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Re: [CTRL] Is Willie SHANNON utterly deranged?

2000-09-26 Thread Dano


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...and hooray if he is (utterly deranged), and may his lunacy
contribute to the rest of the nonsensical ravings posted on CTRL.

Go get 'em Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Ted Nugent Speaks out on Gun Rights

2000-09-21 Thread Dano


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Who cares what Mr. Nugent has to say?
After all he is "just a guitar player".

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Re: [CTRL] OT: Scientists conclusively I.D. Christ's fingerprint

2000-09-13 Thread Dano

nessie wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> >
> >A finger print recovered from a 2000 year old silver chalice was
> >"almost certainly" left behind by Jesus of Nazereth, a top expert
> >says.
>
> If you believe that, I have a great deal for you on a nail from the True
> Cross.

I neither believe or disbelieve the claim, just note that someone has
made it, let me digress;

Earlier this year the Vatican (that purveyor of spiritual truth)
released some gibberish and passed it of as the long awaited
3rd secret of Fatima.

Now a few months later the Virgin Mary is appearing in Egypt, the Pope
(bless his heart) is excising the devil from some 19 year old Italian
girl in the Vatican and now this chalice finger print of Jesus story.

These 'things' all speak for themselves but, anyone see a pattern here?

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Re: [CTRL] the announcement

2000-07-18 Thread Dano

Kris Millegan wrote:
>
> from:alt.conspiracy
> As, always, Caveat Lector
> Om
> K
> -
> Click Here: the announcement >
> -
> Subject: the announcement
> From: The Guy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2000 8:05 PM
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> the government is planning an announcement
> it is to an earth shattering announcement
> it will top human achievement in knowledge for the start of the new millennium
> all the planning to date
> for over a hundred years
> martial law plans are also set ready...in case the announcement goes bad
>
> they will us that
> aliens are real, they exist, they are here
> -

Will that be before or after the comet hits?

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Re: [CTRL] FW: JFK JR.'S FINAL FLIGHT--BLASTED OUT OF THE SKY

2000-07-07 Thread Dano


Perhaps a dry ice bullet?

nessie wrote:
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> >they never reported the bullet through Brown's head
>
> There was no bullet through Brown's head. There was a.45 caliber hole in
> the top of his skull, but no exit hole was found. Neither was a slug
> found. This is not physically possible to achieve with a .45 caliber slug.
> There has been speculation that it was instead the result of one of those
> gizmos which slaughterhouses use to kill cattle. The name of the device
> slips my mind; help me out here. But a .45 caliber slug ALWAYS comes out
> the other side of a head. It leaves a considerably bigger exit hole than
> it does an entrance hole.
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Re: [CTRL] Montessori (was: 'We Must Take America Back/Education)

2000-07-07 Thread Dano


I don't know who or what Montessori is, but I do know that here in the
community which I live, the "Montessori School" was recently closed
by the State of New Hampshire apparently because of allegations of some
kind of abuse. Also some parents of students of the "Montessori School"
are very unhappy about the closing charging the State is interfering
with the choice of where their children will attend school.

Could this "Montessori School" closure be politically motivated?!

 Dano

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[CTRL] US high court overturns Branch Davidians' sentences

2000-06-08 Thread Dano


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Supreme Court overturned Monday  the
 long prison sentences for five Branch
 Davidians for using  machine guns during
 a shootout with federal agents in 1993 at
  the cult's compound near Waco, Texas.


 The unanimous high court, in an opinion
 by Justice Stephen  Breyer, said a federal judge had
been
 wrong to use a federal  firearm law to increase their
 sentences. Breyer said the jury  should have considered
 the matter.

 Under the law, Breyer said the type of weapon, such as
a
  machine gun, used during a violent crime was an
element
 of an  offense to be decided by the jury and was not a
 sentencing  factor to be determined by the judge.

 Four federal agents and three Branch Davidians were
 killed  during the Feb. 28, 1993, shootout that started
 when federal  agents tried to arrest cult leader David
 Koresh. A standoff  developed, and 51 days later Koresh
 and about 80 followers died  in a fire after agents
injected
 tear gas into the building.

 Nine Branch Davidians who escaped were arrested and
 then put  on trial.

 Jaime Castillo, Brad Branch, Renos Avraam and Kevin
  Whitecliff received consecutive terms of 10 years in
 prison for  manslaughter and 30 years for using machine
 guns during a  violent crime. Graeme Craddock received
 10 years for using a  grenade and a consecutive 10
years
 for using a machine gun.

 The firearm law imposes a five-year sentence but allows
a
  10-year term if the weapon was a semiautomatic firearm
 and a  30-year term for use of a machine gun or
grenade.


 The ruling sends the case back to the judge for a new
  sentencing.

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Re: [CTRL] Eureka! Scientists break speed of light

2000-06-04 Thread Dano

K wrote:
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> http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/04/stifgnusa01007.html
>
> June 4 2000
> UNITED STATES
>
> Eureka! Scientists break speed of light
>
> Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
>
> SCIENTISTS claim they have broken the ultimate speed barrier: the
> speed of light.
>

Stupid stupid scientists. All they have done is discovered that
they were wrong about something else. Suprise Suprise!!

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Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

2000-05-17 Thread Dano


May I suggest Jim, that perhaps the problem is in your machine and
not with the emails? Was it on this list the other day where someone
suggested a deep format of the hard drive should be performed
every so oftenI do exactly that...purge the junk!!!


Jim Condit Jr wrote:
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> What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL email that
> froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
> identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email froze
> me up under the name "William Shannon" --
>
> I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer" emails as
> being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up begins to
> happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing anyone, I
> just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've lost
> hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out the
> whole situation, probably days.
>
> Since I've heard nothing, I've alerted fuse.net and they are going to
> analyze a few of the "freeze up" emails. I also have a techie on this end
> who is interested in the phenomenon. Has Kris Millegan or anyone else found
> out anything? One other person on the list did email in that he was having a
> similar problem with "Bill Richer" emails. Is anyone else having continual
> email freezeups. I repeat, I am and have been on other far less
> sophisticated services than fuse net, and they have NEVER had a problem with
> this; of course, I've never subscribed to the CTRL list from those sites.
> Can anyone help resolve this? Jim Condit Jr.
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Re: [CTRL] Something to Think About...

2000-04-30 Thread Dano

Something to Think About...

  > Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani wrote:

  > When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, the
need
  > for both acceptance,and understanding becomes glaringly apparent.

  > -
  > Everybody is an enemy...

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[CTRL] Rothschild Scion Dies On Sidewalk

2000-04-29 Thread Dano


http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Rothschild000429.html

The Associated Press
N E W  Y O R K, April 29 A scion of the
internationally known Rothschild family
collapsed on a Manhattan sidewalk and died of
an apparent drug overdose following a
downtown party, officials said.

 Authorities said Raphael de Rothschild, 23, died on
the afternoon of April 22 outside a Chelsea loft. William
Corbin, a friend of Rothschild, was later arrested and
charged with heroin possession, according to police.
Corbin has denied any involvement in the death.
Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for the city medical
examiner, said toxicology results were pending. But a
police source told the New York Daily News, We have
little doubt he died of a drug overdose.

Familys Fame Spans Centuries

Like the Rockefellers in the United States, the Rothschilds
played a major role in French business and culture. They
helped make Paris one of the most significant financial
capitals in Europe, and are famed for their wineries in the
Bordeaux region, including the barons Chateau Clark.

The family gained prominence by financing such
massive projects as European railroads and the British
military campaign that led to the final defeat of Napoleon
Bonaparte at Waterloo in June 1815.

With their vast wealth, they acquired first-rate art and
period furnishings, much of which has been donated to
French museums like the Louvre. The current generation
of the family expanded to both London and New York.

Raphaels father, Nathaniel de Rothschild, heads an $8
billion financial services company.

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Re: [CTRL] The MYTH of EVOLUTION - SCIENTISTS SPEAK!

2000-04-20 Thread Dano


No religion nor science here...just common sense.
As I read the Origin of Species, I quickly realized what
Darwin was explaining is micro evolution. Adaptation, as well
as natural selection neither of which provide a satisfactory
explanation how we go from microorganisms to complex, so-called,
higher life forms...Macro evolution.

So what we got here are two diametrically opposing views:

 creationism vs. evolution

It is painfully obvious that BOTH lack sufficient detail
to ascertain accuracy.

There are 3 sides to every story, your's, mine and the truth.

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[CTRL] The Theory of Unlimited Oil

2000-03-20 Thread Dano


-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

http://www.abcnews.go.com/onair/CloserLook/wnt_000316_CL_oilheretic_feature.html

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Re: [CTRL] Is your computer being used remotely by hackers?

2000-02-10 Thread Dano


-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Except for Windows NT, you have described a result very similar to
mine with the Norton Antivirus program.

Steve Wingate wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Definitely!!! I would highly recommend against using Norton Antivirus
> especially if you are using Windows NT. It really messed up my computer.
> Had to completely reinstall the operating system. I consulted the Norton
> web page and followed their directions for uninstalling, but the problem
> continued. I checked back a few weeks later, and the entire customer forum
> (that contained a discussion of this problem) was removed.
>
> Naturally!  Not good for business.
>
> Norton sucks! I use Network Associates products and have had not
> problems since.
>
> Steve
>
> On 10 Feb 00, at 4:25, Dave wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> >  -Cui Bono?-
> >
> > Regarding the posts farther below on FBI, hacking, security, etc...
> >
> > I recommend that no one use Norton products - I've seen much more difficulty
> > CREATED with them than solved. Probably at least 10 tech support calls in
> > the past year where the customer "installed Norton tools" and started having
> > problems ... solution: remove Norton stuff; problem gone.
> >
> > My computer sits behind a firewall / proxy server, prob'ly this is the
> > reason for the relatively "safe" report below. Even so, it'd be silly to
> > think that anything on computer is "secure."
> > Store all sensitive information on removeable media; make off-site copies.
> > I've also heard from several sources that Macs are considerably less
> > susceptible to "break-ins" ... but what a sacrifice...  ;)
> >
> > (report from http://www.grc.com on my main computer )
> >
> > 
> > Shields UP! is checking YOUR computer's Internet
> > connection security . . . currently located at IP:
> >
> >  208.133.46.39
> >
> > Please Stand By. . .
> >
> >
> >  Attempting connection to your computer. . .
> > Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within
> > your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal
> > computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your
> > knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of
> > your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by
> > anyone, anywhere, on the Internet!
> >  Please Note: On highly secure systems this may take up to one minute. . .
> >  Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
> > One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE!
> > Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered
> > with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to
> > a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR
> > computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which
> > represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine
> > configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and
> > intrusion.
> >  Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
> > All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is
> > very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to
> > vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY
> > SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking
> > protocol over the Internet.
> > *
> >
> >
> > Dave Hartley
> > http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dana Redding
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:26 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ncndiscuss] Fwd: Is your computer being used remotely by
> > hackers?
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Personally when I heard this story, the thought did cross my
> > mind that those FBI goons are at it again trying to make a use
> > for themselves--now they are hacking computers, geez..
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> > Original Message Follows
> > From: Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [MC]  Is your computer being used remotely by hackers?
> >
> > Is your computer being used by hackers remotely to implement the current
> > distributed denial-of-service attack that has paralyzed several large Web
> > sites? Would you know if it were? (Probably not.)
> >
> > Go to www.grc.com and run the Shields Up test to find out how open your
> > computer is to the world. You may be amazed (I was).
> >
> > To be safe from having your privacy violated or your computer being used in
> > such attacks (and thus vulnerable to an FBI investigation), you should
> > install a personal firewall on your computer. Some free products are listed
> > on
> > grc.com.
> > I recommend Norton Internet Security 2000 (not free), which includes Norton
> > Antiviru

Re: [CTRL] McCain May Quit (fwd)

2000-02-07 Thread Dano

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Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

>
> I had noticed that the Republicans are really not wanting him to win  > the 
>nomination, so I figured he might be well advised to quit.

> I wouldn't want him to have the famous engineered heart attack.
>
>  Prudy

Why not? I sure would make for a interesting news cycle considering
how predictable(expected) such an event would be.

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Re: [CTRL] Proof of a Mars/Egypt Connection?...

2000-01-13 Thread Dano


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And today, this from the ABC-News web site:

Are We All From Mars?


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Re: [CTRL] Khazars

2000-01-11 Thread Dano

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William Shannon wrote:
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> You've been sold a bill of goods...there IS no there
> there...Christianity is the longest running scam in history...
> and the Bible the greatest fraud ever sold.

Don't hold back William, tell us how you really feel!!

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Re: [CTRL] Y2K non-event

2000-01-02 Thread Dano


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A 'report' earlier last said only 8 percent of y2k related failures
would occur on January 01, 2000.

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[CTRL] space weather experts say no massive coronal mass ejection

1999-12-31 Thread Dano


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For 3 days now, I have not been able to access the following web site:

   Solar Terrestrial Activity Report

And today I get the below email. Coincidence? Comments anyone?

> =
> NASA Space Science News for Dec. 31, 1999
>
> Planet Busters, Not!:
>
> Despite rumors circulating on the Internet,
> space weather experts say that no massive coronal mass ejection
> is anticipated on New Year's Day. For details visit
>
>   http://SpaceWeather.com
>
> SpaceWeather.com features current solar wind data, daily
> sunspot numbers, the Sunspot of the Day, the latest space
> weather news and more.
>
> http://www.spaceweather.com">link for AOL users
> =

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Re: [CTRL] NZ stuff

1999-12-31 Thread Dano


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I will wait some hours before I interpret anything y2k related.

Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
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>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: "Kathryn R Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > New Zealand Overview of incidents, maps
> > http://www.y2k.govt.nz/home/navigationpage.htm
>
> Well, it's 20 minutes into the new year for New Zealand, but when I just
> checked
> this site, its "Millenium Incident Map" is showing a 12/31/99 date and a
> local
> time of 9pm-something...
>
> I'll leave the interpretation of that to the reader...  ;-)
>
> June
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[CTRL] Yeltsin resigns

1999-12-31 Thread Dano


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http://cnn.com/1999/WORLD/europe/12/31/yeltsin.resigns.02/index.html

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Re: [CTRL] When there IS no martial law/NWO/UN Y2K take over

1999-12-30 Thread Dano

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You mean to say you haven't heard?
'Sources' say "the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA" takeover has been called off.

However I suspect this has no bearing on computer failures, and,
despite the fact that the "Party Line" has clearly been
DENY DENY DENY right to the end, the final outcome of the y2k
computer snafu, has yet to be resolved.

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> --Original Message--
> From: John Hurd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > But what if they are right
>
> A completely valid question. Turnabout is fair play.
> If they are right, then you'll never hear an apology from me. Why? Because
> if these wack jobs *ARE* right, the NWO/UN/ZOG/FEMA whatever will 1) shut
> down e-mail 2) throw me into a "UN concentration camp" 3) kill me or 4) a
> combination of 1-3. In any event, apologies will be out of the question.
> HOWEVER, when it does NOT happen, the e-mails will be up, no one will be in
> "UN concentration camps" and no one will be killed by the NWO or whatever.
> So, THEY have no excuse to not admit they were WRONG.
>
> __

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Re: [CTRL] Signoff CTRL

1999-12-25 Thread Dano


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This list will be diminished by your absence Mr. Goat. Good luck dude.

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[CTRL] Diana as Madonna, link

1999-12-13 Thread Dano


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Diana as Madonna photo:

http://news2.thls.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_555000/555606.stm

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> Some one sent a web site the other day that had the image of Diana as
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Re: [CTRL] Y2K Spoof Flick Goes Awry

1999-11-29 Thread Dano

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YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
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> anyone seen the latest Nike ad?
>
> June ;-)
>

Saw it yesterday...the imagery was vivid, blatant and disturbing.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: (earthclan) FW: Govt-Riot Plan EXPOSED for NY on New Years Eve or a Subversive Filmmakers debut?

1999-11-27 Thread Dano

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> Terry Cox wrote:
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> How can you download and save it, is that possible?

Download the Video:
http://www.angelfire.com/ma/mauicool7/timesq.ram

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[CTRL] Copiers used to Track us? Maybe!

1999-11-22 Thread Dano

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> Kris Millegan wrote:
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> > Can this be confirmed? Is this a true statement by the kinko employee? Any
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The answer from a Xerox repair technician is, "I don't know if that is being done
but with a digital color copy machine, IT IS POSSIBLE."

There you have it folks.

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Re: [CTRL] Are Copiers used to Track us?

1999-11-22 Thread Dano

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> Kris Millegan wrote:
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> > Can this be confirmed? Is this a true statement by the kinko employee? Any
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A very close friend of mine is a "XEROX" copy machine repair technician.
I will question him thoroughly about this issue and post the results.

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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-13 Thread Dano

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Eagle 1 wrote:

> This dialogue in the messages attached is truly amazing...

Yes it is, so don't mind if I stir the pot a little...

> Everyone is entitled to believe as they wish to...

And what of us who are, say, to cynical to know what to believe?

> It is my own personal belief that the ark of the covenant will never
> be found in this earth age, or on the face of this earth
> until God so chooses.

Or until some produces a fake and passes it off as authentic.
Remember, reality is whatever we are told it is.

As for the God of the Bible (perhaps Old Testament only) what I
believe is that it is none other than ET itself, playing God.

> God is not happy with man and man's decisions to follow other gods
> and other doctrines than those He has set forth in His book.

Really...ET, with an attitude?

All this as I glance across the room at my King James...which
brings me back to where I started, faith or cynicism, choose one.

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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #5

1999-11-13 Thread Dano


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> Most of the US has left the "cavity-prone years" thanks to
> water fluoridation.

Hogwash!!! As a child I was force fed fluoride tablets and I would
dutifully brush my teeth every day (btw, I still do) and I still had
plenty of cavities as a child.

My grandfather lived 79 years and still had ALL his original teeth
which is more than I can say for myself only having 24 left.

You can take your fluoride and shove it 'cause it did me no good
whatsoever!!!

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[CTRL] about Strangelove & Iron Mountain

1999-11-09 Thread Dano


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Its been some years since I saw Doctor Strangelove but in the wake of
recent negative publicity fluoride has gotten, I would like to
paraphrase a brief part of that movie:

The renegade wacko general said words to the effect:

"The fluoridation of American water supplies is a communist plot"
as he was grumbling something about bodily fluids.

And at the time I thought to myself, well if it is, nobody will
believe it after that rant.

My point is it doesn't matter if the Report from Iron Mountain
is fact or fiction because the damage is done:

> But the point is that now it's become foundation literature
> among the loony Right who take it very seriously.

People will make decisions based on what they believe, true or not.

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Re: [CTRL] Hoagland Skeptic News - Sunday #1

1999-11-08 Thread Dano


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Andrew Hennessey wrote:

> This rubbish comes on top of his ridiculous allegations

DO NOT misconstrue this question as support of Hoagland and
his lackeys but all things being equal, do you or ANYONE else
have a BETTER explanation of the otherwise inexplicable?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/egyptair.htm

--
In the information age, truth is hard to come by...

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Re: [CTRL] [3] "Trust No One..."

1999-11-08 Thread Dano

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JAH Publications wrote:
>
> his plot to prevent me from recovering The Ark

Dano writes,

I would like to know more about how you are going to recover
"The Ark" and where "The Ark" is or where YOU think it may be.

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Re: [CTRL] coincidence or not

1999-11-03 Thread Dano

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Rock4Life wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Well another day, another shootingthis time in Washington
> statereported on cnnhn.the web is being woven, ever so
> surely
>

Ear ache my eye!

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Re: [CTRL] SPECIAL REPORT:The Goblin on the Wing of Flight 990.

1999-11-02 Thread Dano


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> Finally, however, the Edwards unscheduled stop was excised
> from the coverage as a "mistake." No explanation.

That is not entirely correct. The first press conference that
occurred Sunday morning, a spokesman for the NY/NJ Port Authority
mentioned the "rumor" of flight990 landing at Edwards AFB and
blamed some unknown source on having seen a luggage tag for Newark
where the plane had been redirect to Saturday because of bad weather
at JFK. Apparently EWK is the designation for the Newark, NJ and
someone confused that with Edwards AFB. That from NY/NJ Port
Authority.

It was at that point the Edwards part of the story disappeared from
all network new coverage to be replaced later with the story that the
late arrival at JFK from LAX was a delay to change a tire on the jet.
That story quickly became superfluous and "was excised".

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Re: [CTRL] EgyptAir Flight Lost, Landed At Edwards AFB Before Crash.

1999-10-31 Thread Dano


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Here we go, CNN is backpedaling on flight 990 landing at Edwards.

EgyptAir 767 reported
missing; U.S. Coast Guard
finds debris in waters off
Massachusetts

October 31, 1999
Web posted at: 7:59 a.m. EST (1259GMT)

(CNN) --

After the flight left Los Angeles, EgyptAir officials were quoted on
Egyptian TV as saying it landed at Edwards Air Force Base in
California before continuing on to JFK. But according to Pentagon and
FAA officials, the flight did not stop at Edwards.

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Re: [CTRL] EgyptAir Flight Lost, Landed At Edwards AFB Before Crash.

1999-10-31 Thread Dano


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Here we go, CNN is backpedaling on flight 990 landing at Edwards.

William Shannon wrote:
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>
> Jet missing off Massachusetts coast
>
> Coast Guard searching for EgyptAir flight after contact lost
>
> ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> BOSTON, Oct. 31  A Boeing 767 passenger plane disappeared about 60 miles
> south of Nantucket after taking off from JFK Airport in New York, the Coast
> Guard says.
>
> EGYPTAIR FLIGHT 990 was headed to Cairo, Egypt, Coast Guard Lt. Rob
> Halsey said. It originated in Los Angeles, according to EgyptAir officials at
> Cairo International Airport.
>There were 197 passengers on the flight, an EgyptAir official said.
>What we have right now is, we werent able to establish contact,
> Halsey said. They had them on radar and then lost the radar picture.
>Flight 990 took off from Kennedy at 1:19 a.m. and disappeared from
> radar at 2 a.m. while flying at 33,000 feet, said Eliot Brenner, chief
> spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration in Washington.
>The Coast Guard sent every available cutter and aircraft in the
> Northeast to join the search, plus airplanes from far away as Elizabeth City,
> N.C., said spokesman Jim McPherson.
>Egyptian television quoted EgyptAir officials as saying that after the
> flight left Los Angeles it made a landing at Edwards Air Force Base in
> California before continuing on to Kennedy. However, there was no immediate
> confirmation from Edwards.
>According to FAA officials in Washington, the planes takeoff from
> Kennedy was delayed by two hours because it arrived late from Los Angeles.
>
> FEAR FOR LOVED ONES
>At Cairo Airport, relatives and friends gathered to await news.
>Imad Kassab trembled with hope when he discovered that his
> brother-in-law, Essam Bahjat, was not on the passenger list for the flight as
> he had feared. Kassab, owner of the Cairo branch of the U.S.-based restaurant
> Cheesecake Factory, quickly called friends and relatives.
>EgyptAir has a fleet of 38 planes and flies to some 85 airports around
> the world.
>Critics have called for the privatization of the company, one of the
> oldest in Africa and the Middle East, amid reports of bad management and bad
> service.
>
> A STURDY RECORD
>The Boeing 767 is a twin-engine, widebody passenger jet that went into
> passenger use in September 1982, when the first one was delivered to United
> Airlines. As of April 1, Boeing had received 865 orders for the 767 and
> delivered 746 airplanes.
>
>One of the planes crashed on May 26, 1991, when a Lauda Air 767-300ER
> crashed near Suphan Buri Province, Thailand.
>The Lauda airplane lost control and crashed after one of its engine
> thrust reversers accidentally deployed during a climb. The jet lost 25
> percent to 30 percent of its lift and plunged out of control into the ground,
> killing all 10 crew and 213 passengers.
>In addition, an Ethiopian Airlines 767-200ER crashed near Moroni,
> Comoros, on Nov. 23, 1996, while attempting to land after being hijacked. The
> aircraft had been on a flight from Ethiopia to Kenya.
>
>  Ten of the 12 crew members and 117 of the 160 passengers were
> killed. The three hijackers apparently died.
>The United States airline industry went through a fatality-free year
> in 1998, but this year there has been the crash of an American Airlines jet
> in Little Rock, Ark. The aviation world has also been shadowed by the loss of
> John F. Kennedys private plane off Marthas Vineyard this summer and last
> weeks crash of a Learjet carrying golfer Payne Stewart.
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Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass

1999-10-28 Thread Dano

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Das GOAT wrote:
>
> In most American cities, a large percentage of the working poor
> see most of their income go into the hands of real estate speculator
> landlords. In San Francisco, yours truly has to work 40 hours a week
> at a very demanding high-stress, "above-average" pay job just to be
> able --with not one penny left over--.to pay my RENT, for a modest
> studio apartment in a bad neighborhood. (My wife has to do the same so
> that we can EAT as well.)

"...the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will
deprive
the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on
the continent their fathers conquered."   --Thomas Jefferson

In October 1967, my dad bought a single family home for $19,500.
This month, that house sold for $230,000. The point is
I can not afford to live in the neighborhood in which I grew up.

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Re: [CTRL] Black Sun...Something interesting...Read.

1999-10-19 Thread Dano


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A careful examination of the dedication stone reveals a reference
to the "New World Airport Commission"

Anyone ever heard of the New World Airport Commission?

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-24 Thread Dano


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I don't believe it. First nukes in U.S. cities and now
a month later this urgent warning of yet another terrorist
attack. I am reminded of a story...something about a boy
crying wolf...

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[CTRL] Panspermia

1999-09-22 Thread Dano


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Origin of Life and the Panspermia Theory

http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/20hist11.htm

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Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Major PROBLEM Developing

1999-09-01 Thread Dano


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Now wouldn't that be an intereresting turn of events?

K wrote:

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> http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?P3392
>
> Presented by the Federal Election Commission
>
> CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM   ID: P3392
>
> Office Sought:   President
> Election Year:   2000
> State:   Presidential Candidate
> District:03
> Party:   DEM (Democratic Party)
> -
>
> --- End of forwarded message ---
>
> Kathleen
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> or crushed." --Francis Bacon
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Re: [CTRL] The Protocols

1999-08-13 Thread Dano

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Whether or not the Protocols are genuine or a forgery is irrelevant.
The text exists and can be reviewed by anyone who so chooses.

When reading the Protocols, I find the general message becomes
more clear if the every appearance of the word Jew is substituted
with Illuminati and the words Goyim and Gentile are substituted with
the word cattle (cattle meaning the general population).

ANY mention of ethnicity and/or race only serves as a vehicle
for distraction and obfuscation (this is a bad thing).

Dano

Das GOAT wrote:
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> Yadda-yadda-yadda ...
> Third-hand now-discredited sources whose SPECULATIONS have somehow transmuted
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Re: [CTRL] [Y2K] Gun deaths plummet

1999-01-17 Thread Dano

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K wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Gun-related death rate plummets to lowest level since the '60s
>
> 4.50 p.m. ET (2202 GMT) November 18, 1999
>
> By James Pilcher, Associated Press
>
>  ATLANTA (AP)   Gun deaths in the United States dropped 21 percent
> between
> 1993 and 1997 to the lowest level in more than 30 years, and
> firearm-related injuries fell 41 percent, the government said Thursday.
> 
>
> Source:  Fox News
> http://www.foxnews.com/news/wires2/1118/n_ap_1118_280.sml
>
> --
>
> So why haven't NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, et al reported this?
>

Not entirely
correct:http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/gundeaths991118.html

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Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass

1999-01-04 Thread Dano

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No way nessie. The differences between capitalism (monopoly or
> otherwise) and communism are profound.

In regards to capitalism vs. communism, I would like to break
these down to their most simple terms, as I see it.

Communism as practiced today, sacrifices the good of the
individual for the good of the whole (collective).

Real (utopian) communism combines the needs of the individual
with the needs of the whole (the collective) to achieve a balance.

Capitalism glorifies the individual with little or no regard
for the collective unless of course it is profitable to do so.

As for private property rights, don't pay your Property Taxes
some day and see what results, then talk to me about private property.

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