Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date

[Mary K. Gemmato]

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Can you elaborate...
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From: PM Kansan1225 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:05 PM
Subject: [CTRL] McVeigh's execution date


> -Caveat Lector-
>
>   The CLuM secret behind May 16, the date selected for Timothy
McVeigh's
> phony execution, is revealed in the January 2001 issue of the newsletter
> "Contemporary Indications of a Conspiracy".
>
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Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

[Mary K. Gemmato]

The more you listen to the crap coming out of Congress and the White House
and Washington DC in general...I have trouble finding intelligent life
here period 
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- Original Message -
From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .


> Tony Dickinson wrote:
> >
> > Dear Ten,
> >  I would be happier if you could qualify your claim. What is
your
> > evidence for there being 'absolutely no "hard" evidence for ET
> > visitatuion' ?
>
> You are requesting that he  prove a negative on the same basis as proving,
> (with hard evidence,) the existence of aliens here on Earth. This is a no
no.
>
> Firstly, We ( J2- made the original claim that there is no hard evidence
of
> intelligent alien existence on Earth )are NOT required to prove that
aliens
> don't exist. The more extraordinary the claim, the more solid the evidence
> needs to be. There is none. What there is plenty of, is 'stories'.
>
> >
> > That I, myself, have not knowingly been exposed to any, does not tell me
> > therefore that such evidence does not exist.
>
> If you deconstruct this sentence you will find a very a problematic
> suggestion. These words if taken in a serious context, will cause you to
> undermine your own judgment. Good judgment is not something that humans
> have a great abundance of. Good judgment is learned. It is not an instinct
> we are born with. Unfortunately, there is more to be got from people with
bad
> judgment than good judgment.
>
> In our society there are few tools which help
> develop judgment. School should be one of those tools but it's not. TV
could
> be the best tool but it entirely monopolized by people who know for
CERTAIN
> that a consumer with good judgment is a very bad business idea. Aint gonna
> happen. Religion...to put it politely is not the right tool for the job.
>
> So it's up to each individual to start his/her own Judgment Buildup
Program.
> It's tougher than body building. Every one will encourage you to build up
your
> body.
>
> If all your life you had never experienced the lingering aroma of Unicorn
> droppings, and you are running through a beautiful meadow, and your foot
> crashes through the crusty crown of cow crap, and the home baked smell of
> cooling cow pie wafts you in the face, your first thought ought not be -
> "Oh my god I stepped in Unicorn shit!"
>
> That would be bad judgment because you did not correctly judge the
physical
> situation. In nature, those individuals which miss-judge the physical
> environment more than others, significantly improve the common gene pool
> by leaving it.
>
> The people who diminish your judgment OR your ability to trust your
> judgment, or prevent you from developing your judgment, are doing you
> the individual, real harm. This is done both intentionally and
unintentionally
> in our interactions with people. The measure is, how many of the "events "
to
> which you are exposed during the course of any given period of time, turn
out
> to be true. This includes tv, songs, mags, books, commercials, ads,
billboards,
> salespeople, friends, relatives, strangers with candy, and the clergy.
>
> The more truth you are exposed to, the more you can collect as valid
> experiential data to internalize, and be a base to do comparisons with.
> Judgment ensues when you compare an experience
> in the moment, with what you have learned is true. This might also be
called
> having common sense.
>
> So the following ...
>
> > Dear Ten,
> >  I would be happier if you could qualify your claim. What is
your
> > evidence for there being 'absolutely no "hard" evidence for ET
> > visitatuion' ?
> > That I, myself, have not knowingly been exposed to any, does not tell me
> > therefore that such evidence does not exist.
>
> is telling you that your experiential internal base WHICH HAS TAKEN YOU
YEARS
> TO ACCUMULATE AND WHICH HAS SUCCESSFULLY BROUGHT YOU TO YOUR PRESENT POINT
> OF SURVIVAL, should be put aside in order to accept a concept some one
wants
> you to share. This is corruption. You are asked to put asside trustworthy
data
> and replace it with " something else."
>
> Unless YOU YOURSELF has ever directly experienced contact with an alien or
> alien paraphernalia, you have no reason to assume that the more unlikely
> experience is the true one.
>
> > (At least for one example, the evidence with regards meteoric
microossils
> > would appear to be growing since The Murchison work by Pfloog/Hoyle back
> > in the late 70s.
>
> We are not talking about space bacteria or viruses. We are talking about
> intelligent beings who were reviewed thusly...
>
> >>> EXOPOLITICS by Alfred Lambremont Webre
> Reviewed by Nicky Molloy
>
> This is one of the most deeply thought provoking books I've read in some
> time.
> Alfred appears right in his perception that almost a majority of US adults
> know i

[CTRL] Solution for Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY

[Mary K. Gemmato]

I had the same problem and fixed it. Contact your isp and ask them what your
limit of incoming messages per day is. Often time to save money they limit
everyone to a hundred incoming messages a day. As we all know 100 incoming
messages a day is a slow day for CTRL (ha ha). I had mine changed from 100 a
day to 200 a day. What I did was make an extra folder on Outlook Express for
"old news". Once or twice a day I send all my mail there until I can go thru
it. This way I no longer freeze up.

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- Original Message -
From: tenebroust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Email Freezing on CTRL Emails ONLY


> On Wed, 17 May 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote:
>
> >
> > From: "Jim Condit Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > What in the world is going on? Last night I ran into another CTRL
email that
> > > froze my email. I had to go into mailstart and get rid of it after I
> > > identified it. I didn't note the name, but now, tonight a CTRL email
froze
> > > me up under the name "William Shannon" --
> > >
> > > I must say I find it interesting that I identify the "Bill Richer"
emails as
> > > being the cause of freeze up -- and then immediately the freeze up
begins to
> > > happen with emails sent under other names. Again, I'm not accusing
anyone, I
> > > just determined to get to the bottom of this strange problem. I've
lost
> > > hours trying to determine what was happening -- and to straighten out
the
> > > whole situation, probably days.
> >
> > Since it seems to only be happening to you (I haven't had any problems,
and
> > seemingly no one else, or at least very few), it would seem that this
subject
> > would be better handled by taking it off-list and discussing it with
your own
> > ISP and perhaps the ISPs of the emails you suspect are causing you a
problem.
> >
> > June
> >
> > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org
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> > and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major
and
> > minor
> > effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
said,
> > CTRL
> > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
> > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
> > nazi's need not apply.
> >
> > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> > 
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>
> "Welcome to the desert of the real."  Morpheus, in The Matrix
>
> "My God it's full of stars!"  Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space
> Odyssey
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> minor
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> CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
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[CTRL] Tim McVeigh on 60 minutes tonight

[Mary K. Gemmato]

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Re: [CTRL] Ben Partin and Waco Suits for Waco Suckers

[Mary K. Gemmato]

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 -Cui Bono?-

 Former CIA director William Colby said that it was a "suitcase
nuke" and two weeks after to going to the BUTCHer of waco Janet Reno with
the information he was swimming with the fishes  The other man privy to
these documents is Gordon Novel is so far back in the federal prison system
that they have to pump him air & water. There is a tape that gets played on
WWCR alot to back this up. It is tape # 828 from Newswatch magazine with
David J. Smith.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 10:52 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Ben Partin and Waco Suits for Waco Suckers


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> Subject: Ben Partin and Waco Suits for Waco Suckers
> From: "Carol A. Valentine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:48:54 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I had a recent exchange with a person who read "Waco Suits for Waco
Suckers"
> in the Burial Gallery of the Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum.  The direct
> URL is:
>
>

> (See sections 4c, "the Fireball and the Hole"
> and 4d, "General Partin Goes Down in Flames.")
>
> This person responded to my treatment of Partin as follows:
>
> >Interesting reading, Carol.
> >
> >I think you're too harsh on Partin, however. *Something* made the
hole
> > in the roof of the concrete room. It's probable that he hasn't seen the
> > autopsies, and so is only making a reasonable assumption that an
explosion
> > on the roof of the room would subject the interior to a spray of
concrete
> > rock shrapnel, killing anyone inside who might be alive. In any event,
it
> > makes little sense to have him lie about Waco if he's telling the truth
> > about OKC.
>
>
> Here is my response:
>
> 
>
> Of course we know SOMETHING caused the hole in the roof of the concrete
room.
> But there is a reason Ramsey Clark and Gordon Novel asked Partin to write
an
> affidavit, and not you or me.  Partin is a munitions expert.  We are not.
>
> Partin was not asked for a "reasonable assumption." He was asked for
expert
> opinion.
>
> In his affidavit, Partin gave his *expert* opinion about the hole in the
roof
> of the concrete room and the fireball.  As an *expert,* he said the
fireball
> appeared over the roof and was part of the phenomenon that caused the
hole.
>
> As an *expert* we might expect Partin to base his opinion on the evidence.
But
> the evidence contradicts Partin.  The fireball did not appear over the
roof of
> the concrete room.  Therefore the fireball was not part of the phenomenon
that
> caused the hole in the roof as Partin inferred.
>
> Partin got the location of the fireball wrong, despite easy availability
of
> photographic evidence and layouts of the Mt.Carmel Center.
>
> Partin also said the fireball was caused by a breaching charge. So Partin
also
> got the cause of the fireball wrong.
>
> Are we supposed to believe Partin wrote and signed an affidavit on the
> fireball and the hole in the roof without looking at the photographic
evidence
> and layout diagrams, and Partin pontificated about the deaths of the
mothers
> and children without looking at the autopsies?
>
> What WAS Partin basing his analysis on, if not the evidence?  Ian Goddard
> e-mails?  Or does the same military intelligence unit write the scripts
for
> Partin and Goddard?
>
> Twice during the last several years I have confronted Partin at public
> meetings and interrupted him as he was spooning out Waco
> disinformation--disinformation about the concrete room and the bodies of
the
> women and children.
>
> The first confrontation occurred before dozens of people at the 1997
> Surveillance Expo (organized by Jim Ross of Ross Engineering in N.
Virginia).
> When I spoke up, Partin just tried to shut me up.  On one occasion Partin
> addressed the critical issues I raised with these words:
>
> "Details, details, details."
>
> If details are beyond an explosives expert, I'd hate to be around when one
of
> his bombs go off.  They'd probably go off an hour early, in his back
pocket.
>
> I had a second confrontation with Partin at a meeting of the Sarah
McClendon
> Study Group in Washington DC.  The results were pretty much the same.  He
just
> ignored my questions and went on with his script.  On neither occasions
did
> Partin seem to be even remotely embarrassed.
>
> After both events I approached Partin and spoke to him amicably.  Because
we
> have known each other slightly over a number of years and because we both
live
> in the N. Virginia area, I invited Partin to my office to have a look at
ALL
> the relevant evidence on my very own computer. Despite my repeated
invitations
> and his knowledge of my phone number, Partin never called me to take me up
on
> the offer.
>
> That is, he did not call me unti

Re: [CTRL] "MANNA FROM HEAVEN"

[Mary K. Gemmato]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

Prudy,
   Please read "Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Velikovsky. He covers
the subject on Manna thoroughly.

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From: Prudence L. Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] "MANNA FROM HEAVEN"


> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> In a message dated 01/30/2000 12:51:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  In the next passage, the Bible describes manna as having light tan color
>  and texture like a wafer, certainly an accurate description of the color
>  and texture of a dried psilocybe mushroom. We also learn that the taste
of
>  manna is no longer that of fresh oil but rather that of honey. According
to
>  McKenna's research', honey has long been used in Mexico as a preserve
>  medium for psilocybin containing mushrooms. Perhaps the children of
Israel
>  had begun to mix honey with the manna to preserve its potency. We find
that
>  Moses announced that manna must be kept for future generations: >>
>
> There are other descriptions of manna.  In commemoration of the Deucalion
> flood, the people of Athens observed a feast in th month of Anthesterion,
> which is a spring month; the feast ws called Anthesteria.  On the
thirteenth
> of the month, the main day of the feast, honey and flour were poured into
a
> fissure in the earth as a sacrifice.
>
> The date of this ceremony--the thirteenth day of Anthesterion in the
> spring--is revealing if we remember what was said in the section entitled
> "13".  It was on the thirteenth day of the spring month (Aviv) that the
great
> planetary contact occurred which preceded by a few hours the Exodus of the
> Israelites from Egypt.
>
> The offering of honey and flour as the main ceremony of the feast is also
> revealing if we recollect that manna, or heavenly corn, tasting like
honey,
> fell on the earth after the contact of the earth with a celestial body. "
>
> Something falling from heaven is entirely different than something
springing
> from the earth.  The Israelites just couldn't have been so stupid they
could
> not tell that difference.   Prudy
>
> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org
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> and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and
outright
> frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor
effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
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[CTRL] 1Re: [CTRL] Y2K~The HARD Facts...

[Mary K. Gemmato]

 -Caveat Lector-

William,
  I have heard that many companies did nothing more that roll back
their computers to a different year. If this is true all they did was stall
the problems until another time in the future.
  Personally, the electronic time clock at the nursing home where I
work is all screwed up. The atm machines in northwest Indiana have been
acting strange for the last four months, sometimes allowing withdrawals and
other times giving error messages such as wrong pin number, no such account,
or insufficient funds when the money is there. Often the atm will turn you
down on credit card withdrawals (which could be the fault of Cirrus or the
credit card companies computers). It is not just one bank or systems atms
but seem to be across the board.
- Original Message -
From: William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:33 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Y2K~The HARD Facts...


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> The hard facts
>
> By Mitch Ratcliffe, ZDY2K
>
> Opinion - January 3, 2000 -- Why didn't it happen? See my column of
Thursday
> to understand why Y2K wasn't a hoax, and why there a lot of people who
> deserve thanks There's not much more to say, when I called Y2K almost to a
> tee: No one died as a result of Y2K problems; Power stayed on, despite
widely
> dispersed and localized problems with computers; Embedded systems did not
> fail on a large scale, and those that did were non-critical; If anything,
> less developed countries proved they are less reliant on technology and,
so,
> avoided many problems that would have occurred in the U.S. if Americans
had
> ignored Y2K; Critical infrastructures operated normally, despite problems
(at
> this writing, the FAA's few problems have not resulted in a threat to
public
> safety, nor have any of the markets around the world that are open,
including
> the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and Chicago Board of Trade, experienced
any
> major problems).
>
> After all the abuse and threats ladled out toward me and my family for the
> past 18 months, let me just take one moment to gloat.
>
> Gloat.
>
> There was a moment on Saturday that brought the whole Y2K situation into
> crystal clarity, when Cathy Hotka of the National Retail Federation was
asked
> by the press whether survivalists could return supplies they hadn't used.
>
> "Retailers are in the business of selling things and not lending them,"
she
> said, with remarkable credulity, considering how foolish the question
> sounded.
>
> In a nutshell, the Y2K problem has proved a non-event because business
(and
> government) stuck to their strengths: business as usual, with a note of
> urgency in IT efforts. Overall, the two percent to seven percent of IT
> budgets dedicated to Y2K repairs by corporations and government agencies
was
> a responsible and rational response.
>
> The cost shouldered by large organizations was much larger, as percentage
of
> revenue, than what a household should have spent, because each company
> shouldered a small part of the expense of removing risk from their
customers'
> lives. Now that the danger has passed, the survivalist who did over-spend
has
> to live with the mistake while the rest of us will benefit from having
> calculated correctly. A little preparation went a long way.
>
> This is not a paean to the beauty of capitalism, just to good sense. As an
> investor, you take risks. As a human being, you take risks. Some folks
> over-react to risk and some thrive.
>
> >From the very beginning of this Y2K odyssey, especially since I became
> convinced there was no reason to fear an apocalyptic failure or anything
> approaching that, I've been enraged by the opportunists who have
exaggerated
> the risks of Y2K for their own profit.
>
> Now that the realities of Y2K are plain - I needn't rehash them here,
other
> than to point to these stories I did for United Press International - we
need
> to be sure to call to account those who abused so many people, costing
them
> hundreds or thousands of dollars.
>
> First, the stories about the Y2K rollover:
>
> World prepares for Y2K
>
> When Will Y2K Actually Strike?
>
> Y2K off to bug-less start
>
> Networks Pass Biggest Test; Europe Joins The Party
>
> Asia Glides easily into 2000
>
> Y2K: What Exactly Happened?
>
> Y2K still silent as business begins around the world
>
> Y2K survivalists struggle with reality
>
> What is especially troubling is that the doomer prophets who led people
> astray are already in the midst of reinventing themselves.
>
> Gary North's Web site has been altered, and many of the loonier statements
he
> made there disappeared almost immediately after the rollover. North claims
> his site has been hacked, but the "damage" doesn't make sense - why would
> hackers wait until after the New Year and then remove only part of the
> content on the site? Fortunately, there are people with accurate back-ups
of
> the North site to preserve the record.
>
> Mike Adams, who 

Re: [CTRL] It's January 3rd. Where's the martial law I was told to expect?

[Mary K. Gemmato]

 -Caveat Lector-

True,
Am I to understand that you are disappointed that the crap didn't
hit the fan on January 1, 2000 ??? This gives us more time to prepare (thank
God for that). Mark Koernke said that dates are only important to the ring
knockers not to us. Don't sweat the details. Heads ups. Pray Until Something
Happens.

magnetic field
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- Original Message -
From: True Patriot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [CTRL] It's January 3rd. Where's the martial law I was told to
expect?


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Well I gave it a few days.
> I even thought I saw a UN blue helmet. Turned out my neighbor got a new
> hat.
> But there was no NWO takeover.
> No FEMA command.
> No Executive Order declaring martial law.
> No foreign troops marching in the streets.
> Nothing.
> Nada.
> So you paranoid wack jobs, where are you apologizes for crying wolf?
>
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[CTRL] McVeigh's new address

[Mary K. Gemmato]

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Please Repost..
In case anyone cares..
Here is Tim McVeigh's new address.

Tim McVeigh
Reg # 12076 - 064
Hwy 63 South
Terre Haute, In. 47808

P.S. In case you have to locate a person in prison try the
prison locator number 202-307-3126

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