Re: [CTRL] Feds- Spy Tool Is A Secret
-Caveat Lector- They are already using it. There is no privacy on the web. They watch anyone they see as a threat. Jeanne - Original Message - From: tenebroust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Feds- Spy Tool Is A Secret -Caveat Lector- This sounds like a very interesting case that is well worth keeping an eye on, since a keystroke interceptor would enable the Feds to bypass any type of firewall or encryption and if they can do it willy nilly then no one's data is secure. Scary. On Tue, 07 August 2001, William Shannon wrote: HTMLFONT FACE=arial,helveticaBODY BGCOLOR=#ffFONT SIZE=2 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Arial LANG=0A HREF=http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45851,00.html;http://www.wi red.com/news/politics/0,1283,45851,00.html/A BR BR BR BRFeds: Spy Tool Is a Secret BR/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=1 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Verdana LANG=0By A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]%3Fsubject=Feds:%20Spy%20Tool%20Is%20a%20Secret Declan McCullagh/A /FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=3 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Verdana LANG=0 BR BR/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=2 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Arial LANG=02:00 a.m. Aug. 7, 2001 PDT BR/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=3 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Verdana LANG=0IMG SRC=http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/static.wired.com/news/ima ges/spacer.gif WIDTH=89 HEIGHT=21 BORDER=0/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=2 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Verdana LANG=0 BR/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 SIZE=2 FAMILY=SANSSERIF FACE=Arial LANG=0The U.S. government has invoked national security to argue that details of a BRnew electronic surveillance technique must remain secret. BRJustice Department attorneys told a federal judge overseeing the prosecution BRof an alleged mobster that public disclosure of a classified keystroke logger BRwould imperil ongoing investigations of foreign intelligence agents and BRendanger the lives of U.S. agents. BR BRIn court documents A HREF=http://www2.epic.org/crypto/scarfo/gov_supp_brief.pdf;(PDF)/A filed Friday, the Justice Department claims that BRsuch stringent secrecy is necessary to prevent hostile intelligence BRofficers from employing counter-surveillance tactics to thwart law BRenforcement. BR BRU.S. District Judge Nicholas Politan A HREF=http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45730,00.html;heard arguments/A last Monday in the BRprosecution of Nicodemo S. Scarfo, the alleged mastermind of a loan shark BRoperation in New Jersey. Politan asked both sides to submit additional briefs BRbefore he decided whether or not to order the feds to disclose details about BRtheir keystroke logging device, which captured Scarfo's PGP passphrase. BR BRPolitan has barred attorneys in the case from talking to reporters. BR BRDonald Kerr, the director of the FBI's lab, said in an affidavit filed Friday BRthat there are only a limited number of effective techniques available to BRthe FBI to cope with encrypted data, one of which is the 'key logger BRsystem.' He said that if criminals find out how the logger works, they can BRreadily circumvent it. BR BRThe feds believe so strongly in keeping this information secret that they've BRsaid they may invoke the A HREF=http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/laws/pl096456.htm;Classified Information/A Procedures Act if necessary. BRThe 1980 law says that the government may say that evidence requires BRprotection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national BRsecurity. BR BRIf that happens, not only are observers barred from the courtroom, but the BRtrial could move to a classified location. Federal regulations say that if a BRcourtroom is not sufficiently secure, the court shall designate the BRfacilities of another United States Government agency as the location for BRthe trial. BR BRBut the FBI's Kerr said that CIPA's extreme procedures aren't good enough. BRSays Kerr: Even disclosure under the protection of the court ... cannot BRguarantee that the technique will not be compromised To assume otherwise BRmay well lead to the compromise of criminal and national security BRinvestigations, and, in some cases, threaten the lives of FBI or other BRgovernment agency personnel. BR BRScarfo allegedly used PGP to encode his confidential and incriminating BRbusiness data. With a judge's approval, FBI agents repeatedly sneaked into BRScarfo's business to plant a keystroke sniffer -- it could be either software BRor hardware -- and monitor its output. BR BRDuring last Monday's hearing, Judge Politan wondered aloud how the law should BRtreat the keyboard tap. BR BRWas it akin, Politan wondered, to a telephone wiretap, regulated by the BRfederal law known as Title III? Perhaps it was a general search of the sort BRloathed by the colonists at the time of the American Revolution and BRthereafter outlawed by the Fourth Amendment? Or was it, as
[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Rosie O'Donnell talks about her depression
-Caveat Lector- I thought it was interesting that Rosanne Barr came forward telling about her child abuse and recovered memories - championing the causes of abused children - then her career gets trashed. That was when Rosie's career took off. Jeanne - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Rosie O'Donnell talks about her depression So now its poor, for Rosie has been depressed since she was 18 and on medication now for two years..thought they did a background check before they turned over little children to depressed lesbians but then, nobody ever checked out the alcoholic Paul Pouondstone, lesbian, Rosie's playmate did they. One would think they would run some type of a background check on people like Rosie and Paula Poundstone (both lesbians) before they let little children be placed in their loving care? In particular always wondered about the one who had the front teeth knocked out - only 2 years old.and we know what Paula is charged with do we not? Noticed Madonna and Paula Poundstone both said they checked out state laws for Sodomy laws before they would come in and also noed, tht Madonna had several concerts cancelled for people are not buying enough tickets Times they are a changing and meanwhile watch little pedophile Michael Jackson's imagine being cleaned up and oh, he will cry for the children too. In all fairness though the police three times heard Rosie's child screaming in the night for someone called the police - the child was removed from he home but then they got Paula - makes good example, And then we have the Boy Scouts - oh h ow these loving homos would love to get their hands on some of them. I would like to hear more about how she hurt her hand and how Paula while in rehab in drunken state hurt her arm and handsmakes nice sob story .but for the state to turn children over to these two lesbians - one having police called to house 3 times for child screaming in night, and the latter arrested under $200,000 bond and in alcholic rehab house .what next? Saba Rosie O'Donnell talks about her depression 'I am no longer ashamed,' TV star notes NEW YORK, Aug. 5 - Talk-show host Rosie O'Donnell said she has been on anti-depressants for two years after having been depressed and in denial about her condition for years, according to the September issue of her magazine. In the upcoming issue of Rosie, O'Donnell has written, I think I have been depressed for years. Despite 'moments of joy ... happy days and career success,' O'Donnell said 'the dark cloud that arrived in my childhood did not leave until I was 37 and started taking medication.' SAYING SHE WAS in denial about her condition during that time, O'Donnell wrote, I wasn't depressed. I was sad, yes, and moody, but not 'depressed.' I had reasons for my pain, and that kept me from getting treatment. The September issue of the magazine will be out on Aug. 7. Going to therapy on-and-off since she was 16, she said she went over and over the disturbing things that happened to me. ... I never felt much better. With the gloom ... becoming constant despite moments of joy ... happy days and career success, O'Donnell said the dark cloud that arrived in my childhood did not leave until I was 37 and started taking medication. The former stand-up comic credits the medication for saving her life. O'Donnell did not say what medication she was taking, but wrote my depression slowly faded away. I have been on medication for two years now. I may be on it forever. MEDICATION MADE LIFE MANAGEABLE Addressing common fears about anti-depressants, she said, the pills did not make me a zombie, they did not change the reality of my past, they did not take away my curiosity. ... What the pills did was to allow me to deal with all of those issues when and where I wish. ... My life is once again manageable. ... Advertisement The gray has gone away, I am living in bright Technicolor. O'Donnell said that she became obsessed by the Columbine High School shooting. I could not stop crying. I could not sleep, she wrote. It affected my work, nothing else mattered. I became obsessed. Danger was everywhere. No one was safe. With thoughts of leaving her television show or checking into a hospital, O'Donnell said she suffered a panic attack and then saw a doctor who prescribed two anti-depressants. Only last week, she wrote, I filled a prescription for the medication that saved my life. In my own name. I am no longer ashamed. © 2001 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. 'Rush Hour 2' ties up movie traffic Rosie O'Donnell talks about her depression The best, the worst and the overrated Chan and Tucker repeat a 'Rush' job Fairy-tale schmaltz that succeeds MSNBC Cover Page 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' returns Next
Re: [CTRL] Freedom of Information
-Caveat Lector- I guess I will have to do that now; the article was about teenage neo-nazi's living in an afluent community who beat, shot at, and robbed migrant workers in their 60's in San Deigo County, who were minding their own business and picking crops. Then I noticed a post here about blacks beating migrant workers. That was NOT the incident I was refering to. I wonder if someone counted the number of times non-whites are harrassed by conservatives, vs the number of times non-whites are harrassed by other non-whites...what do you think? Jeanne - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Freedom of Information -Caveat Lector- It's spooky all right. Still, a trip to the library might gain you some info. Unless they've placed all the newspapers under lock and key. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA paid millions to Montesinos
-Caveat Lector- The Miami Herald | Print This ArticleMIAMI HERALD Published Friday, August 3, 2001 CIA paid millions to Montesinos BY KEVIN G. HALL Herald World Staff LIMA, Peru -- The Central Intelligence Agency paid the Peruvian intelligence organization run by fallen spymaster Vladimiro Montesinos $1 million a year for 10 years to fight drug trafficking, despite evidence that Montesinos was also in business with Colombian narcotraffickers, The Herald has learned. Montesinos, 56 and in jail near Lima on corruption charges, is now dragging the CIA into his legal battles, asking Peruvian court officials to interrogate two CIA officers as part of his defense against charges that he helped smuggle guns to guerrillas who provide protection to Colombian narcotraffickers. Despite attempts by the U.S. government to distance itself from the powerful Peruvian intelligence chief, years of cooperation with Montesinos dating to the mid-1970s may be coming back to haunt the United States. New documents obtained by The Herald show how the CIA and State Department first cultivated Montesinos decades ago, and how the U.S. government maintained a relationship with him for a quarter-century despite warnings that he was working for both sides in the drug war. In a document dated July 27, 1991, the U.S. Army Intelligence and Threat Policy Center reported that Peruvian Gen. Luis Palomino Rodríguez had showed up at a U.S. defense attache's home wearing a bulletproof vest and warned that Montesinos was trying to ``frustrate joint U.S.-Peruvian counter-drug efforts.'' By then Montesinos was already receiving large sums of CIA cash. Officials speaking on condition of anonymity said that the CIA has told Peruvian investigators that the agency gave Montesinos' National Intelligence Service $1 million annually from 1990 to 2000. The CIA declined to comment. Now Montesinos is looking for CIA help again to defend himself against charges of selling arms to narcotrafficking guerrillas in Colombia. Judge Jimena Cayo Rivera-Schreiber, one of six judges on a special Peruvian anti-corruption court that's probing alleged illicit activity by Montesinos, said the former intelligence chief has given court officials the names of two CIA officers who can provide him with an alibi. Cayo would not name the officers, but said Montesinos claims they can vouch that he had nothing to do with a ring that smuggled arms from Jordan through Peru to guerrillas in the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia. ``He says it's the CIA that told him about this,'' Cayo said, adding that court officials are trying to get sworn statements from the CIA officials. Investigators are trying to determine whether Montesinos diverted any of the money the CIA provided for anti-drug efforts into his own pockets. At least $270 million allegedly belonging to Montesinos has been found in secret bank accounts around the globe. The judges who are investigating Montesinos, and are able to provide some of the first public glimpses of this highly secretive man, describe him as compulsive, orderly and accustomed to stature. In prison, he has insisted on dining on Gerber baby food -- to soothe his gastritis -- with fancy cutlery brought by his family. Appearing to forget that he is in prison, he sought unsuccessfully to persuade his keepers to allow him a different menu each day, and to be served separate courses. Once a key ally of former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori and the architect of Peru's successful war against leftist rebels, Montesinos now faces 57 cases against him and at least 168 criminal investigations, divided among the six anti-corruption judges. The probes cover 24 crimes from money laundering, illicit enrichment and corruption to organizing death squads, protecting drug lords and illegal arms trafficking. Since his capture, speculation has been intense that Montesinos would try to link the United States to his illicit activities. The CIA and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration have privately defended him against detractors in the past. A declassified DEA document written on Aug. 27, 1996, shows U.S. authorities were aware of allegations that Montesinos and the chairman of Peru's joint chiefs of staff, Gen. Nicolás Hermoza Ríos, also in jail now, were taking protection money from drug traffickers. Newly declassified U.S. government documents provided to The Herald show that the State Department and the CIA cultivated Montesinos as early as 1974. State Department documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the National Security Archive, a Washington foreign policy research center, indicate that the U.S. Embassy in Lima identified Montesinos as a potential ally and took him to Washington in 1976 when he was an obscure army captain. Documents show Montesinos was a political operative in the dictatorship of Juan Velasco when the U.S. government first sought him out. When the left-wing general was toppled in 1975, Montesinos managed to remain in
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[CTRL] Freedom of Information
I have been searching for info on past news articles and nothing is coming up in any of the search engines regarding the beating and robbery of aged migrant workers by teenage members of a hate group from Carmel Mountain Ranch. I have searched many metaengines and news resourcesites, etc. This is interesting as there was a lot of news coverage regarding this a couple of years ago. I went to the San Diego Union Tribune's website to search the archives and found the following message: FROM THE SAN DIEGO UNION TRIBUNE WEBSITE ARCHIVES: "Because of a legal challenge to newspapers' rights to place some older articles in their electronic archives, The San Diego Union-Tribune has barred access to all of the archive's contents created prior to January 1, 2000. When the legal challenge is resolved or technical strategies are devised to block display of only the challenged articles, the pre-2000 contents of the archive may be restored." http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sandiego/index.html Shades of 1984? Jeanne
Re: [CTRL] McCain, Lieberman call for action on global warming
-Caveat Lector- Now I realise that politicians/goverment will use causes to further their own agenda - and I have seen manipulation in the environmental movement. All things considered, I don't suppose anyone would consider is bad for business to eradicate life on Earth. I remember watching military officers cry on tv when they cut the defense budget because it was ruining their careers. Lets just keep bombing villages so the career military can stay on track with their investments. I don't suppose that changing careers could be a viable option. I remember the strong reaction of cattle ranchers to laws cutting back on their outrageous subsidations. The loggers get angry over environmentalist trying to save old growth forests because they make good money - $18 and hour to cut down those thousand year old trees. Who cares if we only have 2% of our original forests left? - they need a winnebago. And if an environmentalist tries to stand in the way of their logging they just cut the tree down anyway - and make sure it lands on him and kills him. As far as making species extinct by our destruction of the Earth, who cares if they have been here for millions of years - who cares if the all species on Earth, including humans - are interdependent on each other - I mean we wouldn't want to make a dent on their bottom line just to save the erradication of yet another species, would we now? I mean it is just too much trouble to have to change careers, so lets just continue our destruction of the Earth.So now we have christian patiot militia right wing extremists disguising themselves and joining activists communities and working to sway them to further their agendas. Jeanne - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: [CTRL] McCain, Lieberman call for action on global warming -Caveat Lector- McCain, Lieberman call for action on global warming Senate committee approves global-warming research legislation By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press WASHINGTON (August 3, 2001 8:32 p.m. EDT) - Republican Sen. John McCain teamed with Democrat Joseph Lieberman on Friday to criticize President Bush's approach to dealing with global warming and called for mandatory limits on greenhouse gases. The two senators said regulations for carbon dioxide and other emissions that are believed to be changing Earth's climate are needed because voluntary measures - favored by Bush - will not work. In the clearest signal yet that the Senate is determined to pursue a separate climate agenda from the White House, the two senators will introduce legislation imposing a nationwide cap and trade system on greenhouse emissions. Otherwise, they argued, American businesses will suffer as the rest of the industrial countries begin trading emission credits under the Kyoto climate agreement recently rejected by the Bush administration. The current situation demands leadership from the United States, McCain said. He said purely voluntary approaches will not be enough to meet the goal of preventing dangerous effects on the climate system. In an interview, Lieberman acknowledged that the proposal will likely unleash a big fight in the Congress but said he and McCain are committed to this and plan to press it aggressively. The White House did not immediately comment on the McCain-Lieberman alliance. In abandoning the Kyoto climate treaty earlier this year, Bush expressed his opposition to mandatory restrictions or regulation of carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases, saying such controls would be too costly and harm the economy. While the administration has provided no specific program to deal with climate change, Bush has said his approach would rely on voluntary actions by industry and development of new technologies to capture carbon releases and reduce energy use. Lieberman responded, Voluntary programs, unfortunately, do not work. The two senators warned that U.S. businesses stand a chance of being left out of an international trading program of greenhouse gases under the Kyoto protocol unless a domestic trading scheme is put in place. While details are still being worked out, the legislation would establish a cap on the amount of greenhouse gases that could be emitted nationwide. Caps also would be imposed for specific economic sectors such as power plants and transportation. Companies that exceed the limits could purchase credits from other entities whose emissions are lower. The Lieberman-McCain announcement was among several actions taken recently that demonstrate the Democratic-controlled Senate is intent on pressing its own climate agenda. On Thursday, legislation advanced that would pump nearly $5 billion into research technologies to combat global warming. It was cleared by the Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Lieberman. A day earlier, the Senate Foreign Relations
Re: [CTRL] Center for an Informed America
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I love this site - I really like a quote he used to have on it:
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I hear he has a new book coming out soon.
Jeanne
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I'm new to this list, so here is a brief intro and thanks for having me.
I've been researching for a long time and agree with a lot of the views
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Kris, thanks for this info on The White Rose - I have been saying for many
years now that the flower child movement was sidetracked by the elite.
There has been so much slander and criticism of our gen and I see so many of
us that have given up on believing in ourselves and our goals. It's good to
see all the info coming out that is revealing the truth of what really
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