins propped up as puppet leaders make great friends and allies, because there's some other evildoer, and the enemy of our enemy is our friend, and later believing that these supposed friends are now our greatest enemies because they did pretty much what would be expected of hired assassins. The people who are perpetuating this cycle are our leaders, and we allow them to continue with our silence or ignorance. But I am not sure that the people here in the US are ready to confront this problem, yet, although we will surely have to at some point, and probably not long from now. - jt - Original Message - From: Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] So where were you when we were supporting Saddam? Where were all of the knowledgeable leftist groups when this was happening? I know the political groups on the right weren't around either. Although I'm Jewish, I realize that only the Christian groups are reporting the brutality that is taking place around the world, even though it is brutality toward Christians that is being reported by them. We as a society seem to have gone past the point where Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You has any importance. We are into survival of the fittest barbarism now, and everyone is taking a part. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Tinnin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Reality -Caveat Lector- You know, this would be a lot more meaningful if the US didn't support brutal dictators when it suits our purposes ... like Saddam Hussein. Today's friends and/or paid mercenaries and assasins are tomorrow's evildoers, Saddam included. This is incredibly convenient, as there is a never-ending flow of evildoers to conquer, as one more former friend suddenly becomes the enemy. It's funny how much we used to like Saddam, to the point of arming him with the same weapons we harp about him having now, during his cruelest moments, no less. Ah, the perils of empire. - jt - Original Message - From: Zuukie [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following describes the enemy of the US in action. What they do to their own they would do to Americans if they had the opportunity.If you think this is just war propaganda, I would call your attention to a book titled Circle of Fear by Hussein Sumaida with Carole Jerome. 1991, Brasseys. From the dust jacket.Hussein Sumaida, the son of one of Saddam Hussein's principal lieutenants, was a member of the Iraqi elite. Underlying that cruelty of Ba'th Party members who used propaganda, torture, and murder to turn Iraq into a police state. Appalled, Sumaida began to work for Israeli intelligence, but he was soon discovered and awaited the worst. Surprisingly, Saddam spared his life in an unprecedented act of loyalty to Sumaida's father and put him to work as an Iraqi spy. Thus was the author drawn even deeper into Saddam's vicious system, into the circle of fear. Hussein Sumaida's compelling story takes the reader inside the bizarre inner workings of Iraqi society and the Iraqi intelligence service, and offers a unique firsthand look at Saddam Hussein's brutal rule. Sumaida's escape from the Ba'th dictatorship is the stuff of the best spy thrillers. He now lives in Canada under an assumed identity. The author is not kind to any of the intelligence services with whom he had dealings. But Saddam Hussein's cruel operations parallel those of Hitler. Yes it can happen in these enlightened times. March 18, 2003 See men shredded, then say you don't back war By Ann Clwyd There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein's youngest son] personally supervise these murders. This is one of the many witness statements that were taken by researchers from Indict - the organisation I chair - to provide evidence for legal cases against specific Iraqi individuals for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. This account was taken in the past two weeks. Another
Re: [CTRL] leftist nuts
-Caveat Lector- The only people I know who are offended by being called leftists are leftists. I am conservative. Call me a right-winger, I don't mind. Ray I doubt you have any idea what principles guide a true American Conservative. Your shallow rhetoric repeats the party line of the NeoCon Gang (mostly former Marxists or Corporate Socialists). But what can you expect from someone whose only source of information is the World Net Daily. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Fountain of Prometheus!
-Caveat Lector- Phew! But number crunching with a difference... The Fountain of Prometheus! There is the Art Deco sculpture, a 20th century work by sculptor Paul Manship, that has long become a landmark of central New York City, it is the Fountain of Prometheus at the Rockefeller Center. So thanks to Rockefeller, we may think of the Akkadian beginning of humankind in the Babylonian Fertile Crescent and maybe think about a new era for humankind. OK, the story goes that with all of the monsters out of the way the world was ready for mankind. This job of creating man was given to Prometheus (Forethought) and his brother, Epimetheus (Afterthought). And having given all the best gifts to animals, Prometheus discovered he had nothing left to give to man. So he asked his brother for help. Prometheus agreed and thought of ways to make man superior to animals. So, he made them walk upright like the gods and gave them fire. And for a long time, only man roamed the Earth (Earths spiritual twin). There were not even one woman as yet in the Garden of Eden. Zeus was really mad at Prometheus for giving fire to man. Zeus was not happy, and he sought revenge on mankind and Prometheus... Zeus went to Hephaestus and had him create a beautiful woman out of clay. The Four Winds blew life into her, and the gods have her a beautiful box, warning her to never open it. Her name was Pandora which means gift to all , and she was the first woman. She was then sent as a gift to Epimetheus, who became his wife. Now his brother Prometheus had warned him never to accept gifts from Zeus, but Epimetheus didn't listen. Eventually, curiosity got the better of Pandora and she opened the box. Plagues, sorrow, and mischief flew out, but she closed the lid in time to save Hope. Then Zeus focused on punishing Prometheus. He sent Force and Violence to fetch Prometheus, and they took him to Caucasus where they chained him to a rock. Zeus also wanted information from him because he knew that one day he would have a son who would dethrone him. Only Prometheus knew the name of the mother who would bear this child. Hermes was sent to plead with him, but still Prometheus refused to tell. So Zeus had Prometheus chained to a rock, and an eagle (or a vulture) came to feast on Prometheus' liver each day. And each night the liver would grow back (since Prometheus was immortal and couldn't be killed) only to be eaten again the next day by the eagle, and on and on each day for eternity. After many years Heracles eventually happened upon Prometheus, and so pleaded his case to Zeus. And Zeus relented and allowed Heracles to free him from the rock, and to kill the menacing eagle. Prometheus, the great rebel of injustice, never told who was to become the mother of his child. Now on his release, Zeus made Prometheus wear a ring with a stone setting, a stone cut from the rock to that which he had been chained, a ring as a permanent reminder of his punishment. OK, now to making men and women and the first Jewish person, maybe Abraham of the Fertile Crescent, that became Babylon. And the importance of water in the making of the New World Order of people can be seen when standing in front of the Fountain of Prometheus at the Rockefeller Center. Thus to using numbers to form and fashion the new people. Prometheus made man into soul men with use of fire and water. Hephaestus made Pandora, a woman of the world, the woman with that of Eves and Sarahs reference number 127 that came out of man and fire and water (12.6 x 12.6 x 0.8 is 127.0080). Yahweh made the Jewish people, the people who were as shepherds but with seemingly an attitude of Ishmael, having the symbol of Sun time, the Sabbath Day. Now whereas the reference number for the Fire of Zeus remains at 109 for all three, the numbers for water are different. The water-number Prometheus would have used for man into men is nearly the most dense natural water is at 62.4232 pounds per cubic foot, whereas the natural water Hephaestus used was also the most dense using the equivalent to 62.4254 pounds per cubic foot, at 316.3577 pounds per Ancient Egyptian cubic cubit (5.06776 cubic feet). And the same natural Egyptian dense water was seemingly used by Yahweh and equivalent to 7.517051 pounds per Ancient Hebrew Omer (208.080 cubic inches). OK, Prometheus made spirit man at 126 x Fire at 109 x water at 62.4232 pounds and squared x 2 is 1.47000e+12. And 147 is the reference for the soul men and also for the sheep of the Church. Whereas, Hephaestus used the spirit man at 126 x Fire at 109 x the most dense Ancient Egyptian natural Nile water at 316.3577 pounds and squared thrice is 1.27e+53, hence the reference number for worldly and beautiful Pandora at 127. And so to Yahweh, the God of History, used spirit man at 126 x Fire at 109 x a sacred Omer of natural water at 7.517051 pounds and squared twice is 4 x 2.84000e+19, that is Sun time, a Suns Day at a revolution of 28.4 Earth days. And sun men at 284
[CTRL] US Spying on It's Allies: Phone bugs found at EU-HQ
-Caveat Lector- http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6154944%255E25778,00.html Phone bugs found at EU-HQ March 19, 2003 TELEPHONE bugging systems have been found targeting a number of delegations at EU headquarters, notably the French and the Germans, an official said. The illegal systems were found in the Council building, where meetings of EU ministers and leaders are held. An EU summit is to be held tomorrow and Friday, overshadowed by Iraq. Intelligence services from the council and the countries concerned have launched an investigation into the bugs, but it is impossible at this stage to determine who planted them, said the official. According to the French daily Le Figaro, Belgian police have identified Americans as those responsible. But Belgian authorities said police had not been involved in the case, and declined any further comment. The investigation has only just started and we know nothing yet about who has benefited from this crime, said Dominique-Georges Marro, head of the council's press service. A spokesman for the US mission to the EU declined to comment on the report immediately. I don't have anything on it right now ... it's something which just came to our attention, he said. France and Germany have been in a fierce standoff over the looming war on Iraq, notably with EU members Britain and Spain who support the US threat of conflict. Marro said the bugging systems were found in recent days during regular inspections by security services. Attempts had previously been made but this is the first time that we have found a system already in place, he said. The investigation should determine how long it has been in place, he added. A small number of delegations were targeted, including the French and German, he said, declining to list any other countries involved. The bugging system was apparently put in place via the council's switchboard to monitor telephone lines to rooms used by delegations inside the building. EU political leaders and their civil servants meet in such rooms in the sidelines of ministerial meetings and summits. The French and German delegations declined immediately to comment on the investigation. Agence France-Presse http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6154944%255E25778,00.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush Clings To Dubious Allegations About Iraq
-Caveat Lector- http://truthout.org/docs_03/032003G.shtml Bush Clings To Dubious Allegations About Iraq By Walter Pincus and Dana Milbank Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday 18 March 2003 As the Bush administration prepares to attack Iraq this week, it is doing so on the basis of a number of allegations against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that have been challenged -- and in some cases disproved -- by the United Nations, European governments and even U.S. intelligence reports. For months, President Bush and his top lieutenants have produced a long list of Iraqi offenses, culminating Sunday with Vice President Cheney's assertion that Iraq has reconstituted nuclear weapons. Previously, administration officials have tied Hussein to al Qaeda, to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and to an aggressive production of biological and chemical weapons. Bush reiterated many of these charges in his address to the nation last night. But these assertions are hotly disputed. Some of the administration's evidence -- such as Bush's assertion that Iraq sought to purchase uranium -- has been refuted by subsequent discoveries. Other claims have been questioned, though their validity can be known only after U.S. forces occupy Iraq. In outlining his case for war on Sunday, Cheney focused on how much more damage al Qaeda could have done on Sept. 11 if they'd had a nuclear weapon and detonated it in the middle of one of our cities, or if they had unleashed . . . biological weapons of some kind, smallpox or anthrax. He then tied that to evidence found in Afghanistan of how al Qaeda leaders have done everything they could to acquire those capabilities over the years. But in October CIA Director George J. Tenet told Congress that Hussein would not give such weapons to terrorists unless he decided helping terrorists in conducting a WMD [weapons of mass destruction] attack against the United States would be his last chance to exact vengeance by taking a large number of victims with him. In his appearance Sunday, on NBC's Meet the Press, the vice president argued that we believe [Hussein] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. But Cheney contradicted that assertion moments later, saying it was only a matter of time before he acquires nuclear weapons. Both assertions were contradicted earlier by Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who reported that there is no indication of resumed nuclear activities. ElBaradei also contradicted Bush and other officials who argued that Iraq had tried to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes to use in centrifuges for uranium enrichment. The IAEA determined that Iraq did not plan to use imported aluminum tubes for enriching uranium and generating nuclear weapons. ElBaradei argued that the tubes were for conventional weapons and it was highly unlikely that the tubes could have been used to produce nuclear material. Cheney on Sunday said ElBaradei was wrong about Iraq's nuclear program and questioned the IAEA's credibility. Earlier this month, ElBaradei said information about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium were based on fabricated documents. Further investigation has found that top CIA officials had significant doubts about the veracity of the evidence, linking Iraq to efforts to purchase uranium for nuclear weapons from Niger, but the information ended up as fact in Bush's State of the Union address. In another embarrassing episode for the administration, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell cited evidence about Iraq's weapons efforts that originally appeared in a British intelligence document. But it later emerged that the British report's evidence was based in part on academic papers and trade publications. Sometimes information offered by Bush and his top officials is questioned by administration aides. In his March 6 news conference, Bush dismissed Iraq's destruction of its Al Samoud-2 missiles, saying they were being dismantled even as [Hussein] has ordered the continued production of the very same type of missiles. But the only intelligence was electronic intercepts that had individuals talking about being able to build missiles in the future, according to a senior intelligence analyst. Last month, Bush spoke about a liberated Iraq showing the power of freedom to transform that vital region and said a new regime in Iraq would serve as a dramatic and inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region. But a classified State Department report put together by the department's intelligence and research staff and delivered to Powell the same day as Bush's speech questioned that theory, arguing that history runs counter to it. In his first major speech solely on the Iraqi threat, last October, Bush said, Iraq possesses ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of miles -- far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey and other nations -- in a region where more than 135,000 American civilians and service members
[CTRL] Midas Ears: Unspeakable Truth
-Caveat Lector- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:25:30 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EXCERPT: If it is proven now beyond any reasonable doubt that the Jews of France secretly bought and subverted French media for many years in order to distort the national discourse and eventually push unprepared France into the horrible and unneeded World War Two, is it impossible to consider that the Jews of the US have secretly taken over their national media and are now pushing the US into a horrible and unneeded World War Three? An immensely wealthy and powerful republic has been hijacked by a small cabal of individuals, all of them unelected and therefore unresponsive to public pressure. - Edward Said Midas Ears By Israel Shamir A new spectre haunts America. It enters the well-protected boardrooms of newspapers and banks, shakes the deep foundations of its towers. It is the spectre of glasnost: the dark secret of Jewish power is out. Just recently it was third rail, touch-and-die, deadly dangerous to mention, certain end to a career. Just recently, Joe Public snapped his TV from an eminence with an Israeli passport to a member of a Jewish think-tank, and muttered to himself: Surely it is just a coincidence that so many important and largely unelected people in our country happen to belong to this small minority group. Surely it is just a coincidence that they belong to different parties but reach the same conclusions. Surely it is just a coincidence that ninety per cent of American foreign aid goes to their cousins in prosperous Tel Aviv. Surely it is just a coincidence that they run our newspapers, television, cinema, universities. Anyway, we are not allowed to notice this elephant in our sitting room. Only rare desperados comment, as Edgar Steele did on Rense.com: The silence in America concerning Jews is simply deafening, isn't it? The old adage has it that, when visiting a foreign country, to ascertain who really runs things, one need determine only who is spoken about in whispers, if at all. Judged by this measure, the Jews rule supreme. Indeed, when I referred to Jewish media lords during a UNESCO conference in the summer of 2001, the audiences hearts missed a beat. The yet-unfought War on Iraq changed this. The American Ultimatum date was set on 17 March, the Jewish feast of Purim. Purim, 1991 saw destruction of Iraqi armies and death of 200,000 Iraqis. Too many coincidences for a purely American war. The Americans peeped into the bottomless abyss of World War Three and woke up from their generation-long stupor. Thus the first victim of the Iraqi War is not truth, but the strongest taboo in the West. A Democrat member of Congress, usually a most docile specimen, one James Moran, dared to tell his supporters: If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq we would not be doing this. He was immediately slapped by a Jewish overseer: It is simply stunning to hear Representative Moran make such accusations, said National Jewish Democratic Council Executive Director, Ira N. Forman. First, a number of the current leaders of the anti-war movement are Jewish, and Jewish organizations have clearly not been at the forefront among those groups actively and stridently supporting a war in Iraq. Forman had spoken, and the media reported and amplified his view, and Moran duly recanted, slapped. But he is not the only one. The secret is out, and like the secret of King Midas and his long ears, it is being sung now from coast to coast, despite the frantic efforts of the organized Jewish community to clamp the lid back on the boiling cauldron. Kathleen and Bill Christison,[i] two ex-CIA experts, exposed the link between right-wing American Jews and the Bush Administration. Edward Said, the most celebrated American thinker of Palestinian origin, stated the cause: An immensely wealthy and powerful republic has been hijacked by a small cabal of individuals, all of them unelected and therefore unresponsive to public pressure.[ii] He was seconded by courageous Herman, Neumann and Blankfort. These Americans of Jewish origin object to the un-elected, anti-democratic Jewish power as they would object to any disproportionate minority power. Their presence, as they were not afraid of the anti-Semitic label, was instrumental in turning the tide and saving the intimidated majority from its browbeating. Edward Herman, the author of Manufacturing Consent (together with Noam Chomsky), wrote of the powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States, which advances Israeli interests by pushing for U.S. aid and protection to Israel, and, currently, by pressing for a war against Iraq, which again will serve Israeli interests. This lobby has not only helped control media debate and made congress into `Israeli occupied territory, it has seen to it that numerous officials with dual loyalties occupy strategic decision-making
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] September 11 - Islamic Jihad or another Northwoods? ( Updated Repost )
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- SEPTEMBER 11, ISLAMIC JIHAD OR ANOTHER NORTHWOODS? ( Updated Repost ) Note: I've added a paragraph to Section I on the manner in which the September 11 hijackers obtained their visas. I've added some new information to section II, and I've added a reference to the Lavon Affair to Section VIII. INTRODUCTION In 1962, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, our highest and most responsible military officers, proposed to commit acts of terrorism aimed against U.S. citizens, designed to look as though they had been the work of operatives of Fidel Castro. The object was to provide a pretext for an invasion of Cuba. Among many imaginative proposals, the Chiefs suggested: We could develop a communist cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. And further ... We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba ... casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation. [ http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf ] Although these plans were never carried out (they were rejected by President Kennedy), similar proposals WERE actually implemented 1970's and 1980's in Europe by the CIA, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians. In one bombing of a busy train station in Bologna Italy in 1980, 86 people were killed and over 200 wounded. The bombings were designed to look like the work of communist extremists although they were in fact committed by right wing extremists working under the direction of the CIA. The aim of these operations was to whip up anticommunist sentiment among our european allies. [Arthur E. Rowse: Gladio: The secret U.S. War to subvert Italian Democracy. Covert Action Quarterly No. 49, Summer 1994. http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gladio.html ] Was September 11 a similar operation, mounted by elements of our own government in order to whip up public support for an all out war against the Arab states in the Middle East? The evidence strongly suggests that this is the case. My aim here is to provide a brief introduction to some of this evidence with pointers for further reading. [ Note: Throughout this post is deeply indebted to the timeline compiled by the Cooperative Research Group (CGI). See: http://cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/ ] *** OUTLINE: I.The hijackers were not fanatical Islamic fundamentalists (far from it). A) They smoked and drank and partied hard. B) Several of the hijackers had training at secure military facilities in the United States C) The hijackers operated quite openly, as if they had powerful protectors in the U.S. II. The hijackers were not capable of the feats of piloting that are attributed to them. III. The hijackers lead back to Pakistan's ISI, and through the ISI, back to the CIA and the Bush administration. A) Funding for the hijackers came from ISI Director General Ahmad B) On September 11 Ahmad was in Washington meeting with key administration officials. C) On September 12 the administration announced Ahmad's agreement to collaborate in their War on Terrorism. D) The ISI is not a tool of bin Laden - it's the very much the other way around. IV. FBI investigations that could have prevented September 11 were deliberately sabotaged by FBI Headquarters. A) At least two FBI investigations were deliberately stopped that could have prevented September 11. B) The hijackers must have KNOWN that the FBI would not
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Closeted Gays in Calif. Town Investigated
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47987-2003Mar18.html Closeted Gays in Calif. Town Investigated By BRIAN MELLEYThe Associated PressTuesday, March 18, 2003; 5:21 PM For years, legend had it that there was a group of powerful men in Bakersfield secretly living gay lives, sometimes with deadly consequences. When the county's No. 2 prosecutor was stabbed to death in his home last year, the "Lords of Bakersfield" legend broke out into the open - and the city's daily newspaper decided to confront it head-on. In a series of stories that ran in January, The Bakersfield Californian found evidence of a ring of closeted gay men who had sex with teenage boys and used their influence to keep from being prosecuted. Four of the men ended up slain between 1978 and 1984; in most of these cases, young men were charged with killing their suitors. The story further questioned whether the Kern County district attorney's office, led for the past two decades by tough-on-crime Ed Jagels, played favorites. The newspaper also ended up turning the spotlight on itself: It implicated its late publisher as a member of the ring. In the weeks since then, the report has been hailed as gutsy and denounced as innuendo. Some protesters have called on Jagels to resign, and scores of letters to the editor have poured in to the paper in this conservative city of about 250,000, in the heart of California's Bible Belt. "That particular day the newspaper belonged behind the counter with Penthouse," said Karen Perry, as she inflated balloons in her floral shop. "It makes Bakersfield look like a terrible place. This is a great place of family values." Katie Kier, a union representative, said she had heard the rumors several years ago and praised the paper for having "the guts" to bring it out in the open. "It should have come out sooner," she said. Newcomers to Kern County, where subdivisions have sprouted among oil derricks, cotton fields and vineyards 110 miles north of Los Angeles, had occasionally heard of the Lords of Bakersfield, a name coined in the 1980s by a local newspaper editor for a loosely connected group that was said to extend back to at least the 1950s. But it had been nearly two decades since a killing had fit the pattern. Then prosecutor Stephen Tauzer was found dead in his garage in September with a knife in his head. "There was a lot of talk - could Tauzer be one of the Lords of Bakersfield?" Executive Editor Mike Jenner said. "All that came bubbling back." Columnist Robert Price was drafted to look into Tauzer's killing, but the story quickly grew into something much larger. Research quickly led him to former Publisher Alfred Fritts, who died in 1997 from AIDS. A teenager accused of one of the murders identified Fritts in court in 1983 as a man with whom he lived and had sex. Jenner went to Publisher Ginger Moorhouse, Fritts' sister, and she told him to do whatever was needed to pursue the story. The resulting articles, based on court files, scores of interviews and old news stories, cited evidence suggesting a police commissioner, a well-known hairdresser, a millionaire businessmen, a lawyer and the county's personnel director were all part of the ring of gay men. The story questioned why Fritts and others were never charged with unlawful sex with a minor, and suggested the Lords of Bakersfield looked out for each other. It also drew parallels between the Lords legend and Tauzer's slaying, examining - inconclusively - whether his relationship with a young drug addict fit the pattern. Charles Davis, a journalism professor at the University of Missouri, has used the story as an example of a community newspaper tackling difficult subjects and provoking discussion.
[CTRL] Fwd: Emergency Day After Actions March 22 New York Anti- War March
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- United for Peace and Justice Call for Emergency Day After Anti- War Actions If the U.S. Attacks Iraq, Take to the Streets! War now appears imminent. If the bombs start falling, we call on you to join with United for Peace Justice and other groups around the country in organizing emergency protests. However you choose to express your opposition to war - from silent vigils to loud marches to nonviolent civil disobedience - get out on the streets immediately and join with millions around the world in demanding an end to the bloodshed. In every corner of the U.S. people are already planning protests the day a war begins, or the day after. We urge you to contact your local groups to find out what is planned and how you can help. If nothing is planned, it is not too late to organize something. The most important thing is that hundreds of anti-war protests take place in cities and towns all across the country! You can use this website to list emergency response demonstrations in your community http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar_gxinput.php, or to view currently scheduled day after events. http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?caltype=8old=old Some Ideas for Action: 1) A candlelight vigil in the center of town or in front of a federal building (court house, post office, military installation, any other federal facility). 2) A rally in a central location. 3) A march through a populated part of your city, which could start or end with a rally. 4) Meetings at schools, universities, places of work, community centers, religious institutions. 5) Walk-outs from schools and/or work places...people can then join a march or rally with others. 6) Vigils, picket lines or other protests at the local offices of your Congressional representatives demanding they use the power of their office to stop the president. 7) Non-violent civil disobedience at any appropriate locations: a federal building, a defense contractor, the office of a politician who voted for war, key streets or intersections in your city. If this war begins we should find creative ways to interrupt the normal flow of life. For more information on nationally coordinated, local civil disobedience efforts, contact the Iraq Pledge of Resistance.http://www.peacepledge.org/resist/default.shtm CLICK HERE FOR UPDATES ON ANTI-WAR ORGANIZING FROM UNITED FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE http://www.unitedforpeace.org/email.php [for more information: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ ] === Protesters Vow to Greet War with Widespread Civil Disobedience by Jeff Donn Published on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 by the Associated Press http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0318-01.htm Having had months to focus on the buildup toward conflict with Iraq, America's anti-war activists say they are ready to mark the first days of war with protests in dozens of cities coast to coast. They vow to block federal buildings, military compounds and streets in a rash of peaceful civil disobedience. They say they will walk out of college classes, picket outside city halls and state capitols, and recite prayers of mourning at interfaith services. It is sort of an acknowledgment that we are probably not going to be able to stop the war, said Joe Flood, who is helping to plan a student walkout from classes at Harvard University, in Cambridge, Mass. He said more than 1,000 people have pledged to participate. Some plans for the first day or two of war are writ large, like paralyzing traffic with bicycles and cars and disrupting commerce in San Francisco's financial district. Others are small, like showing a single lit candle on a Web site of the United Church of Christ. Some are meant to be noisy, like a march in Portsmouth, N.H.,
[CTRL] Al-Qaida to Use Flumonia As BioWeapon Against America?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HAN28 19 Mar 2003 11:52 U.S. boy in Vietnam contracts mystery pnuemonia By Christina Toh-Pantin HANOI, March 19 (Reuters) - An American schoolboy in southern Vietnam has contracted a fast-spreading pneumonia that has killed at least 14 people, but he was not known to have been exposed to anyone else infected, health officials said on Wednesday. A Vietnamese nurse and a French doctor have died from the virus in Hanoi, termed an atypical pneumonia, after treating a U.S. businessman who was hospitalised in Vietnam's capital city following trips to Shanghai and Hong Kong. The American businessman died in Hong Kong on Thursday. Nearly 60 people have fallen ill in Vietnam from the virus, which is believed to have originated in southern China late last year. Most infections are in China, Hong Kong and Vietnam, but it is fast spreading to Singapore, Canada and Taiwan, with linked cases in Australia, Britain, Brunei, Canada, Spain and the United States. Most of the cases have been medical staff at hospitals or relatives of people who have fallen ill. The World Health Organisation said the boy, believed to be 11 years old, had travelled to the northern resort town of Sapa on a school trip before falling sick. U.S. ambassador Raymond Burghardt told a meeting of diplomats that the boy, who lives in Ho Chi Minh City, had also been in Hanoi but had no apparent link to any health care workers or other victims. He said doctors from the Centers for Disease Control who are helping with the crisis concluded he had symptoms that meets completely the profile of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). Pascale Brudon, a representative of the WHO in Hanoi, said: It's too early to have a definite conclusion that the illness was spreading beyond the medical worker community who had been directly infected. She also said doctors had not ruled out the virus being spread from animals to humans. However, Brudon stressed that the disease was not believed to be spread by casual contact. The early symptoms are similar to influenza, and include high fever and respiratory problems. http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=117art_id=qw1048070161267B215set_id=1 Frantic search for 'flumonia' cause continues March 19 2003 at 01:46PM Hong Kong - Scientists on Wednesday reported promising leads in the frantic search for the cause of a baffling respiratory illness as the death toll climbed and infections continued spreading in three continents. At least seven deaths directly attributed to Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) have been reported by health authorities over the past week, three in Hong Kong, and two each in Vietnam and Canada. Another two victims in Hong Kong have died after contracting SARS, but were also suffering from other problems, while seven fatalities in mainland China are under investigation as possible SARS cases. Singapore's ministry of health (MOH) said preliminary findings by experts at the Singapore General Hospital and the Defence Medical Research Intitute showed that the likely infective agent belongs to the paramyxovirus family. Spain has also reported its first suspected case of the disease This corroborates early investigation results by overseas centres in Germany and Hong Kong, the MOH said in a statement. More than 250 reported SARS infections have now been monitored by health authorities in Asia, Europe and North America over the past week. Over 300 similar cases from an earlier outbreak in China are still under study. A French doctor who treated the first case of SARS diagnosed in Vietnam died on Wednesday in Hanoi, the French embassy said. Jean-Paul Derosier, a 65-year-old anaesthetist, had been in critical condition for several days at the French Hospital in Hanoi. He had been in direct contact with a 48-year-old American who fell ill during a business trip to Hanoi and died in hospital last week in Hong Kong. A Vietnamese nurse who was also involved in the treatment died last weekend. 'No restrictions on travel to any destination are necessary' Hong Kong Health Secretary Yeoh Eng-kiong said on Wednesday that five people including the US businessman have died in the territory after they were stricken with SARS, and the number of infected people had risen to 145. Two of them died following complications that included heart and liver diseases and further tests needed to determine whether SARS was the main cause of death. Two Canadian family members in Toronto who had visited Asia have also died of SARS. Experts believe that five deaths out of 305 infections from an earlier outbreak in southern China which peaked last month were also caused by SARS, but further tests are being conducted to confirm this. In another incident, a man and his wife died in Beijing this month from atypical pneumonia but health officials in China could not
[CTRL] Fwd: FW: PM under siege after committing Australian troops to Iraq war
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- A resistance begins and the doors open to a breadth and depth of civil disobedience never seen in human history! Sincerely, -- Mike Ruppert From The Wilderness Publications -Original Message- From: Michael Leon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:07 PM To: mruppert Subject: PM under siege after committing Australian troops to Iraq war PM under siege after committing Australian troops to Iraq war Tuesday, 18-Mar-2003 6:00PM PST Story from AFP Copyright 2003 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) CANBERRA, March 19 (AFP) - Australian Prime Minister John Howard was forced to leave home by a back door Wednesday as anti-war protesters blocked the front gates of his official residence here. Up to 15 Greenpeace activists protesting the government's decision on Tuesday to commit troops to a US-led invasion of Iraq moved in around dawn, chaining themselves to the gates and to four-wheel drive vehicles blocking the entrances of the residence. They carried banners proclaiming Howard's war -- a bloody outrage and John Howard -- war criminal in a peak-hour protest that caused major traffic congestion on one of Canberra's major arterial roads. Howard, dogged in recent days by protestors wherever he goes, came face to face with the demonstrators as he left for his early morning walk. He challenged them when he returned, telling one: I'm entitled to my opinion, you're entitled to yours. Later the protesters prevented Howard leaving for nearby Parliament House by car, forcing him instead to use a pedestrian gate to reach a waiting car outside. Police persuaded the protesters to end their protest two and a half hours later and said they would not be arrested. Wearing blue UN berets, 10 of the protesters used bicycle locks to chain themselves underneath four-wheel drives mocked up to look like UN vehicles, and to security gates. Greenpeace spokesman Shane Rattenbury said the protesters were symbolically placing Howard under house arrest. The prime minister said yesterday not to have an argument with the Australian troops and to bring the beef to him, Rattenbury said. That's what we have done here, we've brought it here to the PM's house to deliver the message that Australians don't want this war in Iraq. It's not our war. It's immoral, illegal, and Australians shouldn't be there. The protesters said they faced no opposition as they began their action. But soon afterwards at least 20 police as well as official security guards and plain clothes security officers arrived to guard the compound, about 500 metres (1,650 feet) from Parliament House. jt/br Iraq-Australia-demo A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Marxist/Trotskyite NeoCons
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- From: Jimmy Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BATR] Recent Politics Defined - Why It Has Been Deadly to Have Neocons 'on our side' To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Dogs Watch FoxNews by Paul Gottfried This morning, when I turned on FoxNews for our three dogs, who seem to like the staccato sounds on Rupert Murdoch Central, I caught sight of the well-publicized visage of David Frum. Apparently Frum was being asked to comment on the Christian faith of George W. Bush, a spiritual disposition that had just received high grades from an Evangelical Republican who was particularly struck by the Prez's remarks about everyone having the potential for democracy. Frum, who was in agreement with the Evangelical, spoke about how effusively Bush's faith had come out in his speech before the American Enterprise Institute. Supposedly, someone who is about to bring democracy to the Middle East should be a man of strong Christian faith. As a cultural historian, I find all of this indescribably interesting. Why is a Jewish agnostic authorized to speak with pontifical authority on a conservative news channel about the Christian spiritual well-being of an American president? And why would anyone, particularly a conservative, believe that someone is a devout Christian because he intends to impose a facsimile of the current US regime upon countries in Asia with vastly different cultural and social traditions? Most important, what does this conversionary goal have to do with Christianity or with the constitutional understanding of limited republican government provided by the American Founding Fathers? Needless to say, the answer to all these rhetorical questions is: nothing at all. What has become the acid test for a lot of things, especially in the utterly misnamed conservative movement, is accepting and promoting a Trotskyist vision of permanent revolution under neoconservative auspices. One of the best treatments of this subject I've recently encountered is by a French scholar who teaches at the London School of Economics, Nicholas Guilhot; he delivered the study at the most recent plenary gathering of the French Political Science Association in Lille. What makes this paper, which a former student of mine sent from France, especially intriguing is that Guilhot is clearly on the Marxist Left and, moreover, apparently unfamiliar with my writings. Nonetheless, he arrives at identical conclusions about la matrice trotskiste that nurtured the neoconservative view of the American managerial state as an instrument of world revolution. Guilhot goes back to the contacts among the Russian Marxists who paved the way for the neoconservative moment. Surveying the dissident Marxist Max Schachtman and other members of the anti-Stalinist Left, which is the subject of a distinguished monograph by Alan Wald, and the leadership of the Young People Socialist League at City College, Guilhot treats these figures and anti-Stalinist Marxism generally as the architects of a distinctly neoconservative worldview. He is right to present both the Congress for Cultural Freedom and the work of S.M. Lipset as representing an inchoate neoconservatism. By the fifties the anti-Stalinist Left is depicting the working class as authoritarian and anti-Semitic, but at the same time continues to favor a global movement toward a scientifically managed, pluralistic society. This would be brought about, explains Lipset in 1963 in Political Man, by pushing other countries toward the American model, which he found the only morally acceptable one. What made the US exceptional was the acceptance by the middle class of economic redistribution and extensive public administration for progressive ends. Thus the reactionary
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] [Fwd: The Permanent Revolution]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- This article says Tony Blair was former chairman of the Fabian Society. From: Vermithrax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [patriotsonguard] The Permanent Revolution To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This illustrates the historical, real world application of the old Illuminati Protocols Vermithrax http://proliberty.com/observer/20030115.htm From the January 2003 Idaho Observer: -- The Permanent Revolution The article below illuminates another layer of the intrigue blanketing our world. It offers a new twist in our understanding that seems to feel right. Hayfield's observations are consistent with the message contained in the Report from Iron Mountain (1962) -- that the common man is to be manipulated, harvested like row crops or killed as weeds at the discretion of global elites. Hayfield is right. Failure to consider the concept of the Permanent Revolution is to hold an incorrect image of the world and to misunderstand where the global elite intend to take the 6 billion people of planet Earth. by Terry Hayfield The Permanent Revolution is the most over looked process of modern, Western, industrial society's history. This revolution is an ongoing evolution of Capitalism into Socialism, which will eventually lead to the implementation of a self-regulating, classless society. In essence Capitalism, Socialism and Communism are integeral parts of the same perpetual procedure. A true Communism has yet to exist! It is only now in its initial stages of implementation. Countless millions of Americans, regardless of their position on the political spectrum, most surely would dispute this truth. This is, unfortunately, totally understandable. In order to correct this societal misunderstanding, a more precise and lengthy definition of the Permanent Revolution is required. The Permanent Revolution is the continual process of War, Revolution, and Terror intended to facilitate the global proliferation of a specific and unified Anglo/British Capitalism based on the precepts of the Fabian Society (founded in the mid 1880s). The objective is the creation of a Free Market Economy (Economic Democracy) based on international Free Trade through the United Nation's General Agreements on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) and its evolutionary offspring the World Trade Organization (WTO). International Free Trade requires the explicit destruction of National Sovereignty. The final goal is the perfection of a highly organized and technologically advanced Capitalism. This Capitalism will only reach its perfection when it has evolved into Socialism. Once this perfected Corporate Socialism dominates all global economic activity then it will be possible to create the economic, political, social and moral conditions to make possible the emergence of a self-regulating, classless society directed by a Dictatorship over the Proletariat. The perfection of Capitalism rests on one very important factor. Capitalism has one very large problem known as The Flaw of Capitalism (overproduction and under-consumption). In order for Capitalism to reach its Socialist perfection Capitalist production must equal society's ability to consume. Also, when the gap between production and consumption gets too wide, Capitalism falls into severe crisis and this results in Capitalism having to resort to some form of Fascism (i.e. Homeland Security) in order to remain in control of the process of Capitalist perfection. One very large impediment to this constant pursuit of Capitalist perfection is the concept of National Sovereignty. The controller of the
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] THE WAR ON DRUGS is the US wining??
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Record Afghan poppy crop forecast Shahid Malik BBC correspondent in Lahore Afghanistan is heading for a record opium poppy crop this summer, officials in neighbouring Pakistan say. The forecast, made at a media briefing on Tuesday, echoes the concern of the UN International Narcotics Control Board. It says that opium cultivation in Afghanistan - used in heroin and other drugs - is now as widespread as in the 1990s. Brigadier Ashfaq-ur-Rasheed Khan, of Pakistan's Anti-Narcotics Force, expressed concern at the gravity of the situation. He said the growth of opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan this year was likely to have serious implications for drug enforcement efforts in Pakistan. Concern The brigadier said the projected figure for the current crop was in excess of 4,000 tonnes. Under the Taleban, the crop had sunk to an all-time low of less than 200 tonnes in 2001. Last month, the United Nations International Narcotics Control Board voiced its concern over the manifold increase in poppy cultivation last year, despite two decrees by Afghan President Hamid Karzai banning it. The board said 3,400 tonnes were cultivated in 2002, similar to cultivation levels in the mid-1990s. Brigadier Khan said the Taleban had effectively banned opium cultivation. But he said President Karzai's government had other priorities and was not in control of regions outside the capital, Kabul. He said this was a situation apparently being exploited by Afghan tribes. According to some projections, there could now be more than six million drug addicts in Pakistan, Brigadier Khan said. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/2861793.stm Published: 2003/03/18 17:29:49 © BBC MMIII __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/vseplB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] September 11 - Islamic Jihad or another Northwoods? ( Updated Repost )
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Tim, I read with great interest and approval your analysis of the 9/11 attacks. It is well researched and equally well written. I think you're on the mark when you suggest Islamic cells could have been infiltrated byCIA/ISI provocateurs who instigated the plot. It was a resurrection of Project Bojinka originally hatched by an Islamic cell in 1995 in the Philippines. However your anthrax scenario is a bit more problematic. I think this is primarily due to your reliance on Barbara Hatch Rosenburg who, IMHO, has been a CIA shill most of her professional life. While she is correct that it was an inside job (the weaponized Ames strain could only have come from the U.S.) she is blaming the FBI and military at Ft. Detrick to deflect attention away from the CIA. It is not true that Ft. Detrick is the only, or even the main source of weaponized (aerosolized) anthrax.That is done atDept. of Energy laboratory at the army's Dugway, Utah Proving Grounds. While the DOE owns the lab, it is operated by Battelle Memorial Institute (BMI). Battelle operates several other top secret weapons labs for the DOE and has close ties to the CIA. America's two top experts in weaponized anthrax are William Patrick and Ken Alibek. Patrick holds five secret patents on the weaponizing process and taught the scientists at Dugway how to do it. Alibek is the Americanized name ofa Soviet "defector" who was number two man in the USSR biological and chemical warfare agency. Both are past employees of BMI and currently are consultants to the CIA. This is not to say that the FBI is not involved in the cover-up. But the evidence points to the CIA as the perpetrator notwithstanding Barbara Hatch Rosenburg. Regards, Jim - Original Message - From: tim_howells_1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:40 AM Subject: [cia-drugs] September 11 - Islamic Jihad or another Northwoods? ( Updated Repost ) SEPTEMBER 11, ISLAMIC JIHAD OR ANOTHER NORTHWOODS? ( Updated Repost ) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] N I N E L I F E - A N D - D E A TH Q U E S T I O N S
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Life and death questions: Is Bush dumb or evil? Mistaken or lying? Anti-terrorism or terrorism user? Defender or attacker? For Americans or out to finish them? 9-11 targetor 9-11 perpetrator? President or psy-op? Misguided friend or mortal enemy? --- If you have answered correctly and if you value the power of truthfulness in human affairs - - then the emphasis of the Anti-War Movement must shift from insisting upon cessation of hostility operations to insistence that those responsible for the 9-11 mass-murder frameup must be stopped by all mankind as the highest priority of human business. == Preguntas de la vida y de la muerte: ¿EsBush mudo o malvado? ¿Equivocado o mentira? ¿Contra-terrorismo o un usuario del terrorismo? ¿Defensor o atacante? ¿Para los americanos o hacia fuera acabarlos? ¿9-11 blanco o perpetrator 9-11? ¿Presidente o psy-de Op. Sys.? ¿Amigo equivocado o enemigo mortal? Si usted ha contestado correctamente y si usted valora la energía de la verdad en asuntos humanos - - entonces el énfasis del movimiento pacifista debe cambiar de puesto de insistir sobre la cesación de las operaciones de la hostilidad a la insistencia que ésos responsables del 9-11 masa-asesinan el frameup se deben parar por toda la humanidad como la prioridad más alta del negocio humano. = Questions de la vie et de la mort: Bushest-il sourd-muet ou mauvais? Erroné ou mensonge? Utilisateur d'Anti-terrorisme ou de terrorisme? Défenseur ou attaquant? Pour des Américains ou les finir dehors? 9-11 cible ou perpetrator 9-11? Président ou psy-op? Ami mal orienté ou ennemi mortel? Si vous avez répondu correctement et si vous évaluez la puissance de l'exactitude dans des affaires humaines - - puis l'emphase du mouvement pacifiste doit décaler d'exiger sur le cessation des opérations d'hostilité à l'insistance que ceux responsables du 9-11 masse-assassinent le frameup doivent être arrêtées par toute l'humanité comme priorité la plus élevée des affaires humaines. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Commentary: Illogical Reasoning of a War Against Iraq
-Caveat Lector- http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/transcripts/2003/mar/030313.freundlich.html MICHELE NORRIS, host: The deliberations at the UN over possible military action in Iraq have featured thousands of pages of documents and hours and hours of debate, not to mention all the press conferences, Op-Ed articles and pure speculation that have filled the airwaves in the last few months. But even after all of that evidence and discussion, commentator Peter Freundlich still wants to express the trouble he's having trying to make sense of the argument to go to war. PETER FREUNDLICH: All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor-bound to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they define it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is a good thing that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, `We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace,' but not amusing for someone who actually commands an army to say that. As a collector of laughable arguments, I'd be enjoying all this were it not for the fact that I know--we all know--that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak, circular reasoning accident. NORRIS: Peter Freundlich is a freelance journalist in New York. Tomorrow, we will hear a different view about the appropriate use of military force. Copyright ©2003 National Public Radio®. All rights reserved. No quotes from the materials contained herein may be used in any media without attribution to National Public Radio. This transcript may not be reproduced in whole or in part without prior written permission. For further information, please contact NPR's Permissions Coordinator at (202) 513-2000. This transcript was created by a contractor for NPR, and NPR has not verified its accuracy. For all NPR programs, the broadcast audio should be considered the authoritative version. To purchase an audiotape of this piece, please order online or call 1-877-NPR-TEXT. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om 2">
[CTRL] Fwd: Brief History of Middle East Conquest
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- PRETHE HOFFMAN WIRE Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Michael A. Hoffman II, Editor A HREF= http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html/A /PRE For Americans with a Short Attention Span: A Brief History of Middle East Conquest Editor's Note: Bush speaks of befriending the Iraqi people, but Arabs know that the U.S. sponsors and finances the Israeli Army, which has destroyed the infrastructure of Lebanon and Palestine. Bill Clinton's ally Ehud Barak bombed Lebanon's main power generating station. Bush's ally Sharon ordered the destruction of three of the four fresh-water wells of Rafah, while Sharon uses armored bulldozers to clear out entire Palestinian neighborhoods (Los Angeles Times, March 18, 2003). In Lebanon in 1982, Sharon, in the words of the Wall Street Journal, killed thousands of civilians using U.S. weapons and money. No sane Arab believes Bush has their best interests at heart; only Americans, with their scant knowledge of history and notoriously short attention span, accept Bush's drivel at face value. Peoples of Egypt, you will be told that I have come to destroy your religion. Do not believe it! Reply that I have come to restore your rights! -Napoleon Bonaparte, 1798. Napoleon bombarded Cairo. His troops stormed the city, killing 3,000. Our armies do not come into your cities and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as liberators. Your wealth has been stripped of you by unjust men ...The people of Baghdad shall flourish under institutions which are in consonance with their sacred laws...The Arab race may rise once more to greatness! -Gen. F.S. Maude, commander of British forces in Iraq, 1917. British troops killed between 6,000 and 10,000 Iraqis in 1920. Many Iraqis can hear me tonight in a translated radio broadcast. And I have a message for them. If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. As our coalition takes away their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need. We will tear down the apparatus of terror. And we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free. -George W. Bush, Purim Eve, 5763 (March 17, 2003). Past Mideast Invasions Faced Unexpected Perils by High Pope and Peter Waldman Wall Street Journal, March 19, 2003, pp A1 and A10 FOR TWO CENTURIES, FOREIGN POWERS HAVE BEEN CONQUERING MIDEAST LANDS for their own purposes, promising to uplift Arab societies along the way. Sometimes they have modernized cities, taught new ideas and brought technologies. But in nearly every incursion, both sides have endured a raft of unintended consequences. From Napoleon's drive into Egypt through Britain's rule of Iraq in the 1920s to Israel's march into Lebanon in 1982, Middle East nations have tempted conquerors only to send them reeling. Little wonder that even many Arabs who revile Saddam Hussein view the prospect of a U.S.-led invasion of Iraq with trepidation. Unless the Americans are far more subtle than they've ever had the capacity to be, and more subtle than the [colonial] British, it's going to end in tears, predicts Faisal Istrabadi, an Iraqi-born lawyer in Michigan who has worked with the State Department on plans to rebuild Iraq's judiciary. The honeymoon will be very brief. Again and again, Westerners have moved into the Mideast with confidence that they can impose freedom and modernity through military force. Along the way they have miscalculated support for their invasions, both internationally and in the lands they occupy. They have
[CTRL] Is my ISP blocking prisonplanet.com?
-Caveat Lector- I haven't been able to get there for about a week. Anyone else with this problem? A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Al-Qaida to Use Flumonia As BioWeapon Against America?
-Caveat Lector- Oh yeah, I'm sure it's the Al-Qaida. Prudy A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [JBirch] Where's the outrage?? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:04:29 -0500 (EST) From: Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBirch] Where's the outrage?? Recall the mass coverage of the Lott comment? Where's the outrage over: - On March 1, an Ohio Congresswoman made comments in an interview with a local newspaper that, within twenty-four hours of publication, caused a nationwide uproar. Marcy Kaptur, a Democrat from Ohio's 9th House District, a vocal opponent of a war with Iraq, compared Osama bin Laden with America's Founding Fathers, and went on to call terrorism acts of sacred piety. Since her remarks were first widely publicized, the Democratic contingent in Washington has been silent, and Ms. Kaptur herself has not apologized or tried to explain herself but has said merely that Republicans are taking her words out of context. Ms. Kaptur has not said that she was misquoted in The Toledo Blade, so it seems reasonable to assume that statements credited to her there represent her actual comments. Among them were these words: One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown. - Read the whole article at http://www.sierratimes.com/03/03/18/ladyliberty.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/A0NplB/TM -~- The opinions expressed on this forum are those of the authors of the articles posted. The John Birch Society has no responsibility for anything that is posted on this forum. The OFFICIAL John Birch Society web page is a www.jbs.org Look alike clone pages, run by others, violate JBS policy. Visit The New American at www.thenewamerican.com The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1729-1797 Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who still have swords. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US Spying on It's Allies: Phone bugs found at EU-HQ
-Caveat Lector- It should have passed everyone's mind that like Israel, the U.S. no longer has allies. Prudy A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Maid and the Ogre
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/19/2003 1:16:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Her life was a wasted life, though Im sure the Palestinans who talk suckers into being mass murders and wasting their lives dont want us to look at this. Part of the methods of manipulation are mind control tactics used to keep Arafat and the oil barons in Saudi Arabia in big bucks. Why I'm sure the young man who obviously enjoyed killing her and his fellow bulldozer drivers weren't talked into their work by Palestinians, although it's nice to have so many people handy to turn into victims. When they finally get all the Palestinians dead, it's going to be pretty boring for these guys who so enjoy these activities. Wonder what they'll do for fun then. Prudy A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Maid and the Ogre
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/18/2003 11:45:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Source on this one Prudy? Or for you is a valid source any individual who can write what you want to hear? -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prudy L Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Maid and the Ogre In a message dated 3/17/2003 6:15:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mi dam umi eza Nakim lanu geza out of blood and sweat we shall breed a new victorious and cruel race, sang the Zionists. With murder of Rachel Corrie the experiment came to its fruition. The cruel race is not a dream anymore, it is a new geopolitical reality. A few months ago, a Jewish bulldozer driver shared with the world his experiences [i] of razing Jenin: "I had no mercy for anybody. I would erase anyone with the D-9, and I have demolished plenty. I wanted to destroy everything. I begged the officers, over the radio, to let me knock it all down; from top to bottom. To level everything. When I was told to bring down a house, I took the opportunity to bring down some more houses. For three days, I just destroyed and destroyed. The whole area. I wanted to get to the other houses. To get as many as possible. I didn't see, with my own eyes, people dying under the blade of the D-9. But if there were any, I wouldn't care at all. If you knocked down a house, you buried 40 or 50 people. If I am sorry for anything, it is for not tearing the whole camp down. I had lots of satisfaction in Jenin, lots of satisfaction. No one expressed any reservations against doing it. Who would dare speak? If anyone would as much as open his mouth, I would have buried him under the D-9. http://www.thetruthseekeer.co.uk/article,asp?ID=592 Prudy A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Red Alert would end some personal freedoms
-Caveat Lector- http://www.c-n.com/gsbr/story/0,21421,706996,00.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] THE WAR ON DRUGS is the US wining??
-Caveat Lector- 3/19/2003 9:23:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] THE WAR ON DRUGS is the US wining?? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's one of those progressive battles. First you have to open up the pipeline to satisfy demand (Kosovaria) then you have to open up the production centres (Afghanistania) ... without a firm market and corresponding distribution network (K), there's no reason to reestablish the means and locale of production. In both instances, they've provided the protection racket (KFOR et al) as well (we don't ignore the fact that both regions are their version of the Wild, Wild West (without the Secret Service agents and their fancy trains)('course, who knows what Artemis was putting into his system to justify that fancy decor)). Then, in spite of some sort of national emergency having to do with terrorism, you leave the Couthern border to the U.S. W i D e open so there will be adequate access to secure the homeland end point users. MEG (My Educated Guess) A:E:R A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is Iran Next?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2297.htm Is Iran Next? This Senate Resolution, Suggests It May Be: Jump Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. (Introduced in Senate) SRES 82 IS 108th CONGRESS 1st Session S. RES. 82 Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES March 12, 2003 Mr. BROWNBACK (for himself, Mr. WYDEN, Mr. COLEMAN, Mr. CORNYN, Mr. CAMPBELL, and Mr. KYL) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations RESOLUTION Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. Whereas the people of the United States respect the Iranian people and value the contributions that Iran's culture has made to world civilization for over 3 millennia; Whereas the Iranian people aspire to democracy, civil, political, and religious rights, and the rule of law, as evidenced by increasingly frequent antigovernment and anti-Khatami demonstrations within Iran and by statements of numerous Iranian expatriates and dissidents; Whereas Iran is an ideological dictatorship presided over by an unelected Supreme Leader with limitless veto power, an unelected Expediency Council and Council of Guardians capable of eviscerating any reforms, and a President elected only after the aforementioned disqualified 234 other candidates for being too liberal, reformist, or secular; Whereas the Iranian Government has been developing a uranium enrichment program that by 2005 is expected to be capable of producing several nuclear weapons each year, which would further threaten nations in the region and around the world; Whereas the United States recognizes the Iranian peoples' concerns that President Muhammad Khatami's rhetoric has not been matched by his actions; Whereas President Khatami clearly lacks the ability and inclination to change the behavior of the State of Iran either toward the vast majority of Iranians who seek freedom or toward the international community; Whereas political repression, newspaper censorship, corruption, vigilante intimidation, arbitrary imprisonment of students, and public executions have increased since President Khatami's inauguration in 1997; Whereas men and women are not equal under the laws of Iran and women are legally deprived of their basic rights; Whereas the Iranian Government shipped 50 tons of sophisticated weaponry to the Palestinian Authority despite Chairman Arafat's cease-fire agreement, consistently seeks to undermine the Middle East peace process, provides safe- haven to al-Qa'ida and Taliban terrorists, allows transit of arms for guerrillas seeking to undermine our ally Turkey, provides transit of terrorists seeking to destabilize the United States-protected safe-haven in Iraq, and develops weapons of mass destruction; Whereas since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and despite rhetorical protestations to the contrary, the Government of Iran has actively and repeatedly sought to undermine the United States war on terror; Whereas there is a broad-based movement for change in Iran that represents all sectors of Iranian society, including youth, women, student bodies, military personnel, and even religious figures, that is pro- democratic, believes in secular government, and is yearning to live in freedom; Whereas following the tragedies of September 11, 2001, tens of thousands of Iranians filled the streets spontaneously and in solidarity with the United States and the victims of the terrorist attacks; and Whereas the people of Iran deserve the support of the American people: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that-- (1) legitimizing the regime in Iran stifles the growth of the genuine democratic forces in Iran and does not serve the national security interest of the United States; (2) positive gestures of the United States toward Iran should be directed toward the people of Iran, and not political figures whose survival depends upon preservation of the current regime; and (3) it should be the policy of the United States to seek a genuine democratic government in Iran that will restore freedom to the Iranian people, abandon terrorism, and live in peace and security with the international community. Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and
Re: [CTRL] Red Alert would end some personal freedoms
-Caveat Lector- For you maybe. I'll enforce my liberties at gun point. Keep the peace, keep your piece! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Draft as Deterrent
-Caveat Lector- 03-18-2003 http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks% 20Target%2edbcommand=viewoneop=tid=6rnd=886.53564453125 Hack's Target: The Draft as Deterrent By David H. Hackworth If today's U.S. armed forces could count draftee airmen, sailors, soldiers and Marines among those who will soon be doing the dying during our second go at Saddam Hussein, you can bet good money that more American parents and grandparents would have been asking hard questions of their Washington pols long before the drumbeat of war became headline news. Important questions such as: Is this war really necessary? What national security threat does Iraq pose to the United States? Why can't we with a united world behind us disarm Iraq without war? Why the unilateral intervention? What are the projected costs and casualties, and is there an exit plan? But at long last, the realities of war have been brought home by massive global peace marches, gas prices spiraling into the stratosphere, the economy tanking alongside the Titanic and tens of thousands of reserve soldiers from every city in this great land neighbors, friends and workmates of the formerly disconnected being called to arms. Finally, millions of Americans are listening more carefully to a chorus of world leaders and a few gutsy national politicians righteously concerned about the consequences of the shootout in the desert. Except that with 230,000 of our warriors already staring down Saddam's cannons, this new consciousness might have come too late. I believe it's been far too easy for the vast majority of Americans to pay little or no attention to George W. Bush's march to war, because most folks pride and joy aren't prime candidates for body bags. And few average citizens have ongoing personal contact with a uniformed defender from the 1 million-plus regular warriors who make up our All-Volunteer Force (AVF). To them, our warriors are just uniforms they occasionally see floating around at airports or as background color in TV war dispatches. Most recruits in the AVF come from non-vocal, working-class families a disproportionate number from the poor and from minority groups while more privileged Americans are conspicuous by their absence. For example, the Congress that voted overwhelmingly for the military solution against Iraq includes only one member with a son whos an enlisted grunt. The rest, like the majority of Americans since the draft went south, no longer share directly in the sacrifice that comes with sending our youth to face the dragon. The poor join up because the job prospects on the outside are marginal. By going into the military, they learn a skill, gain the benefits of the GI Bill and get a better shot at the American dream. Meanwhile, teens from families with political punch read cash and/or clout are safely bunkered down at universities out of harms way. And when asked: Should we do Iraq? their answer is often a roaring Yes! But ask those same young aristo- hawks: Will you go and fight? and rarely does a Tommy Hilfiger-clad arm shoot up. When it comes to blood sports, they don't need to be taught that the spectators have it cushier than the gladiators. Just as if all Americans knew their kids would likely serve dead-center on the killing fields, there'd be far sharper focus on how our politicians are voting and a lot more calls for caution and careful consideration before we got out there in the sand and slapped leather. For sure, the draft would give us 20/20 vigilance. As the father of a reservist now in Kuwait recently said: I suspect once folks start thinking about their kids standing in the line of fire, they'll make a whole bunch of noise. When that happens, hopefully this insanity will stop. History has taught us that draftees serve this country well. Not only are they natural- born whistle-blowers who keep both the war-makers and the brass honest, but because their service keeps all our citizens more closely involved and invested, they are our bottom-line deterrent to war. Service in our country's ranks used to be widely accepted as the price of citizenship. So why not bring back the draft? Since so many of our leaders seem to be currently suffering from Empiritis, we'd all probably be better protected from this country- destroying disease if every American family shared the burden for defending our way of life. Http://www.hackworth.com is the address of David Hackworth's home page. Sign in for the free weekly Defending America column at his Web site. Send mail to P.O. Box 11179, Greenwich, CT 06831. 2003 David H. Hackworth. Forwarded for your information. The text and intent of the article have to stand on their own merits. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only.
[CTRL] Politicians Lie for War ? (May be a repost)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.truthaboutwar.org/home.shtml Do our politicians ever lie to justify war? It's easy to believe politicians in other countries lie to justify their wars. And it's even easy to believe a U.S. President would do soas long as he's a member of another party! But if we expect other people to question the claims of their leaders, then we must do the same with ours. We will show that our politicians have lied to justify war, and that these lies endanger the American people. A History of Lies We want to trust our President. And many of us were impressed by Colin Powell's presentation to the UN Security Council. But anyone can convince us of anything, if they don't share all the evidence. You won't hear all the evidence about the Iraq conflict from our politicians, or from most of the ambulance chasing media. But you can find it in history books, in investigative journalism, and even in government reports that rarely see the light of day. We have distilled much of this information for you here. Historians now know that many of our past conflicts were based on lies. Sadly, the full list of these lies would fill many pages covering conflicts over several decades, and spanning every part of the globe. Some of these past lies are exposed here, but please realize that we usually don't learn the whole truth about our wars until many years later, when the damage is already done. Could this be happening now? Our answer is yes. But this time we don't have to wait for the future history of Gulf War II to be written to know that its justifications are based on a thin tissue of political lies. We can know this now because history is repeating itself. Many of the leaders who gave us Gulf War I now want to start Gulf War II. So we can judge their credibility now by examining what they did then. The past actions of the Bush Presidents, and their family retainers like Cheney, Powell, and others, expose the lies they are telling today. But the best political lies are usually wrapped in layers of truth, the better to deceive, and so it is in this case. It's true that Hussein is a brutal dictator, but that isn't why Bush wants to remove him. The whole truth is that our politicians have encouraged Hussein's brutality, thus showing that they have no quarrel with his behavior in principle. Read the evidence for this claim by clicking here. It's true that Hussein has violated UN resolutions, but that isn't why Bush wants to remove him. The whole truth is that our own politicians have no real respect for international law, and have encouraged Hussein to violate these laws in the past. Read the evidence for this claim by clicking here. It's probably true that Hussein has some UN prohibited weapons, but that isn't why Bush wants to remove him. The whole truth is that our politicians have aided Hussein in acquiring these weapons, and encouraged him in their use. Read the evidence for this claim by clicking here. It's true that Hussein has invaded his neighbors, but that isn't why Bush wants to remove him. The whole truth is that our politicians encouraged Hussein's first invasion, and were complicit in his second. See Claim #4, Claim #5, and The truth about Hussein's brutality. But not all government lies are wrapped in layers of partial truthsome are simply lies, unvarnished by any cover of truth. We're told that a war on Iraq is the next logical step in the war on terrorism, but it isn't true. Regime change was our government's policy long before 9-11. Our politicians have exploited the 9-11 murders as a justification for their pre- existing desire, without regard to the true needs of the war on terror. See Claim #7. We're told that our past foreign interventions were no part of the cause of the 9-11 murders, or of terrorism in general, but it isn't true. Even the Pentagon's own experts think there's a link between terrorism and our foreign policy. Read the evidence for this claim by clicking here. We're told that war on Iraq is the only way to protect America, but it isn't true. In reality, invading Iraq will increase the risk we face. And there's a time-tested alternative to pre- emptive war that will make us safer. Read the evidence for this claim by clicking here. Finally, in addition to giving you the evidence against the war on Iraq, this site also gives you tools to share the truth with your fellow citizens. As you read this website you'll be struck by how little of this information has been covered by the electronic media, despite its obsessive 24/7 coverage. So what can we do to get the facts out? Our approach is to broadcast radio ads telling part of the story, and that will bring people to this site to learn more. We need your financial help to broadcast these ads to as many people as possible. This is very urgent. The war could start at any minute. To contribute to our radio ad campaign, click here. Second, you can use our online form to email your friends about this site. Third,
[CTRL] PSYCHEDELIC REPUBLICANS: POLITICAL PARODY TRADING CARDS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.psychedelicrepublicans.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: Quaker Culture of Life (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:58:56 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: Quaker Culture of Life On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March 14, 2003, Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life Gazette, as a tabloid in the 1980's, used the expressions Culture of Life and Culture of Death before the script writers of pope and president picked up on them. Suppose the Quakers applied to the White House for a grant under faith-based public works to design and build a model city plus surroundings, just one exemplification of a Culture of Life. What would it be like? FWP _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Franklin, Quakers comprise much less than one one-thousandth of the population of the USA. Hi John: I just checked the World Almanac (1986) and it gives a total of only 108,000 in the US. Nevertheless, it takes only one to answer my question as the 1989 World Almanac says The essence of their faith is that every individual has the power of direct communication with God who will guide him into the ways of truth (p.446). The only Quaker I have met in person is Lyndon Larouche, Jr. I went into his jail in Washington, DC, and met with him in the context of my Life Gazette journalism, ca. 1990. I wondered if he was indeed a political prisoner as he claimed to be or simply the leader of an organization which an FBI agent summed up in an interview as, in a word, bogus. But since that time I have come to wonder if modern religion is not so fundamentally flawed and corrupt that bogus applies to all denominations. Should we have a Canadian counterpart to your RICO laws and should we target bogus churchianity as a category of racketeering which is a particular menace to the public? Larouche has published a book with the title of Christian Economics and I had a letter published in his newspaper, the New Federalist, in 1994 which asked what just one Christian City plus surroundings would be like. I am still awaiting an answer. Apparently, the time which Larouche spent in jail did not reform him. But, in fairness, no other religious denomination has answered my persistent question either. It is rank hypocrisy that various religions send missionaries into thousands of pagan cultures where they transform them radically, yet they cannot or will not describe their own culture. Who will send a missionary into deepest, darkest Vancouver to answer my question? 'Model (planned) cities' already exist -- one of them is Columbia, Maryland. There are global precedents like Jubail, Saudi Arabia, New Bombay, India and the village of PREVI, Peru, which was designed and built under UN auspices in the 1970's as a future village for the benefit of all of humanity. The team of 13 architects from 13 countries was led by Peter Land, now at Illinois Institute of Technology (say hello for me if you contact him). Peter also stayed on as general contractor for PREVI. I can tell you right now that Quakers do not want to design and build model-anythings. It would be more accurate to say that we want to transform everything. However, it would also be accurate to say that we are not utopian. Utopian is a red herring as it has unfortunate connotations. The question has to do with how shall we then live as that question was asked in the work of the Christian writer Francis Sheaffer. That is also the essence of Zionism as I understand it, to link this with the CERJ Zionism thread. Even if you call your city secular, it must have some kind of value system as its ideological underpinning. Charles Correa was an architect on Peter Land's team. He was also chief architect for New Bombay (Navi Mumbai). In his book, The New Landscape, Correa illustrates a city plan from Ancient India with the mandala (religious symbol) which was its ideological foundation. Figure it out. OK, if you transform everything and we have a city in which we do all for the glory of God (I Cor.) or pray without ceasing, then our entire way of life is a service to God which is the summarization of the book of Ecclesiastes. Now a City (Culture of Life) in service to God rather than the vanity of man would be very much in keeping with a Canada which, by Constitution is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law. Or, as a motto at Harvard Law School says, NON SUB HOMINE SED SUB DEO ET LEGE. We are not ruled by men but by God and the rule of law. This City of Life could be called by many names. When the pope was in Toronto recently, he called for the building of a City of God. Maybe Quakers would like to call it a City of Truth or a City of Peace. I think, though, that this message may point to an unhealthy dynamic o f people waiting around for The Quaker to say something. I am still waiting for
[CTRL] IRAQ VERSUS THE NEW WORLD ORDER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shpa031903.shtml IRAQ VERSUS THE NEW WORLD ORDER THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR THE STATUS QUO By: Max Shpak As is well-known to all who follow world politics, the term "New World Order" gained common currency following Americas victory over Iraq in the first Gulf War. Gloating triumphantly over the smashing of Baghdad, in his speech of March 6, 1991, then-President George H.W. Bush proclaimed, Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations. These words more or less set, or at the very least reflected, an ideological and geopolitical agenda that has been steadily carving away the autonomy and right to internal self-determination of sovereign nations. Throughout the world, the sovereign nation-state is now being replaced by a vassal-state whose economic and political life is to be determined by a cabal of transnational corporations, currency speculators, and above all a mythical "International Community" ever vigilant for "human rights violations" which set the pretext for invasion and destruction by well-armed acronyms such as the UN and NATO. Saddam Husseins Iraq was to be merely the beginning, for after 1991 the apparatchiks of the New World Order found numerous other whipping boys in the form of omnipresent "Hitlers of the month" to destroy. Of course, every such destruction campaign and the Quisling hegemony which followed was inevitably accompanied by hypocritical references to meaningless but noble-sounding phrases such as "freedom and respect for human rights," or, in more recent incarnations coming from the comopolitan Left, "global democracy." Today the same clique, under the stewardship of a younger, more aggressive, and more inept member of the Bush clan, is again poised to attack Iraq, with not so much as the slightest legitimate pretext. One will recall that even in 1990, the case for an attack on Iraq was by no means clear or well-established. Prior to the war, the first President Bush himself was more than happy to arm and support the man who weeks later became "worse than Hitler." Even on the eve of Iraqs invasion of Kuwait in the summer of 1990, then Iraqi foreign minister Tariq Aziz was assured by ambassador April Glaspie and the US State Department that the dispute over Kuwaiti theft of oil from what was indisputably Iraqi territory was "an Arab affair" on which the US has "no position," and that the Iraqis should resolve as they see fit. All of which set a trap for the Iraqis and a precedent for the first post-Cold War intervention by the US, and of course, the omnipresent "International Community." So on what grounds was that war effort sold to us? The more gullible were of course told that US troops were fighting for "freedom" and "democracy" in the Middle East. The fact that there was not much of either to be found in Kuwait mattered little to a television-addled populace who eagerly supported a war against a nation they couldnt even find on a map. The more sober were assured that the war would secure the US oil supply in the Middle East and give us lower prices at the pump. The fact of the matter is that A) the US only receives a small fraction of its oil from either Iraq or Kuwait to begin with, B) tales to the contrary notwithstanding, there is no evidence that Iraq would charge anything other than market or OPEC prices for the oil from the conquered territory of Kuwait and C) the embargo against Iraq following the war actually (for self-evident reasons) raised oil prices rather than lowered them. It seems that the only beneficiaries of Gulf War I were the elder Bushs approval ratings, the corrupt monarchy of Kuwait, and of course Israels sole regional superpower status in the Middle East. The public never seemed to ask whether the effort was worth the enormous expenditure of money and resources by the US, and as for the tens if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed as a consequence of the war effort and the subsequent sanctions, well, we had no less trustworthy and honorable a creature than Madeleine Albright to tell us a decade later that it was all well worth it. Hence, now that our special-ed President wishes to finish the job that the craftier old man began, the masters of deceit in our presses and television networks are again hard at work manufacturing approval from the trained seals among their readers and viewers. Fortunately, their job has been made easy by the events of 9/11, not due to any logical connection between Iraq and the attacks of course, but because a perverse game of guilt by
[CTRL] THE DUTY TO DISSENT
-Caveat Lector- http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sart031903.shtml THE DUTY TO DISSENT REAL MEANING - MY FELLOW AMERICANS By: SARTRE Now that President George W Bush has put into motion the dogs of war, what is the duty of a citizen during this time of conflict? Most will rally around the flag as a knee jerk flinch of social expectation. Others may reflect about the gravity of the moment and offer reserved support. Then there are those who march to a different drummer. They see their duty and purpose as adhering to the ideals upon which this nation was founded and claims to protect and defend. For those who seek the moral course, profound questions demand an answer. For well over sixty years the United States government has failed to honor their own supreme law. The requirement for Congress to vote on a declaration of war is a concept that every ordinary man and woman can understand. All the tortured rationalizations why it is not necessary to observe the explicit steps necessary to follow the supreme law of the land; cannot be substituted with artificial resolutions, spurious court rulings or manipulated United Nations Security Council pronouncements. Is this war to conquer and colonize Iraq legal? By any measure of historic authority, it is not. What we have is a coming cloud of combat that will be unleashed with no real idea what events will follow or what twists of counter reactions will ensue. Who among us can answer with confidence that the risk of an emasculated regional tyrant poses an imminent threat to our own country? Do you really think a believable case has been made to marshal the resources of the only superpower to obliterate an entire country just to remove one man and his entourage of goons? Ponder this question well, the future of your own family and nation depends upon your decision. If you are willing to trust your government leaders that they know best or are not lying to you, is that not a greater gamble then hoping that the rest of the world will just look away when the thunder of high explosives fill the desert air? Blowback should be expected for good reason. This war is unnecessary. Only a lamebrain would believe that genuine security of our country is enhanced with imperial adventures. If one is to be convinced that military might can eliminate or subdue various hostile factions that view the projection of arbitrary Yankee power, then you didnt learn anything from 911. In this environment of ant-intellectualism, even pure and passionate arguments to protect and preserve our nations purpose, go unheeded. Citizens that seek to be true to the original tenants that made America different from any other country in history, are ignored and ridiculed. Within this rancorous hysteria, one real ray of hope shines. The United Nations has been discredited for all times as a serious body for international affairs. The right of the United States to exit that society of globalists, should be self evident to any loyal American. Our duty and source for legitimate dissent is to restore the rightful sovereignty back to our elected officials and to formulate a foreign policy that has as its sole purpose to preserve the Liberty of every American citizen. We must hold them all accountable to the principle that the United States was not created to be the policeman for the world or to be an avenging angel. The foreign policy of internationalism has destroyed the essence of America and the prospects of continuous and endless interventionism has doomed any real chances for a restoration of a Republic. The entire political class invokes a nihilist culture that preaches altruism while enacting bondage and servitude. The War for Iraq has no more to do with liberation, than the oligarchy that rules in your name desires to guard your individual freedoms. Dissent is your duty to see through this facade of subterfuge that is called supporting the president. The best way to aid the troops, is to demand they stand down and be brought home. Public opinion does not move policy, since opinion is manufactured as the wag the dog script is acted out. When people come to accept that authentic Patriotism is realized when they practice dissent and civil disobedience, America will stand a chance of returning to national sanity. Any official that tells you - you must pay any price, bear every burden, and share all sacrifices - is betraying your birth right. The incontrovertible enemy is not a maniacal oppressor holding hostage his own people in an alien desert. No the irrefutable foe is the psychotic political culture that drives U.S. foreign policy. The public, once again has been duped into fighting the wrong war. President Bush said we did nothing to deserve this threat. What world is he living in? The people of American dont deserve to be put in peril, but who in their right mind can say that the U.S. government is not responsible for creating the strongman Saddam Hussein? Facts are dangerous for the lawless men
[CTRL] What would a Code Red Mean?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm Red alert? Stay home, await word Sunday, March 16, 2003 By TOM BALDWIN Gannett State Bureau TRENTON If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outside your home, the state's anti-terror czar says. "This state is on top of it," said Sid Caspersen, New Jersey's director of the office of counter-terrorism. Caspersen, a former FBI agent, was briefing reporters, alongside Gov. James E. McGreevey, on Thursday, when for the first time he disclosed the realities of how a red alert would shut the state down. A red alert would also tear away virtually all personal freedoms to move about and associate. "Red means all noncritical functions cease," Caspersen said. "Noncritical would be almost all businesses, except health-related." A red alert means there is a severe risk of terrorist attack, according to federal guidelines from the Department of Homeland Security. "The state will restrict transportation and access to critical locations," says the state's new brochure on dealing with terrorism. "You must adhere to the restrictions announced by authorities and prepare to evacuate, if instructed. Stay alert for emergency messages." Caspersen went further than the brochure. "The government agencies would run at a very low threshold," he said. "The state police and the emergency management people would take control over the highways. "You literally are staying home, is what happens, unless you are required to be out. No different than if you had a state of emergency with a snowstorm." A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: This Present Moment
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- (To Subscribe or Unsubscribe from The Prophets Conference list click on the links at the bottom of this newsletter.) Published on Friday, March 14, 2003 by CommonDreams.org This Present Moment: Living in Baghdad on the Eve of War by Ramzi Kysia The present moment is the only moment available to us, and it is the door to all moments. - Thich Nhat Hanh I am in Baghdad with the Iraq Peace Team, and we will stay here throughout any war. We will share the risks of the millions who live here, and do our best to be a voice for them to the world. Our risks are uncertain. Thousands here will surely die. But most Iraqis will survive, and so too, I hope, will I. A banner the government put up a few blocks from where we stay reads simply, Baghdad: Where the World Comes for Peace. It's meant as propaganda, I'm sure, flattering Saddam Hussein. But without knowing it, it states a simple truth: that the world must be present for peace. We must be present in Baghdad as in America - in Kashmir or Chechnya, the Great Lakes, Palestine and Colombia - where there is war, and rumors of war, we must be present to build peace. We are present. My country may arrest me as a traitor, or kill me during saturation bombing, or shoot me during an invasion. The Iraqis may arrest me as a spy, or cause or use my death for propaganda. Civil unrest and mob violence may claim me. I may be maimed. I may be killed. I am nervous. I am scared. I am hopeful. I am joyous, and I joyously delight in the wonder that is my life. I love being alive. I love the splendor of our world, the beauty of our bodies, and the miracle of our minds. I bless the world for making me, and I bless the world for taking me. I feed myself on the fellowship we inspirit, in standing one with another in this, this present moment, each moment unfolding to its own best time. Different things move different members of our team, but all of us are here out of deep concern for the suffering of our brothers and sisters in Iraq. 20 years of almost constant war, and 12 years of brutal sanctions, have killed hundreds of thousands of innocents in Iraq. We are here, today, because most of the world refused to be present, then. What more right do I as an American have to leave then all the people I've come to love in Iraq? An accident of birth that gives me a free pass throughout the world? All of us are here out of a deep commitment to nonviolence. Peace is not an abstract value that we should just quietly express a hope for. It takes work. It takes courage. It takes joy. Peace takes risks. War is catastrophe. It is terrorism on a truly, massive scale. It is the physical, political and spiritual devastation of entire peoples. War is the imposition of such massive, deadly violence so as to force the political solutions of one nation upon another. War is the antithesis of democracy and freedom. War is the most bloody, undemocratic, and violently repressive of all human institutions. War is catastrophe. Why choose catastrophe? Even the threat of war is devastating. On March 11th, when we visited a maternity hospital run by the Dominican sisters here in Baghdad, we found that eight new mothers that day had demanded to have their babies by Caesarean section - they didn't want to give birth during the war. Six others spontaneously aborted the same day. Is this the spirit of liberation? Don't ask me where I find the courage to be present in Iraq on the eve of war. 5 million people call Baghdad home. 24 million human beings live in Iraq. Instead, ask the politicians - on every side - where they find the nerve to put so many human beings at such terrible risk. We're here for these people, as we're here for the American
[CTRL] Fw: Homeland Defense Chief Speaks of New Responsibilities
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Press Service To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Homeland Defense Chief Speaks of New Responsibilities By Jim GaramoneAmerican Forces Press ServiceWASHINGTON, March 19, 2003 -- The symbolism couldn't be better: The newOffice of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense islocated in the section of the Pentagon destroyed in the terroristattack of Sept. 11, 2001.Paul McHale, the first assistant secretary of defense for homelanddefense, said it is appropriate that "we who work here are remindedevery day that brave men and women died in close proximity to where wework now, and our obligation is to ensure it doesn't happen again."A former congressman from Pennsylvania, McHale supervises all DoDhomeland defense activities. The main focus is oversight of the newU.S. Northern Command, which is responsible for North America and theCaribbean. He also supervises homeland defense activities involving theU.S. Pacific, Transportation and Strategic commands."We have supervisory responsibility with regard to the services, mostnotably in their force protection anti-terrorism activities," he saidduring an interview. "Basically, if DoD is doing it and it relates tohomeland defense, it's subject to the supervision of the new office."McHale stressed U.S. Northern Command's defense mission. "It's not justconsequence management," he said. "(The command) is involved verydirectly in the deterrence, prevention and defeat of an enemy attack."McHale said the Congress, the president and the defense secretary fullyexpect Northern Command to defeat enemy attacks, "not merely respond inthe event an enemy attack is tactically successful."While the focus of the U.S. military must be to defeat hostile nation-states, the "fundamental lesson of Sept. 11 is we now must redesign ourmilitary forces to effectively defeat terrorist threats, includingthreats of weapons of mass destruction," he said. "It is thatobligation which is paramount for NORTHCOM."According to McHale, the Defense Department will closely coordinatehomeland defense issues with the new Department of Homeland Security.McHale, a Marine reservist who was called up for the Persian Gulf War,said two categories of emergencies may require military support to acivilian agency. The first is when the military possesses a uniquecapability. A terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction is anexample of this, he said.The second is if a catastrophe overwhelms civilian agencies. "DoD isprepared to respond if so ordered by president," McHale said. He notedthe new emphasis on homeland security by local and state governmentsand the improving training and equipment local emergency respondershave received may mean less likelihood of service members being used inthis situation.He stressed that in the United States, the military is almost always ina supporting role. "DoD will operate in support of a lead federalagency, such as the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is partof the Department of Homeland Security," he said. "We would provideadditional expertise and manpower, if directed by the president orsecretary of defense."McHale said service secretaries will remain responsible for forceprotection of stateside bases for the time being. He said that analternative option would be to assign responsibility to NorthernCommand. "That is still under discussion," he said.His office will also take over as executive agent for civil support forDoD. Army Secretary Thomas White currently holds the position. McHalesaid he anticipates that the current special assistant for militarysupport will come to the new Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretaryof Defense for Civil Support.Since coming on board after his Senate confirmation in February, McHalehas been on the road meeting with various homeland defense leaderswithin the department. He said the people he has met, the efforts hehas seen and the careful thought that is going into the activityencourage him. And when he returns, he goes into a part of the Pentagonthat was once smoking, smoldering wreckage."I think what it says to our enemies is, if you attack, we will defeatyou; if, in the short term, your attack is successful, we will comeback and we'll come back stronger," he said. "That message ofdetermination and recommitment goes to the heart of the homelanddefense mission."___NOTE: This is a plain text version of a web page. If your e-mail programdid not properly format this information, you may view the story athttp://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/n03192003_200303195.htmlAny photos, graphics or other imagery included in the article may alsobe viewed at this web page.Visit the Department of Defense Celebrates Women's History MonthWeb site at http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/womenhistory03/for a comprehensive look at the past and
[CTRL] The president's real goal in Iraq
-Caveat Lector- http://64.176.94.191/article2319.htm The president's real goal in Iraq Bookman is the deputy editorial page editor of The Atlanta Journal- Constitution By JAY BOOKMAN The official story on Iraq has never made sense. The connection that the Bush administration has tried to draw between Iraq and al-Qaida has always seemed contrived and artificial. In fact, it was hard to believe that smart people in the Bush administration would start a major war based on such flimsy evidence. The pieces just didn't fit. Something else had to be going on; something was missing. In recent days, those missing pieces have finally begun to fall into place. As it turns out, this is not really about Iraq. It is not about weapons of mass destruction, or terrorism, or Saddam, or U.N. resolutions. This war, should it come, is intended to mark the official emergence of the United States as a full-fledged global empire, seizing sole responsibility and authority as planetary policeman. It would be the culmination of a plan 10 years or more in the making, carried out by those who believe the United States must seize the opportunity for global domination, even if it means becoming the "American imperialists" that our enemies always claimed we were. Once that is understood, other mysteries solve themselves. For example, why does the administration seem unconcerned about an exit strategy from Iraq once Saddam is toppled? Because we won't be leaving. Having conquered Iraq, the United States will create permanent military bases in that country from which to dominate the Middle East, including neighboring Iran. In an interview Friday, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld brushed aside that suggestion, noting that the United States does not covet other nations' territory. That may be true, but 57 years after World War II ended, we still have major bases in Germany and Japan. We will do the same in Iraq. And why has the administration dismissed the option of containing and deterring Iraq, as we had the Soviet Union for 45 years? Because even if it worked, containment and deterrence would not allow the expansion of American power. Besides, they are beneath us as an empire. Rome did not stoop to containment; it conquered. And so should we. Among the architects of this would-be American Empire are a group of brilliant and powerful people who now hold key positions in the Bush administration: They envision the creation and enforcement of what they call a worldwide "Pax Americana," or American peace. But so far, the American people have not appreciated the true extent of that ambition. Part of it's laid out in the National Security Strategy, a document in which each administration outlines its approach to defending the country. The Bush administration plan, released Sept. 20, marks a significant departure from previous approaches, a change that it attributes largely to the attacks of Sept. 11. To address the terrorism threat, the president's report lays out a newly aggressive military and foreign policy, embracing pre-emptive attack against perceived enemies. It speaks in blunt terms of what it calls "American internationalism," of ignoring international opinion if that suits U.S. interests. "The best defense is a good offense," the document asserts. It dismisses deterrence as a Cold War relic and instead talks of "convincing or compelling states to accept their sovereign responsibilities." In essence, it lays out a plan for permanent U.S. military and economic domination of every region on the globe, unfettered by international treaty or concern. And to make that plan a reality, it envisions a stark expansion of our global military presence. "The United States will require bases and stations within and beyond Western Europe and Northeast Asia," the document warns, "as well as temporary access arrangements for the long-distance deployment of U.S. troops." The report's repeated references to terrorism are misleading, however, because the approach of the new National Security Strategy was clearly not inspired by the events of Sept. 11. They can be found in much the same language in a report issued in September 2000 by the Project for the New American Century, a group of conservative interventionists outraged by the thought that the United States might be forfeiting its chance at a global empire. "At no time in history has the international security order been as conducive to American interests and ideals," the report said. stated two years ago. "The challenge of this coming century is to preserve and enhance this 'American peace.' " Familiar themes Overall, that 2000 report reads like a blueprint for current Bush defense policy. Most of what it advocates, the Bush administration has tried to accomplish. For example, the project report urged the repudiation of the anti-ballistic missile treaty and a commitment to a global missile defense system. The administration has taken that course.
[CTRL] Red Alert Blues
-Caveat Lector- http://64.176.94.191/article2325.htm Red Alert Blues It seems Tom Ridge didn't think it all the way through -- just like he didn't think through the bit about duct tape and plastic sheeting. Kurt Nimmo 03/19/03 It looks like Bush's Iraq attack will go down sooner before later and -- if we are to believe Tom Ridge and the Ministry of Homeland Security folks -- the Iraqis or maybe al-Qaeda will respond with terrorist attacks on America. In response, security officials have set up something called "Operation Liberty Shield." Operation Liberty Shield means the color-coded terror alert is now orange -- one step below red -- and new airspace regulations are in place, there is supposedly increased "vigilance" on the roadways, railroads, and at food installations and such. Barney Fife is on the lookout for Iraqi terrorists. In New Jersey, a former FBI man and current director of counter-terrorism, Sid Caspersen, says a red alert will restrict all personal freedom to move about and associate. "Red means all noncritical functions cease," Caspersen explained. "Noncritical would be almost all businesses, except health-related." In other words, you have to stay at home unless there's a dire medical emergency. "The state will restrict transportation and access to critical locations," Caspersen told Gannett News. "You must adhere to the restrictions announced by authorities and prepare to evacuate, if instructed. Stay alert for emergency messages... The government agencies would run at a very low threshold... You literally are staying home, is what happens, unless you are required to be out. No different than if you had a state of emergency with a snowstorm." Oh, so a Code Red terror alert would be something like a snowstorm. You'd get to stay home from work, the kids would be off school. In most cases, though, even during a bad snow storm, it's not illegal to go outside, the cops are not operating on a "low threshold," which I guess means they can shoot you for walking around in your front yard. It would be like an Americanized version of curfew in Gaza or the West Bank. You'd be forced to stay inside, hopefully with enough duct tape and plastic sheeting on hand. As for staying tuned to TV or radio for further instructions, I have a problem there. I own a TV, but it's not working -- and even if it did I don't have an antenna on the thing so it can't pick up a signal. I don't own a radio, either. But I do have a radio in the car, so I could go outside to the parking lot and wait for further instructions in my car. But wait a minute... if I left the apartment wouldn't I risk being arrested or even shot for breaking the curfew? This code-red stuff is complicated. It seems Tom Ridge didn't think it all the way through -- just like he didn't think through the bit about duct tape and plastic sheeting. I'm not the only one confused. For instance, in Crawford county, Ohio, school superintendent Sam Preston has a different take on a red alert than Sid Caspersen in New Jersey. "If the president puts out a general Red Alert for the country, it will be business as usual," Preston told the Telegraph-Forum. "Should some national crisis occur and we have forewarning, we will not open school that day. If something were to happen while our students are in school we will not have any early dismissals unless there is some imminent reason of a clear and present danger to the area." Wait a minute, I thought a red alert means you keep the kids home, you don't send them to school. Did I miss something, or is Mr. Preston attempting to get his district's kids all thrown in one of those internment camps we hear so much about? Tom Ridge needs to have the Ministry of Homeland Security print up a booklet or something -- maybe put up a web page or hire an ad agency to come up with some slick TV ads to clarify all of this. Meanwhile, in Erie, Pennsylvania, Nick Sleptzoff, director of the Erie County Emergency Management Agency, doesn't seem real clear on what to do if we go to the Big Red. "If it is something not directly affecting Erie County, we may not initiate those activities," he told the Erie Times-News. "We've got to use some common sense here. If it affects us, then we have to take the measures we put in place." He said the last time we had an orange alert it was no big deal. "It really didn't mean a whole lot because nothing was happening here," he said. Yeah, but Nick, don't you know there are al-Qaeda sleeper cells all over the place? Ashcroft and Ridge have said as much for months. We all have to be vigilant. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I hear it a lot these days. Be vigilant. Be aware of your surroundings. Report suspicious activities. Last time somebody called the cops about something suspicious here the cops arrived at a motel dressed in chemical suits. It turned out to be a cardboard box with some old rags stuffed in it. I'm not sure the cops in this small city would know how to
[CTRL] Daniel Pipes The Roots Of Conspiracy Denial
http://www.911-strike.com/conspiracy-denial.htm The Roots of Conspiracy Denial A review of Daniel Pipes' "Conspiracy: how the paranoid style flourishes and where it comes from" By Jerry Russell and Richard Stanley Many historical conspiracies (starting with the murder of Julius Caesar) are widely accepted facts. When it comes to current or ongoing conspiracies, however, we are much more likely to find that the predominant view is set by the conspiracy naysayers. These are social commentators of various ilk, ranging from network news anchors to public relations spin doctors to bar stool jockeys. Daniel Pipes' 1997 book "Conspiracy: how the paranoid style flourishes and where it comes from" is a prime example of the naysayer's art, and yet (as we shall see) Pipes is also very good at promoting "conspiracy theories" when it suits his purposes. The Swiss army knife in the naysayers toolbox is the skillful exploitation of the persona of the public. In a Jungian view: every individual maintains a vital defense mechanism called the persona, which is their constructed image or facade which is presented to the world. The persona is not so much a self-consciously aware construct, but rather it is built up and internalized throughout the process of socialization during childhood. In American culture, the persona includes a strong conviction that we are surrounded by people with benign intentions -- and that by joining enthusiastically in the American consumer culture, we are ourselves participating in an expression of the best of human aspirations. We are deeply convinced, as part of our social make-up, that our culture represents the highest flowering of justice and democracy. Of course, this psychological construct is continuously fortified by educational institutions, employers and the corporate media. The persona also includes an inbred social desire to belong to the currently favored social clique. By adhering to the conventional wisdom, anyone can leverage or protect their position in society, whether this be in elementary school playgrounds, in a corporation, or at the heights of governance. By contrast, anyone who draws attention to wrongful acts within society, is acting as a cassandra or alarmist -- and risks a punishment proportional to the severity of the disconnect between the persona and the reality. The ideas that emerge from the conspiracy literature -- that government is not always good but rather might be murderous and evil, that our society is to some extent based in trickery and deceit, causing pain and suffering around the world -- represent deep attacks on our own conception of ourselves. In Jungian terms, these are part of the shadow world, the deeply repressed, unconscious archetypes of evil. The conspiracy literature is not approached with normal cognitive facilities of critical evaluation, but rather it is attacked (if it is confronted at all) almost as a form of pornography, a tool of the Devil himself. Daniel Pipes: Common Sense turned on its head. Daniel Pipes' book is best interpreted as an exquisitely crafted appeal to the deep-seated psychological prejudices in the persona of his readers. Remarkably, Pipes frames the topic of "conspiracy theory" so that, by definition, his opponents must be, essentially, wacko. In an Orwellian semantic reversal, Pipes writes (p.21): "A conspiracy theory is the fear of a nonexistent conspiracy. Conspiracy refers to an act, conspiracy theory to a perception. While the first is an old term, dating to Middle English, the latter goes back only some decades." In a footnote, Pipes adds that a German term Verschworungsmythos, meaning "myth of conspiracy" is much more explanatory. However, he cannot bring himself to use this straightforward terminology in English, although it works just as well as in German. Pipes ignores the fact that the word "theory" is in itself quite neutral, as in "the theory of gravity" or "the theory of relativity", a scientific description of a thought process that may be quite accurate and factually based. In fact, as hinted at by Pipes, it's highly likely that the pejorative use of the term "conspiracy theory" dates back to the controversies over the murder of John Kennedy and other liberal political figures of the '60s, when the term was hi-jacked and abused by media apologists for the mythical "lone nut" theories promoted by the FBI and other Federal agencies. At any rate, the pejorative use of the term "conspiracy theory" is now widely accepted. My recommendation is that activists avoid the term, or else use it only in Pipes' sense -- such as the following expression of my own belief: "The myth of Islamic responsibility for 9-11 is a fraudulent conspiracy theory promoted by corporate media shills and the US government." Pipes admits that conspiracies do occur, and have at times played an important role in history. He also states that there is a vast literature concerning conspiracies and their historical
[CTRL] IDF Fire Tear Gas, Stun Grenades At Rachel Corrie Memorial
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,917178,00.html Activist's memorial service disrupted Chris McGreal in Jerusalem Wednesday March 19, 2003 The Guardian Israeli forces fired teargas and stun grenades yesterday in an attempt to break up a memorial service for Rachel Corrie, the American peace activist killed by an army bulldozer in Gaza on Sunday. Witnesses including several dozen foreigners and Palestinian supporters say Israeli armoured vehicles tried to disperse the gathering at the spot in Rafah refugee camp where Ms Corrie was crushed to death. The 23 year-old activist with the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) was trying to prevent the destruction of Palestinian homes by the Israelis when she was hit by the bulldozer. Joe Smith, a young activist from Kansas City, said about 100 people were gathered to lay carnations and erect a small memorial when the first armoured personnel carrier appeared. "They started firing teargas and blowing smoke, then they fired sound grenades. After a while it got hectic so we sat down. Then the tank came over and shot in the air," he said. "It scared a lot of Palestinians, especially the shooting made a lot of them run and the teargas freaked people out. But most of us stayed." Another witness said the army failed to break up the service. "People were laying carnations at the spot where Rachel was killed when a tank came and fired teargas right on them. Then a core group of the peace activists took an ISM cloth banner to the fence and pinned it up. "The tank chased after them trying to stop them with teargas but the wind was against the army," she said. Tensions rose further when a convoy of vehicles, including the bulldozer that killed Ms Corrie, passed the area. "I don't think it was deliberate but it was pretty insensitive," said Mr Smith. "I think they had been destroying some buildings elsewhere and had to pass by to get back to their base." The army said it was investigating the incident. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is Iran Next?
-Caveat Lector- The US is just getting down right ridiculous, if the US Senate is alluding to invading Iran to free oppressed women, here is a question with an extremely obvious answer Why doesn't the US invade some of the African States to free women who are forced to adhere to the age old custom of female circumcision? All I can say is that the position that the US is taking on world affairs is nothing but pretentious unctuous garbage. From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Is Iran Next? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:40:13 -0600 -Caveat Lector- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2297.htm Is Iran Next? This Senate Resolution, Suggests It May Be: Jump Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. (Introduced in Senate) SRES 82 IS 108th CONGRESS 1st Session S. RES. 82 Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES March 12, 2003 Mr. BROWNBACK (for himself, Mr. WYDEN, Mr. COLEMAN, Mr. CORNYN, Mr. CAMPBELL, and Mr. KYL) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations RESOLUTION Expressing the sense of the Senate concerning the continuous repression of freedoms within Iran and of individual human rights abuses, particularly with regard to women. Whereas the people of the United States respect the Iranian people and value the contributions that Iran's culture has made to world civilization for over 3 millennia; Whereas the Iranian people aspire to democracy, civil, political, and religious rights, and the rule of law, as evidenced by increasingly frequent antigovernment and anti-Khatami demonstrations within Iran and by statements of numerous Iranian expatriates and dissidents; Whereas Iran is an ideological dictatorship presided over by an unelected Supreme Leader with limitless veto power, an unelected Expediency Council and Council of Guardians capable of eviscerating any reforms, and a President elected only after the aforementioned disqualified 234 other candidates for being too liberal, reformist, or secular; Whereas the Iranian Government has been developing a uranium enrichment program that by 2005 is expected to be capable of producing several nuclear weapons each year, which would further threaten nations in the region and around the world; Whereas the United States recognizes the Iranian peoples' concerns that President Muhammad Khatami's rhetoric has not been matched by his actions; Whereas President Khatami clearly lacks the ability and inclination to change the behavior of the State of Iran either toward the vast majority of Iranians who seek freedom or toward the international community; Whereas political repression, newspaper censorship, corruption, vigilante intimidation, arbitrary imprisonment of students, and public executions have increased since President Khatami's inauguration in 1997; Whereas men and women are not equal under the laws of Iran and women are legally deprived of their basic rights; Whereas the Iranian Government shipped 50 tons of sophisticated weaponry to the Palestinian Authority despite Chairman Arafat's cease-fire agreement, consistently seeks to undermine the Middle East peace process, provides safe- haven to al-Qa'ida and Taliban terrorists, allows transit of arms for guerrillas seeking to undermine our ally Turkey, provides transit of terrorists seeking to destabilize the United States-protected safe-haven in Iraq, and develops weapons of mass destruction; Whereas since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and despite rhetorical protestations to the contrary, the Government of Iran has actively and repeatedly sought to undermine the United States war on terror; Whereas there is a broad-based movement for change in Iran that represents all sectors of Iranian society, including youth, women, student bodies, military personnel, and even religious figures, that is pro- democratic, believes in secular government, and is yearning to live in freedom; Whereas following the tragedies of September 11, 2001, tens of thousands of Iranians filled the streets spontaneously and in solidarity with the United States and the victims of the terrorist attacks; and Whereas the people of Iran deserve the support of the American people: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate that-- (1) legitimizing the regime in Iran stifles the growth of the genuine democratic forces in Iran and does not serve the national security interest of the United States; (2) positive gestures of the United States toward Iran should be directed toward the people of Iran, and not political figures whose survival depends upon
Re: [CTRL] The president's real goal in Iraq
-Caveat Lector- ...is to serve his Trotskyite masters like Perle and Wolfowitz as faithfully as possible. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IRAQ VERSUS THE NEW WORLD ORDER
-Caveat Lector- Very enlightening thanks A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE PERFECT STORM Part 1 - The Real Stakes Behind The War
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031903_perfect_storm_1.html The Real Stakes Behind the War - With the UN Neutralized There Are No More Rules - The U.S. Economy on the Brink - Global Oil Shortages and Massive Price Hikes Imminent - Paralysis Looming in U.S. Government - The WTO and Rockefellers Turning on Bush - A World War that Will Pit the U.S. Against Europe and Russia in a Struggle for Survival with the Winners Facing China THE PERFECT STORM - Part I by Michael C. Ruppert Copyright 2003, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May be reprinted, distributed or posted on an Internet web site for non-profit purposes only. - And most of the American people, with their bankrupt and corrupt economy, will welcome cheap oil, while it lasts, and they will engage in a multitude of psychological and sickening rationales that will, in the end, amount to nothing more than saying, "I dont care how many women and children you kill. Just let me keep my standard of living." -- From The Wilderness, August 27, 2002. - What does big oil want in Iraq? To regain influence over the great Middle East oilfields... and the race seems likely to be won by American and British firms: ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Shell and BP Newsweek, March 24, 2003 issue- The most common cause of recessions, a surge in oil prices, is again afflicting the global economy The New York Times, March 2, 2003 - French and Russian oil and gas contracts signed with the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq "will not be honored," Kurdish Prime Minister Barhim Salih said in Washington Friday. Newsmax Wires March 14, 2003 March 19, 2003 1700 PST, (FTW) Diplomacy ended on Monday and the reality and risks of a global war are now placed in the immediate and unavoidable focus of a world which has for the most part chosen not to understand what is at stake. This war will not be fought solely with bullets and bombs. The chain of events which is about to be set in motion dictates that the United States, assuming its Iraqi conquest is successful, continue upon a series of global military occupations to control the last remaining significant oil reserves on the planet. With the shedding of the first blood, the dropping of the first bomb, the killing of the first Iraqi child, and the death of the first American serviceman, a one-way border will have been crossed. And with that crossing economic and political forces that might combine to form the Perfect Storm aimed at America have made themselves visible. George W. Bushs United States will punish its recent adversaries at the UN. They will be cut out of the Iraqi spoils. But Germany, France, Russia and China have a much more realistic view of Iraqi oil than the U.S. does. Bush and his corporate allies have marketed to the markets that sometime in the next month or two were going to see a real bonanza as oil prices fall back to $15-20 dollar per barrel and stay there. It is not going to happen. On March 7, FTW Contributing Editor for Energy, Dale Allen Pfeiffer broke down the reality of Iraqi oil. Its not whats in the ground that counts now, its what can be gotten to market. The Bush gamble is a big long shot and getting longer by the minute. Iraqi oil infrastructure is crumbling after twelve years of sanctions and there wont be any increase in Iraqi production without major investment and rebuilding. That takes time. The Guardian disclosed on January 26 that the U.S. is currently buying more than a million barrels per day (Mbpd) from Iraq out of the ten million that it imports from around the world. What might happen if just that million barrels went away? For a detailed look at the current state of Iraqs oil industry please visit: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030703_us_intentions.html What we know from previous stories in FTW is that the world has no spare production capacity to make up for any significant loss of supply in Iraq. Sure OPEC has stated that they will increase production by three to five Mbpd. Venezuela has staged a remarkable recovery after the recently failed "strike" to reach 3 Mbpd of its pre-strike level of 4 Mbpd. But Venezuelan fields are old, tired, depleting fast and the oil is heavy and expensive to refine. Venezuela offers no cushion. The promises of Saudi Arabia and the other mid east OPEC nations, on their face, sound comforting but they mean nothing because the planet is consuming a billion barrels (Gb) of oil every 12 days and that rate of consumption is increasing. Recent stories by the Agence France Presse (March 12) and the BBC (March 10) tell us that auto sales jumped 48% last year in Thailand and 50% in China respectively. This is the double edged sword behind Peak Oil. Without increased sales of consumer goods and autos, the Western economies collapse anyway and the emerging economies of the Far East are steadily increasing both consumption and demand. So if Iraqi production drops as a result of war, where will
Re: [CTRL] Eve of War - Eve of Purim - The Revenge of St Pat!
-Caveat Lector- Troops in the Kuwait desert pray during a St. Patrick's Day parade Monday. Mr Hoffmanmight consider a lip-lock with the Blarney. He needs all the help he can get. With the blarney added to his bollocks bag of tricks and superstition he may have a some hope -- for he has not yet convinced a single sod, nor made a rational argument for anything that even a halfwit might subscribe to. I would rather proffer that seeing as March is the month of St Patrick's Day -- it is more likely that some sinister plan of the Cryptocracy involves therevenge of St Patrick. The Irish are extremely hot headed and have a foul temper you know. So Iraq is not about any 'Jewish war,' -- asad nauseumbut wrongly contested by Hoffman --it's in fact the Irish who are behind this proposed war -- much as they were behind the 9/11 bombing of the twin towers et al ya'all should know --revenge for all those bad and anti-Irish Jokes! "Wink, wink, nudge,nudge, say no more". Given thehiddenSatanicsymbolismwithin St Patrick's Day chimera, we find many metaphors for the Iraqi conflagration about to take place emanating from this occult "Day" and its hidden meaning. Do forget that the term "Day," in St Pat's has Masonic significance too -- i.e. d 'A' y -- get it guys! -- this indicates that in the middle of this wholeIraqiboondoggle is the 'A' --arch symbolfor Masonic intrigues. It's also partly a symbol of Masonic Socialism. Taking the individualism out D.'I'.Y, where the individual 'I' is made responsible for his own welfare,to a mommy societybottle-fed by Masons. Thus, d 'I' y has been altered to indicate that the Brothers "A" in d 'A' y will nurture you from cradle to grave -- see! It's quite apparent that it's all a diabolical Irish-Masonic conspiracy hatched by the master fiendfrom Hell -Satan himself. The evil 'Cloven One' - get it enigma-maniacs -- i.e. 'cloven' really comes from St Pat's Irish'clover' according to the Irish Cryptocraciesown Dabbalistic lexicography. Note: to facilitate public brainwashing, some of this Dabbalistic teaching was revealed of old, as in the song, "Come Mr Talmud, tally me banana" -- as all informed oracles are aware. The St Pat's DayIrish-Talmud connection can be found in theesoteric Hiberno-Celtic, 'Book of Guinness' --a dark, heavy book which few human (non Erse) stomachs can tolerate for long. Legend credits St Patrickas "banishing of the snakes"-- really a metaphor for the eradication of pagan ideology from Ireland and the triumph of Christianity. Within two hundred years of Patrick's arrival, Ireland was completely 'Christianized'. As your oracle -- Ialone with sibylline power, can decode this cryptographic messagefor ya'all --I can inform you that this is symbol languageand applies to Mr Bush who sees himself banishing the Iraqi snake Saddam and the Infidelhorde Saddam seeks to unleash against the Xtian West. Halting the Infidel plague of snakes, will invariably assistKaiser Bush's plan to plant a mycelium of 'Democracy' in the region and hence allow the free proselytising by Christian Fundi's whose ultimate vision is a global Hierocracy where all people may freely choose, practice and express their views and beliefs -- such as whatever beliefs, viewsand practices the Hierocracychooses for them. TheXtian Kaiser ( fr. L.Caesar)Bush rattles the sabre, whilst his co-messiah, St John Paul II (the former peaceful Zyklon B salesman circa WWII) in the Vatican brandishes the olive branch -- surely out of this symbolic "caught between a Shrub, the Saracen moon and New Vatican City" a syncretistic synthesis betwixt war and peace must immerge. A three-leafed clover, the shamrock is the national emblem of Ireland. It is widelyspeculated that St. Patrick used the shamrock to illustrate the Christian doctrine of the trinity. The shamrock, which was also called the "seamroy" by the Celts, was a sacred plant in ancient Ireland because it symbolized the rebirth of spring. Clearly, St Pat's three-leafed cloveris yet another sinister symbol of the crypto-mantic Western alliance -- The US, Australia and Britain. You can believe me, its true, just because I say it's true. Further, I have deciphered the latest news reports out of Australia, whose prime Minister initially denied having Aussie troops in Iraq. He lied! Well half-lied. The troopswerein fact there, just not human troopers. They are a special elite squad of 666 Koala'sfrom the 33RD Kangaroo Lodge, highly trained to piss on Saddam's noggin in chorus. "Wink, wink, nudge,nudge, say no more". Another moniker of St Pat is the Celtic Cross: This enduring symbol was created when St. Patrick superimposed a sun, a powerful Irish symbol, onto a Christian cross. Now who has not seen the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Eve of War - Eve of Purim
-Caveat Lector- Zuukie I must protest! I for one will defend Bill Shannon's (hither B.S.) right to post any racist and anti-Semitic rant he so chooses! I object to censorship! B.S. does not breech the list disclaimer, "CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's (sic)need not apply" -- clearly he is neither of these but only sounds like one when hepromotes gobbledegook written by these people. Merely the fact that it has feathers, a beak, waddles and quacks like an Aix sponsa does not mean it isthe common varietyWood Duck. Hence, B.S. is simply acting the part of a duck. I think there is a clear distinction here -- don't you? To play, imitate, and act the part of a racist and anti-Semite, or perhaps a better term would be Judeophobe,is a far cry from being one! 'Freedom of Speech' is what I'm all about. B.S. -- please do not cease to post the endless vitriol, vengeance, fear-mongering and hate promoted by the likes of Hoffman et al. It would be a sad and miserable day were peace, love, joyand good-will to triumph betweennations and men alike -- Yick!!! What a horrid thought! Dave. - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Eve of War - Eve of Purim -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/17/2003 10:49:12 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shannon, you are a very simplistic thinker. The other possibility isthat you are paid to be a disinformation agent. Who knows which it is.CTRL is also responsible for allowing you to post every day more thanfive anti-Semitic messages while posting their disclaimer at the end.If CTRL wasn't that desperate for postings, you wouldn't be around.Uh huh.Nothing I post is "anti-semitic" and you well know it. You are hypersensitive and clearly of the distasteful and un-American Israel-first/amen corner crowd. I tend towards America first and foremost and ya' know what Zuukie? Here in Chicagoland more and more people are coming to see things in the proper light. And that's only good for America.Bill. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] .. Jews are behind the Iraq push is as dodgy as French platitudes ...
-Caveat Lector- Credibility lost amid war hysteria http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/17/1047749715461.html March 18 2003 The idea that conservative Jews are behind the Iraq push is as dodgy as French platitudes, writes Gerard Henderson. It is seldom a surprise when the occasional conspiracy theory is shared (albeit for different reasons) by the lunar right and the extreme left. But it comes as something of an eye-opener when such junk receives the apparent endorsement of serious commentators such as ABC-TV Four Corners presenter Jonathan Holmes. Last week Four Corners ran Holmes's report, "American Dreamers", of the United States in the lead-up to what seems likely to become the second Gulf War. There was nothing particularly fresh in the report. The line was familiar, namely that "a tiny unelected network of veteran Washington operators" decided on a course of action which has propelled George Bush to seek the disarmament of Iraq by military force. The guilty party are the "neo-conservatives" - meaning a number of US academics/commentators/think tank operatives who used to support the liberal left (ie, the Democrats) but came to back the tough-minded positions embraced by that section of the US conservative movement which supported Ronald Reagan's anti-communism during the final years of the Cold War. There is some truth in the theory that the group which goes by the name neo-conservative is influential in Washington. After all, the Republicans are in the White House. However, such a finding would scarcely justify Holmes and his crew going to Washington. Hence the story within the story. As Holmes put it, the neo-conservatives (allegedly) driving US policy with respect to Saddam Hussein's Iraq are "almost all Jews whose parents had emigrated from Eastern Europe". Names were named, and some were interviewed on camera. The Holmes list included Paul Wolfowitz (Deputy Secretary of Defence), Douglas Feith (Under-Secretary of Defence who was described as a "lifelong Zionist") and Richard Perle (chairman of the Defence Policy Board). Holmes spoke to Feith and Perle, but did not put his theory about the impact of their Jewish backgrounds to either - except to suggest in the first instance that there might be "a sort of hidden agenda going on here". ");document.write("advertisement"); } } // --> > Wolfowitz, Feith and Perle are Jewish. So what? Above all, they are Americans. What's more, the Jewish community in the US is divided over Iraq - as it is on most issues. In any event, the key - and most senior - advisers of the Bush Administration's policy on Iraq are the Vice-President, Dick Cheney, the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, and the National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice. None is Jewish. Nor is the President. Little wonder then the "agenda" in this instance is "hidden". It cannot be found because it does not exist. Rightly or wrongly, the US is contemplating military action in the Gulf because of the change in the American psyche after the September 11 attacks. Dominique de Villepin, the French Foreign Minister, made a brief appearance on "American Dreamers", saying, with respect to Iraq: "What is at stake here is war and peace; and we are willing to try to give peace a chance." This is not only a cliche. Like Holmes, de Villepin has totally misread the US after September 11. Correctly or incorrectly, the US considers not only that Americans face a real and present danger but that the US is at war. Bush said as much in his recent address to the American Enterprise Institute, declaring that after September 11, "we must look at security in a new way because our country is a battlefield in the first war of the 21st century". Bush (with Tony Blair and John Howard) has become convinced that Saddam may hand over a weapon of mass destruction to a terrorist movement which may use it to attack New York, London or Sydney. It is unlikely Bush would hold such a position with such intensity if September 11 had not happened, irrespective of whether some American Jews, among others, may have wanted regime change in Iraq. The Four Corners team appears to take de Villepin's "give peace a chance" platitude at face value. It is not clear that successive governments in Paris deserve such respect. The French have yet to fully acknowledge France's collaboration with Nazi Germany in the early 1940s. Today the French like to lecture about world peace, despite their miserable record as a colonial power in South-East Asia and Africa and the recent effective support for the mass murderers of Rwanda. Moreover, no Western government has a worse record than France in supplying aid and comfort to Saddam in recent years. This even extended to Jacques Chirac's involvement in the French decision to help Iraq build a nuclear reactor. Thankfully it was destroyed by Israeli military action, outside any United Nations mandate. At
Re: [CTRL] Leo Strauss - Fascist Godfather Of the Neo-Cons
-Caveat Lector- Maybe it's just because of life on a sunny part of the globe thatI view this article by Steinberg for the most part as simply a pile of ignorant gobshyte. Maybe not. Nietzsche was not a 'Nazi' nor an ideologue of Nazism. How ridiculous can you get. His name has been tarnished and demonised in the swill scattered from the cesspool of mewling swine amongst the clerico-fascists over the decades. Nietzsche is about the liberation of man. Liberation from the State, liberation from man and his superstitions, liberation from the manufactured gods of society. He proclaimed truthfully that the churches had become mausoleums --the very tombs of god. For his bold claims, he is invariably maligned and hated by the clerico-fascists and their sympathisers the world over. Experts on Nietzsche like Douglas Thomas, curator of the USC Nietzsche web-page reminds us that a sister's greed and manipulation foundNietzsche's manuscripts placed in the canon of racism and abuse: "While it is true that Nietzsche's writings were used extensively as Nazi propaganda, Nietzsche himself would have been starkly opposed to Nazism. Nietzsche was a fierce opponent of German nationalism, and in spite of his critique of Judaism as a religion, he wrote just as often in praise of Jewish culture. Nietzsche's attachment to Nazism is largely result of his sister's efforts to edit his work and use it as a means to advance her own social position during the period of National Socialism in Germany." (1) Nietzschesister, like Hitlerists, abused his writings to support their personal greed and Nazi and fanatic Nationalistic causes.Nietzschegives a scathing review of his outrage at being so misemployed. "You have committed one of the greatest stupiditiesfor yourself and for me! Your association with an anti-Semitic chief expresses a foreignness to my whole way of life which fills me again and again with ire or melancholy It is a matter of honor with me to be absolutely clean and unequivocal in relation to anti-Semitism, namely opposed [sic.] to it, as I am in my writings. That the name of Zarathustra is used in every Anti-Semitic Correspondence Sheet has almost made me sick several times. " (2) Nietzsche maintained that all human behaviour is motivated by the 'will to power'. In its positive sense, the will to power is not simply power over others, but the power over oneself that is necessary for creativity. Such power is manifested in the "overmans" independence, creativity and originality. According to Nietzsche, the masses conform to tradition, whereas his ideal man, (whom he calls the bermensch"overman" or "superman") is secure, independent, and highly individualistic. The overman feels deeply, but his passions are rationally controlled. Concentrating on the real world, rather than on the rewards of the next world promised by religion, the overman affirms life, including the suffering and pain that accompany human existence. He is a creator of values, a creator of a "master morality" that reflects the strength and independence of one who is liberated from all values, except those that he deems valid. Nietzsche is hardly a 'Nazi' Borg as this ill-informed, 'Jeffrey Steinberg,' implies in his demonising rant against Strauss. References 1. Douglas Thomas, Associate Professor in the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Southern California. 2. The Portable Nietzsche Walter Kaufman [trans.] 1954 Viking Press (ppg. 546-457) Dave. - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [CTRL] Leo Strauss - Fascist Godfather Of the Neo-Cons -Caveat Lector- http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3011profile_strauss.htmlProfile: Leo Strauss,Fascist Godfather Of the Neo-Consby Jeffrey SteinbergIn a June 17, 1996 article by Richard Lacayo, Time magazine named the late University of Chicago philosopher Leo Strauss (1899-1973) as one of the most influential and powerful figures in Washington, D.C.the man most responsible for the Newt Gingrich "Conservative Revolution" on Capitol Hill, and the intellectual godfather of Newtzi's "Contract on America" blueprint for vicious fascist austerity.If Strauss' influence on politics in the capital of the most powerful nation on Earth was awesome in 1996, it is even more so today. The leading "Straussian" in the Bush Administration is Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, who was trained by Strauss' alter-ego and fellow University of Chicago professor Allan Bloom. Wolfowitz leads the "war party" within the civilian bureaucracy at the Pentagon, and his own protg, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, is Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff and chief national security aide, directing a super-hawkish "shadow national security council" out of the Old Executive
[CTRL] {attack} Un-Constitutional Expenditures (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:12:30 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: {attack} Un-Constitutional Expenditures IF YOU'RE RECEIVING TOO MUCH MAIL, Send email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU CAN ALSO READ IT ON THE WEB. This message and all others, just in case your get too happy with your delete key, are archived at http://www.topica.com/lists/USAttacked/read Rich Martin Moderator \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/ellis/20030313.htm WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bald Eagle, The Bird of Freedom Glides , gazing, calm and sure! Un-Constitutional Expenditures By Bob Ellis  Human Events recently published a report on the A HREF=http://www.humanevents.org/articles/03-10-03/outrageous.htm;Ten Most Outrageous Government Programs/A. It´s sad that Human Events could find enough material to put this list together, and sadder still that this list was not compiled by Congress and then handled appropriately.The programs identified in this report were included because they did not have a mandate to exist from the U.S. Constitution. You see, our Constitution defines not only our values as a people, but sets boundaries for our government. The founders knew all too well that a government which was too big, unrestrained and unaccountable, could be the enemy of freedom. The Constitution was set up not so much to enumerate the rights of individuals (Ninth Amendment) as to limit the powers of government. The Tenth Amendment says: âThe powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.â The majority of people in government today act as if this amendment did not exist. It was quite clear to most people for the majority of America´s history that unless the Constitution specifically stated the federal government could or should be doing something, that the government should NOT be doing it. That has been twisted in modern thinking to mean, âIf the Constitution doesn´t specifically prohibit an action, then the government can do it.â This is a direct and egregious perversion of our Constitution! In â The Life of Colonel David Crockett,â there is a story of how Congressman Crockett exercised what he had learned about limited government. Once, there was a bill before the House to appropriate money for the widow of a distinguished naval officer. It seemed that everyone would vote in favor of it until Crockett spoke: âMr. Speaker â I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public moneyâ¦We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.â There was another earlier account in that story where Crockett actually learned his lesson after voting for a bill to appropriate $20,000 for the victims of a fire in Georgetown. Crockett, caught up in the emotion of the situation, voted for the measure, which later failed. It was not until re-election time that a constituent reminded him that he had no Constitutional authority for such a measure. When the constituent had finished explaining this to him, Crockett had to admit he was wrong, and apologized to his constituent, pledging never to vote for an unconstitutional measure ever again.Oh, if we only had men of this caliber in Congress today! If we did, we would have more freedom, a better society, and more money in the pockets of the people who earned it. There would be greater innovation in our businesses and greater productivity in our workers. There would be less corruption in government and more responsible decisions
[CTRL] Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B ???
-Caveat Lector- Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B (Desperately-Unsubstantiated-Malicious-Baloney) ...??? I don't really know ... I really have no idea ... I simply am not aware ... I think it might be ... It could be true ... I don't know forsure ... But I have lots of "tales" to tell you about ghosts, goblins and SATAN of course -- Dark Tales from the Xtian Crypt -- rumours by fanatic Xtian Fundi's who allege everybody except themselves is "possessed by the devil," and are workers of the devil. But hang on --ALL the evidence about alleged "demon possession" is to the contrary. For example, almost ALL "EXORCISMS," that is, the allegation that Satan and his devils are expelled from a human victim (the possessed), are performed ON these very same XTIANS who demonise others.These Xtians, who blatantlylibel others are thus in fact FULL of DEMONS themselves.We are informed of this by their very own publications, periodicals and regular calls by their own ministers to have demons a-z cast out of them. So whilst I have no proof whatsoever that S.M.A.R.T. is D.U.M.B., I'm sure i could come up withlots of hearsay, rumour, innuendo, loads of paranoia, much fear and lots of allegations on top allegations followed by more allegations to vilify ... well that should do it! Dave. - Original Message - From: Smart News To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: [CTRL] Possible connections between Masonry and Satanism -Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivorshttp://members.aol.com/smartnews/Sample-Issue-01.htm Research Study"Understanding Ritual Abuse" was a study done of 33 ritual abuse survivors, from 13 different states. It was written by Caren Cook and is available through the Ritual Abuse Project, 431 Auburn Blvd., Suite 215, Sacramento, Ca. 95841. (This address no longer works.)On Page 19 of the study, survivors mentioned two primary organizations that their perpetrators belonged to, the Masons (27 %) and the Knights of Columbus (9 %). Other groups mentioned by survivors were the Rosicrucians, Eastern Star, the Shriners, etc. No question was asked in the study whether the organizations were directly involved in the abuse.In addition to the study there are two page information sheets available for distribution (copies can be made). The study covers the topics of healing, memory, MPD (now DID -Dissociative Identity Disorder), specific abuse, validation and telling about the abuse, as well as other topics.Research ArticleDavid Carrico is the author of a variety of books and pamphlets that allege many connections between Freemasonry and Satanism. The pamphlets include : "Christian Worker's Handbook, The Guide for Ministry to Masons " by David and Donna Carrico, "Freemasonry", the books include : "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection ~ ''The Golden Dawn - A Graphic Expose'' and ''The Pentagram, Freemasonry and the Goat". WARNING: This article may have triggering information in it, including graphic descriptions of rituals. Please take adequate precautions. All accusations are alleged.The following information is from the book, "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection"" The book, "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection" begins by showing how the mass murderer David Berkowitz 'Son of Sam' was allegedly a member of a Satanic cult strongly influenced by the writings of Eliphas Levi and Aleister Crowley, both high ranking Masons.Nimrod, son of Noah, helped build the Tower of Babel. He is considered by the Masons as great because he tried to establish a "New World Order" and he was called the "first Grand Master."The Mystery Religion of the Masons was originated in Ancient Babylon. This religion included occult symbols, ritual symbols, occult paraphernalia and candles. Many of the days held sacred by the Mystery Religions, according to Albert Pike (a 33rd degree Mason), are the same ones used by the Satanists for modern rituals (according to Satanic calendars). Some of the God's pictures taken from the Masonic History Book have Satanic or evil Biblical connections, including Ashtoreth, Dagon, Baal (children were sacrificed to Baal), and the Satanic Goat of Mendes.In the "Oath of Nimrod" (1st degree), the revealing of any Masonic secrets is the loss of the revealer's life. Several Masons discuss the connection between the mystery religions and the Masons. These religions included human sacrifice.Freemason J. S. M. Ward claims that Freemasonry is a descendent of the Adonis cult. This cult allegedly had a custom of tying people to trees and castrating them and then sometimes stabbing them. This book was distributed by the Masonic Supply Company.Aleister Crowley was a 33 degree Mason and is considered by some the father of Modern Satanism. He wanted to be called "The Beast 666". He was expelled from
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Eve of War - Eve of Purim
-Caveat Lector- So now lamenting the takeover of our foreign policy by a bunch of chickenhawk Likudniks makes one "sound" like a holocaust denier or Nazi huh? I see how the game is played. It's cute too that Dorothy/Zuukie the drum corps gal has taken to arranging your little hit on me offlist. I feel special to merit such special attention. Bill. In a message dated 3/19/2003 8:04:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: B.S. does not breech the list disclaimer, "CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's (sic) need not apply" -- clearly he is neither of these but only sounds like one when he promotes gobbledegook written by these people. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] United States: inventing demons
-Caveat Lector- http://mondediplo.com/2003/03/03radicalright United States: inventing demons There is a coalition of the radical right in the United States, including the odd Democrat, that has long held that patriotic mobilisation is important in holding American society together. When detente broke out in the 1970s, these hawks worried about any reduction in international tension, however slight. Since 11 September 2001 they have had no more worries. By PHILIP S GOLUB THE neo-conservative right has been attempting, with varying success, to establish itself as the dominant ideological force in the United States for more than 25 years, especially in the definition of foreign policy. Long thwarted by democratic process and public resistance to the national security state, it is now on the brink of success, thanks to George Bush's disputed electoral victory in 2000, and to 11 September 2001, which transformed an accidental president into an American Caesar. President Bush has become the neocon vehicle for a policy that is based on unilateralism, permanent mobilisation and "preventive war". War and militarisation would have been impossible without 11 September, which tipped the institutional balance in favour of the new right. There were other possible responses that would have had a less destabilising effect on the world. One would have been to strengthen multilateral cooperation to contain the stateless trans-national terrorist threat, and seek to reduce tensions and resolve conflicts in areas at risk, notably the Middle East. Another would have been Keynesian-style regional development on Marshall Plan lines. This would have encouraged local forces for democracy, and would undoubtedly have been more effective than war in stimulating the US and global economies. As we know, neither course was followed. Instead, the Bush administration has allowed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to fester, mobilised massively, and opted for "preventive war" as a means of policing the planet. Apart from such opportunist motives as seizing the strategic chance to redraw the map of the Middle East and the Persian Gulf (1), this choice reflects much more far-reaching imperial ambitions. In the words of Anatol Lieven of the Carnegie Endowment in Washington, "the basic and generally agreed plan is unilateral world domin ation through absolute superiority, and this has been consistently advocated and worked on by the group of intellectuals close to Dick Cheney and Richard Perle since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s" (2). This authoritarian project became feasible in the unipolar world after 1991, when the US got a monopoly on the use of force in interstate relations. But it was conceived in the 1970s, when the extremist coalition now in control was first formed. The aim is to unite the nation and secure US strategic supremacy worldwide. The instruments are war and permanent mobilisation, both requiring the constant identification of new enemies and the establishment of a strong national security state, which is independent of society. This project is now obvious, but it was already apparent in the mid-1970s, when the radical right sabotaged the new East-West detente. It took shape during the 1980s, when the same players ordered the biggest peacetime mobilisation ever, and in the early 1990s, when the neo-conservatives worked out the doctrine of US primacy (3). The demolition of East-West detente in the mid-1970s was a crucial moment in this process. In response to the broad popular revolt against the national security state and widespread cultural changes in US society, the radical right wing of the Republican party, led by Ronald Reagan, joined forces with elements in the national security apparatus bent on revenge for the humiliating defeat in Vietnam, and neo- conservative Democrats from the hardline anti-communist wing of the party. This coalition was determined to restore the state's authority and the national cold-war consensus, and to re-establish US strategic supremacy, and it conducted a political and ideological campaign to bury detente. The campaign was directed at the realistic balance of power policy that was being pursued by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon, which in the coalition's view represented a dangerous weakening of the collective US will. Rather than detente, the radical right coalition advocated massive mobilisation and a strategic offensive to roll back the Soviet regime. Containment and armed coexistence, the two pillars of George Kennan's cold war strategy, were to be abandoned in favour of active measures designed to induce a collapse of the Soviet system. As Kissinger once said, "whereas the early cold warriors had been content to rely on containment to bring this change about in the fullness of time, their successors were promising significant changes in the Soviet system as the result of direct American pressure" (4). Richard Perle, one of the most influential
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Eve of War - Eve of Purim
-Caveat Lector- At 03:52 AM 3/21/03 , you wrote: To play, imitate, and act the part of a racist and anti-Semite, or perhaps a better term would be Judeophobe, is a far cry from being one! Funny thing, that in America, a supposedly Christian nation, that people wince and tremble and bow their knee in worship at the sound of the word anti-semitism or the word jew, but anyone can trash Christians all day long. Now don't say anything bad about Muslims or Hindus either. What's wrong with this picture? How about Anti-Christianism? A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B ???
-Caveat Lector- Wow, Dave. This was a little heavy for survivors. ; - Ray On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 03:13 AM, David Sutherland wrote: Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B (Desperately-Unsubstantiated-Malicious-Baloney) ... ??? I don't really know ... I really have no idea ... I simply am not aware ... I think it might be ... It could be true ... I don't know for sure ... But I have lots of tales to tell you about ghosts, goblins and SATAN of course -- Dark Tales from the Xtian Crypt -- rumours by fanatic Xtian Fundi's who allege everybody except themselves is possessed by the devil, and are workers of the devil. But hang on -- ALL the evidence about alleged demon possession is to the contrary. For example, almost ALL EXORCISMS, that is, the allegation that Satan and his devils are expelled from a human victim (the possessed), are performed ON these very same XTIANS who demonise others. These Xtians, who blatantly libel others are thus in fact FULL of DEMONS themselves. We are informed of this by their very own publications, periodicals and regular calls by their own ministers to have demons a-z cast out of them. So whilst I have no proof whatsoever that S.M.A.R.T. is D.U.M.B., I'm sure i could come up with lots of hearsay, rumour, innuendo, loads of paranoia, much fear and lots of allegations on top allegations followed by more allegations to vilify ... well that should do it! Dave. - Original Message - From: Smart News To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: [CTRL] Possible connections between Masonry and Satanism -Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Sample-Issue-01.htm Research Study Understanding Ritual Abuse was a study done of 33 ritual abuse survivors, from 13 different states. It was written by Caren Cook and is available through the Ritual Abuse Project, 431 Auburn Blvd., Suite 215, Sacramento, Ca. 95841. (This address no longer works.) On Page 19 of the study, survivors mentioned two primary organizations that their perpetrators belonged to, the Masons (27 %) and the Knights of Columbus (9 %). Other groups mentioned by survivors were the Rosicrucians, Eastern Star, the Shriners, etc. No question was asked in the study whether the organizations were directly involved in the abuse. In addition to the study there are two page information sheets available for distribution (copies can be made). The study covers the topics of healing, memory, MPD (now DID -Dissociative Identity Disorder), specific abuse, validation and telling about the abuse, as well as other topics. Research Article David Carrico is the author of a variety of books and pamphlets that allege many connections between Freemasonry and Satanism. The pamphlets include : Christian Worker's Handbook, The Guide for Ministry to Masons by David and Donna Carrico, Freemasonry, the books include : The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection ~ ''The Golden Dawn - A Graphic Expose'' and ''The Pentagram, Freemasonry and the Goat. WARNING: This article may have triggering information in it, including graphic descriptions of rituals. Please take adequate precautions. All accusations are alleged. The following information is from the book, The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection The book, The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection begins by showing how the mass murderer David Berkowitz 'Son of Sam' was allegedly a member of a Satanic cult strongly influenced by the writings of Eliphas Levi and Aleister Crowley, both high ranking Masons. Nimrod, son of Noah, helped build the Tower of Babel. He is considered by the Masons as great because he tried to establish a New World Order and he was called the first Grand Master. The Mystery Religion of the Masons was originated in Ancient Babylon. This religion included occult symbols, ritual symbols, occult paraphernalia and candles. Many of the days held sacred by the Mystery Religions, according to Albert Pike (a 33rd degree Mason), are the same ones used by the Satanists for modern rituals (according to Satanic calendars). Some of the God's pictures taken from the Masonic History Book have Satanic or evil Biblical connections, including Ashtoreth, Dagon, Baal (children were sacrificed to Baal), and the Satanic Goat of Mendes. In the Oath of Nimrod (1st degree), the revealing of any Masonic secrets is the loss of the revealer's life. Several Masons discuss the connection between the mystery religions and the Masons. These religions included human sacrifice. Freemason J. S. M. Ward claims that Freemasonry is a descendent of the Adonis cult. This cult allegedly had a custom of tying people to trees and castrating them and then sometimes stabbing them. This book was distributed by the Masonic Supply Company. Aleister Crowley was a 33 degree Mason and is considered by some the father of Modern Satanism. He wanted to be called The Beast 666. He was expelled from Italy due to accusations of his disciples sacrificing human
[CTRL] $8,000,000,000 MORE???
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general35/israelss.htm Israel To Receive $8 Billion More From US By Adam Entous 3-18-3 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Israel is expected to secure $8 billion in loan guarantees as part of a massive war budget that President Bush will send to Congress soon after any military action is taken against Iraq, U.S. and Israeli sources said on Wednesday. But despite fierce lobbying by Israeli defense officials, Israel is only likely to get between $1 billion and $2 billion in military aid, a steep cut from the country's $4 billion emergency request, according to the sources. The aid will be part of an emergency spending package, which one U.S. official familiar with the plan said could total less than $75 billion including $62.5 billion for defense, to pay for a U.S.-led war on Iraq and to fund other administration priorities, subject to congressional approval. Earlier Pentagon estimates put the military costs at closer to $95 billion. The package is also expected to ask for more than $1 billion for Jordan, an undetermined amount for Turkey, as well as money to bolster anti-terrorism efforts in New York. After a White House meeting with Bush and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he did not ask for a specific amount. Instead he said he appealed to the president to make funding available based on the city's needs. "Clearly New York City was ground zero before. It's the target," Bloomberg said. Ridge said Bush's budget request would include homeland security funding, but said, "No figures, no final determinations have been made." White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Bush supported greater flexibility in how homeland security money was spent. Administration officials and congressional aides said the war package was not expected to include massive amounts of funding for the occupation of Iraq or for reconstruction. That could add tens of billions of dollars to the price tag. Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, who chairs the Senate Appropriations Committee that oversees spending programs, said he expected the request to be submitted early next week. AID TO TURKEY But he said there were a number of uncertainties, among them aid to Turkey. Fleischer said an initial economic package for Turkey, which included $6 billion in direct aid and up to $24 billion in loans, was no longer viable because the Turkish parliament refused to allow 62,000 U.S. troops into the country. But some assistance could still be given to Turkey because the Turkish parliament might allow U.S. overflights to Iraq. Israel is the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid, receiving close to $3 billion in mostly military assistance each year. Israel appealed for an extra $4 billion in military assistance for anti-terrorism efforts and missile defense, as well as $8 billion in loan guarantees. "Our ideas were put on the table a couple of weeks ago and we understand they are being favorably considered by the administration," an Israeli official said. Israel's request has support from congressional leaders, including House of Representatives Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, who told Bush in a letter that "additional loan guarantees -- which cost the American taxpayer nothing -- can help jumpstart Israel's economy, especially if accompanied by further economic restructuring." U.S. officials deny that the military and economic assistance would be tied to Israeli cooperation in a U.S.-led war with Iraq. The United States wants Israel to stay out of any U.S. campaign, as it did when Baghdad fired Scud missiles at Israel in the 1991 Gulf War. Under the U.S. aid proposal, the United States would deduct from the face value of the loan guarantees any Israeli expenditures on settlement activities in Palestinian areas. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] THE PERFECT STORM Part 1 - The Real Stakes Behind The War
-Caveat Lector- To add to your list do not forget the Shortage of water in that region which Iraqi water can very easily service. From: Geoff Hodgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: [CTRL] THE PERFECT STORM Part 1 - The Real Stakes Behind TheWar Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:36:14 +1200 -Original Message- From: William Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2003 13:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] THE PERFECT STORM Part 1 - The Real Stakes Behind The War http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031903_perfect_storm_1.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031903_perfect_storm_1.html The Real Stakes Behind the War - With the UN Neutralized There Are No More Rules - The U.S. Economy on the Brink - Global Oil Shortages and Massive Price Hikes Imminent - Paralysis Looming in U.S. Government - The WTO and Rockefellers Turning on Bush - A World War that Will Pit the U.S. Against Europe and Russia in a Struggle for Survival with the Winners Facing China THE PERFECT STORM - Part I by Michael C. Ruppert © Copyright 2003, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. May be reprinted, distributed or posted on an Internet web site for non-profit purposes only. - And most of the American people, with their bankrupt and corrupt economy, will welcome cheap oil, while it lasts, and they will engage in a multitude of psychological and sickening rationales that will, in the end, amount to nothing more than saying, I donât care how many women and children you kill. Just let me keep my standard of living. -- From The Wilderness, August 27, 2002. - What does big oil want in Iraq? To regain influence over the great Middle East oilfields... and the race seems likely to be won by American and British firms: ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Shell and BP â Newsweek, March 24, 2003 issue- The most common cause of recessions, a surge in oil prices, is again afflicting the global economy â The New York Times, March 2, 2003 - French and Russian oil and gas contracts signed with the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq will not be honored, Kurdish Prime Minister Barhim Salih said in Washington Friday. â Newsmax Wires March 14, 2003 March 19, 2003 1700 PST, (FTW) â Diplomacy ended on Monday and the reality and risks of a global war are now placed in the immediate and unavoidable focus of a world which has for the most part chosen not to understand what is at stake. This war will not be fought solely with bullets and bombs. The chain of events which is about to be set in motion dictates that the United States, assuming its Iraqi conquest is successful, continue upon a series of global military occupations to control the last remaining significant oil reserves on the planet. With the shedding of the first blood, the dropping of the first bomb, the killing of the first Iraqi child, and the death of the first American serviceman, a one-way border will have been crossed. And with that crossing economic and political forces that might combine to form the Perfect Storm aimed at America have made themselves visible. George W. Bushâs United States will punish its recent adversaries at the UN. They will be cut out of the Iraqi spoils. But Germany, France, Russia and China have a much more realistic view of Iraqi oil than the U.S. does. Bush and his corporate allies have marketed to the markets that sometime in the next month or two weâre going to see a real bonanza as oil prices fall back to $15-20 dollar per barrel and stay there. It is not going to happen. On March 7, FTW Contributing Editor for Energy, Dale Allen Pfeiffer broke down the reality of Iraqi oil. Itâs not whatâs in the ground that counts now, itâs what can be gotten to market. The Bush gamble is a big long shot and getting longer by the minute. Iraqi oil infrastructure is crumbling after twelve years of sanctions and there wonât be any increase in Iraqi production without major investment and rebuilding. That takes time. The Guardian disclosed on January 26 that the U.S. is currently buying more than a million barrels per day (Mbpd) from Iraq out of the ten million that it imports from around the world. What might happen if just that million barrels went away? For a detailed look at the current state of Iraqâs oil industry please visit: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030703_us_intentions.html http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030703_us_intentions.html What we know from previous stories in FTW is that the world has no spare production capacity to make up for any significant loss of supply in Iraq. Sure OPEC has stated that they will increase production by three to five Mbpd. Venezuela has staged a remarkable recovery after the recently failed strike to reach 3 Mbpd of its pre-strike level of 4 Mbpd. But Venezuelan fields are old, tired, depleting fast and the oil is
[CTRL] scotland, sterilization, smart, Law not responsible, stop war, US image erodes
-Caveat Lector- also has : Cook's resignation speech Nuclear inspectors reportedly angry CHECKING FALSE U.S. LEADS WASTED TIME Iraq war could bring about regime change - in America "The country's mood is bad, with the latest Gallup poll showing that only 36 per cent of Americans are satisfied with the country's direction, and 61 per cent dissatisfied." three from L Moss Sharman Law chief releases Dunblane reports 3/18/03 "Scotland's top law officer today authorised the release of all police reports submitted on Dunblane killer Thomas Hamilton.The decision by the Lord Advocate Colin Boyd QC follows public controversy over the length of a ban on publishing the reports and speculation on whether the report showed links between Hamilton and prominent Scots. Hamilton murdered 16 pupils and a teacher at Dunblane primary school in March 1996 before committed suicide. The decision by Mr Boyd means all police reports submitted to the procurator fiscal in relation to the killer will be made public.He confirmed none of the reports contained allegations against politicians or other prominent figures..." http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,916788,00.html Sterilization abused, lawyer claims David Hogben Vancouver Sun 3/18/03 "More than 90 per cent of mental patients sterilized by the B.C. government were women, says the lawyer representing 18 sterile former Essondale patients in a lawsuit." "Between 1934 and 1949 104 mental patients were ordered sterilized -- 92 women and 12 men. Between 1954 and 1972, 84 mental patients were ordered sterilized by the provincial Board of Eugenics." http://www.canada.com/vancouver/news/story.asp?id=1A079F41-A313-4557-8C67-458999BA9641 Abducted Girl's Relatives Say Her Captor Brainwashed Her By Nick Madigan Salt Lake City, March 16 - With prosecutors expected to file charges soon against a nomadic homeless couple in the disappearance of Elizabeth Smart, her family waged a concerted effort today to portray her as having been incapable of escape during months of wandering streets and canyons almost within sight of her home. Responding to increasingly direct questions about what happened to Elizabeth, now 15, after she was taken at knifepoint from her bed on June 5, relatives attending a church service this morning took pains to explain that, while they had not pressed Elizabeth for details, they were certain she had been left brainwashed by the man she knew as Emmanuel." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/17/national/17UTAH.html Law: Probing priest dad was not my job by Robin Washington 3/14/03 "In his latest deposition, Bernard Cardinal Law said he was ``terribly outraged'' to learn a priest in his archdiocese had fathered children with a woman and failed to assist her when she was dying of a drug overdose, but said it was not the archbishop's responsibility to make sure the case was investigated." http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/chur03142003.htm Dear friend,I'm writing to ask you to join me in signing a Citizens' Declaration reaffirming our commitment to international cooperation.The outbreak of war is not the end of the fight for peace -- only the beginning. Around the globe, people are joining together in the declaration below. We will be announcing it in a press conference on Friday, and we need your help to make it as big as possible .Signing up will only take a minute of your time, but it'll send a message that the momentum built through our opposition to war in Iraq will only keep growing.You can sign up at:http://www.moveon.org/declaration/ Here's the text of the Declaration:A CITIZENS' DECLARATION As a US-led invasion of Iraq begins, we, the undersigned citizens of many countries,reaffirm our commitment to addressing internationalconflicts through the rule of law and the United Nations. By joining together across countries and continents, we have emerged as a new force for peace.As we grieve for the victims of this war,we pledge to redouble our efforts to put an end to the BushAdministration's doctrine of pre-emptive attack andthe reckless use of military power.Thank you. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2859431.stm Cook's resignation speech Here is the full text of Robin Cook's resignation speech in the House of Commons, which won applause from some backbenchers in unprecedented Commons scenes. I have chosen to address the House first on why I cannot support a war without international agreement or domestic support. http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030318_1784.html U.S.'S Image Fast Eroding With War Plans - In Preparing for War Against Iraq, America'S Image Is Fast Eroding As the U.S. Throws Around Its Weight March 18 Dan Vlasin, a 23-year-old teacher in Romania, has no doubts that the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein. But he's just as certain that America doesn't have the right to overthrow the Iraqi leader. "America is acting as if it were God," says Vlasin, from the city
[CTRL] The Bravery of Being Out of Range
-Caveat Lector- The Bravery of Being Out of Range Roger Waters You have a natural tendency to squeeze off a shot You're good fun at parties, you wear the right masks You're old but you still like a laugh in the locker room You can't abide change, you're at home on the range You open the suitcase behind the old workings To show off the magnum, you deafen the canyon A comfort a friend only upstaged in the end by the Uzi machine gun Does the recoil remind you, remind you of sex Old man what the hell you gonna kill next Old timer who you gonna kill next I looked over Jordan and what did I see Saw a US Marine in a pile of debris I swam in your pools and lay under your palm trees I looked in the eyes of the Indian who lay on the Federal Building steps And through the range finder over the hill I saw the frontline boys popping their pills Sick of the mess they find on their desert stage And the bravery of being out of range Yeah the question is vexed Old man what the hell you gonna kill next Old timer who you gonna kill next Hey bartender over here, two more shots and two more beers Sir turn up the TV sound, the war has started on the ground Just love those laser-guided bombs, they're really great for righting wrongs You hit the target and win the game from bars three thousand miles away Three thousand miles away We play the game with the bravery of being out of range We zap and maim with the bravery of being out of range We strafe the train with the bravery of being out of range We gain terrain with the bravery of being out of range With the bravery of being out of range We play the game with the bravery of being out of range A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In Iraq Crisis, Networks Are Megaphones for Official Views
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fair.org/activism/iraq-sources-networks.html ACTION ALERT: In Iraq Crisis, Networks Are Megaphones for Official Views March 18, 2003 Network newscasts, dominated by current and former U.S. officials, largely exclude Americans who are skeptical of or opposed to an invasion of Iraq, a new study by FAIR has found. Looking at two weeks of coverage (1/30/03-2/12/03), FAIR examined the 393 on-camera sources who appeared in nightly news stories about Iraq on ABC World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, NBC Nightly News and PBS's NewsHour with Jim Lehrer. The study began one week before and ended one week after Secretary of State Colin Powell's February 5 presentation at the U.N., a time that saw particularly intense debate about the idea of a war against Iraq on the national and international level. More than two-thirds (267 out of 393) of the guests featured were from the United States. Of the U.S. guests, a striking 75 percent (199) were either current or former government or military officials. Only one of the official U.S. sources-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D.-Mass.)-- expressed skepticism or opposition to the war. Even this was couched in vague terms: "Once we get in there how are we going to get out, whats the loss for American troops are going to be, how long we're going to be stationed there, whats the cost is going to be," said Kennedy on NBC Nightly News (2/5/03). Similarly, when both U.S. and non-U.S. guests were included, 76 percent (297 of 393) were either current or retired officials. Such a predominance of official sources virtually assures that independent and grassroots perspectives will be underrepresented. Of all official sources, 75 percent (222 of 297) were associated with either the U.S. or with governments that support the Bush administration's position on Iraq; only four out of those 222, or 2 percent, of these sources were skeptics or opponents of war. Twenty of the 297 official sources (7 percent) represented the government of Iraq, while a further 19 (6 percent) represented other governments-- mostly friendly to the U.S.-- who have expressed doubts or opposition to the U.S.'s war effort. (Another 34 sources, representing 11 percent of officials, were current or former U.N. employees. Although members of the U.N. inspection teams made statements that were both critical of Iraq's cooperation and supportive of further inspections, because of their official position of neutrality on the question of war they were not counted as skeptics.) Of all official sources, 14 percent (43 of 297) represented a position skeptical or opposed to the U.S. war policy. (Sources were coded as skeptics/critics if either their statements or their affiliations put them in that category; for example, all French government officials were counted as skeptics, regardless of the content of their quote.) The remaining 96 sources-- those without a current or former government connection-- had slightly more balanced views; 26 percent of these non-official sources took a skeptical or critical position on the war. Yet, at a time when 61 percent of respondents in a CBS poll (2/5-6/03) were saying that they felt the U.S. should "wait and give the United Nations and weapons inspectors more time," only sixteen of the 68 U.S. guests (24 percent) who were not officials represented such views. Half of the non-official U.S. skeptics were "persons in the street"; five of them were not even identified by name. Only one U.S. source, Catherine Thomason of Physicians for Social Responsibility, represented an anti-war organization. Of all 393 sources, only three (less than 1 percent) were identified with organized protests or anti-war groups. Overall, 68 sources, or 17 percent of the total on-camera sources, represented skeptical or critical positions on the U.S.'s war policy-- ranging from Baghdad officials to people who had concerns about the timing of the Bush administration's war plans. The percentage of skeptical sources ranged from 21 percent at PBS (22 of 106) to 14 percent at NBC (18 of 125). ABC (16 of 92) and CBS (12 of 70) each had 17 percent skeptics. ACTION: Please urge ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS to broaden the sources they rely on in coverage of the Iraq crisis. CONTACT: ABC World News Tonight Phone: 212-456-4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CBS Evening News Phone: 212-975-3691 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NBC Nightly News Phone: 212-664-4971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PBS NewsHour with Jim Lehrer Phone: 703-998-2150 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no
[CTRL] Attack on Iraq Begins
-Caveat Lector- More breaking stories: http://news.google.com/news?num=30hl=enscoring=dq=baghdadbtnG=Search+News http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56752-2003Mar19.html By DAVID ESPO The Associated Press Wednesday, March 19, 2003; 10:13 PM The United States launched a military strike against Iraq on Wednesday night after President Bush's deadline for Saddam Hussein to surrender power passed unheeded. The opening stages of the disarmament of the Iraqi regime have begun, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said. Bush planned to address the nation at 10:15 p.m. EST, little more than two hours after the deadline the president set for Saddam Hussein to flee his nation or face war. Fleischer spoke as anti-aircraft fire and explosions were heard across Baghdad after air raid sirens went off at the capital at dawn. An American-led invasion force of 300,000 troops awaited the order to strike. U.S. and British forces massed in the Kuwaiti desert close to the Iraqi border, giant B-52 warplanes were loaded with bombs and Tomahawk missile-carrying ships were in position, all awaiting an attack order from Bush. The deadline came at 8 p.m. EST, which was 4 a.m. Thursday in Baghdad, its population shrunken in recent days by an exodus of thousands of fearful residents. The disarmament of the Iraqi regime will begin at a time of the president's choosing, said his press secretary, Ari Fleischer, moments after 8 p.m. The American people are ready for the disarmament of Saddam Hussein. They understand what's at stake. The military is ready, the nation is ready and the cause is just. Just after the deadline, White House chief of staff Andrew Card informed the president that intelligence officials had no information that Saddam had left Iraq. Saddam's regime gave every appearance of digging in. In the minutes after the deadline, Iraqi TV showed footage of a pro-Saddam march Tuesday in Baghdad, with members of the crowd chanting pro-Saddam slogans, some brandishing rifles and carrying pictures of Saddam. We are dedicated to martyrdom in defense of Iraq under your leadership, a loyal Iraqi parliament assured the Iraqi dictator, and armed members of the ruling Baath party deployed behind hundreds of sandbagged defensive positions in Baghdad. Even so, 17 Iraqi soldiers surrendered to American GIs during the day, eager to give up before the shooting started. Bush met periodically throughout the day with his top aides at the White House and sent formal notice to Congress that reliance on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone would not suffice to counter the continuing threat posed by Iraq. Fleischer, said the nation ought to be prepared for the loss of American lives once the military effort begins to depose Saddam and recover weapons of mass destruction. Aides said the commander in chief would decide on timing based on the advice of his military commanders. More than 25 protesters were arrested outside the White House, part of a larger group of demonstrators that chanted, banged drums and carried signs that read, Stop the War on Iraq. It seemed unlikely in the extreme. Along with the U.S.-led force approaching 300,000 troops massed in the Persian Gulf region were 1,000 combat aircraft and five aircraft carrier battle groups. The United States claims the public and private support of 45 other nations in a coalition to topple Saddam. But only Britain, with about 40,000 troops, was making a sizable contribution to the military force. In a run-up to war, U.S. aircraft also dropped nearly 2 million leaflets over southern Iraq with a variety of messages, including, for the first time, instructions to Iraqi troops on how to capitulate to avoid being killed. Hundreds of miles away, at an air base in England, crews loaded bombs aboard giant B-52 combat aircraft. Apart from the desire to capture weapons of mass destruction, Bush's submission to Congress said a military attack could lead to the discovery of information that would allow the apprehension of terrorists living in the United States. An attack, it said, is a vital part of the international war on terrorism. Despite deep divisions at the United Nations, Bush also claimed the authority - indeed, given the dangers involved, the duty - to use force against Iraq to protect the security of the American people and to compel compliance with United Nations resolutions. The diplomatic wheels turned still at the United Nations where foreign ministers were meeting in the Security Council at the request of the French and Germans, prominent critics of the American military operation. This is a sad day for the United Nations, said the organization's secretary general, Kofi Annan said. I know that millions of people around the world share this sense of disappointment and are deeply alarmed. Bush abandoned diplomacy on Monday, and administration officials blamed French intransigence for the lack of consensus on a new Security Council
[CTRL] Bush Administration to Propose System for Monitoring Internet
-Caveat Lector- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articlle2312.htm Bush Administration to Propose System for Monitoring Internet By JOHN MARKOFF and JOHN SCHWARTZ The Bush administration is planning to propose requiring Internet service providers to help build a centralized system to enable broad monitoring of the Internet and, potentially, surveillance of its users. The proposal is part of a final version of a report, "The National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace," set for release early next year, according to several people who have been briefed on the report. It is a component of the effort to increase national security after the Sept. 11 attacks. The President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board is preparing the report, and it is intended to create public and private cooperation to regulate and defend the national computer networks, not only from everyday hazards like viruses but also from terrorist attack. Ultimately the report is intended to provide an Internet strategy for the new Department of Homeland Security. Such a proposal, which would be subject to Congressional and regulatory approval, would be a technical challenge because the Internet has thousands of independent service providers, from garage operations to giant corporations like American Online, ATT, Microsoft and Worldcom. The report does not detail specific operational requirements, locations for the centralized system or costs, people who were briefed on the document said. While the proposal is meant to gauge the overall state of the worldwide network, some officials of Internet companies who have been briefed on the proposal say they worry that such a system could be used to cross the indistinct border between broad monitoring and wiretap. Stewart Baker, a Washington lawyer who represents some of the nation's largest Internet providers, said, "Internet service providers are concerned about the privacy implications of this as well as liability," since providing access to live feeds of network activity could be interpreted as a wiretap or as the "pen register" and "trap and trace" systems used on phones without a judicial order. Mr. Baker said the issue would need to be resolved before the proposal could move forward. Tiffany Olson, the deputy chief of staff for the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, said yesterday that the proposal, which includes a national network operations center, was still in flux. She said the proposed methods did not necessarily require gathering data that would allow monitoring at an individual user level. But the need for a large-scale operations center is real, Ms. Olson said, because Internet service providers and security companies and other online companies only have a view of the part of the Internet that is under their control. "We don't have anybody that is able to look at the entire picture," she said. "When something is happening, we don't know it's happening until it's too late." The government report was first released in draft form in September, and described the monitoring center, but it suggested it would likely be controlled by industry. The current draft sets the stage for the government to have a leadership role. The new proposal is labeled in the report as an "early-warning center" that the board says is required to offer early detection of Internet-based attacks as well as defense against viruses and worms. But Internet service providers argue that its data-monitoring functions could be used to track the activities of individuals using the network. An official with a major data services company who has been briefed on several aspects of the government's plans said it was hard to see how such capabilities could be provided to government without the potential for real-time monitoring, even of individuals. "Part of monitoring the Internet and doing real-time analysis is to be able to track incidents while they are occurring," the official said. The official compared the system to Carnivore, the Internet wiretap system used by the F.B.I., saying: "Am I analogizing this to Carnivore? Absolutely. But in fact, it's 10 times worse. Carnivore was working on much smaller feeds and could not scale. This is looking at the whole Internet." One former federal Internet security official cautioned against drawing conclusions from the information that is available so far about the Securing Cyberspace report's conclusions. Michael Vatis, the founding director of the National Critical Infrastructure Protection Center and now the director of the Institute for Security Technology Studies at Dartmouth, said it was common for proposals to be cast in the worst possible light before anything is actually known about the technology that will be used or the legal framework within which it will function. "You get a firestorm created before anybody knows what, concretely, is being proposed," Mr. Vatis said. A technology that is deployed without the proper
[CTRL] Something interesting I found....
-Caveat Lector- This is just a reply I made on worldnetdaily's message board you might think it's interesting ___ I just got finished flipping through Time/Life's "The American Spirit"... the big glossy 911 special Edition thingy. Out of it's 128 pages that comprised 162 pictures (front back covers not incl.), there was only ONE picture of the Pentagon, and only ONE picture of the Pa. Crash scene. Now get this. the pentagon pic was POST rebuilding, and the Pa. pic was take LONG after all the grass in the field had grown back and the (missing) wreckage removed. Now I wonder why they didn't include crash photo's of those two sites? It must be because I couldn't see a single airplane part anywhere. But on the other hand there were 27 pictures of wtc in ruins, which we know planes indeed hit. So they try to re-tramatize me with all these pictures lest I forget,... then omit 2/3rds of the crash scenes.interesting. There were 57 flags in pictures... So the priority is 1) Be Patriotic ...so you will be 2) retramatized by the wreckage of wtc and 3)learn toput in the back of your mind 2/3rds of the crash scenes that planes wreckage wasn't found in. You think? Lol A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Top White House anti-terror boss resigns
-Caveat Lector- http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030319-040543-3049r Top White House anti-terror boss resigns By P. Mitchell Prothero From the Washington Politics Policy Desk Published 3/19/2003 5:37 PM View printer-friendly version WASHINGTON, March 19 (UPI) -- The top National Security Council official in the war on terror resigned this week for what a NSC spokesman said were personal reasons, but intelligence sources say the move reflects concern that the looming war with Iraq is hurting the fight against terrorism. Rand Beers would not comment for this article, but he and several sources close to him are emphatic that the resignation was not a protest against an invasion of Iraq. But the same sources, and other current and former intelligence officials, described a broad consensus in the anti-terrorism and intelligence community that an invasion of Iraq would divert critical resources from the war on terror. Beers has served as the NSC's senior director for counter-terrorism only since August. The White House said Wednesday that he officially remains on the job and has yet to set a departure date. Hardly a surprise, said one former intelligence official. We have sacrificed a war on terror for a war with Iraq. I don't blame Randy at all. This just reflects the widespread thought that the war on terror is being set aside for the war with Iraq at the expense of our military and intel resources and the relationships with our allies. A Senate Intelligence Committee staffer familiar with the resignation agreed that it was not a protest against the war against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein but confirmed that frustration is widespread in the anti-terror establishment and played a part in Beers' decision. Randy said that he was 'just tired' and did not have an interest in adding the stress that would come with a war with Iraq, the source said. The source said that the concern by the administration about low morale in the intelligence community led national security adviser Condoleezza Rice to ask Beers twice during an exit interview whether the resignation was a protest against the war with Iraq. The source said that although Beers insisted it was not, the tone of the interview concerned Rice enough that she felt she had to ask the question twice. This is a very intriguing decision (by Beers), said author and intelligence expert James Bamford. There is a predominant belief in the intelligence community that an invasion of Iraq will cause more terrorism than it will prevent. There is also a tremendous amount of embarrassment by intelligence professionals that there have been so many lies out of the administration -- by the president, (Vice President Dick) Cheney and (Secretary of State Colin) Powell -- over Iraq. Bamford cited a recent address by President Bush that cited documents, which allegedly proved Iraq was continuing to pursue a nuclear program, that were later shown to be forgeries. It is absurd that the president of the United States mentioned in a speech before the world information from phony documents and no one got fired, Bamford said. That alone has offended intelligence professionals throughout the services. But some involved in the fight on terror said that it was dangerous to look too far into one resignation -- particularly from an official who has not blamed the war on Iraq. I found his resignation shocking, said one official closely involved in the domestic fight on terror. And it might reflect a certain frustration over the allocation of resources. But I'm not positive that there's a consensus (among intelligence services) that deposing Saddam's regime is a bad idea for fighting terror. I think that there are serious concerns about resources and alienating allies, but some of us see an upside. But others point out that the CIA warned Congress last year that an invasion might lead to a rise in terrorism. This, they say, is evidence there's more than just ambivalence about the war among the spy community. If it was your job to prevent terror attacks, would you be happy about an action that many see as unnecessary, that is almost guaranteed to cause more terror in the short-term? said one official. I know I'm not (happy). Beers joined the NSC in August after heading the State Department's International Narcotics and Law Enforcement branch, where he ran the Plan Colombia program to fight narco-traffickers in that country. Beers served both Bush administrations as well as serving in similar capacities with both the Clinton and Reagan administrations. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum
[CTRL] Makow: Déjà Jew All Over Again
-Caveat Lector- http://www.savethemales.ca/ Déjà Jew All Over Again By Henry Makow Ph.D. March 20, 2003 Who said the following? "Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way, for they will be among the first to feel its consequences. The greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government." Charles Lindbergh delivered these words in a famous speech in Des Moines Sept. 11, 1941. But if you substitute "TV" for "radio", Pat Buchanan or Congressman James Moran could have delivered it yesterday. Why is history beginning to sound like a broken record? Because it is unfolding according to a prepared script. For more than 100 years a small Satan-loving cabal consisting of British Aristocrats, Jewish financiers and the Rockefeller-Morgan cartels has been plotting to overthrow Western (Christian) Civilization and monopolize all wealth. They plan to establish a global tyranny, a new world order disguised with terms like "peace" and "brotherhood." This is the Anglo American Establishment and its existence has been documented in works like Professor Caroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope" (1966). I am not sure whether the British elite is using the Jewish bankers or vice versa. I tend to think they are interlocking networks. In any case, they run England and the United States and are responsible for Communism, Zionism and, of course, the Iraq war, which will install Israel as the regional overseer. Israel's Mossad secret service (Motto: "To wage war by way of deception") pursued this policy for decades. In 1994 former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky wrote that Mossad's "overall goal" was to get "the West to do its bidding." "The Mossad leaders knew that if they could make Saddam appear bad enough and a threat to the Gulf oil supply, of which he'd been the protector up to that point, then the United States and its allies would take measures that would all but eliminate his army and his weapons potential, especially if they were led to believe that this might be their last chance before he went nuclear." ("The Other Side of Deception" p.254) Now think of the five Mossad agents arrested Sept. 11 celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Centre. "SERVICE TO THE JEWS" It's easier to succeed if your friends are bankers. In 1896 Adolph Ochs purchased The New York Times with loans from several Jewish businessmen including Jacob Schiff, an investment banker and Jewish leader. The backers "made it clear that they wanted Adolph to succeed because they believed 'he could be of great service to the Jews generally.'" (The Trust: The Private and Powerful Family Behind the New York Times, 1999, pp.37-38) The same Jacob Schiff was the Rothschilds' agent and funded the Rockefellers. He financed the Bolshevik revolution by giving $20 million to Leon Trotsky and his 263 Jewish revolutionaries from New York's Lower East Side. Jews made up 4/5 of the Bolshevik leadership. Communism was/is an instrument of their new world order. The same cabal bought the Washington Post and controls U.S. TV and movies. The American public is like a giant that is blindfolded, drugged and gagged. The giant has earplugs and is lead around by the nose. Throughout history, Jews have been expelled from one country after another because of anti Semitism, which they define as an "irrational hatred" endemic in non-Jews. The real reason is hidden from Jews like myself. Wherever they went, some prominent Jews alienated the host population and ruined it for the rest. They created anti Semitism by their business practises, exclusivity, disloyalty, disrespect or because they tried to undermine Christianity, control and change society. There is no question that Jewish groups pursued a political agenda. I refer you to Professor Kevin MacDonald 's "Separation and its Discontents," (1998) "The Culture of Critique" (2002) and Professor Albert Lindemann's "Essau's Tears: Modern Anti Semitism and the Rise of the Jews" (1997). People who attribute all opposition to this agenda to anti Semitism are morally unctuous, self-deluded, and passive aggressive. By dehumanizing their opponents as hate mongers, they actually provoke the intense hatreds that lead to mayhem. People don't hate without reason. If they are treated with respect, people respond accordingly. World War Two was partly a legitimate attempt on the part of Germans to resist Jewish control. Although Jews represented only 1% of the German population, they dominated key economic sectors, the media and professions. Communism (which the Nazis saw as a Jewish proxy) represented a serious political threat, both domestic and foreign. On the other hand, the Nazis also had a barbaric plan to rule the world. Dedicated to Aryan racial supremacy, they murdered six million Poles and planned to enslave all Slavs. The same Anglo American
[CTRL] THE PERFECT STORM - Part I
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031903_perfect_storm_1.html -- But for added amusement, George W. Bush and his friends used to tuck firecrackers into the mouths of frogs, throw them in the air, and watch them explode. [Linda McQuaig, Don't let Bush light Iraq fire (12-15-2002) - The Toronto Star - a story told by a childhood friend described in a New York Times profile for the 2000 election campaign.] http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-3nov2000-frogs.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om