[CTRL] Test (Delete if you see this)
Just testing if im still on the list... --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: An Analysis of Democracy by Anthony Wayne
I call it Dumb-Ox-racy,to anyone who will listen. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] Fwd: [CTRL] Gunderson
Glad to see you explain it all so succinctly and clearly. Keep up the good work. - Well Nessie the Franklin Coverup is straight from the Garden of Eden - which was the biggest coverup since CYA Club originated many many centuries ago. So skeletons in the closet - skull and bones and everybody is having a coming out party? Sex sells - corruption sells - homosexuals hiding in closets sells - everything sells but Good News... I only know such a title - I Was A Sex Slave for Dick Cheney - like Marilyn Monroe - I Tried To Put the Make On Albert Einstein or little Monica.I Led Three Lives - Mossad Prostitute, Pentagon Prostitute, and Clinton Whore of Month for Hugh Heffner. Did she ever make Playboy Yet? How about I was a sex slave for Alber Schweitzer, or by Mother Theresa - well better forget that one. Nessie - I am still trying to prove Lieberman is a front man for the mob..trying to figure out who gave the kiss of death to Gore - Bush or Lieberman? Gonna be some exits pretty soon. So look at Pat Buchannan - Black Vice President Candidae - soon, this lady will say I Was A Real Sex Slave for God Knows What. And she would have the credentials to prove that. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bill Clinton is suffering from a sexually-transmitteddisease.
These claims about Clinton aren't new. There was a suggestion (I don't know if it was backed by anything except supposition) that he had HIV becasue he didn't have proper penetrative intercourse with Monica. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fiction is stranger than truth?
You do realise that this is a game, material for the Call of Cthulhu RPG? Delta Green is a 1990's setting with a heavy government consiracy angle (a la X files). It's not a bad game, but if you're feeling really paranoid about games why not check out the Dark Conspiracy Webring http://www.42north.org/DarkRing/ --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Australian citizenship.
How is it possible? You tell me. Strange things seem to happen involving Jews and U.S. citizenship. Item: Martin Indyk was an Australian citizen at the beginning of the Clinton administration. Then he turned up as the U. S. Ambassador to Israel. Can a U.S. Ambassador to another country NOT be a U.S. citizen? Is Martin Indyk now a U.S. citizen? If so, when did he become a U.S. citizen? Did he give up his Australian citizenship? You think that's strange, you should see what happens here in Australia. The Australian Constitution is quite clear that no-one who owes allegiance to a foreign crown is eligible to sit in Parliament. As some countries (noticeably I think Greece and maybe Italy) don't allow their citizens to renounce their citizenship, it is considered OK if the member makes a statutory declaration that they don't want to be a citizen anymore and gives it to the embassy or high commission of their country. However roughly a third of Australian MPs admit they are citizens of one country or another. The only MP in recent times to lose their seat as a result of this was from the small populist One Nation party, which surprised a lot of people by disqualifying the candidate bercasue she was a British citizen. The law here is very selective and crooked, it's like some crooked small town government spread across an entire vast continent. Our former PM Bob Hawke, Rhodes Scholar and notorious drunk, held an (honorary) citizenship of Israel while he was PM. Did he stand down? What do you think. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Paedophile uproad in UK linked to far-right.
From the Electronic Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003038683162729rtmo=kNNe1q1patmo=g3MKpg=/et/00/8/13/npaed13.html A FAR-RIGHT group with links to the National Front is organising demonstrations against suspected paedophiles. The National Democrats, a group founded by former members of the National Front, has set up a website called Paedophile Watch to "out" suspected child abusers with leaflets and demonstrations. The site, which also lists newspaper reports containing the names and addresses of convicted sex offenders, may also be linked with Antimatter, the anti-paedophile group whose campaign prompted riots and led to innocent men being driven from their homes. Police have been investigating the group after letters wrongly identified two men in South London as child sex offenders. The organisation gave out leaflets to neighbours of Michael Horgan, of Brockley, and Victor Terry of Croydon, neither of whom have criminal records. Both are namesakes of two other men, also from South London, named as paedophiles by the News of the World. Last night a reporter posing as a member of the public contacted the Paedophile Watch number posted on the website and was told that if he supplied a paedophile's name, address and details, leaflets could be distributed near the abuser's home. The male voice on the end of the telephone, who refused to give his identity said: "We obviously want to help anyone who has a child abuser living nearby. If you give me the details we will check it out." Police are studying the group's letters, which read: "A paedophile is in your area. Thanks to the News of the World we can now target this man." The person's address, telephone number and alleged offences were also given. The tactics bear the hallmarks of far-Right groups, according to Mike Whine, of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, who said said that such organisations were quick to jump on the bandwagon and whip up violent sentiments in the hope of recruiting new members. Mr Whine said: "The National Democrats have been at the forefront of this move and organised demonstrations against paedophiles two years' ago. The anti-paedophile groups share members and information on child abusers and the National Democrats may well be connected to Antimatter." The News of the World campaign, which has so far led to five innocent people being hounded as sex offenders, comes at a time when ministers are being forced to remove thousands of names from the sex offenders' registers because of the new Human Rights Act. The legislation, which seeks to incorporate the European Convention on Human Rights into British law from October 2, states that all citizens have the right to privacy unless this is outweighed by other grounds, such as protecting the public from criminals. The move to drop names follows warnings that the register of 110,000 names will be declared unlawful under "right to privacy" clauses unless it is urgently amended. The problem arises because, in addition to paedophiles, the present register contains the names of people convicted of what civil rights groups consider "one-off" offences. Home Office insiders last night reassured the public that nobody considered a danger to children would be taken off the register and that the only people likely to be dropped would be those convicted of lesser offences while paedophiles will remain on it. Among those likely to be removed from the register are adults convicted of engaging in consensual sex acts not involving children, such as group homosexual and sado-masochistic acts, and young people involved in underage sex. A review of the register is being carried out and proposals will be unveiled in the autumn. At present all sexual offenders are kept on the list and have to report their whereabouts to local police but John Wadham, the legal director of Liberty, the civil rights pressure group, said that removing some of the names would make the register more effective "because police are obliged at present to keep tabs on a large number of people who pose no danger to children". He said: "I think there are likely to be challenges made by people who are not a threat to children who will argue that the restrictions on their privacy are not justified. It is really an opportunity to make the register better focused on paedophiles and sex offenders who are a real danger to the public." Meanwhile in Austria, Dieter Böhmdorfer, the justice minister, yesterday raised the possibility of his country publicising information about convicted paedophiles, saying it appeared to be the will of the public. Mr Böhmdorfer, from the Right-wing Freedom Party, told Austrian State radio that making such information public could be necessary to protect victims. Saying that such a move could only take place within the context of the country's laws, he said that the information should not have the character of a
[CTRL] Princess Diana spawns mad bombers
from http://www.herald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=147531thesection=newsthesubsection=world Diana anti-mine charity accused of spying 12.08.2000 - MOSCOW - Russia's FSB domestic security service has accused a British anti-landmine charity of teaching Chechen rebels explosives techniques and of spying on Moscow's military. The allegations, which came two days after a bomb killed eight people in a Moscow underpass, were denied by the Halo Trust mine clearance agency, which dubbed them a smear campaign. The trust is linked to the late Diana, Princess of Wales, who started her campaign against landmines in Angola in 1997. A photo of Diana posing for the world's media wearing Halo Trust protective gear became an enduring image of her following her death in a car crash that same year. Some officials have blamed the Moscow bomb on Chechen rebels. The FSB, a successor body to the Soviet-era KGB, said it had "reliable information about the training of mine and explosives experts for armed groups of international terrorists in Chechnya." "One group which is secretly carrying out such operations inside Russia is the international non-governmental organisation, the Halo Trust." The FSB said the trust held courses to train "specialists in mines and explosives" inside rebel Chechnya on Russia's southern rim, and harboured British secret agents. But the charity's director, Guy Willoughby, said the allegations were "a straightforward smear campaign, frankly," "If [the FSB] is trying to link Halo Trust training humanitarian mine clearance to bombs being made, then that's just sad, really; it's stupid." The FSB said it had found 15 Halo Trust workers inside Chechnya last November when searching for rebels as part of its now 11-month-old war against separatist guerrillas in the region. "We have information that most of them are members of various British military structures and the leader, Matthew Middlemiss, is a staff military spy," the FSB said, adding that it was holding an unspecified number of the charity's workers. Willoughby said Middlemiss had worked for the trust briefly but left in 1996. "He has never ever been to Chechnya, nor has he had anything to do with any Halo Trust programme in Chechnya." Willoughby said he had no knowledge of any of the trust's workers being detained. Some staff had formerly worked in the military, but accusations that they gathered military intelligence were untrue. He also denied the possibility of Chechens applying mine clearance training to mine laying. Mine clearers were taught to find the mines and blow them up. "You could say you gain knowledge [of explosives] but it would be a bit like saying that by training someone to pass their driving test, you're training them to be a getaway driver in an armed robbery." Halo said it did not work in Chechnya now and only did so with proper Russian visas and documentation. - REUTERS --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Problem with list
This is the second time in 2 days I have been desubcribed from the list, supposedly becasue my email keeps bouncing back. I am resubscribed again. Doe other people have this problem or is it just me they are harassing? I may need to switch to another email if it happens again. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship andUSACitizenship.
Perhaps he's referring to the citizenship that all Jews can claim of Israel? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Japan Times-Bank Officials Tried To End W.W.II
Bank of International Settlements is, according to Lyndon larouche, the world's biggest criminal bank, essentially the crooked bank's bank, and the 'settlements' are a nice way of laundering black economy cash from drug dealing. In the 40's it probably included cash from gold smuggling, dead jews and war profiteering. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mildly Crude Bush Jokes
What is the difference between George W. Bush and Herpes? 1.) One shot would take care of Bush. 2.) There was herpes in Vietnam. 3.) Herpes is not a hereditary illness. 4.) Herpes is not a leading cause of death in Texas prisons. 5.) Four years of Bush will have you remembering four years of herpes fondly. 6.) Herpes usually follows a successful drilling. (Bush oil-company joke) 7.) Difference? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bandwidth hogging
Could I just make one post today and make one suggestion for people who make dozens of posts a day? Either A) don't post stuff which isn't particularly interesting or relevant (I think anything short of little green men involving the RNC comes under this category) or; B) COndense it all into one big post, something like 'Mike's Daily Updates' which people can read through or turf out as they please or C) start a weblog (such as mine at http://leviathan.weblogs.com) where you can post this sort of stuff and build up a readership without clogging everybody's emails and restricting what others can post. I remember the bad old days before the 100 a day posting limit, when there were one or more provocateurs who posted dozens of messages from a white-power perspective, then when they were criticised posted hundreds more defending themselves and abusing the idiots who insisted on posting smart-alec one line replies. I believe when the 100 a day limit was brought in a 10 post per subscriber per day was also brought in. Maybe this should be re-instituted? Just some thoughts from someone who recently rejoined the list after about 2 years away. BTW maybe Kris Millegan could take some criticism in this respect? Out of all the stuff (he/she?) posts, much of it my browser won't let me read becasue it has attachments and a lot of it could be condensed into one page with a bunch of links and maybe a short description. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bohemian Grove 1991
This Bohemian Club is new styled Hells Fire Club which is comprised of not only the intelligensia but the bankers and the big business boys. It's called a country club. Like a masonic lodge you will be shocked to find that community leaders, judges, university bigwigs, policemen, businessmen are all members. I really don't know why you find thir existence astonishing. If you want something akin to the hellfire clubs, try going to a sex-club or bondage club like that one in Boston. In fact (I don't have the link but Im sure you can find it) the Boston Dungeon Society has a most interesting webpage on the subject. What bothers me is this - the old Club were pretty honest in their dealings and today we have a criminal element taking over using dirty money laundered by fronts.I think Ted Turner is one of these fronts. If you think the old ones were 'pretty honest' I think you should read up on them a bit more. The crookedness of modern fraternal clubs is no new modern invention. If anything they are far less crooked nowadays. And are you suggesting that money launderers are using private clubs for...what? Having lunch. Money laundering is done through banks, either directly or indirectly. Who profits in a war? Can people today tell a lie from the truth? Do they really care anymore for look how many people do not vote, more than do vote and here is the secret of their success. Who do you think? The arms dealers profit. A lot of this stuff is as plain as day, anyone that doesn't realise these things as self evident is in cloud-cuckoo land. You can be sure political parties who have workers on government payrolls, these pepole will vote and many are protected by Hatch Act and yet now the union controlled by CFR (AFSCME) gets into the act, they will contribute your money whether you like it or not, to CFR. Are you suggesting that unions put money into politics? Golly gosh. There's a good book you should read, called The Bosses (I forget the author). It's about the US political bosses of this century and how they operated. As far as the CFR goes, I would be surprised if they are a big budget outfit. If anything they probably put money into this union, all the members are supposed to be so rich. One thing I always remembered, story of how these people operate using Mollie McGuires who took on owners of coal mines. The Mollies went to the gallows with red roses pinned on their lapelsand it was said: "All Mollies were Hibernians, but not all Hibernians were Mollies"...rings and rings, and at the bottom of ladder - well let us say need to know basis and at the top is where the elite, meet? So you're suggesing the Pennsylvania miners et. al were being manipulated by who? The illuminati? Bolsheviks? If so, they did a pretty poor job. I think the Molly McGuires were an essentially grassroots labor response to the terrible working conditions. Similar things happened in Ballarat (Australia) during the Eureka Stockade rebellion, in Ireland at various times, in India, anywhere workers were exploited as badly. The point is that both these groups of miners lost militarily, and essentially politically. Today we have a criminal element in control of our government - this thing called Mafia deposes the elite and we are left with murder inc running the country. It's just a shift change. As someone mentioned, the two most crooked organised-crime linked US presidents this century were Reagan and Nixon. Sure, JFK cut deals with the Mob but Reagan was supposed to be on the board. The Mafia you think of is run at top levels by the FBI. When JFK was shot, it is impossible to discount totally the theory that the Texas Governor was the real target, just as when Chicago mayor Anton Cernak was shot dead by an assassin in the company of the President, many people make the mistake of thinking that FDR was the target when in fact it was another gangster hit. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Bohemian Grove 1991
I just have to say something about this. The pictures that go with this story at infowar and the conclusions some people seem to draw from them are astoundingly stupid. Those blurry photographs apparently show a group of hooded figures doing some sort of KKK type ritual. From this they conclude that the leaders of the free world et all are worshipping some sort of owl god. There is absoloutly no evidence, the pictures are so bad that even if they weren't hooded you couldn't tell if they were mannequins. It reminds me of a photograph published some years ago, showing a shifty looking man in sunglasses standing at the back of a lorry. The heading was 'Conclusive proof of Prince Charles' Nazi Connections'. The book was put out by The Goodies BTW. Judge for yourselves, the pics are at http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html BTW if you weren't referring to these pics, I apologise. i wouldn't be surprised if this is some agitprop to make the whole thing look ludicrous and stifle real examination. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mad cow disease can't be ruled out in U.S., Canada,EU says
According to an article in the Irish Independant, CJD et al may be passed to others via dentists. Thank Bob I don't go to dentists, my brain is inflamed enough as it is. The reference is http://www.independent.ie/2000/215/d06a.shtml --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] OT: I need help regrading the phrase,The whole nine yards.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the term 'the whole nine yards'? Which I believe is a US football reference? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cereal maker chokes on CD Bible giveaway (fwd)
The bible here was part of a package of stuff on the CDs, it wasn't just a NIV bible in every box of whatever. Also, I doubt many Christians are going to stop buying them becasue they get a free CD in their cereal box. BTW, assuming Christians already have one, who buys these darn wastes of paper? Not Government schools presumably, I'm sure they mostly end up getting pulped making it some sort of scam. Any thoughts? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pro-Choice Van Runs Over Pro-Lifer (fwd)
Well, maybe the person in the van took exception to the stickers they were sticking on his van, and taught them a lesson they won't soon forget? If you were in your van and someone started putting swastikas (or stars of David, or Confederate flags or whatever you find offensive) all over it, tell me you wouldn't at least give them a scare. I sure as hell would. --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Castillo Addresses the House Select Committeeo#8230;
The way I see it, every few years in Italy and the USA they have these huge trials where they convict the supposed head of organised crime. It's strange though, the number of times the 'head of organised crime' seems to be an illiterate peasant farmer or dementia-prone old man who wanders the streets in his dressing gown mumbling to himself. Are the real criminals just having a farcical show trial to make the bourgeoise media-watching sheeple believe that government and organised crime are 2 seperate and warring parties? --- Move to a better address --- + today freemail + http://www.today.com.au A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
