Re: [CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/98 12:09:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- With all due respect, Reverend, I think you are confused on a number of key issues. The Republican party has championed the idea of trying to impose the Christian fundamentalist agenda on the country. It is President Bill Clinton who has tried bring some measure of diversity to the political process ( his willingness to appoint gays and women to key positions in government). Nope, no confusion here. I'm not backing either the Republicans or Democrats, so I'm not stuck in the position of having to attack Clinton because I hate Democrats, nor do I feel obligated to defend Clinton because I hate Republicans. I think both sides have heads firmly placed in their collective ass. Let them fight out their territorial battles in an adult version of "Shirts Skins", I'll simply sit in the sidelines and shout my opinions until I loose my voice or I'm dragged away by security. As for Clinton the Crusader, isn't this is the same guy who refused to force the military to conform to Discrimination Laws by allowing gays to join, but instead passed the absurd "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy? Didn't he also fire someone on his cabinet (Surgeon General, perhaps? My memory fails to recall her name and position at the moment) for suggesting that facts about masturbation be taught in school sex education classes to help prevent teenagers from having sex at a young age? (Not the greatest approach, I grant you, but it certainly couldn't do any harm...) And lets not forget his crusade against tobacco companies, which might eventually lead to outlawing tobacco products? Hiring gays is fine and dandy, but not allowing them to enjoy the same benifits has hetero couples simply because they fall into a minority is far from helping personal freedom. Just some more thoughts... Cuddling my Furby in an impure manner, Rev. S. Michael Wilson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Fresh Look At Clinton
no one but themselves), take away our families and possessions, and make sure that our lives are completely miserable because we have gone against their will. That will teach us. So, when it comes to this whole ordeal with Bill Clinton, I say that we hang him out to dry. After all, he is the head of our government, the same government that has seen fit to destroy the lives of those of us who dare to go beyond what they have decided is good and right and moral for ourselves. He is the leader of a country that eagerly victimises those that have victimised no one, and therefor I dont see why he should be treated any different. Granted, it may not be fair to ruin his life and his political career merely because he got screwing around with a secretary. But then, I dont think the punishments bestowed upon any of the others I mentioned above were particularly fair either. Perhaps revenge isnt the best policy, and maybe two wrongs dont make a right, and Ill even concede that all well be doing is stooping down to the governments level. But youve got to make a point somewhere, and if our nation and our government cant see the millions of people who are forced to suffer cruel injustice and humiliation at the hands of the self-righteous and holier-than-thou, then perhaps striking down someone as high as our President will catch their attention. Who knows, maybe that will teach us. A strange hero to a select few, The Irreverent Reverend S. Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Just curious
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 11:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- What with all the enthusiasm on this list for impeaching Clinton, I'm curious who you would prefer to see occupying the presidential office: Gore? Livingston? George Bush, Jr.? Trent Lott? Pataki? DeLay? Other? And why do you think your choice would be an improvement? sno0wl Is it too late to get Perot in there? That crazy sonofabitch would give everybody something to talk about, eh? Reverend S. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: DNA Sample with Every Arrest
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 11:55:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEW YORK (AP) -- Angering civil libertarians who fear ``1984''-style tactics, Police Commissioner Howard Safir is suggesting that police take a DNA sample along with the fingerprints of everyone arrested. ``The innocent have nothing to fear,'' Safir said Monday. ``Only if you are guilty should you worry about DNA testing.'' Innocence, of course, being in the eye of the oppressor. Those who commit what have become known as "Consensual Crimes" (drug use, prostitution, gambling, ets...) are not guilty of harming others, or using others, or victimizing others in any way. They are quilty only of not conforming to the laws of the land, regardless of how unjust or unrealistic they are. Yes, the innocent have nothing to fear. But no one is truly innocent, and as is becoming increasingly apparent, no one is truly free. Reverend S. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
